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Speaker 2: He's doing extremely well.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it's a non football you know, related injury, and

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Speaker 1: he's he's doing extremely well, and our doc said that

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Speaker 1: he could be back in our building as early as.

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Speaker 2: Next week, so we're happy for that.

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Speaker 3: He had the kind of camp where if he is

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Speaker 3: enabled to practice until maybe even late in the colts league,

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Speaker 3: that you have enough trust in him that that he's

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Speaker 3: clear he can have his regular role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean as a veteran player, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: what he can do. It's been unfortunate that, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the issues that he's been dealing with, you know,

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Speaker 1: not getting the reps. But I wouldn't have any have

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Speaker 1: any problem, you know with that. It'd be more about,

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Speaker 1: you know, where he was physically at the time.

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Speaker 2: What's your latest on Cooper?

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Speaker 1: You know, Cooper's going to be out this week obviously,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna be gonna be some time missed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much time, but it just depends

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Speaker 1: on the healing process, but it's gonna be some time missed.

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Speaker 2: You know, where it needs any surgery or not. No, surgery.

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Speaker 4: Okay, is the cooper on ir.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a real possibility, you know,

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Speaker 4: Possibly, Yes, any update I guess on Josh Wells there

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Speaker 4: in terms of how long he might be out, is that.

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Speaker 5: Necessarily a long term?

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Speaker 1: Again, timetables. I don't like to get into timetables with players.

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Speaker 1: Everybody heals differently. But again, he's another one that's gonna

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Speaker 4: Coach yesterday Press said he wanted to see a clean

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Speaker 4: operation from the offense. What would you like to see?

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Speaker 4: Are you more focused on the starters or on the

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Speaker 4: rest of the team.

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Speaker 6: Trying to make a spot?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, Uh, the clean operation. You know,

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Speaker 1: first series and we we we turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: You don't you don't want that. You want him to

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Speaker 1: There and and execute the offense. You know, we we

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Speaker 1: still don't game plan these games. We just want to

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Speaker 8: You're evaluating into roster guys. I know, special teams is

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Speaker 8: a very big part of that. But what are some

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a few things you look at,

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Speaker 2: It's just the sometimes it's the the.

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Speaker 1: fifty three forty eight on game day, and and and

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Speaker 9: Is your mind made up for a lot of the

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Speaker 9: every step of the way, Trevor, I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean, you know, you kind of have your

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Speaker 9: It's such a large rookie class this year. How do

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing that you, you know, you

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Speaker 2: I want to see more of Greg Junior. You know

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Speaker 1: So there's there's those things that that you know, a

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Speaker 1: We've seen him play right now. I want to see Ventrel.

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Speaker 5: Up, right, Junior're obviously pushing Tray for that spot.

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Speaker 7: How much do you anticipate in getting those reps potentially

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Speaker 2: Trade can care. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, it's kind of a fine line

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Speaker 4: You know, the training camp is basically pretty much over.

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Speaker 4: Just where did you see progress with Trevor and the offense?

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Speaker 1: The teaching aspect is we're not teaching plays, right, We're

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Speaker 2: You know, when you got you know, we had all

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Speaker 1: All eleven guys you know, on defense that are coming

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Speaker 6: Going back to Hodges, are we talking short term? I

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Speaker 2: You know, Josh where he's at.

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Speaker 9: Do you think he'll be ready to start the year?

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Speaker 2: Close? Close? You know?

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Speaker 1: Again, those hamstrings are are funny, you know, everybody heals

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Speaker 9: And have you seen enough from him throughout camp to

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Speaker 1: I think so, you know, I feel comfortable with what

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Speaker 2: You know, you'd love to see him again out there.

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Speaker 7: This final preseason game, is there a story or a

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Speaker 7: your eyes, you know, solidifying his name in order to

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Speaker 1: We had not not here, trying to think even in

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Speaker 1: we had a young receiver that made it on special teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, and he actually ended up Albert Wilson was

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Speaker 2: Career, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: Just goes to show you that know, anything's possible with

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Speaker 1: seen that, you know, and it really pushes those two

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Speaker 2: And and so Tyson's.

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Speaker 1: In a good spot, you know, heading into the you know,

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Speaker 1: Early in my career, it was very stressful, you know,

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Speaker 2: Kind of where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: Right we understand the the Tyson Campbell's and you know guys,

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Speaker 5: So many guys coming back, is that line very fine

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Speaker 1: Guys, it gets it gets real fine, It gets real fine,

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Speaker 1: And and so it gets it gets a little finer.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the the more depth you have on

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Speaker 9: because you got guys in some of those gray areas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you'd love to if these injuries were

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Speaker 2: And now they're getting healthy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we've got some time obviously this week,

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Speaker 2: But it's just the nature of the of the business.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we'll sit down as a staff with

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Speaker 1: roster's still change, practice, squads changing and all that might

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Speaker 2: Before you really settled in on your guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I never really appreciated this part of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you you you disrupt the lives of guys

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Speaker 2: The guys all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're competing for our roster, but there's

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Speaker 2: So again, it's may not be the end of the line.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the end of line here.

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Speaker 1: But not the end of the line you know on

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Speaker 2: So you know, put your best foot forward.

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Speaker 10: One latch thing you you're talking about the waiver wire.

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Speaker 10: Will you help do you do you anticipate that you

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Speaker 10: and Trent will invest more time than you anticipate it

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Speaker 10: on the waiver wire because of somebody fluid situations, particularly

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's a that's a real possibility. And

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Speaker 2: Right, that'll factor into this.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you'll take a look at it and

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Speaker 1: you know, see if someone's available to to help you out,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks