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Speaker 1: is Wednesday, which means a dear friend Donnie Meetscham is

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Speaker 1: joining us. Hey, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Hello, Hello Rob.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what a delight it was to

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Speaker 1: highlight of my trip back to New York. It's so

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Speaker 1: good to see you. I forgot how much we missed

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Speaker 1: And it's been a while, it's been the pandemic. So

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Speaker 1: it's lovely, lovely to see you in person. Hey, what

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Speaker 1: time is it, my friends? It are time. Lots of

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Speaker 1: details about Olivia Newton john So, she spoke candidly about

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Speaker 1: so it's hard to put it into words. She went

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Speaker 1: on to say, quote, I feel like we are all

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Speaker 1: So she's saying here that she believes there's something that

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Speaker 1: And she said she did have her husband John, her

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Speaker 1: There had been talks about her not doing well. I

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Speaker 1: So I think we've just got used to Olivia surviving.

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Speaker 1: is Nory Gossip, and be sure to check back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey Donny, what are you working

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