WEBVTT - How to ruin a holiday party

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been invited to a energy and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of try.

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<v Speaker 2>Gamsay media charge lash.

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<v Speaker 3>Rory. Have you ever overdone it at a holiday party?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean too many Dixie cups of glog?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like I've probably overdone it at

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<v Speaker 1>any party. It doesn't have to be holiday themed nor related.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, for sure, I've definitely gone a little

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<v Speaker 1>too deep if we're talking about the sauce.

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<v Speaker 3>Has anyone ever made you uncomfortable, like by grabbing you

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<v Speaker 3>under the mistletoe? No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, people avoid me because I've by then, I've already

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<v Speaker 1>by then I've gone a little too big, so they

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<v Speaker 1>avoid me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just something about company Christmas parties that makes people

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<v Speaker 3>go loco. Entire Reddit threads are dedicated to party nightmares,

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<v Speaker 3>and today we have two stories of people who partied

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<v Speaker 3>so had the police, and in one case, the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>government had to swoop in.

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<v Speaker 1>What oh, I already love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get festive but safely after the break. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 3>welcome back to crime lest the podcast that celebrates the

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<v Speaker 3>amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals and sometimes serves

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<v Speaker 3>as an arbiter for proper behavior. At company functions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joshine and I am Rory Scofel, here to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>these numb skull idiots with you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's holiday season, Rory. Can you feel it in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I do actually feel it in the year, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to interpret because holiday season starts in like late

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<v Speaker 1>September now, so you don't There will be a time

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<v Speaker 1>before you and I leave this earth, Josh where Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>does become year round.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true. It's like Halloween starts in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of summer, and as soon as they put away the

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<v Speaker 3>candy that Christmas trees come out right.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving is really becoming an afterthought wedged between two major

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<v Speaker 1>money makers.

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<v Speaker 3>Attending any holiday parties you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, I hope so, I hope I get the invite.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hate to find out that I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much again, I'd hate to get confirmation that I

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<v Speaker 1>am indeed too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd like to consider today's stories as cautionary tales

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<v Speaker 3>about what happens when you do overdo it at a

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<v Speaker 3>holiday functions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, lest you.

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<v Speaker 3>Ruin Christmas or worse, get hr the police or possibly

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese government involved. So let's start with an important

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<v Speaker 3>question that may seem a little bit random. What's your

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<v Speaker 3>go to Taco Bell order? Great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't been at Taco Bell in a super long time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I always did the the crunchy gordita. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I did. Yeah. Can I I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is sidestepping where you're trying to go right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but can I just say everything at Taco Bell, while

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<v Speaker 1>we all know is not great for you, is very delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always wondered why Mexican restaurants don't pick a

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<v Speaker 1>couple things off the Taco Bell menu that are clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not even authentically Mexican and just make the fresh version

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I feel like that would crush. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say. That's my pitch to the Sharks.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I completely agree. Well, I asked you that because that's

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<v Speaker 3>the scene of the crime for our first story of

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<v Speaker 3>holiday party is gone awry.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice setting. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty two, a woman named Alana Betiam was

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<v Speaker 3>working as a cashier at a Taco Bell in San Pedro, California,

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<v Speaker 3>which is near Long Beach, Okay. She'd work there less

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<v Speaker 3>than a year, and she was invited to the location's

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<v Speaker 3>holiday party. I mean, the first holiday party at your

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<v Speaker 3>new workplace is an important milestone professionally. I think helps

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<v Speaker 3>build camaraderie with your co workers during a stressful time

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<v Speaker 3>of year and shows you can hang right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to double check. So you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday party at with the Taco bell crew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I honest, I feel like a jerk for not even

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that all places of employment would probably have a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday party.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well's fair, you might feel so corporate.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's a chain restaurant, right, Like how they're not

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<v Speaker 3>good because it's open twenty four hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, twenty four hours? When do they have time to party?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess holiday parties just feel so like white collar corporate.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, You're right, Josh, You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Alana was about to find out that she indeed

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<v Speaker 3>could not hang. Oh, so her manager, a woman named

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<v Speaker 3>Lydia Rouiz and I'd name her because she later shows

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<v Speaker 3>up in court documents, invites the whole staff to this

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<v Speaker 3>party to truly live mos and encourage everyone to bring

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<v Speaker 3>food for a pot luck buffet. You have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>where this is going, so you're in for a real treat.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like that, you said, live Moss, So like man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's applying it. He really does love tacout.

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<v Speaker 3>Alana believed it was a corporate approved event, seeing that

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<v Speaker 3>they were using the actual restaurant as the venue, and

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<v Speaker 3>she invited her sister and her sister's partner. So on

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<v Speaker 3>December eighteenth, Lana and her guests arrive at Taco Bell.

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<v Speaker 3>She brings guacamoli for the potluck classic. I'm assuming they

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<v Speaker 3>had plenty of chips on hand.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you would assume that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And just side note, I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 3>would bring Mexican food to the Taco Bell Christmas party.

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<v Speaker 3>I might go a little bit crazy and bring I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>Food, maybe a pizza. I was thinking Italian too. I'd big,

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<v Speaker 1>I bring like a Pepperoni pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is our scene, Alana, her sister, her sister's partner,

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<v Speaker 3>and a big old bowl of guac rolling up to

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<v Speaker 3>Taco Bell for a party that's about to give a

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<v Speaker 3>whole new meaning to the current corporate slogan. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what that is? No think outside the buns?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So first, this was great the suspense, Josh. The

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<v Speaker 3>first thing they noticed is that the windows are all

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<v Speaker 3>covered in wrapping paper, which, okay, not that weird. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a Christmas party. Let's just wrap the whole restaurant. But

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<v Speaker 3>when they get inside, Alana notices that the security cameras

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<v Speaker 3>are also wrapped in wrapping papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that is pretty I mean, even if nothing

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<v Speaker 3>untoward is going to happen, that's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want someone to get an HRVI.

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<v Speaker 1>You do know any big brother watching you? Not at

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas party? Come on?

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<v Speaker 3>According to court documents, yes, that's where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>Lydia provided the booth for the party. She sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>a good manager. She just wants everyone to have a

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<v Speaker 3>baja blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm team Lydia. So far, so far, so far, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Yeah, So Alana spends most of the party socializing

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<v Speaker 3>with their coworkers outside the restaurant. This being California, the

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<v Speaker 3>nights are mild, there's plenty of space in the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I interrupt with a question? H yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you do. You already know how many people are at

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<v Speaker 1>this party? And if not, what are you picturing? But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you do already know, I actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know the number, and I feel like a bad

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<v Speaker 3>journalist for not doing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't maybe it's not even given. But for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, I'm finding funny. It funnier in my head

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm picturing that it's like seven people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, because how many people are working at a

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<v Speaker 3>taco belt and given time, it's like three.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't know what a staff would be, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely way under and I'm even and I mean guests,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean outsiders have been brought in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you. I'm picturing, yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple, yeah, on the high side, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>you think twenty two three shifts, they each have two

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<v Speaker 3>or three people three shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>And also everyone brought one to two people. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know the number, but I think i'm

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<v Speaker 3>guessing it's not We're not talking hundreds of people that

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<v Speaker 3>would be a taco bell. So she's hanging out in

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<v Speaker 3>the parking lot. Around midnight, she decides to pop back

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<v Speaker 3>inside see how things are going, and this is when

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<v Speaker 3>things take a turn rory. Yes, because when she opened

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<v Speaker 3>the door, she did not see her fellow employees giggling

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<v Speaker 3>over the glock bowle. She saw her coworker Jonathan having

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<v Speaker 3>sex with his wife in front of everyone. Huh, and

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<v Speaker 3>his wife was kissing Taco Belt manager Lydia, as well

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<v Speaker 3>as another coworker named Adriana. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, so

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<v Speaker 3>lapping paper on the security cameras makes more sense now, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, yes, Already wondering like, so did people

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<v Speaker 3>know in advance? This is where it was headed? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't feel like they needed to tell Alana?

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many like why, yeah, literally, what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said? If you know that's gonna be the theme

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<v Speaker 1>of the party, do you you don't double check with everyone? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>You cool with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Just bring some bring something for the poplock roar.

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<v Speaker 1>Also also, so far what you've said about the sexual

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<v Speaker 1>interaction wildly legal. Yes, no need to do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Bell no need to So after what I'm assuming with.

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<v Speaker 3>Some very uncomfortable eye contact, Alana runs outside. She has

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<v Speaker 3>quote shocked, disgusted, and outraged, according to court documents, which

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<v Speaker 3>is ironic because that's how I felt when they took

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<v Speaker 3>Mexican pizza off the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I used to get Mexican pizza and every single

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<v Speaker 1>time was disappointed because I thought, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I just wanted more of a pizza type vibe

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. Well, Alana's outside, she shocked, she's disgusted. A short

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<v Speaker 3>time later, Jonathan emerges after making sweet love to his

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<v Speaker 3>wife and the boss and his coworker. Yeah, which made

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<v Speaker 3>Alana think it was safe to go back inside and

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<v Speaker 3>rescue her guacamole bul.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, Oh she cares about the guak bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I might have left it at this stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey what a Yeah, I don't think I'm sticking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I want that back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. Well wait till you hear our next twist rory.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you think she walked in on this time?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like sex is still it's sex

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<v Speaker 1>or drugs. I think it's still sex. I think just

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<v Speaker 1>because Jonathan is tapped out doesn't mean everybody's ready to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Alana, when she goes back in, she spots her

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<v Speaker 3>manager and Adriana, But now they're not having sex. They're barfing.

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<v Speaker 3>One is bent over a trash can and the other

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<v Speaker 3>was puking into the guacamole bowl. Okay, yeah, so they

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<v Speaker 3>maybe got a little bit out of hand. They drank

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<v Speaker 3>too much, the sex maybe got a little vigorous, and

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<v Speaker 3>they got the spins. I'm not sure what happened. Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>we're now barfing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Jonathan needed some are too, he understood what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily, Alanna's able to de escalate the situation, probably by

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<v Speaker 3>running away, which is what I would have done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly probably what I would have done the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I walked in and realized my company party was

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<v Speaker 3>a weird orgy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I if I walked in and saw it was

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<v Speaker 1>a weird orgy, I think I'm probably grabbing the guac

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<v Speaker 1>bul right then, you know what I mean, Like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get the guak bul home safe.

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<v Speaker 3>And your sister and her partner like, so are Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Where were they? Were? They just in there like y'all

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<v Speaker 1>have weird parties. Your company's crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the sister's partner. Yeah, I must have been like.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what is what we wish?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 1>And Mary christ It just constantly trying to get caroling

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<v Speaker 1>going while the sex is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>So you may be wondering at this point, Josh, this

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<v Speaker 3>story is gross and uncomfortable, but the show is called crimeless,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm still not sure any crimes have been committed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think so. Well, I don't know on

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<v Speaker 1>company grounds, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hang in there, buddy, because two days after the party,

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<v Speaker 3>Alana files a complaint with the HR department. I can

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<v Speaker 3>only imagine the HR manager's reaction when this email comes in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and tako about corporate Yeah, I wonder what happened at

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<v Speaker 3>the San Pedro party.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, let's just check the cameras. Well, there's them

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping them, so we can't see anything, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's sign one something happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably just someone getting a little handsy. Let's see, oh dear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well I guess they wouldn't have any footage, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have their own idea.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all hearsay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's all hearsay.

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<v Speaker 3>So an investigation into the incident was launched. Lydia, Adriana,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jonathan were all subsequently fired, which feels I think appropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>But on December twenty second, Alana starts getting threats from

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<v Speaker 3>her coworkers. One text reads you've been running your mouth

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<v Speaker 3>for the longest, so run them hands, bitch, which I

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<v Speaker 3>don't totally understand. If I'm being honest, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>little menacing.

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<v Speaker 1>So run them hands. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>Another coworker called her names like a hoe and a slut,

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<v Speaker 3>which feels ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not, actually, there's a little bit of hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and threatened her family members. Someone even smashed her

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<v Speaker 3>car window in Okay. So, okay, now we have crimes

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<v Speaker 3>yep against property. I believe these are threats. Alana files

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<v Speaker 3>a police report about the broken window, reports the threats

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<v Speaker 3>to Taco Bell management, but instead of punishing the employees

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<v Speaker 3>who have been threatening her, they transferred her to a

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<v Speaker 3>new location.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh very Catholic church of them got it so.

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<v Speaker 3>On Christmas Eve twenty twenty two, Alana, who just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>her new coworkers to like her guacamole, quit her job,

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<v Speaker 3>citing significant stress and anxiety from a hostile work environment.

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<v Speaker 3>About a year later, she filed a wrongful termination lawsuit

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<v Speaker 3>against the company that owned that location. In her complaint,

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<v Speaker 3>she alleged that she has suffered actual, consequential and incidental

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<v Speaker 3>financial losses and that her quote constructive termination violated anti

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<v Speaker 3>discrimination laws. I guess that means because they moved her

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<v Speaker 3>to a new location instead.

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<v Speaker 1>Of yes, I like this, I like what. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the justice that's being sought after.

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<v Speaker 3>But Taco about corporate issues a particularly mild statement about this.

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<v Speaker 3>It said, while we don't own or manage this location,

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<v Speaker 3>the franchisee who owns and operates the restaurant has shared

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<v Speaker 3>that they take these claims very seriously, so lawyered.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>After a few years in the court system, the case

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<v Speaker 3>is dismissed at Alana's request. My guess is she just

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<v Speaker 3>ready to move on with her life, Yeah, because these

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<v Speaker 3>things can take a long time in court. Or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>by then she'd reconsider her views on party threesomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now she's like, you know what, why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I jump in?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Once?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't I see what's going on closer?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also happy to report that, at least according to

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<v Speaker 3>a Google review posted six months ago, that lady of

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<v Speaker 3>the manager's back managing at that Taco bell Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and how do I know that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because some dude named Frank gave her customer service one star,

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<v Speaker 3>claiming that she has sideburns tattooed on her face and

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<v Speaker 3>that she lets kids smoke inside the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this is a fun taco but maybe maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back to team Lydia. Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the team Lydia?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm back to team Lydia. I mean tattooed sideburns,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of my face. That's great. I like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just people smoke. She lets kids smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, hey, guys, have fun. This is Taco Bell

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<v Speaker 1>Live moth. Are we thinking outside the bun yet? King's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna let you do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Frank, if he's Taco Bell Walls could talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, imagine what Frank is experiencing when he's like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is just seeing kids smoking? What the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is this?

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<v Speaker 3>But he looks up that location, it's like, oh dear, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Lydia's like, what can I get you? What do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>We have sex club here on Thursdays and definitely Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a special on seven Lighter Brutos and sex

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<v Speaker 3>Night on Thursday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like she should go back at Christmas and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, do they still have these parties? Just

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<v Speaker 1>like walk in like I knew it. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>back to the same fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I bet the next time you see

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<v Speaker 3>a Taco Bell with the windows covered in rapping paper,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna know, You're gonna know. That's the sign I've

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a show called Physical and we filmed

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<v Speaker 1>near this Taco Bell in San Pedro. Oh really, that's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you eat there?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm well aware of these locations, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>now I know that I was never invited to, uh partake.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna ask you if you've ever been invited

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<v Speaker 3>to an orgy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been invited to an orgy. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>have to. I'll just divulge that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're still young man, plenty of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, And it's not for lack of try. I have

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<v Speaker 1>made it very clear I want to be in and

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<v Speaker 1>no one cares.

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<v Speaker 3>After the break, a different story about a holiday party

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<v Speaker 3>gone awry, featuring a Phillies fan who had won too

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<v Speaker 3>many cocktails and sparked an international incident. Yes, hello, and

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<v Speaker 3>welcome back to Crime List, the only podcast brave enough

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<v Speaker 3>to tell the truth about holiday parties. That's right, Rory,

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<v Speaker 3>now that you've heard the truth. A story about a

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<v Speaker 3>Taco Bell party that turned into an orgy. You may

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<v Speaker 3>be thinking things couldn't possibly get worse for America's holiday gatherings.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I hope so, I hope it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because for at least one guy in Delaware, it's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not true. Probably a lot of guys in Delaware,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just know about this one guy. Allow me

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<v Speaker 3>to introduce you to Michael Rohana, a then twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>year old shoe salesman from Bear, Delaware, who drove into

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<v Speaker 3>Philly in December of twenty seventeen to attend an ugly

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<v Speaker 3>sweater party at the famous Franklin Institute Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, ever been there? I have?

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<v Speaker 3>Not great museum Okay. In fact, it's one of America's

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<v Speaker 3>most acclaimed science museums, named for that og Philly legend,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Franklin. Benjamin got it. Perhaps you've heard of him,

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<v Speaker 3>Benny boy A Benny boy Yep. But on this night

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty seventeen, the museum is hosting a science after

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<v Speaker 3>hours holiday party that Michael and his pals decide to

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<v Speaker 3>hit up. So I guess it's open to the public.

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<v Speaker 3>You probably pay ten bucks to show up party in

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<v Speaker 3>the museum?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems fun. I would do that me too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they pregamed or just had too

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<v Speaker 3>many cups of the spiked punch, But around nine pm

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<v Speaker 3>Michael makes one of the most consequential bad decisions of

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<v Speaker 3>his young life.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine pm is so on the early side, but that

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<v Speaker 1>is not the hour that something like this happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, drove out from Delaware Hot Look into party.

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<v Speaker 1>He drank on the way. He had him drinks on

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<v Speaker 1>the way.

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<v Speaker 3>They tailgated outside the Franklin too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael slips off and ducks under a rope that divides

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<v Speaker 3>the section of the museum open for the party from

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<v Speaker 3>its closed exhibits. And where does he end up? In

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of an exhibit of ten almost priceless terracotta

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<v Speaker 3>warriors from the legendary collection of eight thousand clay soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>buried by China's first emperor and discovered back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, I was wondering how we were gonna tie

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<v Speaker 1>these worlds together, and here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know these warriors? I do, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently some peasants were digging a well and chang Xi

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<v Speaker 3>Province and just stumbled upon them. They're all like literally

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<v Speaker 3>built to be buried with his emperor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you imagine stumbling into that and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you never you would never be able to lose

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<v Speaker 1>that initial reaction to oh my god, what is this?

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<v Speaker 3>From like part of one to a whole one to

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<v Speaker 3>eight thousand of them been going there unending serious swagg

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<v Speaker 3>that emperor had had that commission to be buried with

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<v Speaker 3>him when he died. He's like, I need eight thousand

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<v Speaker 3>warriors to be sculpted from clay.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had Bezos money, I would go, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand, Let's set the record and then bury them

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<v Speaker 1>with me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, for those who don't know, it's this really

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<v Speaker 3>detailed army of literally thousands of individually sculpted clay figures,

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<v Speaker 3>some on horseback, some marching, each with his own individual flare.

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<v Speaker 3>These things were not mass produced, and the point of

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<v Speaker 3>them was to protect Emperor Chin Chi Wong in the afterlife,

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<v Speaker 3>which feels like a little bit of overkill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I don't know what to expect in

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<v Speaker 1>the afterlife, but I just would like to believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>not war I would just love to believe it's not war.

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<v Speaker 3>So I commissioned statues of what instead.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean wings, a cool car, just in the event

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<v Speaker 1>that we do get to use these things.

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<v Speaker 3>How about some ladies for an orgy?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight thousand ladies, eight thousand ladies, one of whom is

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<v Speaker 1>your wife. They're all different versions of my wife. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how committed I am. All eight thousand are different versions

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<v Speaker 1>of my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>So the main collection has become one of China's most

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<v Speaker 3>famous and popular art exhibits, and this small group of

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<v Speaker 3>them was split off to tour of the world. So

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<v Speaker 3>our man Michael wanders into the dark section of the museum,

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<v Speaker 3>and using his phone's flashlight, he decides to give himself

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<v Speaker 3>a little tour. Yep, he poses for some selfies. He's

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a green holiday sweater and of course a Phillies hat. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>this is Philly. He's from Delaware, but Delawa is right

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<v Speaker 3>across the border. Yeah, so he's trespassing, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 3>probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you giving him the benefit of the doubt?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. You know, he knew what that velvet rope meant.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, he knew he was dancing with the devil.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, but still like, I feel like at

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<v Speaker 3>this point he's not gonna get himself. They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>kick him out, right, They're like, okay, you're Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So and he guesses about where he crosses the actual

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<v Speaker 3>crime line. I mean, assuming that he's trespassing, right, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's that probably wouldn't have gotten him.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he's doing he's taking selfies with the soldiers. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>That's well, no, that's not Yes, he did do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's still not what I guess what he might do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it related to the soldiers. It is he got

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<v Speaker 1>into sexual positions, like he was at Taco bell. He

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<v Speaker 1>started giving taco bell with the soldiers.

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<v Speaker 3>He re enacted the Tago Bell orgy. Uh no, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just tell you. At some point, Michael snaps the thumb

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<v Speaker 3>off one of the warriors the cavalry, and he sticks

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<v Speaker 3>it in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he eventually finds his way back to the party,

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<v Speaker 3>finishes his night, and takes the little terra cotta thumb

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<v Speaker 3>home man, Dun dune dum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like if this was a horror movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>brings the soldier to life and he kills everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, that's such a good plot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually a pretty good plot. Nobody steal that in

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<v Speaker 1>case Josh and I decided to co write it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crimeless movie spin off number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be really houses related to the show at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the elevator pitch. We just did. We just did it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there you go, offers via. Well, we might have different agencies.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just email us. It actually just venmo us.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have enough, we'll go highest venmo we get

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<v Speaker 1>to keep all the venmos, but whoever sends the highest

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<v Speaker 1>amount gets the script.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that's legal. Yeah. So, according to a filing

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<v Speaker 3>by his lawyer, Michael woke up the next day hungover,

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<v Speaker 3>extremely scared, and immediately regretting his conduct. Yeah, but at first,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing happens. He just resumes his life. It takes a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks for the museum staff to even notice

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<v Speaker 3>that the cavalryman is missing a thumb, but eventually they

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<v Speaker 3>do and the police are called.

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<v Speaker 1>I that is actually kind of interesting that they would

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<v Speaker 1>notice that. It must have been like a prominent like

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<v Speaker 1>on display thumb location.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the less famous, like the little known guy giving

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<v Speaker 3>two thumbs up.

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe maybe all of them were doing this, but

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>one of them was doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>For those not watching on a video, Rory is giving

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.400
<v Speaker 3>the thumbs up. One presumes it wasn't a terribly difficult

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<v Speaker 3>mystery to solve. They have cameras, and so an FBI

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.479
<v Speaker 3>agent pays a visit to Michael's home in Delaware, and

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Michael confesses right away. He hands over the thumb, which

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 3>he'd put in a desk drawer, of course. Yeah, where

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 3>else would.

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You put it? Yeah? Paper weight? I would go paper

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>weight for sure.

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 3>He surely hopes they'll just slap him on the wrist,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe issue a fine, and that is not what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately for Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh god, here we go, there we go. Let

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>this be a lesson to everybody. Let everyone learn through

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael's mistakes. Right now, Josh, what did they do to him?

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>They killed him? Did they kill him? Michael was killed?

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Yeah, This is a cautionary tale for all of us.

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 3>Even the most harmless prank can get you in big trouble.

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And so in Michael's case, federal prosecutors charged him with

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<v Speaker 3>the theft and concealment of an item of cultural heritage,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as interstate transport of a stolen item because

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 3>he'd driven the thumb back across the border into Delaware.

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<v Speaker 3>These are very serious charges that could result in decades

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<v Speaker 3>in prison should he be convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, oh shit. You know, he can't even believe it.

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's like just a normal guy. Oh yeah, like.

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 3>One did one dumb thing and then suddenly the FBI's

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<v Speaker 3>at his house and he's being charged by federal prosecutors

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<v Speaker 3>with crimes that could.

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<v Speaker 1>Put He's gonna go to jail longer than the Jam sixers,

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>who knew they were definitely crossing a velvet rope. They

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:54.159
<v Speaker 1>definitely knew that.

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 3>I believe they smashed some doors and windows.

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<v Speaker 1>They did a little more than Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So why go so hard on him because this

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 3>is Philly bro. No, Actually, it's because this had become

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 3>an international incident. Rory. The case was fueled in part

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 3>by outrage from the Chinese government, which takes these words

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<v Speaker 3>very seriously. Yeah, only ten at a time are ever

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to leave the country, and according to The New

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 3>York Times, a Chinese man was sentenced to death back

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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties for stealing the head of one.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and the head's gonna be a little

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>bit more than the thumb. They're gonna notice that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean death, Why would you want it?

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Like, what do you even do with it? I don't know,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Like if he put it on eBay, would you even

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<v Speaker 1>believe that's legitimately a thumb from one of the soldiers,

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Or if you had the head he just put it

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<v Speaker 1>on a shelf. Yeah, I don't know. I grabbed it

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<v Speaker 1>at a holiday party. They're gonna kill me, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know.

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 3>I just I couldn't. I couldn't stop.

0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I always have so much fun at the holiday party.

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.280
<v Speaker 1>The schnapps we would do impeach schnapps.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Chinese government wasn't quite that blood thirsty, but

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.479
<v Speaker 3>they were still very pissed, and they asked you officials

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 3>to punish Michael to the full extent of the law,

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 3>calling the theft to quote vicious incident. Phillas City Council

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 3>tried to lower the temp by issuing a formal apology

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>to China, stating that the work of art was invaluable

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.959
<v Speaker 3>in an official resolution, and two years later, in twenty nineteen,

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 3>the case finally goes to court.

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh here we go. I'm I'm Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael's lawyers argued that the severity of the charges was

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<v Speaker 3>sort of ridiculous, and I think we can agree that, yeap,

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<v Speaker 3>it seems a little ridiculous, right, yeah, yeah. It says

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 3>these charges were made for art thieves think Ocean's eleven

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<v Speaker 3>or mission impossible. One of his lawyers said her client

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a ninja clothing sneaking around the museum. He was

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 3>a drunk kid in a bright green, ugly Christmas sweater.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>A great line by a lawyer, right there. Yeah, here's

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>what Michael, surely scared shitless told the court. Every time

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I see this video now, I'm trying to figure out

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 3>what was going through your mind? What were you thinking? Also,

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I broke it. It did just happen,

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 3>But there was never a thought of I should break this. Yeah,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 3>so I get if he's telling the truth, it may

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<v Speaker 3>be more of like maybe he touched it in an

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 3>act it only broke and then he was like, oh shit, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is there any foot There was no footage

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<v Speaker 1>of not released.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, I mean, I guess you could imagine a

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 3>couple of scenarios. One and he breaks it by accident

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 3>and pockets at one where he did think, oh, this

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 3>will be funny, and then immediately is like, ah shit.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the things lawyers argued about the most

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 3>was the value of the thumb, the small piece of

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 3>two thousand year old klute. To get the conviction, US

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 3>attorneys needed to convince the court that the thumb was

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<v Speaker 3>worth more than five thousand dollars. According to the New

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 3>York Times, curators told the FBI that the statue itself

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>was worth four point five million, and an expert witness

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 3>testified that the thumb was worth one hundred and fifty thousand.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're just making this shit up, Yeah, based

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 3>on what thel there's the market for terracotta warrior thous

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 3>that's what I got.

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred and fifty thousand. Nice.

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 3>But Michael's expert, an artipraiser, stated that the thumb's real

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 3>value was probably more like a thousand bucks the estimated

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>cost of reattaching it. I think that's reasonable. Yeah, Like

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 3>I buy that argument.

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, the jury was mostly confused. They entered in a

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 3>split verdict and a mistrial was declared. But this sadly

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 3>was not the end for Michael and his drunk adventure.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, and he's two years into living with this, yep.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Exactly because the Chinese government not over it.

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like that. They wouldn't let it go. You

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>know what they would do on there. They're standing ground.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>They're standing on business here, folks.

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 3>They were very unhappy about the miss trial, and a

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 3>BBC story about the trial quoted outraged users of Chinese

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>social media sites too. Let me read a few of

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 3>these for you, Rory. Yeah, since he's not guilty, can

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>I also take the statue of Liberty's torch?

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's gonna be a little bit bigger than the thumb,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was a.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Little harder to break off and speak away with.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we have to see how mad would France

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>get about that? That's right, does France care?

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Another person said, are those seven jurors idiots?

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh and finally my favorite, this American dog doesn't care

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 3>at all or understand Chinese cultural relics.

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's what they wrote.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>This was social media users in China.

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, yeah, they called him a dog, American dog.

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I like it. Yeah.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 3>This left prosecutors in a bit of a predicament. It

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 3>was too high profile to let go of. So the

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 3>case dragged on for five more years. Rory, So seven

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 3>year guy, this poor guy. So we're talking like this

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>just resolved last year twenty twelve. God, so the pandemic

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 3>was part of the reason, of course, but it drags on.

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 3>So finally, in twenty twenty three, Michael agrees to a

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>plea deal. He pleads guilty to a federal midsdemeanor trafficking

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 3>and archaeological resources in exchange for five years probation, a

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 3>five thousand dollars fine, and one hundred hours of community service.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's lucky, both lucky, but also probably like

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>seven years of my life. I mean, God, imagine how stressed.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>That guy was for s Do you think there's any

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>like Chinese spies. They're going to try to kill him.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 3>He might because punishment back home, we know what that is.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're gonna kill him. They're gonna find him.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>So Michael would have to pay an as yet undecided

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 3>amount of restitution to the Franklin Institute, which even six

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 3>years later, was still hopping mad. The museum issued a

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 3>statement that the statue would never again be publicly displayed

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>because of the damage Michael caused, which reduced the artworks

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 3>life expectancy, and it claimed they had spent fifty thousand

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>dollars to add security barriers. I mean, come on, that's

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 3>their fault, and flew in Chinese officials to inspect the damage,

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>plus another twenty five grand to fix the thumb.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So only twenty five grand to fix it. Yeah, right,

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>there you go.

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Michael, who at the time of the thumb robbery I

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 3>guess we can call it, was a shoe salesman. He

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 3>had moved on by this time he worked at an

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>HVAC company. He told the judge he was willing to

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 3>do anything, even sell his collection of Nike sneakers, which

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>included some very rare air Jordans, to help pay it back.

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Yeah, I don't know if he needed to tell

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>us how he was going to get the money, but

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that feels like he was posturing to be like,

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I've got some dope sneakers. No one

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>ever really knows that about me, and this is my

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>only chance to kind of really air that out.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Michael. Yeah, he also just wanted to

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>move on. Yeah, I was wasting my time with no

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 3>goals and no vision of where I wanted my life

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 3>to go. He said, this has been a huge wake

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>up call for me.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a long, long wake up call.

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, poor guy. I mean, you know, listen, you know.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't tamper with artwork. You've got to be assuming,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>You've got to be you have to assume this is

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all expensive, and this is why you're not allowed to

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>touch paintings.

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 3>So uh Rory, will you now moderate your punch and

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 3>take all holiday parties going forward?

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course? Yeah? Yeah, I look, I would never steal

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a thumb from one of these warriors or touch a painting,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>but I will say and I don't think there would

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>have been any punishment. A younger me would have definitely

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of drinks and wanted people to know

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I went into the music. I would like be like, look,

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Yeah, I'm gonna go in and they

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want me to. I can easily see me doing that.

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean super young. I mean maybe two

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. I mean still in my forties, adult husband, father,

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>drinking too much and going into the roped off area.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 3>All right, well, I'm ready for some eggnog. Let's take

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 3>a break. But after the break, Rory, what's coming up?

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Blaane s game?

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's favorite game or games we'll see in a minute. Hello,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and welcome back to Crime List, the only podcast brave

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>enough to get drunk at your holiday party. It's now

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 3>time for our final segments.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Blane Scame never gets sold.

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to hit a better scratch of the back

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of the throat. This thing's evolving, it's growing.

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 3>Bring a bullhorn one of these times you should pull

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 3>it out. Gen absolutely fucking whale it.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Please, I just blow out my own mic and.

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Headphones, break our speakers.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 3>All right, Lane, what do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 2>So today? Since it was our holiday episode, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a game dedicated to Christmas movies, specific Hallmark Christmas movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, do you guys watch those?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, so I'm gonna be terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I can I tell you something earlier in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was talking about how Christmas shopping and shit

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<v Speaker 1>starts in like September, I was visiting my family members

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<v Speaker 1>in Panama City Beach in mid October, and the Hallmark

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>channel has it already was starting its playing of non

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>stop Christmas movies starting then They're going right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't be stopped. They turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>They turned out so many. There was thirty original films

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Guilty Pleasure. I would sit and watch one right now

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<v Speaker 1>and make fun of it and also secret goal that

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>no one knows. I would absolutely be in one if

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>someone get made me an offer. I'm not gonna lie,

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I go read. I would go read for it, I owe.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would easily be in a Hallmark movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I my fear is that I'd love it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Just film them all like rural Canada. You just live

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>in that town where they film them all, and.

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>You live in that town, and you just you create

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this misperceived version of Christmas that no one in their

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>reality actually lives.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, no one sounds like you have a better chance

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>of raising this than me, though, You're like, spiritually.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about I just watch them and

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what's going on. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be horrible at this.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I like this great place to start. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>the premise of this game simple. I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you the title of a Christmas Hallmark movie and I

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<v Speaker 2>just want you to tell me what it's about. Just

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>give me any plot point in a detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, thank you? Lane?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, hold on, hold on? Can we do Can

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this be the first Lane Games where Josh and I

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>are maybe on the same team and we either get

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>it right or wrong?

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>You know for Christmas?

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oh, we collaborate.

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>We're collaborating on what we think this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in the spirit of the holidays, of course.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Unity.

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<v Speaker 2>So this movies called An Unexpected Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think pregnancy? Pregnancy, I'm feeling family that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they lean heavily into Mary and Joseph. I

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>think they go hardcore religious on this and they've it's

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple that's been trying.

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Baby, they've been trying a long time to have a baby,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 3>and the baby happens like right at Christmas, right holiday.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Or it's born on Christmas.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 3>It was born on Christmas and they name it Jesus.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And they name it Jesus because Jesus Jesus.

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>How we doing that's too progressive for Hallmark. Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>one's about Jamie, a political speech writer who returns home

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to his small town for the holidays. But he hasn't

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>told his family that he and his girlfriend broke up.

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But Emily, his girlfriend, arrives in his hometown on marketing business,

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>and David doesn't want to ruin Christmas for his family,

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>so he tells Emily, let's just pretend and we can

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>work together. I'll help you with your work project, and

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>what do you know, they fall back in love.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right, Josh and I are idiots. What

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a horrible fucking guess. That's a great I would be

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>in that.

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 2>You could be the funny brother or the main character.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.280
<v Speaker 1>When I was thinking, I was like, let me play

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the dad, even though the ages will be way off.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I think no one will care.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Where Just wear like a what are those I can't

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 3>even think of the word. Man, what are those sweaters

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>called when you button them up?

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Cardigan?

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, just wear a cardigan.

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Josh is so thrown by the fact that our pitch

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even close to this forgotten words. I can't, I

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>can't give you. He's actually shell shocked right now.

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I am okay, I think you can get this one

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 2>some detail. It's called Santa's Steakout.

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a family that's been trying to have a baby.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's a cop and his girlfriend have just

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 3>broken up.

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's always going to be a breakup or

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>a single person finding love. These are all of them.

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So Santa's steak out, I'm gonna guess it had it's

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>not criminal related. It's g rated. That was our mistake

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 1>on this first one. And there it's a steak out

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>because they want to see the real Santa or find

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>out if Santa's so they're doing a steak out to

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>watch on Christmas.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Detective movie tropes. But the steakout is it's not crime,

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 3>it's and they fought the kid.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>And they fall in love. Oh, I got it.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>It's two single parents, both with children who are skeptical

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 3>about Santa Claus I like what Josh is doing, and

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 3>therefore they steak out to prove to their children that

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Santa is real, and then they fall in love during

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the steakout.

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say something, Even if this guess is

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>wildly off, Hallmark would fucking eat us up. They would

0:36:59.640 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>love it.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Josh, you got points because it is There is a

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 2>police officer. Tanya is a rookie police officer paired up

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>with a veteran Ryan Anderson. You needed to know his

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>last name.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like knowing that it's very just

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Anderson. That's anativity.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>They need to go undercover as a married couple because

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a thief on the loose who is striking during

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>holiday parties.

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Joe Pashi and Daniel Stern.

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Could be their main suspect is a friendly neighborhood Santa

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 2>who has a criminal past. Oh so Ggie, if you

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>can even fathom that they fall in love at the

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 2>end they do.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>How crazy. He's the veteran and she's the rookie, and

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to retire and she's like, well, I still

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have a whole career of He's like, I can't get

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>away from this job.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>The spirit of Christmas brings them together.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be in that. I would gladly play the

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>One more, here we go A Christmas shoe?

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>A shoe atticts Christmas? Yep, this is a real.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Shoe addicts Christmas? Is it?

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Michael from the Franklin Institute Party A rare collection of.

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Rare selection of sneaks. God, I don't even know to

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>start with this one. No, Oh, there's a rare a

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>rare shoe.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Do we feel like that's yeah, it's like some really arrogant,

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 3>egotistical business guy who collects shoes and he desperately needs

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.399
<v Speaker 3>this one special pair for Christmas, and he asks his girlfriend, maybe.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>That no, no, no, no no. The woman who owns it

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>is who he falls in love with. Oh yeah, oh wait,

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, asked his girlfriend.

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, ask his girlfriend. He's like, I don't need

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>anything this Christmas except for this one shoe, and if

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't get it for me, we're done. And the

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>person who owns it, yes, is another woman. And the

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend dumps him because she's like, fuck you in your shoes.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>And his overall lesson in the end is that love

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>is more important than shoes. Yes, and they fall in love. Mane,

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>do we get it?

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>You got the love detail?

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And this person does love shoes. Okay. So Noel is

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 2>a single lady with a stagnant career. Her real dream

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>was to be a big time photographer, but after a breakup,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 2>she quit and now works in hr at a department store.

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>One snow evening, she stays late and accidentally gets locked

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 2>in after closing. While wandering through the shoe department, she

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>meets a woman who says she's her guardian angel, played

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 2>by Jean Smart.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh see what I mean these celebs and.

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>So Noel is rescued from this snowed in department store

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>by a hunky fireman who is her love interest John Cena. Yes,

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>but Jean Smart keeps reappearing with magic shoes to transport

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 2>her to Christmas Pass and future, where she reflects on

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 2>what's been holding her back.

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're stepping up, like the budgets on,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.919
<v Speaker 3>like bigger stars, more ambitious plot.

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<v Speaker 1>Magic year is that? Uh?

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I think think it was a couple of year Lucy

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen.

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen, right, so pre hacks.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah. Noel is played by Candice Cameron Bureau, DJ

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>from Full House.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Married of Hockey. She's in a lot of them. I

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>think I think she is. She's part of the rotation.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>She's in the rotation. It's very it's very Harlem globetrotters

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>against the Washington what is it the senators or generals? Yeah,

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what That's what a Hallmark movie is. It's the

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>globetrotters versus the generals.

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It's globetrotters.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>For girls. It's right guys, and just to have one clear,

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>we do believe that Globetrotters can be for everybody. We

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>don't all agree. Those are lanes views, lanes views.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 2>This is where we get political, Lane, Allmark should be

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>for girls.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>All of our episodes in with a political ramp that's

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 1>unrelated to the two stories.

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Lane tariffs, Lane.

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I think we need more of them. I think we

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>need more.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. Let's tear let's bigger

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 3>tariffund on those movies. I think we got it. On

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that note, Happy holidays, everybody. Rory's got to read his

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.760
<v Speaker 3>sides for the Hallmark audition.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay safe out there, and if you see me in

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>a Hallmark movie, note that that dream started on this.

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