WEBVTT - Jonathan C. Kaplan Meets World 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.439 After we did our show in New Orleans, you guys 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:24.680 left and rad show. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.079 By the way, my family came and met me. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:27.840 Yeah, that was such a fun, such a good show. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.840 Yeah, New Orleans. They came, brought the energy it was. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.360 It was a smaller crowd than we've had in other cities, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.680 but louder. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.160 Than absolutely and even more fun. Yeah. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:40.480 Yeah, such a blass. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.879 But then after my family came and met me, so 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.680 Indie and uh my wife and then my sister in 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.280 law were there and we did a swamp tour the 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:49.840 next day. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:50.879 Was this on it? 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.520 But we've talked about this, Was this on a fan boat? 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.400 Like did you do the whole thing an airboat? 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.040 Oh my god. I didn't know what to expect. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.400 I was like, okay, like like I swamps now, I 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.319 think are beautiful there, maybe strangely gorgeous. I mean part 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.479 of it is that the boat itself, I've never experienced 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.080 something like because you're you're on the surface of the water, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.920 but you're going so fast and something about the way 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:15.840 you're moving. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:16.880 It feels like you're flying. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.959 Yeah, you're you know, like we kept sliding like you know, 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.039 you took and it was like. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.720 Dad, it's Louisiana drift because like, you know, it's like 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:26.559 Tokyo drifting. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.960 Yeah, it's Louisiana drift. But then, okay, so here's something 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.200 I realized about myself, which is kind of absurd but true. 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.480 Anytime in a landscape there's moss or lichen. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:40.119 I'm happy. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:40.759 Yeah. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.480 And so you're going through these trees that are hanging 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.680 over you and they have that like moss hanging from 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.160 it that you only get in the South, you know 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.600 I'm talking about, like yeah, and. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.480 I look up and I'm just like, I am so happy. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.360 And it's the same with like, if there's ever like 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.720 a pathway and has like moss growing on it, on 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.480 the rocks or whatever, I'm happy. So I'm just really like, 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.279 you know, you start, you get older, you start figuring 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.440 out your your likes and dislikes. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.200 Me moss and liking. And there's moss a liking. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.080 I think I think it's your I think it's the 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.640 mosses is telling you to root yourself. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:11.080 That's what is. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.400 As much as you like to wander, you know, when 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.600 you sit, you grow the moss. So there's something inside 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.560 of you that's saying. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:17.560 Settle down a little bit. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.239 Yeats, plants and roots and make it nice reading. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:22.840 I like it. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.919 Thank you. We also got to hold a baby alligator, which. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.600 Was crazy, just right out of the swamp. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.520 No, so you know, they they have they have when 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.760 we like we you know, we do little sections. We're 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:36.760 driving around and then they stop and then like a 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.079 twelve foot alligator comes up to the boat and we're feeding. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.480 At marshmows and it's like mellows. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.160 Yeah they eat marshmallows. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.560 Yes, well they'll lead anything, but these tour guides throw 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.440 marshmallows to you know, get But the second the boat stops, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.720 the alligators know it's. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.320 Coming, so they come for feeding time. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.639 It's crazy. I learned a lot about alligators. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.080 That's you know, at the point of the tour, and like, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.280 you know, you have one big alligator that has a territory, 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.679 and then any other alligator has to be under six 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.400 feet because the second the other alligators get over six feet, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.000 the big ones will eat them and just kill them. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.639 So like one big male that dominates the territory and 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.680 then all these other little alligators so the big ones and. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.240 They can live to be like one hundred and twenty 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:16.720 years old. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:17.840 Why it's crazy. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.280 But anyway, so you know, about like two thirds of 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.640 the way through the tour, the where he's giving us 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.600 all the information about alligators and we're learning all this stuff, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.680 and then he reaches under his seat until like a 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.160 little bucket and pulls out a one year old baby alligator, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.440 which is just the cutest little lizard, and we all 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.280 get to hold it. India almost drops it, which would 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.120 have been a disaster because it's like, you know, then 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.480 it would be in the boat and I. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:42.440 Don't know, but it was. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.280 It was fine, and you just hold it by its 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.400 tail and they don't have like their bite. They haven't 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.560 developed like a bite reaction yet, so they don't try 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:50.320 and bite you or anything. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.880 They just they're just like a little lizard. He gets 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.480 a hold and they're really soft. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.360 The alligator's skin would be like scaly, but at that 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.920 is it's like super. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.560 Soft, and especially underneath especially I know. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.520 It's just it was one of those experiences that I 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.240 love where at the beginning of the tour you see 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.360 this twelve foot alligator swimming to the boat and everybody 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.640 is screaming and running to the other side of the boat, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.920 including Indie, who's like, you know, I'm like, it's fine, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.680 it's fine. And then by the end of the tour, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.880 you're like holding a baby alligator. You've heard all about it, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:18.360 and you're like, I. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.480 Kind of think alligators are really special and need to be. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.880 Saved, and like, you know, it's just that classic like right, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.000 that's the point of this kind of educational exponential thing, 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.599 is like. And then of course the ride home India 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.480 and I are just pitching we've come up with an 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.839 alligator video game where you're a baby alligator you hatched 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.320 and you have to you know, we were going through 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.480 the whole life cycle of an alligator, which is pretty brutal. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.560 There's only fifteen percent of them make it past maturity. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:42.800 You know. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.479 It's such a rough life. Yeah, because they're just born. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.719 There's no mom or the bomb lays the eggs and 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.039 then just leaves them. So once they're born, you're on 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.040 your own and then you're fighting for your life. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.000 Sometimes the mom. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.840 Will eat the babies if they're hungry enough, so you 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.719 got to like, yeah, it's a rough. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.840 So they're all Shanes. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:03.520 Baby. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.760 In all fairness, I would swim up to any boat 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.520 anytime if everyone in the boat just started throwing the marshmallows. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.320 Right, well that was Andy was like, well can we 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.200 eat the marshmallows? 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.800 He was upset and they were throwing into the alligators. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.760 Is there any downside to giving an alligator marshmallows? It 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.720 doesn't seem like it has high nutritional value, Like they 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.039 don't get they just digest. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.800 Them well, and these things are struggling to survive, like 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.560 I think, you know, keeping them fed in any capacity 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:34.719 is probably better than hot. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:39.000 Okay, all right, wow, well that sounds like a hard 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.000 pass for me, But I'm so glad you had a 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:41.440 good time. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.680 You wouldn't go. You wouldn't go fan boating. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.800 I would. It's just I wouldn't enjoy it, probably, but 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:47.320 I would go. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.559 That's the point. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.360 I felt the same way. I was like, what is this? 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.800 Like you say swamp and my mind is just like 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.000 I think it's Dagoba and I'm miserable. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.320 But then I was in it. It was beautiful. It's 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.719 it's it's someone says swamp to you. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.279 The first place you go is the Daga bus system, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.080 Yoda's planet. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.919 That's really in your mind. The first place you go 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:05.920 is the fictional planet. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.880 No idea what he said, I just thought that was 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.160 some weird word. I had never heard. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.440 Daga bus not just a planet, it's actually a system. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.680 But that's okay, we'll get okay. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.200 I haven't spent much time in swamp. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.000 I've never spent any time in swamps the Everglades in 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.400 Florida or any of that kind of stuff. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.120 No, so this was it, Like, yeah, and this is 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.480 about the first part of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.359 That's all swamp. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.479 I like that. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:33.120 That's's a fictional ride supposed to tame thing. Yes, exactly. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.600 My reference points are not real, so having a real 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.000 reference point isn't nice. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.200 That's the point of traveling, right, Yeah, yeah, you know, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:40.680 they're cool. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.680 I did that in the Everglades, and you kind of 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.440 start you do the same thing, and you learn about 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.720 all the nature and and about the animals around you, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.280 and it's the same thing. We're looking at the alligators 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.560 and all that stuff, and then you end at a 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.240 restaurant that serves gator and frog legs and all that 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.640 kind of stuff, and you eat a basket of it 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:00.479 and you're like, you're kind of sad is doing it, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.039 But at the same time, it's like this all taste 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:02.440 like chicken. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.480 Well, we got a lot of conversation about sustainable farming 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:07.800 of alligators, which is done, and they have a fifteen 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.960 percent of bible rate. They return them to the wild. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.040 They raise them, and then they return fifteen percent of 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.760 them to the wild. And they have proven that if 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.560 they are raised in captivity and they are then released 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.160 to the wild, they survive perfectly fine in the wild. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.920 So they're actually raising them at the same rate that 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.320 they're actually surviving in the wild. So you know, they're 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.560 released at six feet and they never they never for 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:29.800 leather and for food. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.440 They don't ever kill them after they're six feet long, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:33.080 so they. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.720 Know it's the same. It's sustainably done. It's really interesting 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:36.160 to cool. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.560 Yeah, I hear swamp and I think spiders, which is 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.760 the main reason why I wouldn't want to go. And 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.400 I just know if there are spiders, hot wet areas 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.280 like just seem like screaming. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.520 So jungle doesn't work. See, I think jungle's more spider. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.760 I think swamp is more snake. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.840 Yeah, okay, all right, that you saved me. That sounds better. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.240 I'm not really that scared of snakes. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.080 Okay, there you go. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.880 I'm in Welcome to Pod Meets World, I'm Daniel. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.080 Fishl, I'm Right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredoe. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.400 So a few months back, when we listed off members 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.160 of the elite Boy Meets World Three Timers Club, a 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.720 group composed of actors who appeared on the show three 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.000 times but played three different characters, the guys immediately thought 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.120 of Willie Garson, Hillary Tuck, and possibly Phil Leads. Then 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.800 we inducted Katie Johnson aka fish Girl, to the club. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.000 But then we remembered this week's guest. During our season 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.360 two recaps in the absence of one Stuart Minkus, we 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.640 noticed that producers appeared to want to keep some nerds around, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.800 and they did that with one actor. Whether he was 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.319 named Herbert Simon or Alvin, this kid was every dork 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.160 and he played it well and for good reason. Ironically, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.160 he may have been the most accomplished child actor we 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.400 cast at that point in the show, arguably ever, at 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.480 just twelve years old, he took Broadway by storm in 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.360 the musical Falsettos as the original Jason, a role that 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.960 would make him one of the youngest Tony Award nominees ever. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.000 He'd return to Broadway a few years later in the 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.600 Diary of Anne Frank as the original Peter Van Dnn 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.240 opposite Natalie Portman. Then would find himself joining the national 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.240 tour of The Graduate, taking over for one Rider Strong 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.040 and playing the role of Benjamin for nine months and 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.880 three Missus Robinson's did I mention he studied drama at 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.440 Stanford and Yale and is a member of Mensa, And 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.920 yet for some reason, this theatrical wonder kind joined Our 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.679 Little Friday Night Show for four season two episodes as 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.080 three characters back to School, the Uninvited, I Am Not 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.960 a Crook and on the air. He'd also appear on 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:57.240 Babylon five, Brotherly Love, The Blacklist, and Lawn Order SVU. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:02.160 Where get this he played three friend characters. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.240 That's a New York tradition. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.360 Yeah, I was, of course. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.120 We are proud to welcome to Pod meets World. Someone 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.880 it took over one year to track down. It's Jonathan C. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:15.880 Kaplan. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:21.360 I always get Mensa and Menudo, which is probably why I'm. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:31.720 I think it's way easier to be in Menudo. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.120 The high level of sophistication on our podcast, Welcome. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.560 To see Man, Welcome than you. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.320 We are so thrilled that you are here, and we 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:49.000 probably look slightly obsessed because we truly hunted you down. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.120 You saw our message over a year after we had 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.320 originally sent it, right. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.440 That's right, because I checked Facebook Messenger almost never, So 0:10:58.880 --> 0:10:59.880 that's a healthy way to be here. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.360 We tried other means it just thankfully the Facebook messenger 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:05.240 finally made it. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:06.880 How old are we were? 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.200 It's like you didn't You didn't see our I am like, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:14.880 get this. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.520 Well during our season two rewatch, we were so happy 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.480 to see you so frequently. Did you know that you 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.880 had played three different characters in one season. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.440 There's a good question throughout the season. My name's kept changing, right, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.320 like Alvin Simon and I didn't quite have a Theodore, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:41.240 but I was yeah, but the full set, but it 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.880 was I didn't realize that going into it, but it 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.680 was a nice surprise. Every time I'd show up and 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.200 have like a new character name, I'd be like, oh, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.480 this is fun, but essentially the same character, right essentially? 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:52.920 Yeah? Right? 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.200 Yeah. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.240 So in your intro, we went over your truly remarkable 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.760 resume as a child actor, and we wondered how you 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.800 felt being around true professionals on Broadway and then coming 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.800 to work with us, did you notice a difference at all. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.120 Well, I have to say that, like there are there 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.840 are pluses in both categories, right, Okay, So the Broadway 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.520 performers are it's very much like a machine, right you 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.960 you are. I think other actors have talked about this 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.880 recently when they when they do eight shows a week, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.280 it's like they do nothing else outside of those eight shows, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.480 because it takes your everything, right, And then we got 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.800 onto the set for Boy Meant's World, and I was like, oh, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.280 this is fun. It was not that Broadway isn't fun, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.760 but it's it's a lot of work, right. Youre constantly 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.400 like concerned about your instrument and like keeping everything healthy. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.080 And meanwhile I get to set, you know, with you guys, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.200 and it's like, oh, this is actually like there's a 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.760 fun element to this. It's like it's just as exciting 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.000 as being in front of a live studio audience. It's 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.920 also incredibly fun at the same time. Like we're doing 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.880 you know, schooling together, we're doing the takes together. And 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.720 each scene that we did, particularly the one where I 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.440 was hit by the each of the doors was you know, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.439 one of the highlights of my career. I never thought 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.920 i'd say that, but because it was so. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.240 Fun, right, Yeah, you know, writer went on for years 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.760 still to this day. If given a good opportunity, Writer 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.680 will do the door and a doorsmack it doors. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.480 I love it. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.760 It's one of his favorite things ever. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.720 Yeah, it's a great party trick. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:28.400 It is. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.760 So do you remember auditioning for Boy Meets World? Were 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.120 you familiar with the show at all? 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.440 So? I was familiar with the show. I knew what 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.839 it was. I knew, I knew about it, you know, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.680 I knew. I knew you're going to ask about the audition. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.560 And it's so funny. I heard you guys talking about 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.800 this earlier, and it's so true. The things that we 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.920 remember from from that time period makes zero sense. Like 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.000 I can tell you about the car ride to the audition. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:56.120 I can tell you about what happened. I remember, like 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.880 going and talking to the security guard beforehand, like while 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:00.559 getting onto the set, and it was like I remember, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.920 I remember those kinds of experiences, But I couldn't tell you. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.640 Were you coming from New York or like, so, were 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.760 you moved? Were you already living in LA Like how 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.440 did that happen? 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:15.240 Okay? So, I have a roundabout history. So I started 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.880 in Northern California. And I was going to say this 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.560 to the end, but I do have to tell you 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:25.240 that my most heartbreaking loss as an actor came at 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.480 the ripe ol day age of nine, when I was 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.040 living in Northern California, and I just happened to audition 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:36.520 for Le Miz. Oh no, And I don't know if 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.920 you're aware of this, but the other person who actually 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.480 ended up booking it is on this call right now. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.920 Oh, you auditioned for Gavroche. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:45.720 Time. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.920 I am positive we saw each other writing. Yeah, we 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.840 must have auditioned in the same room. We must have 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.120 seen each other and other auditions then. Oh but it 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.680 was like I was like your name and I was like, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.560 no way, it's the same writer Stromp And so it 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.080 was like it was so cool, Like the the idea 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.960 of like the opportunity to like work with you again 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.760 would be like fantastic. So that's amazing. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.440 Okay, So but that's funny because then Aaron Metchick, who 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.760 also ended up a guest starring on our show. He 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.960 auditioned that same day in San Francisco, so like three 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.640 of us, Oh my god, that's so crazy. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.640 That's so crazy, yo. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.160 Yeah, but it was great, Like it was literally not 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.520 like I think that it was. It was the least 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.400 competitive I've ever been, But it was like started in 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:34.240 northern California, moved to New York, did Falsettos and a 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.000 bunch of off Broadway shows in New York, then moved 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.120 back to California to go to high school. And while 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:42.880 like junior high and high school, and then while I 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.800 was out there, I was doing The boy Mets World. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.400 So did you move to New York to pursue a 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.880 theater career like your family? 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:49.640 Yes? 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.480 Wow, kind of like we moved for a summer to 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.680 see what would happen. Because I had done like twenty 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.000 two shows in the Bay Area, like in two years, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.640 just like one college production after another, just like back 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.360 to back Shakespeare musicals. I did the opera, the San 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:09.680 Francisco Opera at twelve. I was literally nine. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.240 Oh man, you did reverse pilot season. You went to 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.240 New York to see what was going to happen. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.200 It's exactly such a thing to do, exactly. I was 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.360 following the theater like tailwa, so I was. I went 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.960 to New York to try it out there, and I 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.920 booked Rags, which is the off railway version of what 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.520 they were hoping to bring to Broadway again. That was 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.960 performed at the American Jewish Theater, which then became the 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:40.520 Opera Citizens Brigade Theater, which is built underneath a supermarket, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.200 so during all the quiet moments, you can hear the 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:48.960 carts being pushed. Oh, what's on special that day? Happens 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.280 like just after the intro, but yeah it. So I 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.640 went to New York to do that and then got Rags. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.240 And after Rags, was called in by the Weislers to 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.280 audition Foot Pauls. And the audition for Falsettos was like 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.159 a two month process. Oh my god, just memorize a 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.880 different song for every audition, and then by the time 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.399 we got to the rehearsal, we knew the whole score. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.359 Oh geez, you were such a pro. When you showed 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.720 up on our set, we cannot believe. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.560 Wait, but had you been on Nickelodeon, like let's I 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.440 can't believe. And we had no idea, Like I still 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.240 had no idea until we got the notes for today. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.800 We were like Tony Tony nominated what before he was 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.000 on Boy beats World, Like, wow, is this big? And 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.200 now you're Yeah, I cannot believe. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.560 The level of professionalism that you were walking under our set. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.080 We must have just seemed like the craziest group. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.960 Can We also, though, very briefly, talk about how great 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.040 the casting director was for Ley Miss up North. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.879 I mean, everybody auditioned for that became it was it 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.160 was an open casting call, dude. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.880 So it was literally just every kid who was doing 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.080 theater at that age, just like we lined up. I 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.040 got there like five in the morning and it was 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.240 just a line of kids. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.639 But yeah, think about what was in the water, like 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.399 that much kind of of northern California at that time. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.600 Oh man, I look at the other actors who I 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.520 knew from that that period, you know, and some of 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.200 them are still in the business, but like they're all 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.240 incredibly accomplished, you know. It's it's fascinating. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.640 I mean, you had way more in common with Bill 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.440 Daniels any of us. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:30.720 Yeah, it's like on her set too, it was just 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.919 Quinn a little bit different. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.679 But wow, okay, I do I do want to talk 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.520 about the Tony a little bit. You were nominated for 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.800