1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh, the World of Sports. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Game three World Series tonight Monday Night, the world's best 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: football operation. The Kansas City Chiefs play all sorts of 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: drama yesterday. It's The Herd in Chicago, wherever you may be, 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: however you may be listening, Thanks for making us part 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: of your day on whatever platform it is. 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Jmac one hour from now. 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, There's obviously 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: plenty of both. And you gotta say the Green Bay 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Packers no quarterback. It can be farm it can be Rogers, 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: it can be Jordan Love. That second half last night. 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: Whoo yeah, twenty straight completions. 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 5: Woo. 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: Let's start with that. 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: So I saw a headline this morning, up and coming 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Jordan loves Stars as the Packers beat the Steelers. Jordan 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Love second half on the road standalone game against maybe 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame coach and a veteran defense that's 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: as good as second half and that spot as farvn 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: Rogers had, he is elite arm size, mobility, accuracy. Combine 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: that with Matt Lafleur's play design and the green Bay 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: smart front office. This is going to be a Super 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Bowl capable winning team for the next five years minimum. 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: And last night was very instructive for NFL fans. I 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: watched a game between the Packers and the Steelers, and 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I saw smart and progressive and offensively nimble for one franchise, 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: And then I also watched the Steelers. I mean, these 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: are two franchises going in the opposite direction, with the 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: opposite ideology. Aaron Rodgers has done a good job to 37 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,559 Speaker 1: put some makeup on this organization, but need a facelift. 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: Two iconic franchises. 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: One of them has embraced offense, one as an old quarterback, 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: one as a young star. One is loaded with young 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver and tight end. The other spends 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: a fortune on defense. It's revolutionary against the rust Belt. 43 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: As Steelers spent all that money on defense, why do 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: they tackle so poorly? And for the record, Las Vegas season. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: You know who's favored to win the AFC North this morning, 46 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the two and five Baltimore Ravens. You can't fool Vegas. 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: And you can see it in the Steelers' mentality. First half, 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: fourth and three, let's kick a field goal. That's not it, man, 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: that's not it. The second half by Jordan Love and 50 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Matt LeFleur, all time stuff, sixteen to nineteen, outscore the 51 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Steelers twenty eight to nine, passer rating at one forty eight. 52 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: And the Steelers meanwhile dead last and fourth down attempts. 53 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: It's punts and field goals. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh stuck in 54 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: the wrong era, and it was so instructive to watch 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: green Bay, little small market green Bay draft and develop 56 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and pay. I mean there, you look at what green 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Bay is paying star quarterback Micah Parsons. It's all the 58 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: right stuff, right. There's an offensive lineman making a lot 59 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: of money. There's a coach and a quarterback making money. 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: There's a pass rusher making money. Pittsburgh gets old. It's defense. 61 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Aaron's doing the best job you can to put a 62 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: little makeup on the blemishes, but they need a lot 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: more than that. This was about Jordan Love. This is 64 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: what Green Bay does. Pittsburgh doesn't show the urgency at quarterbacks, 65 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: so they end up with. 66 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: A forty one year old quarterback. 67 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay drafts quarterbacks three years before they need them, 68 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: let them develop, and Jordan Love is no longer up 69 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: and coming. 70 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: Stop it. 71 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: He's the top six to seven guy in the league. 72 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: He has officially arrived as a star quarterback in this league. 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: And here is Matt Lafleuur after. 74 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 6: It's great for jan Jordan's worked his off to get here. 75 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 6: You know, he was patient throughout the process, throughout the journey, 76 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 6: and he just he took advantage of the opportunity. 77 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: He's a great teammate. 78 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 6: He encourages the other guys, he's a hell of a leader, 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 6: and he's really grown as a football player. 80 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no up and coming about it. That second 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: half in that space, that defense, that coach, that was 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: something else. And I said this last year and I've 83 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: said it a half a dozen times this year. That 84 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: tight end Craft that is a ten year Pro bowler. 85 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: That guy is unbelievable. There's your Travis Kelce. I mean, 86 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: that kid is unbelievable. It's amazing where you get these 87 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: tight end small schools. Fourth round, George Kittle, fifth round. 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: That kid is an all time talent. Way to go Packers. 89 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: Well well, well, what do you know? 90 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: As the Packers are surging the rival Bears at the 91 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: most important position and offense, look a little lost. That 92 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: was a bad loss to Baltimore. Lamar Jackson can't play 93 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: and the Ravens still controlled the game straight week or 94 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: is it second straight week? Caleb Williams didn't have a touchdown, 95 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: So first, Tyler Huntley. 96 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: Deserves a lot of credit. 97 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: The backup quarterback for the Ravens total pro, totally coachable, 98 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: very efficient. That kid seventy seven percent completion percentage of 99 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: no turnovers, never got the Ravens in trouble. Let's let's 100 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: be honest. He was tremendous. He's exactly what a backup 101 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: quarterback should be. Let's give that kid credit. Tyler Huntley, 102 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: you are a pro. You are exactly what I want 103 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: from a backup. I mean he made every time they 104 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: asked him to make a big throw, he did it. 105 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: So let's just not blast Caleb. That is what a 106 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: backup quarterback is. I may need you twice a year. 107 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Lamar was there high five in him, pro gets the 108 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: playoff in time, made three or four big throws, new 109 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: when to get down, new when to throw it away. 110 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: That's one of the best backup performances you're gonna see. Now, 111 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: let's talk Caleb, because that's what the game was about. 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is a ton and rhythm head coach for 113 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: the Bears, Folks, Caleb is not a timing rhythm quarterback. 114 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: It's a weird marriage. 115 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Maybe it lasts, but they're gonna be in therapy for 116 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty five years. This thing is going to be a 117 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: weird marriage. Caleb. Here's what's worrisome. If you look at Caleb, 118 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: he's very good right in the on script in the 119 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: first quarter, but in the second through fourth quarters he's 120 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: completing fifty eight percent of his throws and it gets worse. 121 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: On the opening drive of the game, Caleb Williams this 122 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: year completes eighty one percent of his throws with one 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven passer rating. The rest of the game 124 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: he completes fifty nine percent with an eighty seven passer rating. 125 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: You take away that opening drive with. 126 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson and I've said you got the right coach, 127 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and it gets ugly. I mean the Bears offense. It's 128 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: like that kid when the parents are home. He's fine, 129 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: they leave, go to the grocery store, they come back 130 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and the house is burned down. You can't script the 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: entire game. You gotta be good beyond the first or 132 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: second series. You got to be able to do stuff 133 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: on your road. And he's dynamic. I think he's a 134 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: nice guy. He's got a big arm. He's obviously on script, 135 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: very coachable. But top tier quarterbacks hit the layups, even 136 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: the layups look hard. And that interception by Caleb is 137 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: a prime example. Caleb saw it one way, that interception, 138 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: he saw it one way. Ben Johnson sees this interception 139 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: an entirely different way. 140 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 141 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: He undercut the path, the route, and I, you know, 142 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: I could have let him know farther out in front 143 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 5: instead of trying to give him a shot right here. 144 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 5: And you know that's that's you know, he did it. 145 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: He made a great break on the play. Just unfortunate 146 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: where we were in a field in the situation. 147 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to check it out on film just 148 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: one more time. 149 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 5: Just in my mind, there might have been another option 150 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: that we could have gotten gotten to. 151 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: Not good. 152 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: If I would have told you before the game one 153 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks would complete seventy seven percent of his 154 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: throws and have a one hundred and seventeen passer rating, 155 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have guessed. The undrafted career backup. 156 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: Not good. 157 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Again, some marriages need a lot of therapy. And I 158 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: think the Bears have to play it out for the 159 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: rest of the year and probably next year. And there 160 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: is a big arm that throw a DJ Moore. It 161 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: could be exciting, It is fun. There are moments he's talented. 162 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but the top tier quarterbacks in 163 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: this league all have something in common. Twelve yards and 164 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: under the laps Drake May it's it's easy. I mean, 165 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: it's just really easy looking some of this stuff is. 166 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be this difficult. 167 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: We've seen him to open the season. We've seen them 168 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: with extra time. It just looks all the time. And again, 169 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: first drive, he's one quarterback, rest of game he's another. 170 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: So he's coachable. 171 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: He listens, but you can't hold a hand, you can't babysit. 172 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: In this league. 173 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: At some point you're gonna have fourteen possessions twelve are 174 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: kind of on you. So I've said before, your eyes 175 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: don't lie. This is not ideal. I mean, and for 176 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: the record, Sean mcvayh chose Jared Goff and he moved 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: off him. Ben Johnson didn't choose Caleb. I'm not saying 178 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: there's resentment, but this is a timing rhythm coach. It's 179 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: not a timing and rhythm quarterback. You can win with 180 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: timing and rhythm. You can win Cam Newton got to 181 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You can win the other way. I think, 182 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: for consistency's sake, you gotta be more timing and rhythm 183 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: than just do it yourself. For the record, Jordan Love 184 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: can do the timing and rhythm, but Jordan Love also 185 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: sees the field. He does a lot of stuff on 186 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: his own. So does Mahomes. I mean, the more I 187 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,359 Speaker 1: watch Jordan Love, you know who I see? Patrick Mahomes. 188 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: That's what I see. I'm not saying he's Patrick Mahomes. 189 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: But when I looked at Andrew Luck, I said five 190 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: years ago, I'm like, Sam Darnold is like eighty percent 191 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck. He's not as good as Andrew Luck. 192 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: But when I watched Darnold come out. I said, it's 193 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck not as good when I watched Jordan 194 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Love's size movement arm can follow, coaching. 195 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 3: Can be good. Offscript, I see some. 196 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes, some mahomes with Caleb. I don't know exactly what 197 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I see. I don't I don't quite know the timing 198 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: and rhythm stuff. It said before, it's hard to quarterback 199 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: efficiently in the NFL, but it can't look too hard. 200 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: Like marriage isn't easy. But if you're in therapy twice 201 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: a week, it probably isn't gonna work. 202 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 7: Right. 203 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: So that's where we are today, j Mack. Once again, 204 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: here come the Packers surging head it to a Super 205 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Bowl in Chicago's trying to figure out offense. 206 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: You know, I saw an interesting stat that Kyle Hamilton, 207 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 4: the great safety for the Ravens, was in the box 208 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: on sixty one percent of snaps. So the Ravens said, 209 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: we're gonna take away the run game. Caleb, can you 210 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 4: beat us? 211 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 212 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 4: He couldn't. He could not do it. You take away 213 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: the run game. And by the way, I think you're 214 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: letting the Bears defense off the hook, Colin. They let 215 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: Tyler Huntley get the Ravens of the red zone six times. 216 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you know what it is the 217 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Bears defense. It's a little fools goal. Yes, it's a 218 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: takeaway defense, right, Okay, so when they take the ball 219 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: away they go on a four game winning street. But 220 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: when they don't take it away, they give up like 221 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: six yards of play. And you saw it time and 222 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: time again. Is I mean we got to give credit 223 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: to Tyler Huntley. I know he's a backup and he's 224 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: not a star, and he doesn't he's in our business. 225 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: We're not going to talk a lot about him. That 226 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: is exactly what I want. I'm a backup quarterback. That 227 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: was one of the most impressive backup quarterback performances. I mean, 228 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: if you didn't know who he was, you'd be like, oh, 229 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. You can win playoff games with 230 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: that guy. 231 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: I think the Bears were down a few guys in 232 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: the secondary, so like things lined. 233 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: Up, the whole league is down Peape. That's the problem. 234 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: You know. 235 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: Listen, my Jets put up five hundred yards of offense 236 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: and Garrett Wilson didn't even play. 237 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: It's like, what where did that come from? Yeah? 238 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: All right, the world's best football team, the Kansas City 239 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs play tonight. We have Game three of the World 240 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: Series tonight. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of Next Hour 241 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: at Matt Hassel met Carson Palmer may have to call 242 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: on Nick Wright. 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All you gotta do search Covino and Rich 254 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 8: FSR on YouTube again, go to YouTube search Covino en 255 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 8: Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, Subscribe, hit that 256 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 8: thumbs up, icon coment away. 257 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Colin Right, Colin Wrong, Next Hour. Yes, it's 258 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: it's been brought to my attention that I went four 259 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: and one with a blazing five for the third week 260 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: in a row. 261 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: Let's not brag about it. 262 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: Let's just put our head down and try to get 263 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: a five and oh week whatever. So Denver, Dallas, Mike Rabel, 264 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton are proving even if you're saddled with 265 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: dead cap money from Hell or an average roster New England, 266 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't take that long to win in this league. 267 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: It really doesn't. You watch that game. Denver's got a 268 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: lot of really good players, and a lot of them 269 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: Sean Payton has his fingerprint on Denver's got four different receivers, 270 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: won a rookie from Illinois, all long, all run well, all. 271 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: Can catch, and two excellent shifty running backs. For the critics, 272 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: the mock draft critics that criticized the RJ. Harvey picking 273 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: the second round, Eh, he's good too. Bo Nix is young. 274 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: He can uncork ugly ones, but sixteen seventeen yards and under, 275 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: he's pretty surgical man, and he's got weapons everywhere. Don't 276 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: put this on DAK. There's nothing DAC could do. There 277 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: were guys wide open. They were missing their top three safeties. 278 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: That's not an excuse. Their defense isn't good with safeties. 279 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: But I've never understood the critics of Sean Payton. The 280 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Saints were a disaster when he got their worst franchise 281 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: in the league. They made the playoffs the following year. 282 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Denver's got the worst dead cap money situation 283 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: in the history. 284 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: Of the league. 285 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: This roster is stacked on guys that Sean Payton said, 286 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: get me that guy from a directional school receivers, running backs. 287 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean they got JK. Dobbins that cost him a 288 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: kitcat bar. They paid nothing. He's now third in the 289 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: NFL in rushing. 290 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: JK. 291 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: Dobbins, who, for the record, is a great guy. Easy 292 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to root for it because of the injuries. But here 293 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: here's the other thing. Pitchburg pays a fortune for defense, 294 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and they can't stop any good quarterbacks. The Denver offense 295 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: bottom third of the NFL in payroll. They can't spend 296 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: any money on it because of Russell Wilson's contract. 297 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: They're not paying for this offense yet. 298 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm just I love bo Nicks, but 299 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: this Denver Broncos have Sean Payton written all over it. 300 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: And some of these guys, it could have been Bill 301 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Walsh or Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells or Mike Vrabel 302 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: and McVeigh and Andy Reid and Sean Payton. These guys 303 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: can right the ship much faster. The first year. I 304 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: don't care if you're Jimmy or Sean Payton. The first 305 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: year can be bumpy. But Sean's one of those rare 306 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: guys that knows personnel. You could put him watching film 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: like a GM. 308 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 3: He knows it. 309 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: His footprint is all over this roster. It's almost like 310 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. If you watch a movie, I always looked 311 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: not at the actors. First thing I always look for 312 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: in a movie is who's the director, Scorsese, Spielberg, Christopher Nolan, 313 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: the Cohen Brothers. Doesn't mean it's gonna win an Oscar. 314 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean Rabel and Sean Payton gonna win a 315 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But you know the movie's good made, smartly constructed, thoughtful. 316 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: There's nothing Dallas can do. There's nothing Dak can do 317 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Denver's roster. I said this a couple of years ago 318 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: about Indianapolis. Everybody was banging on Chris Vaalor of the GM, 319 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: and I said, are you watching the same team? 320 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: I am? 321 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: I said that last year Coltster got players everywhere. They 322 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: just have to have a competent quarterback. This Denver roster. 323 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not Philadelphia. Man, they got dudes everywhere. I 324 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: mean that receiving core. You can go Courtland's, you can 325 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: go Franklin, the kid out of Illinois, you go Mims, Harvey, Dobbins, 326 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: and Bonnicks. Underneath stuff, especially, I think Sean Payton is 327 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: coaching them for the playoffs. He is throwing the ball 328 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: down the field more because he wants this team to 329 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: be able if they go in against the Mahomes or 330 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: a Josh Allen or a Herbert and they trail and 331 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: they have. 332 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: To play catch up. I'm watching it. 333 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel like Sean Payton has got his eyes way 334 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: down on the horizon that he is forcing Bonnicks get 335 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: it downfield, throw the ball downfield. But I love the roster, 336 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: and I mean, I'm watching that and there's just Dallas 337 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: just didn't have the folks. Sean Payton after I wanted to. 338 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 9: Keeping last you know that we went into the game. 339 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 9: We recognized the injuries. There's a lot of injuries, you know, 340 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 9: on our team throughout the league that was unimportant to us. 341 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 9: I just didn't think they could keep up with what 342 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 9: we were doing. So I had said to the defense periodically, 343 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 9: can you guys keep up with us, And yeah, I 344 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 9: thought it was a pretty one sided game. 345 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: I know, you know, I mean, Sean is so blunt 346 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: and so honest. But there's just certain teams you just 347 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: watch them on television and you're like, I mean, how many. 348 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: Receivers do they have? 349 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Uh? 350 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: Dack did everything he could do. 351 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: But when your trail, big, high altitude, Dallas has never 352 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: played well against Denver, you got to go back to 353 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman the last time Dallas. I feel, honestly, it 354 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: feels like that's the last time Dallas beat him. Denver's 355 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: had their number forever, and yesterday it wasn't particularly close. 356 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: Jmack with the. 357 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: News, No turns, this is the headline news. 358 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: All right, call, Let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles and 359 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley. He finally he had a good game, peeling 360 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: off a sixty five yard touchdown run on the second play. 361 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: From scrimmage, finished with over. 362 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: One hundred yards for the first time of the season rushing. Obviously, 363 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: sixty five yard was a big chunk of that, but 364 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 4: he did have one hundred and seventy four total yards 365 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. Now, interestingly, Colin, his backup Tank Biggsby came on, 366 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: sae Quon kind of left early with an injury, and 367 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: Tank Bigsby went for over one hundred and nine carries. 368 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: I think that's interesting. Just file that away. 369 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: But here is Saquon talking about his best game of 370 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: the season. 371 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 10: A lot of you if I said I didn't, it 372 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 10: wasn't like finally, it's always great to win. It's always 373 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 10: great to be a division viral. You know, for sure, 374 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 10: we definitely saw how they celebrated and you know when 375 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 10: they beat us last time. But I think one of 376 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 10: my favorite things coach Sirianni says is, you know the 377 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 10: verrenge mindset that lasts for five minutes and then it 378 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 10: goes back to your habits. 379 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: Did you notice that it was yards per play total yards? 380 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: It was easily the best Eagles offensive performance and AJ 381 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Brown did not play. 382 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they tweaked some stuff, Colin. They went heavy, 383 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: they went with three tight end sets. Remember McVeigh tweaked 384 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: things in London with the Rams. 385 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: Eagles tweaking. 386 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: They went six. 387 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: Offensive linemen a lot in this game, sof new look, 388 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: and they just kind of bullied the Giants at the 389 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. I thought about that. Driving into work 390 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: this morning, I'm like, I wonder if Colin's gonna say, hey, 391 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: they can trade AJ Brown. Look, they can live without him. 392 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: It's just one game. It's the largely dumpster fire Giants. 393 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: I don't know that I would make any sweeping conclusions. 394 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: Is Johan Dotson going to be mossing people all season? 395 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: Like that's not happening. 396 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Bro, come on, I will say this, though you're New England, 397 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at Kansas City, you know, you're looking at Herbert, 398 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: You're looking at Josh Allen, and you got young Drake 399 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: May and you're like, well, Vrabel had AJ Brown in 400 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Carushton when he left, and New England's good 401 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: and they've got a bunch of good b and number 402 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: two and three receivers. Boy, it really helped have a 403 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: physical presence on the perimeter with Drake May, who you're 404 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: not paying anything for the next four years, you know, 405 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: and you're gonna ship him to the other conference that 406 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: if you're Philadelphia, you're like, well, you're not gonna get 407 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. He's not gonna come back and 408 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: burn me because you're not getting through Kansas City and 409 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. 410 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 2: Probably not. 411 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: But so the counter would be, why would you mess 412 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: with the great juju that. 413 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: The Patriots have? 414 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 7: Right now? 415 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: Everything's kumba ya. There's no alpha like wide Receiver being 416 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: a diva. Do you want to bring that into your 417 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 4: locker room? 418 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: Now? 419 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: Your counter, of course is Drabel knows him, he's gonna 420 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: fall in line. 421 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a little risky. 422 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: But I don't really get no biscuit. I don't think 423 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: AJ Brown is a bad guy. 424 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: I've said this about Oh no, no, no, I'm not 425 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: saying he's a bad guy. 426 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: No no. 427 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: But I'm saying is there are receivers Stefan Diggs AJ 428 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: Brown For a couple of years, no big deal, and 429 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: then the drama. I was told a year ago that 430 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: there was drama in the locker room. I said it, 431 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: and I got a lot of pushback from Eagle fans. 432 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: This thing's been happening for a year. But you know, 433 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: you win the Super Bowl, everybody's quiet, it's all great. 434 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden you have struggles. But it's 435 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: not a coincidence. And I remember when Dez Bryant and 436 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott him into the league des is great. Dez 437 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: was a touchdown magnet, but in the end they did 438 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: not want Dez getting in Dak's headspace. Every time he 439 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: went to the sideline, they moved off. Dak flourished. This 440 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: is one of these things. This Jalen is an adult. 441 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: He's not going to deal with a drama. He didn't 442 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: have any interest. He just wants to win an AJ 443 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: Brown And I'm not criticizing him for us. 444 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: He's a Hall of Famer. He wants touches and the 445 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: offense is better without him. 446 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: Is he a hall I mean hall of Famer. 447 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean he's a Hall of Fame talent. He's a 448 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. 449 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. 450 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. 451 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: Let's move to college football. Colin not so surprising. Brian 452 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: Kelly gets run out of LSU this weekend. 453 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: It's funny. 454 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: I was watching this game Saturday. 455 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: It's eighteen fourteen LSU, and then I start to get 456 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: ready for a Halloween party and take a shower and stuff. 457 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: I come out and Texas A and M scores like 458 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: twenty one in a row, and at that point You're like, 459 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: WHOA this is at LSU. Brian Kelly seems to have 460 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 4: lost the locker room, he lost the boosters, and now 461 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: he's done Colin. It's over another huge buyout. I think 462 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 4: the number was fifty three million dollars. Was his buyout 463 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: larger than James Franklin. 464 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I had a coach tell me last year. Had the 465 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: coach said, listen, he's mid sixties, that he's a Midwest guy. 466 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: He was ready to retire. He sniffed the NFL about 467 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: five years ago, and the NFL was not interested. He 468 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: was interested. He was kind of done with college. And 469 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: then a company comes up called LSU Football and says, yeah, 470 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: here's you know, here's seventy eighty ninety million dollars. And 471 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: he goes to his family and says, you know, we 472 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: can get that second. 473 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: Vacation home, second, you mean fifth, you know? 474 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean So the reality is this happens a lot 475 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: where he'd in a success three different programs. He had 476 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: his pensions, he had his money. He sniffed NFL at 477 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They weren't interested. He was ready to shut 478 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: it down, and then LSU came with a bag of money, 479 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: and he said went to his family and said, guys, 480 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: what do you think? And they're like go for a dad. 481 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: It never felt like I love. I think Brian's a 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: great coach, but this never felt like a great fit. 483 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: He's a Midwestern guy, and I just think I think 484 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: he would have fit at Penn State today better than LSU. 485 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: I think he'd fit at Wisconsin. But he doesn't feel 486 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: like USC. He doesn't feel like LSU. There are Miami, 487 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: there are these jobs that they feel like a certain 488 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: personality works. Miami Hurricanes. I think their current coach feels 489 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: like the Hurricanes USC LSU. It is very unique part 490 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: of the country. I think, I think he's a good coach. 491 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: I think he took the job for the wrong reasons, 492 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: and the reason was a bag full of. 493 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: Cash with a good football mind, not a great human being. 494 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: Colin I was. 495 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: I know a couple of quarterbacks personally who have friends 496 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 4: with they have experiences with Brian Kelly, and I'm just 497 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 4: telling you he is not the nicest, warmest individual. 498 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: Well, he's not a warm, cuddly guy. Generationally, I don't 499 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make judgments on him. I just think generationally, 500 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: the older coaches are louder, They bark their I mean, 501 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: Nick Shaban wins, but. 502 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: Steven's not perceived as a jerk. Okay, he gets a 503 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: very animator on the sideline. 504 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: He'll say tough stuff, but he has been loved by 505 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 4: his players. Go talk to some former Brian Kelly players. 506 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: The stories are going to start to come out from LSU. 507 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: They don't like him. 508 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, he's not a nice guy, Colin. 509 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: And when you're not nice and you lose, they're going 510 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: to run you out of town. I don't even know 511 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 4: if he surfaces again. Based on what you're saying is 512 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: that he was ready to shut it down. 513 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: I think he's ready to golf and hang out. He 514 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: could go to a mid major and clean up and dominate. 515 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that he needs that. He's 516 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: got one hundred million in the bank. He's not coming back. 517 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: By the way, which is a better job LSU or 518 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: Penn State ls. Have you seen the national rankings? Eight 519 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: teams from the SEC in the top twenty. You know 520 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: how hard it is to win at LSU. 521 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Well, some people are afraid of competition. LSU's got more 522 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: players within an hour of drive of that university than 523 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Penn State has in the state. 524 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, I'll. 525 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 4: Take Penn State and I'll see in the playoff if 526 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: you take LSU and enjoy seven and five and every 527 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: other year. 528 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: Ed Orgeron one of Natty at LSU. Nick Saban won 529 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: a Natty at LSU. It's less Miles didn't less Miles 530 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: one of Natty at LSU. Okay, where all the where 531 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: all the trophies up up north? 532 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: The times they have changed the question. 533 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: The question is is LSU a better job than Florida? 534 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: Oh h that's interesting. 535 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I would take Florida because I've been to 536 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Gainesville four or five times. I really like Gainesville, the town. 537 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: I think Gainesville is the most underrated college now in 538 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the country. And it's not like Gainesville is. It's just 539 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: like it's more mainstream. LSU is its own thing, like 540 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: it's its own thing, and it's all about fit. I 541 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: think a million people could fit it. 542 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: I think you could win at Penn State instantly, and 543 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: you go to LSU Colin every year. The schedule has 544 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: like seven landmines. You have to get Joe Burrow at 545 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: quarterback if you want to go win. 546 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: Good luck. 547 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: Final story Major League Baseball Colin the fun weekend of 548 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: the World Series, Dodgers lost Game one badly. Then they 549 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: bounced back thanks to Yamamoto with a classic unbelievable all 550 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: nine innings allowed one one on four hits with eight k's. 551 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: Here's your boy. Dave Roberts on his. 552 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 11: Ass outstanding, uber competitive special. Yeah, he was just locked 553 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 11: in tonight. 554 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 7: You know. 555 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 11: It is one of those things he said before the series, 556 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 11: losing is not an option, and he had that look tonight. 557 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something. 558 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: The Yankees and the Dodgers both bid on Yoshi. So 559 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the Yankee said, we'll give you three hundred million dollars 560 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers said we'll give you three hundred and 561 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: thirty five million. I'm gonna make an argument that that 562 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Game two performance and he would pitch I think a 563 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: Game six or a Game seven, but that game, okay, 564 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: he'd pitch Game six. So that performance and the performance 565 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: against Milwaukee, there's an argument that he paid about half 566 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: of that thirty five million dollars total contract on those 567 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: two performances. Man, it's amazing to watch his temperament. He 568 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: was in total control. Fifth, six, seven, eight, ninth, and 569 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: that is a hard lineup. I mean, at that lineup. 570 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: In Game one, they had a nine run inning. 571 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know who's more locked in right now, 572 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: Yamamoto in the last month or you with blazing five 573 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 4: picks with three straightforward ones. 574 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, Yamamo. I mean he was lights out. 575 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: Oh Game three tonight on Fox. My Dodgers in five, 576 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: still standing, and we got Otani coming up in game four, 577 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: so lock it up. 578 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think Toronto's gonna take one 579 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: of the next two games. I think the Jay's are 580 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: a handful, but they're just I mean, this sport. 581 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: In the end. 582 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: What I think is fascinating is the Yankees and Dodgers 583 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: both made they both made an offer, and the Dodgers 584 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: upped it. And when you picked the right person in 585 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: pro sports, you know, Jerry Jones always had the great 586 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: line every time I've been you know, try to get 587 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: a bargain. That's exactly what I got. A bargain is 588 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: that this guy is top of the market to go 589 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: in to Toronto with that performance. 590 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: I sat and watched every pitch. I was just like, wow, do. 591 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: You remember the consternation from people around the league that 592 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: Dodgers gave him? 593 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: How much money? 594 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 12: What is this guy proven to get that kind of money. 595 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 12: What what some teams know? What was Kirk Shilling at 596 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 12: the top of his game? Verlander at the top of 597 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 12: his game? Kersh Off the top of his game. When 598 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 12: you get the superstar, they make everything around them. 599 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to go to the bullpen. The bullpen 600 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: gets a night off. Now is totally fresh for game three? 601 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: J Mack with the news. 602 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the 603 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: Herd Line news Man. 604 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that Kansas City Chiefs, Dodgers Jays tonight. 605 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: This is a really, really good time of the year. 606 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 607 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: at noon Easter nine am Pacific. 608 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: Start Saturday strong with the undefeated, top rank Ohio's date 609 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: Buckeyes as they face off against rivals Penn State at 610 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: the Shoe. It all starts at ten am Eastern with 611 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: Big Noon kickoff live from Columbus. Then it's Penn State 612 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: Ohio State Big Noon Saturday only on Fox. 613 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Can we just get to the Indiana Ohio State game? 614 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Can we just get to that? I Mean, it's unbelievable 615 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: what's happening in Indiana. I mean it really is like 616 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: they bring in this older coach. Now one of these fancy, 617 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: snazzy hipsters, this older guy from like James Madison, and 618 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: he comes in and the first year you're like, well 619 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Now you're like, what am I watching? 620 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: They're bulldozing. I've watched the first half of UCLA in Indiana, 621 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, because I thought Indiana was good. 622 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: I mean that game wasn't competitive. 623 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: That is coaching and personnel, And you all tell me 624 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: how great the SEC is. I think Indiana, it's Indiana 625 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: better than anybody except Ohio State in the Big Ten. 626 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: And it's Indiana better than everybody in the SEC. 627 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Texas A and M's pretty good with a pretty interesting quarterback. 628 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: But the fact that Indiana now is a football power? 629 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 3: What what? 630 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Huh? 631 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 632 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that even though the game was 633 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, he had to use a silent count because 634 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: there were so many Packer fans at the game, which 635 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: is pretty remarkable. 636 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Two things are true. 637 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Aaron has been very good for the Steelers offense, and 638 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay made the smart move going with Jordan Love 639 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: over Aaron Rodgers. 640 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: They're both true. 641 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: I think Aaron now realizes what we had said before 642 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: he went to Pittsburgh. The Jets and the Steelers. It's 643 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: the same issues defense. First, one's got better ownership, but 644 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's got issues too. 645 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: They just have a better infrastructure and ownership. 646 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: But both the Jets Jets feel loose and outdated, and 647 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: so do the Steelers. So I think Aaron's doing as 648 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: much as a forty one year old quarterback can with 649 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: a defensive coach and a team that on fourth and 650 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: three either punts or kicksfield goals. They're not a current franchise. 651 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: So that's second half Steeler defense. That's why Pittsburgh lost. 652 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: I put none of it, none of it on Aaron Rodgers. 653 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay almost had three hundred yards in the second half. 654 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: So if you look at the three losses for the Steelers, 655 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: you know they're giving up thirty plus points, which would 656 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: be fine if you had a bunch of rookies or 657 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: you weren't spending any money on defense, but Pittsburgh is. 658 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: So Aaron has the second most touchdown passes in the league, 659 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: completing sixty eight percent of his throws, one hundred and 660 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: four passer rating and sixteen total touchdowns. You would have 661 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: taken that a thousand out of a thousand times, if 662 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: I told you, where is Aaron after seven or eight weeks? 663 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: So Aaron, don't forget this. Aaron's doing all he could 664 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: do with the Jets and the Steelers. The Steelers are 665 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: just a better franchise, but they were bad fits. That's 666 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: why I kept saying, over and over, just go to Minnesota. 667 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Aaron came out and said, I'll take 668 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: ten million bucks. I think Aaron wanted the Vikings. I 669 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: think the Vikings wanted Sam Darnald, and once they weren't 670 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: willing to pay more money for Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold. 671 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings had three choices Donald won Jones 672 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: to JJ McCarthy three. Aaron was just a fourth choice. 673 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of that's because Aaron's been prickly and 674 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: Aaron sometimes, in my opinion, lacks a little self awareness 675 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: considering how smart he is. You bring in Aaron, it 676 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: feels like you're bringing in stuff to the locker room. 677 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Although I think he's been great in Pittsburgh, he's been great, 678 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: I am. I think he's been tremendous, but he knows 679 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: that he's too smart not to know it. Minnesota is 680 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: an offensive culture. The Rams, the Chiefs, the Broncos, now 681 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: they're just they're different. So I don't think anything any 682 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: of this is on Aaron right now. 683 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: This morning I looked it up. The Steelers have the thirty. 684 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: Second best pass defense in this league, meaning the Dallas 685 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys pass defense looks at the Steelers and goes, no, 686 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: thank you. 687 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: That's embarrassing. We know we are not the Steelers pass defense. 688 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: So and last night Packer fans, Aaron talked about how 689 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: many of them showed up. 690 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: Heard that chant for eighteen years. 691 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 3: So Packer fans travel really well. First time in a 692 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: while I've used silent count for a home game. That's 693 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: a credit to those Packer fans. 694 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: So it's funny. And I know I'm speaking to some 695 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: of you out there. Have you ever taken a job 696 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: and you kind of know five or six months into 697 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: the job or in Aaron's case, seven or eight games. Yeah, 698 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: I wish, I wish, I wish the other one would 699 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: have opened up. And I think that's where he's at. 700 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: I think Aaron's too smart not to know the truth. 701 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: This is the Jets, but a more polished, refined version 702 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: with a better coach. Steelers are the Jets but better? Right, 703 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: So Jerry Jones, listen, you watched Micah last night and 704 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: you're like, man, did they steal Micah from Dallas? 705 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: No, they didn't. Didn't steal him. 706 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: Cowboys got two first round picks and they don't need 707 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback, meaning those first round picks next year they 708 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: could get another third, fourth, fifth, sixth. When they made 709 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: that Micah deal, it was always going to look great 710 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: for the Packers for the first six months. Get to April, 711 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be in a good space. But 712 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said he he is skeptical that if Micah 713 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: was still a Cowboy, the defense would be great. 714 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 7: If I saw a proposition for us to help this team, well, 715 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 7: no matter what this score was today, then I would 716 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 7: look at it on the merits. And I'm not trying 717 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 7: to be cute, but that's why you'd go get him, 718 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 7: is that you'd think it could help you defense. One 719 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 7: player we one player away on defense. 720 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: I think we're not. 721 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: I've been critical of Jerry Jones, He's one hundred percent right. 722 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay didn't steal Micah. They got two first round picks, 723 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: and Micah still to this day, has never been a 724 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: great playoff Hedge Rusher, I don't steal anything. This has 725 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: always been the Shack Kobe deal, and I remember having 726 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: a source in the Lakers building. They're like, we love 727 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: them both, but if we have to make a choice, 728 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: we know it's gonna look awful for a couple of 729 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: years until we get Kobe the right running mate. They 730 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: did eventually in dassoul and one two titles, but they 731 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: knew initially it was going to look really bad for 732 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: the Lakers because Shack was going to a championship ready team. 733 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: Once he arrived, the Cowboys know Micah going to Green 734 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: Bay is a championship ready team. Dallas is not. The 735 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: three things that matter in this league quarterback won one, 736 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: coach two and flexibility three. Dallas had no flexibility. None 737 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: could still argue they don't have the right coach. They 738 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: got the quarterback, but they had no flexibility. Green Bay 739 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: had the right coach and quarterback, and they had flexibility, 740 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: so they said we'll take Mike and pay for him. 741 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: Dallas had so little flexibility they couldn't afford Derreck Henry 742 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: for eight million dollars two years ago when they had 743 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: the worst running back room in the league. I couldn't 744 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: afford it. Jerry's a deal maker. Jerry's like I got 745 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: my quarterback and I got my star receiver. It's an 746 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: offensive league. I'll go find an edge rusher. You know what, 747 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: He's right, Go look at this April draft. There's like 748 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: six edge rushers in the first round and Dallas has 749 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: two picks, and Dallas doesn't need a quarterback. So Dallas 750 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: is gonna go get an edge rusher and probably a 751 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: corner with the first two picks, solving two issues. So 752 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: Micah to me is Shack when he went to the heat, 753 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you gotta eat it dirt sandwich for 754 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: a year and a half. You're gonna get crushed by everybody. 755 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to make deals as a company 756 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: or as a pro sports team, and you know for 757 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: a year you're gonna get shelld But you can't sit 758 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. 759 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: You know not, you don't. 760 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: I always say this about college football teams when they 761 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: hire coaches. 762 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: Don't worry about winning the press conference. Go get the 763 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 3: damn right coach. 764 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: Stop winning about winning the press conference winning, Now hire 765 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: the coach that wins. 766 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: For a decade. That's the key, LSU. 767 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: Don't worry about the press conference the day after, worry 768 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: about beating Kirby Smart for ten years. 769 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: Colin right, Colin wrong neck,