1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Via Around the NFL Podcast has strong relationships with their mother's. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas and I am joined by 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: a room heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Hey Dan? What's up? What an absolutely 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: true money drop this time versus the false one they 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: issued on the last show? What was it the last 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't even remember, but it was ridiculous. This one 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: was right on the money. Well, this this sets you up. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: You You had said you wanted to take a couple 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: of minutes and talk about your mother to start the show, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: So go ahead. I did not. I did not because 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: she listens to this and I know if I say 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: something it will be twisted around by the three of 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: you into something that I'll have to explain in a 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: phone call. So I'm not going to touch it. She 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: has been a wonderful mother and continues to be well, 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Debbie Rosenthal wins a lot of 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: points um, not just for raising me, but she's definitely 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the only Rosenthal family member that ever listened to this podcast, 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: and she listens to it regularly. Has great opinions about 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: all of you guys. Loves you all my uh no, No, 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: no one in my family listens to my podcast. No 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: one in my direct family, nor my extended family, uh really, 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: nor any of my friends really, which is discerning, concerning. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I have some very close friends that listen to every show, 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: but for the most part, no one really even knows 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: about this podcast, and it feels hurt. Oh you mean 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: in your life sort of thing. Oh yeah, Okay. I 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: have a really close friend in Cincinnati, the best softball 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: player I've ever played with, and he's really upset because 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I've never mentioned his name on the podcast, and I 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: told him I never will if he keeps complaining. So 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I'll just say he's the best softball player I've ever 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: played with, but I'm not mentioning. It sounds like a 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: healthy friendship you have. You're referring to Tony Garcia, but 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: he's not since the best short stuff I've played. Okay, Okay, alright, guys. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: By the way, good mom talk. Congratulations again to Mark Sessler, 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: who sitting with us now with his new MacBook. Let's 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: go inside Mark's head and his journey home, skipping through 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the streets of Los Angeles, popping over street lights collecting 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: gold coins. Yeah, it's an anime character in human form. 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: It's been a long journey, you know, another continuing three 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: and the three of you have these up to date, 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: beautiful computers dating back to nine, you know, two thousand 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: and eight or something. And I've been operating on an 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: Apple too, and I'm finally up to snuff. And he's 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: actually not an Apple. It was ah, some low level 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: piece of some big warehouse somewhere because he refused to 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: get a Mac when I suggested you get a Mac 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: last time. I mean, let the record show that's your narrative. 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Let the record show the Mark said I don't want 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to Mac. Yeah, that's your narrative. Okay, that that was 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: the true story. But we heard about it for two 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: straight years. But now you you have a Mac as well, 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: and if anything, we can now start complaining that you 57 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: have the newest Absolutely I would complete the I think 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: it's acceptable now that the cycle of complaints goes to 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: whoever as the oldest machine. Greg is on his third 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Mac because he's spilled coffee on multiple laptops at this point. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: But the two of you have a ripe case. I 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: just got a new one. The week before you did. 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, it's your turn to complain. I'm happy 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: with mine. What is your next slide? Now? What are 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: we moving on to? Oh, I've got a lot of them. 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: The season is young. The next slide is connected to 67 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Greg's new nickname, fly Boy. We don't need to get 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: into that right now. I'm a fly boy as well. Well, yeah, 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: but you have a nickname. Um. All right, this is 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. A 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: really fun show tonight, guys. A lot to get to 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: today because, uh, not only our camps rolling now we're 73 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: in double digit days. We got preseason games beginning uh 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: and the next day. Uh. That is, of course, you know, 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: unless they're canceled due to some active malice by a 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: equipment or groundskeeper, either intentional or otherwise. We will have 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of organized football games in the NFL played 78 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday in this week this weekend, so uh, a 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: lot to talk about as we work towards that. We 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: will also begin our division by division previews. Oh yeah, 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: I get excited. And we're gonna start on the East 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Coast in the National Football Conference. Yes, the NFCC East, 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: NFC East. So we'll break down that division and we'll 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: go through all the divisions over the next couple of weeks. Uh, 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: we got that, and we also have Oh yeah, it 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: started Tuesday night Premium Cable our Hard Knocks Report Episode one. 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Did we all see the episode? Yes? I did. I 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into a beef with it. Well, 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: I have HBO. Now you can't watch it till seven 90 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: a m. My shift at work begins at six thirty. So, 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: so you were you were in a tough spot. I 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: will see. I will literally not say a single word 93 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: the entire segment. Well, you could chime in if you 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: feel pertinent information would be educational. Haven't seen a second 95 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: of it? You read Dan's recaps. I have not done 96 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: that either. We'll do that later. Okay, all right, well 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about The Hard Knocks Report Episode one, 98 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: but before we do any of that, we will check 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: behind the glass. There he is, come here, the great irishman, 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: Brandon mcguess. What's up, buddy? Not that much? You know. 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: I was watching the Red Sox Yankees game last night 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: and the Fenway crowd cheered, we want a rod, And 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, have you guys ever seen a crowd to 104 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: do something that you never thought that they would do, 105 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: because I never thought Fenway would actually want to see 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: a Rod. But it was done in a sarcastic we're 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: mocking you because your career is ending in a pitiful way. 108 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: That credit because you also I think they actually wanted 109 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to se him. Well they of course they did want 110 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: to see him. They would only they would only do this. 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: So you're gonna tell me, you know, the Fenwick They're 112 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: only got to do this in a way that they 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: feel comfortable that they're winning the game. And he's basically 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: a laughing stock even in his own organization. Your fans 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: are softies. Despite the reputation. You guys cheered Roger Clemens 116 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: off the mountain his last start of Felway. I mean 117 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: that you were going it was going to be a 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: bit of a one of the greatest pictures of all 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: and they and they boot him for like five years 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: after that time heals all wounds. Well, I'm just saying 121 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: they were still chanting we want a Rod in the 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: top of the ninth when it was a close game. 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: That would have been fun. I I don't know if 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: I would ever forgive Joe Girardi for not giving a 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: rod a shot there. But um so Bengals fans throw 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: beer cans into the cart that was carting Ben Roethlisberger 127 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: off the field. Didn't expect to see that. I saw 128 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: Red Sox fans throw fake dollar bills that Jack Clark 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: who had just declared bankruptcy and he's on their team. 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise. It's pretty good. Back during the drive 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: they were the Browns Dog Pound was throwing batteries at 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: John Elway, which when I was in sixth grade, I thought, okay, 133 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: but where did you get batteries? Like you're pulling batteries 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: out of it? Are you like the old man in 135 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: the stands listening to the game on AM radio while 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: it's happened and batteries? I guess it's expensive. I remember 137 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: in my in my house growing up, we had a 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: basket of batteries and like twelve percent of the batteries worked. 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: They weren't thrown out, so you would bring them from luxury. Well, 140 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they were all operations. It doesn't sound 141 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: like luxury. It sounds like just you know service. Listen 142 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: in the cold town. You keep everything, you don't throw 143 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: it out. It must be nice to have batteries. Wait, 144 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: what what's going on in your house? All right? Let's 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: that's what you have to love about Tim Tebow. And 146 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that's what the world loves about him. He's 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: a fighter. We didn't even have that in the news, 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: by the way, but Tim Tebow, or did we talk 149 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: about that on Monday? We did not know. Tim Tebow 150 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: is trying to become a base ball player now. He 151 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: he hasn't got enough coverage, so yea. And he is 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: going to host a try out at the end of 153 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the month. He hasn't played any form of professional baseball 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and since two thousand five. Good luck to Tim. Let's 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: focus on one of his former teams, in the Philadelphia Eagles, 156 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: who could lose and most likely will lose one of 157 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: their top offensive linemen for the entire twenty sixteen season. 158 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson facing a ten game band for violating the 159 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: league's policy on performance Enhancing Drugs um. Johnson was previously 160 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: suspended four games for a p D violation back in 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: uh Johnson is appealing, according to rap Sheet, but right 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: now the Eagles are in a situation, Greg Rosenthal where 163 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: they will maybe have to start Dennis Kelly that's not good. 164 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 1: Who sounds like a character from NYPD Blue. What's the 165 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: problem for them early last year or rookie? And I 166 00:08:53,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: will get this name correct more than something like that. 167 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: Here you try, I just did. When is that? It? 168 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Is that the correctation? So how you sounded out? This 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: is a team I was, you know, as an Eagles optimist. 170 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: And we'll get to the NFC East later. But a 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: little spoiler at their alert there. I I was thinking 172 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line is going to carry this offense. That 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: maybe the offensive line is good enough and has enough 174 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: continuity and talent that they can make up for some 175 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: major questions at the skill positions. And this is a 176 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: major problem. Um. One of the smart guys covering the team, 177 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kemski, writes for The Fully Fully Voice, he thought 178 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's the fourth most valuable player on the Eagles. 179 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Now that that's that's that's a hot take, But that 180 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: just shows the kind of respect and importance he has, 181 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: partly because he doesn't have anyone to replace him. His 182 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: contract says he's one of the most table guys on 183 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: the on the Eagles, And I know we point out 184 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: usually when the suspensions come down that the team knows 185 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: about it ahead of time. This one seemed to catch 186 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles off guard. It also has also not official. 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Let's point he's facing sure, I mean as a direct 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: impact on the quarterback position, because if you're Doug Peterson, 189 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: you've got Sam Bradford going into the season, but losing. 190 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: If you lose another offensive lineman, that can lead to 191 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: total collapse your offense or quarterback injury and force. You know, 192 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz onto the scene earlier, or maybe it prevents 193 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: them from using Carson Wentz if the line is in shambles, 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: So it's you know, it impacts his rookie season well. Plus, 195 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Bradford looked good last preseason. He looks good in training camp, 196 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: looks like the best Eagles quarterback, very accurate. This is 197 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: when the live pass rush is not coming at him. 198 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's a fair criticism of 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: how Bradford's been weak throughout his career is is he 200 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: doesn't really hand up well to bad protection. Meanwhile, on 201 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: the throne of sleeves, storm clouds rolling in, But it 202 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: could have been worse. Defensive Van rob Nikovich tourist triceps 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: in Tuesday's scrimmage versus The Saints rap Sheet reported, Uh, 204 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: the muscle is a tear is torn, not the tendon, 205 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: which is important because if it was attending, you're probably 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: losing them for the year. But the muscle means he 207 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: can rehab the injury rather than undergo surgery, and there's 208 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: a hope that he can return in October. And West, 209 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: you wrote up this piece on Around the NFL and 210 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: you pointed out how sneaky productive Rob Nikovich is on 211 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: that patch off defense. Yeah, our research department sent out 212 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: an email saying that since two thousand ten, the only 213 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: three players with at least forty sacks and three D 214 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: fifty tackles. The only three defensive ends I believe are J. J. Watt, 215 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Clais Campbell, and Rob Ninkovich. So that's rare company. And 216 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Gregg made the point on Twitter. I remember that Bill 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Belichick tells you what he thinks about a player by 218 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: by the snap count. And he played more than anyone 219 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: in their defensive front seven last year, not only last year, 220 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: I think for the last five years he plays more 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: than Chandler Jones, than Jamie Collins, than anyone. And you 222 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: don't see defensive ends or outside linebackers whatever want to 223 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: call him depending on the down, playing every single down 224 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: anymore in the NFL, you just don't see it. I mean, 225 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: there was one year he played of the snaps. It's 226 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: just insane. It's shocking that a Patriots player, when these 227 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: players are outside of Rob Gronkowski, not allowed to interact 228 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: with human life outside of the Patriots complex, would be 229 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: under the radar. Well, he's not a flashy player. I 230 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: mean he's not. He's not that he's not gonna make 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: the highlight reel like like Jamie Collins will, for instance. 232 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: So what is it Shane McClellan and what Chris Long 233 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: need to Seymour snaps at this point? Geneo Grissom, Trey Flowers, 234 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks from last year, but I 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: really like Chris Long's potential to bounce plot. Flowers was 236 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: good in the preseason last year. They like him. They 237 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: are somewhat deep at that position. Jabal Sheared certainly, uh 238 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: is a starter and played outstanding last year, but they're 239 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: gonna get him back. It must be nice on the 240 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: throat of ease. By the way, Greg, you know a 241 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: lesser blessed franchise. Julian Edelman gets carted off Nikovich, his 242 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: arm blows up and it's like, oh, you're both gone 243 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: for the season. Seeing Pats is like, ah, he'll miss 244 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: about a week and a half, two weeks, he'll be 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: back better than ever. Cannot carry some water here, Garrett, 246 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: go up that hill. Well, I mean the Patriots were 247 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: hurt by injuries as much as any contender down the stretch. 248 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Last year. Offensive line was in tatters for that Broncos game. Well, 249 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: you're ruining. What Dan is trying to say is I 250 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: was excited that this team I've been hoping it's kind 251 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: of lose, got you know, some injuries. But now that's 252 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: what you talk like, those old line injuries got that 253 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: old line was admired by the way. Okay, that's different. 254 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: What about when this is stupid? But what about when 255 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: gronks knee twirled like Willis mcgahey at the Orange Bowl 256 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, most careers are over 257 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: at Gronk. He'll be back maybe ten days max, that's fair. 258 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: It'll be better than ever. We thought he was done, 259 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: we thought his career was in min and he all 260 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, his knee exploded a couple of years before that. 261 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: But don't get in the way of my narratives. Moving on, 262 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about the New York Giants. West, another team 263 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: will get too later and your favorite player, Victor Cruz, 264 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: and uh you know to to West's credit, he West 265 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: is saying, don't treat this guy with any respect. He's 266 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: no longer a football player. He's a guy that got 267 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: hurt and it never got better. But the rest of 268 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: the football world remembers Victor Cruz and the wrongs of 269 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: our taking some liberties with my stance on Victor. Let 270 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: me let me start this over. Can I one sentence summation? Okay, 271 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: let me start over first and just get the news 272 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: out to you. Victor Cruz may miss the preseason opener 273 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: with an injured growing the same Victor Cruz who missed 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: all of last year with the multitude of issues. Uh, West, 275 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: you have not taken him seriously as a productive type 276 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: player because he keeps getting hurt and his get has 277 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: been out of the game for so long your thoughts 278 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: about this? This is much less about Victor Cruz the 279 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: player and much more about the coverage of Victor Cruz 280 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: the player when he plays a down of football in 281 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Again, it will finally be news. But he 282 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: is being counted on to have a significant role for 283 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: not then why did they pay him two point four 284 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed? Why do they have no depth at 285 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: that position at all? This is a team that he 286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: needs to be, you know, scoring the ball. They're gonna 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: play up tempo Sterling Shepherds, but they have three receivers 288 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: on the field at all times. You need three starting receivers. 289 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: He's the third one. Well, after hearing Connor Oar's report 290 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: from Giants Camp, I wouldn't expect to see Victor Cruz 291 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: is the third receiver. I but Greg is right. If 292 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: you look at their depth chart, there's a bunch of guys. 293 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Dyne Dwayne Harris is probably the next up and Connor 294 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Or to your point West, he was at practice. He 295 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: didn't think Cruz had his explosiveness back, and that that 296 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: seems to be the consensus at practice. From what I understand, 297 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Sterling sharp, Sterling Shepherd is gonna be crossed between Odell 298 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: Beckham and Antonio Brown. So what are we worried about? 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I find it weird that you've been so you've been 300 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: so disturbed by Sterling Shepherd. The giants. I gotta I 301 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: got a bad feeling. Do I like him or I 302 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: don't like him? I always takes up for the um 303 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: you like covering them the hype Train for something. Something 304 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: just feels off, like there's a loose screw like in 305 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the train's wheel and nobody else sees it but me. 306 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of like that Twilight Zone or the guys 307 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: on the plane and the monsters on the wing were well, 308 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: you're what are you basing it on? Just Asessler? Yeah, 309 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: you know what, he had this about Reggie Bush. He's 310 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: had it about other players. Maybe this is your zone 311 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: of you've got good intuition on when the hype train 312 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: is about to go right off a cliff into absolute 313 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: trees and wreckage. Also, Jez Briant's career is over, well 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: just be aware about that too. Oh yeah, Tom Brady 315 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady's career was over before two thousand fourteen. 316 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is going to go, Yeah, a terrible year 317 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: that you you have like a plus or minus three 318 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: season window on these productions, and that's fine. Now this 319 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: the Brady one, Let's just wait and see how it 320 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: plays out, because it's going to be a slight decline 321 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: in production across the board. Just wait and see. There's 322 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: nothing you could say or I can say, it's just 323 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: my prediction. Well that to see what happens. That's not 324 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: that's not crazy, that's not bold year old decline. If 325 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: every time Dan attempts to make a prediction, Greg jumps 326 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: right on that knives and starts slicing it into parts, 327 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: He's just a football analysts making a prediction. Allow it 328 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: to happen. No, that's the problem he is, like. Greg's like, 329 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm a football analyst, you're just a schmo. I will 330 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: jump on your point and dismantle it. And then but 331 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: here's the thing, I'm not scared of you. I was 332 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna say. It's it's more of a let's go. It's 333 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: more of a respect's go, fly boy. It's more of 334 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: a respect for both of you that you won't, you know, 335 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: act like a little child when someone argues with you, 336 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: that you'll come back and you'll try to both of 337 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: us what you mean both of us? Because then who 338 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: are you not? You're not including because West is higher 339 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: up on your list there, so it's oh, it's to 340 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: both of you Dan and Mark, who I don't really 341 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: take seriously that I want them to behave a certain way. 342 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: When I get contrary and jump down your throat when 343 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: West West is West is already up on the up 344 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: on the mountaintop. Dan and Mark, if they are to 345 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: say something football, why, I don't know, Brain of salt time. 346 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: That's because I know I know U. After the Eli 347 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: Manning debate, both of them show Wes and Gregg spit 348 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: on me before they left the ste unbelievable. I know 349 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: Wes has gotta come back at me because he's confident 350 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: that's what I want. You can't control us in our 351 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: personalities exactly. We just sorry, we don't respond to you 352 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: the way you want. What are we talking about, I 353 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know. Years of frustration from our puppet master. Wait 354 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: a minute, it's again. It was both of us. I 355 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: am sticking up for Dan and for myself as you 356 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: are asking us to do. Let's pull out of this 357 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: career called to sack guys. But move on to Jimmy Graham, 358 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks tight end. Who you know you want 359 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: to talk about serious kne injuries. The exact injury, in fact, 360 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: was that Victor Cruz suffered and um sent his career 361 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: off the tracks. Jimmy Graham is attempting to come back 362 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: from this. Last year, uh Cruz was unable to do 363 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: it as lower leg injuries robbed him of a full season. 364 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: Graham returned to practice, came off um the populist and 365 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: is right at the edge of getting back. Coach Pete 366 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Carrol said Tuesday, the Graham was quote right at the 367 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: edge of getting back on the practice field. So Graham 368 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: making progress. Mark Sessler, Um, do you expect Jimmy Graham 369 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: to make an impact this year? This is a very 370 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: difficult injury to come back from because that it robs 371 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: players of their explosiveness. I mean, it all boils down 372 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: to it's been the case with him for years. How 373 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: healthy is he? But he's played through injury before. I mean, 374 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: they traded for a guy, hopefully with the plans to 375 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: make him a huge part of their offense, and there 376 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: were games last season where it wasn't like they really 377 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: seemed like they needed Jimmy Graham with the way they're 378 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: passing offense bloomed. I guess the question I'd have is 379 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: would you still make the Maxunger trade for him today? 380 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: What's the Maxunger up to? Well? He has a torn 381 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: matell attendance. All right, right, I'm just saying like, in 382 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: terms of the overall what they were looking to do, 383 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's been a successful trade at 384 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: this point in their offensive line needs help. I don't know. 385 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: It was kind of like a this is our last 386 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: final player to put us over and win another Super Bowl, 387 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: and it did not play out that way. Greg and 388 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: I were talking about this this morning. You were a 389 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: little surprised that the fantasy guys were saying they wouldn't 390 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: touch Jimmy Graham this year, that they wouldn't even draft him. 391 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: To me, seems like the ceiling or that if you 392 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: did it be as a late, late backup. Seems to 393 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: me the ceiling would be higher. But you made the 394 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: point about torn Patel attendants, and and that's right. I 395 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: have researched this several times. I can't find a single 396 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: NFL player who has successfully returned to pre injury status 397 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: after a torn Patel attendant. The most recent ones over 398 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: the past decade, the best players have been Cadillac Williams, 399 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Williams, and Victor Cruz. And all of those players 400 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Cadillac touris Patel attendant in the next in the other 401 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: kneed the next year. Victor Cruz has come out and 402 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: said the reason he got his calf injury last year 403 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: was overcompensating for the other leg. And Ryan Williams was, 404 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, ravaged by injuries after he tore his I 405 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: just think it's a long road back and you have 406 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: to set expectations pretty low. Moving on, It's time to 407 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: do some odds and ends, odds in ends, odds in ends. 408 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: It's time for awesome depth chop odds and oh yeah, 409 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: I forgot us long long. A little shaky there, a 410 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: little shaky on the odds and ends. But this is 411 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: the NFL depth charts addition, and we'll start at quarterback 412 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: position where the Broncos and forty Niners will both go 413 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: with co number one QBS on the depth chart. Chris Westling, 414 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: what do you see in there? I think what caught 415 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: my eyes when a veteran beat reporter like Mike Cliss, 416 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: whom Mark and I shared a beer with in an 417 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis bar one uh, he came out and basically said, 418 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon is leading competition, and I think it's time 419 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: to take him seriously. Well and the coaches. Maybe it 420 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: wasn't when the coaches all offseason saying how much they 421 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: like him and trust him and want to develop him, 422 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: and what you're the option Mark Sanchez until the Paxton 423 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: Lynch is ready. Who keeps making mistakes? And if you 424 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: think back to the Broncos last year, I think all 425 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Kobeak may want out of this quarterback is to make 426 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: the fewest game breaking mistakes possible. And that's Simeon's reputation 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: to a fault is that he's a conservative, check down 428 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: type of quarterback that won't kill you. And Mark Sanchez 429 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: is not that guy. Uh. And other news, Lakwan Treadwill 430 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: in the first round wide receiver of the Minnesota Vikings. Uh. 431 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: There are reports out there that he is not going 432 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: to immediately take on a big role in the offense. 433 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: In fact, Treadwill is listed behind Charles Johnson on the 434 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Vikings initial depth chart. Uh. Mark Sessler, I know you're 435 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: a huge Charles Johnson fan. You carry that water up 436 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: and down the hill for Chaz Johnson. Gotta be excited. Well, 437 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: that said, I'm not buying this because you know there's 438 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: nor of Turner has already talked about implementing specific you know, 439 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: skinny post routes, the old Michael Irvan Bang eight route 440 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: just for Treadwell, who essentially is a Michael Irvin esque 441 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: frame and height and weight. I was receivers, you, I 442 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: guess you don't know first year how they're gonna grow 443 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: immediately and and fit into the offense. I think by 444 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, October, this will be a non story. If 445 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: not sooner, well, I think the real story here is 446 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: is Stefon Diggs, who has moved from the X spot 447 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: to the Z spot, which is much more fitting for 448 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: his frame and playing style. And it would surprise me 449 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: if he's not their best receiver this year. Yeah, the 450 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: reports in Minnesota is that he's taken a big step 451 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: and Treadwell if he was on the bench at the 452 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, it would be in Mike Zimmer. 453 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: Zimmer's m O. I mean, he hasn't played trade Waynes yet. 454 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: He still might not be playing trade Waynes, who got 455 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: drafted even higher than tread Well, wouldn't It wouldn't surprise 456 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: me if they keep Treadwell on the bench, and you 457 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: think about it, Zimmer came out of the Bengals program. 458 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Also doesn't rush rookies on the field. So and finally, Uh, 459 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a deep sleeper in your fantasy leagues, 460 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: how about fifth round wide receiver Taj Sharp of the 461 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, who has quote established himself as one of 462 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: the better route runners on the team according to Titans 463 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: online dot Com. Uh. You know, with a young, dynamic quarterback, 464 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: that guy needs to find his favorites. Is a possible 465 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: west that Sharp could be a difference maker this year. Well, 466 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I don't know about difference maker. He could be a starter. 467 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's talented enough as a rookie 468 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: to be a difference maker. But when I hear he's 469 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: the best route runner on the team, it says a 470 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: lot more about the other wide receivers on the team. 471 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: You mask, Greg, I love that fifth round. I mean 472 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: it says something. They're kid. They're dogging Dorio Green Beckham, 473 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: who's still getting taken in fantasy drafts pretty high. Uh. There, 474 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: you know Mike Malarkey's dogging him. He might be fourth 475 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: on the depth chart. I mean, you're shaking your hat. 476 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a talented guy, but they have the 477 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: types of receivers they want he's not that type right now, 478 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: and so he's not playing, and it looks like it's 479 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: gonna be Richard Matthews and Sharp and Kendall writes in 480 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: right now, they're not thrilled taking in my head because 481 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: of the tweet you had the other day. If you 482 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: don't think Mike mlarkey is capable of bearing Dorial Green 483 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: Beckham behind Harry Douglass, you don't know Mike mclarkey and 484 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: Harry Douglass doesn't belong on this roster. Well, how about 485 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: one of their they keep drafting receivers in the upper rounds, 486 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: how about one of them is developed by one of 487 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: the went on these coaching staffs. I mean, this is ridiculous. 488 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: It's year after year these under performing Titans receivers. Compare 489 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: that to what the Steelers do the opposite. Um, I 490 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: think it was umss Amherst maybe U mess Lowell, uh 491 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: County Crows two thousand two hard Candy tour. So with 492 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: the college girlfriend, very emotional night, that's I think we 493 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: should from the NFL's account, tweet that line and see 494 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: if that gets back to the hands as household. If 495 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: that your wife spiles back on Emily's birthday. Yes, and 496 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: by the way, thank you for the advice. I got 497 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: a babysitter for tonight. I'm gonna take my wife seven 498 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: months pregnant, get her out of the house. Well, because 499 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: wives say I don't oh no, no, no, don't fuss 500 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: over me. Well, if you don't fuss over them, you're 501 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna hear about it better and move more. Very true. 502 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: And and just because um market, that was such a 503 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: great point by you, I'm gonna let you choose which 504 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: of the members of this podcast will sing the odds 505 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: and in outro, uh westwill alright? Oh no, let it rip. 506 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm on record as admitting I am the worst singer 507 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: and dancing. That was delightful. What did the music teacher 508 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: say to you again? It's the maybe stay after class 509 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: and put my ear on the piano. Oh my god, 510 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: because you didn't have any I'm tone deaf, I have 511 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: no rhythm. Girls are always trying to get me to 512 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: dance with him when I'm when I'm dating them, and like, 513 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: there's no, it's not gonna happen. I remember I had 514 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: a barbecue not too long ago where before West met 515 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: his current uh paramore, not Mary Kay Cabot a different one. Uh, 516 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: this woman was trying to get West to dance, and 517 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: it got legitimately uncomfortable for the rest of us because 518 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: West was stonewall and I'd be like, no, I'm not 519 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: gonna dance, can't dance, not gonna do it. Which is 520 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: your right to say that? That was one of like 521 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: a handful of things she wanted to change about me, Right, 522 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: I can't change West. I think I actually your belief 523 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: in a higher power. That's that. It seems like a 524 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: big thing to ask on the second date. Rights that then, Uh, 525 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: I should stop eating pork and meat or anything like that, 526 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: as I'm smoking ribs for the group. And now this 527 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: is just petty and I don't want to be mean, 528 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: but I found that that woman's hair in my house 529 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: for a week. Road No, no, no, no, I don't 530 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: need to go down that road weeks. She was a 531 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: delightful party guest. She's a very nice girl. Hopefully not 532 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: a listener of the show. Probably not stop being gotta 533 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: do that. Yes, it's time for the first Hard Knocks 534 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: Report of sponsored by NFL dot Com, slash end around 535 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: daily pop culture and football. Yes, if you want to 536 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: check out really Definitive weekly recaps of this program gotta 537 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com and around. But now we're 538 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the episode a little bit and uh 539 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: a nice start to Hard Knocks. And by the way, 540 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: I should say this because we have so many loyal, wonderful, beautiful, 541 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: um sophisticated UK listeners who want to know, how can 542 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I see Hard Knocks? Uh? It will be available on 543 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: game Pass on Friday, so if you have game Pass, 544 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: you're in luck there. And on Sky Sports, which I 545 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: think is like their ESPN. Is that for that? Yeah, 546 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things something like that, uh later this 547 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: month on Sky Sports, so you will have a chance 548 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: to see it anyway. So the first episode of Hard Knocks, UM, 549 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: of course focusing on the Los Angeles Rams and the 550 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: thing that I I'll start with because that's how I 551 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: um it was the lead of my recap was you know, 552 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: big Jeff Fisher episode, and we we have our fun 553 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: with with Fisher and less Sneat and the Rams about 554 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: how they've had this almost commitment to mediocrity, not their goal, 555 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: but how it's it's uh played out since two thousand twelve. 556 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Every year seven or nine, eight and eight, seven or nine, 557 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: maybe six and ten sprinkled in and uh, I can't 558 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: say Jeff Fisher is not self aware because he uh 559 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: you makes a point of it to say that he 560 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: is sick of being that guy, and he does it 561 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: greg in a way that um I felt like maybe 562 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: a little cheap. Because there's a undrafted wide wide receiver 563 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: named Dion Lewis, excuse me, Dion Long who makes the 564 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: mistake of uh bringing having a girl at his dorm room, 565 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: which Fisher had uh stated, do not do this in 566 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: one of the early meetings of the summer, do not 567 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: have any um any women back at the dorm rooms. 568 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: He gets caught, uh, Dion Long does and and Jeff 569 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Fisher cuts him. It's pretty cold blooded scene. I don't 570 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: think there's any way that Long saw it coming the 571 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: way that it seemed like Long was under the oppression. 572 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: He was just gonna get a tongue lashing. Instead, he 573 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: gets kicked out the building and loses a job. And 574 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: then that sets up Jeff Fisher for a speech to 575 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: his team. And I will read that speech. I'm not 576 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: going seven and nine or eight and eight or nine 577 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: and seven, okay, or ten and six for that matter. 578 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: This team is too talented. I'm not gonna settle for that. 579 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. We had some seven and 580 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: nine bulle this morning. Now Deon's gone that a seven 581 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and nine bullet and we don't need it. You guys, 582 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: take ownership of this thing. Okay, you take ownership, and 583 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: you trust that I know what I'm doing and we're 584 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: going to be just fine. When you first heard that, West, 585 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: what were you're thinking, Well, I wish it was only 586 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: the Deon Long thing that caused this outburst, but it 587 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: is also because Tavon Austin had two bananas for lunch 588 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: and cramped up and it and it led to this, 589 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: like Jeff Fisher is gonna die on this hill, the 590 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: seven and nine and seven hill. I didn't buy a 591 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: word he said, and I'm not sure he got much 592 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: buying from his players on that thing. Well, I to me, 593 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the Tavon Austin thing made more sense. I wouldn't have 594 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: yelled about that necessarily either, But to me, it was 595 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: less offensive because he wasn't able to practice, which is 596 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: his job, and it affected the rest of practice because 597 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: he didn't take his nutrition all that seriously. By the way, 598 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: bananas help you from having cramp that that's all the 599 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: the I hate the Deon Long thing because it's so 600 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: hypocritical and it's so phony, because if he was the 601 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: number fifty five guy on the roster, he is not 602 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: getting caught. I'm not talking about of course, if it 603 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: was Tavon Austin or Todd Gurley, they're not getting caught. 604 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: But if he was even on the edge that he 605 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: had a chance to make the team, there's no way 606 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: they are cutting the player for having a woman apparently 607 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: in his room shortly. You know, it wasn't like a 608 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: long time to what happened was the guy came or 609 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: whoever checks the rooms came an hour before he was 610 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: supposed to come, So he got busted that way. Yeah, 611 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: so it's in the middle, middle of the afternoons. And 612 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: if if this guy was even had a chance to 613 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: make the team, he's not getting cut period. So you're 614 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: making a moral stand for something that you're being hypocritical about. 615 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: There's just no way that they're cutting Greg's or line 616 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: or Johnny Hecker if they do that. For instance, you 617 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: also pointed to Jeff Fishers self awareness, but does he 618 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: have the self awareness to know that he's going seven 619 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: and nine not because Dion Long is doing this stuff, 620 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: because look at your offensive coordinators and your quarterbacks over 621 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: the last three or four years. It's the coaching. And 622 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: that leads to the other aspect of the episode that 623 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: really struck me in and stood out more than anything, 624 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: is that Listen, Jared Goff has every opportunity here to 625 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: become a really good NFL quarterback, and maybe he will 626 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: be down the line. But right now, what you saw 627 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: in this practice is just how incredibly green and all 628 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: he is. Both as a personality as a kid. You 629 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: could tell he seems a little on the immature side 630 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: at this point and you know he's twenty two or whatever, 631 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: but also physically, uh, you see it in so the 632 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: struggles he has in practice, just his build which is slight, 633 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: you see it. And Greg Williams having a private conversation 634 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: with some other coaches really almost being you know, talking 635 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: about how much of a challenge you're facing that he 636 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: has no idea how to run a huddle. And then 637 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: then it kind of makes sense when you think about it, 638 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: when you see the report from Ian Rappaport that case 639 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: keenum is is has a chance to be the starter. 640 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: You watch this episode and He's like, oh, yeah, of course, 641 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: because this kid has so far to go. Well, yeah, 642 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: I thought Greg Williams put it, well, you have to 643 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: have a catalog in your mind. If you're a quarterback 644 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, there are eighteen to nineteen words sentences, 645 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: is what Greg Williams says. That you have to memorize 646 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: and basically shout out to everyone on the team, know 647 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: everybody's job on every play. And and he's just not 648 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: there yet. I mean, the one thing that coaches the 649 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: reason they don't want to do Hard Knocks is because 650 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: state secrets and developments and player development are shown nationally 651 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: now and we're talking about it and you're writing about it. 652 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: But with such a tender position a situation like Jared Goff. 653 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: Is this good that they're on Hard Knocks with Jared 654 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Goff not becoming an instant star and it's his personality too, 655 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: that's a problem. I think there's something to it. I 656 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: honestly think because they watched the episode, they're part of 657 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: the editing process, and I think they they think he 658 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: can take it. They think he can handle because they 659 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: show several coaches getting on him pretty good. Chris Wanky, 660 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know because gets off being this guy's challenging. 661 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: He wasn't a great player, but he's been running quarterback 662 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: right hat to me for years. But he but that annoyed, 663 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: not annoyed me. But I always I always blanched when 664 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: they're They love telling the players how close they are 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: to losing their jobs. The guy that are on the edge, 666 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: and he loved telling God, everyone's watching you, you know, 667 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: you better be ready because this is a big responsibility. 668 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: You better you know, because some people can't handle some 669 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: people can't handle that type of pressure. And of course 670 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: everyone watching the show has to be thinking, well, Chris 671 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: Winkie was one of those people. He's speaking from he's 672 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: speaking from experience that he was not one of those 673 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: people that could handle doesn't really help them to tell 674 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: them that over and over, Am, would you require your 675 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: quarterback to know where the sun rises and sets? That 676 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: was the other uh, you know, kind of comical aspect 677 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: of the episode is uh And it did remind me 678 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: of the two thousand twelve season of Hard Knocks when 679 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill did not know who else was in the 680 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: a f C East and he caught a ton of 681 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: crap for it. But uh, Jared goff doesn't know that 682 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, 683 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: and gets uh just you know, people just coming after him. 684 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: He's like the butt of jokes and it's a running 685 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: gag throughout the episode. It just seems like, so the 686 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Tannehill thing, I'll never forget right, will you? And this 687 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: is a golf thing. And then last year the Texans 688 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks looked like trash on fire after hard knocks because 689 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: of the fact the way they played in the way 690 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: they were just dealt with in general, like you gotta 691 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: be willing to take that pr hit if you're the 692 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: player of the team, because it's not a it's not 693 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: a positive on golf, but that's how it is out 694 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: of the game. They try to be fair and that's 695 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: what training campus force for rookie quarterbacks to get better. 696 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: And even by the end of the episode, they're showing 697 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: him making some nice passes and making right and and 698 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: he absolutely like you would expect him to make a 699 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: lot of progress in terms of the mental side of 700 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: the thing. By the by the end of the month, 701 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: I think they were fair to um, what other thing 702 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: I be remiss not to say I felt so bad 703 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: if you're a big RAMS fan a St. Louis Are 704 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: you watching the show? I'm wondering if you where you're at, 705 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: you just stop being a RAMS fan, because not only 706 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: did this team, you know, move to l A, they 707 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: don't spend any time on that aspect. And I understand 708 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: that's that's part of the whole thing. This is in 709 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: real time and the team's moving. But this if there 710 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: was an episode where they could dig into that just 711 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, what's what they're leaving behind, it would 712 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: have been the first episode before camp started. They chose 713 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: not to, and I don't I don't know if I 714 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: would um say that was necessarily the right thing to do, considering, 715 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of time that they spent in St. Louis, 716 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: and uh the other thing, Kendrick Lamar, Yeah, that was 717 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: a surprise. Uh, these cameos weren't happening in St. Louis. 718 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: Ken Kendrick Lamar and Schoolboy Q who I wasn't aware 719 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: of Schoolboy but but they're both South Central products and uh, 720 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: they showed up at practice and I and this is 721 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: just kind of like, I don't know, my own insecurity 722 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: is coming out, but I wanted Kendrick Lamar was so talented, 723 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: as we know as a rapper and a songwriter to suck. 724 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: But he could catch and he could throw. Look like 725 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: he could really throw it. You, I think you would 726 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: like Schoolboy, Q. I gotta I'm gonna plug in on Schoolboy. 727 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Just go groovy, groovy Tony Eddie came that song. It's 728 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: a banger? Are you lamar? I don't hear. Oh yeah, really, 729 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't hear. You're talking about him as much. I 730 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: know you're very plugged in to the hip hop culture. 731 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: One last thing about this episode. Yes, a shirtless Aaron 732 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Donald would turn Kevin Patrick into a shrinking violet. That 733 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: guy I loved how compare I did if he was 734 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: about ping pong, that he was legitimately piste, that he 735 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: was stuck with um Eugene Simps who could not play 736 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: ping pong, and so he lost to a couple of 737 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: you see Irvine jabronies. Um shout out to my wife's 738 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: album Modest. She wanted to watch the episode just to see, uh, 739 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: just to see the school. She's like, she know, yeah, 740 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: come on, guys, an eater, can't you better in that? Um? 741 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That is uh our 742 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: first hard know Hard Knocks recap. I thought, maybe we're 743 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna, you know, maybe play act the Oh 744 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: do you want to act it out between the coach. 745 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: You want to be the coach of the center. All right, 746 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: I'll be the coach. This was This was the exchange 747 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: between the coach and the center talking about the quarterback 748 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: center exchange. So yeah, always funny, Always funny because they 749 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: again they're trying to build this guy from the ground up. 750 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead and say this is terrible. Hey, he's gonna 751 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: stick his knuckle in your app Okay, that's what I 752 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: told him. Get in there, let him feel it that 753 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: that's a little deep. Give him some more pressure. That center, 754 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: by the way, is Eric Kush, who is a UH. 755 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: I wrote in the piece of Katie Ladecki. UH like 756 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: lead now over the rest of the field. UH to 757 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: me for Hard Knocks m v P. I loved when 758 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: he was going through his suitcase of tank tops. He 759 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: is the ultimate bro. He's America. You gotta have your 760 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: arms out for America, he said. This is he had 761 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: an American flag tank top. This is for those fat 762 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: arms American Friday days. You just throw the tank on 763 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: and rip it up for America. America's gonna have cush lass. 764 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: Cush lass. Oh, jere McGuire, Yeah, well it's from the nineties, 765 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 1: so I know. There you go. The Hard Knox Report, 766 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: episode one. Their five episodes will do on every Wednesday. Uh, 767 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: and Mark, you're gonna catch up. So we needed you 768 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: in there. That I mean, I I really enjoyed the 769 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: show and I will watch it tonight. And if David 770 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: Eally scheduled me for another six am shift next Wednesday, 771 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: you're banked. That's how it operates. We need to get 772 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: Illy on the phone to just talk about kind of 773 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: like a progress report for this new dynamic. I'm gonna 774 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: call him later. I'll deal with it. Unless you want 775 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: to call come over, you know, if you want to 776 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: come over to one of our houses and watch it. Oh, 777 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: do certainly come over to Rosenthal manner. That opens up 778 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: new possibilities. All right, Finally, let's talk about it. It's 779 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: division preview time. We'll start with the NFC East and 780 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: we're changing things up a little bit this year. We 781 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: did this last year, but we want to keep things fresh. 782 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: We always want to be both challenging ourselves in the audience. 783 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: So what we'll do we'll break this down into four 784 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: different categories and then a fifth question. So and then 785 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: we'll predict the standings and then we'll predict. Oh, we're 786 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna do one through four. Okay, I was sounds fun. 787 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, Uh, Breakout Star. Well, let's start here, 788 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: breakout Star out of the NFC East in and around 789 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: the Horn. We'll start with you, Mark Sessler. I'm gonna 790 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: go on you for me because I've said all along, 791 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: I don't think this whole nonsense that Sam Bradford is 792 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: going to be Phillies quarterback twelve thirteen games into the 793 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: season is absolute nonsense for anyone that has watched Sam Bradford. 794 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: He's in his third offense in three years. You don't 795 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: draft Carson Wentz if he is not going to be 796 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: starting a month in and he's going to start twelve 797 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: plus games and he's going to be fantastic, And I 798 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: think he's going to be in the division a bigger 799 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: deal than Ezekiel Elliott. Wow, you got to be dying 800 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: then that the Browns did not take this guy. I'm 801 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: not dying if they traded out of the number two picks, 802 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: because I think it's it's situation. I like, I am 803 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: not judging the Browns off of that. I think that 804 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: in the Eagle system he's going to do well. Not 805 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: only plays, he plays and plays well well. One thing 806 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: that helps him the bad defensive division. You get six 807 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: games against some bad defenses. I think that helps the 808 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: all the cubs in this division. Can I go last year? 809 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: I have a list and I want to step on anyone. Okay, 810 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Whatever? I'll go after. Oh, 811 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: I'll go after the two fly Boys. Alright, alright, fly 812 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: boy number one. I will stick with the Eagles. And uh, 813 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, I struggled a little bit with this one. 814 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to pick someone that really has been off 815 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: the grid, but this guy is. And Jordan Matthews has 816 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: had two nice years to start his career. UM A 817 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: Top twenty five fantasy producer Evan Silva tells me and 818 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: some of my research over at roade a World, But 819 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: now you enters his third season's twenty four years old. 820 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: He could play inside and outside. UM. I think, especially 821 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: if he gets a good quarterback playing UM. If Mark's 822 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: prediction pans out, I think he could be a guy 823 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: that makes a leap. Also a good red zone target. 824 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: He's done well in the red zone, So would I 825 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: be shocked if he made that leap to you know, 826 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: eighty and ten something like that. No, I think he 827 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: has that type of ability. We've been talking about Jordan 828 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: Matthews potential for a couple of years now. I think 829 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: this when he comes into full bloom. I've noticed that 830 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: you and Evan Silva have quite a respectful relay and 831 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: ship on Twitter. I appreciate that Evan's great at what 832 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: he does. He's like one of my favorite guys thread. 833 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Evan Silva is the guy out fantasy, another guy hired 834 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: by Greg Brick. By brickhal well, I'm going back to 835 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: a guy that impressed this in the preseason last year, 836 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: Matt Jones. You know, I know, uh, there's some talk 837 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: about Keith Marshall, who's a rookie running back there taking 838 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: some snaff I'm trust in my eyes. I know it 839 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: didn't work out for him, but man, he's got everything 840 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: you want in a running back. Power, great ability to 841 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: make people miss in a small area. He can catch 842 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: the ball. I think that offense is going to score 843 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: plenty of touchdowns, go up and down the field a 844 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: little bit. I think he can have a monster season. 845 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: He's a guy I'd want in fantasy leagues for sure. 846 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: I feel like we skipped two obvious guys in his 847 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: Egel Elliott and Sterling Shepherd. But I'm going with a 848 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: guy that nobody's really talking about. Bashad Brelan, the redskins 849 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: other cornerback who I believe every bit as talented as 850 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Josh Norman the ball skills are, is just as good 851 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: physically gifted uh and has been intercepting passes at the 852 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: rate of one per practice session during training camp. I 853 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: think that guy is going to be their best cornerback 854 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: this year, better than Josh Norton, I mean, and it 855 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: helps that Norman will be depending on how they operate 856 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: and taking on a lot of primary threats too. Yes, 857 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: do you ever get to have that situation when you're 858 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: you jump into a conversation, you missed the very beginning 859 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: of it, and nine percent of the the time you could 860 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: get in on and figure out what's going on, but 861 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: that ten percent you don't. I missed your name that 862 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 1: you said, Greg, and then I was just playing catch 863 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: up the whole time, and then West went to his 864 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: and I never knew who you were. Talking listen. They 865 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: would never know, but I appreciate that, yeareosity you want 866 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: to know? It was Matt Jones. Oh, Matt Jones. Okay, Okay, 867 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: I like it alright. Good one guys, Good ones, guys, 868 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: coma guys. Biggest concern our next category, Mark Sessler, Well, 869 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Dallas defense. I hate to be obvious again, 870 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: but I mean this is an offense that rides and 871 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,479 Speaker 1: falls with Tony Romo's health. And I feel like even 872 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: if if Dez, Bryan and Romo are healthy all year, 873 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: this is a team that needs to go back to 874 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: what they did in and and chew up the clock 875 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: and time of possession. And that's what helped that defense 876 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: stay afloat that year along with you know, I think 877 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: that Rod Marinelli coached them up and did a good job. 878 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: He's dealing with a lot that coach that defense. According 879 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: to this time, you've got a rash of you know, 880 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: its suspensions players out and on top of it, the 881 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: players that are there just just not a very strong 882 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: core of defensive players. I'd be really concerned. He's I 883 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 1: think for them to do they have to win shootouts 884 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: and you're in a in a division with a lot 885 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: of good wide receivers and good running backs, this could 886 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: be an uphill climb for Dallas. I'm just assuming they're 887 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: gonna go twelve and four like some people are, right 888 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: I when I was at the practice, I mean, David 889 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: Irving and Ryan Russell were lining up as their starting 890 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: defensive ends to start the year, and I would you know, 891 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: forgive you if you don't have a big knowledge of 892 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: those two players, resume their county on players that have 893 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: barely ever played to play a big time roles direct 894 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: Silver Linings Playbook. Yeah, did a great job. Joy, God, 895 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: Joy was a terrible movie. But three three Kings though 896 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: Three Kings always no. I saw the billboard for it 897 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: and I said, skip that, Lawrence looking up to this, well, 898 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: it's right away. You get a feeling like you like, 899 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're asked your dad's you're going to 900 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: three movies a year. That was not cracking to try to. 901 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: I try to avoid reviews, but a movie like Joy, 902 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: you don't really need to hear too many negative reviews 903 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: to be like, all right, I'm just gonna trust Sorry, 904 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: David O. Russell. I'm in on everything Lawrence related. Love 905 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence. Oh yeah, so I was in regardless of 906 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: the reviews, and she couldn't save it. She did everything 907 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: she could. They have a lot of ifs though, but 908 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: that you're right about that shot. I mean, if Shaun 909 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: Lee ever got hurt again, he that would never happen. 910 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean they'd be in trouble. That they're counting on 911 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: Mori's Claybourn and they're County. A lot of people were 912 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: in locksteps so far, Mark, we're talking about the same teams. 913 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: But I I will go something obvious too. We've talked 914 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: about a lot. My biggest concern is the Cowboys backup 915 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: planet quarterback. It's a mess. It's a terrible situation that 916 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: got worse when Kellen Moore broke his damn leg. And listen, yes, 917 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't want Tony rome When to get hurt, but 918 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: what you know over under on starts for this guy 919 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: this year, you gotta set it at eight eight and 920 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: a half. That's just the reality of the game and 921 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: what we well, well, it's a back injury, it's not 922 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,479 Speaker 1: and that clavical is one shot away. I think he's 923 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable quarterback in the league. And they did 924 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: not put in a real backup plan, which is puzzling 925 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: to me. And once he goes, they're done. I don't 926 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: care how good that offensive line is. I don't care 927 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: what the defense surprises us, as they've done in the past. 928 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't care of Ezekiel Elliott is the best running 929 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: back on the planet. Romo goes, so too, goes both 930 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: the hopes of the Cowboys and Jason Garrett. In my opinion, 931 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: I'll jump in here because that was my biggest concern. 932 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: Also the combination of Tony Romo's brittleness and the cowboys 933 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: unwillingness or inability to get more than a third string 934 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: cast off as their backup quarterback, starting with Brandon Weeden, 935 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: Matt Castle, Kellen Moore. You can't go into seasons because, look, 936 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys maybe slight favorites in this division, but it's 937 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: close enough that if Tony Romo is out, let's say 938 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: he's only out for a month this time, Josh McCown 939 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: can get you over that hump. Can Dak Prescott? I 940 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: don't know well? And is he Tony Romo? He was 941 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: gonna be my guy at a crossroads, but we're talking 942 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: about him now, so I'll do someone else there is 943 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: he Tony Romo? Is he gonna be able to move around? 944 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: It's a concern to me that he has to miss 945 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: so many practices in training camp. It is not a 946 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: story there. They say it's planned, and I believe them. 947 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean that that's been there playing. They're gonna arrest 948 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 1: him as much as possible. But isn't that a little 949 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: bit of a concern. You don't see Tom Brady or 950 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: anyone like that sitting out every third practice. He's not 951 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 1: even allowed to play golf anymore. His body has gotten 952 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: to the point where he's so vulnerable and he's playing 953 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: a brutal game where everyone wants to kill him. He 954 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: seems ten years older than Tom Brady, who's three years 955 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: older than Romow. With all that said, they do have great, 956 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: great protection for him and great people around him, so 957 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: they could be great too. It's great, only takes one hit, 958 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: only magnifies what you said, Jerry Jones. He will never 959 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: fire himself as the GM. But to go into this 960 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: year when you still think you have a Super Bowl 961 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: window and you didn't go out and secure the backup position, 962 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a narrative that hangs over his head. 963 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: Isn't for forever. Basics, Well, I bet a sandwich on 964 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: that they'll have a different backup that has been a 965 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: veteran starting experience, probably an account whoever it is someone 966 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: nobody's taking that sandwich pro right. That's all I'm saying. 967 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: What's my concern gonna be the Giants offensive line? I 968 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: thought I thought of a couple of spots on the 969 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: Giants because it's a it's a good rock. I think 970 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: this could be a good team. I like that they're 971 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna push the pace, but they're counting on Eric Flowers, 972 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: who's a big question at left tackle. Has he gotten 973 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,919 Speaker 1: any better? The right side of their line looks bad, 974 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: and it's a team that's so star driven Odell Shepherd, 975 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: Eli Manning. I think they need the line to be 976 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: much better than they were last year, and I don't 977 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: really see any reason to believe that. And that's gonna 978 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,479 Speaker 1: make that running game in Rashad Jennings and that whole 979 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: poop poop platter of running backs not look very good. 980 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: It's that Rasters close, But the linebackers in the offensive 981 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: line to me, are two major major weekn and I 982 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: had Giants running backs is a backup if you guys 983 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: all took the ones I had before, because it's the 984 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: he's the guy who's the main guy there. It's a 985 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: bunch of people telling you they're going to be the guy. Right, 986 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jennings. It sounds like this, you're really 987 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: carrying the load. But he's just the guy. Marshall Newhouse. 988 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: They're right, tackle is the new Tyler Columbus. That guy's 989 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: a swinging gate. Next up the under right, the underrated 990 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: storyline in the NFC East Mark. I'm gonna go with 991 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: Phillis defense under Jim Schwartz because I think we've heard 992 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: all about, oh, the lack of depth and wide receiver, 993 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, what's going on with their offensive line. 994 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: But when you look at Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham and 995 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: Vinny Curry, these guys initially were brought in for a 996 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: four man front and they fit well with Jim Schwartz. 997 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 1: And you know, going back and reading what the players 998 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: are saying, there was not an easy situation under Chip Kelly. 999 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: Those defensive players did not like being on the field 1000 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: as much as they were. Practice was tough for them. 1001 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: It was just a mess. I think Jim Schwartz has 1002 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: proven that he can be a great defensive coordinator. I 1003 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: don't like him as a head coach necessarily, but all 1004 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: these Eagles players are saying, we feel at home again. 1005 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring pressure, We're gonna have fun, and I 1006 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: think this is a perfect match for a team that 1007 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: in the end might be led by its defense. We 1008 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: during the breakout Star segment we missed Vinny Curry. It 1009 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he has double digit sacks this 1010 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: year in that defense. Great safety combo two with McLeod 1011 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: and Jenkins. That was gonna be my number one pick 1012 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: two for underrated story I mean, I think it's a 1013 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: nice starting lamp. The only thing that's a little worried 1014 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz kind of brought in his guys. They're starting 1015 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: cornerbacks are probably Leotis McLevin and Ron Brooks. Who are 1016 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: who are and he wants to bring in Stephen Jim 1017 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: Schwarts guy. So that's a little bit of a concern. 1018 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: But I agree, I think that Eagles defense is going 1019 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: to carry them. Uh, Marcus, what my underrated storyline is 1020 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: about the Eagles? If you're a lock step once again, 1021 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: Carson wins I had a nice conversation with A Sparrow. 1022 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: I was writing my Hard Knocks recap last night I 1023 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: took a little break did some texting with a high high, 1024 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: high level Sparrow and we were talking about how jard 1025 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: Goff was kind of thrown in, thrown in the fire 1026 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: a little bit in the in the premiere of Hard Knocks, 1027 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: and how you know they were kind of putting him 1028 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: in a tough spot, and the Rams were in a 1029 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: tough spot, uh, needing this guy to be something, and 1030 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher was in a tough spot and it was 1031 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: just just felt like the pressure was on and I 1032 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: think it underrated. Storyline is that Carson Wentz they're handling 1033 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: this right way in Philadelphia where they he's the number 1034 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 1: two pick. He is their future, and it seemed weird 1035 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: when they had all these quarterbacks ahead of him. He's like, 1036 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: what are they doing? But now it makes a little 1037 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: more sense. This guy gets to really assimilate into the 1038 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: league in a in a in a good way and 1039 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: maybe like Mark saying, uh, Sam Bradford struggles or Chase 1040 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: Daniels doesn't work out where those guys get hurt, who 1041 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: knows and Carson what steps in and and ends up 1042 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: being a player. But even if he only gets in 1043 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: uh in December, and then you know, he gets some starts, 1044 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: he gets his feet wet. I think the fact that 1045 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: they're not rushing this guy will pay dividends for the franchise, 1046 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: and it really is striking the difference between how the 1047 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: Rams and Eagles have handled this. Should I be collecting 1048 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: my own sparrows? I feel like I'm remiss here. I 1049 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: don't have I don't have any sparrows around the office. 1050 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw you tweet something out with 1051 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: a team source yesterday. That's pretty high level. He's a 1052 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 1: sparrow for you too. Sparrows um any of your thoughts 1053 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: on that, guys, I agree with I think the Rams 1054 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: where the where the Eagles in the point is the 1055 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: Eagles having like a pissing contest about their spec Yeah, 1056 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: that was slightly embarrassing and trying to get us out 1057 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: of that into the next faith. I mean where the 1058 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: Rams now feel like they're being maybe forced into doing 1059 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: what the Eagles very you know Demonseli did from the start, 1060 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: which was we're not gonna put went out there. Now 1061 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: the Rams saying well, maybe golf isn't number one, so hey, 1062 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: it's back to case know what whether and this is 1063 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: the NFCS, but whether Guff starts or not, he is 1064 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: in the line of fire this year. I mean, let's 1065 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: see if you can handle I think what you said. 1066 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you said it well. And when was the 1067 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: last time the Eagles could have been underrated at anything 1068 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: or under the radar? This isn't under the radar team. 1069 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: That's what's under the radar, the fact that the Eagles 1070 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: who have just been no it was gonna be the 1071 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: defense before. But to me, that is that is under 1072 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: the radar, that the Eagles are now kind of a 1073 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: team just floating out there. It's if you want to 1074 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: be a coach, you want to take over for someone 1075 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: like Jim Harball or Chip Kelly. If if the roster 1076 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: is in the shambles where you're not gonna be the 1077 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: lightning run, my choice is just gonna be And I 1078 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it briefly before. The pace that the Giants playoff 1079 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: it is an interesting team in terms of they played 1080 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: at the second highest pace of any team in the 1081 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: league last year and the sound of them at practice 1082 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: this year, it sounds like they're gonna ramp it up 1083 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: even more. The Giants have never been fun to watch, 1084 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: but I gotta say, if they keep this up, they're 1085 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: kind of the new the new Eagles. And if they 1086 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: got Odell Beckham like, that's gonna be fun to watch. 1087 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: If nothing else, that's gonna be fun. That they're going 1088 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: up and down the field with Odell. Do not be 1089 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: surprised if Eli Manning leads the NFL and touchdowns this year. 1090 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm always sowed down on them, and I'm with you 1091 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: that I think they're going to have big time stats 1092 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: and quite a week for Eli Manning. Will really help. 1093 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: Is we call a famecase West oh I would love 1094 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: for that to have underrated story Manning m VP. I 1095 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: like the sound of that West underrated storyline. The best 1096 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: team Kirk coussins has ever beaten Ohio State. Look it, yes, 1097 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean look at his stats last year. They look 1098 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: phenomenal and Mark and I famously stood up for him 1099 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: when Greg was bashing him. I wasn't bashing him. I 1100 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: just said he was an average guy lifted up by 1101 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: his team. Well that's what he had, that's what he is, 1102 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 1: And go back and look at the teams he's beaten 1103 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: in his career. Not one is a good team Week two. 1104 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: Rams last year might be the best team he's beaten, 1105 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's I don't think you can just 1106 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: expect Kirk Cousins to have the same stats as last year. 1107 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: That's the underrated storyline. The Kissing Cousins bandwagons a little 1108 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: weird because I can't tell who's on it and who's 1109 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: off it. Well, we never like all we were doing 1110 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 1: was sticking up to Greg and saying, give Kirk Cousins 1111 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 1: a little respect. It wasn't that we thought Kirk Cousins 1112 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: was some great you love Kirk. I think Greg, you know, 1113 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: Greg went and watched all these quarterbacks, so we were 1114 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: just coming from a different angle. I was prone to 1115 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: seeing some of Kirk cousins big games and feeling he 1116 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: had taken a step forward and the whole team had. 1117 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't just you know, the Redskins offense had a 1118 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: lot of weapons last year and they do again. Well, 1119 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: this show is going long, So I'm gonna go to 1120 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: make talk about Kirk Cousins because he was my crossroads guy. 1121 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: Do it and then we can move move to the crossroads. 1122 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: Because I don't think people see this season as a 1123 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: crossroads year for Kirk Cousins, but he's on a one 1124 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 1: year contract, and the way that that front office talks 1125 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: about kirk Cousins, I just get the sense, and just 1126 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: the contract itself, I get the sense they share some 1127 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: of the same doubts that we do and that if 1128 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't go that well, that they'll be open to 1129 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: moving on from him. They have great talent around him, 1130 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 1: and so to me, it is a crossroads year for 1131 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: him because he can either get one of those big 1132 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: contracts or we could be thinking about him very differently 1133 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: a year. You know, he could he could come down 1134 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: to earth and none of us would be shocked and 1135 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: have an average or worst season and he could be 1136 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: in like Ryan Fitzpatrick's situation next year. Yep, let me 1137 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: piggyback on Greg here, because my crossroads campaign is the 1138 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: Redskins offense. Deshan Jackson and Pierre coach Pierre Garcone also 1139 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: in contract years not getting any younger. Do they see 1140 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: those guys as core guys after the drafting? Josh dockson 1141 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: Matt Jones make or break year for him? Is he 1142 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: going to be a feature back or is he going 1143 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: to be the guy who averaged three point four yards 1144 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: per carry and have fumbling problems. So I think for 1145 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: that entire offense just about it's it's a make or 1146 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: break year for me. Dez Bryant. Will he finally break out? No, no, no, 1147 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm going JPP. He's on a one year contract in 1148 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: New York, and you know, if he plays the way 1149 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: he did last year with some of the positives and negatives, 1150 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you get a big contract necessarily at all. 1151 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: If he comes out. I saw someone said he's gonna 1152 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: have double digit sacks. Well, we'll see. If he comes 1153 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: out and he regained some of his old form, then 1154 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be a chance for him to go 1155 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: out in the market and lead the Giants who only 1156 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: wanted to give him a one year deal and get 1157 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: some big cash. Wow, we hit for the cycle mark. 1158 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: I will also talk about the Giants. Jerry Reese. Jerry 1159 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: Reeses been there since two thousand seven, won a Super 1160 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: Bowl's first year, was the golden boy of management in 1161 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: New York. Won a second Super Bowl. But the Giants 1162 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: have been up and down, and he spent a ton 1163 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: of money talked to ownership into opening up their pocketbook. 1164 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: And this doesn't work a lot. I mean, let's face it, 1165 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: you can get excited about the Giants, but when you 1166 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: lean on free agency to completely rebuild a roster, that 1167 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: can be very hit or miss. Uh So, if it 1168 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: goes badly, Jerry's out of a job after what's been 1169 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: a long run in New York. All right, here we 1170 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: go one through four, One through four, Mark counted off 1171 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: one Washington, two Philadelphia, three Dallas, four New York Giants. 1172 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: Interesting west one Dallas Cowboys to New York Giants, three 1173 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins for Philadelphia Eagles. Wow, I got one New 1174 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: York Giants. I got one. Dallas Cowboys to Philadelphia Eagles, 1175 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: three New York Giants, four Washington Redskins first and fourth. 1176 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: I like that we're all disagreeing. Well, that's this division 1177 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: to do it. And and and I'm disagreeing to because 1178 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: I have the Eagles first. I I can't even decide, 1179 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: but I'll put I'll put the Cowboys second. I think 1180 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: they're very close with the Giants, and I have the 1181 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: Redskins going from first to worst. All right now, the lastly, 1182 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: let's each choose a song that best describes the NFC 1183 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: East in two thousand sixteen, Mark Sessler, you're up first, 1184 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: all right, So this is the diviny you know where 1185 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: old when everyone immediately recognizes this side, even before the 1186 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: words yeah it's I you know, I love myself. I 1187 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: touched myself. That's the NFC East. No matter what we 1188 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: actually do in life or what we achieve, Yeah, we 1189 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: must be on national television every week. We're so into ourselves. 1190 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's so into us. It's not a meritocracy. The Cowboys 1191 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 1: could go four and twelve, They'll be on TV nine times. 1192 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: It is absolutely ridiculous. There are seven other divisions to 1193 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 1: focus on, and we have to deal with Chris Collins. 1194 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: We're talking NFC East every single freaking Sunday night. Enough. 1195 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: He said it all that I touched my What is 1196 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: How does that connect again? Though? Well, it's someone is 1197 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: just all into their own pleasure. All they're all about them. 1198 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: They're probably the NFC East holding up a big mirror 1199 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and sitting from a mirror it schedule. That's the only 1200 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: reason they are. Jerry Jones has quite a bit to 1201 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: do with the television in the NFL circles, and he 1202 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 1: couldn't be happier with the arrangement. They are not much 1203 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, I touched myself the divinyls? Is that what 1204 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: it was? Yes? Correct, Chris Westling, We're so old? All right, 1205 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: there we go. This is, of course the remotes. I 1206 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: want to be sedated, y Wes. The NFC East is 1207 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the most boring division in football, and it has been 1208 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: for several years. And yet to piggyback off marks point, 1209 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: they'll be on TV more in one week than the 1210 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: a f C South will be all year. I mean, 1211 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: give me a break. As much as this divisions on 1212 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 1: t they will put me to sleep. Just sedate me, please. Hey, 1213 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the FC South gets a lot of good Thursday night 1214 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: games Week four team through seventeen, guys, well, there are 1215 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 1: a lot more fun to watch than any NFC East game. 1216 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I get it. These teams are getting a little better. 1217 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm usually down. I mean, this is what I'm with you, guys. 1218 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: What are you they're getting that Romo's injured in week 1219 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: A little Cousins balls on his face. Giants, all the 1220 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Giants weak positions show up and come on, they're not 1221 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: that good. I don't think they're good, but they're a 1222 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 1: little more. Eagles offense is the worst unit in the division. 1223 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Come on, I think this would be a good time 1224 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: for the kissing cousins to actually kiss. We just were aligned, 1225 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: were aligned, That's what I mean. We don't like boring football, 1226 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: all right? Here we go, moving on with more old 1227 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: white guy rock. Why are you guys so ashamed of 1228 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: your I'm not You don't have to act like you're cool. No, 1229 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: it's cool. It's fine. It's just old white guy rock. 1230 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 1: It's good. Touch myself. It's old white guy rock. I 1231 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: don't think so. Oh yeah, ah the Boss Bruce Springsteen, 1232 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Jersey Boy. If you want to talk about NFC East 1233 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen, that feels right. And one of my favorite 1234 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Bruce songs off Tunnel of Love, Brilliant Disguise. And I'll 1235 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: tell you why I chose brilliant Skies, gentlemen. This is 1236 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: a song about self doubt, Bruce. This is the Voors album. 1237 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 1: It's is blood on the tracks. It's about a guy 1238 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: doesn't know what's right, what's wrong? And I don't know 1239 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: these teams. It's a brilliant the Skies. Are they good? 1240 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Are they bad? Who's gonna come in first, Who's gonna 1241 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: come in last? Who is who? What is what left 1242 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: this right up up down? The sun rises in the 1243 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: east or the West. I don't know. Wow, Ruth very 1244 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: passionate about the NFC East. These teams a brilliant disguise. 1245 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Who are they? Where will they finish? None of us knows. 1246 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: It's a great mystery, great song, great choice. Thanks. Do 1247 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: you know that song? But I liked well? I want 1248 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to hear grigg song. Oh, I don't know. Now I'm 1249 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: rethinking it's kind of a random song no one's ever 1250 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 1: heard of. But let's hear it. I don't know if 1251 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: we start at the right place. Oh yeah, the National, 1252 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of course I started in the right place. Fake Empire 1253 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: by the National, great indie band of the Outs. Why 1254 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: the choice? Well, the chorus were half awake in a 1255 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: fake empire, and that's what the NFC East is, this 1256 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: fake empire lording over the league man. For the same 1257 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,479 Speaker 1: reason that Mark and West. I think you would enjoy 1258 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: this song, fake empire. I think that your sentiments are 1259 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: exactly what what wetually exactly. I knew that there would 1260 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 1: be a lot of the sentiments. That's why I try 1261 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: to go somewhere else. So it wasn't four of us 1262 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. But I get. I totally get 1263 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: where all three of you guys are coming from. I 1264 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 1: would use fake empire to describe the entity that has 1265 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: caused the flyboy nickname little inside Baseball from West there. 1266 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: But it's all right. You could perhaps figure it out. 1267 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Probably not I do. Like by the way, Gregg was 1268 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. This is I love Okay, that's good. Greg 1269 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: got a little uncomfortable. He's like, my showing too much 1270 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: of my inner self by playing this kind of indie 1271 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: band that not everybody well. He just accused us of 1272 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: trying to be too cool, and I played, that's ashamed, 1273 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: like we have to be like, oh rock is dead, 1274 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: we have to only play hip hop? Are you finish 1275 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: your are youself? Greg was opening his heart up and 1276 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: he's like whoa. He was opening the kimono and it's like, 1277 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: should I open this kimono? I think that's good? And 1278 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: then I thought that was a good job by me, 1279 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: because I said Greg opened that kimono nothing, that was 1280 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: a good job by me. And the kimono came out 1281 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 1: in the National. You like the National a little more 1282 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: than me, but I love them. They're good, not great 1283 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 1: California music. That's what I'll say, maybe better for a 1284 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: rainy day on these right, it's a dark sort of 1285 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 1: like everything is a lie type of thing, just like 1286 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: the NFC East and you and you keep pigeonholing me 1287 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: as a hip hop guy, so little Wayne with Us 1288 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: stops and I wanted to switch off of that. That's good. 1289 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 1: You stuck it to me a little bit in a 1290 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: big spot. All right, good talk guys. Super is the 1291 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: addition of the show. Uh, we will be back on 1292 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday. We haven't quite nailed down the schedule 1293 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of the week, but we know there 1294 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: are preseason games on Thursday, so if we have a 1295 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Friday show, that's why, because we want to talk about it. 1296 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: Either way, we'll figure it out, um, but thank you 1297 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: for listening. Until then. This is dan Ass signing up 1298 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: for quite storm. It's got a Mac now, the Mailman, 1299 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: the Boss and the Irishman behind the Glass. It's out 1300 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Thursday on Friday. You seem kind of subdued compared to 1301 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the last few shows before we get going anything wrong. 1302 01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: Don't read into it too much. We're all in care 1303 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: your cult of sex and except for the fly Boys, 1304 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: no stopping us