1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's up? 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: And welcome to another Atlanta Falcons podcast. I'm your host, 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Will McFadden. I'm joined by Tory mclaney. 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Tory, how you doing today, Dune Schwell, yeah, you know, 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: just in a minute. We haven't caught up. I haven't 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: seen any one. 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: I know, I haven't seen you at all. No, no, 8 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: it's nice to see you again. 9 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course. 10 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: Well now that we've done with the pleasantries, we're going 11 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: to get into some craziness. This is only going to 12 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: go down hill from here. I hope it's a crazy, 13 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: shocking podcast. 14 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 4: Because it's funny because I walked in today and I 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 4: didn't really know kind. 16 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 3: Of what to expect with this. 17 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Kept in the dark. 18 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had no idea, and he was like, I 19 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 4: have some surprises for you. 20 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: So I've been weird all day. That was the most 21 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: genuine intro. Like I have not said a word Tory. 22 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm trying to like throw her off of her game, 23 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: because you know what, it's time that we prepare a 24 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: little bit. I think the Falcons threw everybody off their 25 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: game last year when they selected Michael Pennix Junior with 26 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: the eighth pick, and that was. 27 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: The talk of the draft. It still is when people 28 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: think back to the twenty twenty four draft. 29 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Literally a year later, people are still talking about it. 30 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Were you where were you there? 31 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: I was sitting out. 32 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: We have a live feed into this is kind of 33 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: a peek behind the curtain, but we have a live 34 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: feed in our video department of the war room, and 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: so I'm basically just watching Kyle Smith pace, Terry and 36 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: Raheem jibber jabbering to each other. Like so, I'm watching 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: them do this, and then obviously we get the notifications like, hey, 38 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: this is happening. And fortunately for yours truly ed already 39 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: written up a story on the Falcon selecting Michael Pennings. 40 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: I did that thinking that they were going to move 41 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: back into the first round. 42 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking like pick later later, first. 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: Round was what I was thinking. But then at number eight, 44 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, it's happening now. So I 45 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: was very I definitely did have him on the radar. 46 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: I just didn't have him on the radar at eight, 47 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: which I think is the big piece of the conversation 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: with the Falcons was that I don't think very many 49 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: people thought that they would take Michael Pennocks at number eight. Overall, 50 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people thought it was gonna 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: be later down the road yep. 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: And and because that was such a stunner, it just 53 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: got me thinking, you know what, let's like, fool me once, 54 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: shame on, shame on you. But you're not gonna fool 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: me twice. Because I'm gonna be ready this go around 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: and go through every scenario. I'm gonna keep my head 57 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: on a swivel. So that's what we're doing today. We're 58 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: gonna just be swiveling left and right. 59 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: And I'm swiveling in our swivel chair. 60 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: Swiveling, and I have written down six different just shocking 61 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: draft scenarios, the things we're not talking about that could 62 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: conceivably happen, Sure happen, anything could happen, So we should 63 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: talk about him. Okay, all right, well let's uh, let's 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: go knocked and start with the the very first scenario 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: that I've written down here. And I wasn't even brave 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: enough I thought about this, Oh okay, I wasn't brave 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: enough to put my name on it. So luckily someone 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: else did, Nick Sus of the Tennessee, and did put 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: his name on it. He recently had a mock draft 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: that was published where the Falcons trade up to number 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: two with the Cleveland Browns and select Abdual Carter. And 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: what this cost Atlanta is their first their first round pick. 73 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: They're picking the fourth round one to eighteen, a twenty 74 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: twenty six first round pick, a twenty twenty six third 75 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: round pick, and quarterback Kirk Cousins to trade up to 76 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: two to get Abdull Carter. They also got a sixth 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: round pick, which you're you hate. 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: I hate, yeah, y'all, y'all know how I feel about 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: those late, yeah, late third day picks. 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: What's your initial reaction to that scenario. 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: I think if the Falcons felt that they could go 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 4: and win it all in twenty twenty five, then and 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: that's the move that you make because but I don't 84 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: think that sets you up for sustained success by making 85 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: that move and giving up all of the things that 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: you would have to give up in order to move 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: into number two. Not saying that Abdol Carter is not 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: a number two overall pick, I think he absolutely is. 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: I've mocked him number two overall many times. I think 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: he's going to be a top four pick. I don't 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: think the Falcons are the team that should be in 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: the top four to get him because of how much 93 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: draft capital they would have to give up. I'm okay 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: with the addition of, like including someone like Kirk Cousins 95 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: in the trade. I think that the riding's on the 96 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 4: wall with that anyway, So I'm fine with that. 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: But it's the future first round draft picks. It's the 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: draft picks. 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 4: You only have five draft picks in this year's twenty 100 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: twenty five draft class, and you have a ton of 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: needs that you still need to go out and get. 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: You have a lot of starters on the defensive side 103 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: that you need to go and find. And I don't 104 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: know if the Falcons are in the position where one player, 105 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: even a player at the caliber of Abdul Carter, is 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: going to change that. 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I like, it would be so much fun. 108 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh great, Oh, it would be great. 109 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: I'd be sitting here being like, yep, defense is fixed, 110 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: offense is ready to go. This team's going thirteen and four, 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: let's ride, you. 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Know, like see, I wouldn't. I would not be like that. Yeah, 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: but I'm people know this. I'm an optimist at heart, right. 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: All I need is just flip that switch and I'm here, 115 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm ready to throw up that bat signal. I am 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: the first one answering, But I like what you said. 117 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: It's when you're looking at sustained success and particularly like 118 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: what this team needs now are cost effective impact players. Yeah, 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: you don't want to get into the situation that kind 120 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: of they got into at the tail end of the 121 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn Thomas mitchrof era, where you were like, we 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: hit on a lot of these draft picks, but then 123 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: you didn't really have the wave of replacements behind them 124 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: where you could make some of these tough decisions financially 125 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: and say like, look, appreciate your service. We got somebody 126 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: waiting in the wings who is going to be a 127 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: little bit more cost effective. We're building a team. We 128 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: got to keep in mind the balance. If you're getting 129 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: rid of kind of these picks next year that are premium, 130 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: you know, first round pick and a third round pick, like, 131 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: and you don't have picks this year, Yeah, all of 132 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: a sudden, you're really having to build your roster through 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: free agency, and that is just not a cost effective 134 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: way to create a roster in today's NFL. So for 135 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: that reason, as much as I would love the impact player. 136 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: I think it's more about the balance of a roster 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: as opposed to a stars and kind of you know, 138 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, scrubs. 139 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: Approach right exactly. And I think too that if the Falcons, 140 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: if we're sitting here in the Falcons had seven eight 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: picks in the twenty twenty five draft class, and had 142 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 4: you known had had a true starter alongside Jesse Bates 143 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: at safety, felt good. 144 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: About where you were in the secondary, Falcons were. 145 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: In a totally different situation. 146 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: You're right, then, sure, this makes. 147 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Sense, okay, but interesting. 148 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: I'm not willing to sell the farm. 149 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: To get even though saying the Falcons need a pass rusher, 150 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: go get the very best one, a player that they feel, 151 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: you know, could be on defense with John Is on offense. 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: Here's the thing is, like I say this, and I 153 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 4: say this a lot about quarterbacks and drafting quarterbacks, It's 154 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: all about the position you're putting them in and the 155 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: people around the structure, the infrastructure around them. And I 156 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: think that's why someone like Michael Pennix has the talent 157 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: everything to succeed, but he also has Drake Lennon, John Robinson, 158 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: Tyler Aljier, Darnold Mooney around him, has an offensive line 159 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: that's been around him or has been. 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: Together for almost three whole seasons now. 161 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: So I think in the same vein, it's like, what 162 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: would you be inserting Abdul Carter into? Do you have 163 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: enough of the infrastructure to feel confident that this one 164 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: player is going to theoretically fundamentally change your defense? But 165 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: if all eyes are on him, how can. 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: That's a big question. Yeah, that's that's great. I love 167 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: the answer to that. I thought you were very practical 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: on it, which I didn't know what I expected, but 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: it was right. 170 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: Did you think I was gonna be like do it? 171 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? I kind of did. 172 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to be like, just let's go, yeah, 173 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: abdual Carter, all right. Our second one, let's say the 174 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: Falcons aren't gonna trade up, you know, let's say they 175 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: kind of do what Terry Fano has said, Yeah, we're 176 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: considering it, and they trade back, specifically in this scenario 177 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: with the Ravens to number twenty seven overall. So in 178 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: this the Falcons would trade away fifteen and number two eighteen, 179 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: So we're getting rid of one of those seventh round picks. 180 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: For you. I included that in there, just I want 181 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: just ship it off. 182 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: In return, they get pick number twenty seven this year, 183 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: they get the Raven's second round pick number fifty nine, 184 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: third round pick number ninety one, a sixth round pick 185 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: number one eighty three, and a fourth round pick next year. 186 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: So you get really into day two, Like you get 187 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: a few bits of ammunition there on Day two, which 188 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: is kind of like the strength I think of this draft. 189 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: But you pass up potentially that option of one of 190 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: those top edge rushers. And in this scenario, the shocking 191 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: part would be that they don't take a defensive player 192 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: at all. That it picked number twenty seven. They say 193 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: the best player on the board is Gray's Abel, the 194 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: offensive tackle out of North Dakota State. But we feel 195 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: he is going to be our all pro center for 196 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: the next decade. 197 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: He's our Alex Mack. What is your reaction to that, 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: Tory Macbright, You. 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: Had me, You had me until you named the pick. 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, that's the shocking part. I know that is the shocking. 201 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Otherwise it's just like a true draft move. 202 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: Do it, dude. 203 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Otherwise it's like, let's crown Terry. He got all those 204 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: picks on Day two, we're gonna get another edge defender. No, 205 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: they take the top player on their board, a surefire 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: all pro for a decade, Greys Abel. 207 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: Oh. 208 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 209 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 210 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: I don't like it at all. I don't like it. 211 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: I don't like it because I feel like. 212 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: Man when they draft him and this all comes to fruition. 213 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: I know, play this clift to put it up at 214 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: the draft party in Mercedes Spence. 215 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: It's just me on the hailer. 216 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it at all. 217 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: I don't like it at all. 218 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: But no, I cannot get over it and get past 219 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: the defensive needs on this team. 220 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I can't do it. I can't do it. I'm not 221 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: gonna I'm not going to draft. 222 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: The earliest I'm drafting an offensive player is in the 223 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: fourth round of the like if the Falcons were to 224 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: like continue with the picks that they have, I'm not 225 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: going off I'm not going offense. I'm just not. So 226 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: you're never gonna be able to sell me on this 227 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna do it. 228 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: I'm not going to not draft. 229 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: The best, even if it's the best defensive guy at 230 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: number twenty seven. I'm taking him. I'm taking him. I'm 231 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: not touching the offense. And I feel very strongly in this. 232 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: If you couldn't already tell, I was like this is 233 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: that was perfect? Thank you so much for that performances 234 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: for the Emmy. 235 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: I want to to say, it's nothing against crazy April, 236 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: and I've watched some. 237 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Film on it. Every day I've read says he's a 238 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: great guy. 239 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: And honestly, like I think that he's gonna have a 240 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: good career. I feel good about it. But not in Atlanta, 241 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: Not in Atlanta, not not No. 242 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: I think you just channeled like all of the city 243 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: of Atlanta, the fan base, Like, I think that was 244 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: that was a great preview of, honestly, what I would 245 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: expect the reaction to be if they drafted a center 246 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: in the first round, knowing what we know. But hey, again, 247 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: head on a swivel. Here, everything is on the table. 248 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: So let's go to our third scenario. The Falcons are 249 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: trading back again. This time I don't have a player 250 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: named because that's irrelevant here. What's key is that they 251 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: move out of the first round altogether. They they say, 252 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: you know what, We're fine without a first round pick 253 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: this year, we're gonna move back with the Patriots to 254 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: pick number thirty eight. 255 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's. 256 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Who you know is offer. We're trading fifteen away. In return, 257 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: we're getting pick number thirty eight. We're getting pick number 258 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: sixty nine in the third round, pick one oh six 259 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: in the fourth, pick one forty four in the fifth, 260 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty six second round pick. Okay, to 261 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: move out of the first round and your first pick 262 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: is going to be what is that? Six picks into 263 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: the second round. 264 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: Into the second round, Okay. 265 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: I feel like if we could have gotten a little 266 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: if the Falcons could have gotten a little higher into 267 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: the second round and not having six picks, like if 268 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: we're talking about the first two picks in the second round, 269 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: yeah I could. 270 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: I think I could get on board with that. I 271 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: worry though, that the run. 272 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a run on edge rushers 273 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: and d tackles in the final five picks of the draft. 274 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: I think I've said this before on a podcast, but 275 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: I think that because of the Eagles, the Lions, the 276 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: forty yeah, the Fortyers, the contending. 277 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: Class, the Kansas City Chiefs, they all. 278 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: You all just saw Philly absolutely dominated in the Super 279 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: Bowl with their pass rush. 280 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: Literally, they all want and need defensive linemen, whether that 281 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: be ED dreshers, whether that be D tackles, and that's 282 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: also something the Falcons need. And so I would be 283 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: really worried that the caliber of ED rusher that you 284 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 4: would potentially be getting to be kind of your guy 285 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: would not be. 286 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: What you could get. 287 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: The caliber of yeah that you could. 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 4: Have gotten before those that run I feel like is 289 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: going to happen. So this is me kind of like 290 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 4: reading tea leaves a little bit. The reason why I 291 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: wouldn't do that is I don't think I would want 292 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: to drop out behind those teams. 293 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: Okay, for specifically an ED dresher. 294 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: If you're kind of like feeling like there's an ED 295 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: dresher in the second round, late second round or middle 296 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: second round, or even the third round that you feel 297 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: confident about that could come in and be that guy 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: and develop into that guy, then sure. But I feel 299 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: like that's more of a gamble than having the opportunity 300 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: to draft one of these guys within the first twenty 301 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: five picks of the draft. 302 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that sound logic. You know, you're 303 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: you're willing to let somebody cut in line, but like 304 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: not at the risk of moving to the back of 305 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: the line right right. 306 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: And not even the back of the line, like the 307 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 4: back of the back of the line, you know, like two. 308 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: It's like we're in line, standing room only. 309 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not even in the line yet. 310 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: You're just kind there's a line. 311 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: There's a line over there was there? 312 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes that makes a lot of sense. Like 313 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: it does, I think depend on where that run is 314 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: going to be. 315 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: And that is something the. 316 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: Art of the draft day dealing, right when everything is 317 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: on the clock and stuff's happening, Like you could just 318 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: see a scenario where all right, that run does kind 319 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: of happen at the end of the first round and 320 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: there's like two guys left, and everybody then has all 321 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: night before that second round, all day the next day 322 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: to work the phones and say, all right, I really 323 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: don't want to miss out on these one of these two, right, 324 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: we got to get in there. So yeah, like there 325 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of interesting kind of wrinkles, 326 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: which is why that was going to be the shot. 327 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: That's why we're here number four. The Falcons stick at 328 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: pick number fifteen, but instead of selecting one of these 329 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: four players defensive end Mike Green, cornerback Will Johnson, defensive 330 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: end Shamar Stewart, or linebacker edge Jalen Walker. They select 331 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: Georgia's safety Malach high Starks instead. 332 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, we'll get a Georgia bulb. 333 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, still get a playmaker. You still get somebody 334 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: who I think could help your team immediately. 335 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: It's a defensive player. 336 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: It's a defensive player. 337 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: It is so I'm not gonna I'm not as hot 338 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: about this like I'm not as This is not a 339 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: great intermission. 340 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not. 341 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: This is Tory's coming back to herself. She's coming back 342 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: within her body. She's fine, She's okay. 343 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I post. 344 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't like it though. I don't like it because 345 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: of who you're not getting. You're not getting Mike Green, 346 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: You're not getting freaking Jalen Walker. J Walker's available in 347 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: your I. 348 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: Should have put Michael Williams there, right. 349 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: I lost you, Jaimes, you lost me as soon as 350 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: you said Jayalen Walker. I was out. 351 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: As soon as you said the Falcons were not drafting 352 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: Jaalen Walker. I was like, and he was available. I 353 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: was like, get me out of here. I'm roll me over. 354 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: I'm done. 355 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: Like I there's no way. I think there's absolutely I 356 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: say this all the time. I don't think that Jalen 357 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: Walker is going to fall to fifteen. In general, I 358 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: don't think he's going to I also don't if he's 359 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: at fifteen again, Terry Foutnau should. 360 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: Be running the card to the board like to. 361 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: Get him, because I he's that type of player for me, 362 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: and I can't. 363 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: I cannot justify not taking him if he's there. I can't. 364 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: So even though people are kind of like somewhat saying, well, 365 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: the Falcons could use a safety too, which I personally 366 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: don't see. Even before Jordan Fuller was here, you know, 367 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: yeah they could have used somebody, But like there there 368 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: are other areas that I think are just a little 369 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: bit more impactful, right, especially when you got Jesse Baits 370 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: back there, Like he just does so much for you 371 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: on the back end that he can maybe get away 372 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: with a little bit. 373 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah else, Yeah, I don't think that it's not a 374 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: first round must have for me at safety. If we're 375 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: talking cornerback, like if we're talking about them potentially the 376 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: best cornerback on the board with take Jayalen Walker off 377 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: the board. But if you're talking about the best cornerback 378 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: or Mike Greene, Schmart Stewart, the James Pierceti. 379 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: Today, Baron yeah, Will Johnson. 380 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, then that's more of a conversation and that's more 381 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: of a thought provoking process for me. But the Malachi 382 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: Starks of it all, with Jayleen Walker big on the board, 383 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: I'm like. 384 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: No, okay, immediately, no, good, good, good to know. Yeah, 385 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: all right, let's go. We got two left here. Okay, 386 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: number five the Falcons trade with the Jets to move 387 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: up to number seven. Overall, they are trading away to 388 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: get number seven, number fifteen, and number one eighteen this year, 389 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: losing your fourth and a second and fourth next year, okay, 390 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: to move up eight spots in front of Carolina to 391 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: get Jalen Walker. 392 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: Okay, First off, I love that because I want Joyalene 393 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: Walker on this team. 394 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: Second off, that's so much to give up. 395 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: You're giving up your fourth this year, so you would 396 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: only have a second round pick and then two seventh. 397 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: Maybe you could trade those two sevens for a sixth. 398 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: You know, you can rub two nickels together and make 399 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: a dime. Yeah, but that really just it becomes all right, 400 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: Jalen Walker, how how much can you produce? 401 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: Right? 402 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: Sure, you got a second round pick and that could 403 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: be a corner, that could be another addresser, but like, 404 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: but then that's it. Yeah, you spend your tickets on 405 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: the on the top shelf half. 406 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think ooh in the second and 407 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: fourth next year. 408 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: I know it goes to the whole conversation that I 409 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: think we're actually having about Abdul Carter is like you're 410 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: selling the farm to potentially. 411 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 3: Get one player. In that you are putting. 412 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: All of your eggs in that basket, and that's really 413 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: tough to do in the position that the Falcons are 414 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: in right now, the way that the defense is constructed. 415 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: So it's almost the same argument. As much as I 416 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: love Jalen Walker, and as I. 417 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Do think he's more versatile two. 418 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 3: Than yeah, but I just I can't. I can't do that. 419 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: I can't give up what I would need to give 420 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: up in order to move up to get essentially one guy. 421 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: So those were the most enticing trade up scenarios I 422 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: could think of. So what I'm hearing you say, is 423 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: that really any scenario where the Falcons are trading is 424 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: just kind of no bueno for you. 425 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fine sticking at fifteen. I'm fine moving down 426 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: and occruing more capital, like, but I'm having a hard 427 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: time at this point in time moving. 428 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: Up at all. 429 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: That makes sense, So let's move on. Okay, last one here, 430 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: number six. The Falcons trade with the defending Super Bowl 431 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: champion Philadelphia Eagles to move all the way back to 432 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: pick number thirty two. Okay, back into the first round. 433 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: They are trading pick number fifteen, pick number two forty two, 434 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: so their last seventh round pick. Again, throw on you 435 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: a bone here you. In return, they get pick number 436 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: thirty two, pick number sixty four, pick number ninety six, 437 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: pick number one thirty four, fourth round pick pick number 438 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: one sixty one, a fifth round pick. So that's a 439 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: lot of picks. Yeah, they're all basically the last pick 440 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: in each round. 441 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 442 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: So you're kind of getting that second as a third, 443 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: That third is a fourth, that fourth is a fifth, 444 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: that fifth is a you know, like, so is that 445 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: enough for you to move to the very back of 446 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: the first round. Maybe that run has already happened, right, 447 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, So how are you feeling about that? 448 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: I think of all of the options, I don't hate 449 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: this one the most. 450 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I feel this is your least hated Yeah option, 451 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't. 452 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: I think that I could make this make sense. I 453 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: think I could sell this like I think that I could, 454 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: in my mind be okay with this because of how 455 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: much you are gaining and how many bodies you're gaining, 456 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: how many you know, potential playmakers you're gaining, like the 457 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: Falcons have hit on some guys in the fourth, fifth round. 458 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I did with these picks? Sure? 459 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: I actually do want to know what you did with them, 460 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: because then that may that may change how I feel 461 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: about it, because it was interesting. 462 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: The edges weren't weren't there to the degree that I expected. 463 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: I thought, maybe a James Pearce is still there. 464 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, I'm. 465 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 3: Telling Williams the run is happening. 466 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 467 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: So instead I went with a player who really captured 468 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: my attention at the Senior Bowl. 469 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Not Mike Green. 470 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 2: It is Darius Alexander, the Toledo defensive tackle who we 471 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: kind of a couple of weeks ago talked about Walter 472 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: Nolan and just like the strength and the power and 473 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: all of that, and that is is Darius Alexander like 474 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: he is, he's quicker than he should be for a 475 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: guy his size, but like he will just eat up 476 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: blocks hold his own be really that true, like presence 477 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: in the middle that the Falcons have not had in 478 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: a long time. Like Eddie Goldman was great for for 479 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: kind of the expectations I think people. 480 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: Had, but retiring three times, Yeah. 481 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: There's there's not been this big like space eater, and 482 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: I think of, how do you allow everybody to play 483 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: off of somebody like that? Yeah, you know, how does 484 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Kate and Nelli's play off of that? How does you 485 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: know Leonard Floyd everybody? So that was my thought process there. 486 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: Then with pick number forty six, Thanks so much, Philly 487 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: or no, this was the Eagle or the Falcon Secon 488 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: round pick Trey amos Hey, so I got the corner, 489 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: your boy, they're at number forty six. Then thank you Eagles. 490 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: I got Jared Ivy ll Miss defensive ends, so we're 491 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: adding real power and strength. I'm kind of like reimagining 492 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: what the defensive line is doing. But again, these were 493 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: kind of the best options. 494 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't hate that. Again, this is not this is 495 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: the it's a different approach. Yeah, and I would have expected. 496 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: This is the one, the one of all the options 497 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: that you've given me that I could get on board 498 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: with and feel like all right cool. Like I like 499 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: the Jared Ivy pick I like the Trey Amos pick I. 500 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: I they make sense to me, and I think that 501 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: they could be players that could work well off of 502 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: the ones that are already currently here and what they 503 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: could potentially develop into. 504 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: It does feel a little bit redundant, like a lot 505 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: of the same almost when you're looking at Brandon dor 506 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: Lis and like Rooke Roro and David Oni Mott, you know, 507 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: like but you bodies, yeah, Braylin tre Like it is 508 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: a lot of just like power bodies, length, versatility, what 509 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: can we do right? 510 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 511 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: But again, you know is that is that there are 512 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff at the wall. See what sticks 513 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: is that we've got a clear vision for how all 514 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: these guys it's a basketball team, interchangeability, things like that. 515 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: I think if there is a vision, if there and 516 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: I do think with this coaching staff, they talk a 517 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 4: lot about the vision that they have for players and 518 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: what they could ultimately amount to. And that's a part 519 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 4: of the grading process as well as the potential of players, 520 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: and so I think if there is this, even if 521 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 4: it's one of those things where it's like you just 522 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: got a bunch of dudes out there that can do 523 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of different things, I don't hate that idea 524 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: because it goes back to what Jeff Olbrick said in 525 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: his very first interview with me in Studio A his 526 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: very first day on the job, is like, I want 527 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 4: to do a lot of creative things and things that 528 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 4: haven't been done before. So having different guys who can 529 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: do different things, and there maybe isn't one specific carved 530 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: out role, traditional style of playing, perhaps that's what they're wanting. 531 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, I'm always intrigued by people who 532 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: are trying to think differently and go a little bit 533 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: against the current of how everybody's thinking. So I'm excited 534 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: to see how that pans out. But again, I just 535 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: really feel like what Atlanta does we talked more about 536 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: this last week in our kind of edge Rusher discussion, 537 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: but just like what Atlanta does here in this first round, 538 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: whether it is stick at fifteen and make a pick 539 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: or move around, like it's going to be so revealing. Yeah, 540 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: I think for what their plans are particularly on the 541 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, so that is why I 542 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: wanted to go through these with you. 543 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: This was fun. 544 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: This is a fun thought exercise, and I think this 545 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: is the most emotion I've shown on the podcast. 546 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: I had to have them draft Gray's Able to get 547 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: that out of you, but I got it out of 548 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: you like a good director. I brought the tools that 549 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: were required to raw out the emotion from Tory mclaneyre 550 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: we do that. 551 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: It was gonna be Gray's Able that would. 552 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: Do it for I almost was like the Falcons sell 553 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: the farm, move up to one and pick Maxwell Harriston. 554 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: No, my boy, that's what That's what. 555 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: Will McFadden would do if if we were given a. 556 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: Mock draft for Will. 557 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Which is why I'm in this chair and not in 558 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: the war room. 559 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 4: So there's a reason Will and I are not in 560 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: the war room. It's probably for the best everyone involved. 561 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: But the draft is very very close to arriving, so 562 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: soon we are going to be putting together like our 563 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: final mock drafts, predictions, previews, things like that over the. 564 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: Next little bit. Everybody, please stay tuned to Atlanta Falcons 565 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: dot com to this podcast speed We've got a lot 566 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: more draft coverage to come before the big event is here. 567 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: But for Tory mclaney, I'm Will McFadden. Thank you guys 568 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: so much for tuning in each week with us, and 569 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: we will see you next time.