WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Podcast | ESPN's Sal Paolantonio Talks Jets Draft (4/27)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, The

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Podcast, presented by Pepsi. Two days away from the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, we caught up with Suth Palantonio from ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't be at the facility unfortunately, like he is

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<v Speaker 1>most years in the past. A good buddy of e

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<v Speaker 1>A's over here. He a great professional, good friend, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and a hull of a reporter. You can watch South Pal.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been doing this great work on ESPN, as he

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<v Speaker 1>always is. But this is NFL Matchup Draft Special Part

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<v Speaker 1>two actually comes out April, which is tonight, ten pm

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN two. He said, a certain young quarterback by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Zack Wilson, who I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Jets fans I think is the future of their franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>will be featured heavily on this episode. And with the

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<v Speaker 1>draft being two days away, I think it's fair, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe talk not not necessarily mock draft, but it sure

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<v Speaker 1>seems like Zach Wilson will be the pick for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. If you're reading the tea leaves from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL draft analysts, Yeah, I think everybody thinks the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets are headed in that direction, and Zack Wilson is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a supremely talented prospect who is coming off a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic season at b YU. Whereas I think last year,

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<v Speaker 1>if we were having this conversation, maybe people would be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Zack Wilson is a flyer on Day three,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's a fourth round pick, maybe he's a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick. Because the athletic skills were always there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he put it together last year with just

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<v Speaker 1>with just an amazing season, and he has very unique

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<v Speaker 1>skills that other people don't. Yeah, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is becoming a trend in the draft where there's a

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<v Speaker 1>player that's maybe looked at as a Day three guy

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<v Speaker 1>and he soars up the draft board. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen Baker Mayfield. Now, I think at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the season he was viewed maybe a third

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<v Speaker 1>round pick or so, and sure enough number one overall

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<v Speaker 1>pick two thousand nineteen Joe Burrow. Yeah, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just think I'm saying that, right. I think my ears

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<v Speaker 1>are not crossed up? Right? Two thousand play last season

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<v Speaker 1>he was in Cincinnati, right, Okay, Well, here's drafts and

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<v Speaker 1>then Zack Wilson two thousand twenty one puts it together

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<v Speaker 1>soars up the draft boards. It's funny. We actually did

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<v Speaker 1>a chat on Reddit this morning, right, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions, I think a couple of people were asking,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened to Fields here? Why is he falling? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think he's falling just as much as

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<v Speaker 1>other people think very highly of other quarterbacks in this class,

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<v Speaker 1>and Fields probably going to be in all likelihood, he

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<v Speaker 1>will be a top ten pick himself. You're you're just

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand twenty one draft is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>probably remember by what these quarterbacks do in ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're ultimately gonna have five quarterbacks probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>top ten picks, right. And I don't think it would

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<v Speaker 1>surprise a lot of people if let's just say to

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<v Speaker 1>use justin Fields as an example, if he's a number

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<v Speaker 1>three overall pick, I don't think it's surprised certain group

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<v Speaker 1>of people if it was Matt Jones or Trey Lance either.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that that this is what makes the

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<v Speaker 1>draft so great. Every year, you don't know what's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's truly a mystery even for the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are studying the draft from the beginning. Of the college

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<v Speaker 1>football season. So I think you never say never is

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<v Speaker 1>truly the like it's a saying that is used in

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<v Speaker 1>common everyday life, but it could not be more epitomized

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<v Speaker 1>than with the NFL Draft. So if me and you

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<v Speaker 1>go to mccool's down the street, a popular ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>joint here in Madison, okay, But if we go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and we're looking at ice cream, you might like

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<v Speaker 1>a flavor like a peanut butter chocolate chip, and I

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<v Speaker 1>might go for Sherbet or were here or something I

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<v Speaker 1>like orange Sherbert. Well you got a problem with it, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's not Oh yeah I do. I also

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<v Speaker 1>have a young daughter and she likes fruit and she

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<v Speaker 1>likes Herbert. Fair enough, when you said peanut butter chocola,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds pretty good. Yeah, So that's what I gave

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<v Speaker 1>you though, when we just want here. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>is that we got two different flavors, even though we

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<v Speaker 1>went to the same place. And the point is what

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna work for you? What you know, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about ice cream flavors, but four teams, what's us for

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<v Speaker 1>your system? What also are the physical traits you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for in a player at that specific position, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback spot. Right. I think really for the Jets, the

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<v Speaker 1>intrigue comes after the number two pick because of your

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream analogy. We don't know what types of flavors

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<v Speaker 1>for each position the Jets wat and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>in like a typical year. You know, if this, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're having this conversation next year, even we'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we think the Jets like this that receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at what they did last year. Week,

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<v Speaker 1>we have nothing to basis on. So before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about picks three and so on, let's hear from ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>South Palestonio. Now it's a little different not having you

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<v Speaker 1>in the building around the time of the draft. The

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<v Speaker 1>first night of the draft, we were just talking off air,

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, assuming the Jets are selecting a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>at two, this is your fourth quarterback selection for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. Yes, I've covered all of them, going

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<v Speaker 1>back to Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Donald. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be the fourth one, so hopefully they get it right

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Uh So, we've missed you throughout the off

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<v Speaker 1>season because we always catch up with you, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL combine, the owners meetings. Uh. Last year you

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<v Speaker 1>worked the draft remotely for I think the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in a quarter century, right, How different? How different was

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<v Speaker 1>that for you? And what are the plans this year? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I miss being at the facility. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been at the Jets facility a lot with Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Bowle's head coach, Rex Ryan head coach. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I go all the way back to being there

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<v Speaker 1>at we View Bank Hall at Hofsh University with Bill Parcels.

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<v Speaker 1>I've covered a lot of Jets and Eric Mangini, I've

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<v Speaker 1>covered a lot of Jets first round picks over the

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<v Speaker 1>years for ESPN. Always did it in person. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets have always treated me like one of their own.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I get the royal treatment whenever I go

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<v Speaker 1>to Florham Park, whether it's from Bob of security or

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<v Speaker 1>the front desk people, or the cafeteria people, or Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Tannenbaum or the coaches. The pr staff over the years

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<v Speaker 1>have always treated me great and really welcome ESPN. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you Eric, when you cover a draft and

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<v Speaker 1>embedded with a team like that, you know, you're you

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like you're part of the process. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to the coaches and the front office people,

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<v Speaker 1>and you really get an opportunity to see the inner

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<v Speaker 1>workings of what goes on with the football team, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get excited about it, first of all. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to convey what you know inside information two

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<v Speaker 1>fans around the world, but especially to New York Jet fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't have to remind you that I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up a Jet fan on Long Island. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Sawanaka High School and used to take my bike with

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Jimmy down to Jets practice at Hofstra all

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<v Speaker 1>the time watch practice. So you know, obviously it was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge thrill for me. Later in life, will to

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<v Speaker 1>get paid to do it instead of, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids along that days. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a white picket fence around the I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>like it was yesterday. They had a white picket fence

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<v Speaker 1>around the field and you just rode your bike up

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<v Speaker 1>and watch practice. It was the coolest thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That is awesome. Yeah, I always loved talking to you that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really something because, um, considering where you came

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<v Speaker 1>from and where you are now, how proud are you

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<v Speaker 1>of your career and what you've done in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, because you just talked about it. Um. People

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<v Speaker 1>often say, hey, what do you most enjoy about being

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL? Are working specifically for the Jets, And

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's always been relationships. And you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys who I consider like extended Jets family because

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<v Speaker 1>you've been here so much, and I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets have been family to me. You know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was hanging out in Courtland with you for the

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<v Speaker 1>summer at Cibo. You know, we would go to Dougs

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Fry, played basketball together. It was fun to hang

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<v Speaker 1>around with Rex and Mike t and you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches and the players, and you know, I've I

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, that was one of the most memorable

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<v Speaker 1>summers I ever had as a reporter or a person

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships. But you know, going going to Hempstead, going

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<v Speaker 1>to Hofstow. We stopped it on Burdos to get a

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<v Speaker 1>slice on Hempstead Avenue, I'm sorry, a new high Park road,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then get on old Bison go down to

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<v Speaker 1>Hempstead Avenue and go watch practice. And you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first football game I ever saw e a

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<v Speaker 1>in person. Me and my brother and my friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>took the train the Metro north to Yale Bowl and

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Jets and the Giants that Joe name had

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<v Speaker 1>played in that game. We had we had seats right

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of the field. If you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knows around the Yale Bowl, it's it's literally a bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And we sat right in the front row in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone and we watched Joe Namath carved up the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Giants in that game. You know, I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually heard about the Yeale Bowl story from my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>and Sally. We've never met or played basketball, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I'm bringing it up is because my

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<v Speaker 1>dad grew up going to Jets Vans and he remembers

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<v Speaker 1>the Yale Bowl clearly, and he told me about the

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<v Speaker 1>Yel Bowl, and um, he said that somebody he remembers

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<v Speaker 1>he has vivid memory leaving the Yelbowl and someone there

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<v Speaker 1>was a fence that had people wanted to get through

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<v Speaker 1>to get to their cars as a shortcuts, or someone

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<v Speaker 1>brought out wire cutters like out of nowhere, sniff the

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<v Speaker 1>fence and everyone just started funneling through there. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I know the Yell Bowl, but rad Jet fans tradition. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 1>you get in. You know what's interesting when you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to that ye bow, you think, Okay, Joe name

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<v Speaker 1>if they're still trying to find you know, the air

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<v Speaker 1>apparent to Joe Willie and um, it's it comes full circle.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does. Well. You know, we're gonna ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of quarterback prospects, but first you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>playing hoops with e A. I'm just curious. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>scouting report here? Let me tell you something. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a strong young man. His solid as a rock. He listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna turned in June. Okay uh. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>getting beat up by him and eric I never complained.

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<v Speaker 1>You would hit me and hit me hard. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>got he packs a good inside foul on him when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to And I'll tell you what on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the coin, this guy can bring it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a nice game. And when you need a

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<v Speaker 1>dagg or three at the end, Salpell is gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. Eight ball corner pocket the key, top

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<v Speaker 1>of the key. I remember that game, Eric I was

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<v Speaker 1>on your team and you. You You tossed it out

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<v Speaker 1>to me and I hit. I hit a three at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the key right over Mr. T. Remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what sale you know who you really?

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<v Speaker 1>Who really got going when we're playing those games. Aeron Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the competitive juices of a G. He

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<v Speaker 1>was now the defensive coordinator with Detroit Lions, but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a long time cornerback with the New York Jets. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>A G was kind of feeling his way out and

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<v Speaker 1>you could see his athleticism. Then after a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like he was playing the top receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. He started hitting me and I

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't think an old man was gonna hit him back.

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<v Speaker 1>It got real competitive, real quick, and I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>bringing me aside. He said, you know, that's a former

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<v Speaker 1>NFL player there. You might want you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>tone it down a little bit. And Seal was well equipped.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was he knocking him down, but after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>like a good sport, he had his cooler and we

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of pops on the court like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. So, you know, South, how you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be home for this year's draft. But also

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<v Speaker 1>this year you have the NFL Matchup Draft Special Part

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<v Speaker 1>two is Tuesday, April PM on ESPN two. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback that's gonna be in focus on that episode

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<v Speaker 1>who I think a lot of Jets fans believe will

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<v Speaker 1>be the future of their franchise and Jack will Pison.

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<v Speaker 1>What are year thoughts on Zack Wilson and Zack Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to the New York Jets. Well, I think Zack

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson has the potential to be the next Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's no question about that. He's got all

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<v Speaker 1>of those kinds of tools. He has incredible vision of

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<v Speaker 1>the field, he has a very quick release, he can

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<v Speaker 1>he's very accurate on the run. Uh. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>creative player and he can really rip it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Ron Jaworski about Zack Wilson, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not a scout of a quarterback necessarily, I

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<v Speaker 1>did watch a little bit of film on him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a little bit of it with Ron Jaworski. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who of course I'm very close friends with

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<v Speaker 1>from on days at ESPN, and he is super high

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<v Speaker 1>on Zack Wilson. You know um. The bottom line, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is this for me, the biggest lesson from the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season, which was remarkable and I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>road for the entire time. The biggest lesson comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of two places, one the Cincinnati Bengals and two the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Bucks. Let's start with the Cincinnati Bengals. They

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<v Speaker 1>drafted a rookie quarterback and they didn't protect him. They

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<v Speaker 1>put him into empty sets, they didn't run the ball

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<v Speaker 1>well or often enough, and they left Joe Burrow out

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<v Speaker 1>on an island. And they didn't teach Joe Burrow that

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<v Speaker 1>at the pro game, you must get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in two point five seconds or less. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how good your offensive line is or your protection packages.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hold up the rush in the NFL for

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<v Speaker 1>more than really two and a half to three seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of college quarterbacks, especially young ones, especially

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks, think they have to do it all

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<v Speaker 1>and they hold onto the ball and want to make

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<v Speaker 1>the best possible player the biggest play that's on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that in college. You can't do that

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League. And Burrow got decimated. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sacked repeatedly wound up leaving this the season with a

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<v Speaker 1>gruesome leg injury and Hill. Of course we hope be back,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have to obviously fix their protection in the

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<v Speaker 1>quickest way to fix your protection is not to really

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<v Speaker 1>fix your offensive line per se, although that helps certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's to teach that young man and the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator La Fleur that you have there is a smart

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<v Speaker 1>guy and hopefully he's figured this out. You must protect

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback right now in the National Football League less

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<v Speaker 1>than number two from the Bucks. The Tampa Bay Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>protected Tom Brady in Super Bowl and he won the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kansas City Chiefs could not protect Patrick Mahomes and

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<v Speaker 1>they lost a forty three year old quarterback beat the

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<v Speaker 1>reigning NFL m v P because one was protected and

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<v Speaker 1>one was not. And Eric, look at the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>we got from ESPN Stats and information in and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the key final point here in NFL defensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>brought the blitz of the time. That's a five year high.

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<v Speaker 1>The blitz is coming. It's coming at a high rate

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<v Speaker 1>than an historically high rate. You must protect the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>especially young ones, and the way to teach them to

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves is hut Hut ball is snapped one Mississippi

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<v Speaker 1>to Mississippi, ball is out. That's the key. And I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that Zach Wilson and La Fleur and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of that offensive coaching staff teach that to Wilson and

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<v Speaker 1>get this ball, the ball out of that young man's

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<v Speaker 1>hands as quickly as possible. You always bring the juice

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<v Speaker 1>with the stats. Those are good numbers and uh, good

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<v Speaker 1>points about both this is Andy Bengals and the Tampa

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Buccaneers and the other under the spectrum when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the film room with Jaws cell, how rare is

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<v Speaker 1>that arm strength that you're seeing from Wilson Because people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how the ball just explodes off his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just he's got obviously a quick release. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about him throwing the ball seventy

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<v Speaker 1>yards down the field, but him just getting it to

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<v Speaker 1>spaces quicker than other people. There's no question that he

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<v Speaker 1>has credible velocity on the ball. His spin rate is

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily high. Uh. And he seems to be pretty accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's college accurate. Now I'll have to see

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<v Speaker 1>if he's NFL accurate. Um, you know. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I used those numbers, Eric, is not because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an analytics guy. It's because it matches up with what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the NFL last season. Remember, the overall overriding

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<v Speaker 1>number one lesson of was quarterback protection. Those quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>were not protected either got hurt or failed, and those

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that were protected. And you look, let's go back

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Bucks for a second. Byron left which and

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians changed the offense to a short passing game

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half of the year. They used six

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen at the highest percentage of any team in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and two tight end sets. They were determined

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<v Speaker 1>to protect Brady, knowing that everybody and his brother was

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<v Speaker 1>blitzing Brady off the bus. And so I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way Brady survived and flourished in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. It's certainly the way he went on

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<v Speaker 1>the road and won three straight playoff games and then

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<v Speaker 1>won the Super Bowl because he was protected. Breezes wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rogers wasn't, and Mahomes was not in Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Sal you've been here from Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Donald and whoever that quarterback will be at number two

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of us think that it will be

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Wilson. And when I say us, I mean Jets Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious from your perspective, let's use Wilson as

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<v Speaker 1>the example. From a kid coming from Provo, Utah to

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<v Speaker 1>the bright lights of New York City. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he will fare and what changes for a college

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<v Speaker 1>kid going to the pros from wherever that may be,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's West Virginia or USC or any school in

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<v Speaker 1>the country to New York City. It's a very good question.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hard one to answer, and I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to compare Zack Wilson to Donald sanchezar Gino Smith

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<v Speaker 1>because he's his own person and he's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to stand on his own. Just hearing him talk and

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<v Speaker 1>knowing his family background, it sounds like to me that

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Wilson will flourish in the moment, But you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the bottom line is, you've got a two and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven team that was lasting the league in points score,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're basically starting over. And so what the team

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<v Speaker 1>and the organization must do is relieve the pressure and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that it is spread evenly. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I know about Robert Sala. I think Sala understands that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's one of the reasons why the Jets were

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<v Speaker 1>so hot on hiring him. Sala has a big personality,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to set the tone and take the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>off of this quarterback. I think that's super important. The

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<v Speaker 1>more that Sala can absorb the pressure and the spotlight,

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<v Speaker 1>the less it will be on Wilson at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>and allow Wilson to sort of incorporate himself into the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League. But there's two really important factors here.

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<v Speaker 1>One is when you're starting a rookie quarterback in remember

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to seventeen games. All rookies hit a wall

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, for the most part, their season is

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<v Speaker 1>over pretty much after Thanksgiving. Now you're playing an extra

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<v Speaker 1>five six weeks of football. So they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that all across the roster on all NFL teams,

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<v Speaker 1>but particularly those teams that are using rookies heavily like

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, will that you know, I hate to use

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<v Speaker 1>this word this term, but load management will be crucial.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to put too much on rookies in

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen game schedule. That's a very good point about

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen game schedule. That change is the equation everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It absolutely does. You know, you gotta find sixth eric,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta find sixty seventy eight five snaps during the year,

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<v Speaker 1>or you just take a guy off the field now

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, now on the fourth quarter of Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>By twenty you're pulling your starters out. You're not letting

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<v Speaker 1>them finish. You want to get them rests. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to get hurt in a meaningless situation. There's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of that in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>and tangentially parenthetically, that's gonna affect gambling you watch and

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy football on the surface, getting back to what you

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<v Speaker 1>said about protecting and helping a young quarterback grow, about

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<v Speaker 1>the offense you're gonna run and and and how you

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<v Speaker 1>are ultimately going to help this guy succeed if it

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<v Speaker 1>is indeed Wilson, this is the first time offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>in Mike la Fleur, but he comes up in the

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan system. Was with Kyle Shanahan not only San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Atlanta, do you like this system? Who obviously

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<v Speaker 1>have his own imprint on it, because he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>calling the shots, calling the place. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>going back and looking what they did in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>and in Atlanta, using a powerful run game, getting after

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<v Speaker 1>people in the trenches, and then getting the quarterback out

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<v Speaker 1>on the move, sometimes with the boots, and then doing

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<v Speaker 1>some play action down the field. I do. I like

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot. It's successful, it's proven to be successful

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<v Speaker 1>at the highest levels. But you have to have the

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<v Speaker 1>personnel to run it, and the quarterback's got to buy in,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know that's gonna be a process that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take place as soon as they draft the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do agree that it will be Zack Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a mystery. So you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>have five picks in the top one hundred. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>got to sixties six and eighties six. So with the

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<v Speaker 1>second pick, they pick a quarterback. At twenty three, in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, they should pick an offensive lineman. They need

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<v Speaker 1>another young studs starting offensive lineman, and then with thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four take a running back and if they like a

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<v Speaker 1>running back that's sitting there earlier, than thirty four. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid to use some of this draft capital that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Douglas has accumulated. They got twenty one picks over

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<v Speaker 1>the next two drafts. If they're sitting there at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four e A and they've already got the offensive alignment,

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<v Speaker 1>and they like another running back, a pass catching running

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<v Speaker 1>back who can give the floor and Wilson options because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have options to get the ball out quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would do, is I would move up

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<v Speaker 1>and take a running back, or move up and take

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<v Speaker 1>a tight end or a wide receiver. But if they

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<v Speaker 1>can get you know, it reminds me of that draft

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<v Speaker 1>where Pennington was in it, where you know you you

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<v Speaker 1>could take three top flight players that could have you

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<v Speaker 1>was Pennington, Abraham and Anthony wasn't there Anthon Anthony Back.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a two thousand class the four aces, the four

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<v Speaker 1>aces you had Pennington, John Abraham, Sean Alice, Anthony Back

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, you look at that draft, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's the four aces, right, so you could get

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>at least three aces. Uh. Here with this there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of draft capital, and I do think again going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the overall big picture theme of where this

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>team is at two and eleven with a rookie head

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>coach and a rookie quarterback probably starting week one. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea is to line up and give that young quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>quick options off the ball so that he if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a passing situation, he gets the ball out quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's third and medium, third and six, third and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>he can get the ball out quickly. Or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going play action, you know, um on second down or

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<v Speaker 1>first down, play action. But if you're on second down

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and your second and short, now you have a running

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<v Speaker 1>back who can run behind uh Beckton or another offensive

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>lineman that you twin with him. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>key is ball distribution and options for a young quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>so that he remains protected. And also, in the two

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand draft, what some people referred to as the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>ace in the third round, not too bad of a

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>receiver from the New York Jets. Talk talk about strong

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and that dude was strong. Yeah, yes he was, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was pretty darn good player for the Jets. Up

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you mentioned trading up and Joe Douglas last

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<v Speaker 1>year obviously didn't have the same capital that he does

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>entering not only this year's draft, but next year. So

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>we saw some trading back. But I like what you

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>said about trading up, and you know, do you think

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that that is a possibility for the Jets to use

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>some of that capital and leap frog a couple of

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>teams to get you know, let's just use the term

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>we've been using another ace for the Jets. Well, I

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>think this is Joe Douglas's draft win or lose. This

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is his legacy in the line, right. He made the

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>big bet to stay at two and pick a quarterback.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>He probably could have auctioned off that pick for a

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>motherload of picks, but they realized they didn't want to

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>get into a money deal with Sam Donald, and so

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>they're starting over a quarterback. I think it's smart in

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>my view. I think Zack Wilson. This is me talking

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<v Speaker 1>based on my reporting. I think Zach Wilson has a

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>greater upside than Sam Donald at this point in his career.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I did not see enough out of Sam Donald to

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>tell me that in the end, who will be better

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>than Zach Wilson. So I think it was the right

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>move to make, for sure. But it's a big bet.

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's face it, it's a big bet for Joe Douglas

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and the organization. And you know, the fan base has

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:52.959
<v Speaker 1>been long suffering. Uh, you've got the Patriots on their heels,

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>You've got the Bills rising, the Dolphins rising. This is

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the time to make you move right now. Great stuff

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>from Sal. I've never met Sal, but he seems like

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a great guy. I've now met him virtually. I'm surprised

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you've never met him because you've been with us for

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 1>five six years now. Yeah, but typically when he's here,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the draft, and he's busy, and you know,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you you catch up with him and I don't want

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to bother him, and so that next time, next time

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>he's here. Yeah, he's he's a legend in this industry,

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, you look at his career. He's

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>been in a ESPN for more than years. Well said,

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think that we do have to talk about

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>pick twenty three and thirty four. You want to give

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>names that you like, you want to give, you want

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to do, Uh, who you think is going to be

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the pick? Can you tell me whatever you want to do?

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm open for Well, I'm not avoiding the question. What

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I would say is it's hard for me to deliver

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a pick at twenty three when I don't know the

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>group of players that are there. And that's the exercise

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that we are going to be doing on the Jets

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Draft Countdown final episode delivered by Duncan, so everybody can

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>watch it on Jets platforms because myself, you, Anthony Back,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Coleman are going to go through the exercise where

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you have five six players and it's up to us

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to pick a selection there. I've de zeroed in on

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. Joe Douglas said he wants to

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>surround his young quarterback with as much talent as possible.

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Douglas has also reiterated time and time again that he

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>wants to have a fortress up front along the offensive line.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be I have a lot of depth

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>in talent and defensive line that it's big inside the trenches.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>But the three areas that pop out to me with

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>this draft in the New York Jets, I'll just go

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>there and say offensive line makes a lot of sense.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Then on the other side of the ball, defensive line,

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>specifically edge cornerback. I ink, I definitely agree with everything

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you said. One position that gets overlooked and We've said

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>it multiple times on the podcast, and I'm gonna keep

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>hitting this home is linebacker, not because of the draft,

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>but because the Jets have only a handful of linebackers

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>on the roster right now and switching from the four

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>three to the three four. I think maybe that is

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the like if I were to ask you to power

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>rank what you think, like the biggest needs are not

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily who should be pick thirty four, But if you

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>were to say one of the Jets or power rank

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the Jets biggest needs, I would think there's an argument

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to me made that one A or one B could

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>be linebacker. And I think it's fair You're gonna add linebackers, right,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm just I'm not saying but that's my point

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>on this is, I don't know we're gonna find out,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to your point philosophically, where not only Joe Douglas stands,

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but the meshing of him with the Robert Slick coaching

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>staff in their systems as far as picking players for

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>those specific systems, and where is the value Now, could

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they take a quarterback linebacker? They are taking a quarterback early,

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>could they take a linebacker? Early. Yes, I'd be surprised

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>by it the first two or three packs. No, because

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>that falls into the category of we're gonna do everything

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>we can to help our young quarterback to succeed. And

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes we get wrapped up into running backs

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and think of them. And we talked about this multiple

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>times where I think people are like, oh, you're just

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna handle this guy at the ball. Well. The thing

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>about et N specifically early in the draft is I

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>think you would be a system fit. And talked to

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Dane Brugler about this, and it's also like adding an

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>extra receiver for a young quarterback. Yeah, and you know,

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I know we both liked this player, but you look

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>at some of the running backs later to one guy

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>stands out. Kenneth Gainwell also offers that receiving threat. I

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>think that there are so many different options, and I

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>just feel silly because I feel like we've been saying

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>this for weeks now, but there are so many options

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>at twenty three and it's really all gonna shake out

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and you can move up. And we talked about it,

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>if you like somebody who's starting to fall, and it

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>could potentially happen because you're talking about the top time,

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>but five quarterbacks going a couple of receivers at least

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and Kyle Pitts, so throw the gator out there. So

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>so who who potentially, let me ask you this, who

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>potentially could you see slide at little bit further down

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>where you think, well that might ring a bell around

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>here where maybe you'd consider going up, because I don't

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>think you just go up to go up. Let's just

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>put it that way to me. I think the guy

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that stands out is Elijah Frreck Tucker. Mike t talked

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>about offensive line protecting the quarterback on our previous podcast,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>South Palontonio talked about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers winning the

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl because they protected Tom Brady and the Chiefs

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to not protect Patrick Mahomes. Elijah Vera Tucker is considered

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the best interior offensive lineman in this class. So if

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you're the Jets and you like Vera Tucker and he

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>gets past the Giants out of eleven, I was just

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you, what's the point here, because I don't

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>think he's getting past fifteen. So I I heard today

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>on a different podcast, actually, Dame Brugler's podcast with Lanzerline

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>The over under seventeen and a half because and he

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was saying, well, who's that seventeen? He Las Vegas Raiders

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>who lost Trent Brown, Gabe Jackson, and Rodney Hudson. So

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>could they be in play for someone like Elijah Vera Tucker. Well,

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that if the Jets wanted to make that move,

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they definitely could. I think that's a guy

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that stands out. I also wanted to say that the prospect.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I will say that any guy that is very good,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the dominant a garden then as I has to play

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>left tackle and does it better than anybody out there

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>in the like for example, if J. C. Horne started

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>falling into teams, I don't know if the Jets would

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>make that call. Yeah, well one, I literally do not know.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>But to I don't know if it makes sense to

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>me where you could sit there at twenty three still

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>got a good corner or get a different defensive player.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>And I will say, in terms of trading up with

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the ammunition, the Jets have a thirty four pick, gap

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>pick thirty four pick sixty six thirty two, excuse me,

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And maybe with that extra third round pick, the Jets

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 1>might be inclined to get back up in the second round.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 1>If a player starts falling somewhere in the second round.

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that is also a possibility because

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the Jets have not only two thirds, but two fifths

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>as well, and they got to six. Caleb Farley is

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a intriguing name to me because we've seen him all

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>over the place. How did he check got medically? Not

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>only here but for all the teams because he shoot,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a guy who could go as highs eleven. He

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>could drop out of the first round. We'll be sitting

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>here on Friday and talking about Farley being in the

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>second round with Phillips, right, Jalen Phillips, How am I end?

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>What surprise? What it surprise you? Jalen Phillips went fifteen

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>or fifty? I mean, obviously that would be medical. There

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>would be medical concerns out of came to be true

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>most likely in that scenario. Yeah, for some teams, that

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>might be. I would be surprised if he went to

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the other side of that. I think it's closer to fifteen.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I agree with that for sure.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's so many different scenarios. I will

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>say that the one thing I do want to do

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a little fun game here as we wrap up,

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>because this is the final episode before the draft. And actually, look,

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>let's give a quick preview of what's to come after

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>each night of the draft. Myself, E. A. Anthony Becks,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and Eric Coleman will all break down the Jets selections

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>after each day of the draft. So we'll be back

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday, and we're gonna do

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>three podcasts and then we're gonna recap the whole thing,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>So you gotta stay tuned for that. But with that

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>being said, I need to know because we can revisit

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>this who do you think Friday Thursday night will be

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the Jets second and twenty three overall selections? Not necessarily

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>who you like, but I figured you even want to

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>play this game. No, I'll take two. You can take good. Good. Thanks,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Zack Wilson, b Why you the Carters turned in? God?

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? Who do I think? That's?

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>That's It's well same with twenty three. It's tough, right

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know the board, and and as much

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>as we just discussed about trading up, a trade down

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>might be the play too. If you head, if there's

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a drop off after a certain points, there's there's a

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>few guys that go off, and then you have a

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>big group of players together. And I always give the

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>example of MEM's last year. But on the surface, initially

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that looks like it worked out really good for the Jets.

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 1>So do you think I can give a name? Go ahead,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Eileen Edge if it's defense, and I'm gonna say a

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>zz Augillarry out of Georgia. Don't it make sense? Listen,

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>defense alignement. You can never have enough bodies and he

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.919
<v Speaker 1>can never have enough past which he guys off the edge.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Carl Lawson for a nice defensive line to Carl Lawson

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick out an Auburn a few years back. Um,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Agilar might be the first edge off the

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>board one And if the Jets took him in twenty three,

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>he could be you know, he could be that guy

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>or is it they forementioned Jalen Phillips or is it

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Gregory Russol were so might be a fine in the

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>second round for somebody, say with Jason oh A if

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you really love his traits over his Yeah, that's the

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>other thing that we got talking about again. We're gonna

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>hammer that home is that these guys are gonna get

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>here Rookie Minicamp and then they start a new stage

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and we can't think about any of these prospects as

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>finished materials two years old. They're coming two the respective

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>organizations are starting their career, and that's when the best

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>coaching staffs take the players and they make them into

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>something they envisioned when watching on tape, these guys that

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing on college film. It's good. It's just one

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 1>piece of the puzzle. That's how we wrap up the

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>last episode before the Draft again April Thursday night. We'll

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>be here Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday. We're breaking down

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>each round with Eric Coleman and Anthony Beck. That's all

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>we have on this episode of the Official Jets Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>The Draft Podcast, presented by Pepsi