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Speaker 2: You know, every once in a while a repair comes

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Speaker 2: through the shop and it reminds me why order repair

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Speaker 2: isn't just about turning wrenches, It's about managing risk. It's

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Speaker 2: that walk on the wild side when you're saying, why

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Speaker 2: am I doing this? This week Out of twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado with the sixty six Duramax diesel in the

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Speaker 2: shop almost three hundred thousand miles and the complaint was

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Speaker 2: a check engine light. Well, the customer thought the check

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Speaker 2: engine light was transfer case related because they were using

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Speaker 2: one of their phone scanners. And you guys know what

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Speaker 2: I think about phone scanners, how useless they are. And

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Speaker 2: it didn't give them all the information. They've even correct

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Speaker 2: information because it missed the other nineteen fault codes that

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Speaker 2: were in the system over the past couple of years

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Speaker 2: as they've worked on it and cleared it and done

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Speaker 2: this and done that. So where do you start. You're

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Speaker 2: the treating doctor and you've got nineteen symptoms with a

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Speaker 2: vehicle with a patient, and you know you've got to

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Speaker 2: clear everything out and start over. Let's what's really going

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Speaker 2: on here? P. Zero six seventy three globe plug failed,

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Speaker 2: open circuit. Fault code came back as it had been

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Speaker 2: in the original print out. And it really wasn't difficult, right,

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Speaker 2: A little scam tool works, some electrical testing circuit verification. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you've got a bad glow plug on number three, number

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Speaker 2: three cylinder. See that's the science of diagnostics. You go

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Speaker 2: step by step like Pop said, Steps one through ten Runnie,

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Speaker 2: don't skip, don't go two, four, six, eight, one through ten.

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Speaker 2: Boom needs a glow plug. And now the real work started.

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Speaker 2: And ugh, you gotta take this glow plug out. And

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Speaker 2: it's a steel bodied glow plug and a loom cylinder

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Speaker 2: head that had seen almost three hundred thousand miles of

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Speaker 2: heat cycles, corrosion, potential carbon build up. And you know,

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Speaker 2: to most people mostly out there, hey, it sounds simple.

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Speaker 2: You just walk up, you unscrew it, you take it out,

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Speaker 2: you put it in. What could go wrong? It doesn't

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Speaker 2: work that way because every time you turn a wrench

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Speaker 2: it carries risk. It does. I'm not complaining, I'm just

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Speaker 2: state in e fact, all right, is there carbon build

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Speaker 2: up on the tip? Will it? Will it stay? Will

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Speaker 2: it break off? Will it break the tip? Well? Will

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Speaker 2: the heating element come apart? So that now you've got

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Speaker 2: a glow plug stuck in the body like a sparkplug.

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Speaker 2: Hect's coming apart, and you've got no way to turn anything.

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Speaker 2: You know, if any of that happens, If the tip

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Speaker 2: of the glow plug breaks off, and they're known to

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Speaker 2: do this, this eight nine hundred dollars repair suddenly becomes

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Speaker 2: a cylinder head job And at three hundred thousand miles

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Speaker 2: are you taking apart just a cylinder head? Are you

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Speaker 2: going through the rest of the engine? What else are

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Speaker 2: you going to find if you have to take it apart?

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Speaker 2: The repair shop, every repair shop carries that stress. The

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Speaker 2: technician carries that stress. They do. They may say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't care, but trust me, they do. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's a game of experience. How hard do you want

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Speaker 2: to try and extract that glow plug? How hard are

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Speaker 2: you going to lean on it to get it to

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Speaker 2: come loose? When it finally does, you know when to stop,

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Speaker 2: when to work it back and forth. It took a while.

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Speaker 2: Now what made this a little bit more of a

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Speaker 2: challenge is it's a the truck. And actually, to a

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Speaker 2: outside the shop because the tires were so white it

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Speaker 2: I got to breathe in the smoke in the air

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Speaker 2: from Canada this week, which was really great, just a

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Speaker 2: great time. The globe plug finally started to move. I

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Speaker 2: soaked it with a little penetratet and it just and

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Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, this is great, it's coming out.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the dance of joy eh. And then it stopped.

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Speaker 2: Danny looked up. He heard the groan. He knew it.

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Speaker 2: What's the matter? I said, I don't know, man. I

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Speaker 2: soaked it a little more. I walked away. I got

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Speaker 2: a little bit of water. I came back. It went

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Speaker 2: back the other way, it went back this way. It

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Speaker 2: took the better part of fifty minutes to get that

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Speaker 2: exposed out of the cylinder head. Now the real work

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Speaker 2: started because the threads on a glow plug, on this

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Speaker 2: particular GM design, the threads are about in the middle

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Speaker 2: of it. So imagine a pencil that's you know what,

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Speaker 2: six inches long, three inches in the middle. Right in

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Speaker 2: the middle of that pencil are the threads. You get

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Speaker 2: move as it unwinds out, and the threads come all

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Speaker 2: the way out of the hole. And now you can

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Speaker 2: clearly see the end of the threads in a little

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Speaker 2: bit beyond, and then it stops again. Now I can't

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Speaker 2: get it to go in at this point. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of stuck in that position. So now I've got this

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Speaker 2: diesel with almost three hundred thousand miles on it, with

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Speaker 2: and it stopped. Now I thought about starting it up,

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Speaker 2: because I said, well, diesels do have high compression. I

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Speaker 2: bet I could blow it out of the cylinder head,

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Speaker 2: but boy, that would probably go off like a bullet,

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Speaker 2: and god knows what damage it might do to the

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Speaker 2: cylinder head. I didn't want to. I thought that that

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Speaker 2: was the little kid in me saying, Gee, what would

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Speaker 2: happen if we did this? You know, it's sort of

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Speaker 2: like when you played with them eighties as a kid.

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Speaker 2: What could happen? Oh, don't worry about it. So I

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Speaker 2: slowed down, right, I soaked the area actually, and I

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Speaker 2: thought about it. I said, what do I have that's

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Speaker 2: going to break up carbon? How about a throttle body cleaner? Right,

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Speaker 2: Gave it a couple of spritzes, a couple of turns,

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Speaker 2: broke it down enough where it slowly started to come out.

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Speaker 2: I worked it back and forth, worked it back and forth.

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Speaker 2: It's not exciting, it's it's definitely not sexy. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, sometimes the best and the fastest repair is

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Speaker 2: the one that takes the longest. Eventually the glow plug

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Speaker 2: came out. But the job really wasn't over, because now

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Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of cleaner as judicious and

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Speaker 2: gingerly as I was. You know, I've got this cleaner

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Speaker 2: that's into a cylinder on a diesel. In nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 2: I went to the first GM diesel classes being offered

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Speaker 2: here in New Jersey, and I remember the question I asked.

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Speaker 2: They were explaining, you know how diesels work, and you

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Speaker 2: inside of a diesel cylinder. And I asked the question.

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Speaker 2: I said, so how much clearance is there in a diesel?

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Speaker 2: And the instructor looked at me. Von Trapp. I'll never

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Speaker 2: the way ron there's no room in a diesel. Always

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Speaker 2: assume that. So you've got to clean out the cylinder. Now,

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Speaker 2: you know, what do you do? Crank it over? No,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that. I took a little I took

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Speaker 2: a blowgun. I took a real thin blowgun, took a

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Speaker 2: piece of rubber hose, snaked it inside the globe plug hole.

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Speaker 2: So I got the rubber hose inside the cylinder through

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Speaker 2: the tip of the globe plug and I just I

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Speaker 2: just blew it out. I just blew it until all

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Speaker 2: the crud came out my way. Whatever there was, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a lot. I just wanted to be sure. I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to leave any liquid in there. You know,

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Speaker 2: diesels can also hydrostatic lock liquid in a cylinder, try

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Speaker 2: to compress it, bend the connective. We're not okay. Now

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Speaker 2: you're going to buy an eighteen thousand dollars engine. People

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Speaker 2: always ask, you know why repairs cost what they do,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's because of the time that it

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Speaker 2: takes a shop. You know, it took me a little

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Speaker 2: bit longer to do it my way. I know some

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Speaker 2: don't care. They'll crank on the globe plug. Oh well

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Speaker 2: it breaks the globe pluggy body, you need an engine,

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Speaker 2: not my problem. I don't know. I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be. I think you've got

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Speaker 2: it's you guys are paying for something you never see

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Speaker 2: in a repair shop. Repair shops are worried about risk.

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Speaker 2: Repair shops are worried about are they displaying the right judgment,

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Speaker 2: the responsibility. But you guys are paying for experience. You

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Speaker 2: guys are paying for the wisdom to know when the

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Speaker 2: pull went to push, when the tug went to turn.

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Speaker 2: Once I put a wrench on that engine, like so

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Speaker 2: many other repair shops out there, we're responsible for what

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Speaker 2: happens next it comes apart gently, Hey, everybody's happy, you know,

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Speaker 2: if it doesn't, suddenly everybody wants to know who's paying

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Speaker 2: professional automotive repair has value. You're not just paying someone

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Speaker 2: to replace a part. You're paying someone who understands what

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Speaker 2: can go wrong, how to avoid it, and when to

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Speaker 2: slow down so the job is done. Safely and cost efficiently.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the most valuable tool in the shop. It isn't

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Speaker 2: the scan tool of the socket set. It's experience and

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Speaker 2: you've just got to recognize it when it's displayed. I'm

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Speaker 2: running any in the car Doctor. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about some of the other scene risks repair

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Speaker 2: shops except every day. Give me a call at eight

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Speaker 2: five five five six oh nine nine zero zero. I'm

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Speaker 2: here waiting. Let's go to Gary, Connecticut as we kicks

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Speaker 2: the garage doors open this week Gary, run an any

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Speaker 2: in the car doctor at your service, sir, how can

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Speaker 2: I help?

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for taking my mind.

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Speaker 2: Call Robert welcome.

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Speaker 4: I took my.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and twenty two Honda Pilot Sport in for

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Speaker 5: a recall, which I heard about on the news.

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Speaker 4: So I made an appointment.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even waste for the letter to come and

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Speaker 5: bottom line was all they did was tighten a bolt.

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Speaker 5: But while I was in there, they also did a

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Speaker 5: walk around and sent me a video and said I

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Speaker 5: needed thirty three hundred dollars worth of repairs. They said

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Speaker 5: that I needed a new front strut and control arm,

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Speaker 5: and that the bushing was cracked and not that I

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Speaker 5: don't love my car dealership, but I'm just a little

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Speaker 5: skeptical that, you know, they get you in there for

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Speaker 5: something and then they're always going to find something. And

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Speaker 5: I have no way to know if it really is broken,

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Speaker 5: because obviously I'm not a mechanic.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: How many miles are on this car? Gary?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Does it sound reasonable to you that a forty

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless it unless it clipped the giant pothole somewhere,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they send you a video. So in the video

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Speaker 2: Sarah's car, they show, Okay, the outer tirod boot are

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Speaker 2: Will they need to be replaced? Yes? Today?

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Speaker 2: to be replaced. And I agree, yet someday, just not today.

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Speaker 2: And that's part of the question. You have to go

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Speaker 2: is this just normal age for four years of harsh

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Speaker 2: gee whiz, Gary, You've got to do it today. You're

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Speaker 2: I don't see repair shops do a lot of They

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Speaker 2: and it's very important in the end. Sarah decided at

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Speaker 2: my suggestion, I wouldn't deal with any of this right now.

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Speaker 2: The car is safe, the car's not going anywhere, the

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Speaker 2: control arm bushing isn't going to fall out next week. Right,

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Speaker 2: months to think about it. You know, it's not a

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Speaker 5: It's almost the same repairs, struts, control arm and practicalaty.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's always a handy, convenient way to generate a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm right to be skeptical. YEP, I usually

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Speaker 2: Right, I trust them, right. You know, there's something to

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Speaker 2: And I want that. I want that bond. I want

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Speaker 2: I want to know the guy that's making my sandwiches

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Speaker 2: just I'm just built that way, brother. I don't want anybody. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 2: you know what, the fact that you made it out

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably time to go visit. You know,

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Speaker 2: and you know what, let's make it a lesson. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's hey, can you take a look for this? Maybe

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Speaker 2: And if it's general age wear and tear at forty

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Speaker 5: Frankly, I'll admit that there's a lot of potholes in

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Speaker 5: I would think I.

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Speaker 2: Would think, you know, I would think I like I said,

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Speaker 2: I think this is a question of how much, how fast,

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Speaker 5: Because you were in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: I'd go to you right, Yeah, I get that.

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Speaker 2: I believe me. I hear that all the time. You know,

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Speaker 5: Digital recall was It's like one sentence if you want

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Speaker 5: to hear what the original Yeah, what was it? The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of this, and I think it's something.

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Speaker 5: They told me. All they did was tighten the bolt

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Speaker 2: It dissipated right because it settled itself into the metal.

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Speaker 2: it seems to be Honda's Mostly when Honda runs a

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Speaker 2: get they do. I'm just stating in fact, you know,

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Speaker 2: You need seven thousand dollars of g whiz. How could

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Speaker 2: And I look at it and I go, well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Wow, you know you're confirmed my suspicion, and unfortunately you're

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Speaker 2: Listen, you gotta get you gotta get a second opinion

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Speaker 2: leave it here, Gary, I'll say it like this. You know,

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Speaker 2: I hope you find out what's really going on. I'm

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Speaker 5: Promises seats to the open road tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep your Doctor Car Advice to write. You know,

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Speaker 2: And that's what I think is missing from a lot

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Speaker 2: go over to Matt and Virginia Mett. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: car doctor, sir. How can I help?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? I got a ninety seven electric.

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Speaker 2: Glide Okay, nice bike, Harley.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to want to be the I want

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Speaker 2: Sure, go ahead, I'll play.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we got kickback or I think I fixed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was trying to fiure out why it does that.

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Speaker 4: I thought i'd give you a call. But I think

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Speaker 4: I nailed down my answer.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 4: Well, I did a couple of things. First, I checked

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Speaker 4: I'm like, God, I can now I can go put

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Speaker 2: And I would I would say you do, because those

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm on that page. So I'm on

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Speaker 4: And it's he kind of I mean the fact that

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Speaker 2: You know, well, you know what I always think about,

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Speaker 2: dark times at General Motors, think about how many millions

431
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 2: of engines they've built.

432
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do, And.

433
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: You know how many? How many two eighty threes and

434
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: three twenty sevens and three fifties that just ran and

435
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: ran and ran and ran and ran.

436
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: Exactly. They know what they're doing.

437
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. It makes you wonder what's

438
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: going on now. And not just GM, but a lot

439
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: of the car companies. You know, if you ever got

440
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: a chance to sit around with a bunch of mechanics

441
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: and you know that are old like you know, people

442
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: line there and you know what went wrong? We'll tell you.

443
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: We think the majority of stuff today is junk. It's

444
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: made like junk, it acts like junk, it breaks like junk.

445
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: There's just no longevity to it. Eighty ninety one hundred

446
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: thousand miles all of a sudden, here I'll tell you

447
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: a lesson in stupidity. I had a twenty eighteen be

448
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: my therapist for a minute, Maddie, I had a twenty

449
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: eighteen Jeep Grand Cherokee this week. Customer complaint, young couple

450
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: having their second child driving a ninety six thousand mile Jeep, which,

451
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: right away, that's a problem because it's right on the

452
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: verge of everything failing. The air conditioning doesn't work. She's

453
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: seven months pregnant. She needs air conditioning. Okay, I get that.

454
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: The AC compressor doesn't kick on. It's got a full

455
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: charge of refrigerant. Electrically, it's not turning on the compressor.

456
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: I trace out the fault.

457
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: Now.

458
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: The way you do this is you take a scan tool.

459
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: I look, I can bring up the command control for

460
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: AC and I can hit the button on the dish

461
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: and I see the scan tool change from AC request

462
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: No to AC request yes. So the button is working, right,

463
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: the control head is working. I can see, hey, turn

464
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: on the air conditioning. What are you doing? That control

465
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: head sends a request out to the powertrain control module,

466
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: the engine controller. The engine controller grounds the blue yellow

467
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: wire on Pin nine that feeds up to the power

468
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: distribution center under the hood. The AC relay. As long

469
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: as that has two powers in another ground will then

470
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: activate and energize the AC compressor and you've got cold, right,

471
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: So I one step through another I pinned it down. Hey,

472
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: i've got a bad AC relay. Good good, I need

473
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: an AC relay. You know how much that relay was?

474
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: I hope it was ten dollars on thousand bucks. That's

475
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: ridiculous now you know why No, Because they attach the

476
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: AC relay to the main board of the power to

477
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: distribution center. Yeah, and it's a solid part. You can't

478
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: it's the one relay you can't change. Actually, the horn

479
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: relay is in there too. You can't change the horn

480
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: relay or the AC relay. It's it's ridiculous. It's a

481
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: thousand dollars piece of plastic.

482
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's ridiculous. And that was that worries me. So

483
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: the single fire ignition I put in, I wonder how

484
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: long that's going to last me? You know, I mean

485
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: the mission that was in the bike. It's a thirty

486
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: year old bike. It was working. It's just I think

487
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: it works better now. But I just don't know that.

488
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 4: You know, you got to wonder about the longevity of

489
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: new products.

490
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 2: Well, you worry about the longevity. You worry about you know,

491
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: if you had gotten a replacement module or a replacement

492
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: triple Strike or double Strike ignition for that Harley, would

493
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: it work as well as the original?

494
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 4: Well, I was considering that, but I don't I don't

495
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: know that anything I get now is geeze. I don't

496
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: know if I'd be able to get an original ignition

497
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: without it being a used one from from eBay.

498
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: So maybe you carry an extra system in the saddle.

499
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: Bags I was.

500
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 4: I was thinking of that.

501
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it makes you feel better because.

502
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: When you you know, carry if I carry it, I

503
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: won't need it. Yeah.

504
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: Well, and that's you know, and this is this is

505
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: the problem with vintage cars. Right, So someday I'm gonna

506
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: stop fussing and I'm really gonna drive my seventy two

507
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: money Carlo. I'm gonna I'm going to relive my college days.

508
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: Right.

509
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: You can carry all the tools in your in your trunk.

510
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: Well, but I'll need to because you know, when I

511
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: first drove that car in the seventies, I would go

512
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: north to Maine and south to the Carolina's in Florida,

513
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: and if I broke down, I could walk into any

514
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: autoparts store and get half the car and we're done.

515
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. I challenge anybody to go find a

516
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: water pump for a small block Chevy on a Saturday afternoon,

517
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: lickety split. It's it's not that easy anymore. And there's

518
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: you know there they it's become I won't say that

519
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: made it that way, meaning the industry and society, but

520
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: you know, the advancement of technology and the creation of

521
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: the high tech automobile has eliminated, has eliminated simple, has

522
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: eliminated where the parts houses could make profit on smaller parts.

523
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: And now they've got to carry everything electronic if they

524
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: can even get it.

525
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: It's anymore.

526
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: It's it's no fun anymore, brother, it really isn't. It's

527
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: you can tinker and stay within the twenty mile radius

528
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: of the house, but beyond the scope of Triple A

529
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: you're doomed.

530
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: So no way, we're we're riding. I got I got

531
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: a group when we ride. So that's just the way

532
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 4: it's going to be.

533
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: You know what. You know what, Maddie, stay on the line,

534
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: have Tom, give Tom your information. I'm gonna send you

535
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: out to ronin any in the car doctor coffee cup,

536
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: you and I can have coffee in the mornings together.

537
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 2: How does that sound. I enjoyed our conversation. You be well, sir.

538
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor, I'll be back

539
00:26:50,440 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: right after this. Welcome back. Let's go over and talk

540
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: to Jason Alabama. Jason, Welcome to the car doctor, Sir,

541
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: How can I help?

542
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Oh?

543
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got that miles of six two thousand and six.

544
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: These sis. I put a water outlet on it and

545
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 3: replaced it with a and put a starter on it

546
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: because it's no crank, no start. I put the water

547
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: outlet on it because it was running out. I'm running hot.

548
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 3: The other water outlet it busted when I put that

549
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: one on, and I thought it was a starter, so

550
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: I replaced it. And now it's no crank, no start,

551
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: And I've tried everything that I can think of. Can't

552
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: get it running well.

553
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: The starter won't engage. You're saying when you when you

554
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: hit the key, the starter doesn't activate.

555
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's I can't tell. I mean, and I done

556
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: run the battery down. I got to chase a good bad.

557
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: I just got to charge it back up. But when

558
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: it was the battery was hot. Even after I replaced

559
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: the starter, I couldn't hear a click or nothing. I

560
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: couldn't hear it engage. But it's a no crank, no start.

561
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So well, well don't stop saying no start because

562
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: if it doesn't crank, it won't start.

563
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: Right, let's yes, I'm saying no crank, right, no crank.

564
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: So we've got a no crank condition. How many wires

565
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: going to the starter?

566
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

567
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: Too?

568
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 5: Right?

569
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: You got a heavy battery cable?

570
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: And well, it's just it's just one wire. It's just one.

571
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: It's the starter wire. But it's got a just a

572
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: knight on a on the starter. It's got like it's

573
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: got three but only one starter wire that runs to it.

574
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do I have jumper cables?

575
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, you have a you have a battery

576
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: cable going to the stud of the starter, correct, yeah, right,

577
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: And then you've got is it a black yellow, black purple?

578
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: You've got a singular wire that goes down to one

579
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: of the spade terminals that pushes on it's black.

580
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: Right.

581
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: So if we were to disconnect that that solenoid wire

582
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: and hit the key, and we had a vault meter

583
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: hooked up right, one positive into that the other leg

584
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: to ground, does the vault meter show power?

585
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's what that was my nets. That was the

586
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: next thing. I was gone, travels hoped the mater up

587
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: to it and check that. But like I say, I

588
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: don't know if I said or not. I'm gonna do

589
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: that just so.

590
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: I get home, right, I mean, and and listen and

591
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: you'll see me do this still to this day. Whenever

592
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: I hook up a meter, I hook up the ground

593
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: leg to the battery. I will take the positive leg

594
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: and touch the positive post of the battery. Do I

595
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: have a good And that tells me right off the

596
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: bad good ground Just practicing good mechanics, right yeah. And

597
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: then it's just a matter of what do I have.

598
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, do I have feed to the starter? So

599
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: if I have feed to the starter solenoid, then is

600
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: the problem in that cable that runs down to the solenoid?

601
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Could there be corrosion inside that cable? And then I

602
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: would have to vaultage drop that positive cable down to

603
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: the starter or as you say, if you wanted, you

604
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: could jump across it. Put a battery you know, positive

605
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: to jumper cable to the positive and then a jumper

606
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: cable down to the battery stud or to the stud

607
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: on the starter. If you can get to it, but yeah,

608
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: we've got to get at the crank over the engine

609
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: ran the last time was this Has this car sat

610
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: for any length of time or the engine just one

611
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: day decided not to crank anymore?

612
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: Well, anaphrase, had had blown over everything up under the

613
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: hood because it was coming out of the top at

614
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: the other end of the hose or the water house.

615
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: Invested it was on this car. The starter sets on

616
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: top of the transmission and the waterhouse and sets right

617
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: above the starter, right okay, And it was blowing water

618
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: toward the battery post. So I'm wondering if that amount

619
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: of college corrosion on any of the negative and pause it.

620
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: It would have to be so quick, Jason, unless this

621
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: car sat for an extended length of time just out

622
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: of curiosity. The coolant level in the radiator is good,

623
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: it holds, it doesn't leak anymore. It's not mysteriously down

624
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: after sitting overnight. And then the oil level is okay.

625
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been setting for about a week and it's

626
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: the still fully even after I put the new water

627
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: housing on it.

628
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: All right, and then and then the engine oil level

629
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: is good. No mysterious looking substances in there. I'm just

630
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it'd be a reach

631
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: of me to say it, But I'm just thinking. Do

632
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: I have the potential for a hydrostatic lock issue? Is

633
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: there coolant in a cylinder keeping the engine from cranking over?

634
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so. If there is a bolt on

635
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: the front of the crank, I would just, for giggles,

636
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: try and turn the engine over by hand, just to

637
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: see that the engine is still loose. But I think

638
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: the easiest thing you can do here is to just,

639
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: you know, verify why doesn't the starter work? Simple couple

640
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: of wires and you know, checks of power and voltage

641
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: and see where you go. And then once you know

642
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: if the starter is good or not, if the signal

643
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: to the starter is good or not for that matter,

644
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: take the starter back out, use your jumper cables across

645
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: the battery, activate the starter on the bench, clamp it

646
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: in avice. Does the starter motor work? Is it a

647
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: good starter? New doesn't mean good, and I've seen stranger things.

648
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: Let's focus on the starter motor for now. Jason, call

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Speaker 2: me back next week, let me know what you find.

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Speaker 2: I'm running andy in the car. Doctor. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: right after this. So a little bit of bad news

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Speaker 2: this week. The Ranger. Now, you know, I talk to

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Speaker 2: you guys about my cars like they're members of the family. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be a weird dinner out sitting around

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Speaker 2: the dinner table with me. But the Ranger that we've

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Speaker 2: been talking about here on this radio show since it

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Speaker 2: can't be since two thousand and four when I got it. God,

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Speaker 2: have I been on the air that long. So the

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Speaker 2: Ranger has started to develop a sweet smell inside the car,

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Speaker 2: and it's probably the heater core starting to see. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I can assure you it's not because you're sitting in it. Well,

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Speaker 2: it could be. I knew I gave you the opening.

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Speaker 2: Just be grateful I gave you the line. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we didn't Royal change on it this week, and we

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Speaker 2: noticed that, so we poured a bottle of KCl in

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Speaker 2: ran it around and again. You know, here's another example

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Speaker 2: of using a product that actually works. Caceal actually did

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Speaker 2: seal the heater core. Now why would I do that? Well,

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Speaker 2: at two hundred and twenty nine and two miles, I

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Speaker 2: don't see the point in taking the dashboard back out

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Speaker 2: of the Ranger to reseal the heater core that isn't

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Speaker 2: actually available from for it anymore, and I couldn't find

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Speaker 2: one in a brand that I liked the aftermarket. I

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Speaker 2: have no problem with the kcal in there. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: work just fine. It already is working. It's it's sealed

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Speaker 2: that the smell has gone away. But the point is

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Speaker 2: sometimes you just got to look at those older cars

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Speaker 2: and think outside the box to fix them, because hanging

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Speaker 2: on to them might be the better way to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm running ad in the Car Doctor till the next time.

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Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Car Doctor Carr advice

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Speaker 2: to ride