1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: The last week. There was a story. I'm telling him 4 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: a stack here. I used to love when Rush would 5 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: go through his stack. I always wanted to have a stack, 6 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: or to go through. Boy, there's a stack of stuff 7 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: I could There's so many, so many stories we could 8 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: go through today. But in my stack, if I can 9 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: find it, I have an embarrassment of riches. Here. Here 10 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: it is. It's clip number six one five, and it's 11 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan Turley talking about President Trump doing what he promised 12 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: he would do. 13 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: Well. 14 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: He's carrying out those campaign pledges. He wants to shrink government, 15 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: he wants to find fraud and to do that he 16 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: needs to look at the books. And I just find 17 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: any real effort to prevent that likely to be reversed 18 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: on appeal. 19 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: You know, you'd think, why would taxpayers be opposed to that? 20 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: But you would expect Jonathan Turley to be interviewed on 21 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Fox News and say that what about when Dana Bash, 22 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: who is an unabashed liberal and a terrible journalist, what 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: about when she has to listen to the fact that 24 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: voters who voted for Biden in twenty twenty and switched 25 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: to Trump in twenty twenty four. What about when they 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: tell CNN and she has to sit there like she's 27 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: constipated to look on her face as they tell CNN 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: they like what Trump's doing. 29 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 5: Talked to some Arizona voters who have switched from voting 30 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 5: for Joe Biden in twenty twenty to Trump in twenty 31 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: twenty four, and so far they mostly like what they see. 32 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 6: I just think he's trying to get America back on 33 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 6: track as quickly as possible given the seat. 34 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 7: That was left in from the previous administration. 35 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: It feels more married and transparency that I'm getting from 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the administration so far. 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 7: I approve of a lot of. 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 8: The stuff that he's doing with the border and. 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 9: Everything other countries I noticed that were to give you 40 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 9: taken seriously, But. 41 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 10: In most part, I feel like he's on the right 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 10: track by keeping transgenders out of women's sports as number. 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 5: One, all eleven Biden Trump voters say they approve of 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: Donald Trump's first weeks in office. 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: When you have CNN running a story about how high 46 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's approval rating is and compare that to Mitch McConnell, 47 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: who is determined to thwart him at every turn, poor 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: old man. But the people love what Trump is doing, 49 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: and that's what's important. 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 11: Talk a little bit about Mitch McConnell and the chance 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 11: he's going to become a folk hero. 52 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 8: It ain't going to likely happen. Ain't gonna likely. 53 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 11: Happen, because I want you to look at his net 54 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 11: approval rays he is underwater with everybody. He has got 55 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 11: the ultimate or might say, some might say sad trifecta 56 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 11: of being underwater overall minus thirty nine points, thirty nine 57 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 11: percentage points more of the electric disapprovas for the jobs 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 11: that he has done. How about Democrats, he's fifty eight 59 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 11: points underwater. 60 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 8: My goodness, gracious. 61 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 11: The chance that all of a sudden, just because he 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 11: casts three votes against Trump, that he's somehow become a 63 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 11: folk here with them is absolutely frankly insane. And then 64 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 11: with the Republicans, of course, he's gone up against Trump before, 65 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 11: and that's why he's seventeen points underwater Republicans. When you're 66 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 11: underwater with Democrats, Republicans and overall, the chance that you're 67 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 11: going to become a folk hero, it seems rather low to. 68 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: Me, Paula indeed. 69 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: All right. 70 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: Of course, the next question is how does his popularity 71 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 5: compare with that of President Trump? 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, so you know, I think Donald Trump will like 73 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 11: these numbers. All right, So let's take a look. This 74 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 11: is the net approval rating I got overall and I 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 11: got with Republicans. Look how much higher Donald Trump is 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 11: overall versus Mitch mcconnall. Look at that Trump is on 77 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 11: the positive side of the ledger at plus three. Mitch McConnell, 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 11: of course underwater overall at minus thirty nine. So Trump 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 11: is forty two points higher the Mitch McConnell is overall 80 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 11: among Republicans. Of course, Donald Trump very popular there with 81 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 11: a plus eighty two point net approval rating. Of course, 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 11: Mitch mcconnll again underwater at minus seventeen. So you do 83 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 11: the math quickly here eighty two seventeen. That is nearly 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 11: one hundred points higher that Donald Trump is grover rating 85 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 11: wise with Republicans that Mitch McConnell is. The bottom line 86 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 11: is that when it comes to the popularity battle, Donald 87 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 11: Trump comes out way, way, way ahead of Mitch McConnell. 88 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but is this just a problem with majority leaders. 89 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 5: Is this like a heavy is the head situation? I mean, 90 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: put this into historical conduct text. Where does he stack 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 5: up against other majority leaders? 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 12: Yeah? 93 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 11: I always like going through the history books, right, I'll 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 11: love spreadsheets. I love history books. So let's go take 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 11: a look through the history books. We'll take a look 96 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 11: at the net popularity ratings of GOP center leaders their 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 11: final ratings as majority leaders. 98 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 8: Take a look here. 99 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 11: Mitch McConnell again underwater at minus thirty nine points. 100 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 8: How about his predecessor, doctor. 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 11: Bill Frist from the Great State of Tennessee. He was 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 11: underwater two, but he was only at minus eight points. 103 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 11: Trent Lott was at plus five points from the Great 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 11: State of Mississippian. Of course, Bob Dole from the Great 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 11: State of Kansas, he was above water as well at 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 11: plus six points. So the bottom line is Mitch McConnell 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 11: a historical anomaly when it comes to Republican leaders, is far, far, 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 11: far more underwater than any of the past GOP leaders 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 11: over the last forty years. 110 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: Paula and let's take it to break on this one. 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: Also appearing on CNN, Frank Lutz talking about voters who 112 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: voted for Biden and Clinton, but then voted for Trump 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. So they didn't vote for him 114 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: the first time in sixteen, didn't vote for him in 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: twenty they did vote for him this time, and guess what, 116 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: they love what he's doing. 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 13: We want to have you on because you do a 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 13: lot of focus groups. You really get behind the numbers, 119 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 13: the poll numbers, to the sentiments of voters. 120 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting. 121 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 13: You've been speaking with a number of voters who were 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 13: Hillary Clinton twenty sixteen, Joe Biden twenty twenty, and then 123 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 13: went for Trump in twenty twenty four. How are these 124 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 13: folks seeing the early days of Trump's second term pretty well? 125 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 8: Really? 126 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 14: And they react to it because they love the pace 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 14: of change. They were very fed up over the last 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 14: four years. They wanted action, they wanted results. They looked 129 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 14: at prices, they looked at affordability, looked at immigration, and 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 14: they didn't see anything happening. They still don't like what 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 14: he says, but they like what he does. And these 132 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 14: are Democrats now who felt that they were not securing 133 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 14: the border, they were doing nothing to prevent illegal immigration, 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 14: that nothing was actually happening. They wanted to see a 135 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 14: reduction and waite for Washington spending, and they're seeing that. 136 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 14: So what they tell me is, I wish you'd be 137 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 14: a little bit less rude. But at the same time, 138 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 14: they like what he's doing. They believe he's serious about it, 139 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 14: and for the first time they have confidence in the future, 140 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 14: which is why you now see some significant shifts in 141 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 14: the polling about the expectations for the direction in the 142 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 14: coming years. 143 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 13: It's a big wake up call for Democrats. 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 14: I'm waiting for them to get a message. I'm waiting 145 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 14: for them to unify and to understand that to and 146 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 14: to be the resistance, which is what. 147 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 8: Some of them used that phrase. 148 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 14: That's not what democrats in grassroots areas want from them. 149 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 14: They may not want the approach that Trump is doing 150 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 14: President Trump, by the way, I now know to say 151 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 14: President Trump, but they do want action and they don't 152 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 14: see action from the Democrats. 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: If you can't say something nice, you can always say it. 154 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: On the Michael Berry Show, let's talk about rfk Junior Flamma. 155 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: He told the story a few days ago about his 156 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: uncle John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty three awarding the 157 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: highest civilian honor to Francis Kelsey but something happened, and 158 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: he's going to tell it. And if you remember the 159 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: drug deltimone, it's one of the worst debacles in American history. 160 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: It's not as bad as the COVID SHOT's going to 161 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: turn out to be. But babies were born with horrible, 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: horrible deformities. Horrible, But listen to the story. 163 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 15: My uncle awarded John F. Kennedy the highest civilian honor. 164 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 15: The Francis Kelsey. Francis Kelsey was a young scientist at 165 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 15: an i age who came in and objected to the 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 15: panel having approved solidamide for American children. All the sciences 167 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 15: that day, they were doing it in Europe, all the 168 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 15: sciencests of that day, and the scientific panels that worked 169 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 15: for the agency approved green lighted solidamide. 170 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 8: She stood up and screamed and thought and. 171 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 15: Risked her job and risked her reputation, and she blocked 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 15: it in our country. Three years later, everybody knew that 173 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 15: recognized that she was a hero and a savior of 174 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 15: our children because we were not getting the kind of terrible, 175 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 15: diabolical deformities as they were experiencing in Europe. My uncle 176 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 15: gave it the highest civilian honor because she questioned science 177 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 15: and was courageous enough to stand up and say, I 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 15: don't care what happens to me. 179 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 8: This cannot happened. 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: Francis Kelsey. That's important because so many people, so many 181 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: people won't speak out because it might cost me my job. 182 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: One might get criticized. When my wife said, I can't 183 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: speak out about what the school's doing to my kid 184 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: because they'll be hard on my kid, you've just given up. 185 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: You've just said that they're in charge, not you. When 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: you do that. Here is RFK Junior with John Stossel, 187 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: and he's asked the question if he would give his 188 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: children vaccines today, let's listen and discuss. 189 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 8: And you still say that autism is caused by vaccines. 190 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 15: Yeah, autism is caused by vaccines. And by the way, 191 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 15: CDC's own data, you know. And with that, they if 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 15: they did a study called the very straight in the 193 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 15: study in nineteen eighty nine, and they looked at the 194 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 15: Hepatitis BE vaccine. They looked at children and from the 195 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 15: biggest database in the world. The vaccine is hefty data length. 196 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 15: The children who got the happetititized B vaccine during their 197 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 15: first thirty days, and they compare those to kids who 198 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 15: got it later or didn't get it at all, and 199 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 15: there was a thirteen one hundred and fifty percent elevated 200 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 15: risk for autism among the people who got There. 201 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: May will be, but there are studies with millions of 202 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: people you wouldnore. 203 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 15: There is this look, but you have this wrong. There's 204 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 15: a series of about thirteen studies that were done by 205 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 15: people we called biostitutes there. One of them was the 206 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 15: leading one, who are people who do these studies for 207 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 15: money for CDC were paid for by CDC in order 208 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 15: to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism. The 209 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 15: chief scientists was a guy called Paul Thornson, who CDC 210 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 15: late and his study is the most cited study for 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 15: this proposition. And Paul Thornson is now a fugitive. He's 212 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 15: wanted by Inner poll. He stole millions of dollars from 213 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 15: CDC that he had claimed to use on this study. 214 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 15: But he was building houses, buying motorcycles, and living a 215 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 15: life of luxury. And his study is absolute fraud. And 216 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 15: yet it is they have not retracted it because CDC 217 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 15: is a dishonest organization. It continues to be cited in 218 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 15: the literature, and there by the way, John, there are 219 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 15: hundreds and hundreds of sizes. I've written a book if 220 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 15: you're interested, called I'm arisol Let The Science Speak that 221 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 15: has I think fourteen hundred references and at over four 222 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 15: hundred studies cited that link on autism and other related 223 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 15: neurological injuries to vaccines. There is no question about it 224 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 15: if you actually read the literature, if you listen to 225 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 15: what the propaganda that CDC tells you, Yeah, vaccines don't 226 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 15: cause autism because it's propaganda. This is a captive agency, 227 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 15: that is that is intertwined and owned by the pharmaceutical industry. 228 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: So why is it then that well, some of you 229 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: remember who listened to our show in Houston. Over the years, 230 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: I fought against the HPV human papalonavirus in Texas. My 231 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: friend was the governor and he was pushing for it 232 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: and I was pushing back. Well, there's a story. Economic 233 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: Times wrote a piece about it entitled controversial vaccine Studies. 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Why are Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation under fire from 235 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: critics in India? What they did to those girls in 236 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: India in two thousand and nine is legendary in India 237 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: in a very very bad way. Listen to this. 238 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 12: Welcome back what several Indian tribal girls used as guinea pigs. 239 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 12: The report allegends that two American farmer giants untested vaccine 240 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 12: was administered through thousands of tribal girls without proper study 241 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 12: and paperwork. 242 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 16: India was among the hardest hit after Bollywood celebrities were 243 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 16: incentivized by the Gates Foundation to urge the public to 244 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 16: cement to mass vaccinations. In two thousand and nine, tribal 245 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 16: children were administered at the hp TV vaccine well for 246 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 16: twenty four thousand. Girls were told they were being given 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 16: wellness shots, in many cases without the informed consent of 248 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 16: a parent or a guardian. 249 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 10: The people that were administering these vaccines lied to the 250 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 10: guardians of these girls and told the girls, Oh, this 251 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 10: is going to cure cancer. 252 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 8: You're never going to have cancer. 253 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 10: And these girls became severely injured, some of them developed caesars, 254 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 10: some of them developed cancer, and seven girls died and 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 10: there was no insurance, There was no assistance for them, 256 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 10: and the Gates Foundation denied that it had been clinical trials. 257 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 10: And it was so bad that the Parliament in India 258 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 10: created a task force. They studied it and they ticked 259 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 10: out the Gates Foundation. 260 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 7: What India is about Eric country? 261 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 17: Things happened you in the very barbaric me but I 262 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 17: was surprised to find an American organization operating in broad 263 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 17: day night doing things in a. 264 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 7: Very very let's say, Indian fashion. 265 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 17: And I took was that I want the whole procedio 266 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 17: to be investigated. The Indian Parliament formed a committee and 267 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 17: it was to be a rather surprising move because you 268 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 17: generally don't often have such a high level inquiry into 269 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 17: matters off theecting poor people. And that was such an 270 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 17: extraordinary report. I don't think Indian Parliament has ever come 271 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 17: up with such a scaling le. And the government's officials 272 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 17: came up and said, vision have authorized us, We're sorry, 273 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 17: we're not going to allow them again. 274 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 7: And now they're back doing the same. 275 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 15: Old Rest me or take me to Texas because I 276 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 15: haven't any to get out of this day. 277 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 18: I think Michael Barry Robe show, I don't. 278 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 17: Like to. 279 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: JD Vance delivered a wing danger in Europe. I mean 280 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: it was glorious, just glorious, and Americans were rightfully, incredibly proud. 281 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: One of my favorite people to comment on news of 282 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: the day is Victor David Hanson, and here he is 283 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: explaining exactly what JD. Vance's speech meant in the bigger picture. 284 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 19: Victor, why should Americans be concerned about what's going on 285 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 19: with free speech in Europe? 286 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 9: Well though they are a partner in Western civilization and 287 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 9: there are ally we have seventy thousand troops there, but 288 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 9: more importantly, we're losing Europe. 289 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 7: And JD. 290 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 9: Vance's speech wasn't just directed at the ministers, nor even 291 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 9: the magat crowd at home. It was really to the 292 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 9: silent majority in Europe. And what he was saying was 293 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 9: this elite has failed, and anytime you fail, that's when 294 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 9: you start to censor. They failed on the border, on 295 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 9: the economy, on energy, on immigration, on defense, and so 296 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 9: in their failure they tried to stifle all forms of 297 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 9: dissent and free expression. And he was trying to give 298 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 9: encouragement to all the people of Europe who know that 299 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 9: and want to rise up. And that's why they hate 300 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 9: him so much. You know, Miss Brennan didn't understand that. 301 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 9: When the Nazis came to power and they started to 302 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 9: outlaw free speech, one of the mechanisms they used was 303 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 9: to say it was the German equivalent of disinformation or 304 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 9: hate speech or misinformation. That's how it always happens. Usually, 305 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 9: censorship is a twin of failure. When you're failing, you 306 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 9: cannot stand the light of criticism. 307 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 19: And it's so remarkable to me that so many members 308 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 19: of the media don't understand the basics of what you 309 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 19: just said. Right there, listen to Brian Steltzer from CNN 310 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 19: talking about this. 311 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 20: It's not really about free speech. It's about speech that 312 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 20: is favored versus disfavored. In the case of the president, now, 313 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 20: it's kind of like old speak versus news speak. To 314 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 20: borrow Freeze from Georgia Walls nineteen eighty four, he wants 315 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 20: to do away with old speaking. He's trying to erase 316 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 20: certain language. He's trying to promote and favor other language. 317 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 19: Do you think he actually read nineteen eighty four? 318 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 17: No. 319 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 9: You know, the problem with all that rhetoric is they 320 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 9: never give a single example. Why don't they just tell 321 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 9: us this is exactly what Donald Trump did. He used 322 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 9: the government to do what case, point, time, location. 323 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: They never do. 324 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 9: It's just all blowhard megaphone and they can't and they 325 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 9: don't realize again that Joe Biden did more to harm 326 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 9: free speech than almost anybody, and he did it because 327 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 9: he had a failed agenda and people were speaking out 328 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 9: against it. And that's why the FBI began to partner 329 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 9: with Facebook. That's why fifty one intelligence authorities started to 330 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 9: lie on national TV to suppress dissent about the authenticity 331 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 9: of the laptop. That was the whole point about the 332 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 9: Russian collusion hoax. They wanted to suppress free speech because 333 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 9: their agenda was failing. And that's what's happening in Europe, 334 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 9: and they know that there's a populist nationalists blowback coming 335 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 9: and JD. Vance wants to assure people that we are 336 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 9: the friend of the real Europe, not the pseudo Europe, 337 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 9: not the pseudo elite that's hijacked the. 338 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: Continent the last twenty years. Ronald Reagan's media strategy was 339 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: to drop into what was known in the media as 340 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: flyover country. He would come to Houston, New Orleans, Montgomery, Alabama, Birmingham, Nashville. 341 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: He would go to places other than New York and 342 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: LA and DC and Chicago. And he said, I can't 343 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: trust the media to tell the story, so he went 344 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: directly two places to tell where the people are. That's 345 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: kind of what the JD Vance message was. And in 346 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: the meantime, listen to this. This is Polish Foreign Minister 347 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Radislaw Sikorski telling Trump, you know, we control the Nobel 348 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: Peace Prize. If you want to get the Nobel Peace 349 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: then you need to do you know, you need to 350 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: be fair with Ukraine and Russia. I don't think Trump's 351 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: waiting on the prize. Thank you, though. 352 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 20: What would you say to Donald Trump and Minister Kursk. 353 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 21: I would tell him three things. Number One, Joe Biden 354 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 21: was your successor and predecessor, but he planted the flag 355 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 21: of the United States in downtown Kiev and declared on 356 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 21: behalf of the United States that the US will be 357 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 21: with Ukraine for as long as it takes until Ukraine 358 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 21: secures its independence. Therefore, the credibility of the United States 359 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 21: depends on how this war ends, not just the Trump 360 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 21: administration the United States itself. I would secondly tell him 361 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 21: that if you allow Putin to vassalize Ukraine, that'll send 362 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 21: a message to China that you can recover what you 363 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 21: regard as a renegade pros and that would have direct 364 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 21: consequences for US. Grant strategy for the US system of 365 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 21: alliances and possibly for the future of Taiwan. 366 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 8: And I would thirdly tell him. 367 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 21: That we Europeans control the Nobel Peace Prize. If you 368 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 21: want to earn it, the piece has to be fair. 369 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: You silly oath Do you even realize that's the kind 370 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: of thing that Barack Obama cares about? Silly awards. I 371 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 2: can't tell you how many people I have known in 372 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: my life who've racked up every award. That's their big 373 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: thing is their resume building award winners. But don't ask 374 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: them to do anything because they don't do anything. They 375 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: just they build a resume, they win awards. That's the 376 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: reason associations have awards is to give them away. Meanwhile, 377 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's first press secretary in his first administration, Sean Spicer, 378 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: talking about the fact that the reason Trump's doing what 379 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: he's doing is Europe has been taking advantage of you 380 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: and me in America and that's going to stop. 381 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 22: Yeah, there's two separate issues that are happening, but on 382 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 22: parallel tracks. So when it comes to Ukraine, this is 383 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 22: where I think people are missing the where the ball 384 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 22: should be. Ultimately, we all want the war in Ukraine 385 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 22: to end. We want people to stop dying, property stop 386 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 22: being destroyed, money's being spent on needless killing. So everyone 387 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 22: gets their panties in a wad about the process. Oh, 388 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 22: who's involved at the end of the day, Zelenski said. 389 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 22: The other day he told Trump, guten fears you. He's 390 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 22: the only one they can kind of deal. You're the 391 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 22: only one of deal with them, And then everyone gets 392 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 22: offended that they go off to start to cut the deal. 393 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 22: Should Ukraine be involved at the end of the day, 394 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 22: of course they have to be. They can't not be 395 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 22: part of an ultimate solution. But for the US to 396 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 22: take the lead on this, considering the money that we're 397 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 22: spending in these stature that we have, who cares that 398 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 22: shouldn't be what the focus is. So I think you're 399 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 22: seeing this progress being made initially with Rubio and others 400 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 22: over there in Saudi. President will then eventually meet with 401 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 22: Putin at some point Zelenski's going to be involved in 402 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 22: the ultimate solution. 403 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 8: And then the. 404 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 22: Second piece is these you know that was led by 405 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 22: the JD Van speech in Munich on Friday, where everyone 406 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 22: got all offended by the language that JD used and 407 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 22: the assertiveness. 408 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 8: Look, the way I look at this is two friends. 409 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 22: At some point, if your friend keeps taking advantage of you, 410 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 22: you should. 411 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 8: Call it out because they're not much of a friend. 412 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 22: In Europe for a long time has taken advantage of 413 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 22: us financially, militarily, economically, and for us to finally call 414 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 22: them on the carpet and say, you, guys, we've been 415 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 22: your friend, we've had your back, and we've asked you 416 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 22: to make some commitments to your own neighborhood that you 417 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 22: failed to do is not rude. 418 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 8: That's how you actually act among friends. 419 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 22: So I actually think it's well timed that we call 420 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 22: them out for how they've treated the United States and 421 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 22: the support. 422 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 8: That we've given them. So I'm happy with where we're going. 423 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 22: I think that we could see some great things, and 424 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 22: people need to stay focused on what the ultimate prize is. 425 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 8: Number one, ending the war in Ukraine. 426 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 22: Number two is making sure that we have a stronger 427 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 22: and better relationship with Europe. Them being stronger, them contributing 428 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 22: to their national defense makes us better, it makes them better, 429 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 22: and it makes them feel safe. 430 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 10: Listening to the Michael Berry Show podcast, is Sexy Be Sexy? 431 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Any advance have a moment during this presidential election where 432 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: he was asked about school shootings and he said that 433 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: we have a mental health crisis in this country. We've 434 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: got real problems in this country. People do not naturally 435 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: pick up a gun, go to the school where they attend, 436 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: and start shooting people until eventually they take their own life. 437 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: Is it's so unnatural? Is it's such an aberration. It's 438 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: not been done throughout history? So what changed? What you're 439 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: going to hear here is a flashback to nineteen ninety 440 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: one and an FDA hearing, and the hearing is about 441 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: SSRIs as they're called. You may know what an SSRII 442 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: is if you have a teenager and doctors tried to 443 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: prescribe this. It's called a serotonin selective re uptake inhibitor. 444 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 2: And what they do is they increase the levels of 445 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: serotonin in the brain, which is a neurotransmitter that plays 446 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: a role in mood regulation. Now, I'm going to make 447 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: the crudest and perhaps least useful analogy, but I'm going 448 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: to make it anyway. Let's say you've got a friend 449 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: and y'all ended up out one night watching a football game, 450 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: and he got so drunk that he said some InCred 451 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: I believe, inappropriate things to a woman, maybe touched her inappropriately, 452 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: or maybe he wanted to fight a guy twice his size, 453 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: or maybe he wrapped his truck around a tree. He 454 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: wasn't himself at that moment. Now there's liability, because there 455 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: has to be don't let yourself get put into that situation. 456 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: Prepair ahead. But can we agree that at that moment 457 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: he was impaired and not his usual self. And many 458 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: times he'll wake up the next morning, you tell him 459 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: what he did, and you go he'll say, no, way, 460 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: yeah way, yeah, you did it, you did it well. 461 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people struggle to understand how 462 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: mood altering drugs like this can make someone an entirely 463 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: different person to take their own life, to see only 464 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: desperation and no way out, and leave some people with 465 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: the opinion that if I'm going to take my own life, 466 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the life of people that I 467 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: don't like. Also, there can be no doubt that we 468 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: have seen school shootings on a level that is unimaginable, 469 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: and you can't just say, well, it's the music. We've 470 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: always had music. Well, young people today, it's always been 471 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: young people today. That's always been the case. What if 472 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: what if we're prescribing drugs for kids that a rare 473 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: few of them react in such a manner that is 474 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: beyond the pale of what we can understand. So we 475 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: go back to nineteen ninety one, an FDA hearing, hearing 476 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 2: it the Food and Drug Administration, and these drugs had 477 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: just come out the SSRIs. They were being prescribed and 478 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: still are in epic levels to treat depression, anxiety, all 479 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: sorts of mental health conditions, and the FDA was deluged 480 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: with reports suicide, homicide, mass shootings caused by these quote antidepressants. 481 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to absolve anybody from liability. I'm saying, 482 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: just like you were lied to during COVID, just like 483 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 2: the health experts didn't serve you or Grandma during COVID. 484 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: This needs to be studied, and I feel confident that RFK, 485 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: who's talking about this, is determined to do so, and 486 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: big Pharma stands to lose a lot of money and 487 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: we stand to gain back our children, our school safety, 488 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: and our country. Now let me say before we play this, 489 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: I can't say this clearly enough. I'm not making excuses 490 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: for school shooters. I'm not and I'm not saying every 491 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: school shooter was under this influence or that was the reason. 492 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Big Pharma wants this to happen. 493 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: They wish it wouldn't because it's bad for business. I 494 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: am saying that the reports have come in for thirty 495 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: four years now, and it's time we take back the 496 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: health care of our children. It's time we stop putting 497 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: poison into our children's bodies and minds. And this hearing 498 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one should wake you up at least 499 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: enough to ask questions, what drugs are you giving your kids? Well, 500 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: doctor said he had to take it. Do you hunt 501 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: You know how many people were under a doctor's orders 502 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 2: and care when they shot up a school under the 503 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: influence of that drug. 504 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 23: The topic for today's Advisory Committee meeting is the possibility 505 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 23: of a causal linkage between the emergence and or intensification 506 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 23: of suicidal thoughts and acts, suicidality, that is, and or 507 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 23: other violent behaviors, and the use of antidepressant drugs. 508 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 24: I know with absolute certainty that if Charles had any 509 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 24: idea of the side effects of prozac, he would never 510 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 24: have taken it. This drug is most assuredly responsible for 511 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 24: any torment or suffering and the eventual suicide of my husband. 512 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 24: I want people to be aware of what can happen 513 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 24: when you take the drug Prozac. 514 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 6: I took the nine millimeters out of sat down on 515 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 6: the bed and put the gun to my head. I 516 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 6: wasn't clear on how to shoot the gun, so I 517 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: lowered it and pulled the trigger. It fired into the 518 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 6: bed as I went to hold it back up to 519 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 6: my head. The feather touch trigger had tripped after that 520 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 6: first shot, and I blew a four inch hole out 521 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 6: the back of my arm instead of my head. Prozac 522 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 6: did this to me. Had someone looked further into prozac, 523 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 6: believed me, even mentioned early on in the so called 524 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 6: remote possibility that prozac could cause any of these adverse effects, 525 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 6: especially the act of putting a loaded gun to my 526 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 6: head to want to die so violently, steps could have 527 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 6: been taken to avoid it. 528 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 8: Thank god I was a lousy shot. Oh this is 529 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 8: a real night. 530 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: May something I have to live with every day. 531 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 18: I had two sons, David Lee, age eight, Billy sixteen. 532 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 18: My wife twenty year is all gone. I'll tell you 533 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 18: why after being on a prozact for twenty one days, 534 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 18: my wife shot and killed both of these two boys 535 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 18: right here. She turned to go on to herself and 536 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 18: shot herself twice. 537 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 8: Now she's in. 538 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 18: Jail for myrtle. 539 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 25: One woman earlier spoke of nearly committing suicide in front 540 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 25: of her children. 541 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 10: My sister did commit suicide in front of Lindsay. 542 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 25: Another woman spoke of hollow point bullets. 543 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 8: That's what my sister used to do it. 544 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 13: My sister would have never never killed herself in front 545 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 13: of this little girl. 546 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 8: She would have never done that. 547 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 7: Prozac induced her to do that. 548 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 25: I'm against prozac because it killed my father. Unfortunately, with 549 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 25: my dad, we didn't have time to notice too many changes, 550 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 25: except that he became withdrawn and agitated, but by that 551 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 25: time it. 552 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 8: Was too late. 553 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 25: Got up at nine o'clock in the morning, took a 554 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 25: twelve inch butcher knife out of the kitchen drawer and 555 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 25: stabbed himself violently in the abdomen once, and then proceeded 556 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 25: to do it twice. 557 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: My father died when I was sixteen. I was date 558 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: raped when I was fourteen. I was date raped again 559 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: when I was eighteen. I obviously had a lot on 560 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: my mind, so they told me prozac was the quick fix. 561 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: I tried to kill myself twice. I was unsuccessful both times, 562 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: and I thank god I am alive today. I stand 563 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: before you because I want you to be aware of 564 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: what is going on in real live people. If one 565 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: of you will simply listen to what I have to 566 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: say and bring life or at least give somebody the 567 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: chance a future, unsuspecting victim the chance to have a life, 568 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: and I thank you, and I hope that you heard 569 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: what I said. 570 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 7: I was totally out of control. 571 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 26: My friends were gassed at my deteria writing mental stake, 572 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 26: but we're afraid to speak to me about it because 573 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 26: of my agitated state of mind during this time. It 574 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 26: is a miracle I did not harm myself. For others, 575 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 26: I had become a menace to society, and that FDA 576 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 26: is allowing this to happen. I want to know why 577 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 26: how many more people are going to be killed in 578 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 26: Maine Before you do something. You have the power to 579 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 26: change things. You have the power to listen to what 580 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 26: we say and investigate what we say. 581 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 23: I do not find from the evidence today that there 582 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 23: is credible evidence to support a conclusion that antidepressant drugs 583 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 23: cause the emergence and or the intensification of suicidality and 584 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 23: or other violent behaviors.