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This is The Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.440 your hosts Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.080 Hello, folks, welcome to a new episode of The Machine podcast, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.600 part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host Josh Nelson, 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.480 and we have a lot to discuss in this episode. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.960 What a great weekend for the Chicago White Sox as 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.479 they traveled down to Saint Petersburg, Florida to take on 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.959 the tam Bay Rays, who have the best record in 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.800 the American League, the best team playing at home this season, 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.039 and the White Sox won two out of three in 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:29.480 pretty convincing fashion. They only allow three runs this weekend, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.600 a terrific series for the White Sox that will be 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.720 recapping later in the show as Sox Machines. Beat reporter 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.440 James Vegan will be joining me from Tampa to share 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.280 what was working on the pitching side and maybe a 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.399 blueprint for the White Sox offense to find some success 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.560 in the postseason. But of course, the biggest news over 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.680 the weekend for the White Sox and going up to 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.600 the trade deadline tomorrow on a Monday at five pm 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.880 Central Time, is who will the White Sox add to 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.840 their roster. And they've already added a starting pitcher of course, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.200 with the trade of the Seattle Mariners right handed starting 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.200 pitcher Louis Castillo. We have learned when he will be 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.280 making his first start with the White Sox. But before that, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.720 new Chicago White Sox general manager Chris Getz spoke to 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.880 the media and explained his rationale and why they targeted 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:18.920 Louis Castillo. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.320 You know, this was an opportunity to bring in a 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:27.200 starting pitcher that you know, we're really excited about, someone 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.120 that you know, can help lead this young pitching staff 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.600 not only cover innings, but you know, has experience pitching 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.720 in the playoffs, and if you look at you know, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.239 our club, you know we're at the bottom of the 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:44.160 league in regards to starting pitching innings, and so you know, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.840 to be able to insert someone that pitches as regularly 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:52.600 posts often as Louis Castillo, you know, has the credibility 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:57.040 into this group, we felt like it was is going 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.800 to make any meaning meaningful step in the right direction. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:02.400 Now. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.440 Uh, you know the fun part about this part of 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.880 you know, the season, when you're looking at acquisitions, you 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.720 know you can plug it into you know, a projection 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:17.320 system and you know, playoff probabilities and as you're you know, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:23.480 inputting different possibilities and potential acquisitions out there and understanding 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.240 what the acquisition costs is going to be, this uh 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:27.680 took a meaningful jump. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.280 Can at the latest public models that we have from 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.480 fangrafts dot com. Fangrafts have the White Sox giving them 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.560 a fifty six percent chance of making the postseason. And 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.360 when you take a look at winning the American League Central, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.600 the Chicago White Sox now have the best odds. They 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.320 have leaped ahead of the Cleveland Guardians and fangrafs is 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.640 giving the White Sox a forty two percent chance of 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.560 winning the American League Central But in order for the 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.360 best possible outcome for the White Sox in with this 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.960 trade of Luis Castillo, obviously not just for twenty twenty six, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.720 but beyond, maybe they get lucky and twenty twenty seven 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.320 is a great season for Louis Castillo and that besting 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.960 option picks up because of the quality of innings that 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.920 he's given the White Sox next season. In order for 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.000 that to happen, though, Louis Castillo needs to make some adjustments, 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.960 and Chris Getz is pretty confident the White Sox can 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.359 help them using the case study of what we've seen 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.640 this year from Jordan Hicks. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.160 You know, Luis was in piggyback roles. He was, you know, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.640 coming out of the bullpen and then you know, being 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.960 cut short at times, and you know, just I think 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.440 that that really did have you know, I don't know 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.839 if you would admit it, but I think anyone you 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.440 know that's been tracking it closely and knowing how you know, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.760 starters are such creatures of habit and are such competitors, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.679 especially someone like Louis Castillo, you know that that probably 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.560 did have an effect on him to what extent, I 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.720 don't really know, other than the fact that when they 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.640 gave him a you know, a clean star garading role 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.799 in that rotation, I think it was right around mid 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.400 uh mid June. Since then, I mean, it's a it's 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.680 a you know, a sub for it's a three. It's 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.839 in the three era level. So the production, uh is there, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.760 the stuff grades that we have, you know, execution all 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.960 of that, you know, just the the adjusted kind of 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.000 e RA, but also just what we believe is still 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.120 in there. And sure I think that there's there's going 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.800 to be opportunity to perhaps tweak an arsenal or some 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.839 of the delivery. And and you know, I look at 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.919 Zach Bow and our pitching groom, Brian Banister, and what 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.520 we've been able to do with some arms. You know, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.720 Jordan Hicks comes to mind. I know, you know, in 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.599 the off season, acquiring Jordan Hicks. On the surface, perhaps 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.920 that deal didn't make a whole lot of sense. Why 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.919 did they do this? And and truthfully, we saw that 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.239 there was still plenty of talent in Jordan Hooks obviously 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.560 in that case getting sandled in as well, a deal 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.640 like that and being able to unlock Jordan Hicks and 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.160 the impact that he's having right now too. Now, how 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.320 does that apply here? We think that there's there's positive 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.960 adjustments they're going to have, but even at its at 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.880 its floor, just being able to provide these innings is 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.400 going to be significant for the Chicago White Sox based 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.400 on the current group that we have, which is a 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.159 young starting group that really hasn't provided that whole you 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.599 know a lot of innings. And we've got to protect 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.359 the bullpen as well. They've the bullpen has done a 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.440 really nice job. But the quickest way of taxing a 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.760 bullpen is asking them to do too much and cover 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.120 starter innings as well. So that was part of the 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.000 calculus as well. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.680 So what's next for the Chicago White Sox before the 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:44.720 trade deadline? Well, really sounds like from Chris Gaetz that 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.599 he like to add another catcher. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:53.040 We're staying in contact with clubs and you know they're there. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.800 It seems that there are a handful of clubs that 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.120 are out there looking for catching. So that's you know, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.760 made the market maybe move a little bit slower than 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.320 you would like. So we're going to continue to monitor, 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.120 you know, the catching market. 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Cep 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.920 Pereira who was in the lineup and who made that 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.480 late lineup change and had a big day. It was 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:45.320 really a difference for us. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.680 It's the cables. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:48.840 That's not a season. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.240 Yeah, everything you had everything working and it did a 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.880 really good job and hitters counties and the off speed stuff, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.800 but really had everything working today. Obviously really efficient there. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.600 I mean it was first four nings. I think it was, 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.040 you know under forty pitches are at forty pitches just 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.120 really a fishing a really good job by him. Really 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.000 great to see, you know, for a guy to work 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.760 around some trouble there and then. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:10.720 Really doing this show. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.079 It's the race team to be it. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.480 Yeah, all these games are important, you know, obviously your season, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.120 everyone of these games is gonna be important with you're 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.120 at home or on the road, come down here in 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.360 a tough place to play against the best team in 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:26.080 the America League. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.760 Was really special. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.840 This is a race team doesn't make a lot of mistakes. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.360 You're kind of able to seize on them the first thing. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.600 And how do you feel like they kind of set 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.840 the town or put you guys in an advantage point 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:34.320 for the rest. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:35.480 Of the day. Yeah, it was huge. You know, to 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.319 get two runs early, it is obviously a nice way 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.160 to start the game. And really because of those two errors, right, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.360 I mean, those were two tough plays for them where 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.760 obviously they're such a good defensive team that they usually 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.560 make those. But you know, a good job by our guys. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.840 Citty Avenage, Jenn Score does a wild pitch. But was 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.400 that a double steel attempt or what was that? 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.360 It wasn't a double steal, No, I think it was 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.079 a read by Benny just to move up on a 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.440 dirt ball. And yeah, we just did a nice job 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.840 on the backside there on the front side, I should say, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.040 with Coles on and then Benny obviously continue on the 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:04.520 second base. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.480 Yeah, it was good. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.760 H you know, Unfortunately, well, if there is a nine 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.120 hole hitter, which end of the day. But yeah, it 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.079 was good to you know, go out there and get 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.360 some length that you know, I've wanted to, you know, 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.280 all the year, and you know it was good to 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.280 you know, just be be able to be out there good. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:20.360 Just from the command standpoint. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:21.560 How satisfying was your. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:22.439 Performance here today? 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.840 Yeah, it was really good. I mean continued from last week. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.200 I think last week, you know it was really good 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.160 and kind of just continued with that. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.280 I don't think you guys have to make any sort 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:32.880 of statement. You're in the first place by three games. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.040 There's fifty one games. Le's that you've proven on good yard. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.400 But if there was a statement, you guys did that 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:38.880 this week. I mean, how do you feel about what 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.760 this team did this entire weekend against the team with 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:41.160 the best. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.040 Record Americanly, Yeah, it's been good. I mean, anytime you 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.120 can win a series, it's really good. And you know, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.439 taking two and four from the Yankees and then two 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.120 and the three from here, it's kind of, you know, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.800 shows where we're at in the league. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.960 You were able to get you have two cutters in 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.400 on the hands of guys to get out at fourth 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.640 any jam. But you will kind of describe to everything 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.280 working like do you feel like your full yards? That 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.800 was kind of know at your commands of it. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.920 Yeah, I mean that's kind of you know, my go 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.280 to pitches of getting the cutter in on guys, and 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.439 you know the I think a lot of the success 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.880 today led with that. And I think, you know kind 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.960 of show, you know, getting the cutter in leads to 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.480 you know, gamble to use a change up a little 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.760 bit more and using the forcing them up a little bit. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.360 So I think, you know, just kind of you know 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.040 when that thing's work, and that's when I'm on my best. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.760 Now joining me on the Sox Machine podcast ISS Sox 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.600 Machines Beat reporter James Vegan joining me from Tampa as 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.280 he covered this weekend series for US down in Florida. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.559 And James, this is a bit of a shock. I 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.720 don't think a lot of people who cover the White Sox, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.760 even White Sox fans, We're expecting the White Sox to 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.720 roll into Tampa and win this series, but to do 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:48.240 so so convincingly, only holding the race at three runs. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.480 We'll talk about the pitching in a moment, but what's 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.840 your instant reaction having watched these three games, and what 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.880 it means for the White Sox to go to Tampa 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.199 and win this series. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.360 Well, I mean they allowed to run all weekend, so 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:06.560 I think the pitching obviously performed remarkably well and allowed 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.840 them to, you know, statistically look like they dominated the series. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.160 Would certainly be in every game in a way like 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.080 a Tampa offense that really great top three and then 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.560 it's very like matchup and you know, glove first guys 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.040 from there. But it's funny we're talking about them upgrading 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.839 the rotation and obviously you know, absorbing money to get 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.120 Louis Castillo and you know, still being on the hunt 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:34.040 for more starting pitching potentially, and they're the weakest links, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.160 you know, maybe had arguably their best out into the season, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.880 like Eric Fetti throws five innings of onone run ball 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.040 and gets demoted to the bullpen afterwards, and we're still 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.360 wondering out Noah Schultz, well, because there's you know, he's 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.240 at eighty eight innings. I think his career high is 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.680 eighty eight and a third. That would make a consideration 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.520 for you know, what the postseason picture is going to 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.840 look like for him and as his role regardless, But 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.880 you know, talking about maybe upgrading from him, because obviously 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.040 he's there still in the fives and he looks as 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.600 good as ever and kind of in a way where 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.040 both with how he pitched and how he talks afterwards 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.120 kind of is starting like, hey, this is how I 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:13.640 want to operate. We've kind of tinker with a lot 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.360 of iterations like this is the way I want to 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.480 work East West sinker cutter and all that. You know, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.800 Anthony k arguably one of the best starts of the year, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.520 if not the best, because of his career I six 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.160 and the third innings. You know, he wasn't blowing people 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.480 away necessarily, but like kind of like I deal like 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.200 Anthony K outing of just like weak ground balls, very 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.440 efficient throwing strikes, you know exactly what. You watch him 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.440 on film and Japan in the offseason and hope like, hey, 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.080 come do that over here. So it's not the necessarily 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:48.120 your game one or Game two starter candidates in this series. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.120 And that's you know, any given three game series you 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.240 can kind of do well. And I certainly think with 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.080 the way the White Sox have played consistently over the season, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.320 you wouldn't say put it past them to you know, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.120 beat the Rays in a series. It's just that you 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.280 felt like you were getting certainly three of the Ray's 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.800 best starters, like seeing Rasmus in there, that this was 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.160 like not this was not the back of their rotation 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.520 against the top of the raised rotation in some sense 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.040 and for them to come out. But yeah, the offense 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.240 clicked a you know, a couple of games, and I 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.840 feel like they maybe got to like the back end 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.880 of the bullpended late a bit more Sunday, whereas like 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.720 Friday was really where they kind of performed their best 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 and show the most power. I don't know why I'm 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.240 blanking on Friday starter for the Nick Martinez. Nick Martinez 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.600 all start, you know, you are a leader and certainly 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.120 someone who I was like weary, Like this feels like 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.400 super charged kider Montero. If someone's just gonna like attack 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.360 in the zone and they like always try to blitz 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.320 people and try to like you know, have this thunders 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.520 contact and you see them pile up in contact and 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:49.920 all of a sudden, like the guys into the sixth 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.320 inning on sixty pitches. Whereas Martinez was really efficient, but 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.560 they had a bunch of home runs off of him. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.040 Basically you saw the game point work, but really I 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.480 thought pitch was what really showed up. And it's kind of, 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.880 you know, interesting, like it's the guys you're thinking about, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.080 and now the rotation. Sir Anthony Iminga's had a great 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.080 inning in the series, looked awesome, struck out two guys, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.360 possibly the Bessie's looking at sacks uniform. It was a 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.680 Swan song, so it's a It was a obviously a 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.400 great performance. Obviously a lot of guys who are going 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.840 to be here through the stretch run performing very well 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.040 on this, but also like kind of some contributors that 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.360 you kind of think they're planning around, not counting on 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.280 right performing as well as well well. 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.160 Taking a look at the American League Central standings and 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.120 the White Sox are fifty nine and fifty two this season. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.520 They have a three game lead over the Cleveland Guardians, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.040 and that's significant because when you look at the American 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.880 League East and American League West, the White Sox have 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.560 the largest division lead in the American League right now. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.320 The Houston Astros have just absolutely caught on fire. They 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.240 have taken over in the American League West. I don't 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.120 think anyone could make sense of what's going on in 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:07.159 that division and the Yankees winning some games at Wrigley 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.520 Field this week in the White Sox doing them a 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.920 favor and beating the Rays this weekend, they are within 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.040 three games. So yeah, the White Sox in the American League, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:22.480 James Vegan, I have the largest division lead in the league, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.840 which is just really just fascinating right now of this 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.640 particular season for the White Sox. But I did want 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.200 to follow up as far as on the pitching side, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.080 because you make good points. Let Eric Fetti's going to 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.040 the bullpen and Noah Schultz had an opener. Jordan Hicks 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.800 looked very efficient in that first inning, and then Anthony kay. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.600 Not only did Anthony Kay I think pitched well to contact, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.000 but Anthony k made some great defensive plays. I want 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.919 to start with Noah Schultz because it was something that 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.520 Schultz said postgame. James said he has a good working 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.520 relationship with Edgar Carroll. And if you didn't get a 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.280 chance podcast listeners to listen to live reaction when the 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.440 White Sox made the trade for Luis Castillo. You heard 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.480 from Chris Gatz to the earlier part of the show 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.440 talking about in that he doesn't know who the next 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.600 catcher is going to be that they acquire, but the 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.280 plan is for the White Sox before the trade deadline 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.439 tomorrow that they're going to add another catcher with that 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.320 relationship that Noah Schultz in the competence that he has 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.000 with Edgar Carro. Does that help Edgar Caro keep his 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.439 job at least with the major league roster? And are 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.520 the White Sox looking to replace Drew Romo? 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.119 I would think no, Romo's gonna getting the majority of 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.760 the starts, and that continued through this series since they 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.000 lost heel. He's they're either splitting as either the Yankee 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.879 series or Romo's doing two out of three okay, so, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.280 and he's a superior framer and that like push comes 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:51.719 a shove, that's usually what they value, especially like in 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.960 a situation right now, like if Caro just like caught 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.640 fire or just hit like he did last year, which 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.879 he's showing signs of doing, but maybe not like huge 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.000 games where it's just like oh wow, like how do 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.040 you take that guy out of the lineup? Then that 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.120 that alters it, of course, but you know we're talking 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.159 about literally they're not playing another game before the end 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.200 of the deadline and the GM say we're adding a catcher. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.960 I don't think that he really has the runway to 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.480 alter the balance and that aspect, even if he thinks 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.960 he's trending in the right direction offensively, and it certainly 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.600 looked more like twenty twenty five Hector Carrow. I think 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.000 like Romo's kind of establishes like the guy that you 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.560 know is framing more close to average at this point 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.040 in his career. Not that Carol can't get there at 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.080 some point, but like right now, and certainly you're talking 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.480 about someone who, when they acquire Catcher and certainly when 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.760 deal comes back, is shifting towards like a playing once 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.800 a series role. You just as soon send the I 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:43.440 don't know if Karro's turned twenty three yet, but the 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.200 guy who you still feel like has some ceiling back 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.600