1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Welcome you to the OTP, the first off season edition 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: of the OTP. Unfortunately, my name is Mike Keith. Amy 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Wells is here. We say unfortunately, Amy, not because we're 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: unhappy to be joining the ot people. We're just saddened 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: that we don't have a game to talk about this week. Yes, 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: it is disappointing that we are not talking about the 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: game of all games. However, I'm pretty darn happy with 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: how everything went, so no complaints on this side of 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: the table might key, all right. So Amy Wells is here. 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: She's on her way to Orlando to the Pro Bowl, 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: where the Titans will have four four different players taking part, 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: and she will have reports and interesting things going on 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: from Orlando. You're leaving this afternoon. This afternoon. Dave McGinnis 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: is here. He's not going to the Pro Bowl. I 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: don't think, Mike Keith. No, I'll let Amy and Ashley 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: and handle all that. They'll do a great job with it. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: But Pro Bowl is I still don't know what to 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: make of Pro Bowl in Orlando. I know, now that 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: you've been to Hawaii, you wish it was in Hawaii. Yes, 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I would much rather it be in Hawaii. However, it's 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: a shorter flight, which I appreciate to get to Orlando. 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: And I like the Mickey mouse factor. I like the 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: proximity to Disney World. Coach Mac likes the Mickey mouse 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: factor too. Because they're changing the rules of the Pro Bowl, 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: they sure are at Speaking of Pro Bowl, Jim Wyatt 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: is on his way to Orlando and then on his 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: way from there to Miami, so he's going to be 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks. Sitting in Titans Radio's 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Rhett Brian. Welcome to the OTP, glad to be back. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: All right, good, So I'm gonna jump in with this 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: right away and feel free to chime in wherever you wish. 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: We are not a formal group. Retta. All right, So 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl last year, no kickoffs, put the 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: ball down at the twenty five, and I like that. 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Did you flip flop? Like you've given me the business 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: about it? Because you know I'm for the rule change 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: this year. There will be no kickoffs at the Pro Bowl. 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: But if you want to have an onside kick, no 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: onside kick, it's the Greg Siano rule, fourth and fifteen, 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: make it, take it. And he proposed that years ago 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: and got laughed at and then the AAF did it, 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: and it has gained some traction, particularly because I went 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: back through the statistics on onside kicks over the last 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: two years. There have been one hundred fourteen attempted, twelve successful, 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: and the majority of those were surprise on sidekicks. Later 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: in this past twenty nineteen season, for a while there 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: had only been one successful one throughout the course of 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: the year, but just an eleven percent success rate. Even 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: by changing the alignment of the play, it is still 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: an incredibly dangerous play, the on side kick, and so 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna take a look at that. Do you think 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: the kickoff is closer to being gone in the game 53 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: of football? Dave McGinnis and then Reet Bryant. I don't 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: think the kickoff is close to being gone. I think 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the onside kick is edging towards this way because you know, 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: they spread it out. You only have certain numbers on 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: each side now, and your numbers, you know, just verify 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. At least you would have a chance 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: with this fourth and fifteen at least I don't think. 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll take the kickoff out of the 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: game yet, though I don't think they will either. But 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: the onside kick, I would agree Coach Mac, I think 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of waning away because how many successful onside 64 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: kicks are there now anyway? Well he just said twelve, 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, in two years, so there you go, and 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: most of them are of the surprise variety. So yeah, 67 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it'll be a fourth and fifteen rather than an onside kick. 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: If you fail, obviously the other team gets the ball 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: at that spot. If you make it, you keep the football. 70 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: What do you think, Amy Wells? I think that's awesome. 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent all in on this, and I'm 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: not going as far as Mike Keith, who wants to 73 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: abolish all things kickoff related. I do he does. However, 74 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: I love that that play, the on sidekick fourth and fifteen, 75 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: That moment can become an actual plausible moment. Now it's 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: actually something you have to prepare for, and you have 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: to you have a chance of getting. On sidekicks never worked. 78 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen one work in real life. 79 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: We haven't had one work here since the Arizona game 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. Rhett will remember this. Ryan Fitzpatrick rallied 81 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: us from seventeen down to send the game into overtime, 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: and then he threw a horrible interception in overtime. Shocking, 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh so bad. He played a great game, he threw 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: for over four hundred yards, but in typical fits magic form, 85 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: he had a moment in overtime. That's another story though, 86 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: But that's the last time the Titans have successfully had 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: an onside kick. Ryan suck Up in his career is 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: one of twenty three on on sidekicks. See. That's why 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: when you say this fourth and fifteen, there's an element 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: of a chance to do it, and you also take 91 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: a risk because if you don't get it, if they 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: get the ball right there, well then that I like 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: that and you take out. I mean, it is a 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: very even when it's five on a side now, it's 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: still dangerous. I wonder, and I go back to the thing. 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I think the whole touchback thing is boring, which is 97 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: why I want the kickoff done and I want the 98 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: game sped up. I just think it's a I think 99 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: it's a better thing. I think you're either doing what 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: the XFL does, where you make it where they have 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: to return the kickoff, or you get rid of it. 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to see touchbacks. I have no interest 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: in watching some guy put his arms outsideways like he's 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: bringing a plane into the you know, into the hangar 105 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I have no interest in that. 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: That is not a football play. Either, Do what the 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: XFL is doing and make it to where you have 108 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: to return them, which of course flies in the face 109 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: of the safety thing that that that the league has 110 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: put forward, which is why they moved up the kickoff line. Anyway, 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: absolutely it was. I'm saying, just just be If you're 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: saying safety's an issue, don't give me a touchback, give 113 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: me the time wasted on all that putting the ball 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: at the twenty five m I understand that, but I 115 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: want to kick off two. I don't want the touchback. 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't want seventy percent touchbacks. It's how much time 117 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: do you think you could shave off of a game 118 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: in the whole kill the ratings era that we're in 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: five to ten minutes? I mean easy, easy? What do 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you think easy? I do know this. I'm sorry, Amy, No, 121 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, go my thing. I love the I like 122 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of it except for at the beginning of 123 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: every half. Is that stupid? No? I like the pageantry 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: of kicking off the football, of course we I mean 125 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: we used to have jump balls in bassketball every thirty seconds, 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: seemingly until they did away with it except for the 127 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: start at the game and at the start of overtime. Yeah, 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: like that's what I want. I want the moment of 129 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: kicking the ball. Don't see anybody else, man, I wish 130 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: we had more jump balls. I mean that people have 131 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: gotten over it. So why don't we just start each 132 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: half with a kickoff? Can we do that? I think 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: that's nice if it's a kickoff again, I want to 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: see a guy run back the kick. I'm not against 135 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: running back the kick to I don't. I just don't 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: want to see ten guys go running down for no 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: reason and ten guys standing there acting like they're gonna 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 1: block them for no reason. Because Harrison Butker is gonna 139 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: kick the ball eighty yards justin Tucker is going to 140 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: kick the ball eighty yards. It's it's boring. I will 141 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: say this. I was, you know, I was at quite 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a few of those games down in Birmingham and other 143 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: places with this alliance and uh and when they first started, 144 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, Chris Bartenson's son coach for the Alliance, and 145 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: so you know, I would sit with him during the 146 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: games up in his box, and when it first started, 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: we were both were going, I wonder how this is 148 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: going to be no kickoffs because clearly, I mean, we've 149 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: both been the league a long time. Look at it. 150 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I kind of liked it once they started just setting 151 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: it down there because of the time factor, wells and 152 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: we would look. We would look at each other at 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: halftime ago this went fast. The flow of it is better, 154 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I will agree with that. I mean the flow of it. 155 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: You get used to it pretty quick, the flow of it. 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is I wonder now that the 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: onside kick thing I think is to add more excitement 158 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: changing an onside kick out for a fourth and fifteen 159 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: play see I like that. I do too. I do too, 160 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: And I do think it ties into the safety issue 161 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: because you're taking that dangerous play away, which is a 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: good thing. I wonder if some of this talk doesn't 163 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: start because of the seventeenth game in the new CBA, 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: if they don't find ways to improve safety, to keep 165 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: talking about the improved safety as the players combat the 166 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: discussion about the seventeenth game not being safe. If that's 167 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a point where they kind of blend it together at well, 168 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: and to your point, when you're talking about ten guys 169 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: running down there for nothing, mileage, fresh legs, wear and tear, 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing comes into play with that. Yeah, I 171 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think that's where that becomes a 172 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: bargaining chip in a new CBA. If a seventeenth game 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: is on the table, well, they're going to be able 174 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: to say to the players as they finish this off. 175 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the CBA talks are going, well, 176 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know where the seventeenth game thing is. Looks like 177 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: the preseason's going to be shortened, looks like we may 178 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: expand the playoffs. Talk that the seventeenth game may be 179 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: a neutral sight game, which is good for the expansion 180 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: of the league, I think most people think. But the 181 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: improved safety numbers are something that I think they're going 182 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: to continue to try to sell. And clearly the league 183 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: has made it obvious in what they're doing that that 184 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: is top of mind to them. It's not just lip service. 185 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: They have done things and there has been progress. Absolutely 186 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that one percent. I think the league 187 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: is going to have to pick a lane a little 188 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: bit because they're starting to get to the point where 189 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: making sure that the game is exciting and engaging and 190 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: that fans want to be a part of it, and 191 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: making sure that the game is super safe and doing 192 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: everything they're kind of the lines are starting to get 193 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: really close together. And there's two kind of parallel things. Well, 194 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about how the fourth and fifteen thing. 195 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Is it a safer play, yes? Is it more exciting, 196 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: we hope, But there's some point where you have to 197 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: almost sacrifice, like the touchbacks, you have to sacrifice the 198 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: excitement for the safety or the safety for the excitement. 199 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: So the league at some point is going to have 200 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: to I don't want to say pick lame because I 201 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: think you can do both, but I think that the 202 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: margin of what you're going to have to cost from 203 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: one to the others starting to get a little bit smaller. 204 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: I think she makes a great point. Well, she makes 205 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: a great point, but let's not forget one thing. And 206 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: then this is true, and we've all been doing this 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: a long time and you've got to say it, but 208 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: this is still a violent game and people enjoy that 209 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: because there is a there's an element of danger in 210 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: this game that is makes it compelling. It really does. 211 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm saying that safety and is 212 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: a whole different thing. They've done a lot to improve it. 213 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I can go way back to when I 214 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: first started, and there was a lot of things that 215 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: we did that weren't safe, that were part of the game, 216 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: that were part of strategy. Also, I think the length 217 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: of the games is critical. I think if they're gonna 218 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: make seventeen games, the length of the game is going 219 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: to be critical. You know, we all watched the National 220 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: Championship game, right, you know that was a four hour game. 221 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: That was a four hour game, and that the game 222 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: was compelling, but could you could feel it watching it, 223 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: like Wow, this is taking a long time. And if 224 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: you've got seventeen games, I think shortening the games will 225 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: help a little bit. Even just the accumulation effect of 226 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: five or seven or eight minutes a game over a 227 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: seventeen game season, which would be an eighteen or nineteen 228 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: week season, would make a difference. One other thing too. 229 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: At this year's Pro Bowl officials, and I'm reading from 230 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: an ESPN stories that what I have, Yeah, ESPN story, 231 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Seyferd Pro Bowl officials will be instructed to use 232 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: a different standard for false start penalties on receivers who 233 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: are flexed at the line of scrimmage. It will not 234 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: be a false start if a receiver flinches or lifts 235 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: one foot off the ground, provided he resets for one 236 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: second and or keeps one foot on the ground. Well, 237 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: you know what that's for. No, that's for the Pro Bowl. 238 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: So it's not you know, because I've coached in Pro 239 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: Bowls before. The attention span of the players in a 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl practice and the attention span of players in 241 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl game zero mac. If I told you 242 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: about the Pro Bowl that I was at a couple 243 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: of years ago, it was still an evening game. It's 244 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: like ten o'clock at night. All the players just start 245 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: dancing to the music that they're playing in the stadium. 246 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: We were delayed for like twenty minutes because they couldn't 247 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: get players to stop dancing and reset. I love a 248 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: good dance. He loves a good dance routine, which little 249 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: laying ball and he's out there for the pick in 250 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: the grass and the outfield. Wait, yeah, to me, that's fine. 251 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: And so that rule is to I mean, if you're 252 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: they're not gonna call They never call a Pro Bowl tight. 253 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: They haven't in all the thirty four years I've been 254 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: around Pro Bowls. They're not. They're not gonna call it tight. 255 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: That's just to say it be awesome if they did. 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: If they started calling everything in a Pro Bowl, those 257 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: guys would revolt. They would just leave, they'd walk out, 258 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: they would just leave. Or first accepted penalty in this game, 259 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: first accepted penalty in the first half. We got time 260 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: for a quick Pro Bowl story. Of course, nineteen eighty eight, 261 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: we're coaching the Pro Bowl, and you know my linebacker crew, 262 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, Sam Mills, Uh, Michael Koefer, Uh, Lawrence Taylor 263 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Stop Koefer. Yeah, yes, he played. When he played at Tennessee, 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: there was another Mike Koefer on the team, if you 265 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: can believe that. He was from Chamblee, Georgia. He played 266 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: tight end, and so when when Mike Koefer made a tackle, 267 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: they would refer to him as Mike stop Koefer. And 268 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: when Mike Cofer on offense cart to pass, it was 269 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: Mike go covid. So that's a great story. No, not sorry, 270 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: that's a great addition to it. But anyway, at the time, 271 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: the winning team got fifteen thousand dollars, which was a 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of money back then in nineteen eighty eight, and 273 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: the losing team got five grand. All right, So there 274 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: was a difference, and especially if you brought a big 275 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: entourage over there, there's a big difference as as far 276 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: as to what you could pay for with fifteen grand 277 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: and five grand. And so I had a you know, 278 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I had a rotation of the players going in, you know, 279 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: to the game. And it was Michael Koeper's chance to 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: go in in the fourth quarter. And the game was tight, 281 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and I said, Michael, it's your turn. And Lawrence Taylor 282 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: started to run in and I grasp LT, No, it's 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: his turn. He turned and looked at me and said, 284 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you want you need ten grand. I need this ten 285 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: grand for all these people I got out here. You 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: want to win this game? I said, LT, you go in, Michael. 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: They were playing then, you know, Lawrence Taylor. No, now 288 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: it's a little different. Yes, what was Lawrence Taylor like 289 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: in practice? Kid? Just look? Mike Dickon was the head coach, okay, 290 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: And so Mike Dickon's first speech to the team was 291 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: and we were playing Buffalo was the AFC team was 292 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: coaching the AFC team. Marvel Lee he was coaching the 293 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: FC team. He said, Okay, I don't care what they're 294 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: doing with Buffalo. Here's what we're doing. You guys have 295 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: got a choice. You can either sleep in and then 296 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: we'll practice in the middle of the day and then 297 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: you can do what you want, or we can all 298 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: get up early, come meet practice, and then do whatever 299 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: you want the rest of the day, he said. I 300 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: want to play golf, he said, and I know most 301 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: of you do. So what do we vote for? Every 302 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: hand shot up early practice, early practice, so we would 303 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: get up, I mean we'd be gone and back coming 304 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: to practice when Marv Leavy's team was just leaving the 305 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: hotel to go practice. So yeah, we won advantage in 306 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: all right. So let's talk Titans now Titans in their 307 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: season in the AFC Championship game. Red Brian gonna start 308 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: with you. What's the most important thing that you believe 309 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: the Titans accomplished with their run to the AFC Championship Game. 310 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I believe, in a fundamental, basic level, the culture is established. 311 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: The thing I was amazed at in these last several 312 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: weeks of the regular season and going into the postseason 313 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: was their ability to fully believe in one another's abilities 314 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: on the field, practice, prep, play together at a high level, 315 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: no distractions, not too high, not too low, focused, dialed in. 316 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: And I think that started with Mike Vrabel at the top. 317 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: But the way that he has that culture set now 318 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: that success that they had will breed future success. I 319 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: think the Titans established credibility this season in a lot 320 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: of different ways. They started the season with good too great, 321 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: which is kind of a risk when you're basically saying 322 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: our goal is to improve in some way, and they 323 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: definitely did that, even though for a minute it kind 324 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: of looked like that was going to backfire. This team 325 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: really rallied, and I think Mike Vrabel established credibility with 326 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: his team that if you trust the process, this is 327 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: going to work out. I think that the Titans players 328 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: established credibility within the league that they are real NFL 329 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: football players who can actually make an impact in this league. 330 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: And I think the organization as a whole established credibility 331 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: within their fan base, both in Nashville and then wider 332 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: that this is a team that really is trying and 333 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: this isn't a team that's going to let you down, 334 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and this is a place that you can kind of 335 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: get excited about and be fired up about again. I 336 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: just got a message from Jim Rice in the ticket 337 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: office this morning, and they are having an unbelievable January 338 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: in terms of season tickets, like they haven't seen in 339 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: years and years and years. And I don't know that 340 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: it's like it was in January two thousand and after 341 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: the Music City miracle. That would be hard to match, 342 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: but they feel like it's their best January in terms 343 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: of modern within the you know, as long as this 344 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: group's been there, and hopefully the fan base will continue 345 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: to get those season tickets because I think the number 346 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: one goal for next year period and Vrabel touched on 347 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: it indirectly yesterday, this team needs to go eight no 348 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: at home. This team went four and four at home 349 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: this year. Okay, not great. Well, if you're six and 350 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: two your division champions. If you're seven and one, then 351 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: you're in a position that you're probably the number two seed, 352 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, so you're getting to buy. If you're if 353 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: you're eight, no, you're definitely the number two seed. You're 354 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: getting a buy. And you only have to go on 355 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the road for the AFC Championship game. I mean, and 356 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: that starts with the fan base, That starts with making 357 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: that play, with forcing out opposing fans, because I know 358 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: some people are going to sell their tickets. I mean, 359 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not trying to tell people what 360 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: to do. But this team had to prove it to 361 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: people by winning games in New England and Baltimore to 362 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: really prove to them we can play at this level. 363 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think fewer and fewer people are going to 364 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: sell their tickets because I think the people who are 365 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: jumping in right now are definitely not going to sell 366 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: their tickets because they have tightened fever for the first 367 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: time since two thousand and eight. Well, I mean, everybody's 368 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: hit on the exact I think we all have are 369 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: of the same mindset, which I mean and we're all right. Look, 370 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: organizations that have success National Football League, they're able to 371 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: establish an identity that not only in your building that 372 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: you understand, but all your counterparts in the league understand. 373 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: And that's what this run did. This was a magical 374 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: twelve week run. It really was, and it it put 375 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, it put the Titans, Amy Adams, Strunk, John Robinson, 376 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel and what this organization was about and for 377 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: the fan base, it put it out there to the 378 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: rest of the league, what is going on here is 379 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: for real? And then the only thing that really validates 380 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: anything in the National Football League is winning games. You 381 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: win games, and that's that's the validation. But to be 382 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: able to go on that run, and it was a 383 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: historic run, it was a historic run to get into 384 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: the playoffs after a two and four start. If we 385 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: would have made it to the Super Bowl, have been 386 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: the only team ever two and four to start like that, 387 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: because normally that's a death knew that. But I think 388 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: this this scent notice about what is going on here 389 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: as an organization. As I said, from Amy Adam Strunk 390 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: all the way through the through the top leadership and 391 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: then to the players and to the fans, that this 392 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: fan base was energized to a point of that I remember, 393 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: I remember the Titans. I mean, you know, to steel 394 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: a phrase, uh when I was coaching here. I mean 395 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: that that the all of the we were on the 396 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: road and so everybody, we were all on the road together. 397 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: And the way they came together on the road, believe 398 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was absolutely fabulous, It really was, 399 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: and it's it wasn't built on anything that was false. 400 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: It was built on because you had a tough, gritty 401 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: team that was winning against all odds well, and that's 402 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. I mean, Rhett, you've been 403 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: here for the entire time like I have. You grew 404 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: up here like I did. You you get it that 405 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: when you go two and fourteen and three and thirteen. 406 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you can hand out millions of dollars to 407 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: people at the gate, you know you, and they would 408 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: complain at that point because you gave it to him 409 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: in twenties. But when you're winning, everything you do is 410 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: right and you can build on those things. You can 411 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: take all the things you've been working on when you 412 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: were two and fourteen and three and thirteen and nine 413 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: and seven, and you can build on those things all 414 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: at once. It's like you become brilliant all at once 415 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: because of winning. It takes care of ninety eight percent 416 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: of things. And it's funny you should talk about that too, 417 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: because we all went through that five and twenty seven, 418 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: two years and it was rough, no doubt. And it's 419 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: the one thing it's really strange because the night they 420 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: wanted Baltimore, I had a very candid conversation with Taylor 421 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: to one and he said, you know what all I 422 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: keep thinking about is two and fourteen my rookie year, 423 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: in three and thirteen my second year, and how we've 424 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: just done everything we can to try to get to 425 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: this place, and I think it just makes it that 426 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: much sweeter, Which was surprising to me because he wasn't 427 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: joking and you know, cutting up like he normally is. 428 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: He was seriously contemplating where this thing has been, where 429 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: it's going, and how good it felt. Do you want 430 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: to wear a Titan shirt at two and fourteen? Do 431 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: you do you want to be out there and say 432 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: that's who I'm for that? Of course? I mean people 433 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: did they hung in there, a lot of a lot 434 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: of hardcore fans. Did everyone love every one of them 435 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: for it? But the reality is this the credibility. When 436 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: you went to New England and won, there was a 437 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: switch that was flipped right then, and then you followed 438 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: it up with a Baltimore win. Titans fans believed they 439 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: were going to beat Kansas City. Yeah, they truly. They 440 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: weren't hoping, they weren't wishing, they weren't dreaming. Suddenly they 441 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: had confidence in their team again. And to see all 442 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: these kids and the churches and the businesses and and 443 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: everybody wearing their Titans stuff on Friday. That's what it 444 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: was like twenty years ago. That's what it was like 445 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. And it comes from the 446 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: football team producing on the field and producing that credibility. 447 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: And I think that was the amazing part about this run. 448 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: In the last few weeks, and Coach Mack you touched 449 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: on it, it was like the old days. I mean, 450 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: businesses with their marquees and their signs with letters they 451 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: had to put up by hand, manually up there, tighten up, 452 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: Go Titans, whatever. The whole message it was everywhere, and 453 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: you're right, churches, schools, businesses, the men and of course 454 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: with social media now that was something that wasn't a 455 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: big deal back then. Sure everyone sending greetings and their 456 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: well wishes and Friday casual Friday at a business office 457 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: was wearing your Titans jersey or your garb, your gear. 458 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: That was super exciting. I know, I know in your 459 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: conversation that you had with Amy Adam Strunk last week 460 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: when you went to Houston, that was something that made 461 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: a lasting impression on her and I thought about it too. 462 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I was like, everywhere you go because she hadn't really 463 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: seen that because she was not involved with the team 464 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: before twenty fifteen outside of just being a fan. Really 465 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: she was certainly part of the family, and but she 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: didn't have that sort of involved in It was so 467 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: great to see her so excited, like one of those 468 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: young fans who they were experiencing it for the first time. 469 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: It was great. It was a great thing, all right, 470 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: coach mac, let's talk football. Okay, Dean Peas announces his retirement. 471 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator steps down. Does Mike Vrabel have to hire 472 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator with a similar philosophy to Dean Peas 473 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: to keep the defense from taking a step backward in 474 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Well, let's look. Dee Peas' philosophy was Mike 475 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Vrabel's philosophy. Those two philosophies, they were blended. That's why 476 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: he was the first person he called when he got 477 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: this job. He had a vision. He knew what he 478 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: wanted his defense to be like when he was a 479 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: head coach. It was the defense that he had played 480 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: in as the defense that he was familiar with. And 481 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: now they blended and so He's going to be very 482 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: deliberate in what he does here. Now he doesn't have 483 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: to do it exactly the same way, but it's going 484 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: to still have a huge piece of this because we 485 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: talk about all this success, A lot of this success 486 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: is because of the consistency that went on with the 487 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: message and also with what we were doing, with what 488 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: we were doing defensively. That had a lot to do 489 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: with his keep making Arthur Smith the offensive coordinator. He 490 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: wanted some continuity and consistency. And I've been around coaching changes. 491 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: I've been a head coach. I've changed, you know, but 492 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: you don't you look at the players that you have 493 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: coming back. What you really want to do is there's 494 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: always things you want to be new with, but you 495 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: still want to have a base. That's why this team 496 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: was so successful this year. They had a concrete base 497 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: that they worked from every day in practice. They had 498 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: a concrete base that they worked from every day in 499 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: the meeting rooms. So he will be very deliberate about this, 500 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: and he's going to go through an intensive interview process 501 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: with whoever he brings in. And it doesn't have to 502 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: be an exact huge branch of the Dean PS Mike Vrabeltree, 503 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: but it'll be part of it. All right, Well let 504 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: me ask you this then, So Rett name he helped 505 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: me here? I mean, we're seeing all the big names 506 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: who are being mentioned, the Wade Phillips and Romeo Crenell 507 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: and all of these guys. Don't zero in on one 508 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: of those dudes. Just just tell me, from a general standpoint, 509 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: would one of those kind of guys work philosophically or 510 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: does it have to be somebody who directly ties to 511 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Rabel It wouldn't have to be someway that's directly tied. Okay, 512 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: it would not have to be. But I go back 513 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: to the extensive interview process. I've interviewed coaches, you know, 514 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: and so when you sit down in this process, it's 515 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: not you know, say all right, you're gonna play, You're 516 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna play your corners, you know, seven yards off every time. Fine, 517 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: all right, we'll go to the That's not what you do. 518 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: You you sit down and you dig into daily philosophies 519 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: about how you're you know, how you're going to meet, 520 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: how you're going to present. Look, we've all been to practice. 521 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: You watch the progressive teaching that they go through. There's 522 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: a lot of things that he will want to be 523 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: sure he checks off of the boxes to check off 524 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: before he turns. And Mike Vrabel's always going to be 525 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: involved in this defense. Always know that. So it doesn't 526 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: have to be somebody exact, but it's going to be 527 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: somebody that is going to blend and fit what his 528 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: vision is because he's got a very clear vision of 529 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: what He had a clear vision when he got the 530 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: job of what he wants his defense to be, and 531 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: he's got a very clear vision what he wants it 532 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: to continue to be. So if one of those older 533 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: coaches could share that vision, you could hire one of 534 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: those older coaches. Absolutely, Okay. I think Coach Mac made 535 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: a good point right there at the end that as 536 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: long as Mike Vrabel is here, there's going to be 537 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: a threat of consistency throughout this defense because Vrabel is 538 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: so involved in the defense, he can't turn off his 539 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: defensive brain. I don't think he wants to. I mean, 540 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: he's still running around with the linebackers and everybody else 541 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: out there. He's such a big part of that side 542 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: of the ball specifically, that there will be a lot 543 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: of consistency just because he will still have such a 544 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: big hand in it, will some things look a little 545 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: bit different. Absolutely. Do you want someone that has established 546 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: credibility that Dean P's walked in with so that nothing 547 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: really shook him. Sure, but I think that the level 548 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: of consistency will probably be maintained just because Mike Vrabel 549 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: is still there. You make a good point, but you 550 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: know something about Vrabel that has impressed means Rabel's not 551 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: a hard hit. Vrabel doesn't think he knows everything about everything. 552 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: It would seem to me and chiming on this too, Coach, 553 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm want to ask ret first, but it would seem 554 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: to me if there's somebody who Vrabel listens to and 555 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: goes well, that would be interesting incorporating that into what 556 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: we're doing. It would see like that would almost be 557 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: appealing to him. Yeah, agreed, absolutely, Yes. I In what 558 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: little dealings I've had with Coach Vrabel, he seems certainly 559 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: open minded to things of those nature. And going off 560 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: of what we were talking about with an older, experienced 561 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he's got some talent in this building that 562 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: he could promote from within, just like he did with 563 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. Your guy Tyrone Mackenzie I'm sure he's got 564 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of avenues he can go at. 565 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: But but to Mike's point, Mike Vrabel, Varibel is very 566 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: very open minded. He's very open minded, and he's also 567 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: very cutting edge. And so with that, you have to 568 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: be a name he'll be. That's why I say when 569 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: I started, I said, the first adjective I used to 570 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: describe this process is deliberate. Sure, and part of that 571 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: deliberation is mining ideas from everybody that he meets with. Interesting. Yeah, 572 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna be fascinating to see where 573 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: he goes. The most obvious candidate would have been Carry 574 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Combs had he stayed, but he had obviously already committed 575 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: to go back to Ohio State. That had been reported 576 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: what weeks ago, Yeah, I mean a long time back 577 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: before the playoffs. Yeah, when Halfley got Boston College's head 578 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: coaching job, Combs was mentioned. He's from Ohio, He's an 579 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State guy. He's coached in that state for ever 580 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: and ever. I respect Vabel for not holding him up 581 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: on absolutely and that and that makes and let me 582 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: just talk about from the aspect of being a long 583 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: time assistant coach before I became higher up in the 584 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: coaching profession. That makes it this place attractive to assistant 585 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: coaches that want to come here, because then some head 586 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: coaches won't let you go and that that's a problem. 587 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's an issue, and they're they're rightfully. So 588 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: if you've got a contract, they don't have to let 589 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: you go. They really don't. And so when you know 590 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: there's a place that you're going to grow, but also 591 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: if that growth is read ignized and you have a 592 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: chance for career advancement, that you're not going to be 593 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: held back because of a technicality. And also because the 594 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: head coach is so comfortable in his own skin that 595 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: that's what makes it really good. So let me ask 596 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: you this. You've got a secondary opening, Yes, Carry Combs 597 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: not getting talked about what a loss that is. That's 598 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: a heck of a ball coach right there. Ohio State 599 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: has made a greade hire in Carry Combs, and I 600 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: think the four of us all have tremendous respect for him. 601 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: Just the new defensive coordinator bring a secondary coach with him. Well, 602 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: this potentially, I go back to deliberation. I mean, this 603 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: all plays into it as to what it is and 604 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: That's why he's not gonna be Mike Vrabel is not 605 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: going to be ready fire aim on these two hires. 606 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: He's not going to be This is going to be 607 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: a deliberate, deliberate process. Let's good talk, right there, Coach Mack. 608 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: This is why we have an NFL. Right yeah, all right, 609 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: Ret Brian favorite moment from the twenty nineteen Titans season. Okay, now, 610 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: this is where Amy's gonna bag on me because I'm 611 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: in Jim Watt's chair. He normally gives multiple answers, and 612 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: I have six answers. Yeah, I got multiple answers and 613 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: a couple of these things the act because he tried 614 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: to answers. Hey, now, let's just keep moving. So I'm 615 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: living vicariously in this chair for Jim Wyatt. Uh, I 616 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: have one regular season and one postseason. The regular season 617 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: moment for me was the first Kansas City game November tenth. 618 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: That's when I realized with Ryan Tannehill and where Derek 619 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: Henry was going, this offensive line was jelling finally, but 620 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: they can hang with just about anybody if they needed to, 621 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: the defense was doing its thing, and I just the 622 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: way that thing ended with Joshua Kalou that block field goal. 623 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that was fantastic. One of the better regular 624 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: season games you'll see at Nice Hunt Stadium. I'll never 625 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: forget that one. That was really neat. Uh. And obviously 626 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you know Patrick Mahomes wasn't back from the knee dislocation, 627 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: but I'm saying he didn't run for eight hundred yards either, 628 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, but uh, it was and it was a 629 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: chance for us to see him up close. That dude's 630 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Steph Curry on grass whatever NBA player. Great, 631 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: you want to plug into that there. And then my 632 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: other one was the postseason, and it would come as 633 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: no surprise to you, knowing me as long as you 634 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: have Foxborough and the win over the Patriots, as much 635 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: as I love the Patriots. But no, that was as well. 636 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: That's what's so impressive, Guilie, what a moment that was. 637 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: I mean, we were all in that booth, you were 638 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: down on the sideline's amy and when you saw that 639 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: pick six from Logan Ryan. I didn't even watch the 640 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: rest of the play because I didn't see any flags 641 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: and I just put my head in my hands and 642 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot believe they have taken these guys 643 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: to task. They have put them away. This is they're 644 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: going home and the Titans are moving forward. I'll never 645 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: forget that one because you and I've been up there 646 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: for you for several trips that were not successful, and 647 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: this would be correct. Yes, they've all not been successful. 648 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: We actually went to the old place they used to 649 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: be called Sullivan Stadium and blew a game up there 650 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight to Pete Carroll that we had 651 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: one Sullivan's. That was a horrible trip. But those were 652 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: two of my favorites from the twenty nineteen season. All right, Amy, 653 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: you get to go second. Well, Reet and I had 654 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: a mind meld thing because I picked both of those, 655 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: but specifically in that New England game, Mike vrabel belichicking 656 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick what might be my favorite thing that has 657 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty so far. It was so great. 658 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: It brought me so much joy to see Bill Belichick 659 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: coming fully unhinged on TV and there was nothing he 660 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: could do about it. He couldn't do anything. I just 661 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: thought it was so great. It showed how smart our coaches, 662 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: It showed it was savage. It was great. I loved 663 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: every second of it. It made me so happy Baltimore win. 664 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: Nobody anywhere in the football world or if anybody that 665 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: knew how to spell football, thought that we could do that. 666 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: And I was here in two thousand and eight as 667 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: a coach when they stole that thing from us here, 668 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: which is it's still a huge heartbreak for me and 669 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: for all all Titans fans. But that game, because they 670 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: were the it team, they were the it team, and 671 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: people were saying, well, you know, New England, and there 672 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: was talk before we played doing they're not quite the 673 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: New England of old, They're not this and that. But 674 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: that Baltimore win, that was a huge exorcism for me 675 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: to erase everything that was ever bad in my heart 676 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: for Baltimore because of what happened in two thousand eight 677 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: and the stunned silence in that stadium when we did 678 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: what we did that I'll never forget it. I'll never 679 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: forget it. And the other thing that was so cool 680 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: about it because if where we broadcast from, people can 681 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: come up and touch you like a high school press box, 682 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: they can come up and reach their hands in and 683 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: touch you. And to have Titans fans come up after 684 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: that game so happy. Christian Caposi, one of the you know, 685 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: one of the all time great interns ever and you 686 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: know his dad and granddad have been fans for a 687 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: thousand years. Come all the way up there, and just 688 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: the joy to see those people running up the steps 689 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: just to high five of us in the booth from 690 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: the stands. Never forget it. That was huge and amy 691 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: to see those fans for the first three quarters call 692 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the three of us everything but a cedar bush. And 693 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: then at the end, hey, good look in the playoffs 694 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: and that's like, wow, what a moment. We'll never forget it. 695 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Pretty great. It was an exorcism, no doubt, most improved 696 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: Titan of twenty nineteen. I'm cheating just a little bit. 697 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: I picked the offensive line as a whole. Yeah I 698 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: did well. Sorry you're getting you're getting five. You're welcome. 699 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: Uh sorry, but really think about it. Think about how 700 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: dramatically different the offensive line has been from the beginning 701 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: of the season to the end of the season. They're 702 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: supposed to move as one. I count them as one, 703 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They're dramatically improved, Mike. Every single one 704 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: of them got better. Every single one of them has 705 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: played better from the beginning of the year to the 706 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: end of the year. I see the disappointment in your eyes. 707 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: I stick by what I chose. Four of those dudes. 708 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: You're really getting paid. Okay, but how bad were they 709 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the sea? How horrific? But it 710 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: should have been The offensive line should have been good 711 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: from the start of the year. Yeah, but it wasn't. 712 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: Left tackle shouldn't get suspended. He can't let that happen. 713 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: He said it himself. I mean that, just no. But 714 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: when discussing improvement, we are going from bad to some 715 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: degree of bless that tighten tight. Look right there, the 716 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: offensive line, the offensive line exists as one. Somebody tell 717 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: me I'm wrong. I've listened to the OTP. I hear 718 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: these volleys. Coach Mac David Long, do better, David Long, 719 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: David Long. That's one player, Amy and David Long. Because 720 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: we needed him. We needed him, you know, because you know, 721 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: because Jon got Jon got knicked up, Rashaan got knicked up. 722 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: You know, we needed him. And he not only he 723 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: not only filled space, he made plays. And to watch that, 724 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: and again I go clear back to my roots of 725 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: developing linebackers. I know how hard it is for a 726 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: young player to come into this league, especially when he 727 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: was a sea ball get ball guy at West Virginia, 728 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: which I mean he didn't read anything. All he did 729 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: was wherever the ball was. That's where he ran too, 730 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: regardless of what else was going on. The nuances that 731 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: it takes in the National Football League, especially in this defense. 732 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: As we talked about the intricacies of this defense, the 733 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: multiplicity of fronts, what the linebackers have to do. I 734 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: really really thought that kid. I know he did. I 735 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: watched him. He improved, and that's a huge plus for him. 736 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: It's a huge it's a huge plus for Tyrone McKenzie. 737 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: It's a huge plus for Wesley Woodyard and Rashaun Evans 738 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: and Jayon Brown of bringing him along so that he 739 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: was a vital part in my favorite game in Baltimore, 740 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: that first fourth down stop. That was really a technically 741 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: great play by an inside linebacker against a pretty complicated 742 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: play to diagnose. And where did the Titans get him? 743 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: Six round? Six round? That's right? Where did that pick 744 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: come from? The Ryan Tannehill trade? That's right? How about 745 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: that John Robinson? That's pretty good. Ret Brian most improved 746 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: tighten I have we're gonna say the punt team, No, 747 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: I have one in all three phases. Okay, we have 748 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: one in all three phases. Great. Ah, Well, I think 749 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: he's three year important and I don't think you'll disagree. Okay, 750 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: John hu Smith on offense, Okay, and you would say, yeah, 751 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: of course he had more catches, more yards, tied his 752 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: touchdowns because Delanny Walker's pent out, but he's a better 753 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: blocker lined up in the backfield, had a gate a 754 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: touchdown saving tackle of Whitney Merciless, ran a dude down, 755 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: ran a hundred yards to knock a dude down before 756 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: he got in them end zone. Much better there, all 757 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: coming off in ACL search correct. On defense, de Kwon Jones, 758 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: de Kwon Jones. When you look at those goal line 759 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: stay in those fourth down stops. He dropped back in 760 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: coverage a few times, quietly, did a lot of the 761 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: dirty work in this and I think he had a 762 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: dog on near career year. I think he had a 763 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: really nice showing. And then on special teams. Dane Crookshank. 764 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: Dan Crookshanks has it proved himself to make big You 765 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: call him big play Dane for a reason. That dude 766 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: is everywhere on kick coverage, block and stuff. Whatever. Those 767 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: three cats really added to this Titans roster in twenty nineteen. 768 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: They added extra stuff, all right. So the Titans have 769 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth overall pick in the draft, so lois 770 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: they've picked since Kenny Britt was selected in two thousand 771 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: and nine. To believe, it's thirteen and three year coming 772 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: off of So here's my question. Don't have to give 773 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: me all the scenarios unless you're just dying too, but 774 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: just for fun, do the Titans does John Robinson end 775 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: up making that pick at number twenty nine? Dave McGinnis, 776 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: he'll be wheeling and dealing. So you're saying, no, Will 777 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: he trades down to get him a couple of dudes 778 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: he likes later on, or he trades up? Think I 779 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: don't think he trades up. I don't think so, I said, 780 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: and that's what I say too. I said that he 781 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: could go. He could go a lot of directions at 782 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Sometimes you find somebody who desperately or you 783 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: get in that range, like if you're twenty five twenty six, 784 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: you get somebody who desperately wants to get out, and 785 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: the price there to get out is not bad if 786 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: there's a Rashaun Evans there, or a Harold Landry there 787 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: or that type of player. I love the football season 788 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 1: with this team because of what Mike Vrabel is and 789 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: you know what the atmosphere is that Amy Adam Strunks 790 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: has filtered throughout this building. I love draft season because 791 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: of John Robins. Oh, I know. I think he is 792 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: going to be so exciting between now in March eighteenth, 793 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seems to be the number of potential free agents. Now, 794 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that guys won't retire, he won't decide 795 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: to retain certain guys. Normally, an NFL team turns over 796 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: anywhere from twelve to eighteen players in an offseason roughly 797 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: a year, roughly a quarter to a third. I think 798 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna probably be more towards that third this year 799 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: because of where he is contractually with so many different 800 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: players and how he fits the pieces together. It's going 801 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: to be fascinated. It's going to be so fun to watch. 802 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: Do you have otpques? I do have otp qus all right, 803 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: so you can do this. Tell people how they could 804 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: submit an otpqu. So if you go to Titans online 805 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: dot com slash otp Q. You can type in your 806 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: questions and we will ask them here on the program. 807 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: So this first one comes from Michael in Phillipsburg, New Jersey. 808 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: He asked, with the success of the team this year, 809 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: do you think the NFL will give the Titans more 810 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: primetime games? More than just our annual Thursday Night or 811 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: against the Jazz the annual Thursday night Jaguars Bowl game 812 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: that they have every right? My answers, yes, Yeah, absolutely, 813 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. YE may get a 814 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: couple of Monday nighters out of this deal. There you go, 815 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: all right, Michael, Sunday night even they sound like late 816 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: nights for me. All right, Brian, Brian from Eagle Colorado. 817 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: There you go, Colorado. Hello, you're on the air. You're 818 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: on the air for Betty White. Go ahead. Why do 819 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: teams fly in the day before the game rather than 820 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: the team flying to whatever location as soon as possible 821 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: to get adjusted to the area. I understand the value 822 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: of sleeping in your own bed, the comfort of your 823 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: own home, everything like that, but I feel like traveling 824 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: the day before the game is a massive hit to 825 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: your energy, your comfort level. I know there's a reason 826 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: I just can't figure out what it is. Routine. You 827 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: need a routine, you need, you need your preparation at 828 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: home as long as you can. You need as little 829 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: time in the air as you can get. We're fortunate 830 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: because we're pretty centrally located here, so there's not a 831 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: lot I've coached on the West Coast before, which you 832 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: have to leave two days before because of the time change, 833 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: and sometimes two hour but sometimes three hours depending on 834 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: what time of year it is. That's brutal, okay, So, 835 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: but you want as little as possible to change. That's 836 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 1: why Mike Vrabel gets into where we go every time 837 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: at around four o'clock, four o'clock local time, wherever we are, 838 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: he gets in there. Routine is so vital creatures of 839 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: habit for a football team, for a professional football team, 840 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: it's just it's vital. That's exactly why. And he did 841 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: something wild this year that had never happened since I've 842 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 1: been here. We went to Oakland leaving at normal time, 843 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: which was beautiful. It was beautiful. Normally we've done Fridays 844 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: in the early in the morning to get there to 845 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: be there in the afternoon. We've done after practice on 846 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: Friday we've gone Friday night, We've gone first thing Saturday morning. 847 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: Had never done it this way and it was his 848 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: whole thing. He told the ops guys, he said, why 849 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: don't we just go normal time? And they're like, great, 850 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: makes their life so much easier. And let me just 851 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: tell you from inside the walls football aspect, when you 852 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: have to pick up and move all your meeting stuff 853 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: and have a different meeting at a different place, it 854 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: disrupts everything that you're doing. It really does that. When 855 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: when I heard that he was going to do that, 856 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: I loved it. I mean that's what I tried to 857 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: do as a head coach. I mean that's vital. And 858 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: here's what else that is. When you do that, you 859 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: trust your players. You're trusting your players to believe in 860 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: the process. You trust your players to believe in the 861 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: process when you do that. And the other thing you 862 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: say is it's nothing special to go anywhere to play. 863 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: We've got a system, we've got a process and wherever 864 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: we go, our process will work. That was big this year, too. 865 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: Great point. Here's the last otp Q. This is Robert 866 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: from Scotland. He says, I don't know about you guys, 867 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: but before a game, I get super nervous. How do 868 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 1: you guys and the players manage your nerves before a game? 869 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: Cutting up in the booth, cracking jokes. It's the only 870 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: way I know how. It's all. That's all I've ever done. 871 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,479 Speaker 1: Uh And some games it's more nerve racking than others. 872 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: In this playoff r I'm um, I just did more 873 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: of the same. I didn't. I'd never I think I've 874 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: been doing this long enough with Mike that I'm like, 875 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: you know what, wherever this goes, whatever happens, I'm just 876 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna ride with it. I'm not gonna It's not that 877 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm not invested. I just I've been disappointed before. Let's 878 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: just ride. Let's just see where this thing goes. And 879 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: it went pretty far and it was fun. It was fun. 880 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: You know, how do you handle it? Coach? I mean, 881 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: you've done it from all angles. Now, I've done it 882 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: from I've done it from all angles. And I've never 883 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: ever Mike Dick again. I'd go back to Mike Dick 884 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: a lot, because that was we love it when you 885 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: go back, because because the first this would be awesome, 886 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 1: the first game that I had ever coached for real 887 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: in the National Football League was against Cleveland and they 888 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: were coming off being the World champions, and you know, 889 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: he could kind of tell a little bit that I 890 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: was a little bit and he said, kid, the only 891 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: reason you ever got to be nervous is if you're 892 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: not prepared. Are you prepared? I said, yes, sir. Then 893 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: he said, don't be nervous. You can be as excited 894 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: as you want to be, but don't ever be nervous 895 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: if you're prepared. And so the message was just get prepared. 896 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: I've never and since then, I was never nervous before 897 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: a game. I was excited. I anticipated it, but never 898 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: nervous because you do your work, you put your work 899 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: in and then you just let it go. Are you nervous? Yes, 900 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm a mess um, both from a football 901 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: standpoint and just stay wanting to have a good show. 902 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: I mean, for us as broadcasters, we kind of have 903 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: the game within the game that we're trying to do, 904 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: and so just wanting everything to go well and make 905 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: sure that you're prepared for every scenario that could come, 906 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: which down on the field could be anything. But oh yeah, 907 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: I definitely get nervous. But I'm a superstitious maniac. So 908 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: somehow being able to cling onto those weird superstitions help 909 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm doing something. I channel my energy. 910 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: I guess nice. Yeah, do you get nervous my key 911 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: terrified or at least you're honest. Yeah, yep, I'm terrified. 912 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: I feel exactly the way I did before I played 913 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: several years ago. What I love to do? You know, 914 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: because Amy, I mean, Amy wears her emotions on her face. 915 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean just it's just out there and I could tell. 916 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: And so when I first started doing this three years ago, 917 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: I could. I could see her sitting on the you know, 918 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: I could when you come up in the booth. I finally, 919 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: how is it, Amy? Just keep your powder dry. This 920 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,800 Speaker 1: is going to happen and we're gonna be fine. It's okay, 921 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: It's okay, it'll be fine. No, it's good. Nervous, it's 922 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: like excited, anticipating, nervous, but like, especially during these playoff games, 923 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: who was but not the greatest feeling in the world 924 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: when the stakes start app Look that you. You can't 925 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: buy that anywhere in the world. The best thing about 926 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: this job, period is right before opening kickof, because I 927 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: still feel the exact same way I did when I 928 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: was covering the opening kickoff, and it's it's so unbelievable 929 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: to at this age to get to have that feeling 930 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: again in the pit of your stomach, because when you 931 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 1: go flying down there the first time and you don't 932 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, or where somebody's gonna hit you, 933 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: or maybe you're gonna be able to light somebody up, 934 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: or you don't know what's gonna happen, but you know 935 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of crazy. I mean, that's that's 936 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 1: taking the roller coaster through the first turn as you 937 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,320 Speaker 1: go out of the station, you know, And that's the 938 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: feeling that I have. Well, and that's and I love it. 939 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: I love it. I love being that scared that way. Well, 940 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean just just the excitement that it brings and 941 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: the and the adrillin push that it is and we 942 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: experienced it to a great level and we're going to 943 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: go to greater levels with it. But just going back 944 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: to how we started this OTP, the excitement of this 945 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: fan base when they showed up out of town and 946 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: then we would all go do those radio shows and 947 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: we would all be in I mean, that is what 948 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: this is all about. What they don't know is we 949 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: were more excited to see them, yep, than they want. 950 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: That's what I would. I wanted to hug everyone up. 951 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: What I did you Actually they would. They would all 952 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: start out with thank you, and I would no thank you. 953 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 1: Time for What's Brewing? Brought to you by the Great 954 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: Taste plant based beyond Sausage Sandwich from Duncan. It's here 955 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: with ten grams and beyond sausage plant based protein in 956 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: between a toasted English muffin and delicious egg and cheese. 957 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: Duncan has created a brand new way to start your day, 958 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: so you can add a plant based boost to your mornings. 959 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: America runs on Duncan. New Guy gets to go first. 960 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: What's brewing? Rhett Brian from Titans Radio? What is brewing? 961 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: In your mind? You know? As the guys were cleaning 962 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: out their lockers this week, the one guy I wanted 963 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to and I knew I wouldn't see him, 964 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 1: but I wanted to was Marcus Mariota. And I put 965 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 1: something out on Twitter about it last night. There's about 966 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred likes on it. People are in the Titans world. 967 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 1: Titans fans kind of have the same sentiment I do. 968 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: That's the part of this that's hard for me is 969 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: the abrupt stop of the season when it's over. I 970 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: can imagine what it's like for them as players. But 971 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota probably one of the most popular Titans ever. 972 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: What an exciting time it was to see him drafted 973 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: second overall all those years ago. About all the incredible 974 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: moments he brought to this franchise. Throw four touchdowns in 975 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 1: his first game and a route over Tampa Bay h 976 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: the eighty seven yard run for a touchdown against Jacksonville 977 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium, the tip pass that was batted back 978 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 1: to himself that he caught in the you know, playoffs 979 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: two years ago in Kansas City. And that guy took 980 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: quite a beating over that time. And I think he 981 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: deserves all of our thanks and gratitude for the kind 982 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: of player that he was for this organization and for 983 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: the person that he is, which I believe him to 984 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: believe to be a Hall of Fame type person. You 985 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: won't find a better, most, great, more gracious, grounded person. 986 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to say thanks, Marcus Mariota for 987 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: all you did for the Titans and helping get this 988 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: thing back in the right direction. What a fantastic person. 989 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: Very good red you took Amy's you didn't take well done, 990 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: well said, and I think we all agree. Well, my 991 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: first is a Duncan themed your first thought, I might 992 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: have two, maybe one, one point five. You're gonna say 993 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: the whole teams most improved. Okay, will you be cool? 994 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna apologize to you in like thirty seconds. So 995 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: for years people don't know this about Mike Keith, but 996 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: he has a very specific coffee order. He gets the 997 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 1: blueberry coffee at Duncan, and you're selling my coffee order 998 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: out in front of Yeah, I am doing that again. 999 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: I told you to stop because I'm going to apologize 1000 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: to I'm less inclined to do it the more you 1001 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: keep coming at me. So Mike Keith gets this coffee order, 1002 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: and for years I have made fun of him for 1003 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: drinking fruity coffee because A I thought it sounded gross 1004 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 1: and B because I call it fruity coffee. See, like, 1005 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: you don't see that that's going to be a problem 1006 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: for me down the line. Again, I'm building two an 1007 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: apology Mike. So the other day I'm driving through Duncan 1008 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: and I had a gift card that I got for Christmas, 1009 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: so it felt like a free coffee and so I 1010 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: ordered Mike's fruity coffee because it smells like pie and 1011 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: you know what, it is delicious. So, Mike Keith, I 1012 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 1: apologize for making fun of your coffee order for all 1013 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: of these years. Duncan blueberry coffee is delicious. I've got 1014 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: it right here for telling the whole world. Coe. That 1015 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: is so great of you. Amy, thank you for that apology. 1016 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sorry for that. I'm not sorry for that 1017 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: very bad handed I'm get ready to start selling you out. 1018 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: Remember I go last. I am sorry for making fun 1019 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: of you. Your coffee order is delicius. Are you done? Yeah? Okay, 1020 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: Coach Mac. What's brewing with you? The Titans are back 1021 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: on the national stage. That's what's brewing with me. I 1022 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: mean not just not just here, not just locally. I 1023 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: mean that phone of mine goes to a lot of 1024 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: places and a lot of people come into that look 1025 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: in the league, just the Titans, and they did it. 1026 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: We were on the national stage because of the draft, 1027 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: but that was the draft. We are on the national 1028 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,760 Speaker 1: screen now because we won big games at big moments 1029 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: that's what you want as a franchise, that's what you want. 1030 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: What's brewing with me is history, and I want to 1031 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: talk about the Tennessee and its history. The Tennessee In 1032 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: is one of the great newspapers in our country. In 1033 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: the age where newspapers were very much the king of everything, 1034 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: the Tennessee In was right at the top of the 1035 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: list with everybody nationwide, largely because of one man, John Siginthaler. 1036 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: John Siginthaler was in charge of the Tennessee and John 1037 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: Siginthaler was brilliant. He was a connector in terms of people. 1038 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean he knew everybody. He had coach Max Rolodex 1039 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: and then some, which is hard to believe. He was 1040 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: also fearless and he brought people to write for the 1041 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee and men and women who he expected to do 1042 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: the same sorts of things. And from his development he 1043 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: brought about lions. There were lions in this community that 1044 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: wrote for the Tennessee and that were not just impactful 1045 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville and Middle Tennessee in the state, but in 1046 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: the South. And that's why John Sigenthaler's Tennessee and was 1047 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: such a big deal. David Clymer was one of those lions. 1048 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: David Climber went to work for the Tennessee and ended 1049 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: up writing there for forty one years. He wrote sports, 1050 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: but he could have written anything, because his mind and 1051 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: his wit and his ability to adapt would have given 1052 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: him the ability to tell a story in any part 1053 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: of life. And that was truly his secret. He was 1054 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 1: a great writer. He was a great reporter. He could 1055 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: source things like nobody's business. He was a fantastic interviewer. 1056 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: But the thing that made him the five tool player 1057 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: was his ability to tell stories. And when you read 1058 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: a story that he wrote or a column that he wrote, 1059 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: he gave you something that you didn't get anywhere else. 1060 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: I started reading him in high school, and when I 1061 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: went to the University of Tennessee, David Climber was on 1062 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: the beat there and I followed him everywhere. I watched 1063 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: what he did. I got to know him, I got 1064 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: advice from him, I got chided by him. He stood 1065 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: up for me to people who could have kicked me around. 1066 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: He taught me how you be a professional in every way, 1067 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: shape and form. He was a lion, one of John 1068 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: Sigenthaler's great lions over the history of the Tennessee in 1069 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: an all time great The only thing he didn't do 1070 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: well He may have been the worst self promoter in 1071 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: the history of media. I sat down in the mid 1072 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties and wrote him a letter to thank him 1073 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: for everything he did for me, and to thank him 1074 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: for taking me under his wing and teaching me how 1075 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: to be a professional. When I saw him for the 1076 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: first time after he received that letter, the first thing 1077 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: he said was what the hell was that? And then 1078 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: and then he stopped and he patted me on the 1079 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: back and he said, seriously, I appreciate it. Guy couldn't 1080 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,919 Speaker 1: take a compliment for anything, but he did everything else well. 1081 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: The other thing he did too, that's really important to 1082 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: the OTP that you don't know, most likely is that 1083 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: David Climber was one of the first people who believed 1084 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: the NFL could work in this part of the country. 1085 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Probably will not surprise some of you to learn there 1086 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of people who did not believe that. 1087 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: There were people at the Tennessee and who did not 1088 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: believe that. They did not believe that public funds should 1089 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: go towards building a stadium. They didn't see what the 1090 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: value you would be. They thought it was a waste 1091 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: of time, and they wrote it. I called him when 1092 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: word leaked out that Bud Adams was going to move 1093 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: the team here, and I said, can this happened? What 1094 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: I was asking him was can the Nashville brass pull 1095 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: this together? Can the leadership pull this together? He believed 1096 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: in Phil Brettison, and he said, I think it's going 1097 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: to happen, And he said so. David Climber thought Nashville 1098 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: was more than the Nashville of nineteen to eighty five 1099 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: and nineteen ninety five. He thought it could be more. 1100 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: I have no idea if he thought it would be 1101 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: what it is today, but he believed that it could happen, 1102 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 1: and he said so. And he also did something else. 1103 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: When I was up for this job, which I did 1104 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: not deserve, he put a word in for me. And 1105 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that that word mattered. We 1106 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: lost David Climber on Sunday to cancer. He had just 1107 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: been diagnosed weeks ago. It should not have got down 1108 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: this way. And for the people at the Tennessee and 1109 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: who love him, for his family, and most specifically for 1110 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: his wife Rebecca, we are so sorry. But we were 1111 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: all better for having had him here. Mister Sigenthaler certainly 1112 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: is proud of him, and I have a feeling they 1113 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: have already had a discussion, and mister Bibb is there 1114 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and all of those great lions from the Tennessee and 1115 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: are with him, and they are sharing a laugh and 1116 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: telling a story and watching all of this. But it's 1117 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: only sort of fitting in an ironic way that the 1118 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans were playing for the AFC Championship for a 1119 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: trip to the super Bowl on the day we lost 1120 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: a guy who believed that this would work here and 1121 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: he was influential at that point and it was a 1122 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: big deal and he was a big deal to a 1123 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: lot of people. We are so sorry David Clember has 1124 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: been lost at age sixty six. It is way too early. 1125 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: He was a lion And even if you have no 1126 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: idea who I'm talking about, trust me, David Climber was 1127 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: one of the great frette. Brian amy Wells, Dave McGinnis, 1128 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Mike Key says thanks for listening to the OTP