1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Should the descendants of slave receive reparations? Is it time 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: for Black Americans to abandon the Democratic Party? And will 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden be any good for the Black community? Today, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I debate the questions that the PC police doesn't want 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: to ask. This is allowed with Gianno Calledwell. Welcome back 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: to Allow with Gianno Caldwell. I've got a special show 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: for you guys this week. My guest is Taric Nasheed, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: a producer and best selling author. He has produced and 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: directed multiple films, including his documentary series Hidden Colors. This 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: highly acclaimed series discusses the marginalization of Black Americans and 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: others of African descent across the world. Trek is also 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: a journalist, actor, and musician, and even a fashion designer. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: But most relevant to this week's show, Trek is a 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: controversial commentator with a huge social media following who describes 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: himself as the world's number one race bader. I kid 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: you not. Today, Tark and I have a raw, uncensored, unfiltered, 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: and unafraid discussion about some of the most important and 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: controversial issues facing the Black community in America as a whole. 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: It's time to throughout the rule book and forget about 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: the PC culture. Let's go. It's actually an honor to 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: have Tarkna sheet on here. I mean, I've been watching 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: uh you on social media and I actually got to 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: know you because some stuff you were saying about good 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: old Roland Martin, and that alerted me. I looked at 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: your page because there were some things that I had 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: never heard before. But it's it's such a pleasure to 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: have you on because I know you're gonna educate us 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: on some things that we've never heard before, and and 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some some conversation here. So thank you 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: for coming on. Allow with Gianna calls. Well absolutely absolutely. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Now on social media, you talked about your foundational Black 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: American UM. That's a term that a lot of people 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: haven't heard of, and it's a term you coined yourself. 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, I coined the term. It was 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: based on the ideology of Dr King and Dr Claude Anderson. 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: They've always talked about UM Black Americans being a distinct 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: ethnic group. My brother Claude Anderson would refer to us 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: as Native Black Americans. I just built on that and 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: use the word foundational because when you use native, a 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: lot of people think that you're referring to the Red Indians, 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: but foundational Black Americans. We are the founders, the literal 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: founders of the United States, and we have been on 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: this land for thousands of years. We mixed in with 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: African people later, but we're we're really owning our culture 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: and and doing a reset on how the history of 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: our culture has been taught. So the term FBA Foundation 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: of Black Americans, that's a term that I coined. But 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it's all about a lineage. Okay, Now that you start 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the history, um, not in sixteen nineteen, which is what 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: most people do, including the New York Times, with this 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen project. You instead emphasized the year fifteen twenty 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: six when the Spanish brought the first African slaves to 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: what became the United States. Why do you make a 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: point to first define yourself as descend as a slave, 55 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: and I can to begin with the history of American 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: slavery before the first English colonists even arrived. The term 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: descendant of slaves. We are descendant of slaves. But again 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I used the term foundational Black American because that transcends 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: that because we were here again before slavery. I used 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty six as the start of our interaction with 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: white supremacy here when African people were brought over, and 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: really the people who were brought over were actually black 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: people who were in Spain. They were actual Moors, and 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: they were brought into UM San Miguel del Guadape, which 65 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: was a colony that the Spanish tried to settle in 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the South Carolina and Georgia area. The black people who 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: they were enslaving rose up against the Spanish, ran them out, 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: and the black people were absorbed into the Aboriginal tribe 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: there in that area. So foreign black people were documented 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: as the first um foreign colony that is permanent here. 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: And again, black people who were Aboriginal were already on 72 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: this land for thousands of years, going back to the 73 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: folsome people down there in Brazil, they had Lucilla Woman, 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: which was a um An archaeological fine where they found 75 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: bones of a black woman two thousand years old. So 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: we've been on this land for a long time. So 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: we our presence here transcend slavery. But our experience with 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the white supremacists made us descendants of slaves, okay, And 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: and it's something interesting because I think people oftentimes aren't 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: able to distinguish between this audios movement American descendantive slaves, 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: which in the Black community, especially a lot of millennials, 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: we kind of are aware of it, and I'm not 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: sure if my audience is aware of it. And I 84 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: know you you've mentioned before that term was coined by 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: someone else, and it's something I read that you said 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: that it was stolen and re re repurposed. Would you 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: mind going into that, police, Yeah, the term A d 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: O as American descendants of slaves. That was the term. 89 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: Actually again, Dr King would use the term descendants of 90 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: slaves and in his memoir Um a brother named Noris 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: Sheldon out of Kentucky, Dr Norris Sheldon, he came up 92 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: with the term descendants of slaves and American descendants of 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: slaves talking about us here on the in the continent 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: as a distinct ethnic group, and he was making reparations claims. 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: He was using this to make a distinct claim for reparations. 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Some other people who formed the A d OS social 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: group because they're not really a political it's a fi group. 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: They're not really a serious group. So they were in 99 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Noris Sheldon's group on Facebook and they were affiliated with him, 100 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and and they just basically stole the name, they stole 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: the title, they stole the ideology, stole all the brothers 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: writings and everything and tried to form their own thing. 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: And that's pretty much exploding right now. And according to them, 104 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: they said, it's not really about Leney and just about 105 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: their organization, and it's about them having chapters all over 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the country and them being the leaders of the organization. 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: It's a it's a mess, and it's very confusing. I 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that. That has nothing to 109 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: do with lineage. Foundational Black Americans were only talking about 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: what you are born as. You either have a lineage 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: here or you don't. And we're it's no, you can't 112 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: have a leader of a lineage. You can't have chapters 113 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: for a lineage. We talk about foundational Black Americans. We're 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: just talking about the ethnic group of people who are 115 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: born here and descended from the black Aboriginals and the 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: black enslaved people that were here on this land. Would 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris be a part of that group. Absolutely not. 118 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is not a foundation of Black American at all. 119 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris comes from two immigrant backgrounds. Kamala Harris, her 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: dad is Jamaican, and they keep using the term Jamaican 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: instead of Black. On Kamala Harris's birth certificate. Her dad 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: he never used the term black. And in Jamaica they 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: have different cats systems where you have people who look 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: like us, but they don't consider themselves black. There's the Creole, Mulatto, 125 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: free colored. They have all these different ethnic arrangements out 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: there in the Caribbean. And her dad is never classified 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: themselves as black, her mother as East Indian, and on 128 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: the birth certificate, her mother is classified as Caucasian. So 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is not a foundation of Black American at all. 130 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: And it's very interesting that the powers that be they 131 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: specifically get people who are non foundation of lack Americans 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: to elevate them to positions of political power in this country. 133 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: They did that with Barack Obama, He's not a foundation 134 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: of lack American. They did it with Colin Powell. Colin 135 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: Powell is Caribbean. Eric Holder is Caribbean. Most of the 136 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: people from the Congressional Black Hawk Is a lot of 137 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: them are non foundation of Black American. A lot of 138 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: them come from Caribbean background. Sheila Jackson Lee is Caribbean, 139 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: and she's supposed to be speaking on our reparations. This 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: is why we don't get anything. So the thing is 141 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: they understand that we as foundation of Black Americans, we're 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: going to have at least some type of camaraderie or 143 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: commonality with people from our lineage. So they don't want 144 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: to put people who are foundational Black Americans in power 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: because we might end up allocating resources to the people 146 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: we have a camaraderie with. For example, when Kamala Harris 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: was put in office, they kept talking about she's the 148 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: first black and Asian vice president, female president. They really 149 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: throw that Asian thing in They were blacking her up 150 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: for a long time, and the minute she got in office, 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: then they threw that Asian thing in there. Now that 152 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: they're in office, there are resources and benefits being given 153 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: to Asian people. They made a very distinct point to 154 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: mention Asian people and racism against Asian people specifically, and 155 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do about giving tangible benefits to combat 156 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: racism against Asian people like Amala Harris. But Biden would 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: not allocate any resources or policies to combat the racism 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: against black Americans. So this is why we are distinguishing 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: ourselves because we keep playing the coon by yall game. 160 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: But that benefits other groups instead of us. Yeah, you know, 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: it's that's interesting. And you're referring to the Executive Order 162 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: there in terms of racism against Asian So that's really 163 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: that's interesting because I hadn't even really put two and 164 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: two together in terms of her being Asian, and maybe 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: that is the general premise of actually proposing something like 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: that in the Executive Order. So that's interesting. I want 167 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: to pick up from there in a moment, but first 168 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: let's go to break. My next thought is, you know, 169 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: African Americans have been responsible for putting Democrats at least 170 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: in terms of the primary and in that position since 171 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson ran in the eighties. Do you think that 172 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: we're seeing benefits from that you continue to put president 173 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: at the president in office. Do you think we're seeing 174 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: any benefits from the Democratic Party? No, not at all, 175 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: absolutely not. Um, We're not getting any benefits and people 176 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: just kind of vote for Democrats out of tradition at 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: this point. And again, I'm not a fan of the 178 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: the Republicans either, and I'm conservative. Here's the thing, man, 179 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: most black people in America are actually very conservative. We 180 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of consulting views. But the thing is, 181 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: the commonality between the Democrats and the Republicans is white supremacy. 182 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: They just do it in different forms. The Republicans their 183 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: form of white supremacy, it's just blatant, Hey, y'all live 184 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: over there, We live over here, and you do your thing. 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: The Democrats, their version of white supremacy is, hey, let 186 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: me live right next door to you and gentrify you 187 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood, and you know, let me be 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: the Karen that calls the police on you. A lot 189 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: of folks don't realize a lot of these caring videos, 190 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: these happen in democrats cities. These Karens that we see 191 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: calling the cops on a lot of black people. These 192 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: are very liberal people a lot of us don't like 193 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: to put together. So we think that the Democrats are 194 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: going to be better than the blatant anti black racism 195 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: that comes from the the right wing of white supremacy, 196 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: and it's just the same. My thing is this with 197 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Trump in office. I told a lot of people, and 198 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: this was very controversial. Even though Trump has a lot 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: of white supremacist views. I believe Trump didn't really do 200 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: anything as far as policies to harm black people. Biden 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: has a track record of harming black people his entire 202 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: political career. Kamala Harris I live in California. She has 203 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: a whole track record of harming black people politically. Also 204 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: with the Democrats. When we deal with the Republicans, we 205 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: might have to do it. We have to deal with 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: the white supremacists themselves, but that's not a problem where 207 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: we're used to dealing with them as Foundation of Black Americans. 208 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: When the Democrats get in office, not only do we 209 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: have to deal with white supremacist black people have to 210 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: deal with all the anti black racism that comes from 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: all of these other buffer class ethnic groups. We have 212 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: to deal with the anti black racism from these immigrant Asians, 213 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: immigrant Latinos, immigrant Arabs that they flood over here on 214 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: top of us for the sole purpose of undermining foundation 215 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: of Black Americans. So my thing is, if we deal 216 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 1: with anybody, any politician, I want to look at their policies. 217 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: They teach black people how to be emotional about our politicians. 218 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: Trump again, Trump wasn't really that bad for black people. 219 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: He didn't do anything really tangible for black people. I 220 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: don't like when they start lying about what Trump was 221 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: the greatest president for black people. That's a bunch of bs. 222 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: But Trump did not put any policies together to really 223 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: harm black people. So I had no problem with Trump 224 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: still being in office, because now when Biden gets in 225 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: office after black people elevated him, Biden has gone out 226 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: of his way to spit on Black society and that 227 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: I cannot respect and I cannot respect the black Biden 228 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: voters at this point. What the Biden team did in 229 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats, what they do. They use plantation tactics to 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: get Black people to come out to the polls and 231 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: then truth be told, I don't believe that Biden got 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: all those votes. I believe that this election was a finesse. 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't know any Black people under the age of 234 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: fifty who vote voted for Biden. I honestly do not 235 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: believe Biden got the most votes in presidential history. I 236 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: just don't know any Black people who are young who 237 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: went out and voted for Biden. I believe that election 238 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: was a big finesse. I believe there was voter fraud. 239 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm not trying to hearing a lot of stuff 240 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: that the white supremacist right wingers are saying. But there 241 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: was some kind of voter fraud because I got a 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: post on the community and nobody in the black community 243 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: was really so excited about voting for Biden. We know Biden, 244 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: we know Biden's track record, we know Biden's crime bill records, 245 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: so nobody was really excited about him. And this whole 246 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: thing about we just had to get Trump out, a 247 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of us weren't really tripping on that either. So 248 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: we got to understand a lot of things and narratives 249 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: that's pushed in the media and what's what's a lot 250 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: of it is propaganda. So let me ask you a 251 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: couple of questions here, because you you mentioned the white 252 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: supremacy on the right, and let's be very clear and honest. 253 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: There is racism that exists in the Republican Party. That 254 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: has been for years, just like with the Democrats. It has. However, 255 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: there is there is a track record of accomplishments in 256 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: terms of what Republicans have done that have specifically benefited 257 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: African Americans. You can talk about just about every civil 258 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: rights bill every past was passed only with Republican support, 259 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: including lb j's Civil Rights Bill. If it wasn't for 260 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate, it wouldn't have passed. You can 261 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: talk about Lincoln freeing the slaves. You can talk about 262 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: a number of things. Even when you mentioned Donald Trump, 263 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: you talk about the First Step Act, which was passed. 264 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Again he pushed hard on that, and I know because 265 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I want on Capitol Hill to lobby it. Thousands of 266 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: people released from jail, ninety of being an African American. 267 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: And we can also talk about Joe Biden, like you mentioned, 268 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: he has a whole track record eight six crack laws. 269 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: You can talk about ninety four crime Bill, you can 270 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: talk you ain't black, all these different things that have 271 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: harmed our community. Even the financial reform where they put 272 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: all this pressure on black banks which allowed us or 273 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: rather disenfranchised us. Are black banks from being able to 274 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: lend to our community, which is where a number of 275 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: us actually got our loans from. It wasn't a big institution, 276 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: so we we got a track record on on that. 277 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: But how do you respond to what Republicans have actually 278 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: actually done that has been positive. So because I'm hearing 279 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: what you're saying and it's not clicking all the way. 280 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: I will not give them credit for that because it's 281 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: trickled down. It's not black species, which which which which 282 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: which item? None of their policies are are black specific. 283 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: They're all trickled down policies. Even um with the Civil 284 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Rights Act that black people pushed for, they put a 285 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of trickle down language in it. So I will 286 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: not give them props on doing that for black people 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: because they specifically made the language very vague so that 288 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: it could apply to other groups if they're not doing 289 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: something specifically using the word black, just like Biden did, 290 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: just like all these other groups did, I will not 291 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: give them credit for doing something for black people that 292 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: has incidental benefits. Even crime bills. I take offense to 293 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: people saying, well, we did something for blacks with the 294 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: crime bill of prison reform, because that gives the assumption 295 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: that blacks and criminality is somewhat synonymous. There are a 296 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: lot of white criminals, there's a lot of Latino criminals, 297 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of other people who benefited from those prison 298 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: reform laws. Blackness and criminality is not synonymous, and I 299 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: should not have to wait until I commit a crime 300 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: in order to get a benefit from the government. I 301 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: pay taxes to the Civil Rights Acting, all of these 302 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: other acts. It was supposed to be for black people. 303 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Even affirmative action was supposed to be for black people. 304 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: But they use trick back words like minority, people of color, disenfranchise. 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: These are trick words that today benefit other groups. The 306 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: civil rights bills now more l v G T White 307 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: people benefit from civil rights bills than Black people now. 308 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: So if it's not black specific, it's a trick bag. 309 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Nobody has ever done anything Black specific that other people 310 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: didn't lead off up and we ended up getting the 311 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: crumbs for I cannot give them props on that. Joe 312 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Biden gave specific orders for Asian Americans and racism that 313 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: was not a trickle down. He didn't use minority, didn't 314 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: use people of color, didn't use disenfranchise. When it comes 315 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: to black people, all of a sudden, saying black becomes 316 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: a dirty word. And I do not want to be 317 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: treated like a dirty little secret that people have to 318 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: sneak around and you just can't say it. It's the 319 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: scarlet letter. We can't play that game. Both parties they 320 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: have not done right about the Black community and they're 321 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: going to have to do better. So in essence, are 322 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: you saying there's been not one party, not one policy 323 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: has been specific enough in terms of Black folks and benefit. 324 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: There's been neither neither party in this country. There has 325 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: never been a policy that benefited Black people exclusively at 326 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: the exclusion of other groups. Never in this country ever, 327 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: people pretend that affirmative action. Affirmative action never really been 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: a black benefited Black people exclusively, women, Native Americans, Latinos, LGBT, 329 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: disabled people, all of them benefit from affirmative action. There 330 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: has never, ever, ever, ever, ever been one policy that 331 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: specifically benefited Black Americans. Every policy for us is a 332 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: trickle down. It's a it's a minority coalition type of thing, 333 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: because see, there has to be a racial hierarchy, and 334 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: black people have to be on the bottom. You have 335 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: blacks on the bottom, whites on the top, and all 336 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: of the buffer groups in between. In order to combat racism, 337 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: black people have to be taken off the bottom and 338 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: brought up. What they do when you lift everybody up 339 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: and say, okay, this is gonna benefit black people too, well, 340 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna benefit all the other people who are on 341 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: top of black people. So we're still gonna be on 342 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: the bottom. That's a con game that they've been running 343 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: for two hundred years. That's why every single policy to 344 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: black people, it's the Lift All Act. We're gonna do 345 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: the UM what's that? The Platinum deal and all these things. 346 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: It lifts up the Platinum Plan from African Americans. You're 347 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: talking about the Trump proposal that with UM declared KKK 348 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: is a white supremacy group. I no domestic terrorists, UM group. 349 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: That's what that was a nothing burger. That was nothing. 350 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: But now I'm just talking about all these different policies, 351 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: all these policies that are lifting up everybody because this 352 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: is the trick they do. And they did this with 353 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: Trump's Platinum Plan. They did this with the Lift All Plan. 354 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: At the beginning of these policies, they'll talk about black black, 355 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: black black black, how bad black people have it, Black 356 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: people get disenfranchised, black people have experienced racism, black black 357 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: black black black. So what we're gonna do. We're gonna 358 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: give money to small businesses, We're gonna give money to 359 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: minority charities, We're gonna give money to disenfranchise. Then they 360 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: started they start mixing up all these other groups. So 361 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: it's a trick bag and we're not going for any 362 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: trick bag language anymore. We are as foundation of Black Americans. 363 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: We're saying enough is enough. A lot of black people 364 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: actually sat out this election, so a lot of black 365 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: people are going to start using their votes more strategically. Unfortunately, 366 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: the Democrats know how to pull out the heart strings 367 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of a lot of silly black people who voted for them, 368 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: knowing you weren't going to get anything. That is a problem. 369 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: When black people start smart enough, smartening up and leveraging 370 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: their votes, we're gonna start seeing some real change. But 371 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: the problem is we get into a lot of symbolism 372 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: what they do. The Democrats, they know how to get 373 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: out there, hugging, singing, dancing with poems, um bribing black 374 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: catfish nuggets and black eyed pas and all of this 375 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: silly nonsense. When we get off that, we're gonna start 376 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: being more politically astute. When you think we're gonna get 377 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: off of that, uh, we're gonna be forced to get 378 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: off of it. And we shouldn't have to be forced 379 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: to get off of it. I think after this Biden administration, 380 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: more people are going to wake up because Biden their 381 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: job now is to undermine black people heavy. They're they're 382 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: going to flood us and try to dissipate the black 383 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: voting block now because they don't want us. We again, 384 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: black people could can sway votes, We can sway elections. 385 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: So them letting a lot of immigrant groups over, that's 386 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: going to undermine us. And they know this. This is 387 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: why they're talking about letting over eleven million illegal immigrants. 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: The only reason they're doing that. And what's interesting, they're 389 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: letting these people go to places like Georgia and all 390 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: of these black strongholds as far as the voting block. 391 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: So they're doing this to undermine the Black vote. That's 392 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the only reason they're doing it. So they can create 393 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: a buffer class to dissipate our energy and our perceived power. 394 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: Do you do you do you think when you you 395 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: mentioned these kind of things and and and let me say, 396 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: I do agree with that, but I think it's it's 397 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: more than just the black vote. I think in terms 398 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: of this eleven million number that they continue to they've 399 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: been mentioning it for over a decade, the eleven million number, 400 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: it's probably way more than that at this particular point. 401 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: But do you believe that it's it's that's one part 402 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: of it that you mentioned in terms of the buffer class, 403 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: but it's also to make sure that they're dominating and 404 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: they can ensure the Republicans don't win any races. Well, 405 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. What's interesting. A lot of these immigrants 406 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: that they let up, especially Hispanic immigrants and especially down 407 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: in Florida. What's interesting they go out here and start 408 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: voting Republican. A lot of Hispanics were voting for Trump 409 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: this election, a lot of Hispanics. And this is the thing. 410 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: They they're trying to flood the country with a lot 411 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: of Hispanics so that they can kind of offset some 412 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: of the Hispanics who identify as white. See, this is 413 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: the thing. They tell us that all these immigrant groups 414 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: are are are black people's minority comrades. And these people 415 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: come over and they identified with being white or they 416 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: attained be white. So a lot of Hispanics they come 417 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: over here and they start getting on the white supremacist train. 418 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: So a lot of the Democrats can't really depend on that. 419 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: And Biden even said that. Biden he made a very 420 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: strange comment during his election. He was saying something like, well, 421 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: we gotta start working on the Hispanics you know, they 422 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: think different, not like black people. They all think the same. 423 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: He said something to that. It was a real weird statement. 424 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: And they understand that Hispanics, some of them will think 425 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: like Democrats, some of them will try to attain to 426 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: be down with the Republicans. So their voting block is 427 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: very sketchy because even in those countries they view themselves different. 428 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: They have racial cast systems in these countries and buffer 429 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: classes in these countries, so they bring those same ideologies here. 430 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: So they cannot be relied upon as a real thorough 431 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: voting block. But if you let let enough of them 432 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: over here, you can get enough of them to vote Democrats. 433 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: So the job of them is to undermine foundation of 434 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: lack Americans. Let me ask you this question because when 435 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: I was growing up on the south side of the Cargo, 436 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: we often saw how individuals and Hispanics would come over 437 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: from Mexico or wherever they come over from, and they 438 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: would all stay and not all of them, of course, 439 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: as an example of what I saw, so I just 440 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: want to be clear about that number of families would 441 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: stay in one house, they would live in a particular area, 442 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: They would only do business with each other, They wouldn't 443 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: allow anybody into their communities. It was like they built something. 444 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: Is that something that African Americans should be doing, just 445 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: doing business with each other and building our community that 446 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: we don't need the government assistance that the Democrats would 447 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: offer to say, Hey, we're gonna just we're gonna take 448 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: care of you, which makes you ultimately dependent on them, 449 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: and you continue to vote for them because you're looking 450 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: for a little bit of help when we should be 451 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: doing for ourselves. But the thing is the government, the 452 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: United States government, they have consistently undermine foundational Black Americans. 453 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: We are the only group who has had our businesses 454 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: and our economic base repeatedly sabotaged by our own government. 455 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: This goes back to the Freedman's Bank. When black people 456 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: got out of slavery, we had banks, we had businesses, 457 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: and when the white supremacists saw that black people were 458 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: making strides, we got out of our illiteracy. Because remember 459 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: after slavery, black people who were forced to be illiterate, 460 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: they cut their literacy rate in half in a very 461 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: short period of time. So black people became an economic threat. 462 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: So what they did they started flooding the country with 463 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: the European immigrants. This is when they the Statute of 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: libered in bring all your huddled masses again. They used 465 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: the immigrant hustle to flood us and these white immigrants 466 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: would come over inform unions to keep black people out 467 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: of the job markets. And also what the US government did, 468 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: they allowed the Freedman Bank to get robbed from all 469 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: of the resources that black people are masked or all 470 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: of that money from the Freedman Bank. That money was 471 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: never given back to black people. A lot of the 472 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: black people who were living on reservations um their land 473 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: was taken. They were never compensated. Um. Black people who 474 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: built up cities like Wilmington, they had a thriving black 475 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: area there. That area was destroyed in the government let 476 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: it happen, Greenwood, so many other places, Tulsa, Oklahoma, so 477 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: many black business areas that were thriving and successful. The 478 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: government allowed these businesses and these black economic enclaves to 479 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: be destroyed and black people were never compensated. In the 480 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties and black business areas, they would build 481 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: freeways specifically in black areas so that they could dissipate 482 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: the the economic base. Even now in Los Angeles where 483 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: I live. Crinshaw Boulevard is a black business district. They're 484 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: running a train system right down Crinshaw Boulevard right now 485 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: to this day, destroying a lot of these small black 486 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: businesses there. So we have been the only group who 487 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: have not only been we've not been helped as far 488 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: as our businesses by the government. Whenever we do figure 489 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: out a way to get thriving businesses, they go out 490 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: of their way to sabotage it. This does not happen 491 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: to any of the group at all. So I do 492 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: not like when people try to tell us to be 493 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: like these immigrant groups who are incentivized to come over 494 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: here to use our tax dollars and they're allowed to 495 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: have their businesses thrived without hinderance. Down in Texas, there's 496 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: a very successful black business called the Turkey leg Hut 497 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: a year ago where a bunch of white people in 498 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the community tried to get together and sabotage that business 499 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: because it was so successful. This only happens to us, 500 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: and we don't get any kind of protections from the 501 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: Democrats or the Republicans. And when black people are crippled 502 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: economically and then we have to become dependent on welfare 503 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: or anything like that we're told where we just have 504 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps. Non, we have 505 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: to start pulling the white supremacists by their bootstraps and 506 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: get them off of us. So you mentioned how it's 507 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: a narrative that you gotta pull yourself up by your bootstraps, 508 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: which is something we we know and I understand when 509 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: people say, hey, you know, how can I pull myself 510 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: up by my bootstraps when I don't have any boots? 511 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: I get that, but me as an example, and I 512 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: know we're not a monolithic people. Everybody has different experiences. 513 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I grew up on the South Side of Chicago, extremely poor, lights, 514 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: gas and word off. At the same time, mom addicted 515 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: to drugs. But yet, and still, I was motivated enough 516 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: to go to my local Artuman's office because I had 517 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: an interest in politics and volunteered. Then it led to 518 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: an internship, and then another internship, then a job part time, 519 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth, to the point that 520 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: I now work for the number one cable network in 521 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: the country, have a successful book out podcast, a consulting firm, 522 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: and a number of other things. So do you think 523 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that oftentimes we will give excuses within our community as 524 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: to why person can't be as successful as a you 525 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: or me because of maybe slavery or or something else. 526 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: We as black people, we make it all the time. 527 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: We're very successful, relatively all the time. We've always been 528 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: a successful, resilient, resourceful people in spite of the most 529 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: atrocious system ever created, which is white supremacy. We shouldn't 530 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: have to overcome systematic white supremacy in order to be successful. 531 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Other groups, well, some of them do because in their 532 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: home countries, a lot of their home countries are destroyed 533 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: by white supremacy, and directly this is why they have 534 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: to flee to come over here. But we shouldn't have 535 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: to overcome all of these insane obstacles in order to 536 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: just thrive in order to live a normal life. I 537 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: have looked when I was young, I used to go 538 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: to jail all the time, living in South central Los Angeles, 539 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: me and my friends. And I wasn't a game banger, 540 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: but my friends were, and being with them, they would 541 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: have game sweeps in Los Angeles where if you look 542 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: like a gang member you get swept up. If you 543 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: had blue or red in your shoestrings, you would get arrested. 544 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: So I would go to jail with my friends. All 545 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: the time I was homeless, I would have to live 546 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: in a library in the daytime and wash up there. 547 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: And while I was in the library, I would read 548 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of books. This is why I knew so 549 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: much stuff and I learned so much stuff because I 550 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: was homeless, having to live in a damn library in 551 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: the daytime, because I didn't have the opportunities afforded to me. 552 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: I am a high school dropout, dropped out of school 553 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: in the eleventh grade. I never graduated. But today I 554 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: have a multimillion dollar production company. I have six of 555 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: the best selling documentary films on black history ever. I 556 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: did that in spite of systematic white supremacy. But I 557 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: never negate the impact that white supremacy had and the 558 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: backlash that we get when we're successful in spite of it. 559 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Because see, when black people are successful, a lot of 560 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: times black people are told, you gotta give props to 561 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the white person who help you. It's what I call 562 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the Oprah effect. Oprah was told when she grows up, 563 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: just find some good white people and let them take 564 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: care of you, and let them help you and elevate you. 565 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: But what happens when her Yeah, her grandmother told her 566 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: that go find some good people, and a lot of 567 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: people Black folks unfortunately subscribed to that mentality. But when 568 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: we become successful without the good white people, then we 569 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: become a threat. Because my success, and I used success relatively, 570 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: did not come from good white people helping me. My 571 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: films are independent. When I put out books that was independent, 572 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: and my books were best sellers, we become a threat. 573 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: I can't go to Europe. I can't go to the 574 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: UK right now. The UK banned me because of my 575 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: last film. I did a film called Hidden Color Spive. 576 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: It's just talking about racism. I was gonna go out 577 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: there to promote it, and they pulled me off an 578 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: airplane and told me if I if I go to 579 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: the UK, I'm gonna be detained. They I'm one of 580 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: the I think six black Americans that's banned from going 581 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: to the UK. I think one person, Mike Tyson, I 582 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: think Mr Ferrikon has banned and a couple of others. 583 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: But I'm one of the six, and I was banned 584 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: because they told me that, well, my message is not 585 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: conducive to the good of the UK. When we start 586 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: doing things like that, we become a threat and a 587 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: system that's threatening people and trying to um punish people 588 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: systematically for calling that system out. That's a system that 589 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't exist. But I think you just demonstrated my point. 590 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: You also build your way up, and you did it 591 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: without the help of many people. I'm sure there's people 592 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: will get you encouraging words, and there was some some 593 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: form of assistance along the way. But you said, you're 594 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: you're a high school dropout, You lived in a library, 595 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: you read books, and you created a multimillion dollar business 596 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: for yourself, and from what I know, at least one 597 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: of your books is a New York Time bestseller. Is 598 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: that right? Okay? So with that being the case, do 599 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: you think within our community like to to your point 600 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: of what you were able to accomplish, what I was 601 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: able to accomplish. We oftentimes give crutches to our people 602 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: and say, well, you know, you can't do this because 603 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: a white supremacy is stopping you. You can't do this 604 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: because we live in a racist country. You can't do 605 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: this for this or that reason. And more often than not, 606 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: people believe that, and they don't even put in the 607 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: effort to try or when they do try, they give 608 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: up early because they were told that things are so 609 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: bad and everyone so racist, or why even put in 610 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: the effort. You know what's funny, it's the opposite though. 611 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Most people who are not aware of white supremacy. Many 612 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: of them are the ones who actually failed, because see, 613 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: they're the ones who walk into the traps. You know 614 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people who get killed by these race 615 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: soldiers posing as police out here. A lot of these 616 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: are the black folks who have no idea on how 617 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: systematic racism works. When they get out here, they think 618 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: everything is hunky dory. They think, well, I can just 619 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: do whatever I want to do. And when we see 620 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: these brothers and sisters get killed, the main thing I 621 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: see them say is, well, I know my rights. You 622 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be doing this. I know my rights. 623 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: And these are people who do not understand how systematic 624 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: white supremacy work at all, and they fall into the traps. 625 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: That's the very dangerous thing. When people are not aware 626 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: of the system that controls them, You're going to fail 627 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: at that system. Because what happens when you fail. You 628 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: think it's something that's internal. You think, okay, well, as 629 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: a black person. I'm just not it enough. The white 630 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: media tells black people where you're just incompetent, all the 631 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: things that's happening to you. The reason why you're in 632 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: the ghetto is because you guys are just naturally inferior. 633 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: So black people internalize these fabricated messages, and that's the 634 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: thing that makes them not want to try. They don't 635 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: understand who's orchestrating this stuff. I learned at a very 636 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: early age that white supremacy was a real thing, and 637 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: I became successful because I navigated around it and I 638 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: never fell into the traps. Well, I stopped falling into 639 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: the traps because I was falling into the traps at 640 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: one point. But after I learned how systematic white supremacy work, 641 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: I would learn how to navigate the traps and become 642 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: relatively relatively successful. Okay, so I'll move on on that 643 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: on on that point, but I do think we need 644 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: to empower our community more and beyond whatever racism may exist. 645 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: We need to really and I get what you're saying 646 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: in terms of we shouldn't have to do X, Y 647 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: and Z. We shouldn't have to be trying to figure 648 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: out a strategy to avoid racism and all this kind 649 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: of stuff, because it does exist, like than anyone who 650 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: says it doesn't is lying. But things aren't what they 651 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: used to be, for sure, and things have certainly progressed, 652 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: but there's still more work to be done. But I 653 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: want to ask you that there's no such I got 654 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: to disagree with that real quick. There's no such thing 655 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: as progressive racism. Things have not progressed. We have not 656 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: made one iota of progress at all. I want black 657 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: folks to really understand that there's no such thing as 658 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: progressive racism. We are in the same position as we 659 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: were in the eighteen hundreds relative to the dominant society. 660 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: There's zero changes in the dominant society. During slavery, you 661 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: have free black people who were relatively successful. Right now, 662 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: we have free black people who are relatively successful. We 663 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: got the jay z s and the Operus. We had 664 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: well to do black people back then, relatively, But as 665 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: far as our relations to the dominant society, as far 666 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: as owning things and um being free to do what 667 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: we want to do without the dominant society being in 668 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: a position to take us out anytime they feel like it, 669 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: we have not moved one i order from there. Okay, 670 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: but you got you got networks like BT and so 671 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: on and so forth. People own banks. And when you 672 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: talk about the dominant society and how people can can 673 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: stop you, the government is always positioned to stop a person. 674 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: So that that exists for everyone, not just black people. Right. No, 675 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: because today there was a story about some of the 676 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: people who raided the Capitol building on the white women. 677 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: She requested to go on vacation to Mexico and they 678 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: gave So no, it don't exist. No, I don't know 679 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: no black people who can storm a capitol building and 680 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: then get a trip to Mexico to go on vacation. No, 681 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: So we have not moved one iota. Okay, So I 682 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: disagree with the movement, but we'll we'll move on. And 683 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. I want to ask you 684 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: about slavery because oftentimes we in our community we talk 685 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: about slavery. We talk about how if it wasn't for slavery, 686 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: we would be our community be in better conditions, et cetera, 687 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: which I understand and I do agree. Um, but people 688 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: take on on the role of slavery and make it 689 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: a part of it, in some cases a central part 690 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: of their identity and their day to day life. Um, 691 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: does that risk them defining themselves primarily as a victim? 692 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: And are you concerned that such a mentality can make 693 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: them feel powerless and be less self reliant. I don't 694 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: know if anybody who who takes on slavery as a 695 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: part of their daily life. I don't. I don't. I 696 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: don't know any black there's people. There's people will say 697 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: things like, oh, yeah, you know what, because of slavery, 698 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: I can't do this, My family can't be successful, our 699 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: community isn't successful because of slavery. UM. And it's it's 700 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: continued to be mentioned, at least where I grew up, 701 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: that that's the case. Yeah, I don't know. I've never 702 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: heard anybody saying, well, we can't be successful because of slavery, 703 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: because that's not true. We have been successful, um, in 704 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: spite of slavery Black people, we have created so many 705 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: things in spite of slavery. Even during slavery, And I 706 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: was talking about this for Black History mom, there were 707 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: black people coming out of slavery, UM, getting all types 708 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: of things invented. Some of the radiators and central heating 709 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: and all this stuff was created by former slaves. So 710 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: we have been successful in a lot of things. So 711 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of us don't have the mentality that we 712 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: cannot be successful because of slavery. But we understand that 713 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: because slavery existed and the wealth generated from slavery was 714 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: maldistributed to the dominant society and denied us, we still 715 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: have not gotten the reparations were supposed to get and 716 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: people still thrive and live off our um the wealth 717 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: generated from the labor of our people. That wealth has 718 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: not disappeared. That money is still here today, and people 719 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: are passing that money down and it's becoming more aggregated, 720 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: and it's becoming more immense, and it's helping the dominant 721 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: society while we have to figure out ways to kind 722 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: of make ends meet and thrive in spite of the 723 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: legacy of slavery. Well speaking, you mentioned reparations, and I 724 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: wanna go to a comment you made back in August. 725 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: You proposed the reparation package starting in twenty trillion dollars, 726 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: and now I'm quoting you, that would be a five 727 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: hundred thousand going to every foundational Black American whose lineage 728 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: traces back to the American slave trade. That was enforced 729 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: by the government. These payments can be dispersed in increments 730 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: of eight thousand dollars a month for five years. Why 731 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: do you think descendants of slaves at this particular point 732 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: in time should be receiving reparations because this country built 733 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: all of its wealth off the free labor of black people, 734 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: and there is no time cut off for it. Um, 735 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: We're still here. We're still filling the legacy of the 736 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: lack of resources. The people in the dominant society are 737 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: still thriving off the resources. This is not a new government. 738 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: It's the same exact government. It's not like people use 739 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: the argument, well there were slavery all over there was 740 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: slavery in Rome. Well the Roman government back then is 741 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: not here anymore. So do you take that up with 742 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: some redallions. The United States government that benefited off the 743 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: free labor of founding black Americans, that everybody came over 744 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: and benefited from. That government is still alive. The Constitution 745 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: is still here, and we have still not got knows 746 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: those um, how many acres enem you? How many are so? Yeah, 747 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: we need those forty acres ENEMU. They understand how important 748 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: it is that we descendants of slaves get those resources 749 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: because other groups get the resources when they've been aggrieved. 750 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: When Jewish people they get some of them get money 751 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: from the Holocaust to this day. Um, the Japanese, they 752 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: got reparations for being put in internment camps. Um. Native 753 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: American groups and I'm talking about the red Native Americans, 754 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: and many of them today are not the real Native Americans. 755 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: You have what we call a bunch of five dollar Indians, 756 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: meaning white people who paid money to the census takers 757 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: in the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds to be 758 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: classified as Native Americans so that they can get some 759 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: of that land. But all types of billions of dollars 760 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: allocated to Native American tribes, but nothing is allocated to us. 761 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: When we talk about giving something to the people who 762 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: built this nation from scratch for free, then all people 763 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: have to get something and it will trickle down to us. 764 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: So no, we're gonna have to get reparations specifically for 765 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: foundation of Black Americans because we were specifically aggrieved and targeted. 766 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: So for for the white Americans who didn't have anything 767 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: to do with slavery, and I know you probably go 768 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: back to their descendants should they be involved in the 769 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: process of repaying the debt if you will, in the 770 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: form of reparations. If you lived in this government, if 771 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: you lived on this land, you benefited from slavery. Everything 772 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: in this country was built on slave labor, every dime 773 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: and renook, every cranny. If you lived here, you've benefited 774 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: from slavery. You wore a part of the slave trade. 775 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: The railroads were built off slavery. All the corporations were 776 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: built off slavery. The insurance companies as we know it 777 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: was built off slavery, the medical industry as we know 778 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: it was built off slavery. Every thing was built off slavery. 779 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: Black people were the first stocks and bonds on Wall Street. 780 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: Everybody benefited from it, and they've gotten the resources they've gotten, 781 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: And people who were classified as white were designated as 782 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: a privileged protected class that will get some of those 783 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: maldistributed resources. When they had the Homestead Act in this country, 784 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: they allocated land for white Europeans to come over and 785 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: get free land based off the tax dollars that was 786 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: used to acquire the land. In the West, black people 787 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: were specifically not allowed to get that land. So I 788 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: mean just policy after policy that disenfranchised black people, but 789 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: elevated people in the dominant white society. And they didn't 790 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: refuse none of that land. When some of these European 791 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: immigrants hopped on these boats to get over here, they 792 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: knew that they were going to get unearned benefits from 793 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: the free labor acquired or accumulated from black labor, from 794 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: the wealth accumulated from black labor. They knew what they 795 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: were getting when they came over here. That was the 796 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 1: American dream. The American and dream was for other groups 797 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: classified as white and then later other groups to come 798 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: over here and benefit off the free labor and the 799 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: unearned benefits that black people accumulated. So all of these 800 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: people who come over here are responsible for the resources 801 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: that were deprived of black people. I'm I want to 802 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: read you a couple of quotes from leaders of the 803 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: Civil Rights era, then get your response. Dr John Morcial, 804 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: assistant director the Double A CP during the Civil Rights era, 805 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: described the idea of reparations as an illogical, divisionary, and 806 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: paltry way out for guilt written whites and civil rights 807 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: leader Barriott Rustin, who organized the March on Washington the 808 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: nineteen three, said that if my great grandfather picked cotton 809 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: for fifty years. Then he may deserve some money, but 810 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: he's dead and gone and nobody owes me anything. His 811 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: point is basically that he doesn't make sense for people 812 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: who never own slaves to get money to people who 813 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: were never slaves that make amends for slavery. How do 814 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: you respond to not I never put Native Americans off 815 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: on a reservation. Why does my tax dollars go to 816 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: pay them today? I never put any people who are 817 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: Jewish and concentration camps, but our tax dollars go to 818 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: some of those descendants today. I didn't put Japanese people 819 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: in internment camps, but our tax dollars went to helping 820 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: out the descendants of the Japanese families. See billions of 821 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: dollars are going to Native American tribes today. These are 822 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: tax dollars that we pay for. I didn't disenfranchise any 823 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: immigrant groups in their home countries, but our tax dollars 824 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: are going to doc A programs and Dreamer programs and 825 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: bringing people over and putting them in h b c 826 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: u s. A lot of these illegal immigrants come over 827 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: and go to black colleges, colleges that were designed for 828 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: US and our tax dollars are paying for it. I 829 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't do anything to these folks, but my tax dollars 830 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: is still responsible for them. So if my tax dollars 831 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: are responsible for these people who don't have anything to 832 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: do with what's going on in the United States, then 833 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: the tax dollars should be allocated it to the people 834 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: and the descendants of the folks who built this nation, 835 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: and they've been disenfranchised every since they built this nation. Say, 836 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: that's an interesting argument. Um, I think people will have 837 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: something to think about in terms of that. But I 838 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: know folks will also wonder if my especially the point 839 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: you raised is a good one, I think, um, and 840 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: the sense that, yeah, why our tax dollars going to 841 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: the folks who may be in a doctor program or 842 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: may never have been American citizens themselves. So I can understand, 843 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: even citizens, we were giving tax dollars the folks who 844 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: are not citizens. But we also we also send tax 845 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: dollars over the countries that we really shouldn't be sending 846 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: over to. Like if you look at the stimulus package 847 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: that recently was issued, what do you see three hundred billion, 848 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: A hundred billion here, three billion there. Meanwhile, folks in 849 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: our own country aren't getting the aid and assist that 850 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: they really need to move forward during COVID. So this 851 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: has been a backward system for a long long time. 852 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: And now we're in a position whereas I may not 853 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: agree with our tax dollars currently going to folks being 854 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: paid for reparations in these other areas that whatever mouth 855 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: FEASA is the government might have provided during that time. 856 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to note where we are right now 857 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: in terms of people actually really looking for that kind 858 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: of assistance in the form of an eight thousand dollar 859 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: check for five years. That's a pretty high bar. Twenty 860 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: trillion dollars, that's a high high bar they have. They 861 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: pulled that money off of COVID. They got that money 862 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: that when they had COVID relief. That you saw how 863 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: fast they pulled out from trillions of dollars they got 864 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: money for that. They this is a very wealthy country. 865 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: They got all this money for military spending. Listen, that 866 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: money should be going to foundational Black Americans because look, 867 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be spending the money anyway. See, they spend 868 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: all this money harming black people. They use all of 869 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: these billions and trillions of dollars to come up with 870 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: military weaponry and all of these things too, to attack 871 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: black people at these riots and at these protests. I 872 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,439 Speaker 1: remember going to Baltimore doing the Freddy Gray protests, and 873 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: they're to be at least two or three billion dollars 874 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: worth of military weaponry out there just for unarmed black 875 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: teams fighting against nonjustice. So they can do with the 876 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: easy way of the hard way. They can keep trying 877 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: to disenfranchise Black Americans will still keep rising up against 878 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: it because we've never been broken. We've always fought against 879 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: nonjustice with the most resilient people in that regard. And 880 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: this is why they have to have a military complex 881 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: with the weapons pointed at us. You've noticed when the 882 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: white people raided the White House and the Capitol Building, 883 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: you didn't see none of those billions of dollars worth 884 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: of tanks and rocket launchers and drones. You saw none 885 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: of that. They acted like their hands were tied. All 886 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: of those weapons are made for us, So y'all can 887 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: spend your money on that, or you can do the 888 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: right thing and give the reparations you're supposed to give 889 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: so that we can have a peaceful and equitable existence 890 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: here without using anti black racism as your cultural barometer. 891 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: Anti black race sism is something that codifies all of 892 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: the white supremacists and all of these other groups. This 893 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: is why they only complain when tax dollars are supposed 894 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: to go to specific black people. That's the only time 895 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a problem. If tax dollars are going to non citizens, 896 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: they have no problem with it. But just the idea 897 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: that black people are going to be getting something that 898 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: nobody else is supposed to get. See, that messes up 899 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: the the hierarchy of racism. Remember, black people have to 900 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: be on the bottom. And the minute you start talking 901 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: about taking black people off the bottom, well the whole 902 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: culture of white supremacy is going to collapse. As it should. 903 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: We shouldn't have a culture of white supremacy. Everything should 904 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: be equitable. Let's shift now to the Biden administration. Your 905 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on the new president and what Black people should 906 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: hope from him, if anything. I want to ask you 907 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: about that right after a quick break. Do you think 908 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a racist? I believe that he's a 909 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: suspected white supremacist. Joe Biden has a long track record 910 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: of ants out black racism. I have zero respect for 911 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. His crime bill was horrible. He had segregationist 912 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: views in the seventies. His rhetoric to black people now 913 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: after they put him in office is despicable and disrespectful. 914 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: So I have zero respect for him, and um the 915 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: same lack of respect for Kamala Harris. Her track record 916 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: with black people is just as bad. I think it's 917 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: very disingenuous for the media to parade her around as 918 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: some black sister girl, which she's not. She's not a 919 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: foundation of Black American They paraded her around and did 920 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: a Jedi mind trick on black people. This woman identifies 921 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: as being an Asian and East Indian Asian, and many 922 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: of them they have a long tradition of anti black racism. 923 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: So you cannot be both this whole thing where she's 924 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: Black and East Indian. Now, you can't be a victim 925 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: of anti black racism and an anti black racist. You 926 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: can't be both. So, you know, it's very interesting to 927 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: see how these next four years gonna play. And do 928 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: you think Americans can never resolve racial tensions and what 929 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: would it take. Well, it's gonna it's going to be resolved. 930 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's inevitable that it's going to be resolved, 931 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: because what happens is the system of white supremacies should 932 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: not exist. It's an artificial system, but it's an artificial 933 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 1: system that's backed up by military might. But it's so 934 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: unnatural that it's going to teeter itself out, and that's 935 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: what it's doing. But we shouldn't have to wait until 936 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: it teeters itself out. The thing is, the universe knows 937 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: how to correct certain things. The universe can correct things 938 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: that shouldn't exist. The universe is very good on doing that. 939 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: And the system of white supremacy is un natural, meaning 940 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: a system of people who believe that their whiteness makes 941 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: them superior to others and that they should dominate, a 942 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: mistreat and control people. So what happens in order to 943 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: maintain that system, white people have created segregated enclaves for 944 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: themselves to protect their genetics. That's what segregation really is. 945 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: That's them setting up these enclaves so that they couldn't 946 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 1: mix in with the other arc masses, so that their 947 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: genetics can be protected. And what happens is you get 948 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: into these little segregated enclaves and you start intermixing and 949 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: interacting and interbreeding with each other. Then that becomes almost incestuous. 950 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: This is why some of these little segregated towns people 951 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: a white people are sleeping with their cousins and their 952 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: uncles and their mom and their grandma's is a cluster 953 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of nonsense. And this is causing 954 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: more genetic problems. This is why a lot of white 955 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: people in America are dying out now. And this is 956 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: why they're saying by forty white people are going to 957 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: be the minority here in America. And this is why 958 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: there's a scramble now for them to um set up 959 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: an apartheid system here to rule as a minority as 960 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: they do in South Africa. Because this is why when 961 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden got on that call with the black leaders, 962 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was like, hey man, we're gonna have to 963 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: start working with the Hispanics. See, they're gonna try to 964 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: widen up these other groups. So they're putting these other 965 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: groups into like a hay process. So it's a real 966 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: crazy thing that's going on now. This is why a 967 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: lot of the white supremacists are panicking at this point. 968 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: So it's it's the next few years is going to 969 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: be very interesting. Wow. Okay, so yeah, that was that 970 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: was quite a quite a thought there. So you're saying 971 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: that the Democrats are utilizing or rather white supremacist as 972 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: you put it, Um, they're creating a cast system to 973 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: rule as the minority. Um. And it's not the fact 974 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of Hispanics are coming over here and 975 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: becoming legal and building families, which is creating a new majority. 976 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: So that's not really the reason for that. Well, Biden 977 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: said something very interesting again a couple of months ago. 978 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: He said, and this was Biden, he said, Hey, look, 979 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: whites are going to be the minority in in He 980 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: said this, this is Biden talking. So we're gonna have 981 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: to do something fast. So they you know, they're catching 982 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: Biden saying all of this stuff. He's talking like Richard 983 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: Spencer on some of these damn calls. They're getting them on. 984 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: So what they've always done because Anglo white people, they've 985 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 1: all they've been a minority for a long time. They've 986 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: let a lot of other groups come over and they've 987 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: ingratiated them into whiteness in order to boost the numbers 988 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: of Globally white people are less than ten percent of 989 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 1: the global population um relative to the world population, they're 990 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 1: really not a lot of white people, even in Europe. 991 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: This is why they do not all that Blexic stuff 992 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: in Europe to try to get all the non white 993 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: people up out and then try to control um them 994 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: coming in and out of Europe. But there are really 995 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: not a lot of white people on the planet, and 996 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: they've always allowed other groups to come over and whiten 997 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: up who were not considered white before. Remember the Irish 998 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: were not considered white, but then they allowed them to 999 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: be white in order to boost the numbers. The Greeks 1000 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: and the Italians were not considered white. For a long time. 1001 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: They would call the Italian's guineas Guineas that's a nickname 1002 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: for Africans because of the dark complexion of the Italians. 1003 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: But later in the twentieth century they allowed the Italians 1004 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: to come into whiteness in order to boost the numbers up. 1005 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: So they're doing that now. They're trying to do that 1006 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: with Hispanics now. But the thing is a lot of 1007 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: Hispanic culture is rooted in African culture, so they're real 1008 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: touchy feeling about that Hispanic thing. But that's the best deal. 1009 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna get in order to boost those white numbers up. 1010 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: So they do little stuff like that scientific racism. That's 1011 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 1: a real thing. And another thing that they're doing now 1012 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: is they're getting into something called trans humanism. That's another 1013 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: thing that a lot of people need to look into 1014 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: in order to um sustain their numbers and to sustain 1015 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: their genetics. Epstein was into that. I think Elon Musker 1016 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,919 Speaker 1: he's into that real heavy. He just announced that they're 1017 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna start putting computer chips and people's brains and using 1018 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: computers to get in all people's into people's genetics. So 1019 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: all of this stuff is all about eugenics and survival, 1020 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: trans humanism and all of these little racial tactics they do. 1021 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: It's all a form of eugenics, and it's a it's 1022 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing when you look at the dynamics 1023 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: of it. And and Joe Biden is the head of 1024 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: that because as we know, Republicans want legal immigration. They 1025 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: don't want to bring a bunch of folks in and 1026 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: just make them legal, right right, right, Well, I won't 1027 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: say the head of it. You know they with the Republicans. 1028 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: The thing is with them, anti black racism is old 1029 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: hat to them. You know they try to you know, 1030 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: they smacking around helpless black people. You know, they've been there, 1031 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 1: done that. So they got other issues they look at. 1032 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: But with the Democrats them undermining us and coming up 1033 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: with ways to undermine us with other groups, you know, 1034 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 1: that's really that's therefore, Tay, And that's why I say 1035 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: the Democrats are oftentimes more dangerous than these all right 1036 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: Republicans that people point to. Yeah, I know there's a 1037 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: lot of races. I call out the alt right and 1038 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: all of the Richard Spencers and all these unite the 1039 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: right people all the time. But again, they have not 1040 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: done anything as far as policies to undermine black the 1041 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: people that we've seen since Trump was in office, So 1042 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: we we don't. In the nineteen sixties, Lyndon B. Johnson, 1043 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 1: he signed the Civil Rights Act. This man was all 1044 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: on video, not video, but he's all on secret tapes 1045 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: calling Dr King all types of niggas and all types 1046 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. So he was a card carrying racist. But 1047 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 1: the thing is his policies, ultimately um benefited black people 1048 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: to a certain degree, and it was because of Republicans 1049 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: supporting that nineteen sixty five Civil Rights billers which is 1050 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: what you're referring to. Democrats and the Senate didn't want 1051 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: to support it, and they had the majority too. Well, 1052 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: they got on board because it was black people in 1053 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: the streets whooping asked that's no, no, no, no. They 1054 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,399 Speaker 1: didn't get on board. Actually it was Republicans in the city. 1055 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: The ultimately was the reason that it passed. They didn't 1056 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: want to support it. They didn't want to get black 1057 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,399 Speaker 1: folks rights. And that's the history of the Democratic Party. 1058 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: It's a racist party, that's what it's about. But both 1059 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: of them though nothing. Neither one really wanted to. Neither 1060 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: one really wanted to. They were forced to. They didn't 1061 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: do that. Let's be very clear. It wasn't like some 1062 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: type of political disagreement between the Democrats and Republicans. The 1063 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: they got on board because black people were in the 1064 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: streets forcing them to. Even the nineteen eight Act of 1065 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: Fair Housing that was forced on the government by black people, 1066 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: they didn't get in the room and just find religion. 1067 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: They when Dr King got killed in April April fourth, 1068 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: the that new civil rights bill, the Fair Housing Act, 1069 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,439 Speaker 1: was signed seven days later. Why was it signed seven 1070 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: days later? Because black people had something called Holy Week 1071 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: black people were burning this country down. Black people got 1072 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: in the streets and started whipping ass and forced Johnson 1073 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: to sign that bill seven days later. So they've never 1074 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: got religion with each other. We always had to force 1075 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: them to do what we needed them to do. So 1076 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm not giving either one of them credit for any 1077 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: of that. But I say that even though you have 1078 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: a racist or an open races in the office, at 1079 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you push them hard enough, 1080 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: they'll do the right thing. No, I don't think Joe 1081 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: Biden has any intention of doing the right thing. And 1082 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: I'll end on this point. The Republican Party was started 1083 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty four in opposition to the Against Nebraska Act, 1084 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: which wanted to expand slavery. So it's foundations were about, uh, 1085 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: ending slavery, and I can appreciate that, but I understand 1086 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: so oh, no question about it, no question about it. 1087 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't deny that, not one bit, No no question 1088 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely So I want to thank 1089 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on you. I certainly have 1090 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: a point of view that we really don't hear here often, 1091 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: so I really appreciate you coming out and sharing your 1092 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on a plethora of things, and um, I certainly 1093 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: want to before you go, let everybody know where they 1094 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: can find your films, your books, your social media handles, 1095 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: and if you have any big projects coming up, you 1096 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: can get all my films that hidden colors film dot com. 1097 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: Hidden Colors Film dot Com, you get all my films. 1098 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: So I got a new film coming out in a 1099 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: couple of months called buck Breaking and that's gonna be 1100 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: a very interesting one that's coming out in April. 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