WEBVTT - Salvatore Giunta Didn’t Want to Be a Hero

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<v Speaker 1>The link is also in our show notes below. Pushkin,

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<v Speaker 1>the staff sergeant, sat at his desk at the United

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<v Speaker 1>States Army base in Vicenza, Italy. It was September of

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<v Speaker 1>twoenty ten. His name was Salvatore Genta, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a phone call. Just the thought of the

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<v Speaker 1>call made him queasy. He was pretty sure what the

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<v Speaker 1>news would be. There had been rumors about it for years,

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that he preferred not to think about. They were

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<v Speaker 1>too upsetting. But the day before he'd learned that the

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<v Speaker 1>call was definitely coming, so he asked his wife to

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<v Speaker 1>sit in the office with him. She watched his face

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<v Speaker 1>as he watched the phone. Sao was twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>old and had been a member of the Army in

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<v Speaker 1>the one hundred and seventy third Airborne Brigade. For seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>He had seen some of the worst and most relentless

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<v Speaker 1>fighting in all of Afghanistan. He had been in the

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<v Speaker 1>Corangall Valley. The soldiers called it the Valley of Death

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<v Speaker 1>for good reason. It had been a nightmare. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was a nightmare that Sal had been willing to take

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<v Speaker 1>part in, excited even unlike this call. He wasn't excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this at all. And then the phone rang. Sal

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<v Speaker 1>took his wife's hand. He answered the phone and a

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<v Speaker 1>voice said, please hold for the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm j R.

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<v Speaker 1>Martinez and this is Medal of Honor. Stories of Courage.

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<v Speaker 1>The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, awarded for gallantry and bravery and combat

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<v Speaker 1>at the risk of life, above and beyond the call

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<v Speaker 1>of duty. Each candidate must be approved all the way

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<v Speaker 1>up the chain of command, from the supervisory officer in

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<v Speaker 1>the field to the White House. This show is about

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<v Speaker 1>those heroes, what they did, what it meant, and what

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<v Speaker 1>their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>When Sal Junta finished that phone call with the President,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked up and saw it wasn't just his wife

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the room. There were maybe fifty people packed

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<v Speaker 1>into an office that only had space for five deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>They were there because Sal, their low key, unassuming friend,

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be the first living Medal of Honor

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<v Speaker 1>recipient in almost forty years. Sal's friends, his coworkers, his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>they were all so proud. But you know who wasn't proud.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal Junta Sald deployed to Afghanistan for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five. He was twenty, a super

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<v Speaker 1>gung ho dude who literally couldn't wait to get into action.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when they told us we had our orders

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Afghansian. I remember I was, it's excited

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<v Speaker 3>to go to war. This is what I came to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been trained for battle, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted, though if you asked him just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years earlier, he wasn't sure what he wanted. Back then,

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<v Speaker 1>he was working as a sandwich artist at the subway

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<v Speaker 1>shop near his family home in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to graduate high school and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a plan. And I heard a radio commercial come on,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said, come on down. See the recruiter, get

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<v Speaker 3>a free T shirt. I want a free T shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>Who doesn't want a free T shirt? I'm working at somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a free T shirt. Of course I want

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<v Speaker 3>a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the right radio ad at exactly the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal went to the recruiting center for the T shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>but he came out of it with a life plan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my chance. I can make a difference, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can do it everywhere, but not in Cedar Rappids, Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>And at that time I was ready to go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>The Army's gonna take me everywhere except for here. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just jump on this bandwagon and see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>He decided to join the one hundred and seventy third Airborne,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant he would potentially be jumping out of a

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<v Speaker 1>plane straight into combat and.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen years old. I don't know much, but the Army

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<v Speaker 3>said I could spit, I could swear, I could shoot guns,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'll pay him one hundred and fifty bucks extra

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<v Speaker 3>to jump out of planes. Patriotism slash one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty dollars to jump out of a plane A month.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>But once Sal got to Afghanistan. He realized that combat

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't quite what his eighteen year old self had pictured.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal and First Platoons spent most of their time at

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Operating Base. Below. It was in southern Afghanistan. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an isolated spot, nestled in the valley between the

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<v Speaker 1>soaring peaks of the Hindu Kush Mountains, surrounded by almond

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<v Speaker 1>and apricot orchard. But Below itself was like most of

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<v Speaker 1>the bases in Afghanistan, pretty bleak, a mud hut turned

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<v Speaker 1>into a makeshift fortress, guys sleeping eight to a room,

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<v Speaker 1>and constant attacks from the Taliban. Sal and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the soldiers got really close, really fast. That'll happen

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<v Speaker 1>when you're living in such tight quarters far from anyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>You only get thirty four other people to talk to,

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<v Speaker 3>So you see these people seven days a week. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no one else you can talk to or be with.

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<v Speaker 3>No psychiatrists. Gets as steep as we got on the

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<v Speaker 3>side of the mountain. We just because we had nothing

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<v Speaker 3>else to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, nothing to do but talk and joke and go

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<v Speaker 1>on patrols and get shot at, which meant watching your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>your brothers get hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't take long into my first deployment into Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 3>before I really your emotions in war are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>different than your emotions watching war on TV. And death

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<v Speaker 3>is real and the hardships are painful. It's not just

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<v Speaker 3>painful to watch. That's truly painful on you and your boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal was still all in even after he got shot

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<v Speaker 1>through the leg in a firefight, but slowly his gung

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<v Speaker 1>ho attitude was beginning to change. About three months into

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<v Speaker 1>his deployment, and Id took out a humpy, killing four

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers and maiming a fifth. They were all members of

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's company, Company B. They were men he knew. Sal

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<v Speaker 1>went to the bomb site to help clean up, and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the bodies was well traumatic for everyone. And just

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<v Speaker 1>a few days later, a different squad from bey Lowe

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<v Speaker 1>was out on patrol and one of those men, a lieutenant,

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<v Speaker 1>was shot and killed.

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<v Speaker 3>We lost one of our lieutenants. And now that's five

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<v Speaker 3>in like a span of a week. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>already having a tough time kind of stomach and what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to the first four and my team years sent

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<v Speaker 3>me down. He goes, this is it. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what war is. It's not going to get any better.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was when I truly felt that I was

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<v Speaker 3>in the army. I was an emotional, hurt, straught alone paying,

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<v Speaker 3>which I hadn't felt before. Three months into Afghanistan, I

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<v Speaker 3>was no longer excited. I had more of a zest

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<v Speaker 3>than ever to do my job. But it wasn't because

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited to do it. It was because this

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<v Speaker 3>is what we trained to do, and all the excitement

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<v Speaker 3>was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal made it through the rest of that deployment, fighting

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<v Speaker 1>and sustaining and doing his job, and after a year

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<v Speaker 1>he returned to the base in Italy. Finally he would

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<v Speaker 1>have a break from combat, and even better, he'd get

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<v Speaker 1>to see his girlfriend, Jennifer Mueller. They had met at

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<v Speaker 1>the very start of Sal's time in Italy before he

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<v Speaker 1>deployed to Afghanistan. Back then, she was a student from

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Iowa doing a semester abroad. Now Jen

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<v Speaker 1>had graduated and moved to an apartment near the base.

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<v Speaker 1>The two were happy, thinking about the future, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Sal got the news Company B was returning to Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's attention shifted from his future a future with Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>back to his buddies in first Platoon. That brotherhood of soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew he had to be his best for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and his best was going to have to be pretty great,

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<v Speaker 1>because soon enough the Company B was on their way

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<v Speaker 1>to the Corngau Valley. When sal arrived in the Corangaul

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<v Speaker 1>Valley in May of two thousand and seven, he knew

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<v Speaker 1>immediately that this deployment would be different.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like nothing that I had never seen in

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<v Speaker 3>Afghanistan before.

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<v Speaker 1>The valley itself looked lush and green, beautiful, even peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all so harsh terrain. Even the little bushes

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<v Speaker 3>were sharp, all the little animals bit or stung or

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<v Speaker 3>poisoned in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>The steep hillsides were covered in dense brush, which provided

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal hiding spots for insurgents, and they were well

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<v Speaker 1>armed and itching for a fight.

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<v Speaker 3>We were at the bottom of a valley with mountains

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<v Speaker 3>just cheer straight, straight up and down on every single side,

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<v Speaker 3>and every single place you're going to fight, you are

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<v Speaker 3>at the bottom and they are at the top, and

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<v Speaker 3>you are open and they are covered.

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<v Speaker 1>There was literally no safe place to be an American

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<v Speaker 1>in the Corngall Valley. The roughly thirty five men of

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's platoon lived at fire Base Vegas. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>mud hut about the size of a three car garage,

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<v Speaker 1>no running water, spotty electricity, and very little protection from

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<v Speaker 1>constant enemy fire. For a shower, a hot meal, or

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call home, the guys would have to go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to the main base corn Gall outpost.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a multi hour walk where they'd be shot

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<v Speaker 1>at all the way, so they didn't go that often,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant Sal couldn't talk to Jen very much.

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<v Speaker 2>She remembers it well, I remember the two months for

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<v Speaker 2>I heard from him, and then it was every month,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you get a phone call, it's fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>When a month or two goes by fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like a second. But at least Sal was there

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<v Speaker 1>with people he adored, the guys he thought of as family.

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<v Speaker 1>One was Josh Brennan, who'd been a football player back

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<v Speaker 1>in high school in Oregon. He was all endurance and toughness,

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<v Speaker 1>though he also had a way of making everyone around

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<v Speaker 1>him feel at ease. He was alpha team leader and

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<v Speaker 1>Sal was Bravo team leader.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been with Brennan for maybe four years, and four

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<v Speaker 3>years with roughly thirty five guys. So in the Army

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<v Speaker 3>everyone gets to be your buddy and you'll love him

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<v Speaker 3>like a brother, because that's how it's set up.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Eric Ga Yadado was their squad leader, smart and

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<v Speaker 1>cool headed, a perfectionist, and a brilliant fighter. Their medic

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<v Speaker 1>was Hugo Mendoza. At twenty nine, he was a decade

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<v Speaker 1>older than many of the guys at Vegas. He was

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<v Speaker 1>from Texas and had joined the Army to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of people as a first responder. Brennan, Gayadro, Sal and

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<v Speaker 1>Mendoza were really close, but still it was hard. The

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<v Speaker 1>men had to wear helmets and body armor all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd risk getting shot at, even going to the latrines.

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<v Speaker 1>They would hike out for daily patrols, and each one

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<v Speaker 1>was slow and hard up steep trails covered in loose shale.

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<v Speaker 1>One wrong step and you could fall to your death.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal felt his body start to fall apart from the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of sleep and the stress of non stop fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>We get shot at every single day, sometimes multiple times

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<v Speaker 3>a day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in late October of two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the men were told were going on a new kind

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<v Speaker 1>of combat mission. They called it Rock Avalanche. It was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the most ambitious operation the Corngall Valley

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<v Speaker 1>had seen, deploying four separate companies at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>some four hundred men along with their support. The goal

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<v Speaker 1>was to move directly into Taliban strongholds. They'd look for

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<v Speaker 1>weapons and try to shut down travel routes for the insurgents.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Avalanche would begin the night of October nineteenth. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, Sal heard his captain wish them luck,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew that meant they needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock Avalanche took us to where the bad guys were.

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<v Speaker 3>That was our job.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's company went to the southwestern part of the valley,

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<v Speaker 1>traveling by helicopter. Their destination was a Taliban stronghold through

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<v Speaker 1>which weapons and money flowed in and out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Corngall Valley. It was like striking at the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the snake.

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<v Speaker 3>We got in some contact for a couple times each day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe four or five gun fights, usually small

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<v Speaker 3>arms RPGs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on October twenty third, three men from Company

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<v Speaker 1>B were shot, one fatally. So in the very week

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the twenty fifth, Sal and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>first Platoon went to support Second Platoon, which was going

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<v Speaker 1>to a village near the shooting. In the four days

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<v Speaker 1>of the mission, the men had slept fewer than ten

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<v Speaker 1>hours total. First platoon marched for two or three hours

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<v Speaker 1>until they reached their assigned position around five a m.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a spot called Hancho Hill. They would stay

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<v Speaker 1>there while second platoon worked its way through the village

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get information about what had happened at the shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>Second latoon was going to go into the village, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we were going to be on one of the

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<v Speaker 3>side weeks over watching the village so if anything anyone

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<v Speaker 3>started coming from the outside to come and attack them

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<v Speaker 3>in the village, we already have the high ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's platoon, that's first platoon, stayed there all day, not

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<v Speaker 1>talking much, trying to keep vigilant, knowing that the insurgents

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<v Speaker 1>were close.

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<v Speaker 3>And we sat there twelve hours, fourteen hours, just watching

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<v Speaker 3>and waiting, and the whole time we're thinking, okay, somewhere here,

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<v Speaker 3>there should be somewhere down here.

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<v Speaker 1>What they didn't realize was that a group of at

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<v Speaker 1>least a dozen enemy fighters had crept up behind them

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<v Speaker 1>and were waiting patiently for First Platoon to start moving

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<v Speaker 1>back towards Corungall outpost. There was only one path they

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<v Speaker 1>could take.

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<v Speaker 3>The sun went down, the commander said we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>pull out. We'll go back. There was probably a two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half hour walk back to the Corngall outpost.

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<v Speaker 1>There were eighteen men from first Platoon walking in single file.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Brennan was out in front. He shouldn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>been there. His time in Afghanistan had been up a

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<v Speaker 1>month earlier, but his contract had been extended. That was

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<v Speaker 1>very common at this point in the war, so there

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<v Speaker 1>he was walking point as usual. It went Brennan, then

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<v Speaker 1>Specialist Frank eck Roede, then Sergeant Gay Gadolo, then sal.

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<v Speaker 3>Sun was down, but the moon was big, and that

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<v Speaker 3>moon really does make a just a huge amount of

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<v Speaker 3>difference in what you can and can't see.

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<v Speaker 1>They hadn't gone very far when out of nowhere all

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<v Speaker 1>hell broke loose.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen before or since anything like what what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It was basically I don't know the number of shots.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely everything, every single inch of the air in front

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<v Speaker 3>of us, behind us was filled with tracers.

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<v Speaker 1>They had walked into an ambush. The enemy had arranged

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in an L shaped barrier. One short line of

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers directly in front of first platoon, and a longer

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<v Speaker 1>line along their left flank. It's a classic tactic meant

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<v Speaker 1>to create the most carnage and the shortest amount of time.

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<v Speaker 3>You really can't protect yourself from an ambush like that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just hope you don't walk into it. But the

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<v Speaker 3>way the train dictated, there was only one way we

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<v Speaker 3>could go down.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened next was total chaos. More tracers than there

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<v Speaker 1>were stars in the sky, the sound of bullets coming

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<v Speaker 1>from extremely close range.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the first five seconds, so I think pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>everyone had been shot somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The Americans were standing in the open and the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>was behind the rocks and trees. Essentially there was no cover.

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<v Speaker 3>A few shrubs and bushes, but there's nothing that's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stop a bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal got shot in the rib cage. Fortunately the impact

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<v Speaker 1>was absorbed by his protective vest. Another bullet went through

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<v Speaker 1>the assault pack that was over his shoulder, shattering the

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<v Speaker 1>weapon there. They had been in regular contact with enemy

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<v Speaker 1>fighters almost daily over the past six months, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was different, way more intense. Thousands of bullets ripped the

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<v Speaker 1>air from both sides. Then Sal saw guy out of

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<v Speaker 1>the get hit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I looked towards my leader, sar uncl Ardo, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw his head twitch and it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>what was that twitch? It was like something just hit

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<v Speaker 3>his head twitch and he dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal's heart sank. He knew what that kind of head

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<v Speaker 1>twitch meant. He ran to Guyautlo through the bullets. When

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<v Speaker 1>he reached him, he saw immediately Guy Outada was alive.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullet had only grazed his skull. Guy Gadado scrambled

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<v Speaker 1>to his feet and he and Sal ran back and

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>jumped into a shallow ditch. They threw grenades, using the

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<v Speaker 1>explosions as covered to run forward, shooting at the enemy line.

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<v Speaker 1>Flashes of fire answered back from the trees. They threw

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<v Speaker 1>their grenades again, charging ahead, moving up towards ek Road

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and Brennan. Finally they got to Ekro. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>shot twice in the leg, but he kept returning fire

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<v Speaker 1>until his gun had jammed.

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<v Speaker 3>When we went up, we saw that Croad and Nechrow

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<v Speaker 3>was on the ground and he said he'd been shot,

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 3>and he said that Brenna said he was shot as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's somewhere up ahead. I can hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm running, sal knew Ekroed had Guyautao with him

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>dressing his wound. He would be safe. There was nobody

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<v Speaker 1>better than Gay.

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<v Speaker 3>Gottivo, and so I just kept on running, and I

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<v Speaker 3>thrown all my grenades. I only had three with me,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was no more grenades, and I was already

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<v Speaker 3>running forward.

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<v Speaker 1>It was up to him to find his friend Brennan.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew Brennan was in danger, but he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I ran up and I couldn't. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>find Brennan where he should have been. My just cut

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<v Speaker 3>to the left and I just started going closer to

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<v Speaker 3>the shooting. I cleared through some there was some low shrubs,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just running. I wasn't shooting. I was running,

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<v Speaker 3>and I came out this part hungs my dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly it got quieter, and that's when he saw two

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<v Speaker 1>people moving away away from him, carrying something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. I don't know how anyone else got up

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<v Speaker 3>here before me. I mean, this all happens like this,

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<v Speaker 3>and the moon's full and so you can see, you

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>can see very well, but I can't understand what is

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<v Speaker 3>going on in front of me. It's I got a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit closer, I realized what was going on. I

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<v Speaker 3>looked back, and it's just this side of a mountain

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<v Speaker 3>in Afghanistan, and it's almost This is a perfectly clear patch,

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<v Speaker 3>and the moon couldn't have been any more beautiful, and

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<v Speaker 3>life couldn't have been any scarier.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Sal understood he was looking at two enemy soldiers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that thing between them was a person tied by

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<v Speaker 1>his hands and feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon, He's smarter than me, stronger than me, he's faster

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<v Speaker 3>than me. He's a better shot than me, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>who's getting carried away.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal shot one of the insurgents and killed him. He

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<v Speaker 1>dropped on the spot. Then he hit the other one,

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<v Speaker 1>who limped away and disappeared down the cliff side. Sal

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<v Speaker 1>ran to Josh Brennan.

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<v Speaker 3>I grabbed Brennan, and I just turned around and ran

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<v Speaker 3>as fast as I could back the way I just

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<v Speaker 3>came from.

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<v Speaker 1>He dragged Brennan to cover, hearing the bullets continued to

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<v Speaker 1>pop and zing around him, and then once they were

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<v Speaker 1>in a safer spot, he was able to look closely

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<v Speaker 1>at his friend. He had multiple gunshot wounds the bottom

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>left side of his jaw, was gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to see what's wrong with Brennan, and he's moaning,

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<v Speaker 3>and he wasn't doing so good. But he was alive.

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<v Speaker 3>He was still talking and I think he was shot

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<v Speaker 3>probably about seven times, and it looked like maybe an

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<v Speaker 3>REPG burst up on the ground, shrapnel to his face

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 3>and took his a good portion of his jaw. The

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 3>just complaining that he had something in his mouth, but

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't that he had something in his mouth, and

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>he says didn't have his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal started calling for medical help. None came. Where was Mendoza.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the entire ridge began to shake. An American b

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>one was dropping bombs. There had been bombers and Apache

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>helicopters buzzing overhead, and now the enemy and first platoon

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<v Speaker 1>were separated enough that they could finally fire. All that time,

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<v Speaker 1>Sal waited with Brennan, trying to stop the bleeding, talking

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to him about home, trying to comfort him. Keep him alive.

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>You'll be okay, he told them, You'll get to tell

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>your hero stories. Brennan smiled. Eventually a metic arrived. It

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Mendoza. Sal wasn't sure where Mendoza was. Sal stayed

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>with Brennan until he was loaded onto that Medovac helicopter.

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.959
<v Speaker 3>He took him away, and hey, Brennan was still with

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 3>it when you left, and his heart rate was low,

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Over All Sal could do was pick up his gear

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and hiked the hours back through the valley to the

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Corngall outpost. As he went, he played the day over

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and over again in his head, thinking about what he

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>could have done differently, holding out a desperate hope that

0:25:43.920 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Brennan would survive. Many hours after that brutal firefight, Sao

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>was back at base, still holding out hope, and then

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he heard the news his friend Josh Brennan had passed

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>away after surgery. Mendoza had been shot in the femeral

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 1>artery early in the ambush. He bled out in a

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>ditch and died. Three other men had been airlifted out

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>with injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>That was bucked Ober twenty six, two thousand and seven.

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 3>But still, uh, I feel like such a baby. But

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>to me, that was my that was my hell, that

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 3>was my bad day.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Josh Brennan wasn't just a fellow soldier. He was SAO's

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>closest friend, the one he had fought side by side

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with As Sal was reeling from what had happened, his girlfriend,

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Jim was thousands of miles away getting bits and pieces

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of information. I got a.

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Phone call from one of my friends and other army spouse,

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and she was frantic. She was crying. She told me

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that Brandon died, and she told me that Sal was

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>a hero and that she didn't know when I was

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>going to hear from him. And I heard from him,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I think the next the next day or two, he

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>called and I could tell that he wasn't doing well.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Back in Iowa. Sal's parents, Rosemary and Steven, got a

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>call as well. Their stoic son never wanted to tell

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>them what he had seen or done. This was no different.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to talk about what happened that night,

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>but a mom knows when to push. Sal's mom shared

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 1>that moment and a tribute video.

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 4>I got the phone call and he was crying, he

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 4>was upset, and I said, can you tell me about it?

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 4>And he said it very strong. He says, I will

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 4>tell you once and I won't tell you again, and

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 4>don't ask any questions.

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>The hardest phone call he had to make was the

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>one he made with Eric Gayadbo. The two of them

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>called Josh Brennan's father. Sal wanted Josh's dad to know

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>how much Brennan had meant to him. He was crying

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>so hard it was difficult to speak, and after all

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>those calls he had to make sense of what happened

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>for himself.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 3>The strongest metals are forged in the hottest fires, and

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 3>our hottest fire was the Corngall Valley, and that bonded

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 3>us together in a way that cannot be broken.

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>It was true, but it wasn't much comfort. What was

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>worse was to talk about what he'd done. A few

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>days after the ambush, Guyadolo came to talk to Sal.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>You said, you're gonna get put in for a middle.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Of honor whatever. Guy out of the thought Sal's reaction

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>would be. He had to be surprised by what it

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>actually was.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I was pissed. You're gonna congratulate me, You're gonna pat

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>me on the back and say thanks. Stupid. You're absolutely

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 3>stupid if you think this is a good idea.

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>But the men of first Platoon were brothers, and just

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>as Sal had their backs, they had his. Eric Guayadlo

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>remembers the long conversations he had with Sal, trying to

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>help him make sense of the honor that might be

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>coming his way.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Me and him plenty of nights.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jay, I don't want this.

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't do anything more than the rest of you.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I went out there because Josh was my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>I went out there and save my friend. He would

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<v Speaker 5>have done the same exact thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric was trying to get him to see his actions

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<v Speaker 1>for what they were, acts of courage of heroism.

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<v Speaker 5>And I told Sal, I was like, I noticed, how

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<v Speaker 5>I know? Wait what you don't understand? What you did

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<v Speaker 5>was pretty crazy. You know, you single handley stopped the fight.

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<v Speaker 5>You stopped them from taking a soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sal didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 3>We all did what we felt we were supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>do because that's how we were trained. No one did

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<v Speaker 3>anything special. Every single one of us were fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>our absolute life.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal was supposed to be said back to Italy on

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<v Speaker 1>November third, two thousand and seven, but due to his

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<v Speaker 1>contract getting extended, he didn't leave Afghanistan until July of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight. When he got back to Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>Jen was waiting for him, so were nightmares. PTSD. The

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<v Speaker 1>effects of being shot at constantly for fifteen months were

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<v Speaker 1>not easy to shake. Sal tried not to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the events of October twenty fifth. Doing so made him

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<v Speaker 1>feel sick and terrible, so he just didn't. He took

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<v Speaker 1>a desk job, relieved to be off of the front lines.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Jen got engaged in July of two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine and married the following year. Life was quiet

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<v Speaker 1>and Sal was happier, And then came that phone call

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<v Speaker 1>in his office, the voice of the President on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal would have to finally come to terms with that

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<v Speaker 1>day and do it in the public eye. Within a

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<v Speaker 1>few months of that call, Sal Junta was at the

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<v Speaker 1>White House for his Medal of Honor ceremony. Nearly fifty

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers who had served with him in Italy and Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>were in attendance. The families of Josh Brennan and Hugo

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<v Speaker 1>Mendoza were there too. Clearly everyone knew how reluctant Sao

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<v Speaker 1>was to be labeled a hero. President Barack Obama certainly did.

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<v Speaker 6>He'll tell you that he didn't do anything special, that

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<v Speaker 6>he was just doing his job, that any of his

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<v Speaker 6>brothers in the unit would do the same thing. Staff

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<v Speaker 6>Sergeant Juna, your courage prevented the capture of an American

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<v Speaker 6>soldier and brought that soldier back to his family. You

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<v Speaker 6>may believe that you don't deserve this honor, but it

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<v Speaker 6>was your fellow soldiers who recommended you for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Something started to slowly shift for Sal if he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>let himself take credit for so what had happened during

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Avalanche? What could he do with this honor? How

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<v Speaker 1>could he live with the version of himself that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really recognize?

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<v Speaker 3>As I felt this light silk ribbon go around my neck,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt the weight of the sacrifices of those two men.

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<v Speaker 1>So he made a decision. He would accept the medal

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to keep their memory alive. He would

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<v Speaker 1>devote himself to doing better, to being better in honor

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if I got to do it, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>do it for them. And there's nothing they wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 3>for me, So how could I not do this for them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not to say that Sal feels any better

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<v Speaker 1>about that day in October of two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He still wonders, how can I be so great if

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<v Speaker 1>I allowed two of my friends to get killed. But

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<v Speaker 1>he can live with that feeling if it means honoring

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<v Speaker 1>his friends. He understands that the flip side of his

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<v Speaker 1>heroism is their ultimate sacrifice. The military pulled out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Corangall Valley in April of twenty ten. They had

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<v Speaker 1>never really want anything there. Sal left the army the

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<v Speaker 1>following year. He went back to college, and he and

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<v Speaker 1>Jen are now parents of two, a girl and a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a memoir about his experiences called Living with Honor.

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<v Speaker 1>We've read a lot of books by Medal of Honor

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<v Speaker 1>recipients and veterans in general, and let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>sALS is incredible, honest and thoughtful and funny and intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like Sal, It too, is a way for him

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<v Speaker 1>to memorialize his friends, to tell their story. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how Sal made peace with the Medal of Honor, the

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<v Speaker 1>same way he fought, by doing it for someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>It stays at my house at night, put it on

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<v Speaker 3>my neck when I need to. But this is not mine,

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<v Speaker 3>This is not for me. This represents so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>This represents not just my boys, not just Brandan, not

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<v Speaker 3>just Mendoza, or not all the guys who have been wounded,

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<v Speaker 3>not all the people who have suffered, not the families

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<v Speaker 3>that will pay the price for this country. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>for any one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for all of those people. And it's more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal doesn't just wear the metal for people in the

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<v Speaker 1>military or their families. He wears it to honor the

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<v Speaker 1>service of all Americans who were just doing their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>like he did, supporting each other and weighs big and small,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a difference. He wears it for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. He wears it for you. Medal of Honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories of Courage is written by Meredith Rollins and produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Meredith Rollins and Jess Shane. Our editor is Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Nadaf Hoffrey. Sound design and additional music by Jake Gorski.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producer is Constanza Gayardo. Fact checking by Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Gomperts and original music by Eric Phillips. Production support by

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<v Speaker 1>Suzanne Gabber. Special thanks to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society.

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