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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie de Cherico. I'm Daniel Henderson, and

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Speaker 2: we're just.

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Speaker 1: Two film dudes with a real film toude Am I right?

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Speaker 1: What's a film tude?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I fucking love it, Okay, And

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Speaker 2: I think a film tude is it involves a lot

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Speaker 2: of burping, It involves a lot of contemplation, It involves

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Speaker 2: a lot of ignoring your family. Yeah, a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot of hunkering down and just just being weird.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And let me can I just can I

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Speaker 1: just vet for a mo please?

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Speaker 2: Of course, especially if it's about your week, because I

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Speaker 2: was gonna ask you.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, speaking of family, it's just said family, and it

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Speaker 1: just triggered something within me that I.

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Speaker 2: Just have to talk to you about.

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Speaker 1: And we frequently come to the pod discussing the ridiculousness

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Speaker 1: of our families. Kay, And I got another wonderful, fucking

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Speaker 1: doozy of a story about my mom. Not that she's

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Speaker 1: like a legend or anything, but I'm just saying like

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Speaker 1: she's reached this point of now her quirks are at

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Speaker 1: like an all time high, like just really present in

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Speaker 1: a way that just was like wow, like she's really

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Speaker 1: like double down on her quirks.

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Speaker 2: Soul, and she is a legend to me. Let's not

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Speaker 2: get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, well, I appreciate that. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: she she's you know, my mom. I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out here listening don't know my mom.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that, Like, trust me when I

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Speaker 1: tell you that her quirks are insane right now. So

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Speaker 1: she is. She just recently had a milestone birthday, okay.

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Speaker 1: And my mom loves like lives her passion. It's like

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Speaker 1: the fire in her belly. She loves to cancel just

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Speaker 1: like her favorite thing to do. She like loves to

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Speaker 1: fuck up some plans, like that's like her favorite shit.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought I thought you were talking like cancel culture.

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Speaker 2: Like she loves to go on Twitter and be like

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Speaker 2: it's time for Harvey Weinstein to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's She's just out here on Twitter canceling people

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Speaker 1: like yo can barely knows how to use the internet.

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Speaker 2: Casleing plans is even better. That speaks right to my heart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she as long as she's still getting her news

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Speaker 1: from Pinterest, then she won't be on Twitter. She can

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Speaker 1: only do one one website.

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Speaker 2: At a time.

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Speaker 1: But so she just loves to cancel plans. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that she's been like this, but then now

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Speaker 1: it's just like again, like now it's just become really present.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like my sister and I are like, all right,

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Speaker 1: we got to do something for a mom for her

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Speaker 1: milestone birthday. We did a real easy proposal. We said,

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Speaker 1: what if we threw you a party at your home,

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Speaker 1: invited some of your closest friends, which who are all

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Speaker 1: Filipina women. They're all Filipinas, so it'll just be like

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Speaker 1: her and like five other women who have Louisveton handbags

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Speaker 1: and short hair or whatever. So she fucking like was like,

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Speaker 1: oh that sounds pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to like draw a lot of a table,

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Speaker 1: like you know how it is. She's like, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't want anybody to know how old I am. Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so so the sign the giant yard signs are out,

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Speaker 1: got it, but how about this. We will we will

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Speaker 1: get it catered, we will clean, we will hire people

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Speaker 1: to clean, like whatever you want, like, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Go for you.

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Speaker 2: She gave birth to some heroes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all she has to do is walk out of

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Speaker 1: her bedroom. It was just so easy. She was down.

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Speaker 1: So then I started getting on the phone and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what or her favorite restaurants? Maybe we can get somebody

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Speaker 1: So I don't think this is such a good idea,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, damn, really, like damn really, I was

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Speaker 1: already like starting to make the phone calls blah blah

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Speaker 2: So she poo pooed that idea.

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Speaker 1: Then my sister was like, Okay, we know this is

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Speaker 1: our mom. Let us let us just book a trip,

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Speaker 1: like book a trip for the three of us girls.

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Speaker 2: Trip nice.

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Speaker 1: We just pick her up and we don't tell her

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Speaker 1: what it is. We're just be like, yes, we're just

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Speaker 2: That was gonna be my suggestions, Like you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to just pick her up figuratively and literally literally. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And my sister, oh my god, my sister booked this

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Speaker 1: like resort, or she thought about booking this resort. I

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Speaker 1: don't maybe she actually booked it. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what stage of planning this this one was at,

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Speaker 1: but it was basically this like spa resort, lovely place

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Speaker 1: in Florida that is owned by Gloria Stephan, oh, the

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Speaker 2: Oh, you don't have to tell me who Glorious Stephan is.

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Speaker 1: I know I don't, but I'm like just some of

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Speaker 1: our younger listeners. I was like, maybe you don't know

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Speaker 1: who Glorious Stephan is. We talked about her in the

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Speaker 1: three minute of Baby episode.

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Speaker 2: Come on, shake your body, baby, do that kannga, get

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Speaker 2: on your feet. Yes, I mean the list is endless,

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Speaker 2: the horrible car bus wreck that I find the light miraculous.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And so you know, I was like, certainly this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds chill as hell. Right.

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Speaker 1: We're spending a lot of money on her, which is

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Speaker 1: like a good thing, like that's what she like, enjoys that,

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Speaker 1: And it's not a cheap place. It's pretty expensive. And

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Speaker 1: we were like, okay, well, book like spa things whatever.

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Speaker 1: So somehow the plan got back to her. Oh, and

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Speaker 1: I think I know who it is our father, duh uh.

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Speaker 1: And then she called me and said that she was like,

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Speaker 1: she said, you should cancel the reservation because I don't

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Speaker 1: like Gloria's Stefano And I'm like, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's not as if she's gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: She's not gonna like, she's not rubbing your feet, she's

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Speaker 1: not gonna do the massage, nor will she just be

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Speaker 1: like you know, we're not going to walk in and

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Speaker 1: see her and she'd be like, welcome, here's your room.

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Speaker 1: This is I built this room for you or whatever.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, what has she done in the past,

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Speaker 1: like thirty years to make you mad to where he

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Speaker 1: would never stand hel her hotel? It doesn't make any.

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Speaker 2: Sense Gloria's Stefan and Drew Barrymore have done something or

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Speaker 2: this is the issue that you reach a certain age

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Speaker 2: and you just pick a vendetta at random.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it has to be something. I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, is it like an islander war? I

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Speaker 2: Did she run over your dog? Did she?

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Speaker 1: So we had to cancel the glorious stuff on hotel

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Speaker 1: because my mom doesn't like Unbeknownst to both of us,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't like Gloria's stuff on. So then the new

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Speaker 1: plan that that they came up with after many, many

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Speaker 1: wanted to go to a casino and I want My

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Speaker 1: dad and her literally just got back from a casino.

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Speaker 1: They went to Vegas a few weeks ago, where my

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Speaker 2: She's like, you know what the true gamble is doubling

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Speaker 2: down on going back to a casino. Holy hell, I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: So my sister and I basically booked our own room

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Speaker 1: We're going absolutely. So I booked it. I booked my

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: We sat at the pool the entire time because we

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Speaker 1: were like, we don't have money to gamble, why would

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Speaker 1: was literally like gambling from like six am to like

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Speaker 1: we just went on a vacation by ourselves for our

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Speaker 1: mother's milestone birthday. She's technically in the building. We have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happy birthday. Put it over the loudspeaker. Happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: This is this year ago. Would you like to talk

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Speaker 2: to your daughters who brought you here?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And then they staid an extra night so we

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Speaker 1: left the I'm like, okay, listen. Ah. It's like maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fuck with y'all anymore, like I've

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Speaker 1: done it, like I've been on this earth for X

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Speaker 1: amount of years and oh yeah, I'm trying to get

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Speaker 2: Parties fully fully. The subtext of that is I don't

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Speaker 2: have to do this anymore. I can go on vacation

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Speaker 2: on my own, and you can go on your vacation

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Speaker 2: on your own. Also, I don't even want to talk

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Speaker 1: I love how she finally agreed to go to a

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Speaker 1: I started thinking, damn, it's that gonna be me. Am,

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Speaker 1: I just gonna fucking like be like, I do what

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Speaker 2: Hate to break it to you, it's already you because

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Speaker 2: for the past couple of years, I'm like, what you

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Speaker 2: going on a hike. So you already there. Well listen.

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Speaker 1: To be completely honest with you, the only reason why

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Speaker 1: is like, I'm not going to the woods without oh

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Speaker 2: No, you were already there. You're like, I'm going we

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Speaker 2: won't even drop a pin. I'm going to be in

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Speaker 2: this state and if you don't hear from me in

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Speaker 2: a week, then holler. And that is the equivalent of

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Speaker 2: your mom and a casino. She's like, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be in this casino. Yeah, if you don't see me

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Speaker 2: in a certain number of days, then you can call

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Speaker 2: the police. But otherwise just assume that I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I am my mother's daughter. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. If Hereditary taught me anything, it

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Speaker 1: is that I am I am related to her and

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Speaker 1: we will share traits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that was my mom's birthday in.

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Speaker 2: A nutshell, but I absolutely love it. She's always a

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Speaker 2: straight g and she's not playing And I feel like

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Speaker 2: next year it's Hereditary themed birthday and it's a surprise party.

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Speaker 2: She goes out for an afternoon and comes home and

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Speaker 2: just have people there. She can't escape it, she can't

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Speaker 2: So what's your surprise birthday party? Ah, like, listen, you

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Speaker 1: When did it turn? Has it all always been this way?

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Speaker 2: You know? I am so down for this plan, And

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Speaker 2: He's on the list.

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone else you can recall that she hates

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Speaker 2: Know, listen, Drew Barrymore is a delight. My Grandma's a demon.

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Speaker 2: We just can't get to the pod. She's just a demon.

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Speaker 1: She's like removing the knives from her pin head doll

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Speaker 2: If I got her true oh, if I got her

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Speaker 2: Boy? We got it this week. And I just love

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Speaker 1: I have to say I have not had this much

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Speaker 1: it is like all killer, no.

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Speaker 2: Filler, absolutely, I think since like Dante's Peak, Joever's of

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Speaker 1: In last year.

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Speaker 2: Well, what is our theme this week? Our theme this

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Speaker 2: week is it's okay to do both. But we didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, I gotta, I gotta stop you right there.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 1: I have read the book of which your film is

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Speaker 1: Oh hell no. I only saw my movie for the

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Speaker 2: Not surprising because your movie came out when anything after

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Speaker 1: No, but I will explain perhaps why I hadn't watched

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Speaker 1: right now, your film is a staple of my life,

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Speaker 2: At least countless times. Yeah, And it's one of those

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But you never read those books.

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Speaker 2: Right, Absolutely not. I think I try. I got one

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Speaker 2: of them from from the library from this from my author,

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00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: but I don't think I even cracked it because it

437
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: was so much more fun to talk about it on

438
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: the bus with people. It was just more fun to

439
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: like hear people talking about these weird books.

440
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm normally very much like a too long, didn't

441
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 1: read type when it comes to books that you know

442
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: that I have seen the movie adaptation for or whatever.

443
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: But this book, I think your film was was like

444
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: that was a huge book for me in middle school,

445
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: and like I was like, well, I certainly have to

446
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: get into this book, and it scandalized the fuck out

447
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: of me. Like I mean, everybody is going to come

448
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: in and say the same thing because it is a

449
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: true classic. It's like a classic shock piece of literature

450
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: from like middle school or high school where everybody had

451
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: the same reaction of like, what the fuck is going

452
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: on in this book? And then all the subsequent like

453
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: sequels are even more fucked up. The world is so

454
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: fucked up with this entire universe of like what your

455
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: film lives in is so crazy. Oh, I actually can't wait.

456
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna get into it because we need to

457
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: talk about the VC Andrews cinematic universe. Yeah, and I'm

458
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: just gonna let you know that my film for our

459
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: theme of it's okay to do both, but we didn't read.

460
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: The book was released in nineteen eighty seven. It was

461
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: directed by Jeffrey Bloom. The screenplay is by Jeffrey Bloom.

462
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: It's based on the novel Flowers in the Attic by

463
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: VC Andrews, and my movie is Flowers in the Attic.

464
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Speaker 3: They have come to seek refuge. Secrets are kept where

465
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: the future is haunted by the past.

466
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: No one can see this face, but I'm making that

467
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: like Matthew McConaughey from Days to Confused face, like yeah, alright, alright,

468
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: I cannot wait.

469
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: It's also got to like a little bit of Matthew

470
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: McConaughey and Wolf of Wall Street, like you're about to

471
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: start banging on your chat.

472
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I love this shit, Oh my.

473
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: God, this movie. Okay, So now, did you read the

474
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: book first and then watch the movie or did you

475
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: come to this world through the movie because this movie

476
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: came out when we were like children.

477
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was gonna say, I think I saw

478
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: the movie before I read the book.

479
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: Yep, makes sense, makes sense. I am going to start

480
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: us off because VC Andrews is an unexpected queen of

481
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: pop cul of youth pop culture in terms of scandalization.

482
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: And I don't know anything about her. I didn't know

483
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: anything about her. I will say that I'm well aware

484
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: of her work. The covers of her novels are works

485
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: of art amongst themselves, and almost all of her books

486
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: are about families in very complicated and strength situations. But

487
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: her life seemed pretty dope. Like she was born in Virginia,

488
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: and she was the only daughter and youngest child of

489
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: her parents. And you know, she had a couple of

490
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: older brothers, and you know, she attended good schools. She

491
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: did fall in a stairway at school and ps, this

492
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: is all coming from Wikipedia. And she had severe back

493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: injuries that like gave her arthritis and were like really

494
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: kind of life ruining for a while, and that she

495
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: had to use crutches and wheelchairs for most of her

496
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: life as a result. Wow, and yeah, she just she

497
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: started writing, you know, kind of being you know, having

498
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: always been a little bit more bedridden. She started drawing

499
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: and doing like correspondence courses, and she was into art,

500
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: and then she started writing, and she The rumor is

501
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: that she finished the novel Flowers in the Attic in

502
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: two weeks. She wrote it in nineteen seventy five. It

503
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: was published in nineteen and someone along the way, I

504
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a rejection letter or her

505
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: actual editor, someone suggested she spice up the story. And

506
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: let me tell you that motherfucker took that cue and

507
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: ran with it for the rest of her life. With

508
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: everything she ever wrote, but she does. She writes about

509
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: tons of families. She likes to do, like these collections

510
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: about families, like this book's about the Castile family, and

511
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: this book's about the Cutler family, and this book's about

512
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: the Doll and Ganger family. So she's definitely likes to

513
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: keep it tight on her family biz. But this particular

514
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: film was just life enhancing from jump. I mean, this

515
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: movie has everything. The cast is incredible before she went

516
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: ahead and popped off. It starred Christy Swanson. We've got

517
00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: Victoria Tennant, We've got Louise Fletcher. Yes, I mean, it

518
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: is just such a good cast. And the story I

519
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: think sticks pretty closely to the book, based on conversations

520
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: I heard on the back of the bus. But this

521
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: was one of those books where like people were passing

522
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: around the tattered copy. One person's parent bought it for

523
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: them and didn't know what the fuck they were buying.

524
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: They were just like excited their kid was reading. And

525
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: then that book made the rounds for seventy five years. Yeah,

526
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: and this is something I have said said to my

527
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: ex husband a lot, or you know, maybe once a

528
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: lot once who knows, But we used to laugh about

529
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: the phenomenon of like middle school boys finding porn in

530
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: the woods. B. C. Andrews is Porn in the Woods

531
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: for teenage girls?

532
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: One hundred percent it was. I can't tell you. There

533
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: was so much that I learned about sex and other

534
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: things through Flowers in the Attic and Pedals on the Wind,

535
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: which is the book that comes after. I mean, not

536
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: to get filthy, but the term come had not ever

537
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: been uttered around me in my life. And then I

538
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: read it in Pedals in the Wind and was like, oh,

539
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: now I know what that is.

540
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: I'll learn it somewhere.

541
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, and like you said before, I mean, it's

542
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: weird because I you it's almost like you could tell

543
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: that this movie. I mean, the movie stays true to

544
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: the book in that regard, like the setup is pretty

545
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: much the same, but the movie doesn't go nearly as

546
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: deep as it goes in the books, which if it did,

547
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: it would have to be like an NC seventeen movie

548
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: or something, you know what I mean. So it's like

549
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a PG thirteen film or whatever, you

550
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: would have to take out all that stuff.

551
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: So oh, and the movie goes hard. So it's surprising

552
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: to me that the book goes even harder. But again,

553
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: I know it does because of the way people talked

554
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: about it and were scandalized by it. I still haven't

555
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: read it, and I won't sailed that shit has sailed,

556
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: sail sailed. I've never seen Repoman and I will never

557
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: read V. C. Andrews. But it is it is just

558
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: an absolute crown jewel in the in terms of the

559
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: pop cultural influence it has had on my life. And

560
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: the movie is enough. I think if you want to

561
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: go deeper, great, go ahead and get those books. For me,

562
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: the movie was enough because the movie was off the wall.

563
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is what I will say to your

564
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: exact point. So in this rare occasion, I actually did

565
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: read your the book that your film is based off of. However,

566
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a person that like hates this movie because

567
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't as dirty as the book. I actually think

568
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: that the movie is like great in and of itself,

569
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: like the idea that it is like a kind of

570
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: sanitized version of the book. It makes it its own

571
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: thing and it's kind of amazing. It kind of reminds

572
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: me of like when we talked about The Stepfather. It

573
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of like a murderous Lifetime film

574
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: and this week it kind of has that feel in

575
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: the pacing, and you know, it's very like Lifetime eighties film.

576
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that it didn't go in that direction

577
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: in a way because if it had, then again it

578
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: would be like a totally different experience, you know.

579
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: And you are absolutely spot on to mention Lifetime because

580
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: they have adapted fifteen of VC Andrews's books into Lifetime movies.

581
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: Dude, I am that is new information for me. Like

582
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: when I was like, oh yo, I got to go back,

583
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: like my my friend Matthew Ownbe who I work with

584
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: at TCM, and he was like, you got to get

585
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: on this Lifetime Movie Club app. It's like their app

586
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: for you know, all of the Lifetime movies that have

587
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: come out in the past, like whatever twenty thirty years.

588
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: And when I saw that they have like forty seven

589
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: sequels and prequels to like Flowers in the Attic, like

590
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: excuse me, wait, like I have I had no idea

591
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: how this was happening.

592
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that could be the rest of your year.

593
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: We could just end the pod and be like we're

594
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: on vacation, Millie's watching all ninety five versions of whatever

595
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: VC Andrews adaptation is on the Lifetime app.

596
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: But then, you know what, though, there was a part

597
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: of me that's like I don't know, like like I

598
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: saw something for like a prequel like kind of like

599
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, do I really want to see like

600
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: whatever the jar Jar Banks version of this, you know,

601
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: is on the VC Andrews universe where we're like Anakin,

602
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: skywalkering the grandmother or whatever. I don't under like. I

603
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go that far into

604
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: the mythology where I'm like, you know, like imagining grown

605
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: ups as kids or whatever. So I don't know. I

606
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna go down the road. But

607
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: I was just surprised that there was a road.

608
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh, there is a road. It is paved, it has ramps.

609
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: It's its own little Richard scary, bustling city. But I'm

610
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: a one and done. I'm a flowers in the attic

611
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: and I'm out and I love it. And this movie

612
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: I tried my best to do a one sentence synopsis.

613
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: There's so much going on, but this movie, I think

614
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: my one tens I think it's about this. My one

615
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: sentence synopsis is after their dad suddenly dies, four extremely

616
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: Aryan children are forced to live with a grandmother they've

617
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: never met.

618
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: And how arian they are, could.

619
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: Not get whiter. These children are whole white, he let

620
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: me tell you. And they all have. They're one of

621
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: those families if they if this book came out today,

622
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: this would be the family that takes the picture on

623
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: the beach, and the Khakis and the white shirts.

624
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

625
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: So the mom is Karenne and her children are Kathy, Christopher,

626
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Corey and Carrie. And Corey and Carry are twins, a

627
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: boy and a girl. Kathy is kind of our narrator,

628
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: and Christopher is he's a teenage boy. He wants to

629
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: become a doctor, but very quickly morphs into the peppers

630
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: farm dude. It's like almost immediately he's like suspenders check, collarless,

631
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: shirt check.

632
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: And there's a reason I was so confused always by

633
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: the clothes in this film, because they I was like, okay,

634
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: is this in modern times? It seems to be in

635
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: modern times, meaning it seems to be eighty seven for

636
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. Yet they're all wearing like weird

637
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: like merchant Ivory to esque clothes with like the Kathy's

638
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: dresses headlines are like like mid thigh yeah, And I'm like,

639
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: what in the fuck is going on here?

640
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: And a lot of billowing, just a lot of billowing,

641
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: and you're like.

642
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Straw hats seersucker. I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

643
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: The hell is happening here? And let me, let me,

644
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: let's just get into this family a little bit. So

645
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: this family, to me has boundary issues from Jump. So

646
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: we open this film. Dad is out here bedside giving Kathy,

647
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: his teenage daughter, a ballerina music box and a diamond

648
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: ring like they're about to get engaged. He is like,

649
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: let me sit on your bed and give you this

650
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: ring and this ballerina music box because you're my favorite.

651
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm already creeped out. Yeah, not to mention the fact

652
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: that Corey has the kind of tight doll perm curls

653
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: and he looks like a haunted doll come to life.

654
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: So they're creeping me out. But don't worry. Dad dies

655
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: almost instantly. Dad's only in one frame. Then he dies

656
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: on his birthday, and all hell breaks loose. He dies

657
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: on his birthday. You can count on me style. Yeah,

658
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: whoever knew we would draw that correlation. But the cops

659
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: show up and they're like, yo, he's dead, and Mom

660
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: is like sokrinn is instantly destitute, like there was no plan,

661
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: no will, no money in the floorboards. Instantly destitute. Yeah,

662
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: and here's her grand plan. They hop on a bus

663
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: to go to her parents' house and she tells them

664
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: when all the kids are like, we're going where to

665
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: meet who they've never met? Their grandparents before, and she

666
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: tells them. The reason is that she very casually is like,

667
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: oh it because I was disinherited. Snoopig deal. I was

668
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: just disinherited. And they're like why. She's like, I don't

669
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: worry about it. Just pay attention to my ultimate plan

670
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: of trying to get back in my dying father's good graces.

671
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: That is her plan, Like I'm gonna win over this

672
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: old man who's on Debt's door and clearly has nothing

673
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: better to do. He's not flipping through the memory book

674
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: of his own life or spending any time trying to

675
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: fucking have his own come to Jesus moments before he

676
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: fucking croaks. That's her whole plan is I'm going to

677
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: make him love me again, and that's it.

678
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: I'man, yeah, this again has has always been a big

679
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: question mark that I just completely ignored. She couldn't have

680
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: gotten a job, like she couldn't have done the whole

681
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: like Christina Applegate from Don't Tell Mom the Babysitters Dead

682
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: thing where she pretends to be in a fashion guru,

683
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, why why do you have to literally

684
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: do this giant scheme with these like people in your

685
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: family that have disinherited you. There's obviously something to that.

686
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: It just would be easier if you just like pretended

687
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: to be a successful business woman.

688
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, just a lot to be, like, yes, I've made

689
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: up business cards and I've fibbed a resume or better yet,

690
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: try to go down to Waterburger. Yeah, go to I

691
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: don't know, a fucking hot dog on a stick. They

692
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: got Benny's. Try something and she's like no, instead, elaborate

693
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: plan to bring all four of my children on this

694
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: fucking baton death march to my fucking parents' house who

695
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: have disinherited me. And that part is hilarious because they

696
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: get off the bus and carry the little girls like

697
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to walk in the dark. I don't

698
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: want to walk in the nighttime. And I'm like, oh,

699
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: not only are you walking in the nighttime, you were

700
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: walking all night. Because they show up to the house

701
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: at six o'clock in the morning.

702
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they gonna walk through like four miles of

703
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like you know, British gardens to get to the fucking house.

704
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, they hate her ass, They hate her ass.

705
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: Hate her ass. It is a huge mansion. It's one

706
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: of those mansions that has like the rolling hills in

707
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: front of it, yes, where it's like, don't even think

708
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: about coming in here unless you want to walk uphill

709
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: or getting a buggy, and we will see every step

710
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: of the way because there's just this expanse of hills

711
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: in front of our house. And as soon as they

712
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: start walking into the house, there's this grounds keeper that's

713
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: kind of watching them from the window of this like

714
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: stone turret and his face is just like not this

715
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: shit again, like he's been there since Karenn was a kid,

716
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh god, she's fucking back, Like his

717
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: face says it all. And then we meet Grandma, and

718
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: let me tell you about Grandma. Grandma is played by

719
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Louise Fletcher, absolute Queen of mystery and misery. Yes, one

720
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was probably the crowning achievement.

721
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: But she is a fantastic actress and she fucking hates

722
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: these kids on site. On site. Let me tell you,

723
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: if Grandma shows up with a throat brooch and a

724
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Revlon red claw clutching a bible and she's Louise Fletcher,

725
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: you are in danger.

726
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Yes, imagine like if Piper Laurie from Carrie was like

727
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: just stern, like a stern Victorian school teacher type.

728
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: Oh, just blazing eyes and like a tight bun. And

729
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: she has been running the ship of this house tightly

730
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: and does not appreciate that her daughter has come crawling back.

731
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: She fucking hates these kids. And you can also tell

732
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: she fucking hates these kids because she lives in a mansion.

733
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: Like from the windows on the outside, when you're approaching there,

734
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, there's easily ninety five rooms in this house.

735
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: She loads everyone into one room with two beds and

736
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: boarded up windows and just lays down the law and

737
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: the laws basically sit down, shut up, stay here, you're

738
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: not allowed in the mansion.

739
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I had to think that the only

740
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: time they ever used this room was when like people

741
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: were dying of Spanish influenza and they had to be

742
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: like quarantined. Like there's no use for a room like this.

743
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: It's like just put them kids in a typhoid room,

744
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: like we we don't want to fuck with them. We

745
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: don't use this room ever unless you're sick and you

746
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: have a transmittable you know, disease, Like just put them in.

747
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: There, the makeshift hospital room. We don't care, we don't

748
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: use it anymore. Oh my god, this room as bleak

749
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 2: as a fuck. And then she also does this thing

750
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: where she's just like, I fucking hate you. Don't look

751
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: at me, don't even speak to me. Oh. Ps, did

752
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: your mother actually tell you why she was disinherited? I will.

753
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: It's because she eloped with her own uncle, and you

754
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: are the product of incest. Now that part I knew

755
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: from the bus, but was riveted, riveted when I heard

756
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: that shit as a kid, like, wait, what she married

757
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: her uncle? Their dad was her uncle? Yep, And I

758
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: cannot do the family tree to figure out what that

759
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: makes them besides his children, his children and his second cousins.

760
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

761
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: Ooh, but that shit landed like a ton of bricks.

762
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: And then Mom fucked off. And you'll wait, Mom's not

763
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: staying in the room with them, No, Mom has to

764
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: go down the hall so she can strip down in

765
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: front of her dying, bedridden father and let her mother

766
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: whip her. But don't worry, she does come back so

767
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: her kids can clean her wounds. And Grandma's be has

768
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: like her back looks like it was torn open by

769
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: a wolverine and she's like, I don't know. I think

770
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna work. I think my plan's working.

771
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: I mean that is some cold shit. Or I'm like,

772
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: they won't even let you stay in the house for

773
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes. You need a whipping like the minute you

774
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: walk in, just to even be in the house.

775
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, just to even step foot across this threshold. We

776
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: got to let you know who's boss.

777
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah wow mom.

778
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: Mom's like, oh yeah, my back. Don't worry. I think

779
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: my plan's working. And then she tells them about the

780
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: secret staircase to the attic, and she basically wants them

781
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: to consider it their sanctuary. So this is one of

782
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: my favorite scenes because as they're on their way up,

783
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: they like, just crack the door knob to the attic.

784
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Grandma comes out of nowhere and she's like, Kis. She's like,

785
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: you were given permission to go to the attic by me,

786
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: don't you forget it? And this attic is filled to

787
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: the brim with pigeon shit and colonialism. Yes, it's like

788
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: it's like the kind of statues you would bring back

789
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: on a ship when you used to call parts of

790
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: India Bombay.

791
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: We are calling this episode pigeon shit and Colonialism. Sorry

792
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: about it.

793
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, They're like, oh, we got this in Constantinople, what

794
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: like places that don't even exist anymore.

795
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like all their racist trophies are absolutely could

796
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: fill a museum.

797
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: And that's why Christopher starts dressing like the peppered farm dude,

798
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: because they're just basically pulling clothes from the boxes in

799
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: this Pigeon Shit and colonial is a attic and they

800
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: start cleaning it up, and in my head, I mean again,

801
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: the soundtrack to this film is very like, you know,

802
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: the composer keeps it very classic. But in my head,

803
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: they start cleaning this attic and I'm hearing mc hammers

804
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: turn this mother out because they're building like fucking rope

805
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: swings and turning cages into chairs and shit.

806
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christopher builds Kathy like a ballet studio.

807
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just like with a quickness. And you know,

808
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: like Christopher, who was apparently like never done anything in

809
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: his life, knows how to build a bar. They set

810
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: this shit up even like the little haunted doll is

811
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: helping out this little chucky ass kid. And it's a

812
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: good thing they have the attic because mom just straight

813
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: up stops visiting one day, like all they get at

814
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: a certain point is from this point out is like,

815
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: here's a cart full of cookies. We're gonna wheel into

816
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: this room once a day with some milk and orange

817
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: juice and goodbye.

818
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that to me, I think when I first saw it,

819
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I was like wow, like that really like hit me

820
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: where I was like, this woman ain't coming back, and

821
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: these kids are like, yo, we don't know if she's dead.

822
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: We don't know if she got whipped to death, if

823
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: she got served in like taxi army to be put

824
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: over the fucking grand formal dining room, Like we don't know.

825
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: They've got her like feathered winged hair, and she's like

826
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: mounted her heads mounted on a f Mom's just chilling

827
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: and they like strip her backs, get off and just

828
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: put it on another plaque next to her.

829
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: Our human trophies are in this house that we've kept.

830
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: We've abused people for so long in this house we'll

831
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: never leave it.

832
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: It is absolutely the kind of house where you're like, oh,

833
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: they absolutely hunt human beings in this in this in

834
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: the winter, like there's this they blow that horn and

835
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: they're like, dude, do do and then human beings just scatter.

836
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Yes, there's like a fucking Charles Lawton type that comes

837
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: out with this like really thin Mustache's like, let the

838
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: games begin. Ah.

839
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: And it's kind of a sad part of the movie

840
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: because the kids are legit worried. They're like, mom could

841
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: be dead. We don't know what's going on with her.

842
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: But only only Corey and carry are asking the real questions.

843
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: They're like, when are we getting out of here? Why

844
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: can't we play outside? Why does Corey still look like

845
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: a haunted ventriloquiz doll? Like they are just asking the

846
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: tough questions and ps. The boundary issues are completely continuing

847
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: with Kathy and Christopher because she insists on taking long

848
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: baths and he just sits and hovers over her and

849
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: talks while she's taking a bath.

850
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: Oh she fucking pulls out a washcloth, is like get

851
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: my back, and I'm like, ugh, no, never, never gonna happen,

852
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: like absolutely, And I feel like that in a weird way.

853
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: And I know this isn't about the book, because this

854
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: episode is about it's okay to not have read it, right.

855
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that might have been like the only

856
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: concession was being like, well, let's communicate that this is

857
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: a real fucking problematic incestuous relationship between her brother's sister

858
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: by having her like soap her back.

859
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 2: Oh and they sleep in the same bed. Yeah, they're

860
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: supposed to sleep, like the room has been gender neutralized,

861
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: Like they're supposed to sleep boys in one bed, girls

862
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 2: in another bed. And they sleep in the same bed.

863
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: And one day Grandma comes in with the cookie cart

864
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, you're all in the same bed,

865
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: you insist, motherfuckers, and she breaks the ballerina and Kathy

866
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: overreacts hilariously. But that's all they need to start planning

867
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: their escape. They're like, all right, we got to clearly

868
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: have to get out of here. She's gonna murder us.

869
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: She probably already murdered her mom. First plan awful. They

870
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: go up to the roof and they start repelling down

871
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: the roof. But here comes these dogs from one hundred

872
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: yards away, and like rain and lightning starts, and the

873
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: caretaker comes out with a gun, like he knows what

874
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: side his bread is buttered on, and if he finds

875
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: his kids, like these kids are here doing white water

876
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 2: summer instead of just like trying to follow the rules,

877
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: much like their mom, who like did not go to

878
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: hot dog on a stick. They didn't even try to

879
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: follow the rules a little bit uh uh to get by.

880
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: They're like, we hate it here, goodbye. So that plan fails.

881
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: They go back inside, windows are boarded up double time,

882
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: and mom comes back finally, but guess what. She's pissed

883
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: that they tried to escape. Mom is basically back on

884
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: her family bullshit. Yeah, She's like, wait a month. My

885
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: dad is absolutely dying and I think he loves me again.

886
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: She's like the Amy Polar character and Bean Girls where

887
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: she's like, if you have to because escape from the house,

888
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: just wait a month. I'd rather you just wait. I

889
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: think he's totally gonna die this time.

890
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Well, and Kathy is like she is like, okay, bitch,

891
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: you have I've seen us zero times in the past

892
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: x amount of months and then now you come back

893
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: in here yelling at us for trying to basically fine

894
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: your ass. And the mother is like, how dare you?

895
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Why are you being so mean to me? Like blah

896
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I was like, I'm on Kathy's

897
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: side on this one. Where have you been.

898
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: Totally also like Corey's out here turning mice into pets

899
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: and just like Inhaling the hands of virus, come check

900
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: on your damn kids.

901
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: Exactly.

902
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: Fuck it's awful. There is a scene that's hilarious where

903
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: he goes missing and I'm like, they panic, and I'm like,

904
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: how far could he fucking go? You live in two rooms?

905
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so they're on the swing that you made

906
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: from the rafters, or he's in a rat bed in

907
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: a basket that you made.

908
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: He's either curled up in a fireplace, or he's in

909
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: the basket of a fucking hot air balloon that you

910
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: flew from. I don't know, bombay, It's all I can

911
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: think of, because all those statues are very like that,

912
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: very much. So, oh my god. Well we do get

913
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: another Grammar freak out. She comes in and cuts off

914
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: Kathy's hair, and this wig is fire. The wig that

915
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: replaces the cut hair is absolutely fire. And she also

916
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: is like, oh, no more cookies. I'm just gonna stop

917
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: feeding you all together.

918
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's reached like a code red man down affair

919
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: right now with these kids.

920
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: These kids look like ghoules. They are withdrawn, they are

921
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: absolute ghules. And where's mom and all this. Don't worry.

922
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: Mom is dating. Meanwhile, her kids are upstairs blood letting.

923
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Christopher cuts his arm and lets Corey drink from it,

924
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: and Corey's like, yeah, it's fine. I'll be a vampire.

925
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit, Like, how much worse could

926
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: it get? I will drink your blood to survive.

927
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: Why not I already look like one? Why not go full?

928
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: Why don't just just complete the look? And they break out,

929
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: the kids do. They break out, and they discover that

930
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: Mom's living like Liberaci. She's fucking engaged. She's sleeping in

931
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: a bed with wings.

932
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: She's playing the piano for Grandpa, so she is literally

933
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: a LIBERACEI.

934
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: She is liberaciated up she is living her best life,

935
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: and Kathy goes ape.

936
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: Shit.

937
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: They're walking around this house. They meet Grandpa, who they're

938
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: never supposed to know. They're never supposed to meet him,

939
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: and he wraps his dracula claws around Kathy's heads so

940
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 2: tight you think he's about to chew her fucking face off,

941
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: but thankfully he is dying, so he's like totally delirious. Yeah,

942
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: And I am gonna spoil some of the movie from

943
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: here on out because I just have to. Corey dies.

944
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: Corey just flat out dies. He's like the blood was

945
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: not enough, the hand to byers was not enough. He dies,

946
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: and then his mouse dies, and Christopher figures out from

947
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: the mouse eating the cookie that they're being poisoned by

948
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: arsenic because he assesses the symptoms and he's like, Pepperich

949
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: Farm remembers that you fucking put arsenic in this bitch, and.

950
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: So like the family kept the arsenic in this like

951
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: beautiful silver salt shaker. I'm like, God, damn, these people

952
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: are fucking evil.

953
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: They kept this fucking arsenic absolutely like a teren like

954
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: this beautiful silver terurene or like it was absurd, Like

955
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: it was like the kind of thing you'd keep human

956
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: ashes in, Like it was just so ornate. And it's like,

957
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: if you have arsenic and you're planning on using it,

958
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: you should absolutely be more subtle. It should be in

959
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: a cardboard box on the floor in the back of

960
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: a cabinet.

961
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: It should be like the shit from nine to five

962
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: that just is like rat poison. Yeah, just big giant

963
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: cartoon box. But it's second, like, let's make it beautiful

964
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: and decorative.

965
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: Let's give it feet, like you could set this thing

966
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: on a fucking ta like smag. Sure it has some

967
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: balance to it and some heft, it is absurd, and

968
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: we find out and again, if you don't want to spoilers,

969
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: fast forward a little bit, Corey's dead again, Like they

970
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: don't get to go to a funeral anything. They're just

971
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: stuck in this room. They break out, they figure out

972
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: they're being poisoned, and we find out that they're actually

973
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: not being poisoned by Grandma, which is the first thought.

974
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: They're being poisoned by their mom. And they bust out,

975
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: and they crash their mom's wedding because and they find

976
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: Grandpa's will, and they figure out that they were never

977
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: supposed to be known because if Grandpa knew anything about them,

978
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: their mom was going to be disinherited. So she had

979
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: this plan the whole goddamn time. I'm going to get

980
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: in his good graces and kill you. So I guess

981
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: some money and a new husband in a new life, goodbye.

982
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: And that's not how it works, because they crash the

983
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: fucking wedding. Ooh, and then Kathy kind of accidentally on purpose,

984
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: hangs her mom with her own wedding veil. It's dope.

985
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: As hell. It's an incredible scene.

986
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: So I will just admit to you right now. I

987
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: know Christy Swanson from like two maybe three things.

988
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: M h.

989
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: I know her from Deadly Friend, which is like a

990
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: horror movie where she's incredible. I know her from the

991
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: one part she was in Ferris Bueler's Day Off, and

992
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: then I know we're in this movie, so I don't

993
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: even know her as Buffy the Vampire Slayer. To me,

994
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: this is her quintessential moment, like an a quintessential movie,

995
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: a quintessential moment when she confronts the mom with the

996
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: cookie in her hand. Eat the cookie, mother.

997
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, it truly is. And look, as of

998
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: the time of this recording, she has popped off on

999
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: a different dimension. Yes, but this she gave us this

1000
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: before she left. She gave us this, and eat the cookie.

1001
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push you off this boundary and you're gonna

1002
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: hang yourself to death on a fucking pergola. When was

1003
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: the last time a pergola was using a death scene?

1004
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: This film is everything, hah. And then they just mosey away.

1005
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: They don't even try to like get money or do.

1006
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: They're like, we are just done. With this life and

1007
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: this family and goodbye. It's incredible. And then I guess

1008
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: the story carries on and pedals in the wind, but

1009
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: I'll never know. I just know that I feel like

1010
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: the book was way more incestuous, and I feel like

1011
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: maybe the murders in the book or the abuse in

1012
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: the book was probably more intense. Again based on what

1013
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: I heard on the buzz, but this movie is unintentionally hilarious.

1014
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: It is an absolute cannon. It's a canonical film, absolutely,

1015
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: and it just it gives us so much while it

1016
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 2: asks so little.

1017
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: It is way more entertaining that I think the thought

1018
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: it was gonna be when they put the movie out.

1019
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 2: I think they genuinely thought they were making a merchant

1020
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: ivory film, like this is gonna be some shits well,

1021
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: and like.

1022
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I had read a bunch about just how the director

1023
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: slash writer, like there was all this drama with like rewriting,

1024
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like he maybe walked off the film

1025
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: at one point, and I feel like it's that thing

1026
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: where they were like, well, we tried to adapt this

1027
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: like fucked up book, and now we have to make

1028
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: this like teeny bopper version of it, and it just

1029
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: sucks and let's just throw up her hands and call

1030
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: it a fucking day. And it'll never you know, never

1031
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: see a shelf at a video store. It's just gonna

1032
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: be buried. And this is my embarrassment. No, it did

1033
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: the absolute opposite. I feel like everybody was like, this

1034
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time, like it is a

1035
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: staple of rocketed. Yes, and like to this day to this,

1036
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: like anytime I watch it, I just fucking scream laughing.

1037
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: I feel I still feel the panic and the panic

1038
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: moments where I'm like, oh damn, yeah, they they are

1039
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: in that attic and they ain't getting out.

1040
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's disturbing. It's so disturbing. Oh yeah,

1041
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: the the Andrews does not look like the kind of

1042
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: motherfucker who would write some kids Trapped in the attic book. Yeah,

1043
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: but she absolutely is. And I love it. And and

1044
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: Caren the mom I can't get enough of. And again

1045
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: we should have we could have seen the turn coming,

1046
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: but you never expect it. I still never expect her

1047
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: to be villainous. But she comes from put these kids

1048
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: in the attic stock, So what do we expect from her?

1049
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's got that hidden valley ranch voice.

1050
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, where she's just.

1051
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Like and the and her turn, her evil turn is

1052
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: so good. It's so so good.

1053
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: I love it.

1054
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I can't have loved this pic more. I also love

1055
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: that you refuse to read the book like I'm like, good, like,

1056
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: just don't read it. Just keep this in your memory

1057
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: as the source material, and that's it. You don't need

1058
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: to read the books.

1059
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: The ship is sailed. There are very many books that

1060
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: I read that are turned into movies. I will read

1061
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: a book after it's been a movie. There are lots

1062
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: of things. I'll make the concession for not this one.

1063
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well listen, I mean you're talking to somebody who

1064
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: missed the boat on Titanic unintended and was just like,

1065
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel a desire to like really like catch up,

1066
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm just like, Okay, I

1067
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: didn't see that. That's fine. I just I'll just live

1068
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: without knowing. And I feel like that could be you too.

1069
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: For this. It's fine.

1070
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm solid, and I'm solid for not reading yours either.

1071
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am solid not reading mine either. Although wow,

1072
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: it's just so fascinating to have only watched this movie

1073
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: in the past year. I'll just say that. So my

1074
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: movie for the theme It's okay to do both. We

1075
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Speaker 1: didn't read the book is a movie from nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: the Great Year of nineteen ninety four. The screenplay and

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Speaker 1: the original source material was written by Anne Rice. It

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Speaker 1: was directed by Neil Jordan, and it's called Interview with

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Speaker 1: the Vampire.

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Speaker 2: Life has no meaning anyone doesn't. His name is Lestott.

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Speaker 2: What if I could give it back to you, pluck

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Speaker 2: out the pain and give you another life? What you

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Speaker 2: could never imagine?

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Speaker 1: I am not even going to attempt a history of

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Speaker 1: Anne Rice.

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Speaker 2: I just can't like that, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't because y'all, I will admit y'all know

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Speaker 1: more about her than me, and anything that I could

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Speaker 1: research would pale in comparison to y'all's lived experience of

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Speaker 1: loving Anne Rice. So my my thoughts are that you'll

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Speaker 1: go find out about her if you don't know who

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Speaker 1: Anne Rice is. But she has got some stands like

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean to the point, she's one of

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Speaker 2: those that I'm like, I can't even pretend to get

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Speaker 2: involved because of her fans, Like I won't get involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot even attempt at trying to try to

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Speaker 1: explain Anne Rice to people who have loved her for

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Speaker 1: so long. So having said that, like I want to also,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna reiterate this. I have a lack

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Speaker 1: of knowledge about the book, Like I never read the book,

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Speaker 1: and I know that there are you know, subsequent books,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know anything about those. All I know

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Speaker 1: is the movie that I saw a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Did I ask, do you remember people in school reading

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Speaker 2: this book? Was that a thing when you.

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Speaker 1: Were one hundred percent? Because here's the thing this was.

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Speaker 1: This came out my freshman or sophomore year of high school,

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Speaker 1: and it was the biggest deal.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of discussion about Tom Cruise playing

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Speaker 1: with stat which I will get into later, and every

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Speaker 1: goth in my high school was there like Opening Night, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: but I had like no stakes, Like I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just didn't know enough about it and I and for

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Speaker 1: some reason, I was like, yeah, I don't know this.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really in the Vampires at the time. I

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Speaker 1: just wasn't. It didn't appeal to me.

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Speaker 2: Now, the people in my school who were reading this

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Speaker 2: book and obsessed with obsess with this series were the

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Speaker 2: kind of people who like hung out in Sarah's cemeteries

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Speaker 2: and listened to Typo negative and like pierced their own

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Speaker 2: next with sold with sharpened pencils to pretend they were bitten,

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Speaker 2: like they were deep. They were not just like I'm

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Speaker 2: wearing black because I'm sad. They were into this shit

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Speaker 2: and it scared the fuck out of me. I don't

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Speaker 2: fuck with blood. I just don't fuck with blood.

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Speaker 1: Well, and like, listen, you know, as per my high

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Speaker 1: school experience, I was at the lunch table with the goths.

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Speaker 1: I had goth friends. Don't be total, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but it just was something that I did not share

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Speaker 1: with them. Like I was just like I was kind

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Speaker 1: of like more into punk rock and was like not really.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was like, I know that damned does

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Speaker 1: that count? But I didn't really go into that Anna

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Speaker 1: Rice world.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 1: And actually, if you want to get down to brass tacks,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought it. The title of the film was

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Speaker 1: Interview with a Vampire, and I will have you know,

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Speaker 1: if you try to search for it on the Paramount

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Speaker 1: plus app, it doesn't come up. If you put interview

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Speaker 1: with a.

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Speaker 2: Vampire that's passive aggressive.

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Speaker 1: I was like, come on, we're living with us enough.

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Speaker 1: We are living in the year or Lord twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and you can't make that metadata.

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Speaker 2: I could swap go right now and type bl bl

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Speaker 2: bloh into a search bar and it would be like,

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Speaker 2: were you looking for the United States Constitution? Like, yes,

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Speaker 2: I was, Yes, I was.

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Speaker 1: You can get from A to the Yeah, I was, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, paramouth plus really? Oh well, okay, so I

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Speaker 1: will say this so I've read that. Basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: this book was written by Ann Rice in the seventies

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Speaker 1: and the rights to make the movie were purchased in

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Speaker 1: the seventies, but they actually didn't make the movie until

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Speaker 1: the nineties, right, And they hired Neil Jordan to direct

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Speaker 1: the film because of The Crying Game. That's, you know,

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Speaker 1: the film that he had made prior to this, and

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Speaker 1: it was a big sensation and so they wanted to

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Speaker 1: get that heat for this film. And apparently he did

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Speaker 1: have a hand in writing the screenplay because I think

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Speaker 1: that he wanted to, you know, put his little mark

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Speaker 1: on it. But he actually didn't get credit for it

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Speaker 1: at all, like Anne Rice got Soul screenwriting credit. But

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Speaker 1: apparently Neil Jordan was very involved in the screenplay. But

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Speaker 1: so there's a couple of things that bright before it

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Speaker 1: was filmed that were going on, namely that Anne Rice

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Speaker 1: was dead set against Tom Cruise playing.

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Speaker 2: Oh stat Oh yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And every goth that I knew was dead set

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Speaker 1: against Tom Cruise playing with stat Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, consider where Tom Cruise was in the moment. Tom

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Speaker 2: Cruise was like top Gun in Far and Away in.

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Speaker 1: Yes Cocktail, and like it's like, imagine like the biggest

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Speaker 1: jock in your high school, like playing the most like notorious,

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Speaker 1: uh dandy ish sexiest vampire you can imagine it. Just

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Speaker 1: it was like didn't didn't make any fucking sense. But

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Speaker 1: eventually when she actually saw the film, she was like, actually.

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Speaker 2: He was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: And then when this like big campaign to like apologize

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Speaker 1: to him, like she fucking like went all out to

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Speaker 1: be like, I'm sorry, I fucking gave you all that shade.

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Speaker 1: Here's a two page spread and variety or whatever me

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01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: apologizing to you. Here is a sheet cake from the

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Speaker 1: local grocery store, like whatever. Like she was like, really, like,

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Speaker 1: I made a mistake. I should have believed that you

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Speaker 1: would do a good job, and I'm sorry, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she anybody needs to apologize to

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise that much about anything, but at least she

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Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, was the bigger person, right.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So part of like what I think, Okay, you have

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Speaker 1: to understand I always saw this movie a year ago, okay.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as we talk about in this podcast,

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to really divorce your sort of modern

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Speaker 1: ideas about movies that happened from like twenty thirty years

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Speaker 1: ago or whatever. And I know that that simple fact

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Speaker 1: is what is going to inform my thoughts about this film.

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Speaker 1: And I apologize because honestly, this is one of the

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Speaker 1: gayest movies I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: And it is queer Canon. It is queer Cannon.

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Speaker 1: It is how come I never saw this movie in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. If I had known it was going

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Speaker 1: to be this, I want to see it in ninety four.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't know that at all.

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Speaker 2: None of us did until we saw it and then.

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Speaker 1: We were like wait, what Yeah, And like, the more

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: that I read about it, the more I started to

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Speaker 1: understand that, oh, it was supposed to have been this gay,

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Speaker 1: which I think is fucking great. And you think about

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four. I mean, I'm gonna get to this

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Speaker 1: point in a second. But like in the year that

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Speaker 1: the film was being produced, Anne Rice actually thought that

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Speaker 1: her story was too gay for Hollywood. Like she was like,

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Speaker 1: there's no way this movie's gonna get made. I can't

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Speaker 1: make a movie about like a vampire couple who adopted daughter,

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Speaker 1: you know, like there's just no way. And at a

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Speaker 1: certain point, Anne Rice actually temporarily rewrote the character that

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Speaker 1: was played by Brad Pitt to be a woman, oh,

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Speaker 1: because she actually didn't think the movie would get made

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Speaker 1: if it was a man. And weirdly enough, Cher was

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Speaker 1: at one point up for that role of like yeah,

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Speaker 1: and even had written a song for the movie at

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Speaker 1: one point. But then I think at the last minute

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Speaker 1: ann Rice changed it back to that character being a

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Speaker 1: man and it went to Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 2: Be great if the song Share wrote was believe and

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Speaker 2: she was released it twenty years later.

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Speaker 1: Well actually I think that she did release it later.

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Speaker 1: What but it just was from this like weird moment

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Speaker 1: where she almost was in interview with the vampire whoa.

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Speaker 1: And then another interesting fact that I read was that

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Speaker 1: so there's a as the role of the reporter in

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Speaker 1: the film. It was initially supposed to be a River Phoenix,

1237
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Speaker 1: but he died before filming, and so they got Christian Slater,

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Speaker 1: yeah boy, to play the role instead, And because he's

1239
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 1: your boy, he ended up basically donating his entire salary

1240
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Speaker 1: to River Phoenix's favorite charities.

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Speaker 2: So, ah, that's a stand up move. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: That's sweet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured you would enjoy that. But I here

1244
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: is my my really big question, and I have no

1245
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: idea what I actually think. But like, so, this movie

1246
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: has so much gay subtext it's kind of hard to comprehend, okay,

1247
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Speaker 1: And my first instinct was after I saw it, was

1248
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Speaker 1: how the hell did they get like fucking Cishead, Tom

1249
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: Cruise and Sishat Brad Pitt to be in this movie?

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Speaker 1: And part of me wonders, were they just like too

1251
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: dumb to know that they were in this queer masterpiece,

1252
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: which I think is almost kind of hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think it's the exact opposite. I think

1254
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: they were very smart about how subversive they're being with

1255
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: these roles, and they wrapped it all up. They took

1256
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: those ruffled cuffs, but they wrapped it all up in

1257
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Speaker 2: a bow of we get to beat each other's asses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't know. I don't

1259
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: know Tom Cruise, I don't know Brad Pitt. I'm like,

1260
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they were totally like, yeah, this

1261
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: is great. This is the role I was born to play.

1262
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: I want to play like a Tennessee Williams adjacent vampire

1263
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: who basically adopts a porcelain doll with another male vampire.

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Speaker 2: Also, I'm considering too that the time that it was

1265
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: made was it felt it feels like more to me

1266
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 2: of a time when the biggest actors wanted the biggest roles,

1267
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Speaker 2: whether they were right for them or not, or whether

1268
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Speaker 2: it was like you know, a personal passion of theirs. Yeah,

1269
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 2: they like, if this is gonna be the biggest movie,

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Speaker 2: I want to be in it because I'm the biggest star. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's just because.

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Speaker 2: I just.

1273
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Speaker 1: It's like almost like I want Tom Cruise to have

1274
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: been tricked into playing this character because of top Gun

1275
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: and like all these like extremely like hetero dudes like

1276
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: these like you know, he was playing like really like

1277
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: masculine like bro guys for so long that I'm like,

1278
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: there's no way he would have pivoted. There's no way

1279
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: he would have done that. And maybe I'm wrong because

1280
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: that would mean that would make me have to like him,

1281
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: yeah in a certain way, and I'm like, do I

1282
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: really want to do that? But whatever, Like it's just

1283
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: in my mind. I kind of think it's funnier if

1284
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: they were tricked into playing it like, oh, here's your

1285
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, here's a script and they're like, don't know

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: what's going on until they watched the movie at the

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Speaker 1: premiere and they're like, oh, we were in a.

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: Relationship, Like they film it out of order, so.

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Again, that's just my own

1290
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: because I literally saw it a year ago and I

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: don't have, you know, whatever, the past like twenty years

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01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: to have like formed more of a of an informed

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01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: opinion about it. Right, So I will get into the

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: beats of the movie. Here they are Christian Slater at

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: the beginning of the film, he's this kind of a

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: reporter guy and he's interviewing Brad Pitt in like modern

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: day Okay, in a hotel room. Brad Pitt just says

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01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: he's a vampire and like Christians was like, yeah, right,

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01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: and then it goes into like Brad Pitt's like, well

1300
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: sit down for a tail. Here we go. I lived

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01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: in the seventeen hundreds, and you know Brad Pitt. His

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01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: character is named Louis or Louie. I might probably call

1303
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: him Louis, right, because that's what Yeah, that's what Kirsten

1304
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: Dunt says, so I'll say that. So Louie is a

1305
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: plantation owner in New Orleans and he is depressed because

1306
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: his wife and his newborn baby just died, and he

1307
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: is like, I wish I was in the ground with them.

1308
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: I Am gonna go out and pick fights and hope

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: somebody will just fucking kill me.

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: Literally, there's so many easier ways to do it, Louie,

1311
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: come on, Yes.

1312
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: He is just like, let me get into a bar

1313
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: fight and hopefully somebody will stab me. But instead of

1314
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: that happening, he meets a vampire name Lastat, and Leastat

1315
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: is obviously played by Tom Cruise, and he is fucking hilarious.

1316
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: In this movie. Absolutely, I have to admit it. I have.

1317
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: He is everything about him, the way he walks, the

1318
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: way he talks, his hair.

1319
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 2: Lastat is out here like shky green, like he is

1320
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 2: two inches away from actually shocking and driving.

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm like, I can't tell if he knows

1322
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Like in my mind, I'm like, does

1323
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: he know he's doing this or is this just does

1324
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: he think he's being this like great actor of the

1325
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: theater or is he does he aware of what he's doing?

1326
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very unclear to me. But again, I

1327
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: just saw this movie, Like, so here's the thing. Rod

1328
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: Pitt's like, Fuck, I'm down on my luck. I might

1329
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: as well just fucking hang out with this vampire. Let

1330
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: him turn me.

1331
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:09,959
Speaker 2: Into a vampire.

1332
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened, and then they just move

1333
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: in together.

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01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: One of my absolute favorite lines is when he turns

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01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: him and turning him is it's intense, Like it doesn't

1336
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 2: happen immediately the way it does in a lot of

1337
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: vampire films, but they also don't fuck it up the

1338
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: way they do in Lost Boys. If you want to

1339
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, go listen to that episode. Yes,

1340
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: he basically is like, all right, your body's gonna die

1341
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: and your soul is gonna die. And then he says

1342
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: one of my favorite lines in the film. He picks

1343
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt's head up and he goes, now, look with

1344
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 2: your vampire eye, and his vampire eyes are basically seeing

1345
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: statues blink like he is fucking tripping.

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01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: So so that has happened. Brad has turned into a

1347
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: vampire with his vampire eyes. I'm gonna say it again.

1348
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: They move in together, okay, and we just spoke about Liberaci.

1349
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: They basically live in this like Liberaci esque, beautiful, gorgeous

1350
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: house in New Orleans.

1351
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, red velvet as far as the eye can see.

1352
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: Brad, who is a new vampire, is like trying to

1353
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: figure out this bloodless thing. He's trying to keep it

1354
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: in check. He doesn't want to eat people basically. And

1355
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, there's a scene that cracks me up every time.

1356
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: Throughout their dinner table, they're just grand dining room table.

1357
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise picks up a rat, cracks open a rat

1358
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: for him, pours the rat blood into like a goblet.

1359
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very like this rat's for you, Bud.

1360
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, yo, they cracked open a rat and

1361
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: put it in, put the blood in a.

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: Cup and try and like shook it off so he

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01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 2: can get that last drop in there.

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's made so so Lestat's doing the thing

1365
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: where he's like, listen, you can say, oh you want that,

1366
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: You're just gonna survive on like rats and things, but

1367
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna want human blood, Like come on, it's

1368
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: just a matter of time. And that's exactly what happens

1369
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: until Tandaway Noon comes along.

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: Okay, and let me tell you this is weird for me.

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: I forgot my friend was in this movie. Yes, so

1372
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: I am. Tantaway's is a very good friend of mine,

1373
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: his dear friend, and she's made so many movies that

1374
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: occasionally I'll be watching something and I'm like.

1375
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she let me tell you right now. You

1376
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: came off on one of the Bonus episodes recently saying like, oh,

1377
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: I don't have friends that are famous, and I was like, oh,

1378
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: you only know her who is like truly been in

1379
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: some of the best movies ever to me, and I

1380
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: was like, really, you know her only? Oh my god, incredible.

1381
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: And I think it's because it's because of moments like

1382
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 2: this where I'm like, oh, I forget what her job is.

1383
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes you forget that she had to have her blood

1384
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: sucked by Brad Pitt in nineteen ninety four.

1385
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: And I think they were dating.

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I'll be like, yo.

1387
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: I need to be more curious. I've never asked her

1388
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: anything about it. I need to be way more curious

1389
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: with my friends. But I'm like, that was a long ago.

1390
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: She doesn't care.

1391
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: I absolutely love that you have her as a friend

1392
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: and you don't know anything about her career at all.

1393
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: But I know about her life. I know about friend stuff.

1394
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: I know about that stuff. But I like it. I

1395
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: don't know what you did at work today.

1396
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, but I also have a boring office

1397
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: draw and she gets to make out with Brad Pitt

1398
01:18:51,840 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: on camera, So that's difference. So here, it is maybe

1399
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things that happens right after this.

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: So Tandaway is a goner, and and Louis eats the

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01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: human blood and he is so fucking too strong that

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: he trashes and burns their house down.

1403
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, burning down the house is

1404
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: this motherfucker's calling card. He has never met a house

1405
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: that he will not burn to cinders.

1406
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: Lestat comes in after this has happened, and he's literally

1407
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: literally like great, just great, look what you did to

1408
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: our fucking house. Now we have to live in a

1409
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: gross cemetery. And it is so fucking funny to me

1410
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: that that is Lestat's response to, like, oh, just great,

1411
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: look what you did house down.

1412
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: It's fantastic, God this movie. He's like, you did all

1413
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: this because you just this is your response to killing

1414
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: someone for the first time.

1415
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: Like, really, Louie, this movie is so genius, like on

1416
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: so many levels, it is so fucking funny that I

1417
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: can't stand it. And this was one of the moments

1418
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: where I just was like, I can't believe it took

1419
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: me twenty years to watch this movie, so oh completely Lstat.

1420
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: After this happens, Lastat is just keeps pressing on Louie, like,

1421
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: let's eat people.

1422
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: Come up, Like you know what's gonna happen.

1423
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: You got so pumped that you burn our house down,

1424
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: and we gotta keep going. Louie is like, no, dude,

1425
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: I can't fucking eat people. And by the way, being

1426
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: a vampire, gotta be honest kind of sucks, Like it

1427
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of sucks. I don't want to live forever. I

1428
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: feel weird about eating people. I don't like rats either,

1429
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know what did I do I did.

1430
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: What was I so depressed that I started hanging out

1431
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: with you? I don't get it.

1432
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Major regrets, major immediate regrets.

1433
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: So you can imagine Louis sort of like questioning the relationship.

1434
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: So one night, Louis walking around town finds this little

1435
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: girl shivering and crying in the corner. Her mother has

1436
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: just dit of the fucking plague. Because remember we're in

1437
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: these we're in these old times, and both these movies

1438
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: were in these old times. Okay, so he's like, well,

1439
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: this little girl's down in her luck. I guess I'll

1440
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: just crack her open, have.

1441
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: A trip.

1442
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: His depression. He needs to not leave the house when

1443
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,839
Speaker 1: he's just depressed, because he makes really bad decisions, horrible choices. Okay,

1444
01:21:55,560 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 1: so guess what. Lstatue shows up and is like, well,

1445
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: you already did like half the job, So I guess

1446
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to turn her into a baby vampire

1447
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: so that you will stay with me.

1448
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 2: He had a kid to save the relationship. Tell me

1449
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: they were not in a relationship.

1450
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: And let me just tell you this, I think was

1451
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: maybe all our introduction to Kirsten duns The wonderful actress.

1452
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunce and my god, killed it, nailed it, like

1453
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: you wouldn't fucking believe. Like, basically she immediately turns into

1454
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 1: this like when she turns into the vampire, she just

1455
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: grows like porcelain doll baby hair with like these curly

1456
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: ringlets and shit. And this part of the movie is

1457
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: fucking unreal. She basically walks around now like the bad seed.

1458
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: She's like this fucking petulant baby vampire child killing everybody.

1459
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: Was like, no, can't figure it out, and Lestat is

1460
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: literally nagging her like naughty, naughty Claudia, naughty girl, why

1461
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: do you keep killing people? Come on, didn't you tell.

1462
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: Me about this? Not in the House is my favorite.

1463
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: It is wild, and I'm just like, I love how

1464
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: funny this movie is. It just this entire sequence where

1465
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: she becomes their daughter effectively is truly like a sitcom.

1466
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: I read in the Washington Post review of the movie.

1467
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: They called it Two Men and an Undead Baby, And

1468
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: it is truly that. It is like sitcom antics in

1469
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Crushed Velvet.

1470
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: It is so fucking good, beautiful, and she is fucking

1471
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: fantastic because she's petulant and stompy and weird, but you

1472
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: she's riveting like most most of the time, when kids

1473
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: act like that on screen, even if they're acting, it

1474
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: just gets under my skin. But she is absolutely hilarious.

1475
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: She has the gravitas of like a seventy year old actress.

1476
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not being too much of a child actor

1477
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: in that way. You're absolutely right. And so what ends

1478
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: up happening, I mean, like so much time passes because

1479
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: they're vampires, and it's like nobody knows what year it is,

1480
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: nobody knows what decade it is, right, So at some

1481
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: point she looks the same obviously, but she's like, actually

1482
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: thirty nine or something. And I guess maybe when vampires

1483
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: turn thirty nine they start becoming a little bit more

1484
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: rebellious and they start wanting to know why they made

1485
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: her a vampire, why her two dads made her a vampire.

1486
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: And so she starts like figuring all this shit out,

1487
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: and she starts seeing Lestat as the problem, and she

1488
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: talks to Louis and it is like, listen, let's leave

1489
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 1: the stat He's clearly you know, we're just his victims essentially,

1490
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: and Louie's like, good luck with that. So basically what

1491
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: she does is she brings in these like two little

1492
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: kid twins, and maybe that is a connection point between

1493
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: our two movies are like creepy twins.

1494
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 2: Another theme, another theme.

1495
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's like, look, let's tat, look at these

1496
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: two beautiful children. Won't their blood be delicious? Turns out

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Speaker 1: she fucking poisoned the kids with laudanum. Okay, and then

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Speaker 1: Lestat cracks them open and then gets poisoned.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you made me drink dead blood because there

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Speaker 2: are rules of this shit.

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01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are definitely rules of this shit. So anyway,

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: she poisons him and then his throat gets slit, and

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: then they Louis and Claudia put him in the fucking swamp.

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: And then there's a part where zombie le Stat comes

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01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: back briefly playing the fucking piano, but then eventually goes away.

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01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 2: Well, so you know what happens. You know what happens?

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01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: House on fire.

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01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is burning down the house again again because

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: he's like, we got to kill Lestat. I don't know

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: how many times we gotta do it, but let's burn

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: a house out. It seemed to work last time. So

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01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: that's happened. Then they decided to go to Europe because

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 1: they're just like well, let's go find some other vampires

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: to hang out with or whatever. So then it cuts

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Speaker 1: to them in Europe, they meet a vampire named Armand,

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Speaker 1: who was played by Antonio banderis.

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Speaker 2: That we should have gotten an Oscar.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, Actually, I gotta say this, out of

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01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 1: all three of these guys, these extremely famous male actors,

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01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: Antonio seemed to me, to me, to be the only

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: one that got it. Like, I was like, he knows

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01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 1: he's in a gay vampire movie, okay, and we love

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01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 1: him for that. The other two a little TVD I

1524
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm just saying like he seems like

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: the legit.

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01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: He like legit knows what he's doing, oh into it.

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: And Armand is like he's kind of the host of

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01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: this like Grand gin y'all type show where they they

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01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: are basically doing vampire things in front of audiences and

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01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: they're pretending that they're, you know, putting on a play

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: or a pageant, but they're actually eating dinner essentially in

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: front of these people. At a certain point in this film,

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01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: Armand tries to get Louie to move in with him,

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01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: and so of course you're like, wow, this has taken

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01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: a turn and then I won't spoil the rest of

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the film, but basically Armand's gang of vampires attempts to

1537
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: punish Louis and Claudia for for killing the.

1538
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: Stat Yeah, they're like, we again, we got rules. You

1539
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: can't just kill vampires if you are a vampire, right.

1540
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: And like I said, all hell breaks loose from this

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: point it And I won't give away the ending, but

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01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the best ending, like just the best, funniest ending. They

1543
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: would never in a weird way. I think they would

1544
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: never end a movie like that, Like in modern day

1545
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: they'd be like, no, that wouldn't work.

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01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: That's a little over the top, isn't it. They're like that,

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: people wouldn't go for that. Oh my god. I love

1548
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: the ending of this movie. Me too.

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01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, listen, I to me, this movie is

1550
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: like a gay Southern Gothic masterpiece.

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01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: I am absolutely obsessed.

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01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Like obsessed with I mean, it's just to me. I'm

1553
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: just I almost like want to punch myself in the

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: face for having resisted watching.

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01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: It because I'm just presented it in the right way.

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01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: If somebody presented it in the right way, you would

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01:28:59,000 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: have watched it.

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01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely believe that if somebody had just pulled

1559
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: me aside and said, this movie is this Actually it's

1560
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: not just sort of like a bunch of goth kids

1561
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: being mad about Tom Cruise. It's like this whole other level.

1562
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: Like and I just feel like in this era, to

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01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: like in ninety four, to have actors like Tom Cruise

1564
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: and Brad Pitt appear in movies with like, okay subtext,

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: that's huge.

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01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean he has, you know, it's still huge. And

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01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: I just I also just love the notion of a

1568
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: lazy vampire, like Louis has been alive for hundreds of years.

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01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: He hasn't learned how to fly. He doesn't know, he

1570
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: barely knows how to do that, like I'm gonna walk

1571
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: well fast up on you thing. Like he just is

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01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: uninterested in being a vampire. His depression followed him into

1573
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: vampire in Thiss And I just love it. I love

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01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: it depressed lazy vampire.

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01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, listen, Brad Pitt is not great

1576
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: in this movie. I gotta say, but who cares, like literally,

1577
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: who cares like he did his job?

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01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: It looks great, looks great.

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01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: I had read all these like kind of I don't

1580
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: know stories about the production, about how apparently Brad Pitt

1581
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: like hated filming this movie and he was actually depressed

1582
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: because I guess it was like raining all the time

1583
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: when they filmed it, and it just was like it

1584
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: was in a bad place. So maybe that like informed

1585
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: his role a little bit. But like, you know, it

1586
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: almost is like, well, ye, when you have Tom Cruise

1587
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: as Lestat and you have Kirsten Dunce as Claudia the

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01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Baby Vampire, you gotta just be bad, Like you just

1589
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: gotta be bad in this movie. And that's fine. Take

1590
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: one for the.

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01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 2: Team, absolutely, and Kirsten Dun's like the introduction of a lifetime. Yeah,

1592
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: of a lifetime. The photos that you've sent of the

1593
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: premiere out of Control, a nineteen ninety four premiere was

1594
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: a whole different animal.

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01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 1: Iwwhere, wow, oh my god. I mean, just go on

1596
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: a Google search or go to like the Getty Images

1597
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: website and just look up the pictures from the premiere

1598
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: of Interview with the Vampire. It's like Tom Cruise is

1599
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: never going to look that awesome ever again. Periods a periods. Yeah,

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01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I just I love this movie so much, gotta be honest,

1601
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: don't know if I'd really read the books because I

1602
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: just love the thing. I love what this movie is,

1603
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I want to boil that

1604
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 1: by reading the books. I know that sounds weird, but

1605
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: I just I just love this movie so much, and

1606
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: it's such a recent watch for me that I just

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01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed.

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01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 2: And I love that you watched it. Yeah, I love

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01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: that you just watched it and then watched it again

1610
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: and it's now Queer Cannon and I absolutely can't get

1611
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: over it. And I also feel like maybe one day

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01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 2: I'll read the books, but I kind of just don't

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01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: have the desire to because I don't. I don't I

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01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 2: need to be in a certain mood to want to

1615
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: get into a whole world like I need. It's not

1616
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 2: just one book, like you gotta read the next one.

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01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: You got to find out what happens. And sometimes I'm

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01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: in the mood a lot of the time, I'm not.

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01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. I mean, maybe this

1620
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: is too complex to answer at the end of our episode.

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01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: But you wrote a book about your life. If they

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01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: had made it, if they make a movie about your book,

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01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: would would you be disappointed if it was if people

1624
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: didn't read your book and just had watched the movie.

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01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: No, and I think that that is very interesting because

1626
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: I see them as two separate things. Like if you

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01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: read the book, the book is its own thing entirely,

1628
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: and a movie or a TV show that's adapted, I

1629
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 2: feel like, let it live its own life. Yeah, let's

1630
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: live its own life. Like right now, It's part of

1631
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: my job too. So I'm a showrunner for New York

1632
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Times best selling book called The Other Black Girl that

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01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: is being turned into a TV show for Hulu, And

1634
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: we have these discussions in the room all the time,

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01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, the Zakiyah Delilah Harris, who

1636
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: wrote the book is in the room, and it's just

1637
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: we have We've had many conversations about like we can

1638
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 2: just change it, we can just let it breathe, it

1639
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 2: can be its own different thing.

1640
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that because it does make That makes

1641
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: sense to me, because I think that's kind of like

1642
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: what the spirit of this episode is about. It's basically

1643
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,719
Speaker 1: being like these are kind of almost two different texts,

1644
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: Like there's the film, there's the book, And like people

1645
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I know people that get really upset obviously like for

1646
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: this for my movie, where people get upset that the

1647
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: movie is nothing like the book or nothing like what

1648
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: they thought the book was about. But if you can

1649
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: divorce your feelings sometimes it is a good reward. I

1650
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: think like your movie is a you know, huge testament to.

1651
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 2: That double the fun man. Yeah, I think it's healthy

1652
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: to divorce the two because you know, a book is

1653
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 2: something you can go back to again and again. It's

1654
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: not going to change. It's wonderful. But then you can

1655
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 2: see that book interpreted in several different ways across the decades,

1656
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 2: and they're going to be different every time. Yeah, and

1657
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 2: I think it's okay. I like letting them breathe and

1658
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: live their own lives.

1659
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. God, damn, this was such a fun episode.

1660
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for picking your film.

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01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Thank you for picking your film. I haven't seen it

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01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: in ages. I was rocked to.

1663
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: My core man. Probably. Yeah. I haven't seen a double

1664
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: feature this fun in so long. So well until next week, Danielle,

1665
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,799
Speaker 1: do you want to tell the folks about the movies

1666
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: for next week?

1667
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Oh? I sure do, because our movies next week are

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01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 2: seene Emo's Fire and Ladies and Gentlemen The Fabulous Scenes.

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01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, damn, Sam, that's.

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01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Gonna be good. It's gonna be real good. Well listen.

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01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:50,640
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Speaker 1: so check us out. Beautiful Well, Danielle as always such

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Speaker 1: a fucking pleasure to do this podcast. With you.

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01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 2: I love it. I would not change a thing. I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 1: I would not pepper arsnick on your cookies. I would

1695
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: not burn your house down.

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01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Every house, every house they left he burned. Well, you

1697
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 2: gotta get a new racket. You're gonna get caught, especially

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01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: because you won't do that fast walking thing or fly

1699
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 2: burn a house down, get on a boat. I'm Louie,

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01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: the laziest vampire. Crack open a rat. Here's to crack

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01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: open a rat. Eight every minute of it.

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Speaker 1: Until next time. Thanks for listening.

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