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Speaker 2: By the way, my family came and met me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was such a fun, such a good show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, New Orleans. They came, brought the energy it was.

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Speaker 4: Than absolutely and even more fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, such a blass.

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Speaker 1: But then after my family came and met me, so

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Speaker 3: Was this on it?

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Speaker 5: But we've talked about this, Was this on a fan boat?

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Speaker 5: Like did you do the whole thing an airboat?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I didn't know what to expect.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, like like I swamps now, I

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Speaker 1: of it is that the boat itself, I've never experienced

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Speaker 6: It feels like you're flying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you know, like we kept sliding like you know,

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Speaker 7: Dad, it's Louisiana drift because like, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Louisiana drift. But then, okay, so here's something

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Speaker 1: Anytime in a landscape there's moss or lichen.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: And so you're going through these trees that are hanging

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Speaker 3: I look up and I'm just like, I am so happy.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same with like, if there's ever like

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Speaker 6: Me moss and liking. And there's moss a liking.

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Speaker 5: I think I think it's your I think it's the

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Speaker 5: As much as you like to wander, you know, when

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Speaker 5: Yeats, plants and roots and make it nice reading.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. We also got to hold a baby alligator, which.

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Speaker 4: Was crazy, just right out of the swamp.

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Speaker 1: No, so you know, they they have they have when

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Speaker 4: Yeah they eat marshmallows.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well they'll lead anything, but these tour guides throw

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. I learned a lot about alligators.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, at the point of the tour, and like,

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Speaker 3: Why it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so you know, about like two thirds of

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Speaker 6: They just they're just like a little lizard. He gets

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Speaker 1: It's just it was one of those experiences that I

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Speaker 6: Kind of think alligators are really special and need to be.

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Speaker 1: There's only fifteen percent of them make it past maturity.

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Speaker 1: It's such a rough life. Yeah, because they're just born.

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Speaker 3: So they're all Shanes.

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Speaker 5: In all fairness, I would swim up to any boat

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Speaker 3: Right, well that was Andy was like, well can we

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, wow, well that sounds like a hard

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't go. You wouldn't go fan boating.

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Speaker 4: I would. It's just I wouldn't enjoy it, probably, but

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Speaker 2: That's the point.

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Speaker 3: I felt the same way. I was like, what is this?

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Speaker 3: But then I was in it. It was beautiful. It's

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Speaker 5: The first place you go is the Daga bus system,

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Speaker 5: Daga bus not just a planet, it's actually a system.

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Speaker 6: I haven't spent much time in swamp.

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Speaker 1: I've never spent any time in swamps the Everglades in

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Speaker 3: No, so this was it, Like, yeah, and this is

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Speaker 3: That's's a fictional ride supposed to tame thing. Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 5: I did that in the Everglades, and you kind of

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Speaker 5: So jungle doesn't work. See, I think jungle's more spider.

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Speaker 4: I'm in Welcome to Pod Meets World, I'm Daniel.

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Speaker 3: Fishl, I'm Right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredoe.

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Speaker 9: So a few months back, when we listed off members

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Speaker 9: But then we remembered this week's guest. During our season

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Speaker 9: Where get this he played three friend characters.

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Speaker 2: That's a New York tradition.

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Speaker 9: We are proud to welcome to Pod meets World. Someone

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Speaker 9: it took over one year to track down. It's Jonathan C.

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Speaker 4: Kaplan.

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Speaker 3: I always get Mensa and Menudo, which is probably why I'm.

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Speaker 9: I think it's way easier to be in Menudo.

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Speaker 1: The high level of sophistication on our podcast, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: To see Man, Welcome than you.

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Speaker 9: We are so thrilled that you are here, and we

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Speaker 9: probably look slightly obsessed because we truly hunted you down.

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Speaker 9: You saw our message over a year after we had

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Speaker 9: originally sent it, right.

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Speaker 2: That's right, because I checked Facebook Messenger almost never, So

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Speaker 9: We tried other means it just thankfully the Facebook messenger

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Speaker 3: How old are we were?

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Speaker 5: It's like you didn't You didn't see our I am like,

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Speaker 9: Well during our season two rewatch, we were so happy

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Speaker 2: There's a good question throughout the season. My name's kept changing, right,

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Speaker 2: this is fun, but essentially the same character, right essentially?

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Speaker 9: So in your intro, we went over your truly remarkable

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Speaker 9: So do you remember auditioning for Boy Meets World? Were

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Speaker 4: Oh, you auditioned for Gavroche.

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Speaker 3: We were like Tony Tony nominated what before he was

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Speaker 9: I mean, you had way more in common with Bill

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Speaker 4: How did your parents deal with all of this?

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Speaker 2: Good questions? So one of them was always working on

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Speaker 2: to take us to New York and like follow where

443
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: in New York. Uh, and my dad stayed in California

444
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: started a business there.

445
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 8: Uh.

446
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: And then my when I got old enough, I had

447
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: to take over my own career. My mom then stayed

448
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: in California and my dad started a business in Alaska.

449
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: So it was like they're constantly working like all over

450
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: the place. It was a it was a constant game

451
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: of taghow And were they into theater?

452
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 3: Is that where it came from?

453
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: Like they got you? And yeah, they were both the

454
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: community theater. And I remember my first role was in

455
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: a community theater production of All the Way Home, which

456
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: is I don't know if anyone knows it, but it's

457
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: a very sad show about the depression. Uh, And I

458
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: played a five year old child with no lines. My

459
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: whole role was to run on stage, play with the

460
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 2: main kid, hug my grandmother, and run off again. And

461
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: being that I was five years old, I had a

462
00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 2: smile on my face the entire time. That sounds fun,

463
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: I like playing. So I ran on stage, huge smile

464
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: and all the old ladies thought it was adorable. So

465
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: a lot of pinches on the cheek after.

466
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 5: That, of course, And that's what coming you said, You

467
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 5: said us, did you have a brothers and sisters that

468
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 5: were doing this with you?

469
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: Or yes, yes, my sister she essentially become a very

470
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: successful psychologist at Stanford, and she is now like she

471
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: she did nor in Northern California. She did Tale of

472
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: Two Cities. She's like on the on the cover of

473
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: the publication for the San Francisco Weekly or whatever. She's

474
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: like being held as the child who is hit and

475
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: title Tale two Cities.

476
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 9: Wow, Oh my gosh, Okay, I want to go back

477
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 9: to Boy Meets World now for just a little bit.

478
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 9: So your first episode is back to School, which was

479
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 9: a bit of a reset for us on the podcast.

480
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 9: We had going from season one into season two, we

481
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 9: had what we called dropshock big time. So your playing

482
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 9: a nerd named Herbert. Do you remember anything about that week?

483
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: I remember a lot of the physical stuff, right, It

484
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: was like there was the doors and the being hit

485
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 2: by the various doors. I also remember, and I know

486
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: you guys were like totally joking about about the professionalism,

487
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: but I like, as soon as I got onto set,

488
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's it's a whole different ballgame here,

489
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: Like this is completely different from like anything else that

490
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: I'd ever done. Because you guys had such great chemistry.

491
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: It was like all I had to do was just

492
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: kind of show up and do my thing, and you

493
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: guys were like fireworks all the time, because mostly most

494
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: of the time it takes like, you know, a month

495
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: of rehearsals for actress to get together to find that

496
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: chemistry make that work on stage. But by the time

497
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: I got there, you guys were like, on it done.

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 9: We also had for season two was still David Trainer.

499
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 9: I was going to say, I wonder if Jeff McCracken,

500
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 9: we were so yeah, so David trainor was was still

501
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 9: our director. Then you're back just four episodes later for

502
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 9: The Uninvited. Again you're playing a nerd, but now you're

503
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 9: named Simon and you're connecting with Sean about being left

504
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 9: out from a party. Do you remember how that episode happened.

505
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 9: You didn't have to audition again, did you.

506
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: No, No, they would just call me back. And I

507
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: remember that Boyman's World was one of the ones that

508
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: was relatively short notice. So I was essentially like, like

509
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: on the Wednesday of like the week before, they were like,

510
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: so you're gonna come in, You're gonna do another another episode,

511
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Like okay, okay, again, this is like early on in TV,

512
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: so I was like, I guess this is how it works.

513
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's so interesting to think about because Michael

514
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: Jacobs was such a theater guy and theater fan, and

515
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: he must have just been so impressed with you that.

516
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: He was like, let's get him on here, let's let's

517
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: bring him back, let's get get it, and you like

518
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: must have been on hit. But it's so funny, be Causina.

519
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: We never knew that, like, it never occurred to us,

520
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: but I'm sure he was like, get that kid.

521
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 9: Well, I'm sure Michael saw his resume. So the first

522
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 9: time he auditioned, Michael probably saw your resume and was just.

523
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: Like, whoa, this is amazing.

524
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to start keeping a list of all

525
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 5: the incredible things we were completely and totally oblivious to

526
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 5: as kids, so many things, because it's just it would

527
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: be miles long at this point, unbelievable. Do you remember

528
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 5: Michael did he Did he talk to you about theater

529
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 5: at all.

530
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: Or do Yeah? Yeah, we did have conversations about theater,

531
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: and he asked about like specific people. He'd be like, so,

532
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: how is you know Michael doing or something like that. Wow, Michael,

533
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: But again it's you know, a conversation from thirty years ago.

534
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember the dressing room, but I can't remember,

535
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: you know, exactly what we talked about.

536
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 4: You know, right, I don't remember the dressing room.

537
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of do for season two, but this

538
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 5: is so I'm not sure we asked this, and we

539
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: probably should then because you're right, you never know what

540
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 5: sticks in your brain, what doesn't stick in your brain,

541
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: what goes. What's your strongest memory from being on the

542
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 5: set of Boy mel Okay?

543
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: So I remember, uh, I remember the bullies, remember shoes

544
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: that we had on our episodes. They were like, again,

545
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: he's had a very successful career since but like the

546
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: larger bully like he's he has been, you know, so

547
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: great to see his career like and where it's gone.

548
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: But he walked onto that set and was like, Oh,

549
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: that's You've got this this part down. It is like

550
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: the question is to like what you're doing. And he

551
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: revised that role over and over again on the episode,

552
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, it's it's almost like watching

553
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: you know, somebody like step into a shoe that's made

554
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: for them, right, It's like it's just it just happens.

555
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: It just works. And I remember like coming on to set,

556
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: particularly with Boy Meets World and it just kept happening,

557
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: like the people would would match their role so incredibly

558
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: well and you didn't have to think.

559
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 9: About it right and that Yeah, I mean the casting

560
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 9: was incredible. That was Ethan's first job, in his first

561
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 9: episode of his first job ever. First day, Yeah, was

562
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 9: was there and we all felt the same way.

563
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, these guys are good, right, yeah, to.

564
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 5: The point where my dad thought I was gonna be

565
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: written off the show because they were so good.

566
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: These are the guys, these are the guys.

567
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: Happening.

568
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 9: So at this point, as we've mentioned, you had already

569
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 9: been nominated for a Tony, but TV was newer to you.

570
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 9: So was it cool then to see yourself on TV?

571
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 9: Did you watch the episodes when they aired initially?

572
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: Yes? I did because I thought it was, you know,

573
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: kind of fun to do. And you get like a

574
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: little group together and you watch together and you're like,

575
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: that was cool.

576
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 7: Uh.

577
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I've heard you guys talk about this

578
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: before on the podcast, but you see these things and

579
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, man, I wish I could redo that take.

580
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: Like there's certain moments and again it's not the entire thing,

581
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: but you're like, you see a moment you're like, oh,

582
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: miss that one. Right, it's so so there. There is

583
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: that that keep talking about the big mouth character of

584
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: like the regret master, right, and but it's you have

585
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: this this thing that comes in and you're like, oh, man,

586
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I really I shouldn't watch myself anymore. So I actually

587
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: I've stopped watching or listening to myself, and it's it's

588
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: healthier that way. Think.

589
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, writer discovered that as a team as well.

590
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, stop watching. I only watched a little bit

591
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: of the first season.

592
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: I was like, no, exactly right.

593
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: I watch everything I've been in, and in my head

594
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: I put myself and stuff I wasn't in.

595
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: That's good God, it was incredible Star Wars. This is damn.

596
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: Thank you.

597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: But speaking of that, because of the way I am

598
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: with television and my memory of TV, which episodes of

599
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: s VU did you do? Were you old school SVU?

600
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: Were you Olivia Benson's now the captain of the squad

601
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 5: s VU? Where did you.

602
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: Fall in in this this category?

603
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: So again talking about great casting directors, right, So Jonathan

604
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Strauss is the casting rec means cast directed prayers for

605
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: you and he's great, Like I had a class with

606
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: him very early on in kind of my time in

607
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: New York, and we just kind of kept in touch, right,

608
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: and every once in a while a random part would

609
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: show off and he'd be like, Jonathan, come on, come

610
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: on in for this. And I'd auditioned for something and

611
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way I'm going to get this.

612
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: This is like a you know, a husband's who's taking

613
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: care of his pregnant wife and we're going to the

614
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: hospital to take care of somebody else. And I auditioned

615
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: for it and it goes really well, and I have

616
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: no idea what character, like I am personally right, but

617
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: he clearly sees something different. It's just great casting. And

618
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: I've been SVU from the early days to the mid days,

619
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: not so much in the later days, but like.

620
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: Who are you in the early ones? Which episode did you?

621
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 9: I need to know the specific episode.

622
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: I want to know what it is.

623
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: So there was one where I was playing like a

624
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: paralegal and we were talking about like a possibly corrupt

625
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: judge and we were talking about the ins and outs

626
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: of like the our day to day and Benson was

627
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: talking to me about some detail and I had a

628
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: response that they did this like double pan with two

629
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: cameras on either side to like not catch each other

630
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: like one continuous take that we had to do. Okay.

631
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: And and the thing I love and can't stand about

632
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: TV is that everyone talks about this.

633
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone, especially on copy.

634
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: So if you're standing in a big room and have

635
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: like wait for someone's cue to like pick up your line,

636
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: you're like, I have no idea I'm supposed to be.

637
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: You didn't watch yourself on the episode? Did you know?

638
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: I didn't.

639
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 8: I was going to say, you still have not told

640
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 8: me what episode it is? You don't know what episode.

641
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: I wish these people would project. We're some good old

642
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: theater training. These TV actors don't know so much fun.

643
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to google Google now. Okay.

644
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 9: So then towards the end of season two, you come back,

645
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 9: this time in a much bigger role, now as Alva

646
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 9: running against Corey in the school election.

647
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: For I am not a crook, and.

648
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 9: This felt more like a role your talent deserved. Finally,

649
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 9: do you remember this week at all? And and do

650
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 9: you have any memories from that week?

651
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: I do. I do remember like playing Alvin because Alvin

652
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: was where it felt more like an actual.

653
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 3: Characters.

654
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it had some I had some like conflict and

655
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: there was some some actual scenes happening, and you know,

656
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: rather than just being kind of the slapstick comedy, it

657
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I get to work with these actors.

658
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: And I remember really relishing in that because it was like, oh, okay,

659
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: I've gotten to have some fun up until now. Now

660
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: let's kind of dig in.

661
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, finally you had you had something to do.

662
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 9: So when we recapped the episode, Will shared kind of

663
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 9: a dropped a bombshell on me with something he remembered

664
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 9: that I absolutely did not remember, which was that during

665
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 9: the live studio audience taping, I kept in that part

666
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 9: where I kind of jump up to filibuster a speech,

667
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 9: I had a bit of a breakdown and I left

668
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 9: stage crying, and I was wondering if you remember any

669
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 9: of that.

670
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I do remember something about like I remember seeing like

671
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: some commotion happening, but I do remember you breaking down.

672
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: But I do remember you like leaving. Yeah, okay, I

673
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: don't don't remember the breakdown though.

674
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: Oh that's okay, that's all right. Listen, we all have.

675
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 9: We all have things happened anyway. Almost if you walk down,

676
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 9: it doesn't affect you. Everyone knows that if the trauma

677
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 9: is so severe, you block it out.

678
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: I woke up today, so everything's yeah, right.

679
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: Just don't approach Dan y'all from her left side or

680
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: make any sudden movements, and you're fine, no trauma at all.

681
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: Do you ever get recognized for Boy Meets World.

682
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: Only because the not because of anything else I have?

683
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: I have to say, So, what I've been doing a

684
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: lot recently is I've been working at a high school.

685
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm directing their theater productions, and it's been a real

686
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: lovely shift to like being able to introduce a lot

687
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: of students to the things that I love about theater.

688
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: And I have to say that I've kind of been

689
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: blindsided when somebody comes up to me is like I

690
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: saw you as Alvin yesterday, and I'm like, oh, okay,

691
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: all right, I'm still out there. Right, It's it is

692
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: still out there. And I love when that happens because

693
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: it's like the kids. I realized that, like all these

694
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: episodes were filmed before the kids were even born. Yes,

695
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: crazy right, yes, yes, but like it's really nice to

696
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: see that it still has a reach, see that like

697
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: that these episodes are still making their way into the

698
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 2: the viewing, you know, population of like, what what are

699
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: the high schoolers right now? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah not

700
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: ski vide Ohio. That's all I have to say about that.

701
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is still my favorite thing that happens when

702
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 9: very young people recognize me and I will think, how

703
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 9: is it possible that they know about Boy Meets World?

704
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 9: But then they'll come up to me and they'll say,

705
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 9: excuse me, are you the mom from Girl Meets World.

706
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 9: It's like a right, a full solid you don't even

707
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 9: know about Boy Meets World, or if you do, it's

708
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 9: only because your parent walked in while you were watching

709
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 9: Girl Meets World and said, you know, the one you

710
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 9: should be watching is this one, and then directed them

711
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 9: back to Boy Meets World.

712
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it's still happening.

713
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody I meet now, if they've watched

714
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Girl Met World, they've gone back to Boy Meets World,

715
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's been enough time. Like when

716
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: it was on the air, I can see that, But

717
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: now I feel like everyone knows the.

718
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: Association, right, Not not.

719
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 3: Sure people that just are girl fans.

720
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 9: Yes, I get people that know me specifically because they've

721
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 9: only watched Girl Meets World.

722
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 4: And they know that I'm the mom on that show.

723
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 9: And even then it's like it's it's I actually love

724
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 9: it because they're very aware that, like I'm not the

725
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 9: star of the show. It feels like, yeah, you were

726
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 9: on that that show. I love that show. I love

727
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 9: those kids, and you were there. It's great.

728
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 5: By the way, just for the record, you were on

729
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: in two thousand and six episode called Gone Going for.

730
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: SBU that is that is the one that is the

731
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: takeaway I can still get the residual checks, the names

732
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: them all. Yeah, that five cents fifteen.

733
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is based on the Natalie Holloway case, so

734
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 5: they you know, because everything, of course is ripped from

735
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 5: the headlines.

736
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh right, that was That was the one where I

737
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: was taking care of my pregnant wife to the hospital

738
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: and she comes in it is yeah.

739
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, the one I think we're taking your pregnant life.

740
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: That's witness.

741
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: That's witness.

742
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: That's right, that's Witness because that's the one where they

743
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 5: have to find nartily to come back.

744
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: To Can you quote lines from it?

745
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 7: Will?

746
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: Can you do you want to? So?

747
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: So she gets cut in the hands during Witness and

748
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 5: she ends up getting MRSA and he says well, how

749
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 5: bad is it? And she goes if she has family,

750
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: you have to call them now, and she ends up

751
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: dying like ten seconds later, gone, which which seemed you

752
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: want me to do this sadness.

753
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't understand this is true.

754
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: I think in TV. I think in TV.

755
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: Day like as your day happens, does it like start

756
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: to come out in like final script or like how

757
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: does that? How does that work?

758
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: It is? It's I don't.

759
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 5: I God love my wife. I don't know how she

760
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: does it? Sometimes because I do. I think in TV,

761
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 5: I can literally when I looked up all three of

762
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 5: your episodes, I am now in my head watching all

763
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: three of your episodes.

764
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean literally, and so is that because you watched

765
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: them over and over like you have watched it.

766
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: I haven't watched SVU in years, but once I see

767
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: something that I've seen more than once, then it just

768
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 5: pops into my head again.

769
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, so gone is?

770
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 5: I mean I can see the powder blue shirt that

771
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: you're wearing and the green jacket that you have over

772
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: your shirt when you come in with your wife.

773
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay, only you could.

774
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 6: Harness this to some.

775
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: Like program where we needed answers.

776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 7: We should get me will for now on the line,

777
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 7: we need to know what episode you What was the line?

778
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he comes in because she's hitting on she the

779
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: wife thinks he's hitting on her on him, honestly.

780
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: If he doesn't get it out, we have to deal

781
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 4: with it later.

782
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: And then.

783
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: And Witness was also important because it was it was

784
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: the Da, the woman who plays a DA.

785
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: It was her final episode for a while.

786
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: She comes and she actually disappears for a while and

787
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 5: then comes back.

788
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 4: Anything else will.

789
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: I think?

790
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: I'm good?

791
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I'm good for now.

792
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: I'm We won't get into Beautiful Frame, which was your

793
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: third episode, but there you go.

794
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm good, I'm all right.

795
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

796
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 9: So taking it back to some of your characters from

797
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 9: Boy Meets World, were you going out for a lot

798
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 9: of nerd roles back then?

799
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: Yes, So, you know, because because this is how you're

800
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: kind of people see that you're successful in one role

801
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: like pigeonholed. I want to say that, let's make it

802
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: a term, right. They see that you're successful in one

803
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: role and they're like, oh, okay, let's let's keep him

804
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: going on that treadmill. So essentially I came out for

805
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: a lot of nerd roles and continue to play kind

806
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: of nerdy characters in a lot of the different shows

807
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: that I did.

808
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 5: Were you a nerd? Because as a nerd, I'm curious

809
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 5: were you? I mean did you like fantasy and comic books.

810
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 8: And D and D?

811
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: And was this year?

812
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes a thousand percent? And I I mean the production

813
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: that I just directed at the high school was She

814
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Kills Monsters, which is all about D and D. So

815
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's like it is I that is my wheelhouse.

816
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 2: I love it. And I guess I'm a nerd. I mean,

817
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: I am a member of MENSAH great like, yeah, it's true.

818
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's nerd used to have that kind

819
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: of like negative connotation, but it's really become part of

820
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: the pop culture now cool.

821
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: You know, can we talk a little bit about MENSA.

822
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: It is the first rule that you're not supposed to

823
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: talk about.

824
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, club or I don't know how it is?

825
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: Well, how do you can anyone join if you hit us?

826
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Is it about IQ? Do you have to test to

827
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: get in?

828
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: So you test? You test? You take an IQ test

829
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: and I took it very young, so the you know,

830
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: qualifications were very different. But but the the you take it.

831
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: You take a test to get in and if you

832
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: if your IQ is at a certain level, then you

833
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: can become a member of MENSA by paying the annual

834
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: dues and you can go to the annual meetings.

835
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 8: Uh.

836
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: They have this like big get together in like one

837
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: place where you have everything from like astrophysics workshops to

838
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: like chalk but making. You know, it's like it's completely bizarre,

839
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: but it's like your imagine like MENSA members to do.

840
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: It's all in one place, right, Wow, So just to

841
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: show that, like, actually this is kind of fun and cool.

842
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: So wow, Will's gonna Can you apply online? Can you

843
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: take the test online?

844
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know how to get to the website. I'd

845
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: already be I'd.

846
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: Already fail because you're an old man smile.

847
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: I would never would never be able to get into MENSA.

848
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: But what can I ask? What's the number you need

849
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 3: to get in?

850
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: So I believe when I when I first tested, I

851
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: think it was needed to be like above one thirty

852
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: and I was like marginally over So uh yeah, but

853
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: I bet you could do it. Will, I'm sure. I'm

854
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: sure that I will see you at the chocolate making.

855
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 9: Is there an SV remembering category TV category, like.

856
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 5: He's Alvin Einstein. If that's what they say to me,

857
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: I mean, come on.

858
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: Will if you just like watched videos, like seriously, if

859
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: you watched lectures about subjects.

860
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: You would be able to test on any subject.

861
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 5: It would depend what it was. It would depend because numbers.

862
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: My brain doesn't hone numbers. I truly do have a

863
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: calculating my brain numbers.

864
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I q is.

865
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: I remember trying to take like an IQ test, and

866
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: it's like a really interesting set of reasoning. It's like

867
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: it's it's a logic reasoning, Like it's hard to take one.

868
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 9: In college, I was a psychology major, so I also

869
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 9: had to take one.

870
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know that they're super accurate accurate.

871
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: It's again I think that it depends on what you know,

872
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: states you're in when you go to take it. Yeah,

873
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: there's a lot of factors at play. Yes, I don't.

874
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't claim to be smarter than anyone else. I

875
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: think we do.

876
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: We claim that for you, Yes, you.

877
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: Smarter than checks in the mail, But again, I think

878
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: that really depends on like just finding your group, right,

879
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: because what what MENSA feels like is like the nerdy

880
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 2: parts of Reddit right, So it's like it's like build

881
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: me a PC, but I want to see the people version.

882
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: All right, cool, Okay, interesting, I'm going to crash the

883
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: next MENSA meeting.

884
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be that guy. They're going they'll know

885
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: the second.

886
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 9: I walk in, Like then they're gonna have astrophysics, chocolate

887
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 9: making and tv TV category with will producer.

888
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 3: Yes, TV TU.

889
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: Like tell me an episode.

890
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly now that I'll do all day.

891
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 9: So I want to talk to you a little bit

892
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 9: about because you worked opposite another child prodigy in Natalie Portman,

893
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 9: who was sixteen when she made her Broadway debut in

894
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 9: the Diary of Anne Frank with You. What was that experience?

895
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: Like that was great? Natalie is a real gem. She

896
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: is incredibly focused, one of the most focused actors that

897
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: I've ever worked with. I mean, you could tell I

898
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: was seventeen. She was sixteen at the time, and like

899
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: tenfold what I would you know bring to a production

900
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: like laser focused on these kinds of things. She was

901
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: like testing, preparing for the college exams. She was taking

902
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: like Japanese I think at the time as well, and

903
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 2: all of this in addition to playing like and Frank

904
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: on Broadway. Unbelievable focus for Natalie also incredibly kind and generous,

905
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: like for the high Holy Days the she would mite

906
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: me over to her house and would celebrate together, and

907
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: it was really really nice. But such an incredible actress,

908
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Like I really can't say enough about her.

909
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: Wow, how long were you doing the show?

910
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: So I did Falsettos for a little under a year

911
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: and then and Frank for about a nine months.

912
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Wow, so much worse.

913
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 2: And I have to say that, like all of my understudies,

914
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: this is this is a fascinating thing. All minor studies

915
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: for the big things that I've done are now huge superstars.

916
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: And I think that I should just start renting out space.

917
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: So you really want to be a big superstar, please be.

918
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: My understudy your understudies.

919
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: So, my my under study for Falsettos was Andrew Leads,

920
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: who's like a big, a big superstar in the TV world. Now.

921
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: My uno study Fan Frank was Eddie K. Thomas, Oh

922
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: my gosh. And and my my under study for the Graduate,

923
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 2: which is the tour I did after college, was Nate Qudry,

924
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: who's like's brother and like a success doing a bunch

925
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: of shows, right now. But it's like all these people

926
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: made it into like like series regulars, like just after

927
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: they finished with me, and I think that I had

928
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: something to do with it.

929
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: It's a group effort.

930
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 9: Since the stage is such a sophisticated and adult form

931
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 9: of entertainment.

932
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: Was it easy to still be a kid?

933
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: Great question, that's a great question. So that was part

934
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: of the reason why I kept coming back to California

935
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: to like try to go to school, right. I kept

936
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: wanting to be normal, right. I wanted to say like, Okay,

937
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: I really enjoy this, but it takes a lot. Like this,

938
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: it's a big time commitment. You know, you disappear for

939
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: three months when you're doing a film, and you come back,

940
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: everyone else is already moved on, right, They're already their

941
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: lives have already gone, and you're like, I was in

942
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, Ontario for three months, and yeah, uh, it's

943
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: a lot. So I kept trying to come back to

944
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: be like a normal kid again. But after a few months,

945
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: like the bug starts to get you again, and then

946
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: you find yourself like, all right, well i'll do your audiobook. Okay, fine,

947
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: maybe I'll do this this one role on this thing,

948
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: all right, Fine, I'm back in a whole hog.

949
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 8: You know.

950
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: It's like there's no stopping it.

951
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 8: It is.

952
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: It is a bug that I want to constantly, like

953
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, have go away, but I but it keeps

954
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: coming back, and I don't. I don't mind. Yeah, I

955
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: love that fact, like that's part of what you know.

956
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: Directing is for me now, It's like I get to

957
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: introduce the joy to like the younger.

958
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard it put like you know that to

959
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: tell young actors. If you can do anything else, do

960
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: something else. But if you can't not act, you're an actor,

961
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

962
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: It's like, you can't you can't avoid it.

963
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: If if it's just gonna always be a part of

964
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: then you just have to start working your life around it.

965
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: In some capacy.

966
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: I can see that you're reading a lot. So that's

967
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: that's really good. The books behind the shows.

968
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: The writer is officially said he's done with acting.

969
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: We yeah, he loves directing. I mean, I love working

970
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: with actors. I just yeah, don't want to.

971
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: And you know I do. I do readings every once

972
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: in a while now to kind of get the bug again.

973
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: And it's a different experience that I have with it now.

974
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: Like as a director and as an older actor now

975
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: not older but I mean middle age actor. Now it's

976
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: it's it's a different feeling than it was when you know,

977
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: we were younger, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's

978
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: just kind of a it's what it is, what it is.

979
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: But I do have to say one of my favorite

980
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: things to do show wise, I used to do this

981
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: show called Gravid Water and it was an actor and

982
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: an improviser that we get together and the actor would

983
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: memorize all the lines of one character of a two

984
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: person scene, and the improviser had never heard the scene before.

985
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: So I worked. I worked with some of the biggest

986
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: names in like you know TV right now, like Tom

987
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Middle Bitch to work with uh work, Shareo, Terry. I mean,

988
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: like a bunch of different like I work at Chevy

989
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Chase once. But again it's like they were the improvisers.

990
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: I was doing all the lines of one character and

991
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: you have to justify it, right.

992
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: So you have to keep returning to the lines.

993
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: Is the idea.

994
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: I want to see that.

995
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: That's so it's it's such a great show. So after

996
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: COVID it kind of shut down. But like I'm they're

997
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: hoping to get it back on the ground again. So

998
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: but that is like, because it's immediate, you have to

999
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: have everything has to be there, and then, right, nothing's

1000
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: going to be the same after it. Right.

1001
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: What's your when you look back on on especially your

1002
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 5: stage career, is there a show that stands out for

1003
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 5: you as your favorite?

1004
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: Question? Yeah? I mean I love the story of Falsettos.

1005
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: That was a really beautiful story to tell over and

1006
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: over again, especially you know, Happy Pride by the way,

1007
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: it was a story that needed to be told, and

1008
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm really glad it was told when it was. I

1009
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: have to say that, like all of the proessions that

1010
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: I've done have been worthwhile in some way, right, And

1011
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: it's really hard for me to pick a favorite because

1012
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: I was in a different place personally for like each one.

1013
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: I really loved doing Shakespeare. We toured that around the

1014
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: country with the acting company and played in theaters that

1015
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: had not seen a stage play before, let alone Shakespeare.

1016
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: So it was like we were performing in these like

1017
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: really really small, you know, like ninety nine seat houses

1018
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: that were like transformed from barn. We had to like

1019
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: restage the entire thing based on like the parameters of

1020
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: like what we have for entrances and exits and like

1021
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: that was really fun. But you know, like gravid water,

1022
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: like I talked about, is immediately it's then and there.

1023
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: So they all have value. And I would also say

1024
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: like the directing, like as you as you know writer,

1025
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: it becomes you value that just as much.

1026
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you and writers share experience as Benjamin in

1027
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 9: the touring company of the Graduate. What was that like

1028
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 9: then when you guys crossed paths. Did you have a

1029
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 9: lot of interaction at that time?

1030
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: We didn't know. So again they were like we were,

1031
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: we were shipping in the night, so we completely like

1032
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: missed each other as we were exchanging roles there.

1033
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you also you never did it with Jerry Hall,

1034
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: did you?

1035
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Just after Jerry left, so there was a whole new cast.

1036
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: Basically, so you were Nate Corgie went along and the

1037
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: rest of the cast went with you.

1038
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: But me, Yeah, me and Jerry. So you were rehearsing

1039
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: in LA while we were finishing up our leg right.

1040
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, audition in New York, rehearsed in LA

1041
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: and then came back to me.

1042
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 9: Wow.

1043
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 9: Jonathan worked with Lorraine Brocco, Linda Gray and Kelly McGillis

1045
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 9: as the Missus Robinson's and writer.

1046
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 4: You worked with.

1047
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hall, Jerry Hall, and that was it, right, Yeah,

1048
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: because then then I went back and did it again.

1049
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Did you know that, Jonathan, I went and did it

1050
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: in Australia's seven years later it was, and did it

1051
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 1: with Jerry again.

1052
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: It was it was crazy.

1053
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah.

1054
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 4: Is being in a touring company even harder work?

1055
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Is it harder work? Yes? And no, it's because you

1056
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: don't have your like family or you know, support network

1057
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: around all the time. With the acting company, they had

1058
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: these signs that were made right like with arrows pointing

1059
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: like to the dressing room or like to the stage

1060
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: right without which we would be completely lost, like some

1061
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 2: of us would still be backstage right now. But because

1062
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: like when you're going on a touring company, you're there

1063
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: for like a few weeks, you know some now they're

1064
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: doing like split weeks, and so like you're there for

1065
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: a couple of days and then you go on to

1066
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: the next theater and they set up overnight and you

1067
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: come to the show for a weekend and they pick

1068
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: up and you're you know, out on the road again.

1069
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: On Monday.

1070
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: The graduate was so much work too, because as Benjamin,

1071
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: we had one scene that we weren't in the rest

1072
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: of the time, We're on stage the entire You're carrying

1073
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: the entire show, and I just remember like being exhausted,

1074
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: like it was. It was like running a marathon every night.

1075
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: And then didn't Wasn't there a night where you hit

1076
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: your head and Nate had to go on halfway through

1077
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: the show? Yeah, well I remember because Nate hadn't ever,

1078
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: he never got to go on for me. Uh and

1079
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: and then he was that first I think that was

1080
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: the first time he went on.

1081
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: He took over for you. Yes, what it was halfway

1082
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: through a show. She had to simulate sex and rider.

1083
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: But like, so the bed it was a single bed, right,

1084
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: a single bed made up sheets like like sewn on

1085
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: on the corner. Was this was a bedside table, right,

1086
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: And there's a scene when we flopped back and we're like, oh,

1087
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: we're reacting like something that you know, our dad has said, uhh.

1088
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: And the table is connected to the side of the bed,

1089
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: so like there's no movement in it. And so one

1090
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 2: night I just was off just a slight bit, and

1091
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: so I flapped back at like on the corner of

1092
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: the bedside table in my head so hard. That was

1093
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: like allowed badang right, And I don't remember this writer,

1094
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: but like that set was the whitest set I've ever

1095
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: worked on.

1096
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: It's all white. It's literally cream colored, like loo every windows.

1097
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1098
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: I spent the rest of the and I'm wearing like

1099
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: a white shirt with like khaki pants and and I'm

1100
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man, my head hurts. And I come

1101
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: back to my hands full of blood. Right, so I'm

1102
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: like to finish the scene, and so I'm like holding

1103
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: my head like you know, trying to like stop the

1104
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: blood is I'm like backing up toward the exit and

1105
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: and like sure enough, it's coming like down my neck

1106
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: all over my all my things. People are like, I

1107
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: think somebody actually got really worried about my safety. In

1108
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: the front row. One was like, I'm a doctor, is

1109
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: he okay? And coming back to me now? So this

1110
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: was a yell and and uh we went to yell

1111
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: hospital intermission while Nate got into my clean version of

1112
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: my clothes and then finished the rest of the show.

1113
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what did you end up eating? Stitches?

1114
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: Staples? I got staples, Oh.

1115
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: Connecticut we do staples and.

1116
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: Hacktic because you never have a break, like you there's

1117
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: not a moment, there's not a scene where you are

1118
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: off stage and that entire play.

1119
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so hectic.

1120
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: Oh my yeah.

1121
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Speaker 9: Well, as you mentioned, you are now teaching and directing

1122
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 9: for kids, sometimes in the age group of when you

1123
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 9: were running around Broadway being nominated for awards. What is

1124
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 9: the best piece of advice you try to pass on

1125
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 9: to the kids you work with?

1126
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: So the best piece of advice that I try to

1127
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: pass on to the kids is, well, there's a lot,

1128
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: but it really comes down to kind of the fundamentals.

1129
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 8: Of like.

1130
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: What it is that we do? Right? Like, well, like

1131
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask everyone in this room, like, like,

1132
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: what does acting mean to you? Right? What is it?

1133
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: What is acting?

1134
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: That's a really tough question at this point. I you know,

1135
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: I've had so many different answers. But to me, it's

1136
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: it's it's embodying a story. It's it's it's it's taking

1137
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: all of your humanity, your body, your voice, your artistic

1138
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: expressive capacities and telling a story that was already written

1139
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: before you. Like you're not, I mean, imbrobbing is like

1140
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: creating a story. But like I think acting just the

1141
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: purest form is that you're embodying a story in some

1142
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: commit Yeah.

1143
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 4: O character, I'll take what he said.

1144
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: Do you think, well any difference.

1145
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I came to a pretty.

1146
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 5: I don't I wouldn't say horrible realization, but a realization

1147
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 5: that I'm not an actor. And I came to that

1148
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 5: realization a while ago because I think acting is about

1149
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 5: the craft, like writer was talking about and kind of

1150
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 5: internalizing the story and embodying the character, and I never

1151
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 5: did that. I care only about the reaction of the

1152
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 5: audience and making sure the audience has a good time.

1153
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: So I realized I was an entertainer more than I

1154
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: was an actor.

1155
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: Because that's all I had to do, if I had to,

1156
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: if I have to flop down and knock my head

1157
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 5: against something like you did to get the reaction from

1158
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 5: the audience, and that's what I'm gonna do.

1159
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: You bleed, I'll bleed.

1160
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, So I realized that I didn't have the

1161
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 5: kind of you know, the emotionality, intensity and the connection

1162
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 5: within myself to be an actor, whereas I'll go out

1163
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 5: and do what I have to do to get the reaction.

1164
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: From the audience. So I always classified myself more as

1165
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: an entertainer.

1166
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: Which is I think that's totally valid, and I think

1167
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: that there's there's a place for both, right, Right, I

1168
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: always tell my students acting fundamentally is living truthfully in

1169
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 2: given circumstances. Right, two separate things, right, So, the given

1170
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: circumstances are what you are given in a script. It's

1171
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: the who, what, when, where, why, and how it's done

1172
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: by the by the screenwriter, the playwright, whatever you happen

1173
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: to be doing. Right, But there's a second part to it.

1174
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: It's incredibly important that it's the most fundamental thing for

1175
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: the child professional actors that I work with, and that's

1176
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 2: to live truthfully. We all have to bring so much

1177
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: more of our selves, our own experiences into the things

1178
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: that we do, into that intentionality, because that that is

1179
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: what makes an incredibly fascinating audition. Right when you see

1180
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: someone and you're like, I have no idea what they've

1181
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: just done, but it's completely changed my view of this script. Right,

1182
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 2: that's that because it's because they brought themselves. There's something

1183
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: in every actor that they have. There's so much more

1184
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: power in the experiences that they've had that I really

1185
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: try to stress to my students to like find and

1186
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: I break it down for them and we go through

1187
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: like the beats and you know, the fundamentals. But finding

1188
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: more of yourself in these characters is fundamental. That's great.

1189
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 4: I love it.

1190
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.

1191
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 5: You know what I'm gonna ask next, don't you write, Danielle?

1192
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 5: What's the thing that I have to know about every person.

1193
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: That we talked to?

1194
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: Where he grew up?

1195
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: Where are you now? I have a location thing?

1196
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: Are you?

1197
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: Do you have a pick?

1198
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: Can you send him a pin?

1199
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: Are you in New York or la?

1200
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: Right, I'm in New York.

1201
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: I'man you are okay?

1202
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: So it is afternoon.

1203
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: If you think that's going to be enough, you're wrong.

1204
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: Exactly a New York art.

1205
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm happy to talk about this. No, I haven't been

1206
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: getting suspicious packages anymore so, but no, I live in

1207
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: Croton on Hudson's It's about forty five minutes to an

1208
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: hour north of the city, and it's in northern Westchester,

1209
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: so right on the kind of the border beautiful trails here.

1210
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: The whole reason we moved up was because I really

1211
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: liked trail running, and it's equally dangerous and you know exciting.

1212
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: So I like it too.

1213
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 5: I'm a big failed trail running as well. That's a

1214
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: tough one to say, yeah, because it is.

1215
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: It's the thing I like about it is like no

1216
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: one cares about your time. Like any time you say

1217
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: I've done a fifty k and you know, on a trail,

1218
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: they're like, wow, that's awesome. How long did you know?

1219
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: It's like like fifty k, that's amazing.

1220
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

1221
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 9: So looking back now, thirty years since your episodes on

1222
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 9: Boy Meets World, what advice would you like to give

1223
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 9: young Jonathan c kaplan if you had it, if you

1224
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 9: you had the time machine and you could go back,

1225
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 9: what would you tell yourself?

1226
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, it doesn't get better. As a next fan, no,

1227
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: no it doesn't. I mean I wasn't paying attention then.

1228
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: You know, I was like exactly.

1229
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: But but as a young Jonathan professional actor, I say, like,

1230
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: doesn't get better. For the Mets, I'd say to really

1231
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: like enjoy the ride. So it's so hard to do

1232
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: as a kid because like you're doing the things that

1233
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: you're kind of signed but also excited about, but it's

1234
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: all you know, you're kind of like a goldfish you know,

1235
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: in these kinds of situations where it's like you're really

1236
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: excited about that, and all of a sudden it's done.

1237
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: You're like, Wow, you're really excited about the next thing.

1238
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: Every every project, it becomes like a new toy.

1239
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1240
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: And so you know, talking about the episodes of like

1241
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: Wyman's World or Brotherly Love or you know, Platypus Man,

1242
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: like all the Random show existed in the nineties. Yeah,

1243
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, I think about the experiences I had with

1244
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: people more than I do about the roles. Yeah, so

1245
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: I'd say like to hold onto those as much as

1246
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: I could.

1247
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 9: So great, Shonathan, Thank you so much for spending your

1248
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 9: time with us this morning. It was you were truly

1249
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 9: one of the most fascinating guests we've we've had. We

1250
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 9: so enjoyed our time with you. Uh and so thank

1251
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 9: you so much for coming here and sharing with us.

1252
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, guys will great, Thank you too.

1253
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: By Wow. Absolutely everything about him is interesting.

1254
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 5: It really Yeah, makes me feel bad about myself some

1255
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: of these guests we've been having on lately, Danielle, can

1256
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 5: we have a stinker once in a while, please?

1257
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: So interesting. You have not believed his resume before boy

1258
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: meets world like and that we have we didn't know

1259
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: anything about it.

1260
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Doing this recap, we were like, oh remember that kid,

1261
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, yeah, he was around a bunch,

1262
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: and then he comes back like he was around a lot.

1263
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: And then now to realize, like, oh he was such

1264
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: a pro Like he was, he must have just been

1265
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: like what is happening?

1266
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 9: I can't even imagine what our set must have felt

1267
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 9: like to him. I can in Shining. He seems to

1268
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 9: be the type of person who wouldn't want to make

1269
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 9: it sound negative, So I'm going to do what he

1270
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 9: would do and just frame it as a positive. Truly,

1271
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 9: how fun must it have been to be a twelve

1272
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 9: year old who has normally been in very high pressure,

1273
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 9: high stress controlled giving it your all eight performances a

1274
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 9: week around with a bunch of adults who are also

1275
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 9: taking themselves very seriously and their roles very seriously, to

1276
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 9: then come on to our set that felt like playtime

1277
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 9: with a group of young kids who who thoroughly enjoyed

1278
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 9: each other and found fun everywhere. And for your scripts

1279
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 9: to be how can we make this more fun? How

1280
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 9: can we find more funny? And for him to be

1281
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 9: a character who's getting laughs and how do we how

1282
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 9: do we like? What a great feeling that must have

1283
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 9: been and a change of pace, So.

1284
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: So cool.

1285
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 9: I'm so glad he he was willing to come and

1286
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 9: talk with us, just like he was willing to come

1287
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 9: and be a part of our little show a little.

1288
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 5: Was willing to come and be Yeah, you're coming from

1289
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 5: to Tony Awards to on a set where we're probably like, hey,

1290
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: catch this twizzler in your mouth.

1291
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: Like I mean, watch will catch throw a grape?

1292
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: It's like, it's what we're doing.

1293
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: It's so interesting that, like, you know, if you're on

1294
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: TV or if you do movies, it's so easy to

1295
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: find out somebody's resume, but when you do theater, it's gone.

1296
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: Like the fact that he's done like fifty productions of

1297
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff, we like, we can't find that information nowhere.

1298
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess there's like a there's a Broadway database for

1299
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: like Broadway shows, but like off Broadway shows, like little

1300
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: little underground theater projects. Like he's working all the time

1301
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: and you never hear about it. It's just you know,

1302
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: if you're not there that night.

1303
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: So cool.

1304
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 9: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

1305
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 9: of pod Meets World as always. You can follow us

1306
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 9: on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us

1307
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 9: your emails pod Meets World Show at email dot com,

1308
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 9: and we have merch.

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Speaker 5: In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by

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Speaker 5: two separate yet equally important groups, the police who investigate

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Speaker 5: crimes and the district attorneys to prosecute the offenders.

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Speaker 3: These are their merch.

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Speaker 4: Pod Meetsworldshow dot com writer send us out.

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Speaker 3: We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Podmeets World is an iHeart podcast producer hosted by Danielle Fischel,

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Speaker 1: Wilfridell and Ryder Strong Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor,

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Speaker 1: Tarasubasch producer, Mattie Moore engineer and Boy Meets World Superman

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Speaker 1: Easton Out. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at Podmets World Show, or email

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Speaker 1: us at Podmeats World Show at gmail dot com.