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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 2: October fifth. Got a great guest today, got a I

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Speaker 2: think a good Thursday night football game. I don't know

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Speaker 2: about you, guys, I'm kind of fired up for Washington Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds like just a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: yuck too well, one bad football team and another one

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Speaker 2: that does uh, we don't know what Washington is. They

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Speaker 2: look good in spurts and then they you know, they

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Speaker 2: got destroyed by Buffalo. Didn't look sharp against Arizona and

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Speaker 2: it should have lost that game. But they fought hard

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Speaker 2: against Philly. I think it's gonna be a spicy matchup.

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Speaker 2: We'll get my best bet shortly. Our guest is t

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Speaker 2: J Huschminzada. I work with him at FS one, been

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Speaker 2: doing TV, done some radio with him for I don't

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Speaker 2: know five six years. He's one of the good dudes

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Speaker 2: in the industry. As I've told you guys, a lot

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Speaker 2: former athletes often, you know, look at me and they're like,

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Speaker 2: who is this guy? You know, this guy didn't play

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. This guy didn't play no college football,

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Speaker 2: and I get the look of disdain, and only after

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Speaker 2: some of that's not everybody. I'm not gonna paint with

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Speaker 2: a broadbrush. But then you work with some of them,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you could prove you know what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about, and you can hang with anybody and you

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Speaker 2: can spar with the best of them, And then you

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Speaker 2: get to know him, and then you get to be

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Speaker 2: friendly with him. They're like, oh, this guy knows the stuff.

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Speaker 2: He's a pretty normal guy. And I've become friendly with Hushbinzada.

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Speaker 2: He has worked with One of the reasons I noticed.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hold, this guy works with NFL draft prospects.

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Speaker 2: And he told me I'm working with Zach Wilson. This

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Speaker 2: was leading up to the draft, and of course I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the Jets probably are gonna land on Zach because they

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Speaker 2: missed out on Lawrence. So he've been friendly ever since.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he worked with Poka Nakada. Sorry, Pooka Nakua,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry Pooka Nakua, or as some people like to

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Speaker 2: call him, Puka. Wait, how does it go, Pakuna Nakada.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, gosh, I'm totally butchering this the thing

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Speaker 2: from Lion King Hakuna Matata. It means no worries. That's

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Speaker 2: Lion King, isn't it. I think it is. Anyways, He's

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Speaker 2: got a great nickname, and Hush worked with him leading

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Speaker 2: up to the draft, as well as Michael Wilson, who

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Speaker 2: I'm sure some of you picked up in Fantasy this week,

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Speaker 2: the kid from Arizona. So I think you'll like Hushbinzata.

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Speaker 2: He does talk about the Bengals, but it's not glowingly

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Speaker 2: earmuffs it Bengals fans, just as a warning it's not great. Anyways.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to who'sh so bears Washington and

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Speaker 2: this line hit seven a couple times. I followed this

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Speaker 2: the last week, and this has been a bugaboo of

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Speaker 2: mine this season. I keep forgetting it's a week to

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Speaker 2: week league, you know, and forget throw out your offseason priors, Like,

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Speaker 2: let's be realistic. Teams are on a week to week basis.

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Speaker 2: Washington first week, Eh, didn't look good, did not cover

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Speaker 2: for me against Arizona. Then they come out fight like

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Speaker 2: the Dickens, come back hardcore and shock Denver with a

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Speaker 2: massive second half Week three, I knew to fade them.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is this fool's goal. They get

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Speaker 2: smashed by Buffalo. That was the game that I pegged,

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Speaker 2: you know. That was after Buffalo smashed the Raiders. Was

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Speaker 2: it was easy? Then it was the matchup with Philly,

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Speaker 2: divisional matchup. For whatever reason, Washington plays them hard and

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Speaker 2: they fought hard and could have won that game. Maybe

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Speaker 2: if Riverboat I'm sorry, Ron Rivera, can't call him riverboat

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Speaker 2: anymore if he goes for two and they lose in overtime.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was ta that had the great

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Speaker 2: the last twenty four games, three and twenty one against

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Speaker 2: the spread, right, So that's a significant number, three and

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Speaker 2: it's not like they're going on the road. Well, there's

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Speaker 2: are one in eight against the spread anyway you slice it.

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Speaker 2: Now you're facing a I don't know about a historically

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Speaker 2: zero to four Bears. They're bad. They're coming off a

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Speaker 2: devastating loss. The locker room has some issues, Chase Claypool

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Speaker 2: Field's wondering about his future. It's just not great for Chicago.

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Speaker 2: But I missed the seven. I did take Chicago plus

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Speaker 2: six and a little on Chicago money line just in case. Listen,

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Speaker 2: there is definitely a chance Sam Howell pops off and

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Speaker 2: it's twenty one to six in a heartbeat, and Washington's

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Speaker 2: in cruise control. Remember those three and twenty one numbers

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Speaker 2: ATS one in eight ATS. That's not predictive. That's what happened,

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Speaker 2: And everybody in their mind has a billion stats about

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Speaker 2: what happened and trends. You can't just blindly bet trends.

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Speaker 2: What is interesting is if you're Chicago and you fall

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Speaker 2: to zero to five, right, you lose this game in Washington,

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Speaker 2: and really should Washington be favored by five and a

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Speaker 2: but they only won one game. I just I don't

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Speaker 2: know how good Sam Howell is to be laying five

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Speaker 2: I got it at six. I don't know if there'll

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Speaker 2: can tell you this, I don't think any casual betters

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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, five hundred dollars, thousand.

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Speaker 2: I don't think those guys are putting money on the

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Speaker 2: many casual betters are. I consider myself a casual. I'm

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Speaker 2: not dropping ten thousand dollars, at least not yet this season. Oh,

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Speaker 2: in any games that's not in my wheelhouse, and especially

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Speaker 2: where listen, young coaches have had massive problems. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: I got the Bears a little on the money line

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Speaker 2: and with the points, and I'm I'm perfectly fine with

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Speaker 2: this team going down. It would not surprise me at all.

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Speaker 2: But I would not touch Washington in Survivor. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody's risky. Now everybody's gonna have Miami this week.

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Speaker 2: If you're left in your Survivor, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: just one of those weirds. I just don't think Washington

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Speaker 2: this game before. His signature game was is the defensive

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Speaker 2: down Mahomes and Andy Reid and picked up an amazing win. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Eric Bienemy was on that coaching staff. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: pretend like the enemy was running the show there, but

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Speaker 2: that was the Eberflus game in prime time where it's like,

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Speaker 2: holy cow, how did they beete the freaking Chiefs? And

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Speaker 2: now he's matched up against eric enemy, so he knows

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Speaker 2: the reed tendencies. Now he doesn't have the horses to

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Speaker 2: get the stops, but you know, knowing what's coming and

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Speaker 2: having your guys ready for battle, that's half the battle.

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Speaker 2: If Fields can play nearly as well as he did

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Speaker 2: against Denver, I think Chicago's live to win this one.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good game. I'm looking forward to it,

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Speaker 2: all right, Without further ado, let's get to our guest. TJ.

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Speaker 2: Who Schminzada, former Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know a guy, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He knows a guy who does. Let's just say I

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Speaker 2: know a guy who knows the guy who knows another guy,

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Speaker 2: Jason McIntyre. Here on straight with a great guest. You

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Speaker 2: guys know him. He's been on the pod before. Former

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Speaker 2: NFL wide receiver, Oregon State star, and he trains NFL prospects.

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Speaker 2: Wait till you hear who he's trained leading up to

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Speaker 2: this season. TJ. Huschman Zada, how you doing, hohosh?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well on my dress, right do I need

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. I mean, you're the man of

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Speaker 2: the hour right now. Whosh getting shouted out by Daniel

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Speaker 2: basically one of the best stories of the NFL season,

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Speaker 2: Puka Nakua of the La Rams, he caught like forty

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Speaker 2: five passes at BYU last year, came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: And guess who we trained with leading up to the season,

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Speaker 2: None other then DJ huschman Zada. I mean, Jesus, are

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Speaker 2: you taking all the credit for his greatness?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm taking none of the credit. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know DJ gave me a shout out. DJ my God.

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Speaker 1: We try to talk every year leading up to the

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Speaker 1: Senior ball and who do I like? Who does he like?

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Speaker 1: Can we just kind of we brainstrong been doing this

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. But no, man, Pooka is responsible for his success,

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Speaker 1: not I. Any trainer that tells you they're responsible for

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Speaker 1: a players success, that's corny to me. And so everything

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Speaker 1: that Pooka has done all him.

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Speaker 2: Are you kind of surprised that he's been so dominant.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we had heard that him and Stafford

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Speaker 1: Any Ricky that comes in and plays at this level,

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Speaker 1: the first round. Now, Justin Everson played well as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: first round picks, and so from Puoka this wasn't expected.

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Speaker 1: But if you know Pukah's backstory, Jason Puka was a

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Speaker 1: top high school recruit coming out He's a top recruit

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Speaker 1: of high school and so committed to USC. Obviously did

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Speaker 1: goes to the Senior Bowl and it's when me and

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Speaker 1: DJ really I was like, DJ, who you like? He said,

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Speaker 1: I like two receivers, Michael Wilson and Puoka. And I'm like, DJ,

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Speaker 1: I'm training both of them. He said, I should have

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Speaker 1: known they they're both unstoppable down here at the Senior

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Speaker 1: Right when I say it's not the players, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: or else.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're in Arizona.

425
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Speaker 1: Tell him this.

426
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Speaker 2: They're in Arizona this week. They're only three point favorites.

427
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Back in Cincinnati right now, is tough

428
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: given how bad they are, you think they pull this out?

429
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: Is this one of those get right games for them?

430
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Speaker 1: I'm backing them, Jason. Yeah. You know, like I said,

431
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm optimist. Now I will say this they you know,

432
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: I keep speaking in first person. I'll say we sometimes

433
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I'll say it's but they gotta win this game, and

434
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: they got to win this game impressively, not for us,

435
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: And they gotta win this impressively for themselves so that

436
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: they can feel like, Okay, here we go. You thought

437
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: they had that after the Rams game, and then you

438
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: go to Tennessee and land Egg. You have to get

439
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: some impressive victories so that mentally you start to feel

440
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: good about yourself because each week that passes, Joe's going

441
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: to be feeling better. If he doesn't have a setback,

442
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go those fifty fifty balls. You

443
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: gotta get Tea and Jamar and not ortunity to make

444
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: a play like they've done in years past and they

445
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: come down with it. They're just not giving those opportunities

446
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: so far this season. Joe's gonna have to let those

447
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: balls go and say, hey, my guys are gonna make

448
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: a play.

449
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: Let me ask you about Bears Thursday night football, Bears Washington.

450
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: Really on the surface, it appears like a crap game,

451
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: but you're talking about like Bengals need to win it impressively.

452
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, Matt Eberflus needs to win, just win

453
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: a game. I think he's lost fourteen straight, which is

454
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: kind of staggering. I mean, you can't lose fifteen games

455
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Speaker 2: in a row. So are you saying if he loses,

456
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: you think he's gone as.

457
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Speaker 1: Head coach win or lose, he gotta go.

458
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're out on him regardless. I just said,

459
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor went six twenty five and one in two years.

460
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: They gave him a chance and you know Burrow bailed

461
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: him out and he's fine. Don't we need to give

462
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: ibra Flus a chance with fields or has he had

463
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: enough time?

464
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Speaker 1: Are okay? I will say this, We did see progress

465
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: last week. We did see progress, although he should have

466
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: kicked the field though. We did see progress with Chicago.

467
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Now they do have something to go on in their favor.

468
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: This Thursday. The Commander's played an overtime game and you

469
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: got to turn around and play on Thursday night. Yeah,

470
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: that's not going to be easy because in that sense,

471
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you've played an extra quarter. So I'm certain Monday was

472
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: a really easy day. Yesterday was an easy day. Today

473
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: was a walkthrough. They probably didn't do much because they're

474
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Speaker 1: recovering physically from that game, and so if they're going

475
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: to win a game, it should be tomorrow or this Thursday.

476
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Because Washington is presented circumstances that, hey, I don't even

477
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: know how that would play o I don't know what

478
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: if that's ever been like document, like team plays an

479
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: overtime game that plays on.

480
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Speaker 2: Thursday, I figure I know you would.

481
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Speaker 1: I know you would.

482
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: So if you play the teams that have played on

483
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Thursday after playing an overtime game are three and twenty

484
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: one against the spread. Now you're saying, well, Washington's going.

485
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Home and spread? What about for a what just you know,

486
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: straight money line?

487
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't have straight up for you, unfortunately. But if so, well,

488
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: hold on TJ team's going home. You're thinking, okay, well

489
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: they're at least going home. They probably had of rest.

490
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: They're one in eight against the spread in those circumstances,

491
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: So either way, this is gonna be a tough one

492
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: for Washington.

493
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Speaker 1: I will say this, Jason. If Chicago continues to trend

494
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: in the right direction on offense, meaning justin fields can

495
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: play how he just played against Denver, then maybe eber

496
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: Flus can say, hey, we're making progress. But if it

497
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: stays how it's been prior to Denver, he gotta go.

498
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: Like you, it's no way that you can be this

499
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: anemic on offense. And you don't want to run justin

500
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: fields like I'm running justin fields just to save my job.

501
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Why aren't you guys doing what he does best? I

502
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: don't understand that. And then Chase Claypool situation is being

503
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: so mishandled, like stay home, like really, like I'm really

504
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: the problem, like we're losing games, and I say, I'm

505
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: not being used correctly, So now I got to stay home,

506
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: Like you not being coached, You're not coaching us correctly

507
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: as the owner telling you to stay home. And so

508
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't think these coaches understand when you do these

509
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: type of things like this is how you get talked

510
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: about in the locker room, Like Guarantee, the players are

511
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: talking about him in the locker room, like, Bro, you

512
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: ain't even coaching us, right, but you're gonna tell Chase

513
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: to stay home. This is the type of talk that

514
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: goes on in the locker room.

515
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: Now you know Claypool a little bit. You trained him.

516
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: He was in Pittsburgh and I thought thriving, and then

517
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: they shipped him out, which was odd. But maybe they

518
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: knew something about Claypool that the Bears didn't, and the

519
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Bears gave up like a second round pick, a high

520
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: second round pick. It was like the thirty fifth overall,

521
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: which he hasn't performed like a second round pick. Yeah,

522
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: what do you know about Claypool? I mean, he was

523
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: a stud at Notre Dame and it seems like I don't. Oh,

524
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: things are trending very poorly for him.

525
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: Tough situation, Jason, because you come off the rookie year

526
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: that he had and you feel here, emotions are here,

527
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: your confidence is here. Then you get traded and you

528
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: feel really good because you're like, Okay, I can be

529
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: the number one optionaire They just drafted a quarterback to

530
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: where me and him can grow together. Obviously things hadn't

531
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: panned out the way he would have liked. But he

532
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: also needs to be careful because you do not want

533
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: to establish this as being who you are reputation wise,

534
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: your reputation. Once they start talking about your personality, then

535
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: it can become a problem. And so I hope that

536
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: this gets figured out. May not be in Chicago, or

537
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: it may be in Chicago because once Ebra Fluce is

538
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: up out of here, which he will be, because I

539
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: just don't have the expectation that they can get it done.

540
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Maybe this new coach comes in and he gets an

541
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to make a first impression with this new staff

542
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: that makes come in.

543
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: So it's everybody's pegging. You know, open job in Chicago.

544
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Let's say it's open, Well, you got to get the

545
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: best offensive coordinator out there, and that's a lot of

546
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: people like Ben Johnson in Detroit. If the Bears get

547
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: the number one pick, they get Caleb Williams. If you're

548
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and you see just a bad franchise, like

549
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: the Bears. They went to one Super Bowl, like in

550
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: two thousand and six, maybe with Grossman, and then there

551
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: was the eighty five Bears. But other than that, they've

552
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: never developed quarterbacks. You know, I don't know, does Caleb

553
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Williams have a right to be like case, Chicago, don't

554
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: draft me, I'm not playing there?

555
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: Are you chasing? No plan intended? No plan intended? Because

556
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: you know this is the fight on but you you

557
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: gotta tell them not like Caleb Williams can't take take

558
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: this chance. This is his career on the line. And

559
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: so if Chicago is shown that they cannot develop a

560
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: quarterback like people thought Justin Fields was going to be

561
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: a good player. Yeah, and he showed promise, like why

562
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: would you chance? And they say, oh, I'm just so

563
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: much better than Justin I know I'm gonna get it done.

564
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: You can't chance that. If you can stay at USC

565
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: and make millions of dollars, why would you go.

566
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: Huh, stay at USC?

567
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: If you can see at USC, if he can stay

568
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: at USC and make millions of dollars. Why would you Now,

569
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it because that's a year longer that

570
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: you hit free agency and things of that nature. But

571
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: when you're making millions of dollars now because of the NIM,

572
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you're not going into a terrible situation. You're set up

573
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: to fail like you can't. You're set up for failure.

574
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, and can you do what's wrong without?

575
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: Now, this is the thing. Pull at Eli Manning. Just

576
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: make sure because you're in the media and I am

577
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: as well, let's just make sure the media doesn't bash

578
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the guy for doing what's best for him. Yeah, because

579
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: you know that's gonna come.

580
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, Elwi didn't make.

581
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Sure that doesn't happen to the young man because oh,

582
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: who does he think he is? He doesn't want to

583
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: play for the Bears and he hey, do what's best

584
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: for your career. If he feels to him and his

585
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: advisors feel like the Chicago Bears is in a good situation,

586
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: he may have to do what Eli Manning did with

587
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

588
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Speaker 2: John Elway did the same thing, forcing his way out

604
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: of I think it was the Colts and forced his

605
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: way to Denver. Yeah, and it's like, listen, I'm I'm

606
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: I hate the franchise tag. I think it's total garbage.

607
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm pro player. Obviously, I'm gonna side with the millionaires

608
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: over the billionaires, you know, like I'm rooting for these guys.

609
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I I think there's a world where

610
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: you could say, hey, listen, Caleb, we got we got

611
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: used the number one pick. We got the two pick

612
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: because Carolina stinks. So we can either take Marvin Harrison

613
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: at two or we could trade down from two and

614
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: somebody wants Drake may we get more picks. We go

615
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: grab Harrison, we get some offensive line. We gets it,

616
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: we got something, we got stuff to work with. And

617
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: then you know Ben Johnson, pretty creative guy. I don't.

618
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: My only thing is like.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, I do. Yeah. He lists to being Johnson

620
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: and you and you speak to him. Maybe the Bears

621
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: is viable. But the situation that they have now with

622
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: the head coach and the coordinat how it is now,

623
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: it has to be a no go for Kayler Williams

624
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: and his advisors group of people. It has to be

625
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: a no go.

626
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: Let me ask you actually about that. So you know

627
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: Jared Goff when the Rams traded him, right, they went

628
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl, lost to Patriots, and then the

629
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: next year, you know, Goff looked just pretty limited, like

630
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: he just can't do some things that the quarterback position

631
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: requires in mcveigh's system. So they trade him to Detroit

632
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: and it was almost as if like all right, well,

633
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: Goff has washed he's garbage. He's going to Detroit. He'll

634
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: just play out the string. They'll be terrible. And Ben

635
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: Johnson has kind of revitalized Goff's career. No, I mean,

636
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: I look at Golf and I'm like, this guy went

637
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: like ten games.

638
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: John He's done fantastic. But you we got to get

639
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's credit. Like, I'm not just gonna say it's

640
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: all Ben Johnson. Dan Campbell deserves a ton of the credit.

641
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: But Ben Johnson has been a revelation, Like he's done

642
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: extremely well with the team that was a laughing stock

643
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: and now they are not. So I give Dan compboy

644
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: a ton of credit. But Ben Johnson what he's done

645
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: because nobody knew who Ben Johnson was. He revived Jared Goff,

646
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: so to speak. That offense looks very, very good and

647
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: they play extremely well and competitive against everybody.

648
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, now Golf has a great offensive line and Johnson's

649
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: dialing up interesting plays. I kind of like him this

650
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: week big over Carolina, but it's a risky line.

651
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: Hey, Carolina's not looking too good man.

652
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where are you so do a do you

653
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: know Bryce Young at all? And b are you kind

654
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: of surprised at how how much he struggled because he

655
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: has Frank Reich, who's supposed to be a good offensive mind.

656
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Speaker 1: I know him very well, and I am surprised. I

657
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: am because here, oh my Bryce Seawan processes like that.

658
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: He's a computer and so to see the struggles, it's

659
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: surprising to me. But when you really look at it,

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00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: we're football guys, Jason, so we understand this. But who

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00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: does he have on the outside. Yeah, that when it's

662
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: man to man, I know when I go to.

663
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: Him, my guy gonna win, Adam feeling.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. So he doesn't have those guys,

665
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: and it's a it's gonna be tough for him. They're

666
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to trade for They don't have picks, so

667
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: they can have trade for receivers signed winning free agency.

668
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: When I say picks first rounders. But I'm very surprised

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Speaker 1: that Bryce uh hasn't performed better. The offensive line isn't

670
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: the best, but we can make a ton of excuses.

671
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, the Strouds offensive line, I mean he's down

672
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: to I think he's missing a center, two tackles like

673
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: they got a lot of in Strouds. Looking good now

674
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: he's got uh the guy at the passing game coordinator

675
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: from the Niners, Slowic I think is his name, and

676
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: he's they're calling some good stuff. I mean, Tank Dell's open,

677
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: guys are open. Nobody's getting open in Carolina scheme like nobody.

678
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: It's it's tough for him. And especially with Carolina, you're losing.

679
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: They know you're throwing it. They're not playing the run.

680
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: They coming straight after you, and so that element. I'm

681
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: surprised that Bryce hasn't performed better. But again, it is

682
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Ricky year. This is Ricky year. Lelis let him get

683
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: through this year. Let's see if they can get him

684
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: some more weapons and see what happens. Cam Burry a

685
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: guy after one year. But yeah, it is surprising, but

686
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm not too much work. I'm telling you Bryce's process

687
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: is so fast, man, that his brain is a computer.

688
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: They'll probably have to overpay for like a T. Higgins,

689
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: who I think is a free agent, and I don't

690
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: know if he's the best guy in the market, but

691
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: he's gonna be somebody good. All right, quickly, let's wrap

692
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: up with two games Jets Broncos. Just because I have

693
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: to ask about the Jets must win game. I know

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00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson looked okay, but TJ, it looked like the

695
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Chiefs did a lot of blitzing and leaving their cornerbacks

696
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: on islands. And we know Zach can make throws. He's

697
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: got a great arm. That's your guy, Zach Wilson, another

698
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: guy you trained. But it's the zone that gives them problems.

699
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: What do you know about Vance Joseph's defense other than

700
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: it sucks this year? But like, what do you know

701
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: zone versus man? I mean it's terrible, TJ.

702
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: Come on, hey, I mean there's always man concepts and

703
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the zone defenses anyway on the outside

704
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: unless you're playing cover two. But I look at it

705
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: this way if and I said this when I was

706
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: on a herd, what you guy, Jason, I'm serious. Zach

707
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Wilson needs to feed Garrett Wilson the ball. Like it

708
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, check down, Garrett Wilson checkdown. If they put

709
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: a safety over the top, then I'll go to the

710
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: other guy because then he must be one on one.

711
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Let's just make it simple for you, Zack. Get the

712
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: ball to Garrett Wilson. If you get the ball to

713
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, good things will happen and then other guys

714
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: will open up, Like I want to see Zach Wilson succeed.

715
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: I just I don't like the media that really just

716
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: bashes guys and makes it personal. I don't like that. Like,

717
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: if a god's playing bad, he's playing bad, but to

718
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: make it personal. But the way Vance Jose has been

719
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: calling defense, Zach gonna up. I mean because Kansas City

720
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: has a good defense now and he played well against

721
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: that defense and their defense is good and Denver is

722
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: the complete other end of the spectrum when we're talking

723
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: about good defenses, and so I like, I actually think

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00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: the Jets can win this game because that defense of

725
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: the Jets, they're gonna slow Denver down for sure. Yeah,

726
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: Ken Zach. If Zach doesn't turn the ball over, the

727
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: Jets win the game.

728
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: Well, if they lose, they're one and four and they

729
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: play the Eagles and they're gonna be big underdogs in

730
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: that one. All right, and final game. Niners Cowboys game

731
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: of the week most likely for supremacy in the NFC

732
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers have beat him twice in the last

733
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: two years. In the playoffs. It was Garoppolo once it

734
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: was perty the other time. I can't find an edge

735
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: for Dallas other than maybe their defensive line. But Tim

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00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Franz is awesome.

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00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like the forty nine ers here spreads three and

739
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: a half. I don't know if you're if you're a

740
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: gambling man on this one. I've already bet the Niners.

741
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: I think they're the side here.

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00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: I believe Dallas had the better defense. I do just

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: the total team speed that they have on defense because

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00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: the Deniners are not The Niners are very good on defense,

745
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: but they're not the same without Demiko Ryans that they're

746
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: better offensively this year though, and so their defense doesn't

747
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: have to be what it was in years past because

748
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Purdy is so good that they're scoring more points. You

749
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: got Auk, you got d Bo, you got kid O,

750
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: you got McCaffrey. I mean, how many teams can literally

751
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: have four guys that can go off and dominate a

752
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: game on offense side of the ball. And so when

753
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you go to overall team, yes, the Niners are better.

754
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: And they also have one of the most creative play

755
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: designers and play callers in their head coach Kyle Sheanahan.

756
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: And so you have to favor the Niners because of

757
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: everything that I just said. I do believe though that

758
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: Dallas defensively is very, very good. But you have to

759
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: be disciplined. When you played at San Francisco forty nine

760
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: ers offense, you gotta your keys, your odds got to

761
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: be in a right spot. If you become undisciplined playing

762
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: the Niners, it's a problem. And so I'm with you.

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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: I like the Niners the Cowboys. I mean, again, this

764
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: is the NFL. But the Cardinals get the Cowboys problems.

765
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: And you gotta think Jonathan Gannon. He comes from Philly,

766
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: he played the Eagles twice, coaching with the Eagles, played

767
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys twice. He kind of knew what gave him problems.

768
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: And they ran a lot of misdirection on the Cowboys

769
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: in that game. That's what the Niners do. They do

770
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: this every week, and so I believe that's gonna present

771
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: problems for a fast defense. Give them a lot of misdirection,

772
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: make them play discipline defense. I like the Niners as well.

773
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: Do you think this is just a theory of mine.

774
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of sports fancy. So Niners blast

775
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: the Giants a lot of running in the fourth quarter,

776
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: just basics vanilla stuff. Then they crush the car knows again,

777
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: a lot of basic, nothing exotic. It's almost like Shanahan

778
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: is saving the good plays for this game Dallas. By

779
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: the way, they these are the quarterbacks they faced. Okay,

780
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: they saw Daniel Jones in the opener, he is we

781
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: know he's not good. Then they beat Zach Wilson, okay,

782
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: his first start this season. Then in game three, Josh

783
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: Dobbs ran all over him. And then game four they

784
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: faced Mac Jones and the Patriots offense, so essentially three

785
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who are bottom tier in the league and then

786
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs.

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Whatever.

788
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: Is this going to be a bit of a shock

789
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: to the system And do you anticipate Shanahan dialing up

790
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: some really creative, juicy stuff. And do do coaches save

791
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: good plays like when you're in practice on Tuesday, Oh,

792
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: that's a that's a good one, coach, Hey, we're saving

793
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: that for the Cowboys. Do they do that?

794
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: Or Hey, so you're going today is Wednesday, right, so

795
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: today's the first day of practice or game plan. So

796
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: immediately when you got well, you know, I'm ancient, So

797
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: we had to go through the playbook. Now they're on

798
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: the iPad. So you go through the iPad and you

799
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: look and you're like, ooh, who is this play designed for?

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00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: That's what you look at the new plays because now

801
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: whether you run them or not, every week there's new

802
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: plays that are game planned in for the way they

803
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: play defense that team you're playing that week. And so

804
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 1: of course Shanahan is not going to show certain things

805
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: if you don't have to. But I don't believe they

806
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: look and say, we're gonna save this for the Cowboys

807
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: because we don't need it against this team. No coach

808
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: does that. If you need it, you need it. If

809
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't. They are going to make the

810
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys play a discipline brand of football on defense, and

811
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: when you're in an athletic defense like the Cowboys, dan

812
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Quinn does a really good job with its defensive lineman

813
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: up front. Now with Digs going down and Bland coming

814
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: in and getting them all the starter reps. Even though

815
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: he had a good year last year, it's can they

816
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: slow the Niners down? Like dude, I don't think people

817
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: realize how good Kyle Shanahan is calling plays. Like when

818
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: they traded, they look like they robbed the Panthers. For

819
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, the way he's playing, like look the way

820
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: he played last year when he went to the Niners,

821
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: and look at him early this season MVP Kennedy four

822
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns that they look like they robbed the Panthers. That's

823
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: because he's playing with Shanahan, and Shanahan knows how to

824
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: use them. Everybody that Shanahan gets, he uses them the

825
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: correct way. Not many coaches do it. We just talked

826
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: about the Bears and justin fields and so coaching matters,

827
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: and I believe Shanahan is gonna be the X factor

828
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: in this game, all right.

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Speaker 2: TJ Houshbinzada, Fox Sports Radio, former Bengals receiver, Thanks for

830
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, Jason, my pleasure anything for you, bro. Keep up

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: the great work, my guy,