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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to another episode. I'm Sound King

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Speaker 1: and I'm Amelia Hartford, and today we have a personal

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Speaker 1: hero of mine. I've been waiting to meet this gentleman

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, most kids play with legos, but at eight

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Speaker 2: years old, our guest was building engines in his dad's shop.

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Speaker 1: He is a true artisan and a lover of the

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Speaker 1: three fifty six Porsche, one of my favorite cars. And

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Speaker 1: it's inspirational because he is part of Limbs for Life charity.

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Speaker 1: He is truly dedicated and has a great, humble attitude.

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Speaker 2: And he has such a crazy, amazing story and he

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Speaker 2: builds these incredible classic Porschas and he's been doing it

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Speaker 2: his entire life.

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Speaker 1: And so, without further ado.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to welcome Rod Emory.

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Speaker 1: Did you drive your Gray GT three over here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The one that you got rear ended years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was on the two ten on the way the

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Speaker 4: Pomona Swap Meet and got rear ended. My son and

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Speaker 4: I were in the carpool lane and a single driver

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Speaker 4: in a Ford truck hit us at about forty and

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Speaker 4: we were stopped.

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Speaker 3: So it was a good hit.

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Speaker 2: Did it total it?

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Speaker 4: No? I mean I could have had them total it,

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Speaker 4: but for me, it was it was more about just

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love that car and I didn't want

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Speaker 4: it to go get crushed.

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Speaker 1: So you know that car and that post you did, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you got rear ended, it was a defining moment

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Speaker 1: of what my impression of you today is. And I

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Speaker 1: actually took that as like a huge lesson that post,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I'm around all these car folks and

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Speaker 1: some of their perspective and their energy is like super

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Speaker 1: toxic and ve right, so you know, I'll be around

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Speaker 1: somebody and like, you know, somebody will like lean on

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Speaker 1: their car. There's you know, there's a little ding by

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Speaker 1: their kid, and they flip out like it's like the

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Speaker 1: end of the world, and it's like, oh, dare you

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Speaker 1: touch my car? You're like, you know how much this

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Speaker 1: is worth? And your post was I don't remember verbatim,

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Speaker 1: but it was like, you know, to paraphrase, it was

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Speaker 1: something like, you know, it's just the car. At the

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Speaker 1: end the day, this sucks, but it's just the car.

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Speaker 1: I still have my health. No one got hurt, ye,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, that's just a great attitude, and

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Speaker 1: that's probably like a two hundred thousand dollars car, quarter

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Speaker 1: million dollar car. And I was like, this says a

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Speaker 1: lot about who mister Emory is because you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just a great perspective. It is like a great teaching moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware.

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Speaker 4: Of that, not really, you know, I just it's just

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Speaker 4: kind of who I am. And you know, I mean

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Speaker 4: these cars to me, even the cars that I build.

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Speaker 4: You know, sure I make a living, but for me,

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Speaker 4: it's really about connecting with people and helping people enjoy

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Speaker 4: the cars themselves. You know. That's why you know you

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Speaker 4: asked did it get totaled?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't about the value of the car to me.

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Speaker 4: It was about the connection I have with the car

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Speaker 4: and the memories that I've made with my wife and kids.

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Speaker 4: And also that car had a special purpose and meaning

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Speaker 4: for me. You know, we go through trials and ups

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Speaker 4: carrot for me that kind of drove me through a

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Speaker 4: lot of like trials, I guess, you know. I mean

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Speaker 4: I grew up just like every young boy or young

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Speaker 4: girl that is into cars, wanting to be a race

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Speaker 4: car driver. I grew up racing off road and motocross

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Speaker 4: and wanted to be that race car driver, but didn't

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Speaker 4: have the money to do it. Didn't have the parents

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Speaker 4: with deep pockets, and you know, just ground hard like

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Speaker 4: all through high school. And the business that I built

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Speaker 4: starting in like the late eighties early nineties, was so

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Speaker 4: them racing. And it was just a way for me

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Speaker 4: so we would we provided track support and transportation and

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Speaker 4: built this great business. I had, you know, thirty clientsients

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Speaker 4: that want you know, that had successful businesses, you know,

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Speaker 4: billion dollar companies. But then the economy took a big shit,

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Speaker 4: as you know, like in two thousand and eight, right,

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Speaker 4: and everything changed, and everybody's perspective changed, and my business

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Speaker 4: changed dramatically. Most of them stopped racing, not because they

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Speaker 4: couldn't afford it, but it was more of a social responsibility,

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Speaker 4: just you know, how can you lay people off? How

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Speaker 4: can you start cutting your business and then on the weekends,

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Speaker 4: you know, go and spend ten grand or fifteen grand,

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Speaker 4: have rot Emory take you racing, you know. And so

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Speaker 4: overnight the business changed and I was forced to make

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Speaker 4: on vintage racing, track support and hospitality. So I was

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Speaker 4: forced to, you know, just retool my business. And luckily

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Speaker 4: and you know, and just kind of regrouped.

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Speaker 2: That was all a very quick decision to make. Then

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Speaker 2: selling all the trucks and having to force that pivot, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was really looking out from my employees, looking

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Speaker 4: out for my family and just saying, look, you know,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't letting my ego. I need to you know,

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Speaker 4: be the business guy with my racing and my trucks.

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Speaker 4: It was more about like kind of survival and pivot

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Speaker 4: and kind of regear up. And that's when our business

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Speaker 4: flipped from being focused on vintage race cars and taking

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Speaker 3: And it took me.

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Speaker 4: You know a few years I also transitioned from Oregon

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Speaker 4: back here to California where I grew up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before you continue, I want to know how you

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Speaker 1: got into the three fifty six because I that is

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Speaker 1: my favorite favorite Porsche ever made, and I just i'd

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Speaker 1: love the way it looks, and because I love that

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Speaker 1: car so much, it's how I actually discovered Rod Emory

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Speaker 1: and your pieces of art. I don't consider them cars.

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Speaker 1: I consider them like moving art. So give us the

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Speaker 1: origin story of how that love affair began.

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Speaker 3: For sure, Yeah, it really predates me. You know.

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Speaker 4: It kind of goes back to my grandfather and my father.

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Speaker 4: So my grandfather was Neil Emery. He's in the hot

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Speaker 4: Rod Hall of Fame, and he was one of the pioneers,

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Speaker 4: really the pioneer of what you call channeling and sectioning

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Speaker 4: an American hot rod. So you know, everybody talks about

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Speaker 4: chopping the top, you know, making the windshield smaller. My

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Speaker 4: grandfather kind of took the harder route to do the work,

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Speaker 4: and he would channel it, so drop the body over

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Speaker 4: the frame and he would section it, which is like

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Speaker 4: if you've got a door that's like thirty six inches thick,

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Speaker 4: he'd take four or five inches out of it and

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Speaker 4: car thinner. That's called sectioning. So he had a shop

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Speaker 4: in Burbank. They were focused on hot rotting. And you

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Speaker 4: know the car the belly Tanker that Bruce Meyer has,

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Speaker 4: it's the SoCal Belly Tanker. It's a land speed record

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Speaker 4: of an airplane, so it's kind of bullet shaped. There

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Speaker 4: was that car, and then it was a car called

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Speaker 4: the so Cal Streamliner that my grandfather built in the

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Speaker 4: the body. So he was a craftsman his cars. You know,

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Speaker 3: So that was his business.

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Speaker 4: And then in the sixties he saw the kind of

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Speaker 4: So he went to work for Porsche in nineteen sixty two,

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Speaker 4: And so when I was born in seventy four, I

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Speaker 4: me home in. So you'd think I'd be into nine

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Speaker 2: Wait, just a sidestep. Was it your dad or your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad built the first Baja bug where you

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Speaker 4: He rolled it into the body shop where my grandfather

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Speaker 2: And they did they.

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Speaker 4: And it was amazing. So it was on all the

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Speaker 2: And we should probably explain what baja is if you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a Baja bug is a Volkswagen Beetle that you know,

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Speaker 4: ultimately people started racing them, you know, in the Baja

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Speaker 2: Thousand, primarily off road open the desert style racing exactly.

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Speaker 4: But my dad, he was the parts manager at the dealership,

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Speaker 4: and then he had this idea. You know, you got

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Speaker 4: you know, would say, okay, you got to buy this car,

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Speaker 4: But the models were changing so much, so they'd take

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Speaker 2: They were a new ports would love to do that today.

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Speaker 4: And the warehouse was filling up literally spilling over. Like

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Speaker 4: it into a back room, and when that room was full,

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, imagine this is nineteen late sixties, early seventies,

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Speaker 4: and imagine all the parts from the three fifty sixes

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Speaker 4: and the early nine to elevens, even some like race

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Speaker 4: car stuff like the spiders, and some of that being

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Speaker 4: warehouses in the United States. So my dad went to Volkswagen,

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Speaker 4: who was organizing all this stuff and Porscha, and said,

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Speaker 4: I want to buy all of what they considered then

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Speaker 4: distributor obsolescence. Porsche sold in, you know, all these parts

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Speaker 4: Well, my fifty three, the car that I built for myself,

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Speaker 4: part of me was leaving my hands. But it had

440
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 4: just raised one hundred and eighty thousand dollars and the

441
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 4: foundation took that money and used it to put limbs

442
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 4: on sixty people.

443
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

444
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 3: So it's hard to explain the feeling.

445
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 4: But when you know deep down inside that you can

446
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: positively impact that many people with giving up a material object,

447
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 4: it changes you and it changes you for life at

448
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 4: the core.

449
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: So the very first car I ever built, that's where

450
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: it went.

451
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: Wow.

452
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: The guy that won the car had bought one one

453
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 4: hundred dollars raffle ticket really and I think from some

454
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 4: guys in Colorado that had a VW shop and I

455
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: but I delivered the car to him. He kept it

456
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 4: for a couple of years and then he sold it

457
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 4: to a guy up in the northeast.

458
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 3: And I'm still in contact.

459
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: With him, so I know that I was going to

460
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: ask if you know where that car is.

461
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 3: I know where the car's at. The guy.

462
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent unchanged. The guy drives it all

463
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 4: the time. It even still has my name on. I mean,

464
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: it hasn't changed at all. Like my name's hand lettered

465
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 4: on the driver's door. My son Zane's name is hand

466
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: lettered on the passenger door because they used to go

467
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 4: do rallies and events with me in it.

468
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 3: But the car's exactly like it was.

469
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: It's nice to know that someone's enjoying it today.

470
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

471
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 4: So it's still out there in the Porsche community and

472
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: getting used.

473
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: Beautiful.

474
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: Is the foundation still around today?

475
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: It is?

476
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that that was a big part of our

477
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 4: life from like two thousand and four until about twenty

478
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 4: ten or eleven, was working with the foundation and raising

479
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 4: money and helping them just gain awareness. And Chris Ridgeway,

480
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 4: my buddy that I got him into business transporting cars.

481
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 4: So I mean he still works with me every day

482
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: like he's he goes to all the races with us.

483
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 4: He transports cars all over the country and he's got

484
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 4: a big semi trailers and you know.

485
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: So beautiful. That's a great story.

486
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, losing a first car. I mean, I don't know

487
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 2: if you still have your first car sung.

488
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad I don't.

489
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: But losing my first car, it was a very emotional

490
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: experience for me because you build this relationship with this

491
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: piece of metal that you know, you have all these

492
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: crazy memories that go along with it, and you really

493
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: form this bond with this vehicle. So it's it's a

494
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: very emotional thing and I didn't realize it until I

495
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: had gone through it myself. And it doesn't have to

496
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: be anything crazy modified. It can be whatever people are

497
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: driving their Honta Civics today.

498
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it creates the memories and it's the connection,

499
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: you know.

500
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: Like a family member and cars, right, so many memories.

501
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: Well, because we relate our memories places that we've gone,

502
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: the people we've been with, they all tie back to

503
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 4: the vehicle we were in. You know, what got us there?

504
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 4: You know, how did we meet? You know, I've now

505
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 4: got a memory, you know, with the two of you,

506
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: and it's because of cars.

507
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, listening to your story about your fifty three,

508
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: three fifty six, you know, the whole ethos of this

509
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: conversation and this podcast for me was to be able

510
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: to share attributes about the guess that help their success

511
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: in life. And you know the definition of success is broad,

512
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: so some people think it's just like money or you know,

513
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: fame or power. But to me, the most important aspect

514
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: of success is when you see the light behind someone's eyes, right,

515
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 1: you go, how did they keep that light shining? And

516
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, good times, bad times, money, no money, nice

517
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: car and piece of junk car whatever. Like that's something

518
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: that I search for every day because I don't want

519
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: my light to dim because I've it's dimmed in my life.

520
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Right.

521
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: The thing that I've taken away from you know, your

522
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: story is that when we value material things so much,

523
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: and that is kind of that's our identity of like

524
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: what this material thing or this car is worth and

525
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: how precious it is. It's not as powerful as your

526
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: story and your relationship to a car, something that you

527
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: love so much and you have so many memories, but

528
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: to you, it represents this ability to help people, help

529
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: sixty people raise one hundred and eighty thousand dollars and

530
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: I could feel the emotion, you know, like it's so impressive.

531
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Rod It's humbling too, and it's such a great lesson

532
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: that we're not gonna be able to take these things

533
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: with us, and if we can pass it forward and

534
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: do something positive with the things that we own in

535
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: our life or the things that we value that are material.

536
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Because I go, what do I do with my cars? Right?

537
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: What do I do with the stuff that I own?

538
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: The things that I've been blessed with. I mean, you've

539
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: taught me something today, because if I can pass these

540
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: things forward and make the world a better place, it

541
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: was all worth it. It was all worth building these things.

542
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: It's all worth the hard work, It's all worth the sacrifice,

543
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so beautiful.

544
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, you know, we started this conversation.

545
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: You asked me, you know, about my GT three And

546
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 4: you know the reason I didn't total it is because

547
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: I went through.

548
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: So many ups and downs in my life.

549
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: I went from racing GT three cup cars to giving

550
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: away my car to struggling in business. And I told

551
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: myself from like two thousand and eight, when the business

552
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: kind of started to change and when I gave away

553
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: my three fifty six to the charity and did all that,

554
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: I said.

555
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just gonna push hard.

556
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to work as hard as I can, and

557
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: They'll come a point in my life where I feel

558
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: that I've had enough success that I can give myself

559
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: a gift of another vehicle. Right, And I had my sights,

560
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: you know, early on, I was like, oh, it'll be

561
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 4: a nine ninety seven GT three, and that you know,

562
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't wasn't even there at that point. And then

563
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: and then you just kind of keep pushing, right, and

564
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: you work twenty four hours a day and you do

565
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: whatever you do. And I finally got to a point

566
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen where I was comfortable enough

567
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: that I could buy that car and it wasn't going

568
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: to keep me from putting food on the table and

569
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 4: doing what I needed to do. And it was that

570
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 4: motivation for eight ten years that got me to that point.

571
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: And then when it got rear ended, you know, of course,

572
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: I was left with a decision do.

573
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: I total it and let it go away?

574
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: There's no way there's that thing could have been wadded

575
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: in a ball and I would have kept it because

576
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: I didn't get the car as an investment. I didn't

577
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 4: get the car as you know, look at me I've

578
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: got a GT three. I got that car because it

579
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: was the vision, the kind of carrot for me that

580
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: kept me grinding twenty four to seven to build the

581
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: business and get to where I'm at today. Yeah, you know,

582
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 4: you have to have to reward ourselves or at least

583
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: have something to chase, to give us the motivation to

584
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: get through some of the things that we do.

585
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, don't.

586
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, Amelia, but when Rod's

587
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: nine ninety seven g T three got rear ended, he

588
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: did a post on Instagram, and like most guys will post, like,

589
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, damn horrible day I got rear ended. It

590
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: cost me all this money and screw this guy. All

591
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: this kind of toxic energy that goes into look at me,

592
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me at this expensive car, woe with me? Right?

593
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: But Rod's posts like really hit me. And I never

594
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: met Rod until today, and it actually taught me something.

595
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: It's like, don't put too much value, don't put any

596
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: value in material things. Because I think his post, you know,

597
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: I can't remember a verbatim, but to paraphrase, it was,

598
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm still healthy, I'm still here, and no one got hurt.

599
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: It's just the car and it's a GT three and

600
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: it's a quarter million dollar car. For some they'd be

601
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, crying the river. And I was like, wow,

602
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: this says a lot about this person.

603
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: But that's who you are as a person. You're very positive,

604
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: you're a very thankful person. Who to you it is

605
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, it is just an item, and as long

606
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: as you have your health and your family, you know,

607
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: that's what matters. That's what from what I've known you,

608
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: that's what I gather from you. That's a sincere post.

609
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm glad to hear that. And meeting you,

610
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: I realized that, Like you know, they say, you know,

611
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: be careful meeting your heroes, right, you know, so.

612
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: Because thank you so much.

613
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The level of work that you put into the cars,

614
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: it's like especially today, you know, the idea of working

615
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: with your hands is not its not it's not cherished today.

616
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: It's not celebrated, you know, and you're a true craftsman.

617
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's an artist I breed. Right, are you

618
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: surprised that you're beloved? Three fifty six, like twelve hundred

619
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: dollars car today is like worth so much money, Like

620
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: there's like a fervor over these old.

621
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: Dig because of you that those cars so expressive.

622
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: It's I'm probably part to blame for the increase in

623
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: value and interest in the cars, but you know, I

624
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: mean they are a very unique I mean, if you

625
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: go all the way back to the origin story of

626
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: the cars and you know the family that you know

627
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: that built.

628
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Them, and which is they.

629
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I mean they built the first cars,

630
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: you know, in a in an old sawmill and camooned

631
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: Austria and they were hand beating them out of aluminum

632
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: on wood stumps, you know, and then the car company

633
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: you know, built from there. So I'm not surprised that

634
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: the values are where they're at, but I'm grateful that

635
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: the world has now come to a point where they

636
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: appreciate them and and that the cars are celebrated. You know,

637
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: there was a period of time where the cars didn't

638
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: have much value, and you know, even Portie they struggled

639
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: in the eighties and nineties. You know, it's just great

640
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: to see that that the company is so strong now

641
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: as a whole. But you know, I just love them.

642
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 4: I mean I've I've built over two hundred of them

643
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: to the level that I do in thirty five years.

644
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: You know, I like to think that I had a

645
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: small part in helping to keep the interest and.

646
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Make money and make it mone affordable.

647
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's yeah.

648
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: They're a solid investment though, you know, and I think they'll,

649
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, even through tough times, they'll they'll hold value.

650
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: I want to ask about advice and business and all

651
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: this stuff, but I think before asking about business, what's

652
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: more important to me is how you've had a happy family,

653
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: a happy life wife Like you're very family oriented and

654
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 2: you've had a very beautiful marriage with your wife for

655
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: so long. Now, do you have advice for people out

656
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: there to have that work life balance to have a

657
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: happy marriage and family.

658
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: Well, you said it, you said balance, and that's the key.

659
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: And so we've been married twenty seven years. My wife,

660
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: she didn't know much about cars or really have any

661
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: interest in cars, but we fell in love and she

662
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: jumped right in and she had a good work ethic,

663
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: and we kind of had a dream together. We built

664
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: our first car together a year after we were married

665
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: and did kind of this tour around the Western United

666
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: States when Sane was just two months old, and so

667
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: she fell in love with cars. So that side of

668
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: it has been good because you know, that's part of

669
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: why our business is successful. But when we look when

670
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: I look at like the success of my family. You know,

671
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: we have a faith based relationship. We go to church

672
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: on Sundays and raised, you know, two amazing kids.

673
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: And I can second that two amazing kids. Your whole

674
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: family is great.

675
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know, they grew up at the racetrack. We

676
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: did everything as a family, and we put our boots

677
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 4: on and we went to work together as a family.

678
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: And I think that's really the success is that that

679
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: we were just we've always been moving in the same direction.

680
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: You know.

681
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: When we got married, Amy put her trust in me

682
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: that I'm going to be a small business owner and

683
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: we're going to build a business together. And she said, well,

684
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: I'll do the things that I can. And so for

685
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: twenty seven years, she's run the back end of the business.

686
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: She doesn't like being in front of the camera, she

687
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: doesn't like, you know, that part of it. She doesn't like,

688
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 4: you know, being kind of the front woman. She just

689
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: wants to be the you know, kind of charger in

690
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: the back. And here we are twenty seven years later,

691
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: and my daughter's married, my son who has an acting

692
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: career but also become part of the business. We all

693
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: work together every day, and I think that's really for us.

694
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: It's just that we all work together and that we communicate.

695
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: We're just open book and it's full communication, and it's

696
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: just like full dedication to each other, and we've just

697
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: it's just kept us sow in sync. I woke up

698
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: this morning just so grateful for my wife and my

699
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: kids and the love that we share, because that's that's

700
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: really what it is.

701
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

702
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: It was beautiful.

703
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: Was there certain things that you really wanted to instill

704
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: in your children going up to pursue their own paths

705
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: and dreams.

706
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, to to really find their own lane. I'll use

707
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: Zine as an example. You know, Zaan grew up, you know,

708
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: riding around in the porsches with us, and you know,

709
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: so of course as a father, you know, I'm like, well,

710
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: got them on a bicycle, and you know, I had

711
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: him on little, you know, four wheelers when he was

712
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: like three four years old, and by the time he

713
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: was five or six, I had him in a little

714
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: go kart and then he raced quarter midgets. So by

715
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: the time he was eight years old, he had raced

716
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: go karts and quarter midgets, and so early on I

717
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: was like that excited dad, like, oh, I got my boy,

718
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna raise a race car driver. And

719
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: he taught me a lesson. It was that realization that

720
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: when you're raising a child, it's not about you, it's

721
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: about them. Every year from when he was like five

722
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: until he was eight, he had to sign his little

723
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: racing license because he had his Quarter Midget Association race license.

724
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 4: And so we were sitting at the table, he was eight,

725
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 4: almost nine years old, and we gave him the paper

726
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 4: and we're filling it out and he pushes it back

727
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: at us and he says, I don't want to be

728
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: a race car driver. And it was that moment that

729
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: I was like, did I just like, you know, have

730
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: I just ruined my kid's childhood?

731
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: You know, because he almost take it internally well.

732
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: Car people were like, you know, why wouldn't he want

733
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: to raceco carts? You know, I've got all these connections

734
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: I can. He says, I want to I want to

735
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: sing in a choir, and I'm like where that came

736
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 4: out of left field? So when he was nine years old,

737
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: he started singing in a choir, and then he started

738
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: doing theater and then by the time he was ten,

739
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: he had an agent down here in La Now we're

740
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: in Oregon.

741
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: And did that have to do with the move a

742
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: little bit?

743
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: It did?

744
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

745
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: And what Amy and I just realized is we just

746
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: have to let our kids be free and just support

747
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: them and let them figure out what it is in

748
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: life that they want to do. But Zane had his

749
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: career in acting, and he came to me a couple

750
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: of years ago and said, Dad, he goes, You know,

751
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: I enjoy what my career path has been, but I

752
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: love these cars and I want to work with you

753
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: every day.

754
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

755
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: You know, we supported him.

756
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 4: I never told him he had to come and work

757
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: with me, and we just you know, of course, I

758
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: always left the door open.

759
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: It's so good for you to allow him to find

760
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: that on his own and not force something, you know.

761
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's like you asked for advice, that it's

762
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 4: just let your kids be free, support them and see

763
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: where it takes them.

764
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: We did that with both of our kids. And you know, Jade,

765
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: she trained ariel acrobatics and wanted to be in circ

766
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: disilay and after college she asked if she could come

767
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: and work with her mom and run the back into

768
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: the business. So now we truly have a family business.

769
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: I think it shows in all the work you guys do,

770
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: and when your name comes up, it's like, in a way,

771
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: the way you communicate with your household, you also communicate

772
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: with your clients, and you treat everyone like family. And

773
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: I think that's what makes it so special when you

774
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: own and you know an emory, you know three fifty six,

775
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: you're like you own a piece of family in a way,

776
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: and I think that translates in the work that you do.

777
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

778
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: What happens when you run out of three fifty six is.

779
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing.

780
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: I get that question all the time because you know,

781
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: you you know, to the average person, they'd become unobtainable, right.

782
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: You know, the only time you see one is whether

783
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: it's on bring a Trailer or it's uh, you know,

784
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: it comes up on eBay every once in a while,

785
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: and you know the values are so high. And you know,

786
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: Porsche built from nineteen fifty to nineteen sixty five, there

787
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: were seventy six thousand built, So that's nothing when you

788
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: look at numbers that car companies are building today. I mean,

789
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: they'll build seventy six thousand cameras. I don't know, probably

790
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: in four months. You know, that was over a fifteen

791
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: year period. There were seventy six thousand of them built.

792
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: Of those cars, half of them came to the US,

793
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: and half of the US cars came to California, because

794
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 4: California was the biggest market for those cars. I put

795
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: fifteen twenty thousand of those cars, you know, within reach

796
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: around here, or at least originally. I figure about thirty

797
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: percent of those cars are long gone because back in

798
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: the day, you know, if the car got hit, if

799
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: it wasn't worth fixing, they'd pull the parts off and

800
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 4: they'd just crush it. So about a third of them

801
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: are gone. I think ninety percent of the cars that

802
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 4: are left are in circulation. People are driving them, using them,

803
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: and I think there's about maybe ten percent of them

804
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: that are still undiscovered or sitting somewhere that you know,

805
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: needs to be found, to be restored, or somebody's been

806
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: holding on to it. I personally, because I've been doing

807
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: it for so long, I find four or five cars a.

808
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Month, wow, four a month.

809
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

810
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: That is a lot, But you have to realize my

811
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 4: reach is a lot bigger than the average person.

812
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: You know.

813
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: I'm sure people send them to you too.

814
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, most of the cars that I and I say,

815
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: I only buy like maybe a third of what come

816
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: to me because I don't want to buy a car

817
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 4: that's numbers matching or that's I want the one that's

818
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: missing its engine, missing its transmission, somebody cut the nose off.

819
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: I would say that probably half the cars that I

820
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: get are abandoned projects. And so a lot of people

821
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: will buy one of these little cars for thirty thousand

822
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: dollars or whatever, and I'm gonna make this my project

823
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 4: in the garage, and they take it apart, they send

824
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: it out and have it sam blasted, and then they

825
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: just pull their hair out and say, what if I

826
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: got myself into Because it's too big of a project

827
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 4: for the average person to undertake themselves. And so half

828
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: the cars I get, they're basket cases. Somebody's taken them apart.

829
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 4: They attempted to start a restoration, they did some welding

830
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: on it, and then they just threw all the parts

831
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: in it. It probably sat in their garage for five years,

832
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: ten years, fifteen years, and then I get that call, Hey,

833
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: my wife said, I got to get this car out

834
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: of the garage. First thing I do if it's somebody

835
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: that doesn't know anything about the cars or doesn't know

836
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: the values, I want to sleep at night. So the

837
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: first thing I do is I go, look, this is

838
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: what the car is worth. And here's some you know,

839
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: kind of comps. You know, you can see it on

840
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: cars that have sold on eBay or cars that you know,

841
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: and and try to educate them. And a lot of

842
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 4: times the reason they're willing to sell it to me

843
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: is because these cars it's a connection. They bought that

844
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 4: car with a dream of someday restoring it and driving

845
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: it and enjoying it. When they came to the realization

846
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: they couldn't. And I mean I have people when when

847
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 4: I buy cars, the first thing they ask is will

848
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: you please send me photos when it's done, because these

849
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: cars have such an emotional connection that oftentimes people just

850
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: want to see it roll again and live again. And

851
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: fortunately they know that if they send it to me,

852
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to build that sucker.

853
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a hard piece yet to live on. Yeah,

854
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: if the three fifty six is do run out, what

855
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: would you do next?

856
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of have X ray vision on

857
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: these cars just because I've been around them for so long.

858
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: There's a lot of cars that were restored in the

859
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: eighties and nine, even in the early two thousands that

860
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: were doing like quick restorations and the cars were shipped overseas,

861
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: and now some of them have come back. The market,

862
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: like in Japan was huge in the late eighties early nineties,

863
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: and a lot of cars went over there, But there

864
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: was a lot of people that were doing just kind

865
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 4: of quicker restorations.

866
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: I won't say bad work.

867
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 4: Well, thirty years later, the paint's starting to you know,

868
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: show signs, and those cars need to be re restored again.

869
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: So there's always going to be cars that need to

870
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: be restored and need to be saved. So it's been

871
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: my life's work for thirty five years. I think I'll

872
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: be building these things for another thirty years.

873
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't sound like you're going anywhere. And then

874
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: you have Zain to probably take over that.

875
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: I got Zain there, I got Jade there. My son

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Speaker 4: in law drew an amazing crew. I mean there's twenty

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Speaker 4: of us within the walls or within the business. It's

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Speaker 4: not a big company, but it's a strong team, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much for my pleasure. Thanks

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Speaker 1: a true honor to sit down with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's great to finally meet you, and I always love

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Speaker 4: hanging out with her.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, You've always been such a huge supporter to

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Speaker 2: me as well, even when I was a nobody just

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Speaker 2: turning wrenches in a borrowed garage on a friend's car

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Speaker 2: because I couldn't afford parts of myself. I'm forever grateful

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Speaker 2: of that, So thank you.

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Speaker 3: You know that offers will stand for life.

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Speaker 1: Thanks awesome, Thank you, Ed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.