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Speaker 1: twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number fifty four. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break Life from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Nick Dave Amber alongside.
Speaker 1: We've got Bucky Brooks coming up here very soon. Talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Denver defense versus the Cowboys offense. Nick,
Speaker 1: give me a fifty four. Woh Man, h Randy White,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's the he's the best. Him
Speaker 1: and Chuck Halley, I mean he got two in the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. And then they've tried over the years
Speaker 1: to make it a good number for other guys. It
Speaker 1: just hasn't always worked out. So yeah, everybody, everybody freaks
Speaker 1: out about given eighty eight to somebody, but they give
Speaker 1: out fifty four. No, no, no, they try to give
Speaker 1: it to good players, just nobody plays it up the
Speaker 1: way that they tried with Bobby Carpenter. They tried with
Speaker 1: Bruce Carter, they tried with Jalen Smith, you know, and
Speaker 1: it just didn't work. Guys that you would think maybe
Speaker 1: could take the mantle, but nobody just has. But for
Speaker 1: the fun of the game, let's say Darren Hambrick, Darren Hambrick,
Speaker 1: what do oh? Yes, God. The funniest thing was when
Speaker 1: he was holding out sort of and wanted a new
Speaker 1: contract and said, and he told everybody in the media, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want a twenty five square foot house as well.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, twenty five square foot house. So
Speaker 1: the guys in the training room him made this little
Speaker 1: cardboard house out of twenty five square feet and gave
Speaker 1: it to him and all that. And yeah, Darren hambrigs special,
Speaker 1: where's he now? I don't know. Actually, I really think
Speaker 1: that would be a good documentary on he and his
Speaker 1: brother two brothers played for the Cowboys. How about a
Speaker 1: documentary on brothers that have played for the Cowboys. The
Speaker 1: brothers are brothers, Jesus E r S brothers. Just checking
Speaker 1: checking this, Yeah, let's do that. Then the scope on
Speaker 1: the other one would be really, we got a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a good story, right, Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: there are seven pairs of brothers that have played for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Seven many how many together? Maybe like five
Speaker 1: or six? Um. I mean you got you got the
Speaker 1: you got the Hambrigs, you got the Garretts, you got
Speaker 1: Remi Adel And, you got Rod Smith, Jalen Smith, you
Speaker 1: got Emery Smith for a little bit with him at
Speaker 1: Smith just o it's a second. Um, I think I'm missing.
Speaker 1: That's somebody. I can't believe it's many. Martellis Bennett did
Speaker 1: not play with Michael Bennett, but they both played. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I still feel like there's one more so Damn,
Speaker 1: that's wild. That is that's crazy Hambricks. I love the
Speaker 1: way this game. Most famous number fifty four Jersey and
Speaker 1: in the history of NFL or Cowboys. No, that was
Speaker 1: my Google search. I mean was Chuck Howley. I say,
Speaker 1: somebody's pissed that we haven't mentioned Howley. Ye at this point, well,
Speaker 1: I said to ring of other guys, ring, Yeah, fifty
Speaker 1: four fifty four, both those guys you mention, Um, but
Speaker 1: but you know, Randy White might be one of the
Speaker 1: best NFL players ever at fifty four. I mean I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't think of other guys that played at fifty
Speaker 1: four off the top of my head. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: if you think about for me anyway, let's go back
Speaker 1: childhood like that. That was like Manster was everything that
Speaker 1: was he endorsed. We didn't do it. I didn't do
Speaker 1: fifty three yesterday, we did. You know, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite players, he he wasn't as good as I guess
Speaker 1: he's in the eighties, but he had the perfect name
Speaker 1: for a linebacker. His name was Garth Jacks j a
Speaker 1: X Garth Jacks. He played like in the eighties. Fifty
Speaker 1: three sounds like Madden creative character or like yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: like like he sounds like he should play next to
Speaker 1: Layton Vander Riley. Stepnoski is probably the answer there. But
Speaker 1: Garth Jacks was always he's kind of yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I love the way this little game sends us down
Speaker 1: the most random rabbit holes. For at the start, of course,
Speaker 1: if our quarterbacks gonna play, yeah, now, of course, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna switch gears. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have Bucky Brooks bring us back on track Buck, he's
Speaker 1: joining us right now. We're gonna talk a little uh
Speaker 1: Denver defense versus Cowboys offense. Bucky. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: the fact that as I was looking through this this team,
Speaker 1: UH names that I was very familiar with don't appear
Speaker 1: to be there. Bradley Chubb, on Ir Von Miller, Miller
Speaker 1: no longer there. So kind of walk me through real quick.
Speaker 1: Who are the players the playmakers this defense that Dallas
Speaker 1: fans should be aware of as they enter this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of the best playmakers they're in
Speaker 1: the secondary, Justin Simmons, passer ten. Those are the guys
Speaker 1: that have been able to get it done. And so
Speaker 1: Big Fan Joe's had to kind of change up in
Speaker 1: style and go more coverage than pressure because the best
Speaker 1: players that he has are in the back end as
Speaker 1: opposed to the front end. And so what he would
Speaker 1: trying to do is trick the quarterback, give him different looks,
Speaker 1: change the disguises and the pre snap phase of it,
Speaker 1: and hope that they can bait the quarterback into making mistakes.
Speaker 1: But it's not the defense that we thought we would
Speaker 1: see from the Broncos when you would have a Von
Speaker 1: Miller and a Bradley Chub and the past rushers dictating
Speaker 1: they don't have that kind of talent, so it's more
Speaker 1: trickery and gimmicks and smoking mirrors to produce big plays
Speaker 1: as opposed to their talent overwhelming you. Yeah the question, Yes,
Speaker 1: I do, Bucky. With all due respect to the broncos
Speaker 1: physical talent, I'm a lot more interested in the psychology
Speaker 1: of this week for them. And I mean, you worked
Speaker 1: on that side in the NFL and you were a
Speaker 1: player as well. The Broncos are five hundred, they're technically
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the at least the wild
Speaker 1: card race, and they obviously traded away one of their
Speaker 1: best ever players, and they also traded away a guy
Speaker 1: they just drafted. And I'm just curious about the psychological
Speaker 1: effect that that would have on a locker room and
Speaker 1: should they be worried about that that that seems like
Speaker 1: something that might piss some guys off. Well, one of
Speaker 1: the things that happens is when your team underperformed. Because remember,
Speaker 1: coming into the year, everyone felt like the Broncos were
Speaker 1: a quarterback away from being able to compete. We thought
Speaker 1: they had an all star defense, we thought they had
Speaker 1: a ton of talent on offense, and all they need
Speaker 1: to do is drop a quarterback like a Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: that could manage the game in a way they would go.
Speaker 1: It hasn't turned out like that. And so what happens
Speaker 1: is you now have a coach who's on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: You now have a general manager, which Pat who didn't
Speaker 1: hire the coach, who's trying to look at the team
Speaker 1: and evaluate the team and also accumulate picks to reshape
Speaker 1: the team and the vision that he has for them.
Speaker 1: And so everyone is on alert. And when you don't
Speaker 1: win games to the level of expectation, people find their
Speaker 1: way out the door. And so everyone's antenna's up because
Speaker 1: everyone now is fighting for their job and on top
Speaker 1: of trying to put themselves in a position to go
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Obviously, the Cowboys wanted Patrick certain and
Speaker 1: they wanted JC Horn and it didn't work out, and
Speaker 1: so now here comes Patrick Certain and you know, Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is playing how he's playing. Do you think that
Speaker 1: it's one of those deals where the Cowboys are fortunate
Speaker 1: it went the way it you know went, or do
Speaker 1: you still look at it and go man digs and
Speaker 1: this other guy would have been an outstanding tandem. I
Speaker 1: think Michael Parsons is a better player, and I think
Speaker 1: we'll look back in history and Michael Parsons will show
Speaker 1: to be a better player. He's more impactful because as
Speaker 1: much as we love warnerbacks, a guy who is at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, an edge player who can impact
Speaker 1: the game not only with sacks and tackles for lass,
Speaker 1: but also being a second level defender that can snuff
Speaker 1: out tight ends in those things, he has more impact
Speaker 1: than a corner Because as much as I love Pastor
Speaker 1: ten and he's played great as a rookie, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's delivered as many impact plays as Michael Parsons has.
Speaker 1: And in Dallas's defense, Michael Parsons is more impactful than
Speaker 1: what Pastor ten would have been able to do with
Speaker 1: or without Trayvon Diggs playing to the level that he's playing.
Speaker 1: So yesterday I was watching some practice footage and looking
Speaker 1: at some of the things that the old line was
Speaker 1: doing in their drills and all that off to the side,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this is really going to be
Speaker 1: an indication of where his level is at. But Layle Collins,
Speaker 1: what he was doing to me, he just seemed a
Speaker 1: little bit slow in his movements compared to everybody else. Now,
Speaker 1: who would be if he was the one going in
Speaker 1: and play there at tackle this weekend. Who's the person
Speaker 1: that would be lining up against him? And how does
Speaker 1: that matchup really look like? I mean, he's fine this
Speaker 1: week because this week he doesn't face a monster. Malik
Speaker 1: Reid would be a guy that play on the side.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper would be another guy depending on how they
Speaker 1: bump and kicked their front around, maybe a Draymond Jones,
Speaker 1: but really he won't face a five star talent on
Speaker 1: the other side. I think it's to be expected that
Speaker 1: Leil Collins would look a little slower than the other
Speaker 1: guys because the guys are in mid season form. You
Speaker 1: played seven eight games, you're now kind of rounding in
Speaker 1: the form and who you are. He hasn't played in
Speaker 1: five games and so it's been a while, so you
Speaker 1: have to knock the rust off. And really the only
Speaker 1: way you can knock the rust off is getting in
Speaker 1: games and kind of figuring it out. And so he'll
Speaker 1: be fine down the line, and I think he has
Speaker 1: enough savvy to kind of get through it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to look like the other guys
Speaker 1: because the other guys in mid season form. On that
Speaker 1: same note, talking about that, the tackles talk to me
Speaker 1: a little bit just from the standpoint of just football technique.
Speaker 1: How difficult does that transition from left tackle or right
Speaker 1: tackle to left tackle? I think a lot of times
Speaker 1: when fans think about it, they think of it as
Speaker 1: if you're a tackle, you're a tackle, you just kind
Speaker 1: of slide over. But what is that transition like for
Speaker 1: a player? And if you were having to make the decision,
Speaker 1: would you go with the option of putting Steel over
Speaker 1: there or Collins over there, or would you just roll
Speaker 1: with Inzeki because he's actually been doing it something this year,
Speaker 1: You know, I would and mess with Terrn Steele because
Speaker 1: he's playing so well that right tackle. It's a difficult
Speaker 1: transition because it's a different stance, it's different footwork. You're
Speaker 1: seeing the pass rusher out of a different eye, and
Speaker 1: so it can take a bit of a time to
Speaker 1: do it. And sometimes some corners can't go from right
Speaker 1: corner to left corner because the footwork is different and
Speaker 1: they've had ten thousand hours on one side and minimal
Speaker 1: time on the other side, and so it's uncomfortable. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of it depends on how Joe fib
Speaker 1: And has worked the rotations throughout practice, which is mix
Speaker 1: it up to make sure that the swing tackles and
Speaker 1: guys get enough time. For Lel Collins, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it depends on Look, he's very talented, he's good.
Speaker 1: Is how good is he compared to who else you
Speaker 1: would put their left tackle? Are you willing to live
Speaker 1: with the struggles because you got a better player, or
Speaker 1: is the other guy more refined in his technique that
Speaker 1: he'll survive. I'm more apt to think, hey, put the
Speaker 1: talented player there and let him figure it out. Cover
Speaker 1: them up with the tide end some, but eventually Leil Collins,
Speaker 1: as a pro and approach, should be able to figure
Speaker 1: out how to play on that side. So everybody knows
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley and Vic Fangio are tied together. Staley is
Speaker 1: a disciple of his, so I would expect it's a
Speaker 1: similar mold of defense. At least overall, we know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a lot of success on the ground in
Speaker 1: that Week two game the Broncos. They've been all right
Speaker 1: against bad teams, but specifically against the Browns. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've given up gaudy rushing totals and that was a
Speaker 1: game when they didn't even have Nick Chubb. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that just screams to me as a favorable
Speaker 1: matchup based on the talent and also the way that
Speaker 1: they play. Are we are we right about that? What
Speaker 1: do we think? Yeah, we're right about that, because here's
Speaker 1: the new philosophy that's kind of taking hold in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Teams are playing more too deep coverages
Speaker 1: to take the big play away. They're parking and safety
Speaker 1: is in the parking lot, and they're saying, you can
Speaker 1: have all the underneath stuff because when you get to
Speaker 1: the twenties, it becomes a shorter field and you now
Speaker 1: can't throw over the top of the defense, and that's
Speaker 1: when we'll switch. That is something that Big Fangio and
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley believe in. Also, when you can see rushing
Speaker 1: yards and this is blasphemous for some of the old
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators a round the league that used to say
Speaker 1: stop the run, stop the run, stop the run. But
Speaker 1: when teams run the ball, the odds of an explosive
Speaker 1: play goes down dramasks dramatically because it's harder to create
Speaker 1: those big plays on the ground. And so for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: hey man, I'll let Zeken Tony Pola run crazy, and
Speaker 1: then we'll stiffen up and we'll say you can kick
Speaker 1: field goals, not score touchdowns. The score will be within
Speaker 1: range and we'll have a chance to win it at
Speaker 1: the end. That's why those guys like Stanley and Fangio
Speaker 1: are giving up more yards, because it's all about the
Speaker 1: big plays and winning in the red zone as opposed
Speaker 1: to dominating the yard of stats. All Right, that all
Speaker 1: being said, Bucky, tell us what you think is gonna
Speaker 1: happen Sunday Cowboys versus Broncos. Well, I mean I expecting
Speaker 1: Cowboys to win. But I think this is still a
Speaker 1: test of maturity. As we all are going in Crincy,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys being Super Bowl contenders, we have a tendency
Speaker 1: to kind of dismiss the other teams, to say, oh,
Speaker 1: Dallas got this or whatever. The only thing I will
Speaker 1: worry about if there's a level of complacency that we
Speaker 1: see in the first quarter where the Cowboys don't take
Speaker 1: care of business early. If they can jump out and
Speaker 1: make the Broncos chase points. It's in their favor. But
Speaker 1: if they mess around and turn it over and have
Speaker 1: people the ball flies over the head, then they go
Speaker 1: in four four quarter game and the Broncos can knock
Speaker 1: them off. I don't expect it to happen. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys win, but they can't take the Broncos lightly.
Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, appreciate you man. We'll check in with
Speaker 1: you next week. We're gonna take our first break and
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Speaker 1: some injuries and some injury updates for the Cowboys. Will
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to second segment of The Break. Life in
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Speaker 1: your kids to go get pictures up there. I don't
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Speaker 1: jump into it. Let's get some let's get some injury
Speaker 1: updates there are there are quite a few guys that
Speaker 1: we need to at least get an update on. Uh, Dave,
Speaker 1: you sat in on Mike McCarthy's press conference talking to
Speaker 1: me about Dak? Where's Dak? What's he doing? Where are
Speaker 1: we where? Back's gonna practice, Stack's gonna play. Let's go Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go, moving on. Mike McCarthy made it that simple.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he's gonna practice, he gonna do
Speaker 1: team today, and coaches hate giving stuff away. So everybody
Speaker 1: in the media is like, so you think he might play?
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Yeah? No, They're like, so,
Speaker 1: so what are we trying to say here? And Mike's
Speaker 1: just like the plans for him to practice and play.
Speaker 1: So I mean, as long as it looks fine today,
Speaker 1: which I would assume it would, I think he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: I think he's okay. Good. I'm not gonna let him
Speaker 1: get another three hundred yard game and another win. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. No, but but I am joking, but not really,
Speaker 1: you know, Garretty, don't worry. Hold on, Garrett Gilbert was
Speaker 1: had zero chin chance to unsee Dak Prescott at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think he liked we saw in hard Knock.
Speaker 1: Do you think he liked him taking any reps away
Speaker 1: from him? Like like he didn't like it. He got
Speaker 1: pissed off by it. So I'm just saying a game.
Speaker 1: He loves Cooper Ros. He wants to play well, he
Speaker 1: wants to you know, he wants to get back there
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons, but not else. He wants to compete.
Speaker 1: He's a competitor. That's a quarter. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, yeah, all right, sebee lamb ankle ankle sprain. Um,
Speaker 1: We'll see what he does. I mean, he was limited yesterday,
Speaker 1: like he partook in practice. So again, what you do
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week. Not always because Dak
Speaker 1: was limited all week last week and didn't play, but
Speaker 1: typically if you're doing stuff at the beginning, it gives
Speaker 1: me a good feeling just in general. So something to watch,
Speaker 1: but I'm not worried about that right now. Where's gallup
Speaker 1: at this point, they are monitoring him. He is in
Speaker 1: the second week of his window. He does not have
Speaker 1: to be activated this week, but he could be there.
Speaker 1: So they have opened roster. That's a weird thing about COVID.
Speaker 1: We're talking about that with Cowboys pr earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Like in the old days, the roster used to always
Speaker 1: be at fifty three, and it was weird if it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And now they're like, they'll go down to forty nine,
Speaker 1: They'll go up to fifty two. They don't care because
Speaker 1: you can elevate from the practice squad day of, you
Speaker 1: can elevate from the injury list the day before. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter the way that they used to. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think they have two open roster spots right now
Speaker 1: because they moved to Briel Cox to injured reserve and
Speaker 1: they waved Bradley and I he's back, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's on the practice we go. Um they added a
Speaker 1: Sean mcwen uh. They so all right, So you're right,
Speaker 1: they have one. They brought Sean McEwan back. I forgot that.
Speaker 1: So they have one roster spot. They could use it
Speaker 1: on Gallop, they could use it on a d tackle.
Speaker 1: Just have to see, and they may not keep four
Speaker 1: tight ends. Well, speaking of McEwen, you got Blake Jarlin
Speaker 1: with a hip injury. What's what's going on with his stads?
Speaker 1: I don't think we I don't know. We asked about Blake.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what he said. I'm sorry, Oh, let's
Speaker 1: kind of go together. Yeah, wait, you used to love Lake,
Speaker 1: I know, right, Like Blake was my guy. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, whatever, eighty nine, who cares? No, I got Schultz,
Speaker 1: He's gonna have it. He's gonna have a chance. I
Speaker 1: gotta eat Crow on that. I all through the off season,
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, there's two tight ends. Who cares?
Speaker 1: And I mean, Darwin does have a role, but Schultz
Speaker 1: is clearly the guy. Nobody can deny that. So you
Speaker 1: win some, you lose some. Absolutely, Um, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: And and but having McEwen helps with that. So if
Speaker 1: Jarwin can't go, you can still have three because you
Speaker 1: have mcun sprinkling Schultz, So we'll see. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, I think the reason why Schultz has become,
Speaker 1: you know, even a better player, for this offense. It
Speaker 1: is just because they don't need any more dynamic type players.
Speaker 1: And I have to say that because you always want
Speaker 1: to have a bunch, but like the both running backs
Speaker 1: are dynamic in their own way. And then he got
Speaker 1: these receivers. Then the backup comes in and Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: is going seventy five yards and all that you want.
Speaker 1: You're tied in to be a steady player that is consistent, reliable.
Speaker 1: You don't have to beat seventeen twenty five yards down
Speaker 1: the just seven eight, get up the field, be smart,
Speaker 1: and I think it's working out perfectly because it's a
Speaker 1: pick your poison. They're gonna cover all these other guys
Speaker 1: and this is the one that's killing them and I
Speaker 1: just think he does that role better than Jarwin. If
Speaker 1: this was like get down the field, I think Jarwin
Speaker 1: would probably be better, especially when he comes all the
Speaker 1: way back from the injury. But right now it's working
Speaker 1: perfectly with Schultz. I'm not mad about it. I don't
Speaker 1: think they need to change anything, but I think they
Speaker 1: could have some fun with Schultz, and we've seen it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry with Jarwin, we've seen it over the years,
Speaker 1: like him and Dac not only have a rapport, but
Speaker 1: he's so good in the seam, Like we've seen him
Speaker 1: right in that fun spot like over the linebackers and
Speaker 1: under the safety's eighteen twenty five yards down the field.
Speaker 1: It would be fun to see, but honestly, they don't
Speaker 1: need it. That's the kind of thing though that I
Speaker 1: look at it and I'm like, that's still you know,
Speaker 1: that's in their bag, and you know at some point
Speaker 1: later in the season, maybe in the playoffs, they're gonna
Speaker 1: use it. They're gonna pull it out. And it's the
Speaker 1: same thing with a guy like Gallop coming back and
Speaker 1: what he can do in the d part of the field.
Speaker 1: There are those kinds of things we really haven't seen
Speaker 1: yet that they're they're holding them. They will definitely have
Speaker 1: opportunities to use them, and you'll want to throw some
Speaker 1: different Almost every game this year, there's been moments when
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has done something that's a little bit different,
Speaker 1: a little bit unconventional, like last week pulling out the
Speaker 1: two offensive line when they got lined up in the backfield.
Speaker 1: Like there's every week he's doing a little something different,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the same thing as you keep going,
Speaker 1: They'll keep finding these new little wrinkles, something a little different,
Speaker 1: something some way they use a player a little different
Speaker 1: as they keep going down the stretch. Did somebody on like,
Speaker 1: did Kellen or did Kellen call it the Hulk package?
Speaker 1: Zach Martin? Yes, okay, because I keep hearing that, and
Speaker 1: I was like, did the media name at that or
Speaker 1: did I miss a player? Zay? I mean that's what
Speaker 1: you should. They call it that. That's a great name.
Speaker 1: I love it. Hulk smash Yeah, all right. Uh. Talking
Speaker 1: about Nevill Gallimore, that was an interesting question I heard
Speaker 1: in the press conference about him and the fact that
Speaker 1: he's it sounds like he's I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: six to eight week injury. I think we're kind of
Speaker 1: either at that or beyond that at this point where
Speaker 1: is we're past it. He's working out, he's got an
Speaker 1: elbow brace on his arm, just like Tyrant Smith does.
Speaker 1: He was pushing sleds yesterday. He's getting back. Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked about him specifically, is like, you got to remember
Speaker 1: his position is all about his injury. You know, like
Speaker 1: you're leveraging and extending and pushing on three hundred pound
Speaker 1: players and so I think that plays into it. And
Speaker 1: they also don't drastically need him right now. So I
Speaker 1: do not that you're forcing an injured player in quicker,
Speaker 1: but I think there would be more of a sense
Speaker 1: of urgency if they felt like they drastically needed it.
Speaker 1: So they're bringing him along. They still I still think
Speaker 1: he could start practicing hopefully this month, I think, but
Speaker 1: just they're they're taking their time with it, you know.
Speaker 1: So you name all these guys, I'm still so amazed
Speaker 1: as to where the Cowboys are right now. It's just
Speaker 1: unbelievable what's happening because you list any of those guys
Speaker 1: and look how chill we are. We're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he can come back whenever he comes back, you know
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Which what was the last time that
Speaker 1: even happened to where we're like, oh, you know, dad,
Speaker 1: yeah he's practice hand we're this week it's kind of
Speaker 1: more chill, like we're not planning. Let's if Dak wasn't
Speaker 1: practicing today. I think no, Okay, okay, yes, but now
Speaker 1: the most major position, after last game, you're you do have.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna get through the whole season
Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush, but now you have a sense of
Speaker 1: more like, Okay, maybe they can handle it a little
Speaker 1: bit for another game. And I mean not having Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith is caused for a five alarm fire with this
Speaker 1: fan base, but nobody seems that worried about it right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I think that last Sunday's win was
Speaker 1: was it's even underrated. You know, just just imagine sitting
Speaker 1: there watching practice like we did in training camp and
Speaker 1: just to say, you know, what are the tough games
Speaker 1: like at Minnesota. That'll be tough with the crowd and
Speaker 1: all that Sunday night, and then they won't have to
Speaker 1: they won't have Tyring in the second half. They won't
Speaker 1: have Lyell, they won't have you know, I mean at
Speaker 1: the time, they wouldn't they won't have Jalen Smith, which
Speaker 1: I mean Michael Gallop, he's another one, Michael gall be like,
Speaker 1: when are we starting the draft show? Right? That's like,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna win. They're gonna win the game, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna figure out a way. It's not easy, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna win. I mean, that's the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: you know, we've been saying it all this time, like yeah,
Speaker 1: but they haven't lost Dak they haven't lost the key
Speaker 1: key player yet. Well they did, and they figured out
Speaker 1: how to win and now on that, I mean, you
Speaker 1: think about the last ten fifteen years, there have been
Speaker 1: a lot of players on this team that when they
Speaker 1: would go down, you'd be like, Okay, everything's fallowing apont
Speaker 1: when Sean Lee would go down, they'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: defense about to fall apart. You know, you lose tying.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, offensive line is about to fall apart. Like
Speaker 1: there's just there's not that this year, and you're having
Speaker 1: the same level of injuries as you'd have any other year,
Speaker 1: and you've had some big injuries. Obviously, what we thought
Speaker 1: was the best player on that defense, they have not
Speaker 1: played with him this season, and the defense is vastly
Speaker 1: improved over anything we've seen in recent history. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's amazing that they are. They have done something,
Speaker 1: and you got to give some credit to Mike McCarty.
Speaker 1: Something he's doing is working. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, but something he's doing is working with
Speaker 1: this team, and he's getting them to play to a
Speaker 1: level that they haven't really played too in quite some time.
Speaker 1: I also do y'all think about it this way. I
Speaker 1: you know those signs in like factories that are like
Speaker 1: it has been X amount of days since the last injury.
Speaker 1: I almost think about that, where to Nick's point, it's
Speaker 1: like it has been X amount of days since the
Speaker 1: last loss, and you'd never want that to be zero, right,
Speaker 1: So like beating Minnesota just keeps the clock rolling, where
Speaker 1: like you want to win every game you play, but
Speaker 1: now it's now now when you reset to zero, like
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll lose to Denver, but let's just
Speaker 1: say they do. Now you're only six in two, Whereas
Speaker 1: if you'd lost to Minnesota, Losing multiple games in a
Speaker 1: row is always like that's panic time. But now you're
Speaker 1: just like, all right, even even if we reset the
Speaker 1: clock back to zero on Sunday, that's fine. They want
Speaker 1: six in a row. Like that doesn't that doesn't inspire
Speaker 1: panic in me, especially with a bad Falcons team right
Speaker 1: behind them. Yeah, bad MC. When we started this whole
Speaker 1: thing at the start of the season, like what record
Speaker 1: do you have? And I mean I think you know,
Speaker 1: eleven and eleven and six, eleven and six, It is
Speaker 1: probably the high end that you would go with eleven
Speaker 1: and six, Maybe ten and seven. I think I said
Speaker 1: ten and seven. I think nine and eight or ten
Speaker 1: and seven. Yeah, I mean at this point, a five
Speaker 1: and five finish to these final ten games puts you
Speaker 1: at eleven and six. Yep. And that would be disappointing. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh you'd be really worried going into playoffs if then
Speaker 1: the last half they go five hundred, like that would
Speaker 1: be a problem. It depends on what those games are,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whatever, but just think about that, at
Speaker 1: eleven and six, that's five hundred down the stretch. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of these teams in the NFC's already
Speaker 1: have five losses, right, most of them have they all do?
Speaker 1: They all have five? Yeah? So yeah, the Eagles have
Speaker 1: the least and they got five and the others have six. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm not saying it's coast time, but
Speaker 1: just like that's that's where we are. That a very
Speaker 1: very disappointing finish to this season would still put you
Speaker 1: better than most expectations. But you know, even if they
Speaker 1: were to lose a game, it doesn't it's not like
Speaker 1: in my head like, oh man, this is going to
Speaker 1: become a street type of stuff, you know, where sometimes
Speaker 1: they do lose multiple games in a road It's not
Speaker 1: that's no, not at all. Just be like okay, kind
Speaker 1: of like what Nick and I talked about with the Vikings,
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's your time. Every like every everybody loses, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody loses three or four games a year. And don's
Speaker 1: not forget they've played four road games, all four of
Speaker 1: the games that have changed the score and the lead
Speaker 1: has changed in the final minute of the game all
Speaker 1: four and three of them have worked for them. One
Speaker 1: did not won one flip against them when Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying they're they're playing these close games there.
Speaker 1: They've won three or four. You know, that's maybe where
Speaker 1: they are. Remember, well, I guess I don't remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in those conversations. I was still here when
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about the schedule. We were talking
Speaker 1: about the schedule, and you I remember you mentioned how
Speaker 1: tough it was gonna be because of the way the
Speaker 1: NFL put the schedule for the Cowboys, saying how that
Speaker 1: was going to be a challenge. Yeah, all on its own.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's impressive. I mean they Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't like the way they did that first two games
Speaker 1: on the road, last game on the road. You know
Speaker 1: the way it went in the preseason. But I mean
Speaker 1: they've you know, they've stood it all. I mean, I
Speaker 1: will say this, going back to your original point of
Speaker 1: of them winning those close games, I actually think that's
Speaker 1: even better because a team that knows how to and
Speaker 1: exercises the muscle of figuring out how to win in
Speaker 1: the final minute of games and being in those games
Speaker 1: and not getting flustered knowing, Okay, we're gonna go down
Speaker 1: when you get the score, we're gonna win. That's even
Speaker 1: more impressive to me. And that's that serves you even
Speaker 1: better than sometimes just winning games by two three scores.
Speaker 1: It's everything in this league too much parody. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do that. And there are three and one, yeah,
Speaker 1: in one score games and the loss was on the
Speaker 1: road to the goat in the at the gun. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty pressing when you think about I mean, Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson made the play of the game and against New
Speaker 1: England to save the game. Um, I think he made
Speaker 1: the play of He made the play of the game
Speaker 1: to get him back and to tie it up. You know, now,
Speaker 1: it was great throw by Cooper Rush, but him, he
Speaker 1: did all the weaving and you know, to mad it
Speaker 1: make it a touchdown. I mean, he has been um
Speaker 1: And a buddy of mine said it six weeks ago.
Speaker 1: He said it, Me and my son been watching the games.
Speaker 1: Our favorite player is Cedric Wilson. I was like, really,
Speaker 1: like your favorite player. He's like, yeah, we love the
Speaker 1: way he plays and and he's become I always compared
Speaker 1: him to Patrick Crayton. I think he's been even better
Speaker 1: than that, just because he's so valuable in so many ways.
Speaker 1: And just remember, Noah Brown has played a lot in
Speaker 1: these last few games. So when Gallup comes back, that
Speaker 1: fourth receiver is still playing a lot. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: it may Noah Brown may not play as much, but
Speaker 1: you know, although they have such a rotation, like I
Speaker 1: think all of them are still gonna go, Brown will
Speaker 1: still play. He made it really clear that they don't
Speaker 1: really care. And the receivers are like, they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you take this one, y'all to us. I'm good. That
Speaker 1: was funny on that the best part. Well, so you
Speaker 1: watched it when they got to the sideline and Amari
Speaker 1: was like, you're funny man. You were trying to take
Speaker 1: my touchdown. You're funny. There's so many other words that
Speaker 1: he's really saying of it been funny. All right, we're
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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Speaking
Speaker 1: of though, speaking of the Salutes the Service game, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff on our web. We've got
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on this weekend. How about
Speaker 1: the helmet? I love it, red white and blue helmet.
Speaker 1: I thought that was cool. Haven't done that since seven
Speaker 1: seventy six? Yeah, that's the perfect Like you're to be born,
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like doing gimmicky what oh sorry,
Speaker 1: oh oh. I said it's good to be born, and
Speaker 1: you were saying I'm that old seventeen seventy six. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it now, I'm sorry, good, Sorry, I just
Speaker 1: I don't like doing gimmicky stuff to a uniform. But
Speaker 1: that's not a gimmick like they've done it before. It's
Speaker 1: a small change, it's a flight change. Yeah. I like
Speaker 1: just to just tweak it just enough to make it
Speaker 1: cool and new without just reinventing the wheel perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wish they would do it on the pants as well,
Speaker 1: like do a streak down the side, like a stripe
Speaker 1: down the side, a rich stripe down the side too,
Speaker 1: just to kind of pull it all together and it
Speaker 1: would look like, no, oh well, there's something to be
Speaker 1: said for Christmas in November. Look, we're not doing this.
Speaker 1: I had to do it as soon as as soon
Speaker 1: as you that that's what that's what makes springing joy
Speaker 1: to people. Yesterday he was I was yes. With the
Speaker 1: red shirt and the green line that was Arkansas's shirt Christmas.
Speaker 1: Christmas does not have a monopoly on the color red.
Speaker 1: It's a primary color in November. It kind of doesn't
Speaker 1: know it because November is not Christmas season. No, it's
Speaker 1: not not November. Third Or told us yesterday with your
Speaker 1: red shirt. I had to start getting rid insane. I
Speaker 1: had to do this on the radio today because the
Speaker 1: minute you say, like, man, hey, maybe we can hold
Speaker 1: off on this for like three more weeks. Everybody's like, man,
Speaker 1: you must hate everyone in the world. You're just the
Speaker 1: worst person ever. So I'm like defending myself on the radio.
Speaker 1: If you want to put your tree up, that's fine,
Speaker 1: like do what makes you happy. But like, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to listen to Mariah Carey on November fourth. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, Okay, well you won't have to. We'll wait
Speaker 1: until November. I don't believe you based on the way
Speaker 1: that this is trending. Oh, we're gonna have Christmas music
Speaker 1: before we get You make it sound like it only
Speaker 1: has one hit. Ever, you can listen to her with
Speaker 1: her other songs. It's not I'm specifically mean all I
Speaker 1: want for Christmas? As you It's already in the top
Speaker 1: fifties streaming songs in the world. Right, can you give
Speaker 1: us a little no, a little bit of that. No,
Speaker 1: I won't know where is this is how we do it?
Speaker 1: Rank from Montel Jordan. I don't think as high. This
Speaker 1: show is so off the rill should be is this
Speaker 1: hanging with the boys with the sounds like yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: real quick? I did want to hit one more topic
Speaker 1: before we finished. I saw this title O f fts Rich. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh I didn't. Let's let's get on this show. Let's
Speaker 1: all right, thank you. Um. There was one one one
Speaker 1: title I saw at our website that I wanted to
Speaker 1: get y'all's opinion on. Um. It was a mail bag actually,
Speaker 1: and and it was dealing with Jalen Smith and and
Speaker 1: I was obviously I dismissed it immediately, but I was
Speaker 1: interested to know what your thoughts were. I didn't click
Speaker 1: on it to see what your thoughts were, but he
Speaker 1: was at So you come to us when the numbers
Speaker 1: are down, but you won't even help us out. You're
Speaker 1: like us in the middle of other things that I
Speaker 1: have to do. It. Can't even sure you guys have
Speaker 1: a website to put content. Can't even throw us a click.
Speaker 1: You tried to make it click click baby, but it
Speaker 1: didn't work. It wasn't Well, Mark, I also figured I
Speaker 1: could ask you on the show so I could just
Speaker 1: get your opinions. Bring Smith back? Well, First of all,
Speaker 1: well you shocked that he got cut this conversation. First
Speaker 1: of all, were you shocked that he got cut from
Speaker 1: Green Bay so quickly? We're not you know, not getting
Speaker 1: shocked right now anything? Maybe, I mean, I'm not sicky sweater,
Speaker 1: that's about it. Not trying to throw up a sweater. Yeah. Good,
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm about to be out. No, it wasn't
Speaker 1: shocking for all the reasons that you know it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be shocking. Oh, it's gonna be a long It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long eight weeks, which is eight weeks away,
Speaker 1: by the way, eight I'm starting to work. We don't
Speaker 1: shoot the reference for that. Oh god, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring Roman Candles to work on May fifteenth, next next week. Right,
Speaker 1: what if you brought Roman Reigns and that would be
Speaker 1: cool because WrestleMania is coming. God, we are just we
Speaker 1: are so far in the weeds. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: talk to me about Jaylen Smith. Well, yeah, we've got it.
Speaker 1: We've got a wrestler coming to the game this week.
Speaker 1: We do, Yeah, you do. Rob Phillips. I mean he
Speaker 1: might be his pants, he might He'll probably be better
Speaker 1: than that one of the wrestlers. Well, I'm not what
Speaker 1: don't I didn't know it was a secret and I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding the same as Mark Mark Callaway the Undertaker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be at the game. Rob. I said, Rob, do you
Speaker 1: want to interview Mark Callaway? And he was like, who's that?
Speaker 1: Who should I know? Who? Mark? And then just like
Speaker 1: you could see the light bulb come him. He was like,
Speaker 1: shut up, man, don't do that. Don't don't don't even
Speaker 1: play with me. Don't play You're not gonna make me
Speaker 1: interview the Undertaker. Yeah, it's gonna happen. So awesome, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith? Should he come back? Jalen Smith? Is he
Speaker 1: lost like six steps? You can see it every week
Speaker 1: he was in Green Bay. The tape is on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It looked the same as it did here, and Green
Speaker 1: Bay saw it as well. And it't be surprising to anybody.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. From eighteen different reasons, all of
Speaker 1: the same physical problems exist. He did not play special
Speaker 1: teams while he was here, which is what you want
Speaker 1: your sixth linebacker to do. Having a lack of speed
Speaker 1: and explosiveness might hurt even more on special teams because
Speaker 1: you're running distances of fifty sixty seventy yards instead of
Speaker 1: twenty thirty. And on top of that, there's the awkwardness
Speaker 1: of cutting a thirteen million dollar player who was a
Speaker 1: team captain, letting him get fired from another job, and
Speaker 1: then bringing him back into the locker room where who
Speaker 1: not like, you know, how does he handle that? How
Speaker 1: do people treat it? Like? Nothing about it makes sense? No,
Speaker 1: the only thing that would would make sense is if
Speaker 1: the main reason was because of his contract and you
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of that contract and don't want
Speaker 1: it hanging over your head and all that, and so
Speaker 1: bringing him back there would be none of that. But
Speaker 1: that wasn't the only reason. All of the stuff that
Speaker 1: he said is also played a part into it. I
Speaker 1: think he might get another chance with another team. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he probably would, just because, like I've mentioned before,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been cut by the Cowboys and the Packers,
Speaker 1: two teams that are pretty good that don't need him
Speaker 1: to start. There might be one of the other thirty
Speaker 1: teams that says, this guy could be better than what
Speaker 1: we've got a linebacker. With all the injuries, COVID, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, maybe he will get another chance on a
Speaker 1: team that isn't as fortunate with their defensive starters. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer that there are no bad questions ever,
Speaker 1: But with all due respect, there that was a bad question. Well,
Speaker 1: it was on the site, so I figured, mean, fans
Speaker 1: are asking about it. I have had fans, we have
Speaker 1: gotten made a lot of questions about it, and No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you develop attachment to players like we've Jalen's a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's he's he's an amazing story. Like, you develop an
Speaker 1: attachment to that. You're like, hey, you know, we could
Speaker 1: bring him back if the cost is right. It just
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. They would have carried him and that
Speaker 1: salary if he was a viable player, right, because it
Speaker 1: would already pay it. They'd already spent at that point
Speaker 1: if he was just like decent, And they're like, man,
Speaker 1: we really hate that we're spending this money on this guy,
Speaker 1: and we got to do something about it later. But
Speaker 1: if he was capable of doing what they wanted him to,
Speaker 1: he'd still be here. Yeah, ye, all right, we appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys, you want us, We'll be back tomorrow. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you guys. I feel bad about it, as
Speaker 1: he walked off. No, I actually I am. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to get to a point where I'm just kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that it feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of times people are just kind of piled on
Speaker 1: at this point because he really is like there's no
Speaker 1: point to it. Like he is. He had the limitations,
Speaker 1: he had um he did some things that probably invited
Speaker 1: some some negativity with regards to how he how he
Speaker 1: did things on the field. He was a model citizen
Speaker 1: off the field. He's exactly what you want from a player.
Speaker 1: I think off the field, I do think and I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't have to reopen this, but sorry, but the
Speaker 1: the what we talked about it, like the the obliviousness
Speaker 1: of it. You know, he told us to watch the tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he signed in Green Bay and they asked
Speaker 1: him what type of player he was and he said
Speaker 1: a lead. And so I think people see what happens
Speaker 1: and there, and that's why it kind of generates that
Speaker 1: negative reaction where it's like, see, I told you, Jalen.
Speaker 1: But at this point, it's just it's water so far
Speaker 1: under the bridge, Like I don't I don't delight in that,
Speaker 1: but it's there's no cults there, you go, Matt Eberflus,
Speaker 1: there's just there's no benefit. There's no benefit to that
Speaker 1: here for the Cowboys from a culture perspective or a
Speaker 1: improving your team perspective. All right, that's a rap. We'll
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