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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Philly Show. Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Toddswell

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Speaker 2: like it's the Philly Show. It's Wednesday, April thirtieth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. We survived Tuesday Night's bananas all ballgame. It's bananas,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: describe it. It was absolutely insane. How are you guys

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Speaker 2: doing today?

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Speaker 3: It's tired, but I'm I'm gonna apologize in advance. I'm

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Speaker 3: having a It's been a rough allergy season, as it

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Speaker 3: always is for me.

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Speaker 1: It's been the pollen's unbelievable. I went out Dolphin yesterday

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Speaker 1: late man, I was sneezing. I don't even have allergies.

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Speaker 3: Now I got all by myself. I'm the world's third

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Speaker 3: largest mucus producing nations. Today is really going to be

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Speaker 3: a tough one for me. It is a tough one,

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Speaker 3: So I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Okay, your angle boy, your mucus boys, mucus boy, he

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Speaker 2: does everything.

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Speaker 3: You've got a rubble on me the slug ball. I

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Speaker 3: did drop a Barty rubble on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. We did do slug ball. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: We're gonna obviously dig deep into this crazy but you

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Speaker 2: mentioned slugball gym and we had a great time. I

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Speaker 2: had a great time on Monday at the Trent and

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Speaker 2: thunder Ballpark, Uh, for Reuben's slug ball, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: know what you call it, like a soft launch, a

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Speaker 2: media event, Uh, kind of a little.

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Speaker 4: Why why don't you give it a scouting report?

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Speaker 2: So so I came home and my wife Ryan asked

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Speaker 2: me how it was, and I said, I would really

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Speaker 2: like to go back and do it again. And it

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Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. And I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 2: One is I never get to swing a bat. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to go to a batting cage down the

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Speaker 2: just you know, get in the sixty mile an hour

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Speaker 2: machine and try to hit some balls off with a

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Speaker 2: luminum bat. It's a competition. I got a real wood

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Speaker 2: bat in my hand. I hit with a torpedo bat

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Speaker 2: on Monday. It was fun. Didn't help me much. But

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Speaker 2: you're in a minor league park where Aaron Judge played,

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Speaker 2: Derek Jeter played, Chase Utley played, Jimmy round. You know,

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Speaker 2: all these great big leaguers came through and played. It

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Speaker 2: was a competition, So you're not just up there hacking

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Speaker 2: at it. You gotta try to pull it. You gotta

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Speaker 2: try to hit it the opposite field. You gotta try

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Speaker 2: to hit it up the middle. It was a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun. And I said to my wife and said,

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Speaker 2: this is this would be perfect for like fiftieth birthday,

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Speaker 2: fortieth birthday, bachelor party, big family event, like a family

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Speaker 2: reunion type thing. Let's go down and do some slug ball.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. Rubin. I gotta say

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Speaker 2: so thanks for thanks to the I'm glad you.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: Jim was a good time.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy, Jimmy wasn't a ficinado.

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Speaker 4: The man's got some talent, Jim.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, jim.

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Speaker 3: No, it was just it was it's always it's always

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Speaker 3: great to be on the field. And next I think

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Speaker 3: you need to incorpor in a ground ball contest and

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Speaker 3: they're making making a nice test. But it was. It

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Speaker 3: was great. It's always great to swing the bat be

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Speaker 3: out there. You're actually pretty.

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Speaker 4: Talented being able to manipulate the bat a little bit.

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Speaker 3: John yeh oh, you know, flying squirrel.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. Jimmy used to win the media batting

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Speaker 2: challenge at UH in clear Water early in spring training.

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Speaker 2: He used to win that every year. So he's myself short.

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Speaker 2: The funniest moment for me. So with a lot of

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Speaker 2: people were there, Dominic Brown was there, yep. And I'm

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Speaker 2: standing maybe twenty feet from the cage, and Jim's in

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Speaker 2: in between Jimmy in the cage and me where I'm standing,

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Speaker 2: and Jimmy's in there taking a couple of hacks, and

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Speaker 2: I go, uh, I go, how about that soul Verry?

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Speaker 2: I dropped a big Charlie manual impression on and Dominic

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Speaker 3: That is great. Yeah, that was so I'll never I'll

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Speaker 3: never forget the day, Dominic I think they were playing

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Speaker 3: in clear Water against the Detroit Tigers. Remember he took

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Speaker 3: Verlander deep twice, didn't he? In the in the spring training? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Don't forget that, and that on him and he turned

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Speaker 1: on it hit hit a home run to right.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty impressive, pretty beautiful. And I think that

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Speaker 3: was also the spring. Didn't he break the hook of

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Speaker 3: his handmade bone that spring? And I remember we poked

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Speaker 3: our head into Charlie's office to get a medical report

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Speaker 3: back when you could do those type of things, and

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Speaker 3: and and Charlie goes dominic dominic broke his handbone.

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Speaker 2: I do so I wanted to say.

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Speaker 1: I actually wanted to say a couple of things about

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Speaker 1: the slug ball. We have several events coming up, and

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Speaker 1: we actually talked to some major universities now for possible

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Speaker 1: like alumni instead of them playing like alumni games, they can.

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Speaker 4: Do a slum ball thing.

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Speaker 1: That's something that we're We've been talking to some major

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Speaker 4: Area about as well.

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Speaker 1: We have some stuff coming up in different facilities, one

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Speaker 1: one or two that will happen in Trenton during the

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Speaker 4: But we just think it's a.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's got a chance to be like a cool

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Speaker 1: place for people to gather and just enjoy baseball again

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Speaker 1: and to compete in tournament type play.

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Speaker 3: But there we're we're looking for.

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Speaker 4: We're actually thinking about different iterations of it, you know,

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Speaker 4: a little bit like a golf outing, a little bit

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Speaker 1: Needs and we just feel like it's it has something

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Speaker 1: it it's got a little spark to it and and.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to be able to get, you know, pick.

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Speaker 4: Up the bat and swing it again. You know, I

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Speaker 1: I mean I sucked, but I you know, I took

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Speaker 1: a couple of swings, hit the ball the other way. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't turn on anything, but but.

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Speaker 3: It was but it was fun for me. I enjoyed

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Speaker 3: it as well. That's a great idea. I love the

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Speaker 3: college alum replaced in the alumni game. You guys would

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Speaker 3: love that because they those kids can all play five, ten,

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Speaker 3: fifteen years coming out of college. You can still swing

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Speaker 3: it and they would have some hooting and holler and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's set some of the plan as well, and

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Speaker 2: So well, I really did enjoy myself and I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: Feeling good about yourself again, right, yeah, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun. We had that slug

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Speaker 2: ball on Monday. Tuesday night, though, guys, this game the

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Speaker 2: Phillies won in extra innings. It was absolutely insane. They

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Speaker 2: the Phillies won a game on a walk off wild

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, April twenty sixth, nineteen ninety three. I looked this

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Speaker 2: veteran stadium. Yes, Wan Bell scored on a wild pitch.

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Speaker 2: That was the last time it happened. Then last night

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Speaker 2: Bryce and Scott scores on a wild pitch, gets his

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Speaker 2: absolute sanity, Jim, you were there till the bitter end?

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Speaker 2: What was that like?

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Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily a better man for it either. There

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Speaker 3: were times when that thing was painful to watch.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: There was there was, There was some highs, and there

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Speaker 3: was some lows, and ultimately they walked off with smiles

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Speaker 3: and handshakes. But man, getting there was a trip through

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Speaker 3: the meat grinder. And you know the highs they hadn't

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Speaker 3: Turner actually swings the bat really good RBI double, Rojas

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Speaker 3: bases loaded, no outs and you know, just power stuff Cutter,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely incredible. I feel like it should have been his night,

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Speaker 3: there always seemed to be one er away from breaking

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Speaker 3: his second misplay of the night in center field, can't happen,

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened. Nathaniel Lowe three run home run.

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Speaker 3: The life goes out of the ballpark. That said, they

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Speaker 3: Stock coming home, and they pull off a really good

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Speaker 3: but you know, driving home, I just couldn't stop thinking

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Speaker 3: some point it's going to break your heart. And Turner

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Speaker 3: is a major concern at shortstop. You know, his first

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Speaker 3: two years in philadelp you forty errors at shortstop, and

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Speaker 3: last night he threw away two balls, only one of

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Speaker 3: them was scored an era. He drops down, he slings

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Speaker 3: it doesn't, like I said, bite you in the ascid

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Speaker 3: at the absolute wrong time. And if and you can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the defense of course struggling in an example here, guys,

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm sure that at some point, you

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Speaker 1: And he's really started to swing it well too. And

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Speaker 1: But I was a preseason All American and second base

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Speaker 1: to call it.

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00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: My senior year, they moved me.

436
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: To the outfield.

437
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: I played left field for most of the year, almost

438
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: the entire year at an All American season. It really

439
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: did lift the burden for me mentally, and uh, you know,

440
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: just allowed me to play the game, you know, with

441
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: more freedom and more open mind than this.

442
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the case for others, but

443
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 4: for me, that really worked well.

444
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: Trey in his last nine games is batting four twenty

445
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: one with a nine to fifty ops, so he's he's

446
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: been swinging the bat pretty well. But Jim, yeah, Jim,

447
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: you mentioned at the top of the show, how after

448
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 2: Alvarado got out of that eighth in and you're going,

449
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: that shit, that's the story of the night, right, So

450
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: I always think, you know, I'm sitting at home watching

451
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: the game, and I'm going, that's that's probably who I'm

452
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: taking a run at in the clubhouse, Jose Alvarado. He

453
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: strikes out Josh Bell swinging on a cutter. He strikes

454
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: out Dylan Cruz swinging on a cutter. He strikes out

455
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: Alex Call swinging on a cutter, and he has a

456
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: great reaction coming off the mound. He has fired up again.

457
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: Basses loaded outs, you know, a couple defensive you know,

458
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: uh one one miscue there by by Tray kind of

459
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 2: loads the bases with nobody out. And that was the

460
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: first time here's another great little uh trivia trivia question.

461
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: First time since July seventh, nineteen sixty eight, that Phillies

462
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: pitcher struck out three straight batters with the bases loaded

463
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: in the eighth inning. Or later, Dick Hall did it

464
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: against the Mets.

465
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: Oh, Dicky Hall, Old, Dicky Hall.

466
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Everybody remember Sick Hall. Dick Hall did it against the Mets.

467
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: The Phillies were trailing by two. In the top of

468
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: the ninth, Dick Hall does it, strikes out the Mets

469
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: with the bases loaded. Nobody out. Dick Allen then goes

470
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: off and it smashes a three run walk off home

471
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: run to win it.

472
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Speaker 4: Hallam, Yeah, Hall of Famer.

473
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: So Dick Allen, the Hall of Famer, Dick Allen.

474
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: Two dicks in the spot.

475
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes people say there's three dicks in this pot.

476
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Dick called Dick Allen, three of us.

477
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: You know what are we all having?

478
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: You know that's a name you just don't hear anymore, No,

479
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: you don't.

480
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, But guys, So I watched Jose strike out these

481
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 6: three guys on these unhittable cutters, and I said, man,

482
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 6: I wonder how good that cutter has been this year.

483
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: Obviously it's been good, but you know, I like to

484
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: throw out some numbers. So entering last night's game, his

485
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: whiff rate, that's swings and misses on on the cutter

486
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: this season going into last night, forty one and a

487
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: half percent. So too, what I have, every five swings

488
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: at his cutter are just whiffs. That's the highest rate

489
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 2: whiff rate of any cutter in Major League Baseball of

490
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: I think at least fifteen cutters thrown or something like that.

491
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Speaker 1: So I would have said, I would have said my

492
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: manual class A. But I guess he's struggling a little

493
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: bit this year.

494
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, so his his, Yeah, Jose's Jose's cutter has

495
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: been just off the charts good. I mean, gosh, imagine

496
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: where they would be with throwing right now this season.

497
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, his resurrection is probably the biggest story in

498
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: that bullpen because you know, he's he's been outstanding, and

499
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: the rest have not been as outstanding. Even mott Strom

500
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: showed league in a little bit of oil, not as dominant,

501
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: of course, difficult to be as dominant as he was

502
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: last year. As in All Star I was kind of

503
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: curious what was the story on Romano being a Romano

504
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: being available yesterday on Tuesday Night that's a good question.

505
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: He was up, he was up to the path.

506
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just kind of have to way through the

507
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: ball in Chicago in his last outing that they may

508
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: not go to him to try to get O'Ryan through it.

509
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: Oriyan Kirkering through that night inning, and it looks like.

510
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: He's got on the depth on the depth chart right now,

511
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: it's got Kirkering over Romano.

512
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: But that might change.

513
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: That might might have been a matchup thing. But he

514
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: was up for the tenth. Okay, if it was indeed

515
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: a tenth.

516
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: So Cookering five five six e RA but in his

517
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: last five appearances allowed nine runs in four and a

518
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: third innings twelve point four to sixty r in his

519
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: last five five appearances, eight hits, two home runs, three walks,

520
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: forced wrikeouts, just making the wrong, you know, the the

521
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: wrong pitch at the wrong time. I believe he shook

522
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: off JT before that three run home on that pitch.

523
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: I believe he did. I know, Zach, Zach, Zach, you know,

524
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: Zach is such a hype.

525
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 6: He shook JT on the whole run he did it was.

526
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: I was watching the post game, and uh, this is why.

527
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I love Zach is. Zach

528
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: brought it up on his own. You know, he didn't

529
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: even need to be asked about it. He's like, yeah,

530
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: I was going pretty good until I shook off JT

531
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: on that one.

532
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: Pitch that's right, and he kind of fell fastball in.

533
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: He was throwing that goal for that front the door sinker,

534
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: and it sank right into.

535
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: His barrel, right into the bat bat path and just

536
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: barreled it, just barreled it. So yeah, that was yeah,

537
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: that was uh, you know, that's why that's why I

538
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: like watching Zach or love talking to Zach.

539
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: He's give me the honest answer, baby, Yeah he did.

540
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: And so then in the ninth inning, real quick you

541
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: when I mentioned how they keep it alive, Alec Bohm

542
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: hits that leadoff single to right field. He gets to

543
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: third base. Uh, he scores on a sack fly to

544
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: shallow right field. Johann Rojas gets one, puts the bat

545
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: on the ball, gets it to shallow right field. Dusty

546
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: wafton with I thought was just a crazy gutsy call

547
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: on Dusty Waton's part, right, because Alc is not the

548
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: fleetest afoot. It's shallow right field. Dylan Cruz has a

549
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: good arm. These are all things that that Dusty knows

550
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: and he sends them. And because you got to make

551
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: the perfect throw, you got to make the perfect catch,

552
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: and you know you can't. Who knows what happens on

553
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: that play? Boom missus whiffs on that, whiffs on the

554
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: throat of the plate. Alec Bohm scores Alec Bohm sprint

555
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: speed twenty eight point three feet per because he has

556
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: moved all season, so he was flying down the third

557
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: base line and scores.

558
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: You broke up that what you said, you broke up?

559
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: That was the fastest he's moved.

560
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: That was the fastest he's Yeah, that was the fastest

561
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: he has run all season. Twenty eight point three sprint

562
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: feet per second.

563
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: Sprints and a and a good throw probably gets him there.

564
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: But the throws up the line and it's a gamble

565
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: you have to take and you know, good job by all.

566
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott Cavance, it's a third base on the throw, yes, yes, yes,

567
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: So I want to look at this graphic.

568
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: This is kind of me. Look at this picture on

569
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: your on your screen. I want to see if this

570
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: is where Scott was when the ball gets away from

571
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: Kybert Ruiz, if you can see. I mean, it's it's

572
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: not it's a far away viewpoint. But look, look where

573
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Scott is. He's maybe what how many feet off the

574
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: bag do you think he is? Guys?

575
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: Oh, just sturing that it's just one on the This.

576
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: Is the wild pitch that Bryson Scott scores on. So again,

577
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: it's if you're watching, if you're watching on YouTube, you

578
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: can kind of see where. You can see where Scott is.

579
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: You can see where this is. Kyber Ruiz now is

580
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: trying to get to the ball. It's where you can

581
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: clearly see the ball got away from him. Stott had

582
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: to go a long way and that ball did not

583
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: get too far off the plate from where kybert Ruiz

584
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: was right there. Well, the he hauled it.

585
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he runs really really well. But the thing

586
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: that I like the.

587
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Most is that he see where the third basement is

588
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: is in relation to where Scott is to the third base.

589
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: He's off the base, and I'm sure that Dusty is

590
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: telling him a be ready for a ball in the

591
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: dirt because you can score here on a possible wild pitch,

592
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: and he's telling him to get off there as much

593
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: as possible. And he's got the leeway to do it

594
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: because the third basement so far off. And this is

595
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: these are the little intricacies of the game. Like if

596
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm playing third base, I know I have to get deep,

597
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: but I also have to be aware that I got

598
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: to sort of keep this guy a little bit close,

599
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: so you sort of deek a little bit.

600
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: Nobody like the like.

601
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: The instincts of the game I think have eluded a

602
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of players, Like these are little.

603
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: Things that cause big things. Little little means a lot.

604
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: That's a Charlie manual that if if he deeks a

605
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: little bit and keep.

606
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: Stot a little closer to the bag, he doesn't score

607
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: on that ball.

608
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: In a dirt and they might end up winning the

609
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: baseball game. I mean, those are little instinctive things that

610
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: happen in the game.

611
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: That you don't see. You know, some players do because.

612
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: They don't understand the instincts of the game. They don't

613
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: understand the intricacies of the game. And that's those are

614
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the parts of the game that I've been that have

615
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: eluded us and have gone away, And I wish they

616
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: could come back, because I wish there's some veteran guys

617
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: out there teaching these young players how to play the

618
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: game again, those little pieces mean something, and.

619
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: We've gotten away from that.

620
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: And that's what hurts me a little bit about what's

621
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: happened with the old analytics world and the fact that

622
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: some of the older, more veteran guys who are around coaches,

623
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: staff members, development people are not around to be able

624
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: to teach.

625
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: And really, I just you know, on my pedestal for

626
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: a second.

627
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: That's fine, You're loved, but and you really got to

628
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: be ready to go at third base. In any era

629
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: of the game, you have to be alert and ready

630
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: to go on a short pass ball or a short

631
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: while pitch, but especially in the one knee catcher era especially,

632
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: it's just it's just awful.

633
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: It's just awful.

634
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: Why you would do that with the man on third

635
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: I just don't get it. But it makes me gag.

636
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: It makes me gag. Jim literally makes me.

637
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: And it's losing and winning games, and that's an embarrassment

638
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: to the.

639
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: Game to me. I am not in favor of a gym,

640
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: but I doesn't love it. I love I love how

641
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Jim gets so fired out up about one catcher. So

642
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: I will ruben, I I will I all on occasion

643
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: just to poke at Jim. I'll go, oh man, I

644
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 2: love that one cat. There's nothing. There's nothing wrong with

645
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 2: the gym. It's not a big deal.

646
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with nothing.

647
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: We gotta have done car position.

648
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, But you know what, the whatever the

649
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: animal is out of the barn because it's everywhere I

650
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: see it, high school, everywhere. It's now. It's as fundamental

651
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: as Johnny bench is all set up.

652
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 4: The toothcases out of the tube.

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Speaker 3: It is. It is embarrassing to the game.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that guys can't frame.

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Speaker 1: Bit balls with with both being on both feet and

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Speaker 1: not on a knee. The fact that they can't do

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Speaker 1: that is an estout and astonishment to me.

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Speaker 3: I don't get good. Good athletes have good feet and

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Speaker 3: good legs, and they move well on their feet. Why

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Speaker 3: you would eliminate your feet is beyond me. You're eliminating

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Speaker 3: your athleticism behind there anyway. There's a lot of people people,

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Speaker 3: all the people like the one that you're gonna hate

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Speaker 3: Jim right now?

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Speaker 2: Is that cut him your gym? I love it? I

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Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, we're gonna wrap this up. But what

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Speaker 2: want to mention something before we wrap it up. Christopher

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Speaker 2: Sanchez is going to start on Wednesday night at Citizens

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Speaker 2: Bank Park. He is back after having that scare last

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Speaker 2: week with the left forearm soreness. We were all concerned

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Speaker 2: about that because the forearms can connect to the elbow.

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Speaker 2: As we all know.

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Speaker 3: You can den eye on that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean that. It's not like

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Speaker 2: he's out of the woods yet. We want to see

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Speaker 2: how he pitches. We want to see how it tough plays.

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Speaker 2: We want to see him. You know, we got you

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Speaker 2: got to see. The proof is in the pudding. So

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Speaker 2: but all signs so far are up on Christopher Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker is going to start, I guess on Thursday

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Speaker 2: night against the Nationals now Rangers. Suarez is going to

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Speaker 2: throw a bullpen on Wednesday. That's a Bank park. They're

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Speaker 2: going to decide what to do after that. He could

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Speaker 2: his next start could.

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Speaker 4: Be Friday or Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Nough Yeah, maybe yeah, Friday or Saturday. Maybe for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: I guess they could have him make another rehab start.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I would be surprised. I guess if

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Speaker 2: they would do that. Rob Thompson was asked yesterday before

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Speaker 2: the game, do you think there's a chance they could

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Speaker 2: do a six man rotation? He said possibly. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's going to happen. I would I would personally

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Speaker 2: bet a bet against it, you know. He one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons is that now you're gonna have a seven

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Speaker 2: man bullpen. Bullpen's not thrown great, and if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a seven man bullpen, you need some guy that

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Speaker 2: can go up and down and all that. They have

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Speaker 2: only two guys in the bullpen right now that have options.

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Speaker 2: Ryan kirk Ring, you're not sending him down most likely,

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Speaker 2: right and then Tanner Banks. Yeah, it's I guess if

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Speaker 2: he keeps going south on him, they can send him

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Speaker 2: down to get straight and Tanner Bank. So you only

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Speaker 2: have two guys in the in the bullpen right now,

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Speaker 2: that have options, so you're kind of limited. And then

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Speaker 2: you also have to go, well, who are you calling up?

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Speaker 2: You know Maxwell's are is down there. They just converted

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Speaker 2: Seth Johnson into a relief.

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Speaker 1: Might be a possibility they've gotten out in the bullpen

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Speaker 1: now as we've uh somebody Stuteley pointed out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so you know he's got to strikes.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he threw strikes in his first out.

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Speaker 3: Gotta throw strikes.

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Speaker 4: Can't come out of the and throw balls.

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Speaker 2: He's he's he'd walked a few guys, struck out a

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Speaker 2: few guys in his first couple appearances, so I wanted

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Speaker 2: to mention those things. A lot of that was a lot, man,

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of craziness happened on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: night at the ballpark, right what, Well, Wednesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 2: bring we'll be back. Yeah, we'll be back on Friday

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Speaker 2: to uh, you know, kind of wrap up the National

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Speaker 2: Series and then preview a big series, fun series this

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Speaker 2: weekend against the Arizona Diamondbacks and Corpora. Carrol just going nuts.

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Speaker 2: That guy's a stud. So yeah, guys, that was fun.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you later.

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Speaker 3: Smell Lall Jim.

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