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Speaker 2: Using your example, speaking at conventions without pay, it's investing

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Speaker 2: At the next convention, the organizers could recognize you or

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with that, but go ahead what you

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Speaker 1: And the thing is a lot of poor people.

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Speaker 2: or whatever, then I can see how you would.

439
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: Be like, I don't like con.

440
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to a con that doesn't

441
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: do shit for me, and if you don't pay me,

442
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm not showing up, right, But I can also stee

443
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: away with someone could do like what we said, like, well,

444
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: we made we made some connections, we had a good time,

445
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: we got to meet our fans. We they paid for

446
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: the flight in the hotel, like they treated us well.

447
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: That I'm okay with this now.

448
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: We made up our mind before we even left the

449
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: house that we would be okay with that, right, and

450
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: it win as But but you know, if I could

451
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: see another way of looking at it as being negative.

452
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I think in that example that's the only

453
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 2: way I could relate it, because I don't think going

454
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: to the cons necessarily poor poor poor mentality versus rich

455
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: mentality mindset. But I think it's positive versus negative, Like

456
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: how do you want to view it?

457
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: Right? Right?

458
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: And in my mind there's nothing wrong with either way

459
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: because it's all an individual choice.

460
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean yeah.

461
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: Like also, I would not have a problem with someone

462
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: who said I didn't want to go, so I just

463
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: didn't go.

464
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: Correct.

465
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: The problem I have is the it's weird to me

466
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: when people do shit and then go, well, I went,

467
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: I didn't get paid, so fuck that thing. And I'm like,

468
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: but you knew that going in, But why right, why

469
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: do it if you weren't you know? But of course

470
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: with fan kind it was totally different. People thought people

471
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: anticipated getting paid and getting shipped and that didn't happen.

472
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's completely different because you allied to an

473
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 3: option of choice was almost was basically stripped.

474
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Sorry for the Longe comment, but this is an important

475
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: concept that a lot of people miss. Your inspiration.

476
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: Thanks for your working representation, No problem, Yeah, I definitely

477
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: agree with the whole like investing your time and paying dudes.

478
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 2: It's definitely something that people overlook because it's like I

479
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: didn't get paid. The problem is with the gig economy

480
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: and with the way that so many creatives kind of

481
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 2: they kind of promote this idea of visibility to people

482
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: by saying, if I'll.

483
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: Get you on my platform, you'll be visible.

484
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: So work for free, and a lot of people fall

485
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: for that shit and then end up regretting it because

486
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: they're promised something they're never gonna get, which is that

487
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: same attention and all this shit that the platforms give you.

488
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: And honestly, behind the scenes, we've turned down a lot

489
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: of opportunities from people who told us they were gonna

490
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: put us on something. All we had to do was

491
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: do some do a bunch of free work for them,

492
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: and then we would somehow magically get the attention at

493
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: the end. And we've said no to a lot of stuff.

494
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't do it for free. Why would I

495
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: say yes. I don't want to just turn around and

496
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: regret that time later, right.

497
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: Right, because time is money and money is down.

498
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: Even he says, I was an original backer for fan

499
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: Con and I planned to attend this weekend because I

500
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: loved going to cons and I believed in the vision

501
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: for an inclusive space for marginalized people. I retweeted post

502
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: and spread the word around this con, and I got

503
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: excited as more things were announced. Now I'm not out

504
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: of a lot of money like some of the people

505
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: who were intended to go. I'm a two hour drive

506
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: from Baltimore and I plan on stand with a friend.

507
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: My tickets were basically I guess free since an original backer.

508
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: That being said, it still doesn't lessen the frustration over

509
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: this situation when it seems like people knew they were

510
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: in financial straits long before they announced yup. It sounds

511
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: like they got in over their heads, didn't have a

512
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: heart they admitted. Also sounds like it was mismanaged due

513
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: to gross incompetence. Either way, that's fucked up, especially the

514
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: flipp it question and answer response. Everyone wanted to be

515
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: a cope funded UH co founder, but no one knew

516
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: how to hundle who'd handled the finances.

517
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Either you're a liar or you're stupid. Neither is a

518
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: good look. That's true too, and bold you could be bold. Yeah.

519
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: All that being said, a lot of people have hot

520
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: takes on this situation. One one I take issue with

521
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: is a podcast I listen to where a guy blamed

522
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: it on the fans.

523
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: Because exact words, where that's the problems with black.

524
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: People that we expect. They expect too much what they

525
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: all just expected. You promised too much. How you I

526
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: expected y'all to be able to put to do the

527
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: event the people.

528
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I think some people just want to dissolve responsibility.

529
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: Like they like, yeah, and and and I've said this,

530
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: I will continue to say that. I think you said before,

531
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: just because you're black and you do something does not

532
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: mean that the black community is obligated to support you.

533
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: And it does not mean the black community can't have

534
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 3: fucking the same standards they would have for any fucking

535
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: body else.

536
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: If they was to buy tickets to.

537
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: Any other con, they would have the same goddamn expectations

538
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: as they had for you. You promised me something, you

539
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: need to fucking deliver it. I don't give a fuck

540
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: that you're black. Deliver what you said you was gonna do,

541
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: or either don't make promises you can't keep.

542
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, nigga, we only we only expected what was promised.

543
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: Fuck out of here. With that bullshit. Don't blame the

544
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: fans and support it just from the beginning, right, how

545
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: are you gonna take my money?

546
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: And they be like, damn, you got some high expectations.

547
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: And the fuck up, fucked up part about that is

548
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: these same black people would have come out of their

549
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: pockets again if we were made aware fan Con was

550
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: having financial difficulties. I doubt I doubt fan Con will

551
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: be held at a later date. Too much trust has

552
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: been broken. Who would even want to attend?

553
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: Correct?

554
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the poll. Do you think Universal

555
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: fan Con is still gonna happen?

556
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: No? Careen says no, I want to see what you

557
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: gotta say in the chat.

558
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Yes, it was just prostponed seven percent, so percent, it's

559
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: never gonna happen. Ms CT says it's cowdere for the

560
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: co founders, co runners, executives and whoever the fuck, whoever

561
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: the fucks to bow out and simply claim that they

562
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: were loosely associated with the event. You big and bad

563
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: when everything's going well, but as soon as the ship

564
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: starts seeking you point fingers, get the fuck out of here.

565
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: I hope they get sued, wasting literally hundreds of thousands

566
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: of consumer dollars with nothing to show for it, and

567
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: then when the truth comes to light, you aren't even

568
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: owning up to your lack of planning and overreach.

569
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: Nah.

570
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: I hope they don't get any support from the masses

571
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: because they have completely lost the public trust. And I

572
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: hope the individuals that spent their money to come to

573
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: an event make the most of their time in the

574
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: area because they at least deserve to have a bomb ass.

575
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: We can, I think a lot of them.

576
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: All. You have pop up con and other all other

577
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: types of couns. You have people to live in the

578
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: areas that I like, doing bar crawls.

579
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Doing meats and greets and things like that.

580
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: So because some people go that, I got to go regardless,

581
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 3: because I can't get my money, my ticket, My shit

582
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: has already planned out. So a lot of people are

583
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: going to be in the city regardless. So there are

584
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: That's one thing about the community. The community is very,

585
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: very supportive. So I do agree if they would have

586
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: came out and but I hey, y'all, we sure they'd

587
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: have met that goal into more and still could have

588
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: went on and still could have did whatever it is

589
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: they need to accomplish.

590
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Episode sixteen sixty six, the Positive side of slavery. We

591
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 2: asked some comments. Mike and London says, in America, you

592
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: get food to eat, don't have to run through the

593
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: jungle and scuff up your feet. Raddy Newman song he

594
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: was being sarcastic. Uh, just an update this one, Steven,

595
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: he said, just update on the story about the Kansas

596
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: firefighter who spit on the black child and who was

597
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: in Kansas.

598
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: The guy's name is Terrence Jeremy Skien.

599
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: He initially suspended after he was initially suspended after being

600
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: charge for this incident. But apparently the fire department feels

601
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: there was a rush to judgment and has Ren stated him,

602
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: I ain't that's some ish. I definitely feel one hundred

603
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: percent fuck with behind this. H that's what they do.

604
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Anonymous says, Hey, I hope it don't sound like a jerk.

605
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: And also I'm not trying to change I guess the

606
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: race is played. I just wanted to share that Latinix

607
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: isn't a race, It's an ethnicity. Hence there are black,

608
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: black lieutenant's, Asian lautenants, white lieutenants. People obviously racist complex

609
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: and dominant culture the whites created race to make a

610
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: hierarchy with them on the top and everyone else below.

611
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Racial identity is further complicated because not every group of

612
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: people who fits neatly.

613
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Into a racial category, like Arab and Persian people.

614
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: Anyway, I wanted to voice this because I know a

615
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: lot of Afro Latinics people that both feel excluded from

616
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: black culture and LATINX people and Lautenants culture. And when

617
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Rod mentioned, you know, y'all New York motherfuckers, got that

618
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: got them real dass rules, y'all be letting people who

619
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: not black say nigga and shit, which I'll understood is humor.

620
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: It was got It really struck with me. It really

621
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: struck me. Anyway, I really wanted to say that there

622
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: are millions of people who are racially black and culture Latino,

623
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: even though they may not see themselves as black. That

624
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: has to do it the history of anti blackness and

625
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: specific to Latin America. Yeah, honestly, like we already know

626
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: all that. I mean, it's kind of like amar lanegra

627
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: on Love and Hip Hop Miami. But like if amar

628
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: La Negra did some shit, I guess the race, you know,

629
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: I would be like latinix uh and some people would

630
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: guess that. But at the same time, I mean, yes,

631
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: you could say black, Yes you could say Latin X,

632
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: you can say a lot of stuff. But the ultimate

633
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: part of a guess the race is the fun, right,

634
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: And you know it's not gonna fit neatly. We're not

635
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't we're not anthropologist whatever. You're not

636
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: trying to get everybody's like lineage and genealogy one hundred

637
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: percent correct. And if ultimately, if it's if we can

638
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: keep it fun and lighthearted and like that, then we

639
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: can we can play it. But you know, I don't

640
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: think we'll ever have a solution for this because race

641
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: is not a very neat construct in the first.

642
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: Place, right, and things like that takes the quote unquote

643
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: fun out of guessing the race.

644
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, we got these jokes, and that's

645
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: a segment that we were for.

646
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: The jokes, and that's a segment that we dedicate to

647
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: the jokes and whatnot. And uh yeah, so but I

648
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: definitely understand your point, and.

649
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: I do do it and and and those are things

650
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: that we can uh definitely understand and relate to. But

651
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: in the context of the game, we're racist, and you know,

652
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: you have to get it down to the bomb of ad.

653
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we're I mean, I guess you should never

654
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: really explain the joke, but I'm gonna explain something anyway,

655
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: y'all Like to me, the reason Guess the race is

656
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: funny is because it's a sarcastic commentary on race and

657
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: racism and how stupid it is.

658
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Correct. Like, it's not about being correct.

659
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: It's about the fact that we associate certain behaviors, certain

660
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: types of crime with race. It's about how race affects

661
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: our world, this stupid concept. Right, we are as corny

662
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: as it is. We are all human, you know what

663
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean. We are all one with race, but then

664
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, the world kind of breaks us into these actions,

665
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: factors or whatever.

666
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm not a person that would fight against that.

667
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: I think.

668
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: You know, obviously race may be a social construct, but

669
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: it affects my life, you know. So it's not So

670
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm sitting around like it shouldn't matter.

671
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, let's have some fun with it. It

672
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't just only be used as a cudgel. It shouldn't

673
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: only be using some bullshit. And we all think it

674
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: and we all do it. When we hear these news

675
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: stories when we see stuff on TV. That's why some

676
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: of the stories aren't even crimes and shit. It's just

677
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: like a person bought a fluffit bunny and then returned

678
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: it for credit, you know whatever. Like yeah, so we

679
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 2: like we have these things. So I mean, you know,

680
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: part of what we're doing here is comedy and to

681
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: be funny. So you know, if we started injecting that

682
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: into Guess the Race, then I feel like that segment

683
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: would not be funny because honestly, we could do that

684
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: with every story. It's not as simple as black and white.

685
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: It's not simple as brown. What if someone's viracial? What

686
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: are somebody's white passing LATINICX? What are somebody's uh, you know,

687
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: they're Asian but they're actually you know, Southeast Asian or

688
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: something like that. You know, we you know, we just

689
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, we just kind of, you know,

690
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: you can, we just kind of do it like that.

691
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Speaker 1: So it's you know, but I understand.

692
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: The point and and uh but uh, I guess in

693
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: my opinion, I would say probably took that a lot

694
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: more seriously from that joke than than we did.

695
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: So, right, and it's also things where a lot of

696
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: times people have these these because it's race race, so

697
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: people have these things and certain things kind of bring

698
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: these things up and out, and that's understandable. But in

699
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: the context of what we're doing, like you said, we're

700
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: not trying to to find out to the.

701
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Speaker 1: T and do a DNA test. We're just doing this

702
00:33:54,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: in general. Mm hmm. So Anna says, I'm being contrary.

703
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: I think there's a way to make the good side

704
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: of slavery assignment high like what slavery is really about,

705
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: and my classroom is the right answer would have been

706
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: one good good for the masters. They get to rape

707
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: someone three times, ain't no matter, no need to pay hookers.

708
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 1: Ye see, I don't want the kids doing that too good.

709
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't think.

710
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: I don't think if a kid fucking writes that on

711
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: the good side of slavery, I'm probably gonna have to

712
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: get that kid to f and be like, that's not

713
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: a good thing. Too good for farming, you could clear

714
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: large areas of land quickly when you could just work

715
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: people to death and then buy new ones a lot

716
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: faster than using horses for three free label means the

717
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: US could seal projects aboard a broad cheap compared to

718
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: local products e g. And England, no trade deficit. But

719
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: of course that's not how they would do it. Yet

720
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone doing it that way. I don't

721
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: want the third grader sitting around writing about rape and stuff.

722
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that sounds like something Miss Smart would be

723
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: okay with, But.

724
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: God damn it doing this to the kids.

725
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: Just teach the children what it was really like, and

726
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: don't you know, don't make them write down how it's

727
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: good or bad, because it's not good, you know, Jennica

728
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: says regarding the waffer House I imagine some little white

729
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: boy wrote that shit down and was smiling.

730
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: You would be mad as hell.

731
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: You get the rape, Oh they won't so good, kill people,

732
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: break up their families. I couldn't even think of the

733
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: bad side, Janka says regarding the waffle house shooting. I

734
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: used to live two minutes from where this happened. I

735
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: moved two weeks before this happened. A lot of people

736
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: around here are trying to say that it isn't racially motivated. Well,

737
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: this happened in the susburb of suburbs of Antioch, which

738
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: is now majority black and Latino.

739
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: Because hello, gentrification.

740
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: We've been pushing the ouskirts in Nashville because there's no

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: affordable living. So this guy goes to this waffle house

742
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: after a capita party nearby that night. And this ain't

743
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: about race how and the the man was within a

744
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: mile of the place where he was found by a

745
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: woman in the neighborhood and not the police, like where

746
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: were y'all looking?

747
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: This nigga was on foot.

748
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: Sorry, y'all, I'm just heated from all these white people

749
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: in my city. I hear you, Janka, And sorry that

750
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: happened in city, man. That's that's just the whole story

751
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: was just fucked up. And I heard that wilf House

752
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: is going to donate the next months of profits to

753
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: like the families of those people, although I'm like, who's

754
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: gonna show up to eat there?

755
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I like that because people's people have

756
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: been fucking boycotting and sh thing is this? I mean?

757
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: But they not boycotting that wilfire house. We talking about

758
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: the wife house where the people got shot by the

759
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: white boy, not.

760
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: The one, not the house too. Wife houses.

761
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, I've been saying that for years. What is the

762
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: positive side of slavery? There is none, or I can

763
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: think of something I write them in below ha ha

764
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: said there is none. Two percent said I can think

765
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: of something I write in.

766
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: Did the right any blow?

767
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: Brooklyn shoe Bay says the only positive slaver is that

768
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: some asshole has given me excuse to release my black

769
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 2: rage by even suggesting that bull. Carolyn Carolyn says positive

770
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: side mediucre, white people can pretend they're better than someone else. Homely,

771
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: white women can pretend they are sexually attracted to someone.

772
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't see how those are positive side? What is

773
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: what do y'all do about? You supposed that they gonna

774
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: be defined positive? That's not positive.

775
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: With y'all.

776
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: Man.

777
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: It was like, it's it's a little bit of such shining. No, no,

778
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: it's not. What does that mean? Cold? Agree? Yeah?

779
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: So anyway, a safe space for white people is the

780
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: next episode? Uh, sixteen sixty seven. I gotta wait for

781
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: this page to low for some reasons, little kind slow Uh.

782
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: But it was when we talked about that dude that

783
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: had the class for white people, for white men, he

784
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: was gonna teach me he was a white dude. There

785
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: was what else we talked about. We talked about Meek

786
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: Mill getting out of jail. Lauren Hill's going on tour,

787
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: so we'll see these comments. Anonymous says, what a twist.

788
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: You know the part of the show about the hooligans

789
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: that killed a twenty two year old black man by

790
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: throwing sandbag off a bridge in the trade.

791
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: First, what a way to die? I had to google

792
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: the story.

793
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Second, the teams that will not be going to jail

794
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: but instead of going to you facility are black. Now

795
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: that's interesting because the person in the chat at the

796
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: time said they was white.

797
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: What is the real truth? I watched a clip of

798
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: the courtroom footage and those arms are very brown.

799
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: And another turn of events, there were several white teams

800
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: in Michigan place a second degree murder charged for killing

801
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: the white father of four by throwing rocks off of an.

802
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: Interstate in the traffic. I don't know how I feel

803
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: about any of this.

804
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: Rider can im and currently pissed that these men were

805
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: just riding down the street.

806
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Minor business are killed because of us stupid ass children.

807
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 2: At the same time, I know that if these brown

808
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: chipers going to the prison system that never get out.

809
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving this a swift hundred raised. Your son's people.

810
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, I paused the show the leader's comment because you

811
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: were both pondering on the race of the kids.

812
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, back to my favorite segment, fucking with.

813
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Speaker 2: Black people, love y'all, cheeky hippie, Thank you, cheeky hippie

814
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: than you tired MF says, what's happening in canfolks?

815
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want shit. I just I don't want shit.

816
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Speaker 2: I just wanted y'all to know there's a Cheddars in

817
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Speaker 2: universities right off of eighty five and what w T Harris.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend it, but a ha ha, but it's

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Speaker 2: there off in the cut in case you wanted to

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Speaker 2: write a distinguished Yelp review of it, I will see.

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Speaker 3: Never heard of Chat's honey, it ain't like that new

822
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Speaker 3: damn shake Shack.

823
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Speaker 1: That line was fucking long, nigga.

824
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: The shake Shack line that shit was longer than the

825
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Speaker 2: fan con refund line that shit was.

826
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Speaker 1: It was literally wrapped around the building like twice. I

827
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Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck? I was like, what is this?

828
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Speaker 2: Somebody on I said, man, I just drove by that,

829
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: and somebody on Twitter was like, yeah, I just went

830
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: to the one that Charlotte Ready forty five minutes. I said, hey, man,

831
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: when next time you're in line, can you text me,

832
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Speaker 2: tweet me and then you can get me a burger.

833
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: I can pick it up right, so I ain't waiting

834
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: that fucking line.

835
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Speaker 3: We rode past it because it's brand new, because we've

836
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: heard people talk about it online but we've never had one,

837
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Speaker 3: and they just opened up one like we've been kind

838
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Speaker 3: of spotting it out.

839
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, it must be open.

840
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: Also mad devices on Twitter when I said that line

841
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: was on, people were like, it ain't worth shit, it's trash.

842
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why they waiting. The fries ain't shit.

843
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: The shakes is good, Da da da our whole bunch

844
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: of the and other people. This is the greatest one.

845
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: It's the best. That's because it's the best burger. I

846
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Speaker 2: don't know.

847
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Speaker 1: I need to try just to find out where the

848
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: fuck we're telling the truth.

849
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: Maybe one day we'll try and honey on it. I

850
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: don't know when they're gonna have off time.

851
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Had to steak out. I don't know.

852
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: Brooklyn shoe Ba says, oh, I loved your riff on

853
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: the white cop being racist because black people will calling

854
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: him a cracker. Or some such thing they reminded me

855
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: of when I was a teen in the late eighties

856
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: watching a very special episode about racism on twenty one

857
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: Jump Street and it one of the kids yelled gray

858
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: boy as a racial slur towards a white undercover cop. Grandmother,

859
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: who was in her late fifties at the time, looked

860
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: up from her newspaper laugh and said, oh, I ain't heard.

861
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: That one in a long time. Great boy, Yeah, that's

862
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: a good one.

863
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: I've never heard of that one, and I've heard some

864
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 3: being downside. We heard a lot of old school slang.

865
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Seriously, what racial slurs are black people saying the white

866
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: people to upset them?

867
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Right?

868
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Speaker 2: Sincerely, booklet shoe Babe, Yeah, it's white people want to

869
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: be oppressed, though, bad timmany says, Hey, Karen Rod, listening

870
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: to this episode, y'all's take on the class on this

871
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: class for clear folks to educate themselves changed my initial

872
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: thoughts on it, and for that I'm grateful. And it

873
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: also made me think of an app that's my very

874
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: own cousin has developed for instances as such. The app

875
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: is called AAMA Anonymously asking minority anything. I'm a terrible

876
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: relative because I haven't even downloaded it, but here y'all

877
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: discuss this face made me think about it.

878
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: I definitely feel y'all.

879
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: When you say you wouldn't want to be the person

880
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: to talk with them about this, but it definitely needs

881
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: to happen if and only if you have a chance

882
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: to check it out.

883
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: I apologize this comes off as a plug.

884
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: It's not a passing along to these ignorant sons of

885
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: bitches in their places of privilege because somebody has.

886
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: To teach them. And I like that. Nine one one

887
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: operator says, I ain't got the time for that. Lol.

888
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Stavelast. And when y'all come to Houston, please let it

889
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: be known. I've got a great brunch spot to take

890
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: y'all to Tiffany. Thank you, Tim, h Town, Michelle, right soon, Rod,

891
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: and Caron. I recently found out the singer Jeffrey Osborne,

892
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: popular in the eighties, is a vegan now and highly

893
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: recommends drinking alkaline water. Oh, are y'all trying to accuse

894
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: Jeffery Osborne of be in a hotel?

895
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: Hope?

896
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: I hope that's not.

897
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: I mean, look Tom Brady on that alkaline water shit too,

898
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: So it's Gwyneth Paltrow. So, I mean, maybe it doesn't

899
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: mean you a hotel. I mean, but I don't know

900
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: the hotels is on that sh it too, So I

901
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: don't know that's that's horrible news. That's the only thoughts

902
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: I have, right, But I hope he's doing well, and

903
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: I hope he's not out here saying problematic things. I

904
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: don't I don't mind him drinking alcohol whatever. It doesn't

905
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: come with a side of like him being like my

906
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: black queens, I'm gonna need job that, you know what

907
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean. Other than that, I'm good. So even he

908
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: says I suppose to safe place, safe space for white

909
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: men as well intentioned, it's basically what Tim Wise has

910
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: been doing for years.

911
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know.

912
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: That's what I hear. Like, I don't really follow this,

913
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing. There's white people that do these

914
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: this stuff, And honestly, I don't have a problem with

915
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: those white people. I think a lot of times people

916
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: that do have a problem to white people, a lot

917
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: of it does stem from jealousy.

918
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: Right, I'm just madn't listen to niggas saying the same right,

919
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: and resentment, But that's more of a problem with whiteness.

920
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: Than those specific people, because if it wasn't them and

921
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: it was only black people allowed to talk about it.

922
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: Then it would just be a bunch of white people

923
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: ignoring those black people. It's just it just sucks. It

924
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: sucks that life is that way. But that's the human

925
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: experience I've experienced. Is this people being like, well, learn

926
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: this thing from this black person. No, I'm racist, and

927
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: I refuse, and then some white person says the same thing,

928
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, that makes perfect sense. Now I'll

929
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: go listen to black people. And I'm like, well, you

930
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: could have skipped the middleman and went straight to the source.

931
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: But there's something about that, something about racism is so stupid.

932
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: You really do need to funnel it through like this

933
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: lens of whiteness or it won't happen, you know.

934
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: It's so it sucks, and I do understand the resentment there.

935
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm glad this dude's teaching

936
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: this class because my black aass ain't never gonna do it,

937
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: And a lot of these white dudes ain't never gonna

938
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: show up for a class led by black people unless

939
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: they went to that white one first.

940
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Correct.

941
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Uh, the white man anti racism class, get out there,

942
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: bad or man. Thirty seven percent say it's a good idea,

943
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: leven says say bad idea, and fifty three percent man

944
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: MIKEA and London says maybe it's the same as when

945
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: we work with the male perpetrators of domestic violence and

946
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: abuse against their partners.

947
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: It has to be an all male group of perps.

948
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: They learn together. It wouldn't work if we had victims

949
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: in the room with them.

950
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: And if you're going to change them, the class cannot

951
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: be about punishing them.

952
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: You can only do one of those two things at

953
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: a time.

954
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: They may have already been punished under the law, or

955
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: they may be attending voluntarily. But the class is about

956
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: educating their attitudes to women in violence, not about punishing them.

957
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: I guess maybe this is a similar perpetrators or racism class.

958
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: I thought your discussion on the white men class is

959
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: really good in balance, thanks Mike. And yet that's kind

960
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: of my point is if imagine a woman who had

961
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: been assaulted or something was in that room listening to

962
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: those guys give their perspective and then you know and

963
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: then be challenged on it, I can imagine a lot

964
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: of women being like I one this is a traumatic

965
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: situation for me.

966
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Now your education.

967
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: Is coming at my expense, which many people it's been

968
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: a complaint I've seen on the internet a lot of places.

969
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: We don't want to feel the negative side of you

970
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: getting to be a better person learning from us, right,

971
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: and which I understand. Then let's say that I was

972
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 2: up to the task quote unquote. Now I'm a victim

973
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: of these things, and I do want to educate people.

974
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: They may not receive it.

975
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: From me in the way that they would from another male,

976
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, or something like that, you know someone or

977
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: someone who's been through it before. Like, there's also that

978
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: part of it. There's a I think what it is

979
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: to me is and this is just the way my

980
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: mind works. There's a lot of paths to.

981
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: The same goal. Yeah, don't care how you get there,

982
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: just get to the goal. I care that.

983
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: I do care that there is access to the past

984
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: because the goal is more important than my ego in

985
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: my opinion. So I don't you know, it's kind of

986
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: way I view podcasting where it's like I might not

987
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: like the way another show does their thing.

988
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: I might not like the show. I might not listening

989
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: to the show.

990
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: But let's say that via them, someone was able to

991
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: find out more about you know, black culture or something,

992
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: or they were able to to.

993
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: To learn more about their history or something. Then I'm

994
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: good with that me too.

995
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: I can't you know, that's some control freak shit that

996
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: it can only happen one way because everybody ain't gonna

997
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: listen to the same people. Missus CT says Mike, and

998
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: London brings up a good point, and I appreciate that

999
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: this white man is self aware and acknowledge.

1000
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: This privilege and wants to use it for good.

1001
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 2: I just feel a way about a white man feeling

1002
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: like they are woken up to speak on my behalf.

1003
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: He may not be able to sympathize with the person

1004
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: or of minority, but he will never be able to

1005
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: empathize or place himself on our shoes. I just feel like,

1006
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: I just feel like in this day and age, people

1007
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: should be able to adapt with the time and learn

1008
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: as they go. Black people don't have a luxury of

1009
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: separating themselves from the world as a measure of self protection,

1010
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: So why should we tolerate a white only space. I

1011
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: don't know, man on Torm, but I'm leaning towards a

1012
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: noe bro. Yeah, I hear you, but then to me,

1013
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: I guess the way I view it is, then it

1014
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: just they don't learn and they don't like I think.

1015
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: I think there's this alternative that people are presenting of like, well, look,

1016
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: they won't learn from this guy.

1017
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: They'll just pick it up as they go.

1018
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: And I don't think people are recognizing the insulation of whiteness.

1019
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Let me put it this way, as a man. As

1020
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: a man, right, men will.

1021
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: Come up to me sometimes and be like, because I

1022
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: listen to your podcast, it taught me how to be

1023
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: a better ally, or I learned to love women differently,

1024
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: or now me and my wife we have a different

1025
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: type of relationship than before. I used to listen to

1026
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: a show and now and they'll thank me and shit

1027
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: like that, And it is weird feeling. It is weird

1028
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: because I've never set out to do that with the show.

1029
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: That's not a pose. Yeah, I've never got on the

1030
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: mic and been like, I'm gonna teach these me and

1031
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: how to like. It's just that's if you knew me,

1032
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: you would know how anti my that My entire being

1033
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: the idea of mentoring or teaching men anything, teaching people

1034
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: anything is kind of like not in my wheelhouse necessarily,

1035
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: but I am glad that that if that's a byproduct,

1036
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: unintentionally or whatever, I'm super glad because I don't know

1037
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: where else they were gonna get it, Because if they

1038
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 2: were waiting on, if they were if it got down

1039
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: to my podcast, me and Karen's podcast, if it got

1040
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: down to this, and that was the thing that helped you.

1041
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how many other things you walked by

1042
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: and went I don't need to learn that. But what

1043
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: I do know as a man in America, as a

1044
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: Black man in America, is how insulated I can be

1045
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: in my misogyny, in my homophobia, in my transphobia, in

1046
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: my xenophobia.

1047
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: You can be so insulated.

1048
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: And maybe it's hard for people outside of that insulation

1049
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: to imagine it is, but it feels like since people

1050
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: outside of it deal with the consequences of this isolation,

1051
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just answered my own question. So

1052
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: you know how the other day, how how racist people

1053
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: don't never get tired of being racist?

1054
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: Right?

1055
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: That's the answer is the insulation. The insulation allows you

1056
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: to not to not be fatigued because you're not. It's

1057
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 2: not an experience for you. It's a way of life.

1058
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: It's a disconnection, right, So that's to me, is the

1059
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: same thing like as a man, if I decide to

1060
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: navigate my life in a way where I when I

1061
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: played basketball, I'm always talking about bitch is this bitch is?

1062
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 5: Dad?

1063
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: Did you see this whole Look at this bitch up

1064
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: here on this thing. I'll look at that ass. No

1065
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: man that I know of, for the most part, no

1066
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: man would ever stop to correct me, unless I was

1067
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: talking about his daughter or some family member.

1068
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: He would never.

1069
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: Stop to say, hey, man, that's kind of fucked up, right.

1070
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: You know, I've been in rooms where people have said

1071
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: something and I feel like the weirdo to be like,

1072
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: all right, I guess I'm gonna have to be the

1073
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: one to say that's kind of what's funny. Is a

1074
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: lot of times when I say that's kind of weird

1075
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: or whatever, people will then start to be like, yeah,

1076
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: I did think that was kind of weird.

1077
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: What was he talking about? Why would you say that?

1078
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: You know, And especially when I'm making jokes or mocking somebody,

1079
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: and a lot of times people will be like.

1080
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm on his side. He funny, you know.

1081
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: But the point, the point of the matter is whiteness

1082
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: I assume operates a lot like like like you know,

1083
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: since head maleness.

1084
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: If I don't want.

1085
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: To learn, and I and and and and there is

1086
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: no place where I'm attracted to go to learn, I

1087
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: just won't, right, you know, And it won't be of

1088
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: any real consequence to me to not learn, Like I

1089
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: only make other people's lives worse than by not knowing.

1090
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't really make my life better or worse by knowing,

1091
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: but I do make other people's lives worse by being

1092
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: a piece of shit, an unrepented piece of shit. So

1093
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: I guess to me, those are the alternatives. It's not

1094
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: an other alternative out here where like n they'll learn

1095
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: as they go. Why would they ever want to learn

1096
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: as they go? If you know, I don't see it

1097
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: that way. I see it as like the people that

1098
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: want to learn but may be scared or whatever the fuck,

1099
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: they need a space to go learn where they might

1100
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 2: be scared, and it might not be around us.

1101
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: Right and for the fact that they have the willingness

1102
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: to learn is something else, and you can't beat them

1103
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 3: off because, like you said, niggas is like I don't.

1104
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Want to teach you LGBTQ.

1105
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: I don't want Okay, y'all don't want to Okay, we're

1106
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: not requiring you to teach you what who wants to

1107
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: teach them?

1108
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: We don't want to white folks to teach them. But

1109
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: then how the fuck are they gonna learn?

1110
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel I feel very compelled to

1111
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: say this is a thing that is needed in society.

1112
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: It is, you know, I just don't. I don't think

1113
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: it's the kind of thing where we can just go, yeah, well,

1114
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: let's just keep going.

1115
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: The way it is. If we agree problem, if we if.

1116
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: You're listening to this and you agree that racism is

1117
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: not for black people to fix, and we're constantly calling

1118
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: on white people to get your educate, your on your own,

1119
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: control your own this is your problem.

1120
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: Y'all got all the power, and y'all.

1121
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: The one saying this bullshit. Then I feel like it's

1122
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: imperative that they that they do it. So this guy's

1123
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: doing it, I'm saying, you got pat on the back,

1124
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: but like go, like, yes, go do that shit.

1125
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: I want to do it. But that's my feeling, you know.

1126
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: And if there's a white podcast right now that educates

1127
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: white people on how not to be racist and be

1128
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: better allies and all this shit. And let's say they

1129
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: rise the promise they become the biggest podcast of all time.

1130
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: There would be a lot of black podcasts that will

1131
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: resent them.

1132
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: And I relate to the idea of feeling a way

1133
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: about it, because it's the horrible unfairness of white supremacy

1134
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: that only a white podcast would be the one that

1135
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: would get the spotlight, you know, for doing the same

1136
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: work that many black people have done.

1137
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: I would understand that.

1138
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't begrudge anyone for feeling that way, But

1139
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: my personal conviction would be, like, I'm still glad that

1140
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: they fucking exist to do that, because make better white

1141
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: people like we don't.

1142
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: It's not really up to us to do that.

1143
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: And I'm damn sure I'm not gonna spend my fucking

1144
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: time doing that shit.

1145
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's thankless.

1146
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: For one and nobody even agrees on which way to

1147
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 2: do it, So I mean, like, what's the point.

1148
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: And if you get paid off of it, motherfuckers really

1149
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: hate you.

1150
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 2: It's just no fucking point to it, all right, Last

1151
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 2: One Poop Train episode sixteen sixty eight.

1152
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: We cover it all here at the blackout tips all

1153
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: of it. Lama Lama time says being Carson and people

1154
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: like him are cruel. I work at a housing nonprofit.

1155
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: The story tennants share make me fucking live it because

1156
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: if systems were better, the scenarios people calling about would

1157
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: be improved. We run a renters' rights hotline. Renters were

1158
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: oh well, Renters call in to ask questions. We primarily

1159
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: serve those who are low income, disabled of color, and

1160
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: immigrant slash refugees. Callers generally work two or more jobs

1161
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: if they receive rental subsidies. They are so minimal, like

1162
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: two people living off of seven hundred and ninety dollars

1163
00:54:59,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: a month.

1164
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: The fuck uh.

1165
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: Portland is gentrifying quickly, and since landlords tend to be

1166
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: assos drunk off of power time and time again, marginalized

1167
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: people are exploited. Poor people are living in rat infested

1168
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: moldy the best of those buildings. Yeh see that's the

1169
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: other thing. A lot of these places that have like

1170
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: the government housing shit, they basically use it. Look at

1171
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: it like privatized business, Like the less I spend, the

1172
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: more people I get in here, the more money I make.

1173
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: Come on, Like, you know, it's not always a good thing.

1174
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Same thing with foster homes, Like sometimes it's good, but sometimes.

1175
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: It's just money to people and being, And I mean

1176
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: it's one of the problems with capitalism.

1177
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: We look at so much things it's just money, that

1178
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: we don't treat people as humans and being. Carson and

1179
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: many people like him think the answer is to make

1180
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: struggling people pay more. Also, many people living with disabilities

1181
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: don't report it because they don't want.

1182
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: To deal with the stigma.

1183
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: Receiven government a fuck off, Ben, but mil seventy three says, well, shit.

1184
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: The Blackoutis podcast regularly discusses rarefied and pressing and shit

1185
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: of all time, all the time, social justice, cause, historical blackness,

1186
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 2: LGBTQYA issues, political intrigue, international diplomacy, beyonce ism. But rarely

1187
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 2: do y'all talk about the shit I do for a living.

1188
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: I work in in wastewater, and I was more than

1189
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: a little excited when you guys talked about the poop train.

1190
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: Not that anyone ask and no one really ask ever,

1191
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 2: But let me just spell some misconceptions about the poop train. Okay,

1192
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: break it down, brother, What was in the train from

1193
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: New York was not technically pooped, but drive solids or

1194
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: sludge that is produced after wastewater has been treated. When

1195
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: shit flows from toilets into sewage punt into the sewage plant,

1196
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: wastewater treatment basically separates the liquids from the solids. The

1197
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: process uses bacteria to break down the liquids even further

1198
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: to extract as much as of the solace from the streams.

1199
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: The solids are then digested in a process that generates methane,

1200
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: which is usually reused in the treatment plant and place

1201
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: the natural gas and more inert solids. These solads are

1202
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: then de watered into such refuge, which is basically like

1203
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: a washing machine tumble cycle on meth What you are

1204
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 2: left with is a black, crumbly, mostly inert solid known

1205
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: as biosolid, which can be used as topsoil. I say

1206
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: mostly inert because there's a classification system that determines where

1207
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: these biosolaces can be disposed of or reused, depending on

1208
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: the type of treatment up front. This stuff is good

1209
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: for landfills because it can generate the land. It can

1210
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: regenerate the land.

1211
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: And bring it back to a more natural state.

1212
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: New York City, with its high population density, probably does

1213
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: not have a land space and close proximity to spread

1214
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: these bio solids objectively speak speaking the older obviously usually

1215
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: has a more earthy tone than to it than raw shit.

1216
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: But tell people that they are looking at the byproduct

1217
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: of treatment of human waste, and they.

1218
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: Will smell shit a meal.

1219
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well they couldn't play them games outside,

1220
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the noses of the people

1221
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: that live there. I know this is your industry. I'm

1222
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: not trying to knock your expertise.

1223
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go them nose hands was singing. Yeah, maybe uh,

1224
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: maybe it rained, Maybe it sat too long. I don't know, bro,

1225
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe the heat.

1226
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 2: Got to it, you know, maybe maybe you know, maybe

1227
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: it's like that for breeze commercial. You work around it

1228
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: so much you don't need to smell it no more. I

1229
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: don't know, but it sounded like that town was suffering,

1230
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: and I guarantee.

1231
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: Them with some black people.

1232
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: Uh even, he says, I believe that a bad boss

1233
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: would make you sick. My boss stressed me out so

1234
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: bad I went into premature labor shit. I can imagine, though,

1235
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't thang far fet sh at all.

1236
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: The poe was have you ever dealt with a racist

1237
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: dress code while going out? Yes or no? Forty seven

1238
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: percent Yes, no surprise. But then again, we did have

1239
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: that time where you guys said, y'all don't leave a house.

1240
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh nit, we got some comments, Lamar says. I voted no,

1241
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: but I don't go out.

1242
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: See, I knew it.

1243
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: Stay out on my poll. Next time, I gotta put

1244
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: if you don't go out, leave stay out the poe.

1245
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: I really got what that. I really y'all gott to

1246
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: fuck up my science, Raven. I mean then it even

1247
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: asked when while going out. While going out, you should

1248
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: have just not voted, Lamar, why would you do this

1249
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: to me?

1250
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: Man?

1251
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: I've shown you nothing but love and you would just

1252
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: fuck up my whole scientific process.

1253
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: You guys, Raven says.

1254
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: Bouncers almost didn't let me go into a lives because

1255
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: I was wearing jeans and a white baby T shirt.

1256
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: The only reason I was eventually let in because I

1257
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: texted my white sister in law that it was happening.

1258
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: She got that first and was waiting for me, so

1259
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: she came outside to get me and was wearing pretty

1260
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: much the same thing I had on. She snapped at

1261
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: the bouncers told them to let me in, and.

1262
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: They did shout out to white women.

1263
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Using that privilege for good tom Okay, she went out

1264
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: there and gave spoke to a manager and fixed everything.

1265
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: Rockstar leaves a long as comment, let's do this story.

1266
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm from LA and my friends and I have experienced

1267
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: racism for what we warned since about junior high school.

1268
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: There are numerous occasions that I can speak on, but

1269
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: I will only mention.

1270
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: Some of my phase.

1271
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: I used to stay about an hour from six Flags

1272
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: Magic Mountain and had season passed since junior high. My

1273
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 2: tenth grade, I went to six Flags a week before

1274
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: my birthday.

1275
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: I walked through the metal detech. There's nothing happened. I

1276
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: pulled out of the crowd for random questioning, dumb questions

1277
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: like why am I.

1278
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Wearing a certain color? Why did I come to the park,

1279
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: how did you get here, et cetera, et cetera. They

1280
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: let me in the park and I had no incidents

1281
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: for the rest of the day, but of course I

1282
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: was salty for the racist treatment. I go back the

1283
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: next week on my birthday. This time they take me

1284
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: out of my group. They lead me to a door,

1285
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: tell me to open it, and I'm saying I'm not

1286
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: opening shit. The door says employees, Only, you're not about

1287
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: to say that. I tried to enter unauthorized area and

1288
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: then try to arrest me. I didn't know what to

1289
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: expect because they wouldn't let anyone for my group come

1290
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: with me. They opened the door, one officer walks in,

1291
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: then I followed, Then I followed the remaining cops behind me.

1292
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: Keep in mind they're five cops and me in this

1293
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: dimly lit room. They pull out a pin and pat

1294
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: and try to grill me with questions asking what gang

1295
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: are you in, Why do you have a dou rag on?

1296
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: Do you have any tattoos? They keep going back to

1297
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 1: me being from a gang.

1298
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: They said, if you don't take off your shirt to

1299
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: verify that you don't have any tattoos, you won't be

1300
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: able to come in the park.

1301
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: Just to go to fucking six Flags. We will be.

1302
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: Arrested in California, we will be arrested. Immediately after this

1303
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: was said, I smiled and took off the shirt. For

1304
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: two reasons, I didn't want to inconvenience any everybody and

1305
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: I was with I was with him.

1306
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: Two, I knew I had a lawsuit.

1307
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: Six Flass had a big problem in the late nineties

1308
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: and early two thousand racial profiling. I joined the class

1309
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: action lawsuit and collected about three thousand dollars. I didn't

1310
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 2: get harassed like some of the others, so I don't

1311
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: I didn't get as big of a play payoff.

1312
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: Shit. That's still super fucked up, right.

1313
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, you got to think with the blood and

1314
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: the cribs and shit like that.

1315
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: But let people just come into your fucking park, you

1316
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

1317
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: Like at that point, what what are you really you know,

1318
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: at that point, I guess it's like, what are you

1319
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: really saying?

1320
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1321
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: Like, did you walk in there? It was that the

1322
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: thing you walked in there and they could.

1323
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Just kill They still coming out play like this. Yeah, yay, niggas,

1324
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: get on these motherfucking road Coast be listen up.

1325
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: But we have to get on these motherfucking I don't

1326
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: know why. I don't know why. Like La niggas to

1327
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: me sound like the West Coast niggas sound like down

1328
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: South niggas.

1329
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: To me, we all sound the saying.

1330
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: We all sound the same, just a little different, but

1331
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 3: we all sound the same.

1332
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: Buster Uh. Anyway, Uh, if that's how you walked in,

1333
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I understand if you had music. You got a missing Net's.

1334
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: Throw back Red Bulls jersey, even though you're from l

1335
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: A and you walked in and all the heroines.

1336
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: I wish your nigga would I wish your nigga would

1337
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: pull him to that right there. Don't get that music.

1338
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: We got questions. We got questions.

1339
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: Uh. One time, my buddies and I went out to

1340
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 2: a sports bar and a friend got tony entry for

1341
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: having a Broncos jersey.

1342
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: Y'all.

1343
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: He took that off and a white T shirt and

1344
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: they said, no white T shirt. Someone had another shirt

1345
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: in the car. Finally we were let in. You're asking

1346
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: why did we go back? You say, let's just say

1347
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: a lot of ladies that there was a lot of

1348
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: ladies that could be having our babies.

1349
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: Dix is the enemy, man, y'all. Niggas lost all self respects.

1350
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: I deal with some racism if it gave me some pussy,

1351
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh man. Black men be making that choice for their

1352
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: whole lives, ain't they? Oh my god? Then they get

1353
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: old there, But like pussy, ain't that important? Mmm?

1354
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: Not?

1355
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Always?

1356
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: A lot of them still out there on the sunken place. Lastly,

1357
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: my best they come.

1358
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: Out of that place because you get pussy from anywhere.

1359
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: It ain't ain't that boyed out here dealing with that

1360
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: sism ain.

1361
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: Worth getting shot nine folk. Believe you me, It's plenty

1362
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: of pussy in the seat.

1363
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm the pappy.

1364
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: Lastly, my best friend had called ahead of the club

1365
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: name led you to the reserve tables and bottles for

1366
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: his birthday. Side note, we're not new to this club.

1367
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: The club is located in Hollywood Boulevard and cops are

1368
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: always there by on the weekends. I never quite liked

1369
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: this club because it seemed like they always had a

1370
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: quota on how many black people could come in.

1371
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to have a spoiler alert on this,

1372
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: but let me tell you something they probably did.

1373
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: Correct made it get then running we would getting we

1374
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: get in the club, the doorman says, my friend is

1375
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: a dress correctly and denied us entry the cold parties.

1376
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: We were dressed like every other cracker walking up to

1377
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: the building.

1378
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: In La you could pretty much wear what you want

1379
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: to wear no matter where you are, as long as

1380
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: you pay to play. I've been to plenty of places

1381
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: where you slide the doorman a little something extra and

1382
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: you keep it pushing. Long story short, the police walked up.

1383
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: The doorman says, we have to leave. He doesn't give

1384
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: us a clear reason why. My friend gets loud due

1385
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: to the bullshit happened on his birthday.

1386
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: The cops didn't like how my friend was talking to them.

1387
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: They pulled out their stun guns to tell my friend

1388
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: not to take one step further or they would use

1389
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: a stun gun.

1390
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: He took a step, they used the stun guns.

1391
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: I had to wait in Hollywood for the rest of

1392
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: the night while my buddy went to the hospital and

1393
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: got stun gun hooks removed and got booked and pros.

1394
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is the situation could have ended much

1395
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: worse based on today's interactions.

1396
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: With the cops. More a little story.

1397
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: Don't celebrate birthdays in public while in la Q with

1398
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: the great work ride of care.

1399
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: Damn, you got some stories on me and I'm sorry

1400
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: to happen your.

1401
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: Friend and I'm situations baby.

1402
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: Real talk.

1403
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: We did get some voicemails. Let me see if I

1404
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: can play these bad boys.

1405
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: Then we got.

1406
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 5: Three riding Karen. Let me tell you something. This is

1407
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 5: Kiara you know, I usually leave messages on the website

1408
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 5: or something, but I had to call in because I

1409
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 5: was not prepared for the Taylor Swift nonsense that happens.

1410
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: On my phone via the bluetooth speaker.

1411
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 5: Let me take you something, rot because I know you

1412
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 5: picked that shit out. It wasn't even Karen because Karen

1413
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 5: didn't want to hear it.

1414
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: Something.

1415
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: You need to prepare us before you put some bullshit

1416
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 5: like that on the speakers, like we're not ready. We're

1417
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 5: ready for these other average white people to come out

1418
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 5: here and sing some ships. That's horrible without productance and

1419
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: money and all of that. But what we are not

1420
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 5: prepared for it is Taylor swipsed to be on our phone.

1421
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 5: Now listen here next time. Let there not be a

1422
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 5: next time, but next time, could.

1423
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: You send a warning flag?

1424
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 5: Could you spend a batmobile, send a pigeon with a

1425
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 5: note rolled up in the mountain, do something because we

1426
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 5: can't we can't handle it. Okay, Now, I got the

1427
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 5: notes on day, but I'm gonna go ahead and save

1428
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 5: that for the webs, so I'll talk to y'all later.

1429
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: Thank you. Please alight, well deal.

1430
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: Changing NUMBERSOO.

1431
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: The key that our shows singing day, there come that part.

1432
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: Everybody sing along? Bye, say that you man man dancing

1433
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: next September never was a cloud day.

1434
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: I run these streets, Okay, I run these covers. Don't

1435
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: you ever call up here and tell me what to

1436
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: play on my show? Okay, I'm the one how the keyboard. Now,

1437
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: if y'all walk to play nice, we can play nice.

1438
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: But if it's gonna be some threats up here, then it's.

1439
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: Gonna be more of this.

1440
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: I have an unlimited, inexhaustible supply of white people because

1441
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: they can't stop stealing our ship. Okay, anytime I can

1442
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: hit that button, so let's keep it. Let's keep it cordial. Okay,

1443
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: keep it cute. We don't need no program directors up here. Okay,

1444
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: to you, you want to.

1445
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: You want talk, there's a repeat button right.

1446
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 6: Here we can. We can move on when you're ready.

1447
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 6: I can do this all day.

1448
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,520
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, all right, next voicemail.

1449
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe and nerve these people. I don't know

1450
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: which one of these is first season ass music.

1451
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: I guess the one of the top is first. Alright,

1452
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: we'll see this.

1453
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 7: So I was riding the high.

1454
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 8: I've seen avengers and TANGI wore, and then.

1455
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: It's just like bullshit just keeps happening, And I just

1456
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 4: want to say that.

1457
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 8: I really appreciate you guys for not like when a story,

1458
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 8: a hot story comes out that you guys don't always.

1459
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,959
Speaker 4: Jump on it right away.

1460
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 8: And you wait until some more effects come out or

1461
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 8: you don't hit the story, just like with pure emotions.

1462
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 8: Because like I was upset earlier this week after they said.

1463
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 7: You know, then now Bill Konzby was charged or found guilty,

1464
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 7: and I was happy about that, and then my cousins

1465
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 7: and my family text groups, they're.

1466
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 4: Like, oh, Bill Cozy, he's been charged.

1467
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 8: And I was like thumbs up.

1468
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 7: And then it just like went downhill from there and

1469
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 7: they're like oh.

1470
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 4: And there was like selling all this old bullshit that

1471
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: I was already found nothing to be true, and I

1472
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 4: was like are y'all? I was like, what what is

1473
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: happening here?

1474
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 7: And then I just told them all.

1475
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 4: That I was really really disappointed in them. And then

1476
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: you know, we're going back and forth and you're like, well,

1477
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 4: disagreed to disagree this, so like the argument would stop,

1478
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, how are you doing? Agreed to

1479
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 4: disagree about fact? I was like, y'all are stounding stuff

1480
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 4: without emotion. I'm giving you the fact.

1481
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 7: And then my mama jumped in, Like.

1482
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 4: Earlier in the conversation, I was really disappointed in her,

1483
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 4: and then I had a talk with her face to face.

1484
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, did you even read any of

1485
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 4: the articles about what's what's going on? What's it cost me?

1486
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: She's like, oh, not really, I was like. And then

1487
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 4: I was like, well, fyn, you didn't even say that

1488
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: if you don't know all the facts.

1489
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 7: But and then my brother sent me something just.

1490
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 4: Now oh.

1491
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: Oh, got got out all right. She left another one too.

1492
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.

1493
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for this long message you guys, And it

1494
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 4: just brings back all the memories because I got really

1495
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: mad at my mom. Was like, we have cousins and

1496
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 4: our families who were abuse when their kids and their

1497
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 4: moms didn't believe them. And it doesn't matter when these

1498
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 4: women came forward, because like, no one would have believed

1499
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: them then, and no one wants to believe them now,

1500
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: even after you know he's been found guilty. And it

1501
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: just brought that all back up in my mind. And

1502
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 4: one of my cousins is dead because of it, because

1503
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 4: it just drove her down, and I just I don't

1504
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: really want to take the kids.

1505
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, thank you for Collins. Second off,

1506
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: sorry to happen to you. And one of the things

1507
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: I think this week, with Bill Cosey being convicted, one

1508
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: of the things that I've seen, it's been super frustrated

1509
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: because on the one hand, obviously.

1510
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: He should have been convicted.

1511
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 2: He was able to rape people for sixty years with

1512
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: reckless abandon and no consequences other than you know, paying

1513
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: people off to be silent and strategically doing things to

1514
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: basically to impugne the credibility of the people that he victimized.

1515
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: He also exists in this world where and this may

1516
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: just be the way I grew up, It just may

1517
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: be the way I view the world. But with a

1518
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 2: lot of black people, they there's this almost cult like

1519
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: worship of this dude that I don't think I'll ever

1520
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: be able to relate to.

1521
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't relate to it when he was on TV.

1522
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: I always I don't want to.

1523
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to insult people, but like I've always

1524
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: found the people who say shit like well, Bill Cozy

1525
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: raised me and he was a role model for me

1526
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: and it's like he was my dad. I've always found

1527
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: that to be like the most losorous possible fucking shit

1528
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: you can say, Like I wouldn't like, I don't know

1529
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: how you can say that about anyone. It's not like

1530
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: we say that about Carl Winslow. We're not like when

1531
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: he saved edit from that pool hall, he saved me.

1532
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1533
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: Like we never have like no one's ever been like

1534
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 2: Uncle Phil raised me in America. It's only Bill Cozy

1535
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: that somehow gets this loyalty, this this undying loyalty from

1536
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: some black people. And in the face of fifty sixty victims,

1537
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me, even if one of them was

1538
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 2: telling the truth, you should immediately be like, yeah, this

1539
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: dude should go to jail.

1540
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: That's the end of it. But there's been this weird

1541
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: like loyalty to him in a way that even the

1542
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: people that.

1543
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: Say stuff like dal Hewley this week tweeted something like uh,

1544
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: so Harvey want or like, you know, so Bill Cozy

1545
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: going to jail.

1546
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: He's convicted of rape.

1547
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: But you got a rapist in the White House and

1548
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: he the president, And I'm like, but what side of

1549
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: that are you trying to make the point towards because

1550
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 2: Bill Cosey is the absolute wrong person to pull the

1551
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: racism in America got this guy card. It's just if

1552
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: it wasn't for racism, they should like like that, like

1553
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: the right side of this is they should be free

1554
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: or not penalized or whatever. And it never comes off

1555
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: like an indictment of whiteness, which is how these people

1556
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: purport to say it. I watched his mentions as many

1557
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: many women were like, no, what are you doing, dyell?

1558
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 2: This is not the right way to make this argument.

1559
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: And of course he's arguing back and forth with him,

1560
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,480
Speaker 2: because that's that pride, that's that white black male privilege,

1561
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 2: which niggas hate to hear me say, but that's that

1562
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: black male privilege of I don't have to reply to

1563
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: y'all women, y'all don't understand. I'm really just talking about

1564
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: race here. Y'all go picking gender over race again, you

1565
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: know that shit. And then in the other you know,

1566
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: those are some of the people I saw take exception

1567
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: with it. The people I saw co sign.

1568
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: It that were women. There were men at all of

1569
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: them black, all of them.

1570
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: Convinced this is to some type of conspiracy against this dude,

1571
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: that he's suffering the brunch of racial politics or something

1572
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 2: as opposed to the literal justice system that he deserves,

1573
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: a justice system that he fought tooth and nail with

1574
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: his money so that he could avoid any level of

1575
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: penalty until he was eighty something years old or whatever

1576
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,879
Speaker 2: the fuck. Like, if there's a person to be upset

1577
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: with in this shit, it should be Bill Cosby, you know,

1578
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: Like Cliff Hucks was not real. So if you got

1579
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: somebody be mad at, it should be Bill Cosby. If

1580
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: you're that on that side of the fence of I'm

1581
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: mad that he got convicted, wouldn't be mad at him

1582
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 2: because he couldn't put his fucking digging his pants, as

1583
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: mister Morals, a fucking hypocrite, as mister y'all. This what's

1584
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: wrong with the black community. This is what's wrong with

1585
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: with everybody but me and y'all need to handle y'all

1586
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: business this way, you know. But he also, you know,

1587
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: discouraged his own daughter from uh reporting her rape against

1588
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. Like this dude is not He's not a

1589
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: good person, you know, And I feel very comfortable saying

1590
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: that he's not a good person. He's a person that

1591
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 2: covered himself in charity, who covered himself in uh, having

1592
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: a certain image out there.

1593
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: He's meticulous with character and his image.

1594
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: But that don't make him a good person, you know,

1595
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 2: Like he's able to present this and I know the

1596
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: escapism of the Cosby Show is alluring to blackness because

1597
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 2: especially during the time where we're told you're your crackheads,

1598
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: you're you're not educated, you're this, he allowed us a

1599
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 2: space of pure black fantasy where there were no problems

1600
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: with racism, where there were no problem, no real lasting

1601
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: problems that lasted beyond a twenty five minute episode of

1602
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: a show.

1603
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: There were no true problems.

1604
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: No one ever got like, you know, anything that happened

1605
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: that was kind of like sounded a little shady, they

1606
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: found a way to make it seem not shady, right.

1607
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, people didn't just pop up pregnant on there.

1608
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: If that happened, it happened to someone outside the family,

1609
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: and we brought them in to help them or something.

1610
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: But it never was like this is a problem in

1611
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: our community.

1612
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: Nobody ever got HIV, nobody ever, nobody ever uh you know,

1613
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 2: dropped out of lit. Yeah, like it was just a

1614
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: lot of you know, it was very it was a

1615
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: very positive thing, and it was escapism. And there's nothing

1616
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 2: wrong with escapism. Everything don't need to be good times correct.

1617
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 2: But then the clinging to this by adults. You're forty

1618
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: years old, you're thirty, fifty or sixty years old. You

1619
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: ain't found enough the fucking real human being role model.

1620
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: At this point, we must protect this person at all costs.

1621
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: Not to mention some of the women.

1622
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: He sectional us out that we're black, so fuck them, right.

1623
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 2: It's just it's infuriating, it's and I guess it's living

1624
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: in my small bubble. It feels like, well, everybody understands.

1625
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you go outside that bubble, you realize

1626
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: more and more, Like you know, you talk to people

1627
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: you like you said, your own family, and you're just like, oh,

1628
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: y'all are crazy, and yeah, you don't.

1629
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: Read, you don't know everything. You just blinded.

1630
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna support him blindly, and a lot of people

1631
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: like beal cos, but other people use blackness as a

1632
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 3: shield to hide themselves behind.

1633
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1634
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing that kills me is when someone does

1635
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: something egregious and even to their own people, and yet

1636
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: they can turn around and be like, well, I'm a

1637
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: black person. And then the rest of the every and

1638
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: then a bunch of people will get information like, oh,

1639
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: you know what, man, we gotta protect this black pa,

1640
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what this rich black man who literally

1641
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: would not piss on you if you are on fire

1642
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: because he normally does not fuck with y'all type of

1643
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 2: blackness anyway. You know, you got black people that say,

1644
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: Nigga defending Bill Kazi, Bill Cozzi would hate you. Bill

1645
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 2: Cosey thinks you're the problem with black people. But a

1646
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: lot of this goes to the anti blackness we absorb.

1647
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: A lot of us believe even as we do.

1648
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: These things, that we are holding black people back and

1649
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: we're part of the problem.

1650
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: And Bill Cosby gives that kind of moral certainty to

1651
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: that point of view. As a black person, you look

1652
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: at him as a father figure only because you see

1653
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: fatherhood as a judgmental, overbearing presence, and he's filled that

1654
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: lane for a lot of people. So it's like, yeah,

1655
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 2: I should pull my pants up, I shouldn't be rapping,

1656
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be saying the end word. And this man

1657
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: agrees with those things, and that's what the old black

1658
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: man should think. And you lionize this dude. But Bill

1659
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: can't raise you, you know, So I don't know, man,

1660
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm sometimes I think

1661
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: about how fortunate I am to have the family I

1662
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: have to have one that I can sit down and

1663
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: talk to.

1664
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: And my dad has never tried to defend Bill Casey.

1665
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did it or not. Like

1666
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: my dad was like, yeah, he probably did that shit.

1667
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1668
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: I still remember what Clarence Thomas. My dad was like,

1669
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: he did that shit. That need to heal. Like that's

1670
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: a very rarefied thing to happen from a black male.

1671
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 2: Father figure to a black child, a black male son

1672
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,520
Speaker 2: in America because we normally do hide behind that fucking patriarchy,

1673
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: high behind misogyny, and we protect black men at all costs.

1674
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: That's the whole point of blackness to a lot of

1675
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: people is how do we protect black men first and

1676
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: foremost at all costs.

1677
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Everybody else take second? Y'all got second?

1678
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So it was so, you know when when maybe

1679
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: that's the reason I don't worship that nigga or whatever,

1680
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: cause I'm like, I gotta have a hero. I have

1681
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: heroes in my life. They raised me, you know what

1682
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, I don't have these I don't need.

1683
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: I didn't need a surrogate hero in my life from

1684
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: a fucking TV show who will never meet me, never

1685
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: know me. There's no lesson he could impart on the

1686
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: TV show that would stick with me forever, because that's

1687
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: not how this fucking works, you know what I mean? Like,

1688
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: he ain't been to no PTA meetings and you're talking

1689
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: about he raised you. It's crazy. No, what raised you

1690
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: is the.

1691
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,520
Speaker 1: Illusion of black perfectionism and escapism.

1692
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 2: That's what raised you a lawyer and a doctor, a

1693
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: lawyer that never went to work, you know what I mean,

1694
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: Like like like just that it gave you a chance

1695
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: to be like look at these black people that, honestly,

1696
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: if it really won't be true about it, look at

1697
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: these respectable black people. Look at these black people that

1698
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 2: even white people would have to respect. Right, that's what

1699
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: he gave us. And I don't mean to demean what

1700
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: the fuck he you know, has done for folks. You

1701
01:21:58,520 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1702
01:21:59,000 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean to demean that.

1703
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: But if it's at the cost of y'all defending a rapist,

1704
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: you're no better than the people that go to these R.

1705
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: Kelly concerts and go but he good, and defend him,

1706
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: rape them little girls, lay him on.

1707
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: You're no better than those people than me.

1708
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: And if and if, the only point you have after

1709
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 2: this conviction is to tell me, well, Harvey Wanston, they've

1710
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: been convicted yet yet, Nigga, it's still happening. Like, let

1711
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: them get the same fifty year heads start they got

1712
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 2: on fucking Cosby. They're gonna get his ass too, Pulaski

1713
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: can't come back to the fucking country. Let him step

1714
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: a foot in America and see if it's if it's

1715
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: just different for him immediately, you know, like it's a

1716
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: lot of people that selectively cherry pick what the fuck

1717
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: is happening. But all these motherfuckers can go to jail

1718
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned. Now you down with that,

1719
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: are you not? That's the point because if the other

1720
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: side of this is we need to let Bill Cosby

1721
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: free because some white people have gotten away with some shit,

1722
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: then you ain't worth for damn either. You can get

1723
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: the fuck out of my face. Are you talking about

1724
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: a fucking rapists.

1725
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: Of a serial rapist?

1726
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: You're not even talking about like honestly, like, if you

1727
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: told me like so and so as a jewelry thief,

1728
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: I probably be like, I mean, look, motherfucker's be stealing.

1729
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Glad it wasn't

1730
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: my rings, you know what I mean? Like, there's some

1731
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: shit I can get what you on being like I

1732
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 2: get it to moraw. So and so sold a lot

1733
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: of weed. I you know what, fucking man, that shit

1734
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: ain't no problem.

1735
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: I mean, ain't kill.

1736
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: Nobody's supposed to weed. But you y'all talking about fucking

1737
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 2: rape dog and I'm supposed to just be like, yeah,

1738
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: as a black man, I gotta support this black rapist nigga.

1739
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: You don't support me on any level anyway.

1740
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I know he don't fuck with what we do.

1741
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 2: And you know, the most hypocritical telltale sign of that

1742
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: motherfucker not being a word for goddamn is when he

1743
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 2: started co signing people like Charlot Mane for telling. Like

1744
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: when charl Maagne will come out and say like, I

1745
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: don't know how uh you know if he did it

1746
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: or whatever, and he'd be like, thank you, brother, charlam

1747
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Manne and our family, thanks you, And I'm like, you

1748
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 2: hate everything this nigga stands for.

1749
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

1750
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: But now that y'all can hide behind rape together, y'all,

1751
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: y'all got strange band fellows. Huh nil, I know Charlamagne

1752
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: wuldn't allow a woman he knows to take a drink

1753
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:10,879
Speaker 2: around this motherfucker.

1754
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of my face. Man. We have

1755
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: enabled the whole community is enabling.

1756
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: This dude when we do shit like this, like when

1757
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: we sit up there and don't take it to task

1758
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 2: because that's my black hero. We are enabling not just him,

1759
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 2: but the rest of the community because there's a lot

1760
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: of men who take that key from the fact that

1761
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: que from the fact that many people would defend Bill

1762
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: Cosey and they go, you know what, Yeah, rape isn't

1763
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: that bad. I mean, as long as you give back

1764
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 2: to the community and shit, I mean, really, these bitches

1765
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been down his house. All these stupid excuses

1766
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: people have these women ugly you think he raped them

1767
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: and shit like that, Like it's just is inexcusable.

1768
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad he got convicted. I hope he goes to jail.

1769
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: I hope he dies in there, and I'll dance a

1770
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: fucking jig when it happens because fuck him, and that's all.

1771
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: That's all it should be to it.

1772
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: Man, it's a tragedy what happen, But it's even more

1773
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: tragic that he's able to hide behind the veneer of blackness.

1774
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: That is so fucking insulting. And if motherfuckers would wake

1775
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: the fuck up, they would see how insulting it is

1776
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: to be able to hide behind that while damaging people

1777
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: so harshly. You shouldn't be able to do that, you know,

1778
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 2: Like I'm seeing that shit when for the fan com

1779
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: file out now. Motherfuckers are righting the well, she's a

1780
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: black woman, Jamie's a black woman. I mean a lot

1781
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: of this is about that.

1782
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you.

1783
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be able to take people's money and be like

1784
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck the money is and

1785
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: it turned around and be like, hey man, I'm black,

1786
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: so you can't really blame me.

1787
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: It should not work like that.

1788
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: You know, that's no better than what the fuck white

1789
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: people do. It's no fucking better. It's the same goddamn thing.

1790
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: Man, I'm white. These things shouldn't apply to me. You know.

1791
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: That's not fairness either.

1792
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 2: So I don't want to imitate fucking what white people

1793
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: do as a means of black protectionism.

1794
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: That's not what the fuck I That's not what I

1795
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: believe in.

1796
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 2: But obviously I don't know how many people agree with me,

1797
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, there's a lot of people

1798
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: out there that right now, if I said some of

1799
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: my Kazi, they being my mentions telling. Some woman got

1800
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: upset on my Twitter because I said some about Kazi

1801
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: and she was like, really, you're still saying the N

1802
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: word in twenty eighteen.

1803
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: I said, you're defending a rapist in twenty eighteen. Nigga, Yes,

1804
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying the N word. Get to fuck out my face.

1805
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: I ain't ever rape nobody. To fuck out my face.

1806
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like, what's wrong with people?

1807
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: You know? Because he's black? Nigga, I'm black. Defend that now.

1808
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: So I guess it all said each other.

1809
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: I gave him my HBCU too. I guess we all

1810
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: said each other. I guess I get to say it.

1811
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Fuck him, and I'm sorry. I know I got mad

1812
01:26:54,040 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry they did that to you. So we

1813
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: got emails, We got emails. I'm gonna get to these,

1814
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: uh fifty three percent haircut. This is from that dog

1815
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 2: picture with the fifty three percent haircut, Camilla writes back

1816
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: in she says, Hey, Rodi, Karen, Layla and I were

1817
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: grinning from ear to ear when you shout her out.

1818
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: You guys are more than welcome to use her pick

1819
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: of show art.

1820
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 2: She will be honored, kay and Layla, well, you know what,

1821
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: Layla will be the show art today because I love

1822
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: that fifty three percent dog. H That doll look like

1823
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: it wants to speak to all the managers, all.

1824
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: The doggie managers. He came up back, sir, uh, this

1825
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: Kibble and Bits had a fly in it, and I'd

1826
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: like to speak to a manager, but like this was

1827
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: too dry. Take you back to the manager, sir.

1828
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 2: I eat dry food, but not this dry. Okay, I'm

1829
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: gonna need to talk to everyone. Where's the owner?

1830
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: And that's what I asked for.

1831
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: Is mister Kibble and Bits here today because I'm gonna

1832
01:27:58,920 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: need to see him.

1833
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: Orlando right saying good morning, good folks.

1834
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: I just had a thought or so from episode on

1835
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 2: Universal Fan Cons sixteen sixty five. I think you were

1836
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: writing your session the situation. I just wanted to say

1837
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: I felt empathy as well. I had a question though,

1838
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: do you think we will see other spaces like Black Girl, Nerves, TWIB, etc.

1839
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Start to fall as this podcasting space continues to gain

1840
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: strength steam.

1841
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: I would hope not, but it seems like it's a

1842
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: space where black people can flourish, but there's always that

1843
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: looming possibility of failure, which we know in the black

1844
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: community that failure is really just a spot to continue

1845
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 2: on from instead.

1846
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: It's just the end.

1847
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: Just curious to hear your thoughts on the current podcast

1848
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: space of what people podcasting now could do to make

1849
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: sure they don't repeat the past.

1850
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: Thanks for the show's peace. Nobody ever gets canceled. That's

1851
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: part of it.

1852
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: Yes, sure, Like I really do mean that nobody ever

1853
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: gets counseled. People can go away and come back. That

1854
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: can always bring their brand back. They can come back

1855
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 3: underneath a different things. One thing about blackness be a

1856
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 3: good bad indifference about us. No matter what happened, we

1857
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,919
Speaker 3: can always come back from anything.

1858
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 1: And so my biggest thing is, no, they don't. People

1859
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: don't disappear. People don't go away.

1860
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 3: People think it's because you don't like somebody or you

1861
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 3: quote unquote cancel them. That them, and there's this existence

1862
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 3: in their brand just goes away.

1863
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: That's not realistic. People don't disappear just because you don't

1864
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: like them.

1865
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: So I do think your brand can be can be

1866
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: dissolved and fucked up and definitely take a hit. I think, uh,

1867
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: you know, what happened with tweve and Elon's Twitter thread

1868
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: or whatever was an example of that shit happening. I

1869
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: think what's happening with Jamie right now it is too

1870
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 2: early to tell, to be honest, but it's definitely an

1871
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: example of how things can quickly go wrong. I think

1872
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 2: they had chances to mitigate the harm from that, but honestly,

1873
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 2: the thing with the Internet, everybody had as the seeds,

1874
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 2: and a lot of times, the more prominent you are,

1875
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: the more people you've probably pissed off on the way

1876
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 2: to prominence. And those people are gonna be heard from

1877
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: when you're fucking up because people are really gonna listen

1878
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 2: to them. You know, people that haven't been listened to

1879
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: in the past, people that spend time complaining about everybody.

1880
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: They now get center stage because you are on the

1881
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Summer Jazz screen. It can easily happen to us. It

1882
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 2: can elap in to me. I'm not like I'm not

1883
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 2: attached to it in that way where I'm like, I

1884
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,520
Speaker 2: would never So I don't know that it's about podcasts,

1885
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's about the Internet blocking space.

1886
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: I really think it's a people thing. A lot of

1887
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: us are as.

1888
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 2: People are not prepared to be out here representing a

1889
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: fucking brand because we're humans and we don't think like

1890
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: a corporation, right, you know, we're individuals. Yeah, not that

1891
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: corporations don't fuck up. They fuck up too, but they

1892
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: have Like but like when Pepsi fucks up, I don't

1893
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: know who to blank, right, because you.

1894
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 3: Got our team or a group of people that automatically

1895
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 3: come out and it the forefront, I mean the face

1896
01:30:59,439 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 3: of it.

1897
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, not even then you don't. I mean I can't

1898
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: name them people. None of us know who mister Pepsi is.

1899
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,879
Speaker 2: They tell us what to think afterwards. Here's our statement.

1900
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't know who released the statement. You know, Starbucks,

1901
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: we know who the CEO is. Why because he.

1902
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Came out and told us. It ain't like like that

1903
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Nigga might name me the CEO. It might be twelve

1904
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: CEOs and he's just like, I'm the one that's gonna

1905
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: speak this time, Right, But if.

1906
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 2: A reasonable Friday's fucked up, I already know Aaronan Freeman's

1907
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: over there, you know what I'm saying. So it's different,

1908
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: like it's if the read fucks up, we know it's

1909
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: Christal and Kidfiry over there.

1910
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: Like it's different for this new day and age where

1911
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: you are your brand, and so.

1912
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that it fundamentally changes anything or opens

1913
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 2: up space for people. Maybe if Black Girl Nerds is

1914
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 2: as as people are alleged, I don't know because I

1915
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: haven't had these interactions with Jamie. She's always like I

1916
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: always meant to say, She's always been.

1917
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 1: Fair to me.

1918
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: But and I've never really crossed her or tried to.

1919
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't really don't have a problem with Jamie, and

1920
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 2: she ain't take my money, uh in this case. Uh

1921
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 2: So obviously people that had their money taken probably feel

1922
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: way differently than I do.

1923
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Right, But in general, like even with Black Girl Nerves,

1924
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: if they.

1925
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Are the gatekeeper that people are saying they are with

1926
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: the whole, like Jamie doesn't, she's petty.

1927
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 1: She does this.

1928
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: People got their names taken off of their work after

1929
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: they quit this week, Like if that shit is true,

1930
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: it will open up a space for other people simply

1931
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: by the fact that you know, you've now lost out

1932
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 2: his talent, and they're gonna go places, and they're gonna write,

1933
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 2: and they're gonna and people are gonna look for other

1934
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 2: brands to promote because they don't want to just be

1935
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 2: linked to you anymore. And this is how you dissolve

1936
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 2: a brand by you know, kind of not taking responsibility,

1937
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: running away from.

1938
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Things, deflecting.

1939
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 2: You know, if if it was on purpose, taking people's

1940
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 2: names off the things doesn't help because then it lets

1941
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: you look petty. If it was a mistake, it is

1942
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: a horribly time mistake. So like that kind of shit

1943
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: is gonna come back to to hurt these brands and shit.

1944
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: But in general, I expect the brands to still exist

1945
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: because they won, that got their first, so you have that,

1946
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: you know, possessions non tenths of a while, but then

1947
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: two it'll just be one of many other blogs. Like,

1948
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that it goes away. It doesn't take

1949
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Speaker 2: away the work that you've done, It doesn't take away

1950
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Speaker 2: all that. So I don't think that, and I don't

1951
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Speaker 2: think the podcasting space is inherently better either.

1952
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Speaker 1: Podcasting is just a new blogging.

1953
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Everybody got a fucking podcast now, you know, you can't

1954
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Speaker 2: make a friend that ain't got a podcast, like now.

1955
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Speaker 1: This is that.

1956
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Speaker 2: And when the quote unquote Titans of the Black podcast

1957
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 2: in Space fall off or have a problem, if that happens,

1958
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 2: then people will look to other podcasts. But those original

1959
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 2: podcasts won't go away, you know, if something happened with

1960
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: say I don't know the Read or you know, the

1961
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 2: big black podcast that people know, Like, if something happened

1962
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: with those podcasts, people would just find other podcasts. They're

1963
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: not gonna necessarily be like they fucked it up for

1964
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 2: all of blackness, you know. But yeah, I think this

1965
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: is way too immediate to feel like, you know, black

1966
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: Girl Nerves is gone. It's way too immediate to actually

1967
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: feel like anything's really happened to Twilve. Like Eli's just

1968
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: not putting out a podcast right now. If he started

1969
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Speaker 2: putting a podcast out next week, people would listen like

1970
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 2: it is what it is, you know, Like so I

1971
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't I don't think the game is

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Speaker 2: so fundamentally changed.

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Speaker 1: And then it was like a week ago. You know,

1974
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Speaker 1: It's just this is the current controversy of the week.

1975
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Speaker 2: But I mean, motherfuckers went through that Bourbon ball shit

1976
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 2: and give it a month, it's like.

1977
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: It never happened. Yes, sure, so you know. Uh anyway,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening.

1979
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Speaker 2: And I don't know what will stop people from repeating

1980
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 2: the past, because we're human. Humans fuck up, so somebody

1981
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: gonna always fuck up. You just gotta hope it ain't you.

1982
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1983
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: You gotta hope you treat people better than that. But

1984
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I can already in my mind.

1985
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Picture the list of people that if we ever fucked

1986
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 2: up on our show or did something or whatever, that

1987
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: that would be out and on the you know, just

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Speaker 2: out here.

1989
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Like I never liked them niggas in their way, did

1990
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I tell you about that time?

1991
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 2: You're like, those motherfuckers would be loud and out there

1992
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: because everybody got some if you got if you have

1993
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 2: any level of success, you got some motherfuckers that can't

1994
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 2: stand your ass and cannot wait.

1995
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: They did get hard the secondary dick that you fuck up.

1996
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: So it's just par for the course. That's everybody. Allegra

1997
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 1: Wrights in Hey, you two.

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01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: As always you and like my husband and I or

1999
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 2: mirror many conversations that my husband I have, I'm usually

2000
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: in spaces where I wanted the few and only or

2001
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 2: or the only black person. And so I've learned how

2002
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 2: tender white feelings can be. It's tiresome, especially coming from

2003
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 2: a straight for with all cars on the table black family.

2004
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I learned to get thick skinned, but also learn how

2005
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: to speak to people.

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01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: With that said, no one receives negative criticism easily, and

2007
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 2: especially if they're receiving it from raised voices. People are

2008
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: usually under defensive. Yeah, and them, them white feelings be tender, dog.

2009
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean they be in the crock pot all day, Okay,

2010
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: falling off the bone.

2011
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: The white feelings get crush it with your fingers. With

2012
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: your finger, you don't even need a fork. All the

2013
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 1: pieces in your mouth tend to tend to white mouth watering.

2014
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: White folks just all barbecued up because of our country.

2015
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: And let's be real, the world is painted the other

2016
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 2: as savage and aggressive. We are already put in the

2017
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: volatile state just by being black. White people have a

2018
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: history of never being wrong and being able to fake

2019
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 2: it till they make it. And this is uh that

2020
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: is hard to undo centuries of mentality of that mentality. Yeah,

2021
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm all for letting a white man educate the other

2022
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 2: will and white people if they need to hear that

2023
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 2: message isn't at the point. We want change in whatever

2024
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: way truly brings change.

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01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you both.

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01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 2: If there can be some constant paid counseling for the

2027
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 2: marginalized people to the white man whisperer, Uh, that would

2028
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 2: be uh. That would make that would make this project better. Yeah,

2029
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: like a consulting person would be absolutely fine unless somebody

2030
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 2: look at that class and be like, Okay, white man,

2031
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: doing a good job by or you could have done

2032
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: better here, you know. And though white though people always

2033
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 2: buck the charge the change. The truth is we all

2034
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 2: change a little bit every day.

2035
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: Change. It's only scary until you realize it is as

2036
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: bad as you think. Mm hm.

2037
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, another great podcast, many of your of many of

2038
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 2: your podcasts. Thanks you to a Llegra A thanks Allegra.

2039
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Let me go to the next session because I know

2040
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 2: we're getting close to that. Yep, we are going to

2041
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: the next session.

2042
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: Guys. I'll bring everyone back on screen. Give me one second.

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01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 7: M h.

2044
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 2: I'll see Miss smart already starting her draft her email

2045
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: about me accusing her of being a slave master.

2046
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: Keeping in the draft for days. Well, she don't know

2047
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: I got these receipts too, though. Dah mm hmm. She's

2048
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: just waiting for me to get caught out here slipping.

2049
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: All right, back live, everyone back on screen and let

2050
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: me invite Carring back on screen.

2051
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: There you go. Yep.

2052
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: But see, I kept screenshots and it's smart advocating for slavery,

2053
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: so I'm not worried about her.

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01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2055
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: Caprice writes in Review Rate and Listener Thoughts, I've been

2056
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 1: may make this smaller for my Gmail. I don't know

2057
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: why Gmail does that blows up the whole screen. Nah,

2058
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: it just they make it.

2059
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 2: They make it go across the whole thing, as opposed

2060
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 2: to just like a small section makes it hard to read.

2061
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: I've been trying to leave a review via iTunes for

2062
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: the past week, and finally, after an altercation with the

2063
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 2: Cucks and colonizes the Apple Care, I'm still having issue,

2064
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 2: so I sent via send it via email to be

2065
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 2: certain that it was received. Still left my five stars

2066
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 2: on iTunes. I had some random thoughts I'd like to

2067
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 2: share regarding Kanye. Some people growing changing, they don't always change,

2068
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: and to the people you like, it's okay, folks, He's

2069
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: friends with Caitlyn Jenner, so they can love Trump together

2070
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 2: over pink wine and cheese.

2071
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, let them go. Just lead the music.

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01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 5: Though.

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01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: Regarding Atlanta Fax, I think I relate to Van most

2074
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 2: of this season. She seems to be trying to find

2075
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,839
Speaker 2: her way via things that aren't real and being robbed

2076
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 2: of probably moving on with her life. I can relate

2077
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 2: because after my separation, I was consumed with my ex

2078
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 2: husband with what he was doing. Until I got our

2079
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 2: social media. It was so friend Speaking of being single,

2080
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: there are a lot of cute guys that follow this

2081
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 2: podcast on Twitter. Hey shoot the shop.

2082
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Well, I don't blame you. Shoot your shot. That's Caprice.

2083
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: I don't see her Twitter handle. I have to let

2084
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 1: y'all know if I saw it.

2085
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: This was an overwhelming Coon week between Kanye dominant Silk

2086
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 2: being Carson and Cozi supporters.

2087
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said it. It was ain't no y'all said.

2088
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 1: I agree that. Yes, I can't believe that's still controversial

2089
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: to say. I cannot believe.

2090
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 2: This is how much I've excited people for my life.

2091
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Because when I've seen people still mad about Collage and Victor,

2092
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 2: I was like.

2093
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: They make you you still come in that model. That

2094
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: is interesting. Wow, I'm gonna.

2095
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: Walk outside and see a Volkswagen Bug next day. Oh wow,

2096
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:32,480
Speaker 2: they just the original Bumblebee model. Just fuck good grief.

2097
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't let that one go.

2098
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, it was a lot of coon in

2099
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 2: to take and the take in not to mention. I

2100
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: now know who Candice Owen is. Damn this coon list.

2101
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: He's growing mm hmmm.

2102
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to survive working in an office where

2103
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: people around me are trying to get white the girl

2104
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: with Keeni skinny, and I'm trying to get Rihanna and

2105
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: Beyonce thick.

2106
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 1: They are killing my vibe. No, I don't want to

2107
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: die with you. I already eat healthy and I'm happy

2108
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: with my curves. Go away with your points. Uh anyway,

2109
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: all right, I don't blame you anyway.

2110
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Sorry for the long review, but I consider that payback

2111
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: for you playing Taylor Swist September spreading love to Brooklyn

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01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: Way love you both, Okay, Oh payback huh? I mean,

2113
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 2: it's just really what y'all want, because I feel like

2114
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: y'all can stop bringing that up at any time, because

2115
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 2: I love listening to the song. I listen to it

2116
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 2: when the shows. Oh that's how much I love it.

2117
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: So don't don't do this to yourself. When you play me,

2118
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 2: you play yourself Episode sixteen sixty six, Positive Side of

2119
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 2: slavey rest right saying, dear Rodick Cairn, glad to see

2120
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 2: y'all prospering with all your new opportunities now on the

2121
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 2: top of your hand. The young lady man had about

2122
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: a costant waffle House and the lack of outrage compared

2123
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Starbucks proves the point of how few people give a

2124
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: fuck about black women compared to everybody else. No wonder

2125
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: we see black women opting out of social justice activism

2126
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: on behalf of others, especially black men, We sliply don't

2127
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: see the reciprocation in return. All of what we are

2128
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 2: seeing is white people once again using the cops as

2129
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: a weapon. Already we had Starbucks, waffle House, Grand View

2130
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: golf Course, playing fitness, et cetera, et cetera.

2131
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Y'all saw Cracker Barrel got in on it too.

2132
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 2: They will call the cops on black people out of

2133
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 2: spike and on full well, racist ass cops are more

2134
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 2: than willing to oblige. I mean, Grandview golf course called

2135
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 2: the costs on five black women who are members for

2136
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: playing too fucking slow child.

2137
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: What I know.

2138
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: Only thing with these incidents is so far as I'm shocked,

2139
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 2: nobody ended up dead. Over all this, whenever racist white

2140
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 2: people are called, are challenged over anything, even merely asked

2141
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: about why are you charging for spoons this time?

2142
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: But not, but not before, these white people will call

2143
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: the cops.

2144
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,799
Speaker 2: Their racism has been emboldened by the trash ass racist president.

2145
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: That's why they voted for him.

2146
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: And at fifty three percent, I would care never forget

2147
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: those hoes. Now on to the fan cod implosion. Is

2148
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: is what I said about Mark Zuckerberg. And oh wait,

2149
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 2: before we move on to that part, let me just say, yeah,

2150
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: I found it.

2151
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: Very interesting, not interesting, predictable.

2152
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 2: When it was black women, it was a lot less outrage,

2153
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: especially the violent arrest. I mean it was way worse

2154
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 2: than Starbucks the woman at waffer House. But you want

2155
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: to know huh, I said, yeah, that's and you want

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Speaker 2: to know the worst part. You just cannot depend on

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Speaker 2: people for shit when it's a black woman. Because I

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01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 2: saw the comments, well look what she was wearing. Her

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01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: clothes when it came off, she had on some the

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Speaker 2: right clothes h why she had an attitude Well we

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01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: didn't see before.

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01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all niggas were the same ones as being like,

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Speaker 1: boycott Starbucks.

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01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 2: Well and I'm not saying and I was like, I'm

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01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 2: not even saying that's the right thing to do, but

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01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 2: just how the fuck are you that person and this

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01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: person at the same time. People just don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 1: Man, Just be consistent, man, keep that same outrage.

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01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 2: Going with everybody now on the fan kind implosion is

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Speaker 2: what I said about Mark Zuckerberger Facebook. There are those

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01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 2: who are willing to accept certain titles about themselves except accountability,

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01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: which Jamie from Black Girl nerves seen to be one

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01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: of those people.

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Speaker 1: As Rod said, if your way over your head, say that, people.

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01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 2: Will be more than somewhat somewhat more understanding than all

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01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 2: the bridges she burned by stalling and changing the story

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Speaker 2: a lesson.

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Speaker 1: For all to learn.

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Speaker 2: As for make America Great Again, Kanye, he did go

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01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 2: from George Bush doesn't care about black people to Kanye

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01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: not giving a damn either. Him tweeting that Candice Owens

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01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,839
Speaker 2: woman and wearing a Maga hat as such is Kanye

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01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,759
Speaker 2: pulling the usual look at me, but worse.

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Speaker 1: He gone, y'all, stop trying to save his ass. He

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01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: don't want to be saved. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The weird part with Kanye man is I honestly feel

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01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 2: like he's one of those people that he loves the

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01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 2: attention more than he's trying to make a point about

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01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 2: any of it.

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01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: And I a weird cycle where he says something to

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01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 1: get attention.

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01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: And as much as people claim, you know, they're over

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01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 2: him and they cancel him and shit, they can't wait

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01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 2: to give him attention for that stupid shit he's saying.

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01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Like that.

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01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to read his tweets and shit

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01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: on the show because I just don't care.

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01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Nope, just let me know when the next album coming out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm still a fan of his music. I

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01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 2: don't care about his fucking politics.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 2: And and you know, until the music is whack to me,

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01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 2: then that's when I'll stop fucking with him. But I

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01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: ain't like I ever follow him on Twitter. I think

2205
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 2: I got unmuted on Twitter. No, Like, no, who cares

2206
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 2: what Kanye West thinks about shit like he? I mean,

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01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 2: it's only so long before he would get to the

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 2: cooning part, because I mean Let's be honest, he wants

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01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 2: the attention. That's one of the best ways for a

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01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: black person to get attention, say some coon shit. White

2211
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 2: people love you, Black people hate you, but the best

2212
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: thing is they always talking about you like that was

2213
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 2: That was the one thing he said on the last album.

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01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 2: I can't remember the lyric exactly, but it was something

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01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 2: to the effect of he be mad when people not

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01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 2: talking about him.

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01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Not he needs y'all to talk positively or whatever.

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01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,719
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just mad when people have stopped talking

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01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 2: about me other than that I'm good, good or bad?

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01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 1: So okay, canus own? Is much like Kanye.

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 2: She says all this, I think my brain, not my race,

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01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 2: except when it was time for her to sue of

2223
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 2: a racism when she did not long ago. Black and

2224
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: servers are so unoriginal for them to claim to be

2225
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: free thinkers. They all got the same tired as matress.

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01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Blacks need to get out the Democratic plantation. Blacks can't

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01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 2: stand up the blacks having opinions. Notice, Kanye is a dude.

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01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 2: These racist white ring wingers hated for his George Bush

2229
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 2: outbursts and harming that that girl Taylor Swift before it

2230
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 2: was these liberal Hollywood elites and celebs should shut up

2231
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: and those right wing catch them. Kanye and now celeb

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: opinions can be welcomed. As I said, so many unoriginal

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01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 2: shared opinions by my so called by so called individual thinkers.

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Speaker 1: Love show.

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear more of y'all's projects. Marissa, thanks, Marissa,

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01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 2: thank you.

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01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 1: From the Bronx and Rissa from the Bronx. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other thing too with the Kanye shit, That's funny

2239
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 2: is motherfuckers always be like, I'm black and I'm a

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Speaker 2: free thinker, y'all on the Plantation, I'm like, this reminds

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01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 2: me so much of that Keyd feel Scared where they

2242
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 2: was black Republicans and they just all had the same

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01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 2: outfits on.

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01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: They all made the same speech. That's them all right.

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01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 2: Last one, Nerd Ninjah gir Lama says I'm okay. She

2246
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: writes she's the one who left the two voicemails. Hey, rider,

2247
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 2: Cam just wanted to let you guys know that I'm okay.

2248
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 2: I saw Avengers Infinity War again that night with my

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01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 2: other brother and his wife, and that made me feel

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01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 2: a lot better, especially when I've hearned and looked at

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01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 2: their faces during a precise moment and when certain scenes happen.

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01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: Can't wait to hear y'all's I love you guys and

2253
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:00,600
Speaker 1: really proud of you.

2254
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: Care your puns have really blossomed, and right your fat

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01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 2: Albert impression has really come into his own.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, But that's not me doing the impression.

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01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Fat Albert actually comes in the studio whenever imaginary black

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01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 2: person is accused of crime. And it was a real

2259
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 2: treat to mention my husband after the rap in an

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01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: earlier episode. I laughed so hard. Thanks, Ama, We appreciate y'all.

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01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: I think that's everybody's emails and everything. We're about to

2262
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: go see if any war again. I finally finally processed

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01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 2: my emotions and I decided I can see it again,

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01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 2: even though I did not feel like that after the

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01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 2: first time I saw it, I was like, what is movies?

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01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: What is life? Well?

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01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 2: I see anything, suld We should all just stop stop

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01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 2: viewing life together, hug I loved ones and stay with

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01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 2: our families.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back soon, probably tomorrow. Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 3: Why