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Speaker 1: Straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntire, Straight fire. Poor Thursday,

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Speaker 1: April fourteen, Little groggy this morning. No, it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: late night out for me. Did play soccer last night.

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Speaker 1: Kareem Benzema and Real Madrid, a lot of good soccer.

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Speaker 1: It's the year of soccer, folks. You know that World

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Speaker 1: team in Liga MX. Massive game this weekend for us

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Speaker 1: oh Nikosa. It's been a rough run last two games.

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Speaker 1: At any rate. You don't care about that. You're here

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Speaker 1: to talk about the little NBA. But we have a

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Speaker 1: get to Major League Baseball. Yeah, there's some baseball to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Little NFL not not a ton of NFL. Kind of

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Speaker 1: Let that run its course. Let the NBA playoffs kick off,

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Speaker 1: to I think the biggest story in sports today is

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Speaker 1: our guest, Brian wyn Horst. You know he's been on

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Speaker 1: here a bunch of times. Author does a podcast for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Guys followed Lebron Miami Cleveland. Really good journalist who knows

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Speaker 1: It's a good interview. I think you guys will like it.

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly, briefly, and I do mean briefly, toggle through

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Last night. It was a good night for

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Speaker 1: me on the gambling front. Spurs did not get home

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Speaker 1: Pel's win rather handily. Mc collum was great, Ingram was good,

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Speaker 1: definitely worth watching. The other game was a snoozer. Oh

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Speaker 1: lead the Spurs of twenty three points. Every I told

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Speaker 1: That's the saying in New Orleans. Not gonna score on

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Speaker 1: Herb Jones and in the other game, the Hawks man

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Speaker 1: handle the Hornets, not even close. Second half. It was

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Speaker 1: dives into matchups that work. P J. Washington was going

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Speaker 1: I know that Calves don't have the wings to defend

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Speaker 1: went North. I couldn't believe this story in Major League Baseball, right,

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Speaker 1: fire him? I mean, I think they want to extend them. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I guess that's one of the best coaches in

422
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Speaker 1: the league. I agree with a good coach. But when

423
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: when a team has run its course, isn't the move

424
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: first Let's dump the coach, then let's break up the

425
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: Stars like Philadelphia said, you know what, We'll give it

426
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: one more shot. Didn't work. You know, they get Doc

427
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Speaker 1: Rivers in there, then they dump Ben Simmons. I mean, historically,

428
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: isn't that the move coach first then stars. I would

429
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Speaker 1: not let Quinn Snyder go. I would not let Quinn

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Speaker 1: Snyder go at all. No, I I would. You know,

431
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: if Quinn Snyder goes to the Jazz and says I

432
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Speaker 1: don't want to be the coach anymore, then that's one thing.

433
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Speaker 1: But then I still wouldn't. I still wouldn't let him

434
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Speaker 1: coach for free. I'd still be like, Okay, well, you're

435
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: under contract next year, we're gonna keep sending your checks.

436
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: If you want to coach somewhere else, they can call

437
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: us and we'll talk about compensation. I just think the

438
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: assumption that Quinn Snyder is going to be free and

439
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: clear to coach is an error. And like him being

440
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: free and coach, him being free and clear to coach

441
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: a team in the Eastern Conference is one thing. Him

442
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: leaving the Jazz to go coach the Lakers is a

443
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: totally other thing. I just that'd be bad business. Did

444
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: be bad business. So I mean, I don't even I mean, like,

445
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: until I hear Quinn Snyder is a completely free to coach,

446
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a worthwhile question. Conspiracy theorists one

447
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: or O'Brien. Dwayne Wade is now a voice in the

448
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: ear of the wealthy Jazz owner. Dwayne Wade good friends

449
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: with Lebron. Hey man, we can have a backup plan

450
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: if we dump Quinn Snyder, let him let's go to Lakers.

451
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: We got we got a guy. Maybe Dwayne Wade has

452
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: already handpicked his next coach. I don't know, Yeah, I don't.

453
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much Dwayne. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: Dwayne has a huge role in that whole thing. I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a fractional owner, and he you know,

456
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Speaker 1: as an advisor. I'm you know, Danny Ainge is the

457
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: is the president, and they have a general manager too,

458
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: and then they have an owner, and then they have

459
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade Um and then you have Donovan Mitchell. I

460
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of voices there. I'm not sure

461
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: you know Um, but uh, you know, I mean, I

462
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: obviously no Mark Um. He hasn't gotten a serious consideration

463
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: to be a head coach since he got fired, and

464
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: I think he's had some interviews. Maybe he hasn't good

465
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Speaker 1: serious consideration. But I would just say that if you're

466
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Speaker 1: if you're considering the Lakers, UM, I would want to

467
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: hear their plan. Uh, you know, I I will say

468
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: this that what plan I I see. I have seen

469
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: people say that, oh, it's not a good job, that

470
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: people are not gonna want it, you know. I saw.

471
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: I don't know who to attach it to, but I

472
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: saw somebody say that the way they handled Frank Vogel

473
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: was off putting. I don't believe that. I think that

474
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: there were the opportunity to coach the Lakers is very enticing.

475
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: People want to be in l A. People want that job.

476
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: I think people will be clawing over each other to

477
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Speaker 1: get it. Uh. The question I think is whether the

478
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: Lakers can get their preference. It won't be a matter

479
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: of having good candidates. In fact, you could argue that

480
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good time to be the Laker

481
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: head coach because the expectations will be so low. Um.

482
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: When Frank Vocal came in, they had just traded for

483
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, the expectations were extremely high, and you know

484
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: he he helped deliver um for for this one. You know,

485
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: the expectations are going to be low, especially if they

486
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: can't do something with Westbrook that gives you the chance

487
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: to improve the team. So I think it's a good

488
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: time to take the Laker job. Um. So they don't

489
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: think they'll have any shortage of people who want it.

490
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know if, um, you know, if they're

491
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to, you know, get the guy that

492
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Speaker 1: they may prioritize. I say the name Jewe Howard. You say,

493
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Speaker 1: I mean with all honesty, that rumor has been out

494
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Speaker 1: in the in my world for at least three four months.

495
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: So um you know, I mean, I know Juwan, I

496
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: know him a little bit. I covered him when he

497
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: was with the Heat, when he was first on staff

498
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: with the Heat. Um, I like him personally. You know,

499
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: he was teammate of Rob Polinka's um, he was a

500
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: teammate of Lebrons. You know, there's a connection with Robin,

501
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: a connection with Lebron. Um. You know, I I don't.

502
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't follow college basketball close enough, so I know

503
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: they made the Elite Eight last year and they kind

504
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: of were a surprise second round team this year. I

505
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: don't know how he is grated out as a coach.

506
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like they might have had an

507
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: underwhelming season this year a little bit. Um. But that

508
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: name has been out there, you know, behind the scenes

509
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: for months. But Briant, at his level and at the Lakers,

510
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: does it really matter what he did at Michigan last year.

511
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it more like about relationships and name

512
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: and you know, not to sound like an idiot, but

513
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, African American coach relationship with Lebron and Peblinka.

514
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, yeah, I mean, um, well, everything you're

515
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: saying makes sense. I mean, I mean I think that

516
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: it would make total sense if he got an interview

517
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: for that job. Um again, I'd like to say, what's

518
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: the plan. What's the Lakers plan for their person element?

519
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: What do you want Howard's planned for that personnel. I mean, um,

520
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: you know, hearing what Russell Westbrook said after the season, Like,

521
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: on one hand, I kind of respect the fact that

522
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: he went after Lebron and a D because not many

523
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: people go after Lebron and a D. Who uh, So

524
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that that's an interesting move. Um.

525
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I remain absolutely flabbergasted that there was ever a time

526
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: that Russ, Lebron, and a D sat together, which apparently

527
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: happened on several occasions before the season, before the trade,

528
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: and they agreed on what their roles were and how

529
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: they were going to work together, because I listened to

530
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Westbrook talk and Westbrook basically blamed the season on him

531
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: not being able to play like he wants to play,

532
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: and you know, the team would be better if he

533
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: had just been allowed to accumulate more stats. And I

534
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: thought that part was delusional, and so I questioned what

535
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Russ agreed to like when they shook hands at the

536
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: end of that. You know, I think Lebron was doing

537
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: his recruiting at his house. I know. Dame Lillard told

538
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Chris Haines from Yahoo the story about going to Lebron

539
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: has this awesome and I just know from seeing on

540
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: I G. I haven't been invited. Lebron has this awesome

541
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: rooftop set up at his house in Brentwood, and um,

542
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: it's got like a fire pit, and I'm sure it's

543
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: got a great view of l A. I don't know

544
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: if it faces downtown or or the west coast or whatever,

545
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: but west to the coast, I should day. But he's

546
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: got this beautiful rooftop um deck and Dame um told

547
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: Chris about going up there and you know, talking about,

548
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, the idea of playing with the Lakers, and

549
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: so I have to assume, I mean, I'm just assuming

550
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: to be clear that, you know, I think de Rosen

551
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: met with Lebron too, So I don't know if Lebron

552
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: brought the Rosen up there Dame up there, um, but

553
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: I assumed that, like when he met with Westbrook, whether

554
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: it was on the roof or not, that they had

555
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: like a meeting of the minds, like Hey, this is

556
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: how we're gonna play. And I can't believe that Westbrook

557
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanna you know,

558
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: dominate the ball like the time, and I'm gonna try

559
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: to keep getting triple doubles and you go just stand

560
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: down on the post, come set screens for me. And

561
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: when I feel like throwing a t I will um

562
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get all the rebounds and you know,

563
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna initiate the ball. Like I find it hard

564
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: to believe that that was the agreement. But in listening

565
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: to Westbrook describe what he thought went wrong in the season,

566
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what did you how did you

567
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: think this was gonna go? So if I was a coach,

568
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: a perspective coach, and I heard Westbrook talk about that,

569
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I'd be like, wow, he just should have gotten like

570
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: the biggest dish of humble pie in his life. Like

571
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I would think like Carmelo Anthony would be like, you know, yeah,

572
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: December tenth would be putting his arm around Russ and say, hey,

573
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: now let's go to dinner. I want to talk to

574
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: you about how I have to change your career, you know,

575
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: just you know, when you go, you know, to be

576
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: more of a role player, you change your career. Like

577
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: I would hope that somebody in his life would pull

578
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: him aside and tell him the story about Alan Iverson. Now,

579
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Iverson went from like you know a franchise point guard

580
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: centerpiece to out of the league in a blink of

581
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: an eye because of his unwillingness to adjust his game.

582
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: These are things that I had I just would have

583
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: assumed him or hope would happen. But listening to rust

584
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: talk at the end of the season, if any of

585
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: those happened, it made no impact on him. So my

586
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: hold on Brian, he hearing you talk just it led

587
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: me to one thing. A d has really said nothing

588
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: of consequence. Lebron has not said much. Russell Westbrook is

589
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: speaking like a man. It's I hope people don't hate

590
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: this analogy, but like someone on death row, it's over.

591
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: He knows his time in l A has done. He

592
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: could say whatever the hell he wants. He's not looking

593
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: good for potential employees are his next stop, but he

594
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: knows it's it's over in l A. Do you think

595
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: he has to know deep down that that ship has sailed,

596
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: He's not coming back. I mean, if there was a

597
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: chance of him coming back, I think he did a

598
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: pretty good job of submarineing it with what he said.

599
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Because assuming that's really the way he feels, I don't

600
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: know how you go forward. Like he complained, about He's like,

601
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what Vogel had against me.

602
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: I would argue that part of Vogel's mistake was having

603
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: too much faith in him. And so like, if he

604
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: thinks the next coach, whoever that is, is going to

605
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: be like more receptive to you know, his style of play,

606
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: I just I don't. Again, I don't see a way

607
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: forward there. So if I was a coach again and

608
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I sit down, um, you know, I guess I would

609
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: have to have a plan for Russ, But like, I

610
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: don't think I could sell it to him. So I'd like,

611
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: I kind of want to hear from the organization, Well,

612
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: what are you planning to do there? Before I leave

613
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: this job with the Jazz or Michigan or whomever, Please

614
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: tell me what your plan is. So I think the

615
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Lakers at least to get a guy that they want again.

616
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: I love Mark Jackson as a as a guy. I mean,

617
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I've spent some time with him. I can tell you

618
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson would love to get would love to get

619
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: a job, He would love to coach and to leave again.

620
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: And I you know, he believed, he firmly believes, and

621
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe that he could really make

622
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: a positive impact. Um, But if you want to get UM,

623
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, a candidate. You know, no one's hiring Mark Jackson.

624
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: You want to get a candidate that is more in demand,

625
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to really have

626
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: an idea of a plan on how you're gonna make

627
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: the team more attractive to coach as well. UM. Not

628
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: to pivot away from the Lakers, because everybody loves Lakers talk.

629
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: But Brian, you know every summer NBA free agency, everybody's

630
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: all excited, Oh, stars on the move, Stars on the move.

631
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, I'm looking at the potential stars on

632
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Speaker 1: the move, and you've gotta really strained credulity to come

633
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Speaker 1: up with, like the top three guys who may demand

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Speaker 1: out this summer. The guys at the top of my list.

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Speaker 1: And this is probably a little knee jerk, but the

636
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: way Karl Anthon Town's played in the play in, Anthony

637
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: Edwards clearly is the better player right now on that team.

638
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: I know Karl anton Town has had a great season,

639
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: but if this continues, maybe Cat says, I ain't the

640
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: guy here anymore. Let me go to the Knicks. I

641
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: demanded trade to the Knicks. The second guy a bit

642
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: of a pipe dream here. Maybe Jimmy Butler in supposed

643
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: to really have beef the heat implode. I don't think

644
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: it happens, but Jimmy Butler and the third guy would

645
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: be Zach Levine and the Bulls. They get swept. Levine's like,

646
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I've had enough. I'm an Olympic champion.

647
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm capable of more of this. I need to get

648
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: to a big time team. Those are the only three

649
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: big names I could come up with. Towns, Butler, and Levine.

650
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Towns is going anywhere. I think he's

651
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna make all NBA and that will make him supermaxell.

652
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: I think that will make him supermax eligible, and he'll

653
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: ask for a two fifty million dollar extension, and if

654
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: the Wolves are willing to give it to him, I

655
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: believe he'll sign it. Uh. If the Wolves aren't willing

656
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to give it to him, uh. And I would have

657
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: to assume that they are, because this week I got

658
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: a very obnoxious five ft long box filled with ten

659
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: pounds of annoying stuffing in Warrior in Wolves colors um

660
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: that I had to literally take to a dump to

661
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: get rid of uh and the whole box was aimed

662
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: at getting Carl all NBA votes. Um, yeah, I did,

663
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: but I my vote was in before before I even

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Speaker 1: got it. I mean, um, you know, it's a good

665
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: year to be a center because a lot of people,

666
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: including me, had Yo Kitchen Embiid on first Team All

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00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: n B A. I mean, I think it's ridiculous that

668
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: they can both be that think one of them can

669
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Speaker 1: be listed to four, but the rule says that they are.

670
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: And if that's the rule, I they're both two of

671
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: the top five players. So anyway, four centers made my team.

672
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: So it was a good year to try to need

673
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: to need to make it as a center because four

674
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: centers made it. So my guess is because of that situation,

675
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: Carl was gonna make it and he should ask for

676
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: a super Max. I don't think he's a super Max player,

677
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: but that's debatable. But if he signs it, then he's

678
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Speaker 1: going to stay. Um Zach Levine, I think I think

679
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the expectations that he's resigning, they can give him a

680
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: five year. They can give him five years. He's got

681
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: an injured knee and it might need to have knee

682
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: surgery in the offseason. He's hinted at it. And if

683
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: you've got if you're a little worried about your knee,

684
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: that fifth year can be really important. Again, I don't

685
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: know if the Bulls are gonna offer the fifth year,

686
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: but if they do, I think he stays. Um. The

687
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Butler thing, I mean, yeah, I mean there's definitely stuff

688
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: boiling below the surface there. Um, but let's do see

689
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: how um. I mean, let's just say that I checked

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00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: in on the Butler heat relationship after that happened, and

691
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: the response that I got back was, Um, everything is okay.

692
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: We're a little annoyed with each other. Let's not have

693
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: this happen again. But everything is okay. But I don't

694
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: think it's an unread summable thing for you to to

695
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: speculate about that. I think of the three that's I

696
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: think the bigger chance of something happening. But I don't

697
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: think right now that's hot. And he kind of wore

698
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: out his welcome right Minnesota, Chicago, Philly. Um, I know

699
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: Chicago had some weird stuff going on there, but I

700
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: don't know. There's something about Butler where he just runs

701
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: too hot on people. Maybe he just wears them down.

702
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: After a few I don't personally, no, he definitely does. No,

703
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. And by the way, the

704
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: heat did that with people too. The heat. The heat

705
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: wear people out, and Butler wears people out. So it's

706
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: not surprised. I'll just point out that, you know, last

707
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: not even twelve months ago, last August, he gave him

708
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: a four year contract extension, so you know, I mean

709
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: they they you know, they didn't do that not knowing

710
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: who he was. He'd been there two years. So alright,

711
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: three rapid fires to wrap it up, Tom Thibodeau will

712
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: be fired by the Knicks before the NBA Finals. I

713
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: don't think wow, I don't think so. No, that's a

714
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: major shocker. Okay. Um. Second, I mean, I wouldn't rule

715
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: it out, but I my feel is no. Okay. Second one,

716
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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard is in a Portland's uniform come opening night.

717
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: This fault. Not only will he be in a Portland uniform,

718
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: they're they're interim GM. Joe Cronin basically came out at

719
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: the end of the season and said, Dame is sitting

720
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: next to me on all roster moves, and I expect

721
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: them to give him a two year hundred million dollar

722
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: extension this summer, um, which is you know, debatable for

723
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: a guy in his thirties injury. Yeah, Um, I mean

724
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: it's it's smart by the Blazer's front office, because, um,

725
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: if you want a guy to be invested in your team,

726
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, help him make I mean, like, uh uh,

727
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: it's it's you have a different opinion on dinner if

728
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you made it, you know what I'm saying. Um, So

729
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: nobody tanked as hard as Portland this year, Dame wants

730
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: to join that. Well. I think their theory was, we're

731
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna get a high draft pick. They also traded for

732
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: them the Pelicans pick, which they get if it's between

733
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: five and fourteen. So the Pelicans basically need to um,

734
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: make the playoffs or miss the playoffs, but not get

735
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: lucky in the lottery and they will get it. And

736
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: I think that's probable at this point. So they would

737
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: end up with two lottery picks, um, and they could

738
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: either draft help for Dame or trade them for help

739
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: for Dame, or draft one trade one. I think that's

740
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: what their intention is, and Dame is Um. It sounds

741
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: like Dame is basically sitting side saddle on the roster move.

742
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Hil to be a Blazer

743
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: in summer, but summer two it sounds like he's pretty invested. Interesting.

744
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Palo bonchero Ban Caro would look good with Damian Lillard.

745
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean anybody would. All right, um, finally, and uh,

746
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: you know we have some Clippers fans out there. I

747
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: know they're gonna hate this, but the you know when

748
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: you when you talk about the union of Paul George

749
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: and Kawhi Leonard were now in year three bubble last year,

750
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: this year, is there any way to grade this other

751
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: than like a D or close to an F. It's

752
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: it's sad. I mean I've talked about how the Durant

753
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: Kyrie thing has not gone well, Well this hasn't gone

754
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: any better. I mean they totally use to use the

755
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: restroom down their leg in in Orlando. I mean, uh,

756
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: that was the title for them to win. Yeah, I mean,

757
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: let's just be honest. Then last year they looked like

758
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: they might they might do it, like like fully healthy,

759
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: they could have beaten the sun. Um Kauai is playing

760
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: as good as ever played bad luck and this year

761
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: he's not back. So it's not because of stupidity or

762
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: because of um, you know, any sort of like purposeful situation.

763
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: But they haven't done it. But I will say, you know,

764
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: both Kauai and Paul George extended long term. Their owner

765
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely filthy rich. I don't even think people understand

766
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: how Richie is. He's the second guy after Elon Musk

767
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: right where he ranks kinds on where Microsoft stock is today.

768
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: But all you need to know two things about about

769
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: Steve Balmer the billionaire owners. I've talked to billionaire owners

770
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, like, I was talking to one owner

771
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: the day after the Clippers did the trade for Norm

772
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: Powell and Robert Covington where they added like oodles of

773
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: money to their books, and he was like, people just

774
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: think all billionaires are the same, you know. He's like, uh,

775
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: you know this guy was talking who had several billion

776
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it would be like saying, somebody

777
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: who earns twenty five thousand dollars a year operates the

778
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: same as someone who owns who makes nine dollars a year.

779
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: They're both thousand aires, right, but they live pretty differently.

780
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: And that's what it's like to have Steve Walmer. He

781
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: has He's in a class of billionaires, but he operates

782
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: on a on a level that is so much higher

783
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: than even his peers, and that gives them so much

784
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: margin for air. And so that's why I think he

785
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: would bet on them more long term, because he's just

786
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: gonna keep spending and he's got and he's bought a

787
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: great front office. Like Michael Winger, who's Lawrence Frank's number two,

788
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Like he could have gotten the general manager job in Minnesota,

789
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: and so he would left to go run a team.

790
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: Wininger is one of the smartest guys in the league.

791
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: And Balmer was like, how about I just pay you

792
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: like a crazy gigantic amount of money to stay as

793
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: the number two? And Winger was like, okay, do we do?

794
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: It is salary public, it's not public, but it's millions

795
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and millions. I mean, I think he's the GM, like

796
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, Lawrence is the president and um, you know, like, um,

797
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: he has Jerry West as his advisor, you know, like

798
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: they may take Jerry West advice twice a year or less.

799
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: And it's like, Jerry, you're gonna be with me, and

800
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: here's a gigantic amount of money to do it. Steve

801
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: Balmber makes somewhere in the neighborhood of eight hundred fifty

802
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: million dollars a year just on Microsoft stock dividends. I'm

803
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna say that again. He makes eight hundred fifty million

804
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: a year on his stock dividends before the Clippers sell

805
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: one ticket, Before what other investments? He has come in

806
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: eight hundred some five million dollars a year in one

807
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: of his stockholdings dividends. So you think about you know,

808
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: other owners, like, yeah, they're rich, but they can't have

809
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: a three hundred million dollar payroll like he's basically got

810
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: including tax. All right, uh Wolf Brian winn Worth, good

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00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: stuff as usual. Are you writing a book these days?

812
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Do you want to plug that or do you want

813
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: to just do your plug your podcast? You I know

814
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: you wrote a great piece on the Memphis owner Para.

815
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. Um, anything you want to plug there, Brian? Yeah,

816
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: So just just this is a good example. Okay, this

817
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: just brought this up to my point. Robert Peat is

818
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: the third richest owner in the NBA. I wrote a

819
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: story about him. He owns the Grizzlies. His salary on

820
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: stock dividends. Okay, third richest owner, more money than Joe

821
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: sigh More money than Mark Cuban, more money than all

822
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: of these guys except for Dan Gilbert. Okay, Dan Gilbert

823
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago got a check from his

824
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: company for one point eight billion dollars. Did you hear

825
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I just said he got a check for one point

826
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. Robert Perry is the third richest owners.

827
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy filthy rich. He's worth sixteen

828
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: billion dollars. The Grizzlies are going to be able to

829
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: pay all of their guys in the future. He earns

830
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: a ton of money. He you know, what he makes

831
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: on his stock dividend, it's like basically his salary. His

832
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: salary he makes a hundred thirty five million, makes him

833
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: one of the most highest paid people in the entire world.

834
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Balmber makes eight hundred fifty Okay, so that's what I'm saying.

835
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Like people are like, oh, yeah, yeah, these guys are

836
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: all rich. Well, they're all rich. But when you have

837
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: to make a trade where it's gonna cost you forty

838
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: million dollars in luxury attacks, you know, if you're making

839
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: if you're worth two billion and your annual salary is

840
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Speaker 1: you know, thirty five million, Like that's amazing, but like,

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Speaker 1: like cheez forty million dollars for a seventh man, uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And then you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy over here makes eight fifty million, forty million whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. So um, I'm sorry to go

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Speaker 1: on the ramp, but I just don't think people understand, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna ask me whether I'm gonna bet on

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, are the Clippers long term? Bet on the

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Speaker 1: Clippers because but I mean, you know, the Lakers have

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Speaker 1: the more you know, the more you know, more recent title.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers have you know, since Bumber bought

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Speaker 1: the team, the Lakers have one title. Clippers have none.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm certainly I'm certainly not done on

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Speaker 1: the unbelieving in Kauai and Paul George. Yeah. No, they'll

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Speaker 1: have another shot next year and fail once again. All Right.

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Speaker 1: Brian went Horst, ESPN, author, podcaster, all around good guy,

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Speaker 1: Heartland America. Brian, thanks for taking the time. Thanks Jason,

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Speaker 1: I have a good day.