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Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.

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Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast, and now

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Speaker 3: we are joined by Jaguars running back Travis etn Junior.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say I'm.

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Speaker 3: Excited about this because his story is fascinating. The way

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Speaker 3: he came into the league, what he went through early

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Speaker 3: in his career, and where he is now. It's a

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Speaker 3: pretty remarkable ascension, fulfilling of his potential, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Travis, we appreciate you join us.

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Speaker 1: I just so I appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 3: And you heard what I just said, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it's interesting. Does it feel like year three to you?

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Speaker 2: In a way?

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Speaker 3: It feels like you've been around for a while and

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Speaker 3: yet not playing the rookie year?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not? I mean, how does it feel? Do you

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Speaker 2: feel like a year three? Vet?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so just Mo definitely, I feel like a year

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Speaker 4: three for me just coming in with Trevor, uh, just

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Speaker 4: kind of seeing them growing pains that we had here

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Speaker 4: throughout Jackson, just seeing things develop.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely feeling like year three.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean to you to have been when

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Speaker 3: something special and growing. What does it mean to you

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Speaker 3: to be sort of fulfilling that goal if you will?

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Speaker 4: I just mean how to just to keep the main

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Speaker 4: thing the main thing? And uh, just keep just stay

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Speaker 4: focused on the right things because what we're doing is

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Speaker 4: clearly been working, and don't change who we are. Just

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Speaker 4: keep keep working, keep pushing, and keep striving for greatness

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Speaker 4: and then good things are going to come from that. Now.

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Speaker 3: I got to ask you when you mentioned Trevor, one

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Speaker 3: of the things I was thinking and uh, and I'm

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Speaker 3: preparing for this interview. You came in and it seemed

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Speaker 3: like the first time anybody talked to you, first question

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Speaker 3: is always about Trevor his first round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was the number one draft.

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Speaker 3: Pick, but that never seemed to bother you in terms

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Speaker 3: of always being asked about him. Uh, I guess did

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Speaker 3: it everybody? And if not?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 4: I like to fight under the radar and I feel

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Speaker 4: like Trevor gives me that, He gives me the ability

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Speaker 4: to fight under the radar and just kind of stayed

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Speaker 4: in myself. I feel like I'm like just a very cool,

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Speaker 4: conflicted guy just staying myself for you, just coming here,

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Speaker 4: and all about business end of the day, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like I'm here.

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Speaker 1: To play football.

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Speaker 4: All the media and all the other stuff that just

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Speaker 4: comes to me being a great player, and I understand that.

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Speaker 4: But if I can throw something on Trevor the in

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Speaker 4: the day and let him do it, I love that.

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Speaker 2: And that's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: I get the impression I talked to you in the

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Speaker 3: locker room a lot, as the media do done it here,

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Speaker 3: but doing this kind of a thing, you do it

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Speaker 3: because you know the fans sort of want to get

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Speaker 3: to know you a little bit. But you could do

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Speaker 3: without it in the end, couldn't you?

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Speaker 1: Most definitely?

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Speaker 4: Most definitely, I'm just here to play football and I

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Speaker 4: win football games and do my job and go home

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Speaker 4: and do with my family.

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Speaker 3: How often in Jacksonville now after being here a while,

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Speaker 3: do you get approached a lot? Uh your relationship with fans?

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Speaker 3: How do you handle that? Because that can sometimes not

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Speaker 4: I mean, just honestly, we're used to that. Just coming

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Speaker 4: all the time. So I feel like there it was

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Speaker 4: crazy because of the fan base, because of all the

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Speaker 4: one that we have been doing. But just hearing Jack

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Speaker 4: just us changing the culture. It's kind of becoming the same.

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Speaker 4: And uh, it's kind of becoming a norm like we're

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Speaker 3: Plus in college, you got to go to class and

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Speaker 3: it's harder. I would assume it's harder to get the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and college was it was definitely the most.

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Speaker 4: It was harder because, like you said, I gotta go

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Speaker 4: with the team and the facility, and now when I

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Speaker 4: I don't really much go outside. Uh it's like a

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Speaker 4: but there's nothing, nothing too major.

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 3: I know it's looking back a little bit, but I'm

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Speaker 3: wondering if with perspective. A year and a half later,

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Speaker 3: I asked about this last time you were on it,

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Speaker 3: how difficult was that rookie season to get through? Now

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Speaker 3: that you look back, on it, because that's a brutal

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Speaker 3: missing your rookie season with a foot injury. Any perspective

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Speaker 4: I want to say it helped me just by understanding

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Speaker 4: how how the game can be taken away from you

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Speaker 4: and how that we don't have like this is the

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Speaker 4: this is the end. This is it for me at

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Speaker 4: the NFL, is like you reached the way you wanted

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Speaker 4: to reach and what you've always wanted, y was always

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Speaker 4: wanted and just knowing that this is the last step

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Speaker 4: and I just understand that it can be taken away

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Speaker 4: just be grateful every opportunity I have on that field,

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Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, andy can injury

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Speaker 4: can happen, sure, and I've been through that, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like the thing that hurt me the most of

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Speaker 4: my rookie season with just not been on the field,

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Speaker 4: just having to come here and watch them play and

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Speaker 4: me knowing that I can be able to help them

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Speaker 4: win football games. I feel like that was the hardest

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Speaker 2: Separate from it.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's always difficult because you're not quite in that

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, but I was here every day at

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Speaker 4: like one time, it was like having a birthday party

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Speaker 4: and not being able to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: The birthday cake. So just like I was here every day.

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Speaker 4: Doing everything with him and not being able to play

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Speaker 3: Sure, which was tough for me. No carred at the end.

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Speaker 3: So that's it. That's brutal. Talk to me about this season.

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Speaker 3: Are you a Are you a different runner now than

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Speaker 4: Honestly know Okay, honestly no, I'm really not. I'm really

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Speaker 4: I just have a better understanding that the scheme and

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Speaker 4: I have a better understanding of the NFL, understanding that

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Speaker 4: I'm not going.

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Speaker 1: To be every guy to the sideline.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now you can watch like my high school clips,

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Speaker 4: where now it's really about leverage and understanding that everyone's fast,

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Speaker 4: Got much better this year, been a more vertical runner

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Speaker 4: to where in college I'm looking for that home run

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Speaker 4: every time. Sure to right now, I understand the first

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Speaker 4: down is important. I understand that their four yards are

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Speaker 4: understanding that four yards is a good run. I feel

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Speaker 4: like I struggled with that for a long time. This

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Speaker 4: but just understanding that four yards is a good run

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Speaker 4: to keep the change moving and just wear the defense

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Speaker 4: down and things are going to work out for you.

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Speaker 2: How do you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I've obviously never played running back. How do you

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Speaker 3: incorporate that kind of thinking into your game? And I

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Speaker 3: sure instincts take over. Was it difficult to sort of

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Speaker 3: get that of Okay, I've got to do this.

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Speaker 2: I've got to try it.

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Speaker 3: I've got to have this be what my instinct is.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: But I just feel it was very easy for me

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Speaker 4: instead of instead of having my shoulder square, my shows

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Speaker 2: To see easier to cut back because you can easier,

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Speaker 4: See the whole field, I can see the a gape,

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Speaker 4: I can see the cut back and see everything. So

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Speaker 4: for me, it was just getting the show the square,

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Speaker 4: and now the defender don't have a tip on where

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go with either, so now it's for me,

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Speaker 4: I still to get better at pressing a line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: like just keeping the defender the air for a second.

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Speaker 4: And but other than that, it was really just the

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Speaker 4: smallest thing was my steps.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, My guess is you're selling yourself short. You probably

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Speaker 3: had to work harder at that.

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Speaker 2: Then you're letting on.

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Speaker 4: But I mean it was really just, honestly, just coach

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Speaker 4: prominently made me do steps every day. Was here voluntaris,

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Speaker 4: he was steps. It was steps, step steps, And even

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Speaker 4: when I'll go home, I was just in a marriage

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Speaker 4: is working on the steps so that way, like you said,

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Speaker 4: when now I'm in the game, like it is second

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Speaker 4: nature because I did those steps so many now I'm

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Speaker 4: not reverting back.

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Speaker 2: To got you.

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Speaker 4: My old stells are what I become accustomed to in

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Speaker 4: the past. Now like I done so much repetition on

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Speaker 4: it now that is what I'm used to.

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Speaker 3: Right. It's not always an easy thing to do, accepting

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Speaker 3: that you need to do something because what got you here,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to keep me here?

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Speaker 2: Right, got you in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I understand, Like my rookie season I have

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Speaker 4: twelve hundred yards, but just me knowing me, I know

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Speaker 4: just because of me not having my shoulder square or

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Speaker 4: So it's like I want to go out there and

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Speaker 3: it was last week before the bye when you were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't going on defense if I had to

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Speaker 4: So I was always good at running away from people

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, they call that tackle loco. I

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Speaker 4: Not so my mom she told me. She told me

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it wasn't really funny. The problem. It

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Speaker 4: Most definitely, I feel like last year she really played

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Speaker 1: She's definite gonna let me know.

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Speaker 2: When did she know you were back player a game?

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Speaker 4: It was a Giants game, okay, when I think I

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Speaker 2: And when she said that, then you knew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when she when she told me that, I kind

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Speaker 2: You're thinking about it right.

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Speaker 4: So and then now just this year me and I

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to I'm sure it's hard to play

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Speaker 3: Your last binge.

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Speaker 1: Watch, my last binge watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're a big TV guy, So I

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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm actually binge watching it right now because my

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Speaker 1: And I kind of I finished that quickly, like thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Oh last song I heard this morning. I should know that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I was listening to. I want to

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Speaker 2: Okay, got you best Cajun food and Jack's.

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Speaker 3: If there is any best caging food and you can't

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Speaker 4: This is one spot I went to actually, like right

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Speaker 2: But but your moms sad, right, Yeah, my mom gotcha.

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Speaker 1: She could have all the time she could have.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday I had one over there and ate Okay, but I.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha favorite runner growing up?

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Speaker 1: If you had one La Damien Thomason period period, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Your best run that you know, its proud.

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Speaker 1: Of my best run.

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Speaker 4: I would say the one in uh the Bills, the

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Speaker 1: I kind of like both of.

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Speaker 3: Those, honestly, thirty six yard, the thirds, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hard work pay off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like last year.

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Speaker 4: That's probably a run that I wouldn't have made because

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Speaker 4: I was, like my grandma asked me in high school,

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Speaker 4: just took off, and I think I scored probably every

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Speaker 4: time I touched the ball.

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Speaker 1: And people after that.

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Speaker 2: Hell I had to be but you were smart nothing.

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to get hit.

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Speaker 1: I was smart of them though.

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Speaker 3: I can outrun these guys, Travis. I always enjoy talking

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Speaker 3: to you like this. I appreciate you joining us, and

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Speaker 3: it's a busy week. Thanks for joining the Oazon podcast

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Speaker 3: once again.

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Speaker 1: All right, just so I appreciate you