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Speaker 1: Ron Anian got in the truck and lo and behold

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Speaker 1: the gas gauges on him, and I said, wow, the

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Speaker 1: gas gauge must be broken, because nobody would really drop

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Speaker 1: off a vehicle for a running problem with no gas

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Speaker 1: in it, right, I mean, how dunn can people be.

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Speaker 2: Juning these?

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Speaker 1: The car Doctor. When I talked to the owner a

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Speaker 1: short time later, I said, by the way, I guess

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Speaker 1: the gas gauge is broken. He said, no, it works.

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Speaker 1: Why I said, well, the gas gauge is on in

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Speaker 1: and that says little fuel lights on. He goes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's out of gas. You can stop and put gas

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Speaker 1: in it for me, right, Yeah, I can do that.

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Speaker 1: I can wash it too if you want. It's just

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Speaker 1: going to cost you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick.

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Speaker 1: Up the phone and call in. The garage doors are open,

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Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five five five six hundred and now he.

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Speaker 3: Running yep R.

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Speaker 1: I am listeners on an Amy and at your service.

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Speaker 1: Another hour, car Doctor, and let's kick it off. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's go to the phones right away. Let's get going

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Speaker 1: because we've got a lot of phone calls this hour.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Norman. Is that Norman and Queen's County,

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Speaker 1: New York, Norman. Welcome to the car doctor Star.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thanksful, lot Ron. Everyone got a good I got

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Speaker 4: a perplexing problem that everyone should have. Okay, I've been

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Speaker 4: listening to you since nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're making me coming off.

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Speaker 4: You helped me out with my BMW a short time

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Speaker 4: ago when you diagnosed it because specifically at the fob

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Speaker 4: wasn't working and we got to fixed up. Now my

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Speaker 4: and you can buy it back at twenty seven thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars two thousand and two BMW X five x three

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Speaker 4: two twenty two, two, twenty twenty two, twenty two. Guys,

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Speaker 4: Now the question comes in the repay, Well, you come,

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Speaker 4: affulle and you have to have the car fixed. It

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Speaker 4: is just crazy on prices for anything you want done.

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Speaker 4: And at what point do you tell yourself you know something?

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Speaker 4: It was I'm seventy three years old. It was a

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Speaker 4: good experiment. My wife and I love the car. Now

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Speaker 4: let's just go back to a Toyota rav four that

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Speaker 4: we always like, and we can buy a brand new

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Speaker 4: car which has sixteen thousand miles on it. We don't

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Speaker 4: do much traveling. And then you have to put up

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Speaker 4: with the repairs. But when you look at the prices,

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Speaker 4: but it costs thousands of dollars or something that is

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Speaker 4: just like out of we can't afford that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: put it that way, and if you buy a maintenance

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Speaker 5: So what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know, cars, cars have become a lifestyle Norman, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know where this occurred. I think in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty years. It was a slow process. But as you,

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Speaker 1: as you and everyone else is finding out, it's you

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Speaker 1: lease the car and they cover the cost of repairs,

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Speaker 1: They cover everything. Right, you had a great three two

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Speaker 1: and it was a great Yeah it was. That was

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Speaker 1: Or are the numbers the same?

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Speaker 4: Much more?

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Speaker 5: Much more?

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Speaker 4: Because surprised And the problem not The problem is that

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Speaker 4: nothing's gone wrong with the car, right, So as you

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Speaker 4: always say, always maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, any new car, any car.

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Speaker 4: After three years, you got to think about brakes, you

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Speaker 4: gotta think about fluid changes, you got to think about transmission. Right,

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Speaker 4: I now it's clothing thousands of dollars to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think you are on the right beam, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I think the idea that you know what you had,

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Speaker 1: the social experiment, you had, the lifestyle. It's a nice car. Look,

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the Toyota, nothing wrong with a RAF four. Right,

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Speaker 4: That way into the next thing. Because you always help

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Speaker 4: But if we want the raw four, do we stick

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Speaker 4: with a RAV four hybrid or the regular RAV four

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Speaker 4: for a car that's going to last. Okay, In other words,

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Speaker 4: which one has the best repair history?

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Speaker 5: And your your say, so, I think they.

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Speaker 1: Both have a good track record, Norman, I think both

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Speaker 1: it's it's what what are you more comfortable and what

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Speaker 1: there's a whole again. We're back to the lifestyle comment.

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Speaker 1: All Right, this is gonna this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: You said seventy two, seventy three.

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Speaker 4: On seventy three, so it's going to be my last.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's your last car. I know everybody gets

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Speaker 1: You know, the day before I go, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't drive just to rav for you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you get you know it, you know it.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy. It's it's and what are you getting

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Speaker 1: and you're going to see that change as the economy changes,

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Speaker 1: There has to be an evolution here. You know, if

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Speaker 1: saying that we want to throw money around, I don't care,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't care how much money you have.

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Speaker 1: You just don't throw money around. You got to short respect, right,

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Speaker 4: To use common sense. Right, cars for transportation. You know,

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Speaker 4: my wife and I had just you know, just what

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Speaker 4: good experiment having it. It felt good, but now it

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Speaker 4: feels stupid buying a coffee that much funny, It's like

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Speaker 4: you'd like to spend your money other things in life.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, now do you do? You go out and

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Speaker 4: I buy it, I buy it, buy it?

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Speaker 1: Do you buy it?

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Speaker 1: Did you look at the least numbers?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the at least he went for like three hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty dollars a month. But you know something, when

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Speaker 4: you rent something wrong, you're when you lease something, you're

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Speaker 4: renting you don't own, right, And I've always liked owning

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Speaker 4: something to say it's mine, right, And I always followed

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Speaker 5: You just do.

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Speaker 4: I change the oil every three thousand miles transmission fluid.

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Speaker 4: It was once a year. I was going overboard on

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Speaker 4: say it's mine. I'm taking good care of it. But

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Speaker 4: at least I'm saying it's not rented. And the least

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Speaker 4: look I can afford at least right now because the

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Speaker 1: Did you did you drive a rap for yet?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you s the own one?

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Speaker 1: No, have you driven? Have you driven a new one?

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Speaker 4: we have to go down and try. It's something that

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Speaker 4: appreciate that all up ron call up Roun and find

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Speaker 4: I have to fix the car. But I come to

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Speaker 4: go back to my nineteen seventy a Crown Victoria. That

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Speaker 4: was the best car I ever had in my life.

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Speaker 4: But and that was a colloborated car.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was trained. I was trained as

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Speaker 1: People say this to me. They like my old school approach,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: You've got to remember my dad was an airline mechanic.

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Speaker 1: He always taught me, you know, this is the procedure.

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Speaker 1: You don't skip the step four. And Billy, my first

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Speaker 1: He had a genius mentality. You know, proper maintenance done properly.

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Speaker 1: I've said that about Billy but he just taught me

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Speaker 1: procedure and process. My dad was gone at that point.

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Speaker 1: But old school mechanics, you know what, it's still nuts

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Speaker 4: I believe what you always say. Maintenance all the way, yep,

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome, Norman. You have a good rest of

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Speaker 4: My best to your wife listening to you all the time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You'd be well, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Don't go away.

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Speaker 4: For the best in car advice, give run a call

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Speaker 7: Now back to Ron and.

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Speaker 1: We're back listeners running any of the card Doctor here

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Speaker 1: Don and Virginia. Don. Welcome to the Card Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help Hi?

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Speaker 5: Ron? Thanks? You and I talked early in November two

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Speaker 5: thousand and sixty one. Fifty had gotten a whole plethora

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Speaker 5: and I told my wife, I said, I'm just going

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Speaker 5: I said, well, we'll see. So I took it to

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Speaker 5: And I said, really, He said, yeah. We put a

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Speaker 5: You got a wiring harness problem. And apparently the wiring

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Speaker 5: it out, repaired it. Because you can't find a wiring hardness,

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Speaker 1: Well there's that, and there's also you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: beat yourself up right. You don't know, all right. You

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Speaker 1: put multiple parts. It looked like you were guessing, but

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Speaker 1: you know, would it could have? Should have? Do you

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Speaker 5: I do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so guess what now you got to back up right,

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Speaker 5: Is a well it was so it was factory with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know what, not a work van.

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Speaker 1: Now you got to spare a PCM. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: One other quick question. Sure, I've got to change the

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Speaker 5: Well, two valve first cylinder, so I don't have to

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Speaker 5: And obviously, just the issue is you have to you know,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, yeah, so listen, it might be easier

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Speaker 5: That's a good idea, because I've had those out before

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Speaker 1: So all right, okay, so you know that might help

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad it worked out for you, all right,

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Speaker 1: and the kid. I appreciate you getting back to us all.

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Speaker 2: Right, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ron, You're very welcome to be well. I'm running

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Speaker 2: Don't go away, good.

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Speaker 1: Trans Welcome back listeners, run an inn in the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: Let's go on over. Let's go talk to Bill in

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Speaker 1: Sussex County, New Jersey. Bill. Welcome to the car doctor, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how can I help hi?

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Speaker 4: Ron?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for taking the call, the long time listener from WTBQ.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Trying to help out my sister who was in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: She sent me a picture of a tire from her

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Speaker 6: Audi that has some curb rash on it, and basically

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Speaker 6: maybe a quarter of an inch deep. So I told

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Speaker 6: her to take it to the local tire shop to

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Speaker 6: get an evaluation. They looked at it and their opinion

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Speaker 6: was that the tire did exactly what it was supposed

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Speaker 6: to do. That there's no steel belt showing, and that

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Speaker 6: for the time being, it was okay to leave it

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Speaker 6: as it is. I kind of err on the side

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Speaker 6: but I wanted to get your thoughts on it as well.

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Speaker 1: So good and it's a good question, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you called. Then, you know that sidewall of the tire,

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Speaker 1: this being an audi this is probably what we call

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Speaker 1: the tire shop is right. The side casing of the

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Speaker 1: tire did exactly its job. It protected tire in the

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Speaker 1: sense of something going through the steel belt, which is

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Speaker 1: now even though it's not hanging out, it's it's much

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Speaker 1: more exposed than it normally would be. You know, this

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Speaker 1: Is you ever skin your elbow and you don't bleed,

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Speaker 1: skin underneath, and now it's a little you know, and

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Speaker 1: it hurts a little bit when you rest on your elbow,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you start bleeding. Because

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Speaker 1: you kind of poked through. You know, she's taken away

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Speaker 1: that outer layer. So there's there's if something were to

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Speaker 1: and that's a pretty good gash right that size that

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Speaker 1: you that you had mentioned. You know, if something were

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Speaker 1: to come up in the road, Now, where's the side

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Speaker 1: casing that's going to deflect? And you know, Bill, I

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Speaker 1: and especially in an Audi, especially a low profile tire.

436
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's going to be a two

437
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: hundred dollars tire or two hundred and fifty dollars tire,

438
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: But what's her life? What's what's the car worth? What's

439
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: not getting stuck on the side of the road or

440
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: in an accident worth? And I think i'd have to

441
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: vote with you because I know what you're thinking. I'd

442
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: put a tire on the car. I wouldn't hesitate, especially.

443
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 6: If you're gonna be going on a long trip.

444
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely listen and yes, but even if

445
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: she was gonna just you know, I don't care if

446
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: she's a three mile a day commuter. You know, everybody says, well,

447
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: I only go three miles a day. Just make the

448
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: brakes work good.

449
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 5: Enough.

450
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, a little kid rolls out on a bicycle

451
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: right in front of you, two blocks from your house.

452
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: There's no saying where that accident's gonna happen. And I

453
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: think it's in her best interest. You know that tire, Yes,

454
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: if that tire was just used, you know, does she

455
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: make that tire the spare? But then now she's got

456
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: an unreliable spare in the car, and it probably wouldn't

457
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: fit because she probably has a space saver or some

458
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 1: other depending upon the year, AUDI some other low profile

459
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: so to speak, or low use tire. You know, there's

460
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: so many ways they create space today. I think you

461
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: go out and buy a spare, and if it tore

462
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: the chunk out, depending upon how many miles are on it,

463
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: I'd probably shoot the alignment too.

464
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 6: I was thinking of that too. Yeah, And I did

465
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 6: suggest to her that she should probably buy two tires

466
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 6: since that's an all wheel drive vehicle.

467
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Right. Well, and now now the question comes up, right,

468
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: and this is I know where this is going to go,

469
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: because now the question comes up, how much tread has

470
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: left on the other tires?

471
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: Yes, so.

472
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: You know, the industry says certain cars subarrus are susceptible

473
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 1: to it. Certain models of jeep are susceptible to it.

474
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, Audi's seem to be a little less fussy.

475
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: But I don't want to temp tempt the devil. You know,

476
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: if I'm looking at tread depth, and if the current

477
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: tread depth on the car is you know, less than

478
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: five thirty seconds, which is more than fifty percent worn.

479
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: And she's going to put two fresh tires up front

480
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: if she's gonna do some serious driving. You know what,

481
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: how old are the tires are they? You know, four

482
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 1: or five years old? You know, those tires are going

483
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: to be date coated in four or five years. They'll

484
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: be out of the realm in another two years where

485
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be riding on them. So again,

486
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: what's the value of her safety at high speed, all

487
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: kinds of weather. Nothing handles like a fresh set of tires.

488
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: And I think it's just kind of goes with the

489
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: territory of what she's driving.

490
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: All right, that's great advice. I appreciate it.

491
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: You know, I can't say it any other way. The

492
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: biggest concern I have is, you know, here, I'll tell

493
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: you the story this way. We had a jeep in

494
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: the shop just recently and the new customer and where

495
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: he was going. They'd been doing all his service work

496
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: and all the lug nuts were swollen. Now jeeps have

497
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: a problem that the lug nut is capped, so there

498
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: there's a hard steel body underneath this tiny aluminum cap.

499
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: And if you constantly air gun them on and off

500
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: impact hammer them on and off, eventually those lug nuts

501
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: will start to splinter and shred, and then moisture gets

502
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: in and now the moisture turns into rust, and the

503
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: rust and there's a bulge, and now you can't fit

504
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: the nineteen millimeters socking on it. You have to have

505
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: a nineteen and a half or some other odd ball

506
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: size in order to get the lugnuts off. So you know,

507
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: Rich brought it in. We got all the lugnuts off,

508
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: but in looking at the wheels, the wheels on this jeep,

509
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: you could see that they were getting beat up. And

510
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: when we talked about it, it's partially it's the last shot.

511
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: They were kind of animals, for lack of a way

512
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: to say it, but it was kind of interesting to

513
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: see just how these wheels themselves had picked up debris

514
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of junk on the road, and

515
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: you know, it catches your eye and you have to

516
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: realize you may not hear it, see it, or feel it,

517
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: but to have an exposed wound in that tire. I

518
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: looked at Rich's wheels on his jeep and we did

519
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: get the lugnuts off.

520
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: By the way.

521
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: I took a little bit of persuasion. Some day, I'll

522
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: tell you guys this story about how we had to

523
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 1: get out the three quarter inch breaker bar that's two

524
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: feet long and literally stand on it to break some

525
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: of the lugnuts loose. They were so overtightened. You know,

526
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: it's what's the safety. I've never met anybody standing on

527
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: the side of the road with a flat that they

528
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: knew was marginal. Going. Boy, I'm so glad I saved

529
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: money that I could get stuck here, and you know,

530
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: wait for the tow truck. It just doesn't work like that.

531
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: So by all means, get her, get her, get her

532
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: a tire, two tires, four tires, you know what. Take it,

533
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: take it as a warning sign and do an alignment

534
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: and then you drive in peace and quiet and the

535
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: knowledge of safety.

536
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 6: Right, And I'm happy that tire buying is easier than

537
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 6: picking out oil or getting a forty light bulb in

538
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 6: the local hardware store.

539
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely absolutely Bill. So all right, sir, you'd

540
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: be aware.

541
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 6: Happy New Year, Happy and healthy new year to everyone.

542
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill, and thanks for being part of the

543
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: card doctor family.

544
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 6: You'd be well, you're very welcome.

545
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm running in in the car doctor. We'll be back

546
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: right after this.

547
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Don't go away, look.

548
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: Back, listeners, run an indie in the card Doctor. Let's

549
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: get back to the phones. Let's go over to Jerry

550
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: out there. And I think it's is it Las Vegas, Jerry?

551
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: Or what part of the VAT are you from?

552
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 7: No, I'm retired in Las Vegas. I'm from the East

553
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 7: Coast directionally born in New York. But yeah, I'm retired.

554
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Good for you. So what's going on? How can

555
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: I help?

556
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 7: Well, a couple of quick things. Number one, I'm sixty five,

557
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 7: graduated high school in seventy six, and I've always worked

558
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 7: on my own car, basic stuff, changing on and everything,

559
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 7: and I've always kept vehicles ten plus years. Well, in

560
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, I basically went to the Ram dealer

561
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 7: and built my dream truck because this gentry Eco Diesel

562
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 7: had great reviews and looked good, and I wanted a

563
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 7: diesel for the field economy and towing. My RV received

564
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 7: the truck in March twenty twenty two. All was good

565
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 7: at first, and then all of a sudden, when diesel

566
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 7: was a buck fifty more than gas, I took my

567
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 7: old Nissan pickup truck and went cross country. Came back

568
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 7: a month later. The diesel sat for months, all of

569
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 7: a sudden, bang bang bang, engine codes, engine codes wrong, wrong,

570
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 7: long dealer for weeks at a time. Because they're short

571
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 7: diesel technicians, EGR went out turbo problems, an absolute nightmare,

572
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 7: and especially sitting for months and months and months. I've

573
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 7: got the bills in front of me. Obviously I didn't

574
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 7: pay them because it's under warranty, but it's over eleven

575
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 7: thousand dollars pairs.

576
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. What that tells me is not only do they

577
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: not have any diesel texts, the texts that are working

578
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: on it are clueless. But you know, I guess it's

579
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: easy to criticize from my seat here it's in the

580
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: safety of the studio. But I got to tell you

581
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: it's you know, you hang one part two parts As

582
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: an educated guests, after that, it's time to call in

583
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the zone rep and start talking to somebody and saying, Hey,

584
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: what's going on? Where we're going with this? That was

585
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: probably I'm going to guess Jerry at seventy or eighty

586
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars.

587
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 7: Vehicle sixty five?

588
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right? A lot of money, Yeah, a.

589
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 7: Lot, a lot of money. And I paid cash for

590
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 7: it because I'm retired and I've saved my money. So

591
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 7: I was. I was going on a trip to meet

592
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: an old Marine Corps buddy I hadn't seen in years,

593
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, the whole emission system went

594
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 7: crap again. So I wrote, I wrote a personal letter

595
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 7: to to fight Fiat Chrysler. No response. So I went

596
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 7: and got one of these Lemon law lawyers online and

597
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 7: they said, oh, you got a great case, you got

598
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 7: a great case, you got a great case. Well, let

599
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 7: me tell you the Lemon law lawyer guys, especially, some

600
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 7: of these guys online are a total rip off themselves.

601
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 7: And I can get into that if you want, But

602
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 7: long story short, every time I brought it back with

603
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 7: something wrong. So Thanksgiving weekend, I just I took the

604
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 7: plunge and I just traded it in and I took

605
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 7: a beating and I got a Toyota. So I got

606
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 7: a twenty twenty three Toyota right and and and it

607
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 7: was just and when the ram ran nice, it ran fantastic.

608
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 7: But I don't know if you've had experience with these

609
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 7: eco diesels, but I've heard other guys who've had these

610
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 7: disaster stories with the turbos and the emissions and everything.

611
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a fan of diesel in general in

612
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: that application for a lot of reasons. Number one, Chrysler's involved,

613
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: and you know, the older ones when it was the

614
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: comings back in you know, the older the what was

615
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: it the three's or the ninety eight's going way back,

616
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: that seemed to be a better diesel. The newer one,

617
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: the more electronics they hang on it, it seems like

618
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: the more difficult it is to properly maintain it and

619
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: get some kind of decent power out of it. And

620
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of limitations. But that be said, you know,

621
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: we still work on them, we still see them. They're

622
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: just not my favorite in the whole world. I still

623
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: think what happened with you is and you know, let

624
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: me point out the next time, if you if you

625
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: decide to take the plunge again. I don't think you will,

626
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: but just in case, you know the question I always

627
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: ask when I'm buying something weird, I want to know

628
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: who's going to work on it? Hey, do you have

629
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: a tech trained in this? And surprisingly, I'm surprised the

630
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: dealership was able to sell it to you and not

631
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: have a certified tech. You know, the way General Motors works,

632
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: for example, is they've got to have a certified Corvette

633
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: tech on hand before they can sell a Corvette. If

634
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: they don't have a guy that can fix it, they

635
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: can't sell it. And I believe the other car companies

636
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: do the same thing. So I'm not sure where the

637
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: bump in the road became in that you couldn't get

638
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: this solved, And I guess it's just a reflection on

639
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: the dealer really, because if they wanted to fix it,

640
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: they could. You know, there is a culture when you

641
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: buy a vehicle, Jerry, and I think you know that

642
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: now in terms of you know, you just got an

643
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: example of how Chrysler or how Ram, Dodge, Fiat, whoever

644
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: they are, you know, handles customer service and handles problems

645
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: like that. You'll be happy with the Toyota. I can

646
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: tell you.

647
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 7: That, absolutely right.

648
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: And it's a different culture, right, It was very different,

649
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: the different buying experience totally.

650
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 7: And I'm gotta tell you I wanted the twenty twenty

651
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 7: three because I'm tired because they this year they're going

652
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Speaker 7: to turbos and everything. Right, I'm stuck at turbos. I'm

653
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Speaker 7: sick of too much junk on there. I wanted to NASPA,

654
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 7: naturally aspirated, you know, basic stuff that I could work on.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 7: No, absolutely, And let me can I make a quick

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Speaker 7: comment about these Lemon lawyer guys for shures on the

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Speaker 7: ear if they ever choose to go to one. In

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Speaker 7: the fine print, you know, you think you think you

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Speaker 7: sign on with a lawyer because the lawyer is going

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 7: to look after you, look after you, He's going to

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Speaker 7: be on your side. Well, in the fine print of

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Speaker 7: what I signed, it said, if you receive an offer

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Speaker 7: from Fiat Chrysler and you do not accept it, you

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00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 7: have to pay the lawyer fees. Well, I'm thinking, fine, okay,

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Speaker 7: you know, get it to.

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Speaker 4: Get an offer.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think these guys work with them. Chrysler came

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Speaker 7: back with this low ball offer, and I went to

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Speaker 7: the lawyer Mark, I'm not taking this, Let's go to court.

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00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: He goes, well, we're not sure, blah blah blah, and

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Speaker 7: they started dancing around.

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Speaker 4: So basically, all all of.

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Speaker 1: A sudden, it became your your fault and what did

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00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: you do wrong? Yep, I get it, Jerry, I really do. Hey, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: sit tight, stay on the line, let me pull over,

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Speaker 1: take a pause for the cause, and welcome back to you.

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Speaker 1: Don't go away, I'm running any of the card. Doctor

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00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: will be back right after this. Welcome back. Listeners were

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Speaker 1: kind of winding down the hour here, Jerry from Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: You're still there, yes, sir, so I'm sorry, Jerry, I

682
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: mean to cut you off. Tell us some you know,

683
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Speaker 1: I'll give you a little bit of on air therapy here.

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00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: So the Lemon law lawyers aren't exactly why they're cracked

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Speaker 1: up to be a fair statement exactly.

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Speaker 7: And it's state by state. You got to look at

687
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 7: your state. Some states are stronger than others. Nevada's in between.

688
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 7: But you really got to read the five print with

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Speaker 7: these guys, because I think they'll put the screws to

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Speaker 7: you if they get the chance.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right, So well, Jerry, listen, I appreciate

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: you calling in my spies. Tell me that you are

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00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: is it? Is it a How do you say it?

694
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: When you're no longer in the Marine Corps active duty?

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00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Are you a retired marine? You're not an ex marine.

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00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as an ex marine.

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 7: Right well, I did thirty years, so I'm a retired marine.

698
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 7: It lets me sit on my buttet. Can I do

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Speaker 7: a quick shout out because my local garage guys exactly

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Speaker 7: like you. It's Dad's garage or North Raanio in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 7: Sure works the same way you do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jerry, It's been a pleasure, sir, And thank you

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Speaker 1: for your service.

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Speaker 7: No thanks, love the show.

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Speaker 1: You take care, you take good care. I'm ronning any

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Speaker 1: and the car doctor, you know, and poor Jerry, right

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00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: he's he He ended up, you know, going in, and

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00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: I wish I had found him sooner in that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could have I could have helped him, you know,

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00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe we could have diagnosed it together. Part of the

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00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: problem is all right, you know, you go into a

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Speaker 1: dealership under warranty. Warranty doesn't mean it's getting fixed. It

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00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: just means that it's going to be looked at for free,

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Speaker 1: all right. And I still stand on the premise and

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Speaker 1: my my saying that I've said over the years that

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Speaker 1: a repair shop is only as good as the people

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Speaker 1: in it. The sign on the door doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're buying oh no, you're buying

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Speaker 1: a four cylinder Toyota camera, it's a pretty safe bet

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Speaker 1: they've got a guy that can work on that. But

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Speaker 1: if you're buying an Eco diesel from your Ram dealership,

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00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: you're buying a Corvette from your Chevrolet dealership, or you know,

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Speaker 1: back in the day, you're buying something, do you have

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Speaker 1: a guy that can fix this? Is he any good?

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00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: How old is he? Is he going to retire in

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks? You know, these are all great questions,

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00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: all things you want to know, because it's all gonna

728
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: come down to sooner or later, that vehicle's gonna have

729
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: to get serviced and you're gonna need that person in

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Speaker 1: order to properly, you know, enjoy and get a life

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Speaker 1: cycle out of it. If the dealer is your guy,

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Speaker 1: if the dealer's going to be the one to work

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Speaker 1: on it, and you know, unfortunately Jerry had a bad

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Speaker 1: run of luck, but he'll like that Toyota. And I

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Speaker 1: get what he's saying. He's talking about his new Toyota.

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Speaker 1: He wanted a twenty three because in twenty four Toyota

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Speaker 1: also is going to all turbo chargers, or a lot

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Speaker 1: of turbo chargers. And you know, I questioned that as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big turbot charger fan. I think it's

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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: it's an extra work where you don't necessarily need it

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00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: all the time. But we'll say, you know what, turbo

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Speaker 1: charger technology has come a long way and we'll have

743
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Speaker 1: to learn to embrace it. Hey, that's about it for now,

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Speaker 1: till the next time I on an any and the

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Speaker 1: card doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're prices.

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Speaker 2: Sh