WEBVTT - Episode 245 w/ Ace Hood 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:18.400 and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.280 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's greed. Is your boy here? 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.720 No R He's a Miami hippoper Lioneer. Up is d 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.280 J e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.800 some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.080 podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk fast drink 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.880 chas motherfuckings New year' z. That's like it's time for 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:49.839 Drink Champs. Trink up, motherfucker mother? Would it good? Beat? 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.879 Hopefully wouldn't s be? This says your boy l What 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.720 up is d J E F And this is drink Chance, motherfucker? 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:02.440 Yappya make some And right now when you're talking about 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.080 Broward County legend, you know what I mean, dear Field 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:13.640 uh legend, uh Florida legend. The man has worked with 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.280 everybody from Applies to Rick Ross to Wile to Tea 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.720 Paying the Birdman the Trick to Waka's a Little Wayne, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.760 to meet Mail the Fabulous, to change the Freshman. I 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.880 don't know what versu he ain't working with. He may 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:33.520 they too, are, and I gotta keep a hundred on 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.520 this intro then throughout this interview. When you think of 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.440 we're the best, is two people that you think of 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.480 who built that company, that was on the forefront on 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.120 that camera, and this is one of them. He stood 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:49.520 next to college they did all uh made history together, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.800 and he went on to do his own independence. He's 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.480 holding it down. He ain't complaining about leaving the team. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.600 He's staying here and he's doing what the hell he 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.600 gotta do. He's out here monkey fucking the game, still 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.240 being renavant, still doing what you gotta do. In case 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.760 you don't know what you tell we're talking about, we 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:13.959 talk about motherfucker, motherfucker now legendary. In the beginning, in 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:19.560 the beginning, In the beginning, Uh, you you wrapped it 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.920 because you're like you're like a rapper, rapper, like like 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.320 you're a lyricist, like I can tell you ain't gonna 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.760 writing the rhyme down and just and and half acid 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.480 understand you one of those two? So how did you 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.520 even develop that in the beginning? And especially I guess 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.640 it's a double double question because a lot of people 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.880 don't look at all souve artists as lyricists, you know 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.359 what I'm saying. So a lot of people, So how 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.000 did you develop that? Like, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.480 being lyrical and then being lyrical first and yeah, so 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.320 being a lyrical thing, bro, I came up on trying 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:59.720 to put it self so so sure, sure I am 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:14.959 Black the Wild Kevin. So you know, I don't know, man, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:16.880 you know what so crazy is that the fact that 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:21.519 South artist wasn't really known for lyricism putting together rhymes 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.640 like that. So it's like, uh, I wanted to be 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.000 a South artist that was able to do so. So 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.240 I listened to a lot of like you know, uh 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.359 up North influence, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.600 like cannabis, big yail, like you know what I mean. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.440 I listened to a lot of people that was really rapping, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.520 people who was really doing a thing. So uh So 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.440 for me, it was always about that. You know, these 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.440 were people who were saying words using terminology and just 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.720 language that which is very different, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.280 So to me, I wanted to have a little bit 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.800 of both because yeah, we got the bounce, but I 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.840 want to be able to say something in my music, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.280 you know, and then obviously being with with with Calli 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.480 and the whole situation was like, uh, the expectation, you know, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.240 once the bar get raised, it's like, that's what we 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.280 at with it. It's nothing. It wasn't out here. It 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:04.040 just wasn't. It was a lot some real stuff like that. 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.240 In terms of the South, that's what people consider. People 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.920 didn't consider us as being lyric like going to going 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.160 to to pick up you and and and you're cool, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.040 like your analogies, the buzz superiors and all that. We 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.159 didn't think that existed. That's why when you bring that 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.440 up and you speak about we thought basic music, but 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.039 we didn't. We didn't like looking from it. And to 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.440 tell you truth, us as consumers at that time, I 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:31.200 think that's all we wanted from the South. Yeah, like that, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:36.880 like I'm sorry, I don't know, I'm say that you're 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.160 looking at me grazy. Did you ever received slack by 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.760 being so lyrical? Like did anybody saying, you know, you're 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.840 too lirial, you get out of here? Yeah? Bro? So 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.839 um oh, this is interesting because in the in the beginning, 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.799 I came in so lyrical and I wanted to wrap 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.159 you know what I mean I wanted to be on 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.960 some lyrical, typrical, pyrical, the different thing, you know what 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.720 I mean, cannabis you know you don't those Canadas, right, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.599 you know what I'm saying. Like I wanted to be 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.200 on that type of ship. I wanted to really wrap 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.360 but coming into the game in the industry, like I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.920 was taught that you had to dumb it down. You 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.840 did like you know, um, I was taught that at 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.039 that particular time that the consumer that wasn't what the 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.280 consumer was was looking for when they wanted to have 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.560 a good time. Like just the people that I'm around, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.240 you know, like your crew, like it's my crew. It's 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.159 the industry focused the people that believe that it was 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.839 you know, partly like Kalim because because you're not in 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.680 a way of saying that you can't be lyrical. But 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.320 just um, it's different when you're trying to create a 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.240 radio record or record, you know what I'm saying. So 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.400 I know, I don't know that in retrospect they were 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.240 probably wrong, but I and they said jay Z did 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.560 the same thing. Well, I mean that's what I was 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.719 told because even did the same thing. It's widely yeast 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.320 b and I mean, I don't know at what point, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.000 but it's what I mean. I don't know if this 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:57.960 is a rumor, but it's widely knowing that he said 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.120 that he had to bring it to a level where 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.640 he wanted to bring people in so that everybody could understand, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.400 and then he was gonna raise the bar once he 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.960 had them. That's what that's what that's that's because I 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.840 looked at two Box whole career. I've never seen him 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.240 dumb it down, not at one point have to hit 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.680 me up and front like two bocks dumb down. I 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.640 think he had more in some cases. I think I 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.880 think Too Popular went deeper with some of it, you 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.520 know what I'm saying, But not not really. And you yourself, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.520 you've ever dumbed it down? Yeah? Yeah, for sure, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.880 because you know, when you're trying to learn, you know, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.039 you're trying to build a fan base. You know, it's 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:33.880 it's you know, you know, you're listening to the people 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.560 that've done it before, you know what I'm saying, So 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.960 it's like, um, you know, you gotta experiment, man, you 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.599 know what I'm saying. So that that's really what it 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.120 was like for me. It was like, all right, cool. 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.880 So I know I have to dumb it down and 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.160 know to create in order to create certain records. But 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.360 I also know that, um, you know, I got so 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:51.760 much more in me, you know what I mean. I 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.320 can tell real stories and stuff like that. You listen 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.320 to nas, you listen to people like yourself, like you're 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.040 her stories. I like that take me on a journey 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.480 throughout this, you know what I'm say and like, So 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.840 that's that's more so where I'm at now in my mind. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.080 Now I'm Deerfield Beach right now. Growing up there? Who 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.200 was your who was your influences? Because I'm sure it's 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.440 very cliche to say trick daddy, but it's just some 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:25.640 difficult Uh yeah, I want to know too. Yeah. So, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.680 so coming up the Deerfield legends were they weren't in 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.160 music though, you know what I mean, They weren't musicians. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.120 These guys with ballplayers. I grew up playing football. That 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.440 was my thing. So what I'm saying, so like all 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.200 the legends, you know a lot of people that you 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.040 see in the NFL or whatever, like these are the 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.080 people that we just came up looking up towards, you 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.000 know what I mean, Like Tyrone, mass of these guys, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.760 and you had like I grew up playing with Patrick Peterson, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.400 you know what I'm saying, and uh so many other 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:58.360 guys JP, p um uh. Just just those type of people, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.000 you know. We was really I grew up looking up 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.400 to like Dion Santas. I wanted to be like growing up, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.240 you feel me like Crown Time. So it was more 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.400 so of that. And on the music side I looked 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.000 up to more so you know, you got the waynes 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:11.640 we had the soldier slim like. I was big on 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.080 that South type stuff. So um so that that was 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.560 really where my influence came from when I was young. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.120 You know, we all wanted to on our foe Willis Yea, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.480 I played football. Yeah. Not. The funny thing is when 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.840 I didn't live out here, I always looked at it 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.040 always be in Miami, meaning let's talk about that Phil Beach. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.960 I thought that was Miami. About Hollywood, I thought that 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.040 was Miami. Uh for a lot of them know what's Miami? Uh, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.840 what's the what's my man called that black come from? 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.880 All These plays are very different. You gotta live out 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.840 here to know that because once they see once you 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.160 land and you see the palm trees and you see 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:53.560 the same dregs and the same goals. Yeah, it wasn't 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.719 till I got here, like you know, you know the 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.800 brook and the Queen's rivalry, the queens within Queen's rivalry, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.280 and I started like you know, the cop up Browner County. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.200 Uh day, was you on that side of the fence 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.880 where like you know, it was hard for you. So 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.200 so for us bro growing up where we're from, it 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:18.920 was it was it was Haitian American issues, Faitians Americans. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:26.400 So literally like in high school, you know you so 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.800 in high school in the elementary like, so that was 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.920 the main thing. And where I stayed at, which is 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.640 interesting is that, Um, I grew up in an all 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.360 Haitian neighborhood, which is why I came into the game 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.400 with so many zos and all my homies, like so 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.320 that's my my brotherhood. It's like my family, you know. Um. 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.760 And the Americans grew up on the west side. So 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.960 that was always an issue because I'm an American and 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.400 like you know what I'm saying, like or just like 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.400 right like American, right, Um, But that was the rival 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.200 issue going on. So you had a lot of people 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.320 selling drugs on this side and doing their thing and 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.160 hustling and doing that business or whatever. But them guys 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.760 from this side can't come to this side, you know. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.480 And if you're from that side, you can't come to 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.240 that side. And I'm from this side, but I got 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.000 homes from that west side. So that was always like 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.600 it's New York is looking at looking at all of y'all, everybody, 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.960 like this is happening in Deerfield. This is like three 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.840 minutes down the street. Like if I'm staying on sixty sixty, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.520 sixty street, whatever, you got the other homies there on 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.559 the west side, and it's it's always it's back and 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.719 forth beef. Now you got homies pulling up on the 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.280 block doing what they do. You got homies pulling up 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:32.800 on our block doing what they do. And it's like, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.079 if you ain't sail nothing in this area, if you 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.200 ain't do nothing to contribute to this area, you can't 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:41.240 really come to this area per se. But real Florida 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.640 is they think Florida Miami. Everything is south. Like if 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.040 you're talking about on some ship and I'm not just 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.920 saying this, but if you're talking about like the trenches 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.800 of Brower County. You're talking about deer Field pumping the period. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.960 If you're talking about that's what I believe, like um pumping, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.760 you know, like yeah, and what's so crazy about that? 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.480 It's literally like deer Filt pamplot was one and the 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.040 same because eventually, like our area cold and it got 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.840 switched from Deerfield to actually complace. I didn't understand who COOLDA. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.720 Black was and like, you know how he was doing 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.720 his tactics until I started hanging out with people that 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.240 that's like him, and I'm like, okay, this is look 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.920 like they're all a little crazy, got mad sense, got 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:25.960 math sense. So um, so I'll tell us. The difference, Uh, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.000 had you been from Miami would have been a difference 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.520 in in in anything you have done. Yeah, that would 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.280 have been different. There would have been a different swaggle, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.560 for sure. I think there would have been definitely a 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.520 different swag, different ideas about myself, you know. Um, you know, 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.480 Miami was much more different. You know, Miami used to 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.640 consider themselves as a little bit more forward than than 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.600 Broward County was. Right, So when UH say they was 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.800 on let's say fitted jeans and fitted shirts, Broward County, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.840 we were still. Uh you know two x three shirts. 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.760 You know what I'm saying, box you pull up, we 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.840 still they still playing the Boosey and all over right 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.360 before you saying so, I think it just would have 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.760 been different. And I think that's such a prominent point 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.280 for me in my career because I received it was 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.480 so much like hatred because of that, because of the 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.360 moves in the beginning, because like when people say hatred 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.880 not from not from your I mean just because like 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.320 you know, so the biggest thing was that I was 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:29.000 from I'm from Deerfield, but shooting content in Miami, you 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:34.079 went through that, huh for you like, because like you know, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.920 I wasn't from left Back. My first video was in 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.319 queens Bridge. They did not let they did not let 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.600 me go down. I had no power. I had no power, right, Okay, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.920 So the people were left Frock like queens Bridge, You're 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:46.960 Queen's Bridge, dude. I'm like, no, I'm from left Frax. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.439 If you're gonna look at this time of my album, 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.440 I had to say left Frac three thirty six hundred 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.280 times to make sure I did not playing queens Bridge. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.559 I had no power at the time ahead and that's 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.440 the issue that I was dealing with because I felt 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.760 like I needed to go back and say, dear Field 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.080 and in the city constantly, so now popping up in 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.200 the city. Now we shooting videos in the city. But 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.720 you know, eventually, over time I started to learn that 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.520 it wasn't really about that, you know what I'm saying, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 Because constantly people was trying to attach me to Miami. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.840 And every time somebody would, I'm like, bro, I'm not 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.320 from Miami. I ain't grow up in the streets. That 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.320 ain't my hood. And you understand, like I take that 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.560 to heart because I don't know them parts. And if 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:21.960 like you know, like we grew up and you don't 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.600 know them parts, you can't really speak on that, you 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.760 know what I'm saying. It's just simple and plain. So 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.800 for me, I understood the idea of them like cool. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.120 But everything I would say, yo, brow would not if 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.880 our fault was on my skin is in my life. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.880 Like I took it around the world, I moved it, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.599 you know what I'm saying. So you know, that was 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.959 the biggest issue because Miami do things in a very 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.719 different way than I feel like a brow would do it. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.560 You know what I'm saying. A lot of cocaine. If 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:50.960 you know who knows? I want to take a shot. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:56.640 I want to take a shot. Shot man, I'm here, yes, yes, sir, um, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.400 I need you know. We heard you around guy, so 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.240 we got you. We heard you the bamboo, so we 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.000 got you that. I got you that tune. I'm gonna 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.240 do the regular. You know some mom wanna No, I'm sorry, um, yeah, 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.679 I'm gonna be honest. You have a conversation about the 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.120 how much you like the mama wanna? But I'm putting 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:23.560 in here now behind the paddle. No, I'm gonna do regular. 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:31.880 She wants some bamboo I'm gonna do and we don't. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.280 We don't know if you know. But our sure was 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.800 about celebrating people. You know, so many people want to 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.560 get rid of people. And you know, I'm gonna looking 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.320 at your crib. You have career, you have a lot 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.720 of trials and trip relations daughter ups and downs, but 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.680 you stay solid. You stayed you know down, you stayed loyal. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.960 And we're gonna get into all that, but we're gonna 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:54.520 salute you as we get in solid. Okay, So I 0:14:54.560 --> 0:15:00.200 want the shot before I go on. Go on, think 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.960 you ain't gotta life? Come on, man, you see some more. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.240 Come on, what's going on? Every life on the room 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:12.600 was disappointed right now? Come on, come on, but hey, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.200 I'll get it, do it. So Trials and Triple Relation 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.440 seven on going over the place. Um, what made you 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:22.280 name your album that at that time? Ah? Ship oh man, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.960 I would going through a lot of trials at that 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:29.800 particular time. Um, what was I do actually dealing with 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.440 at that time? With trials and tribulations? That was bug 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:40.240 on there and that was hard. Um, Trials and tribulations 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.720 was like the the answer to what I had been through, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.359 you know, in order to like, uh, to solidify myself 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.160 as an artist. You know, I felt like I had 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.280 great records in the beginning, but I felt like it 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.479 wasn't up until Hustle Hard was like my self proclaimed 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.840 record that was like the record people know me for. 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.240 And I feel like in any artist's career, I think 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.160 it's important for you to have a self establishing record 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:10.320 for yourself. And to me, Hustle Hard was gonna like 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.720 I know, but I say that to paying in of 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.280 just trials and tribulations, I feel like I was just 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.200 dealing with I would just I was dealing with so much, man, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.800 I think in terms of just taking care of my family, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.000 you know what I mean, and trying to take care 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.360 of my family and everybody in my family and take 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.160 care of myself and also still trying to be president 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.960 and create records and and and you know what I'm saying, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.240 and had these ideas and make sure that these are 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.960 my ideas and not someone else's ideas. Make sure like 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.080 I'm fully involved in the process of doing that, and 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.440 make sure I'm seeing my children at the same token. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.360 Since I say I'm doing I'm doing all of this 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.040 for the people that I love. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.400 You want to I want to make sure I'm spending 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.640 time with these people. So I was just going through 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.520 like I was just trying to find my balance and 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.160 know what I'm saying, So trials and tribulations for me 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.960 at that point was just you know, I just needed 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.040 to overcome something, man, and really just like get my 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.320 feet planning for real, for real, because I felt like 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.520 I was, I guess, being overcome in some way man, 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.840 you know, or just figuring it out. Just that too, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.720 that too, that too, and point you did cash for? 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.200 I did cash for That was like one of the 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.920 first records I did. That was after I'm So Hood, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.240 but I'm So Hood didn't come out. No, no no, no, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.800 that was before man, Yeah, that was before. So that 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.800 was like two thousand and eight, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.320 That was like one of the first few records. So 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.720 once we decided, once I got signed to the whole 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.359 were the best situation. Like we went in and we 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.840 started to create records like right away. So that was 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.440 one of the records that came out of the batch. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.960 Cooling and Drade was a part of that record. You 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.680 know what I'm saying. Shout out Cooling and Drade them 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.520 called them, came in and we just wanted to create 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.520 some special man, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.480 like just to have the idea of having Tee pain 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.800 and rost him on that ship was nasty, bro. He 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:57.480 was that yeah. Yeah, so all right take the shot. Okay, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:05.600 I'm ready, baby Solo Solottle back out. So Collins has 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:11.440 this radio station in nine Yeah, and one of your 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.560 boys got the plug to tell you that he's dead 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.639 or you just figure I'm gonna just pull up my 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.000 boy hold him on the radio. At that time, he 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.760 heard him on the radio and it was like some 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.760 type of contest or something like he had he had 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.080 going on. So when he he when he hit me 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:26.719 about it, he came to the crib and I was like, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.800 he was like, yo, catched up at ninety nine jams. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.080 Like I'm like, so what that means? Like you know 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.639 what we're doing? He's like, Yeah, We're gonna go up 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.600 to the radio station and like try to wrap for 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.040 bro like records at the time, or you were just 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:43.199 going into rap records, because you know, they pull up, right, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.080 we pull up. We pull up. First of all, we 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.440 in the merk. We're in the Mercury, the Mercury leaning 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.400 on over y'all, you know, and Paul is the old 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.600 school's back then. You know what what I'm saying, I ain't 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.360 gonna I'm gonna let you have this. Yeah you don't 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:59.800 know what you're talking about it, but it's a Mercury, right, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:01.960 But that's the call. You know, they fixed him up. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.520 They were like the bubble, the bubble, Chevyes backing and 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.399 all that good stuffy and policy. So we in that. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.440 You know, I think it's important to say that because 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.639 of just what that representing. You feel me like the 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.520 sound system work you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.960 you know, we're trying to get it. It's right, you 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.119 know what I'm saying. So we pull up at the 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.440 radio station. The gate is open. God normally the gates club. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.880 So we pull up. The gate is open. I knew 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.080 it was God. I knew he was all costrated. We 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.000 pulled up. As soon as we get in there, Calip 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.160 pull up five minutes later. I never forget it because 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.000 I've seen the way that baby blue fanom pulled up 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.960 in the vibe. It was it was nasty, right, he 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.000 pulled up, he hopped out. Now keep in mind now 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.159 I think this is important too for like you know, 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.600 in general what the game is different. But back then, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.600 like as an artist, you had to be prepared. So 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.360 I had a bio, I had a picture, I had 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.000 CD with my songs on it, everything in an envelope 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.359 and I ain't playing. So look at my instagram right, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:07.240 just right right, you go to my Instagram like like 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.000 you're gonna do it outside or like you know what 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.159 I'm saying. Me and them like yo, boom whatever. But 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.840 so we the count of them, man, we're hanging out 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:15.919 and the callous like when you walked up on him. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:20.520 He's not hesitant because yeah, people pull up right for 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.639 two weeks later, right or something? He called so he 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.560 hit he hit back that night, but I was skipping. Yeah, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.600 you gotta give He gave him the CD. We gave 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.280 the CD right because I wanted them. Yeah, I wanted 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.639 to rap for him. I couldn't wrap for him. He 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:34.719 had this radio station. He had to be that six fifteen, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.000 six thirty, right, you gotta be doing this thing. So 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.840 I didn't. I didn't hear back or hear anything until 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.320 like the following day, you know, like he hit my 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.960 manager back. That same night, I was having a conversation 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.080 with him and was like yo boo boom boom. I 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.240 like what I heard. I hear the hunger, like I 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.800 want to work with this guy. And from there two 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.000 weeks later when we had the prior meeting to actually 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.800 signing and you know and figuring out what we want 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.399 to do. When he sent you, I'm so was he 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.720 paying on there was anybody on there or he just 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.679 seen you to beat pain was on the Yeah, he 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.760 sent me, so he sent me to you know, bro, 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.080 that's it's it's crazy when I think about it, because 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.800 just in my mind of hearing that song, right, being 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.720 in Club Boker with the homies, not even knowing Cali 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.639 and not even knowing nothing, right, you know about that 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.200 club Boker, So like were enough vibing with the homies 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:28.240 and like, definitely true, let's go crazy. So in my mind, 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.240 we're catching the vibe. And so for him to send 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.520 me a record that got t paining hooked but a 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.560 free verse and then this hook come back, I felt 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.399 like I was like, man, that's like, this is no, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.119 this is not a normal opportunity. Keep paying on the 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.280 hook and it ain't like orchestrated to put this together. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.280 I took a little piece of ripping when I said that. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.600 I just felt like I gotta, I gotta, you know, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.480 I gotta come with it. I wrote like five six verses, bro, 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.600 I went to the studio at the same time show 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.359 and uh. And from there, man, once I you know, 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.119 knocked the verses and I recorded the verses that slipping slide. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:12.400 I think that's important. Yeah yeah, so Lucas and then 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.199 and then what have happened? Laid five verses or you 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.040 wrote five verses? I laid five verses and I wrote 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:19.960 five verse and I just took the best too, and 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.080 I sent him that you know what I'm saying, so 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.000 he can what was that moment? And in sending that, 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.119 man he called me right back and which is like, bro, 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.800 like I love it. I love it. He said, Man, 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:31.760 I hear that dog, I hear that hunger, and like, 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.040 let's do something. We're gonna have him meeting Boom boom. 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.040 He had the office across the street from the radio station. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.239 We linked up at that spot the next time and 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.000 we were sitting down talking about having the deal man 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:42.760 and him wanting to sign me. Like my guy at 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.560 that particular time wanted it to be about dollars and deals. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.080 We wanted to get like he wanted to get a 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.720 label situation. But at that time he was only interested 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.840 in signing me. So um so yeah man. So that 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.000 from there it was it was history. Broa yeah, straight up, 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:05.880 I got notes. You know I'm in this. I'm yeah down, okay, okay, okay, 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:16.879 let me okay okay. We had a lot of I 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:21.920 don't want to wrong okay, so boom to get with 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:30.399 college hustle Hall doesn't come out yet, right what you 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.720 cash roll comes out? First? Cash roll comes out? Yet 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.320 this first time flying to New York. I flew to 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.080 New York once we ended up figuring out the deal. 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.280 My first time I were going to New York. Who 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.160 flew to New York to go see l a read 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.479 and he was with Deaf Jam at that time. So 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.840 at this time I had cash flow. I had the 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.000 stressing record that I recorded with applies. Did he have chapstick? 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:56.520 Feel like he was put on chapstick. I just feel 0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:01.040 like he was. He wasn't about man. Every time I've 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.639 seen him putting on the chapter what are you doing man? 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:06.840 He put he got the other ship, the lip bomb. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.840 Come on, you got to stop, you gotta last. He said, 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:13.919 He's a genious. He's a genious to be signed you, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.920 that means you hill. So yeah, fly to New York. 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.000 Are you nervous because because because you know this is 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.600 a possibility, he can fly, he can introduce you, you know, 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.359 because right now they can look at your looking on 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.960 Instagram and say, oh, I like the way you look. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.960 But this is if you're going to New York. This 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:31.720 is to look at how you look in your face, 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.159 to see how you perform to see So are you 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.200 are you nervous or do you even do you even 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.960 know this process is happening? The pep talk before you 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.120 get there. I'm beyond nervous, first of all, because I'm 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.720 first of all, I'm flying. It's my first time ever flying, 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.520 It's my first time everything. It wasn't it was the 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.960 first time for everything, first time flying, first time being 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.320 in New York, first time. You know, we had missed 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.320 the child at that time, first time having missed the 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.040 child in the office. Bro, I'm so nervous, bro. But 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.399 the PEPs hall right, this was like this is the 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.080 Illis ship about Kalid? Right? Is that his level of 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.720 like the way he's able to motivate you or this 0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:10.800 l a read we gotta go this how they read 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.840 you gotta you gotta sell this, like make him feel 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:18.760 like yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:23.800 yo yo yo. You can't play like it's a chance 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.320 to like it's not a game, like we gotta do 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.960 I can seek up. It's like what I'm saying, Like 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:33.679 it's like like that's that's that's the energy. So for me, 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.439 that's all I need to hear him. You with me, 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.600 you affirm me, We in it's together. Let's do this, 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.520 Like you know what I'm saying, so for me, as 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:41.920 soon as I get in up with l A read 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.040 like you know I come from like I come from 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.359 the hood. I come from did feel like down the street, 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.480 the projects. We gotta home me So I need this. 0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.520 I ain't even to play with this opportunity for me. 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.320 So I spill it all. I give it all. I 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.560 mean they get emotion on everything they're giving him. That 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.400 stress in Verse repplies on it. I mean nothing going 0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.600 hard with that cash floor. You're gonna feel me, you 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.320 feel me like and he felt that, you know for 0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:04.480 for then, Man, we were signing the deal, I stepped 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.800 at the room. We was inking the deal, big MR's 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:11.280 what I'm asking, what's that moment like when you step 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.760 out the room, because I get the gotta be a 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.080 moment when they're talking to were you not there? Yeah? 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:19.520 Is what it is? What's going through your mind at 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.040 this time? The moment after I left the room, I 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.240 felt fulfilled and I felt like I did that. I 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.240 left it there, but like you got yeah yeah, or 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.159 even if I didn't like I left it, you know 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.040 what I'm saying, Like like I did my part, You 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.800 know what I'm saying. That's how I feel about it. 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.480 It's like, as long as I show up and I 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.879 do what I'm supposed to do. However you choose the 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.280 whatever decision you made, I'm a right with it. Goddamn 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:47.800 you did what I'm saying, my brother salute brothers? Was 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.879 the moment in the music industry when you realized this 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.080 ain't all the track? Oh yeah? What was that moment 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.600 like for you when it hit the realization? And I 0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.600 hit that realization, bro, it was was it was? It 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:04.600 was scary, you know, because I think once I got 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:09.239 to that realization that you know, I came into the 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.399 game as a as a you know, young buck. I 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.720 was eighteen nineteen years old, knowing that I didn't acquire 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.639 much about the business, knowing that I didn't ask to 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.040 really see certain things, knowing that I was um, I 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.639 didn't have it on any insight about what budgeting was 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.439 for me, Knowing that I didn't have you know, I 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.440 was just the workhorse. I didn't, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.680 I think that was the thing because I didn't. Once 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.760 I started to put it together, I started to understand 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.400 of like, man, I could be I could be tangled 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.040 into something that I have no idea how to get 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.560 myself out of you know what I'm saying, like, because 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.439 as you started to get older, right, you started to mature, 0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:45.840 and when you're young, you want the money. You know 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.400 what I'm saying. For me, it's like, cool, I want 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.439 to be able to supply you know, you know, like 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.520 provide for my mother because my mother was struggling. You 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.640 know what I'm saying, Like nobody around her couldn't really 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.840 do anything. So it was like for me, I felt 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.320 like I needed to be the man that step up. 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.919 So in my mind, this money is gonna help. You know, 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.960 when you're young, this money is gonna help provide for 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.240 my family. So you ain't thinking about what that contract 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.159 of what business will look like later on until you 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:11.119 get older and then started asking questions, right, So I 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.040 think that's when I started to see that, uh you know. 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.119 And then even with politics, I never really liked the 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.640 politics ship in music, you know what I'm saying, um 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.600 in the beginning, But once I learned it, I understood 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.440 it and I respected. But you know when people when 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.359 we say we're brothers and we do certain things, I 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.920 took that to heart because the industry, it's just what 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.239 I started to learn like, oh, when it comes from real, 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:40.080 come to certain right, one is not bullshit. Everybody ain't real, 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.200 that's what and that's what. And when I let that 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.440 was the toughest part because I'm like, damn, but I 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.720 thought this person not speaking to the people that I 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:56.280 was close. Just tell you, my brother, but when I send, 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.240 you won't try me. I'm like, damn, but I thought 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.880 we were Okay, I get it, but I and I 0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:02.760 know at that point. But you know, if I would 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.600 have knew in advance, like I could have, I would 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:08.800 have knew it would expect I could have managed my expectations. Um, 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:10.320 but that ain't happen. So it's just seeing a little 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.160 shit like that. I'm just like and just ideas that 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:14.840 people will have, you know what I mean, It could 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:16.479 just kind of just turn me. Well, I'm just like, 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.800 this ain't real logical. This ain't even like I'm like, 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:21.560 what Nick is doing in this ship, Like you ain't 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360 trying to become better people? Why we gotta like, am 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.680 I just trapped in being this one person? And I 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.920 gotta beat this person my entire career, That's what I'm saying. 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.520 I'm like, I can't evolve and grow up and be no. No, 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.360 that's why I went artists a lot of times. I mean, 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.560 you gotta tell you the truth. You got it better 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.560 than a lot of people who called the road deal 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.080 or anything or you know, I have to leave every 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.280 established label because they wanted to go on their own. 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.200 A lot of people what they would do is they'll 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:54.479 become this artist and they'll be and an artist. If 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.880 you complain about your rights and you're an artist, you're problematic, right, 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.360 that's sucked up, that's fucked up, that's funked up. That 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.080 like you know what, I'm glad you put me on. 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:05.880 I'm glad that you put me into place. I'm glad 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.040 that this label helped me out. But look this parting, right, 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.880 can we just correct that? Most people will say, no, 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.360 are you a millionaire? Can you pull up in the 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.040 range of what can you put up in the mayback? 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:18.560 Can you put up in such? Why do you why 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.520 you need to correct something that you're already good at? 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.800 And it's like, because I don't want to be perfect, 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.320 but I want my ship to be right. But if 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.040 you do that, then you're you're known as a problematic artist. 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.640 Like as you were leaving the are we the best? 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.560 That was you receiving those type of things like what 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.440 people spreading rooms like jay One's or something telling people 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:41.360 don't with the hood. You know these people? And I 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:48.760 wasn't leaving. What did you were? Sorry? Where that was 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.120 the beginning? Well, he was a def jam happened in 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.920 the beginning. At some point we moved from def jam. 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.440 Def jam was only my first two projects and then 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.600 we have to cash projects. Those projects got finished with them. 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.520 Because at one point, I'm stoping, You're going right back 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.720 to this. Remember that question. Remember what the question was? 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.200 What was it? Remember? Please? Because I felt like you 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.840 were the face of the weed the best death jam, 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.640 things like did you feel like you want to face 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.120 at that time? Yes? Okay, yes, alright, I did feel 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.240 like that. I always felt like that, right, yeah, okay, 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.120 we're gonna get back to that. What was the other 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:27.120 Guess what was I saying? You know what you were saying? Yea? 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.680 And he was he was saying he fulfilled the death 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.000 jam projects? And when was it that the breakup happens? 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.040 At what point in the business dealings you have another 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.600 is it cash money? At that point we were under 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.920 cash money contract with two people so this is how 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.640 it happened. So originally I started with death Jam, and 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.880 then after Death Jam with the first two albums, I 0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.560 ended up moving. Um, we ended up going to Universal, 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.720 which was cash Money, right, cash Money, who got in 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:59.280 all that other stuff? Right? Um? Then Issue started to 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.400 stir up Cash Money Universal. You remember that when they 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.680 had the issues and just things would just happen when 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.719 you called it, right, I'm calling the melee We always 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.040 you know, even with the label. So it's like you know, 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.880 people trying to just keep you know, keep what they 0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.600 can keep type of things. So you know, Brot wanted 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.040 to make his own decision to kind of do his 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.480 own thing, like you know, he wanted to be his 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.600 own independent field. So he wanted to kind of separate. Yeah, 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.800 Keli wanted to separate from the Universal Music and kind 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.400 of do something different. You know what I'm saying. He 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:31.920 wanted to be more independent. Okay, is that leaving you 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.560 guys are the label all the artists left behind by 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:39.000 doing that, Well, he wanted to branch off. So yes, 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.200 it would be like you know, handling this business in 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.120 this way and then taking that you know, your imprint 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.160 and making it independent. And then we were under red 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.120 Sony Red distribution Sony read is when the issue started 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:57.400 to start stop because I think, like you said, there 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.840 was a certain level I was invested in the way 0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:03.040 the US right. I felt like me and Brod created 0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.239 that together. If you were not brand on sleeve, if 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.160 you thought about we the best, you thought about you 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.400 thought about Ace, you thought about calin facts, it wasn't 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.400 one without the other. It's just what it was. You 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:18.160 feel me. Um So, I felt like it was like 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.400 damon j at one point. That's how I felt, And 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.520 I thought, you know, I thought that we were just man, 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:28.080 you know what I'm saying. So for me, I had right. 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.840 I didn't like the fact that the decision was made 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.560 without me. I didn't like that the fact that the 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.560 decision was made to part ways from our distribution and 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.720 may not know about it, and you decide solely to 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.120 say we're gonna take this one imprint and go over 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.440 here him and do this granted rightfully, rightfully distribution? Was 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.680 you um mad that you was leaving Universal just because 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.680 we were at we were we were with Universal going 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.720 from Universal to something that's more independent, which you know, 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:58.280 which was then D. Yeah, it was just the principle 0:33:58.400 --> 0:33:59.920 for me was the fact that I felt like were 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.720 sated this thing together that now we should make all 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.800 the decisions. But this was a decision that I felt 0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.160 like I thought we were brothers enough that you would 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.319 come to me about this decision type of thing in 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.400 some way, you know what I mean. And maybe he 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.799 feels wrong that or don't feel the same way that 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.120 that I could even be in a position to say that, 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.880 But I felt like we built this. I contribute out 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.400 you know what I mean. I wrapped that ships on 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:21.719 my skin. I didn't you know what I mean, I 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.320 was out here. People knew that. So for me, the 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.440 decision to take it from one thing to another was 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.800 an issue for me, you know, because then I started 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.120 to understand that my it's not about my decision, you know, 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.239 and you I'm sorry to cut you off that no, 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.080 Like he didn't even call you and say listen, no, no, no, no. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.600 So this so once he made a decision, it was 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.680 like final with Sony read and it was happening like 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.839 that's when the conversation actually happened, you know what I'm 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.440 saying with us, And I felt blown away because I 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.600 felt like I wasn't prepared for it. There's ideas and 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.760 there's things that I wanted to do that I felt 0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.880 like I needed a major, a major backing to do so, 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.279 you know, And I just think like the decision even 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.279 though for him, yes, it's your brand at the take 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.320 it like he maybe he felt like, well, it's my brand. 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.600 I don't I created it, right, But I feel on 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:13.040 your in it's like it's impacting your career because only 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:17.399 because only because the moment this imprint started, which means 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.279 that the moment you knew about it, the hood was 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.839 signed to it and it don't and it existed at 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.680 the point I think you felt like it was created 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.640 around you, not around me. No, I don't feel like 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.880 it was created. I feel like I was the first 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.080 representation of that brand of what I'll tell you the 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.240 misunderstanding right there, right Like when you sign an artist, 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.000 it's like signed, it's like signing the baby, right, and 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.440 it's your baby, that's what they say, that's my baby, 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:46.120 like sometimes right, but as the artist grows, sometimes you 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.480 still give the artist information, you still give them perish, 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.520 but you're not realizing that artists got teeth now and 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.680 the artists actually want doesn't want purists. No More doesn't 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.600 want baby fool and it deserves to say, you know 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:03.920 what you got be eating chicken? Now, all right, that's cool, 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.080 but why are we eating chicken? Okay? And why do 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.600 you want to change? Why? And that's and that's just 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.240 what it is. I understand his position because it's his comform, 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.360 and as I understand that you you wasn't eating partridge 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.320 no More, right, it was your m at least no, 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:22.799 you know what I'm saying. So I get where your 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:26.520 coming myself too, Like I'm an artist, and that really 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.839 goes with what you're saying. You were the flagship right right, 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.640 And and I'm not saying that I wanted to know 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.920 all the ins and outs of his business or anything. 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.520 I just think just think that anything that affects me 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.800 I should be in part. I should be, you know, 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.000 within that conversation. You know what I'm saying. I just 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.440 think that's right, and I think that's fair, not even 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.080 about being right, I just think that's fair. You know 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:50.840 what I'm saying. If you're gonna decide to take that, 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.680 and yo, so I'm just decided to. I'm just sign 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.000 to take I know we were with blog, but we're 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:57.719 gonna move over. And you know what I'm saying, That 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.040 way we're in it together, right, and that way it 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.279 doesn't feel like I'm excluded in that. You can, you 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.080 solely can make these decisions. Now, who in ald mind? 0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.040 What does that say about me? If you can just 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.600 decide anytime you want to take this thing and do 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.200 what you want with it. And that was that I'm 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.040 supposed to follow behind and do what you want with 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:18.919 it too. But one man percent, when you're on Miami Heat, 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.600 you get traded to the next tomorrow, right, and you 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.520 won't have no motherfucker decision on that. Maybe that's really 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.719 you know what I'm saying. So you just wanted the 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.680 courtesy is what he wanted, the curt But I just 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.560 don't want to try to say it. Sometimes you don't 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:40.279 get that courtesy, Like what now official, it's like this, 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.880 you play for the Raptors, You're like only movie. The 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.520 check is still there's But that's what he's likely looking at. 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.759 I'm just being deaf. Was out of right? Look like yo, 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.439 check is still gonna be there. Everything in either way 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.600 how I am and how one built, I respect the decision, 0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.279 the decision either way either way I respected it. At 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:01.799 the end of the day, I understand that it's about 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.320 it's your thing, it's what you want to do with it. 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.239 I just wanted that, and they're like, I'm gonna hate you. 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.400 I just wanted to have that input of just but 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.640 since I didn't get it's still cool, there's nothing whatever. 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.520 But it's just raised a question in my mind of 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:16.040 like what maybe you should kind of like start focusing 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.600 on the things that you would really want to like 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.080 and the things that you really want to create and 0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.640 really want to bring forth right, because if someone else 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.719 is doing it, like you know, we all want to 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.160 do it. We all want to create and bring a 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.479 certain level of energy and inspiration and motivation into the world, 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.000 into the minds and the hearts of people, you know 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.279 what I'm saying. Like, of course, so it raised that 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.840 opportunity in my mind of like, okay, like you know, 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.160 and I respect that because you know, I'm always if 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.120 I laid my bed, I'm gonna laying it peacefully. You know. 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.719 If I made that bad, I ain't tripping, you know 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:47.440 what I'm saying, Like, that's just being a real one. 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.320 You know, I'm bouncing around because I'm coming back to 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:56.200 the I love, yeah, but how much pictures you cash? 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:02.960 Just like y'all was like like, I'm sorry, back to 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.319 these sessions was crazy. I'm sure you usually speak about 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.680 any thing in the building like come on, how like 0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.880 how crazy was it? Like you know what your groupie days? 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.560 My my my groupie days was? It was? It was exciting, 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.120 It was exciting. It was very last for you to 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.520 see what I'm saying. It was exciting after now that 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.680 we're not groupies no more because if we're groopy too, 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.920 you know, we're not only massive boobies. It was a 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.600 lot of us act like oh you know, you know 0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:35.719 I was young, Like no, that was ye, Like it's 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.640 exciting and fun, okay, because I respect that. Goddamn it. 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.200 Like the days them ship, it was amazing. It was amazing, bro. 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.279 I love every minute of it because you know, as 0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.399 lessons and all of that, you didn't know what I'm saying. 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:51.000 So you know, I had the studio with your shirt 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:55.520 off kids. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have them all in 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.560 the studio. We're gonna pack them and we're gonna vibe, 0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.440 you know under staying Like the thing about me, I've 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.799 always been a man of respect, I've always treated women 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.680 with the utmost respect. That's how I moved and the people, 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.680 you know what I'm saying, Like it's just period, you 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.400 know what I'm saying. So even before this, like you know, 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.960 I was never on the wow wow wildness, but I 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:13.600 was the type of person that I like what I like, 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.320 which means that if I have, like some women that 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.320 I'm involved with or whatever, it's like a few pieces 0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.120 that's outstanding, and we take trips and we do flash 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.759 it and then like you know what I'm saying, and 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.520 I rocked with that. I'm the time. I can rock 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.360 with that for a year, two years, like you know 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.520 what I'm saying, And that's just my little thing, you know, 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:30.160 mean my little shorty or whatever. And then I got 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.320 my other little shorty like type of thing, so that 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.440 was like my field. I got beautiful pieces. That's how 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.680 I am. Detail beautiful pieces. And we're gonna look like 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:42.359 that Molly involved. You don't ain't dumb money. I ain't 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.000 never do money. This is some ship I heard. I 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:53.600 heard about the Molly conversation and all that. But right 0:40:53.600 --> 0:41:00.560 now we're looking forward. Me too, you know, I don't 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.360 even to that later that you've never nothing. Just this 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:12.960 week some pills, uh did some some pergoset before I 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:19.200 did some uh some adderall um to study right right 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.800 right right do for black people, you know, just super focus, 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.400 super what I'm saying. Like and it's just like so 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.680 say you know you don't have a long day or 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.200 something like that. You know what I'm saying that, like 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.239 you might want to go catch your vibe somewhere. You 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:32.759 might want to do somewhere, you might want to be 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.799 involved in something. You know what I mean. I feel 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.360 like you have you go, you go half of a 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.239 thirty and know you know you smoke, you want sip 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.719 you a little popular little shot like it's at and 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:45.360 you're like, man, what's hanning what we're doing? Like like 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:55.919 you can see ship kinda yea, kinda come right, let's 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.719 just swell. I'm good that really I've never had that. 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:01.960 And I would just say about the drug thing, just 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:05.400 don't abuse it. The moment you abuse it abuses you, period. 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.279 That's what I believe in. Like you know what I'm saying, 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.680 don't do nothing, just don't abuse it, period it because 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:12.520 you would do you like a holistic nigger right now, 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.000 like you should be meditated and all that ship like 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:21.120 Buddhist type ship, real ship. That's hard. But I feel 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:22.640 like you've always been into that. I feel like you've 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.040 always been like a spiritual person. Like I feel like 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.360 there's nothing new, Like I feel like, you know what 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.600 I'm saying, you have to say when you were seventeen. 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:30.759 But I grew up in a church, you know what 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.319 I'm saying. My mom brought me up in the church, 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.880 so we were Christianity and all of that. I was 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.800 always I'm always a man of faith, you know what 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.879 I'm saying. Like, so I've always leaned on my faith 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.120 in any time things get uncertain for me. That has 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.880 always brought me clarity. So um, I trusted that and 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.280 from that in terms of from that Christianity that inspired 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.200 him to like my spirituality and you know that ties 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.280 and also with my wife and my lifestyle and stuff. 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.799 So and just like my fitness, my health ship too. 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.239 Just exploring all of that is what really took me there. 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.719 So there's never been a time where your faith wasn't there. 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.719 I'm talking about No, I'm not talking about life. It's 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.759 about the music business. Because a lot of people don't 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.239 understand how hard it is in this music business. This 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.400 is this is like, you know, this is hard, you 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.200 know what I'm saying. Ever, like like it was like, man, 0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:22.640 this is it for me? Yeah? Yeah, bro, Yeah, I 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.640 think like I felt like that after my second album, 0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.000 like Ship got real for me at that time. You 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:30.360 know what I'm saying. I felt like, man, like I 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.359 don't know because I was still new to the game 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.480 before all of that. You know what I'm saying. That 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.960 was I was really me just like I'm really trying 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.600 to figure it out and taking care of my family 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:42.279 living in the condo space, man, trying to pay my 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.719 bills and Ship and I you know, and at that point, 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.440 like call on the road and they're doing their thing, 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.200 and it's kind of like you gotta make it hit. 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.759 You gotta do something that, you know, impress me. You 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.239 know what I'm saying. It was that type of energy. 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:54.879 So I just didn't know whether or not I could. 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.279 I'm saying because I think you took I think you 0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:59.279 described the hustle hard. Now, I think this is where 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.080 we're going, right, So you're saying that at that time 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.279 that's fully inspired that record was because that was a 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:13.480 low point in your life into that yeah, anyone is 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.520 just that. H I feel like it wasn't just that 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.840 time neither to you know what I'm saying. Like, it 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.799 was also even I feel like the time of uh 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.759 separating two, you know what I'm saying, of trying to 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.440 think to myself of like, you know, what would it 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.160 look like being independent? You know, and if I could 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.640 really rise to the occasion of being an independent artist, 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.920 you know what I'm saying. So it was definitely times 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.400 that will pop in the moments that I would be like, damn, bro, 0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.520 like you know, because it's difficult, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.520 but yes, to go to to to jump back, like, yeah, 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.600 that was the hustle hard time. Let me just tell 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:53.280 you something. I looked at YouTube comments hw SO hard video. 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.480 They blamed at least three d artists. I'm still in 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:03.920 your flow, M Like I'm talking about it's even UK 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.040 dudes on there saying, man, everyone in the Americans like 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:16.920 Ace Foot, I'm like, Tip Westwood every round, let me 0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:21.480 rude about it from Thunder Shutout. Yeah, I'm sorry it 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.680 was terrible, but like I really looked at that and 0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.000 it brought me to a Tim Westwood interview with you, 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:32.360 and it just kept going, people saying how so hard 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.480 Like for lack of a better phrase right now, lack 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.759 of a better term, is like the Megos flow, like 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:43.640 how everyone sounds like the Megos and everyone. I didn't 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:48.279 realize that that's what everyone was saying about you with 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.440 hustle off. I didn't realize that. I'm sure you've noticed 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.080 that because I've seen the interviews like, yeah, they're all 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:59.800 but my ship. That's the that's the honest truth, brom, 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.120 and honest you know that. It's it's flattering to be honest. 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.600 You know what I'm saying. Uh, But I think I 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:08.560 was so in my zone at that time that I 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.879 didn't always fully realize. But people from the outside would 0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.400 always come up to me, Yo, bro, this bro, this 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.640 person sound like you. Why they doing that at jump 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.359 flowing that like that's your flow. But if we're being honest, bro, 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.200 first of all, nothing new around the sun, but nothing 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:23.880 new on this earth what I'm saying, So it's like 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:28.279 we all inspired by somebody you know. So, Uh, I 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:34.400 never took ownership of a float, but but did I 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:39.719 hear um? Did I inspire a generation? For sure? For sure? 0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.440 You know what I'm saying like with that flow and 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.480 then with that cadence on hustle hard. But I knew 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.200 I did because I knew before and this is this 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:50.000 is no lie. When I went before I even wrote 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.279 the record, bro, I told myself when I heard just 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.040 the instrumental, I said, if I can, if I can 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.799 create a flow that's different on here, it's gonna change 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.520 the game. I swear the guy and I in the studio, 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.120 and I had that. I went in the booth with 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.480 that intention to change the game, not meaning that the 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:09.080 game is gonna change. Copying you, you didn't know that far. 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.520 I knew that. I knew that the flow was new 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:14.960 to to what was out because I would always I 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.800 was always that type of artist. I always wanted to 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.799 recreate myself, which is why every time you would hear 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:20.719 a new ace Hood record, you would always be like 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.640 this again, back how that verse go, that's how that's that? 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.239 Uh same it's different verse, the same most ship, just 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.960 a different day. I hit trying to get it, and 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:35.840 my daughter had just got so all of this is real. Hustle, hustle, 0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:46.319 hustle outside August. Uh you got that. That's years ago. 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.080 When I'm saying you can't cars man. Come on, man, 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.000 oh man, that flow though we were pulling up, pull 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.320 it up as come on, surprised me blowing up already 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:59.800 to I ain't gonna last night before we did we 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.399 rocket pistol off from my pocket and get the shock. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.520 Its ain't got time to be shopping, like to say. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.239 You know what I'm saying, uh yeah, connected to the 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.399 reut tooth things. But you take that at the time 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.279 that we're gonna we're gonna pay it. We're gonna pay 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:20.680 you that jam to use this magic. God, Yeah, that's it, 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:53.640 really okay Cooke bro oh different day, feed h I 0:48:53.760 --> 0:49:04.839 got my mocket. Even at that hearing that rope over 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.200 up on my low Joe. He's whipping that lowco Who 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.000 the gover? That loco? How better fucking I know? So 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.799 I think it ain't no doubt about it running around 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:25.840 with that rocket y'all ol blue him who you know? 0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:30.560 Three meets. I got folks be jumping that time all 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:37.440 about it. That life. Don't stop the party and JA 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:49.520 like say you did. Day, Oh my god, I can 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:55.320 see anybody pitt your ship. Perspect that yo, that is 0:49:55.440 --> 0:50:00.440 that you know listening to it now? I listen to 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.360 it in the way it still sounds great. But it 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.160 still sounds great by the way that's me, but it 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.959 sounds it almost makes you seem like the normal guy. 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.360 Like it anymost makes you seem like you brillanted in 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:15.000 like if I didn't look at the comments and go 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.479 through the research and all that, like that's probably something 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.400 that would would try to erase you in history. And 0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:26.000 this is actually this is the first. Yes, this is crazy, 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.920 this is crazy. Yeah. Some somebody even argue that the 0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:33.120 whole like, I mean, you know, that's that's tedious. I 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.040 know you hustle bad, but let's take you into the shot. 0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:42.239 Let's get up feeling that I claiming another shot that 0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.000 the case be Blame it on the alcohol. Man, don't 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.560 worry about you gotta record about it. You got drunk 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.840 about don't work about drunk fat, I don't worry about it. No, no, 0:50:52.680 --> 0:51:02.680 oh COVID Mama, I don't suggest to go. Yeah it 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:10.920 is yeah, yeah, yeah, COVID. You know it comes from change. Okay, 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:15.600 hold on, shot, someone, come on, God damn, we're gonna 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:21.680 make you claim you'll flow today. I'll drop a show 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.560 like somebody felt pretty hard. I apologize you've got no assurance. 0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:33.160 But but yeah, so I know you said you flattered, 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.640 but ween, and you don't have to name the artist, 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:50.040 you know, I came up with yea, my blow, I've 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:59.080 seen the y'all was taking the y'all right, right, yaking, 0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:02.640 When was the first time you don't have to name 0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:04.040 the artist if you don't want to, if you if 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.680 you want to to take a shout to his name 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.160 too or whatever. But it was the first time he 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.840 was like, y'all, wow, like I'm making an impact like 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:15.120 off of that flow along, like you're hearing like somebody 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:19.759 that you like, and how quickly after you know what, 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.920 I'm a real nigger. So I think that it's only 0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.319 to keep it honest because it was only us, really 0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.320 us two at that time, like really the me and 0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.239 meek situation, that's what everybody what I'm saying, just to 0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:35.120 be honest, I just to address it and face that 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.680 like it was a lot of people were saying that 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.359 in comparison because of the flow that Meet went off 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.480 and use you know what I'm saying, like, so, so 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:44.920 that's what people was always trying to round it too. 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.080 But Meet, my man, I got nothing but loved meeting right, 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:50.840 and I was flattered in only that, like you know 0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.920 that that's that's I don't know. I just like the 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:57.560 idea of just contributing. You know what I'm saying this 0:52:57.719 --> 0:52:59.440 hip hop right, I haven't seen a lot of amazing 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:01.440 ship bro like you know, I mean, like to be 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:02.840 a part of it, to be in it, Bro, and 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:12.680 just to contribute something, Uh that ship matters. That's puteful, man. 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.080 I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, because that was 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.160 the one name that kept coming up in the comments 0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.920 like meet me, and I never addressed that in the past, 0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:22.320 you know what I mean. I think I tiptoed around that, 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:24.640 you know what I mean, for for whatever reasons, um, 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.719 But I guess because I had love for Bro and 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:28.360 I you know what I mean, I just didn't never 0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:31.759 want to take exactly like and still got so much 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:35.520 love for bro um and yeah, it's just I just 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.279 ain't never want nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.080 will ever come between us, and no ships like you 0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:40.959 know what I mean. I see how people play games 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.840 like that and try to would adoption and create issues 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:47.640 and said that he could have took it personal exactly exactly. 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.040 I'm gonna tell you what me always you know, that's 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.400 what I love about me. Me in the beginning, was 0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:54.400 always a fan of me, would always pick me up. 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:55.839 You know what I'm saying, like, and that's the thing 0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.319 that I always appreciate about bron Didn't you always show 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.800 a love. I'm gonna tell you a friend a problem 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.480 that's your self perform And I'm not a psychiatrist, but 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.319 my man for l sat in the same chair as 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:09.839 you right like a couple of weeks ago right now 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:13.600 last week said the same chair as you and y'all 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.719 stuff too much humbleness. M hmm. I believe that in 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.799 some cases it's too much humility, and it's like bust. 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.239 The Ryans told me this a long time ago, But 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:25.399 what the funk you so humble for him? Like, because 0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.960 that's why I am. And he's like, yeah, but it's 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.879 at times when it's not time to be humble, you're 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:33.960 still there. And I never knew what he talked about. 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.040 And I feel like that's I feel like, for for 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.600 real suffering from me, for I couldn't even answer quick 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:42.320 time or slides. But this is this is a segment 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:43.920 where well just give you two answers he just give 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.080 both both because he's trying to be too politically direct. 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.600 Sometimes you can't be to be too politically correct because 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.080 if you're being too politically right, you say that all 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.920 lives matter, and we know that all lives matter, but 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.040 for right now, black lives motherfucking matter. So this is 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:02.040 the reason why you know what I say, you can't. 0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:05.600 You know what I'm saying, You just can't be So, 0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:08.040 I mean, that's real, real ship to you know what 0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.120 I'm saying. I would like I would like you to 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.120 know that because like when I look like, they're like, 0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:19.080 you're the one of the most underrated, underappreciated, don't mcs 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.440 like that's what I'm looking at. It's my jaw, you 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:23.759 know what I'm saying. And there's people that love you, 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.799 like there's a lyricist people, and you gotta claim them back. Bro, 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.160 you gotta let the ball focus. Know. I'm out here, man, 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:36.120 you know what I'm saying. I'm out here. I'm alright, 0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.919 because it's not It's not like I went and watch 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.279 your interviews and I look and there's not one person 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:43.520 that can say ace Hood is not a doping See. 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.920 I searched for it. I looked for them, you know 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.520 what I mean. So you think that you was ever 0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:57.560 h a success from your own success, What I mean 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.920 is like you're almost battling yourself. You gotta single that 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:06.520 went platinum, right Like, there's nothing you can go back 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.920 in the major right now, there's nothing that the impact 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.000 that Bugatti had. And at the time that was like 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.200 like if we were talking about Tea paying earlier and 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:15.920 God blessed, because I don't want te paying to take 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.920 this in any way shape for my fashion. But future, 0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:23.160 when future got lit, he could have said, pick up 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.320 thinking that I was thinking that, I was thinking that, 0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:25.560 I was thinking I was thinking that, thinking I was 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:30.239 thinking us and that the ship. After a while he 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:33.920 was just and like but nobody could give him he 0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:39.600 was And when that ship no God, I mean, moly 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:47.000 moly mo Like what was that feeling like? Man? That 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:53.400 ship was like, uh, it was like surreal, bro. First 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:58.800 of all, she should did that ship in like fifteen minutes. 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:05.239 I want the studio toge. And you know, Kalid master motivator, 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:08.240 you know what I mean, Like he in there speech, 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.480 he gave a speech. He gave you. The speech is over. 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:13.520 Don't matter who you are. He gave you the speech 0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:15.600 like you're gonna you see to get in that bad 0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.520 And I love that because like that that made me 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:23.040 stick to always a standard of just you gotta be 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:28.400 if not rewriting. You know what I'm saying that I 0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.440 know what that moment you heard the beat, you had 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:32.360 your rhys already or no, no, no, I didn't have 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:36.000 my rhymes already. So I walk in. It's just before 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.480 I didn't Mike Will. Mike Will made it. So you 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.280 walk into the here and to beat for the first time. 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:43.920 I walk into here and to beat for the first time. 0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.560 I'm at the studio, pull up, yo, and I know 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:52.120 them calls Yo, I'm at the studio where you were 0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:56.120 like you know what I mean, just no movie. I 0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.320 beat that in a minute. Yeah you got super and 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:04.840 yeah I got Okay, I beat it. I didn't he 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.640 was I didn't know he was there. Cool. Yeah I 0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:12.920 met future before, so me and future so boom walk 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:17.240 in the studio Future when we chop it up? Manki 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.320 that we chop it up? So he and there he 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:22.560 don't even play the music yet. And then he gave 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.200 me the speech of all speeches, like, Yo, it's gonna 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.480 be the biggest record ever. This ship is gonna be 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.120 number one. This ship is gonna be They don't got 0:58:30.160 --> 0:58:33.880 no lyrics on it, no lyrics. I think that it 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.360 is powerful in terms of manifestation. That's why I like, 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:44.200 you feel meal that shouldn't get you goose bump. I 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:49.000 know it. Nothing's happy yet, I know it. You feel me. 0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:54.240 So in my mind, I'm just like, all right, play 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.800 the b A should come on. I'm just like, oh, 0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.600 this ship it is that. I already knew what I 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.080 was going Ill. Norm will come on there and I'm 0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:02.600 gonna deliver. He give me the tall Like, yo, this 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.560 gotta be. You gotta write that, you gotta talk that 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:06.640 and your future. I need that. I need nothing but 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:08.720 that legend there. I need that anthem. I need that big. 0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:10.680 I need that movie. I need that. I need that 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.600 number one. I need that. That's what we're gonna feel 0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:14.240 me A lot of people who know this is hip 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:18.360 hop dudes and baseball players. We do that. That's that's 0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.680 out of the part. Maybe that's to the audience. That's 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.680 that's to the audience, you know what I mean? Like 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:28.000 that go ahead, boom so after that like future that 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:32.080 he you know he played a beat, running back played again, 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:37.520 Boom played again. He said, all ready, Bro, walk in 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:40.280 the booth and he's just tampering with the ship. Bro. 0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:44.840 Eight seconds of that bitch, come on, come looking for 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:48.800 you with Hey. I couldn't look at hold on, hold 0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.120 on back and then he did it again. He was 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.520 like and then guy was like, Yo, stopped. It's like, Yo, 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.520 that's it, that's it, Yo. Keep that right there, don't 0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:01.960 stop like you know. So we moved forward. Boom okay cool. 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:03.800 So future in there he's doing the ship alright, I 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.200 got you. He did that ship, Bro, and it was 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:10.520 like perfect, it was perfect, Bro. He did it, man, 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:15.919 I know, and that ship Bro. And it was after 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:17.680 that it was just like say lest you don't need 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.800 to say nothing. And Bro just came out literally about 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:23.840 fifteen minutes, and I was like, yeah that yeah, that 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:28.440 ship that's gonna go. I'm gonna keep it real. I 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:39.520 went to scot Story see mm hmm. Man. I never 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:44.240 kne where the until your record. I don't just thought 1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:46.120 that was a cool. I thought it was an autie 1:00:46.480 --> 1:00:49.080 suped up Bro. We didn't think it all the way through. Bro, 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:53.000 I didn't think it. Bro. They kept telling me it's 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:58.440 just two million ILLI know about Bugatti. When the Bugatti 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:02.320 record hit, I went to everywhere I tried around the world. 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:05.640 Nobody knew, That's what I'm trying to say. Nobody knew 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.840 around you in the same building. And I didn't really 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:11.640 technically know that that was a two million dollar call. 1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:13.560 In my mind, I'm like, if I would have knew, 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:17.320 we would have reached out the Bugatti or something on 1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:22.080 some real ship. Bro. People trying to say, you resout 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.840 to Bugatti prior until you dropping the record, prior or 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:29.000 thinking about today, and it was like yeah or something, 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:32.800 because like so bro, people went out and bought more Bugatti's. 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:35.520 Once once people started to get familiar with the thing, 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:38.120 you go out and buy more of them, and people 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.240 start you started seeing them, right, oh, this person, that person, 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:42.720 Like everybody started, why do you think things just happened 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:45.320 became and like, you know what I'm saying, that's another 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:48.640 thing of like I'm just happy to be a part 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:50.960 of the conversation, man, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:52.800 so what did you think? Like, because like when he's 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:57.240 start with that, I lost my mind when he did 1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:01.080 that ship because he ain't expected because it was It 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.760 was totally left from what the song was. He come in, 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:10.720 I come looking and feel your way. You're what I'm saying, like, 1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:16.200 that's it crazy and you're going to the let's go 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:19.200 we have and the drink and I'm what drinking? I'm 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:32.400 drinking in the shop. But you all like god, you 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:39.040 cant telling you sorry? Out of nowhere? How run the 1:02:39.080 --> 1:03:01.840 boof Like I'm like, man, I'm gon want it. Let's 1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:06.680 be really curt a wrinkle. I won't call it a game. 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:34.640 Both creek say what you want? You don't like I 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:51.080 I'm looking with your way, I say injun, come no, guy, 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:57.840 come listen. I've never seen like I went to a 1:03:57.880 --> 1:04:02.240 club so belod one time. One time. It's just one 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:09.920 time that might tell your type of characters smell. I 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:14.080 was like you, he might tell you let you know 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:17.920 with the guy. But when I go to one of 1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:23.040 my own means the guy guys he asked me for 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:26.000 like on the bus, I said, no problem, they gave 1:04:26.040 --> 1:04:29.800 it to them day Z song. Come on, he'd be like, 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:35.040 what's fifty grand to a nigg like me? Keep was 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:40.360 he in this room? Kind of relax? What's you seeing like? 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:43.200 People like that with the bo guys like like coming 1:04:43.240 --> 1:04:47.440 up to you like, oh yeah really but some of 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.960 these guys really did have them. Yeah, some of them did. 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.040 Yeah they did, Like a lot of them obviously didn't. 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:56.480 But like, you know, man, I had ICs coming up 1:04:56.520 --> 1:04:59.280 to me. I have bot, I got boodle, dude, like 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:02.120 I put just something I got that, you know what 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:05.000 I'm saying. So or just people who just you know 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.200 what I mean, Like I love that record. It makes 1:05:07.240 --> 1:05:09.920 me feel so empowered, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:13.880 and in the idea, So and I love that recommend 1:05:14.000 --> 1:05:16.320 because like I felt like my homies, I felt like 1:05:16.360 --> 1:05:18.280 it though my homie is gonna be proud of that 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:21.800 ship too. I gonna looking for you. I'm like, that's 1:05:21.920 --> 1:05:24.000 because it's really like it, you know, it's really really 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:26.280 like that. So I don't know, I just I just 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:31.280 love that. Um forget what I was gonna say, and 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:34.680 that should just hit crazy in the club. Yeah crazy yeah, 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:38.240 but yeah, the idea behind the Bugatti waking up in 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:43.600 the Bugatti, you know what I'm saying, Like because I didn't, right, 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:46.120 but it's like, you know, it was just whatever was 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.360 that thing that you felt like you worked hard for 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:52.520 and to me, the Bugghatti represented that at that particular time. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:54.600 It's just that thing that I hope to have that hit, 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:56.440 you know. It's like that gift that you know what 1:05:56.440 --> 1:05:58.840 I'm saying. So that just that was like that that 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:00.800 staff in the ground for me, you know what I'm saying, 1:06:00.840 --> 1:06:02.760 And like it could be anything. That could be that 1:06:02.840 --> 1:06:04.400 new whip, with that new career, with that new job 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:06.480 that you got. Like, so that's how that was my 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:09.880 perspective and the idea behind waking up in the guy. 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:12.120 It's like if I wake up in that new house 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:13.919 that I love that I bought, Like, I'm gonna feel 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:19.640 that same way. Got legend Gary albums, but those two 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:24.200 legend after those never gonna die, Like would be a 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:34.400 barbecue in Grandmothers. I'm saying, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, I 1:06:34.400 --> 1:06:38.040 don't do those records going ever never ever, never, Brover. 1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:41.240 How does it feel to have like most people can't 1:06:41.280 --> 1:06:45.640 ever have one? What we're gonna ever have none? You know? 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:48.760 And then they're considered legends, but you're going the club, 1:06:48.880 --> 1:06:52.280 their music will never play, Like, how does it feel 1:06:52.320 --> 1:06:55.840 to have one? Ship? They feel good? Bro that ship 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:58.720 is it's a blessing man, it's a blessing, bro. Like, 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:00.840 I'm so grateful to be able to have a voice 1:07:00.840 --> 1:07:03.560 of platform to like to speak to people down. So 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:07.200 I just that ship is just beautiful. And we got 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:09.240 more and it ain't just those. You know, we got 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.560 top ten, top five records, you know what I mean. 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:15.600 We got Chris Brown, what I'm saying, like, you know, 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:17.720 we got we out chill with me and Wayne, you 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:20.640 know what I'm saying. Like, So it's, um, we just 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:22.400 got a lot of great records. And I'm just that's 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:28.480 why I'm trying to say, you're almost uh uh failure 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:31.919 to your own success because they which want other people 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:36.440 won't compare and those because those two are so impactful. 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:39.840 It's just like never, like where do you go from there? 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:43.400 I got superdut what what what? What? And I got Homeboy. 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:45.800 I can't I don't matter what I could do whatever. 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:48.280 I'm not gonna top though, Yeah, yeah, I don't give 1:07:48.280 --> 1:07:51.000 it for I can make a record right now fifty 1:07:51.080 --> 1:07:54.479 times better than that. This fucking twenty fans from twenty 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:57.760 years ago to say it ain't better than nothing, it 1:07:57.800 --> 1:07:59.760 ain't better than you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:04.600 what you gotta do with that, like no, yes and no. Okay. 1:08:05.000 --> 1:08:07.280 So the thing about that which is very interesting is 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:11.480 that I got records now as an independent artist that 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:15.760 people react to bigger and Bugatti on my sets, you 1:08:15.800 --> 1:08:17.679 know what I'm saying that we're talking about huge crowds, 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:20.599 you know. So I don't really believe in that notion, 1:08:20.720 --> 1:08:22.760 you know. I think I think because people like to 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:25.680 think just because it may not be on or they 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:27.519 may not hear it on the radio or anything like that, 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:30.080 that it might not be having steam or it might 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:32.559 not be doing this thing I've been in my section 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:35.519 in the world and in my world like creating real magic. 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:38.759 You know what I'm saying through the streams, I'm grazing 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:41.280 it through the through the streams, through the reactions, through 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:43.800 the bookings, you know what I'm saying through uh, just 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:46.800 the interest in terms of things that I'm involved in, 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:49.679 Like you know, it's because of these records that's that's 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:52.720 really moving to people and stuff like that. You know. 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:55.680 So for me, it's like, yeah, on one end of 1:08:55.720 --> 1:08:59.360 the spectrum, it's like people can want, people do want 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:02.080 like those old to people like because me, I've understood 1:09:02.160 --> 1:09:03.800 that I'm no longer who I used to be, and 1:09:03.840 --> 1:09:05.760 I'm fine with that and I've made peace with that. 1:09:06.200 --> 1:09:08.400 You know, I'm I'm becoming. I'm a man now, I'm 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:10.519 not just you know what I mean, Like, I'm I'm 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:12.759 much more man. I'm a I'm a father, my husband, 1:09:13.680 --> 1:09:16.280 what I'm saying. So, um, I understand that that's gonna 1:09:16.280 --> 1:09:20.160 be people that appreciate that that person you feel me like, 1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:22.680 and they're gonna be and that's cool. But also like 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:25.000 there's gonna also be people that appreciate that new being 1:09:25.040 --> 1:09:27.040 and that new person. So that's what's happening now. Like 1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:28.720 you got some people that might want to hear those 1:09:28.760 --> 1:09:31.439 records and think like oh, but then there's records that 1:09:31.479 --> 1:09:33.760 I could perform like a wee ball that I gout 1:09:33.920 --> 1:09:36.320 or something like that, like he's a pout, Like records 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:38.320 that I just put real ship on, you know, and 1:09:38.400 --> 1:09:40.920 I performing and the ships do well. Let me ask 1:09:40.960 --> 1:09:43.720 you who's the Who's an artist that wanted to work 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:46.960 with you? And yea high like you never you never 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:50.600 story like when it was Highlight you said, get you 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:56.200 know what somebody that he was like wow that I 1:09:56.320 --> 1:09:59.840 was surprised that I worked with or they wanted to 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:03.080 work with you. Maybe maybe he didn't work with them 1:10:03.640 --> 1:10:11.240 highlight Wow almost m made. Oh this is just the arm. 1:10:15.600 --> 1:10:22.799 That's a good question. I mean for me, from being honest, 1:10:24.320 --> 1:10:29.080 working with Wayne was crazy. Wasn't the one who said it? 1:10:31.400 --> 1:10:33.320 What might feel from telling me Jo, tell me what 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:34.760 kind of weed this is? Because this she gotta me 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:37.760 highs Hell, I don't know what it is. Gas truck 1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:40.920 blowing it up. We might go backy in the bathroom. 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:43.599 But Wayne, let's go to the bro. Wayne Bro, Wayne 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:48.040 just the elliest nigger man. You just grew up, you know, 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:51.479 inspired by Wayne Bro. You know, motivated a couple of 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:54.840 records with the missed out like one. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:56.400 we gotta we out to join it. We got to 1:10:56.439 --> 1:10:59.000 hustle hard joining we gotta. I think we need like 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:02.800 another record too, yeah yeah. But working with him, man, 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:05.000 it was just like to me that had been like 1:11:05.040 --> 1:11:07.479 the biggest dream come true. Obviously growing up on him 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:09.839 and you know what we're from, Carter one was everything. 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:11.840 You know what I'm saying. Carter one was like the 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:15.160 narrative to my whole high school, my whole young young 1:11:15.240 --> 1:11:19.200 teenage days. You did so um to being are working 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:23.519 with him, man, just just skating. He's skating and righting 1:11:23.560 --> 1:11:27.120 in his mind, you feel me? And uh right, he 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:33.120 did that same right m hit factory. So we hit 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:37.200 factory and he you know, he's skating back and forth 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:39.320 and we just you know, had a little small conversation, 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:41.080 told the idea of the record and what we wanted 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:43.200 to do, but just watching him create. Man, I just 1:11:43.360 --> 1:11:45.360 was excited to be in his presence at that moment, 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:49.280 at that time. What I'm saying, like, um, and to 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:51.760 see like that I did that on my own, you 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:53.400 know what I'm saying. Like I was in the do load, 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:56.000 like chilling all day with him, just watching but doing 1:11:56.040 --> 1:11:59.000 ship waiting on the record, alright cool when he didn't 1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:00.680 finished it the night, so I'm I'm not gonna have 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:03.080 to marrow cool. So you know I pulled back up 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:06.080 the next day and I'm right there again. You feel 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:08.080 what I'm saying, Like he really didn't and he was 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.840 like on some like some big broth ship forever. So 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:15.680 let's do. Let's make some look at that. That's an 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:21.840 artist who's fucking with you in your highlights. Got even 1:12:21.960 --> 1:12:28.760 Cash heard you say this in an interview the brother talk. 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:32.519 I'm saying your brother industry ship. Now you on your own, 1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:36.080 not the favorite, not for we the best, not the favorite, 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:41.919 not for cash money, right solely ace. Come on, come on, somebody, 1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:43.720 how do you think that made me feel? Bro? When 1:12:43.720 --> 1:12:46.000 you think about that, because on some real ship, bro, 1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:49.439 before we get okay, who's keep it real? Like this shot? 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:59.320 Take the shot? Shot? Want to keep? Yeah? Who's an artist? 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:03.960 We call and you were like, man, what's up? Bro? Man? 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:06.560 I need to add to the nurse And they're like, 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:10.439 I'm in on Australia for two months, Like skip over there? 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:21.080 Who's that? You? Was like, you're disappointed? Maybe, yeah, I'm 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:23.599 just you know what, let me say, ma, I move 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:25.920 so different or you know what I'm saying like that's 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:27.920 the only thing about that, But that's what I'm saying, 1:13:28.240 --> 1:13:31.040 moving different, because it's one thing when you would cash money, 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:34.559 you would, you would, you would, and then when you're 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:37.120 on your own, it's really like, maybe what you mean 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:41.719 someone treated differently? Someone somebody treat me? Yeah, yeah, somebody 1:13:41.800 --> 1:13:47.719 treated you. Somebody would treated me. Disappointed you Uh yeah, bro, Yeah, 1:13:48.360 --> 1:13:51.560 not to the level of disappointed, because I felt like 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:54.960 it was expected, but for sure I think it's the 1:13:55.160 --> 1:13:57.760 relationships with people that I had. They weren't the same, 1:13:58.040 --> 1:13:59.640 you know what I'm saying. Like a lot of the 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:02.880 relations and ships were recommendations to me, you know what 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:04.479 I mean. So I had to get rid of lawyers 1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:06.840 and all type of ship because it was recommended. It 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:08.439 was in house type ship, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:11.040 So it was like, you know, I had an identity, 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:12.439 So it's like I had to create a whole another 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:14.920 identity outside of that. That's what that was. The different 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:17.080 thing about me is that coming outside of we the 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:18.920 best was like, Okay, y'all know me for that, But 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:21.559 I'm a new I'm a new being outside of this thing. 1:14:21.600 --> 1:14:25.240 I got to create a new met Because I want 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:30.160 you to keep it right, Who's art is that you 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:35.519 worked with? When when you that you wanted to work 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:39.800 with now and you can't get a hold of if 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:45.280 somebody got there, Chris Chris yaw are you gonna ask him? 1:14:45.280 --> 1:14:47.400 And but this was not like it's not the most 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:49.880 but but it ain't the most like recent thing, but 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:52.920 it was like a record, you know, right, It was 1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:55.599 a record that actually a smash record. And I still 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:57.720 haven't I hadn't released it, but it was like, uh, 1:14:57.760 --> 1:14:59.200 I thought about three or four years ago I was 1:14:59.240 --> 1:15:01.679 trying to put out but I just for some reason 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:04.559 couldn't get in contact with him. But through the grape vine, 1:15:04.680 --> 1:15:08.760 I just heard that there might be uh a little 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:13.040 bit of discomfort from that end situation that I wasn't 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:16.960 fully aware of. Spicking side not so much of that 1:15:17.200 --> 1:15:19.200 is it was an incident that happened years ago of 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:21.160 him wanted me to be a part of a record 1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.040 of just by hearsay that he wanted me to be 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:27.120 a part of a record and thought that like I 1:15:27.240 --> 1:15:28.880 didn't you know, and I never came through to do 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:31.560 the record. I wasn't interested in doing the record. That 1:15:31.760 --> 1:15:35.200 that's never true. That's why around everything, I think you 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:36.640 like he was on a toy or something like that, 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:40.640 Like I just could for some reason energetically, it just 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:42.240 felt like I couldn't reach him in some way, you 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:43.680 know what I mean. I'm like hitting him on the 1:15:43.800 --> 1:15:45.640 d M type ship like no response type, you know 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:49.839 what I mean, like that type of field. So uh rightfully, 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:51.240 so I could have went deeper, you know what I mean? 1:15:51.280 --> 1:15:52.680 And holiday, you know, I feel like a highlight the 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:54.800 people around him and all and they you know what 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:57.080 I mean, like, you know, people give you the little 1:15:57.160 --> 1:15:59.200 run around type. Yeah, hit him through the you know, 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.160 and make sure, you know, tap into the type ship. 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:04.800 So it was like one of those as opposed to 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:08.320 just you as man's you can just tell him you 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:11.000 feel me. So it was the little little things like 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:15.519 that that I started noticing or whatever. Um, but that's 1:16:15.560 --> 1:16:17.559 probably like the most recent you know, the only thing 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:19.439 that's happened, not the most recently. The only thing is 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:24.640 to meet a lot of artists from me and I 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:26.960 work with a lot of people too, So coming coming 1:16:27.000 --> 1:16:28.920 out of it, I wouldn't really try. I wouldn't really 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:37.680 a shot. Like, look, I don't know, people, come on, man, 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:41.280 please running on me. I just episodes. I probably said 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:42.960 it already, so like you know what I mean, Like 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:45.080 I mean, I just want you to tell your story. Man, 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:47.320 I really do I feel you. I feel you. But 1:16:47.840 --> 1:16:51.599 it wasn't all right, okay, okay, alrite I write boom boom. 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:53.960 If we're keeping it G and we're keeping honest, you know, 1:16:54.000 --> 1:17:02.680 I mean, I know he said that. So if we 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:05.160 if we're being honest, bro, if we're keeping the G, 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:11.400 you know that was you know, bro, like that was 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:13.640 like weird energy coming from the other side, you know, 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:16.880 like that was real people trying to stop me from 1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:20.599 prosper prospering on the side of like my old label 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:23.240 on some g ship. I ain't gonna say names or whatever, 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:25.920 but me trying to like you know, I'm paying for 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.400 radio and me trying to put my record through on radio, 1:17:28.479 --> 1:17:30.880 getting his service thro radio, Like then he's trying to 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:34.519 undercut me beginning like yeah, I felt like not even 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:36.960 felt that's that's what we're happening that ship, that's what 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:40.040 we're popping. You were trying to like finish me for real. 1:17:40.200 --> 1:17:42.160 That's how I felt. That's how I took it personally, 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:44.240 And that was that was my energy, you know what 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:45.960 I'm saying, Like I was on that type of ship 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:47.760 of just like because that's what it is. That's what 1:17:47.880 --> 1:17:51.679 niggas do, like you know, and um, it's like anything. 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:53.400 And it's like when you're trying to create some ship 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:55.160 for yourself, like why I gotta be a problem, you 1:17:55.200 --> 1:17:56.920 know what I'm saying, Like and and for me, I 1:17:56.960 --> 1:17:58.880 got I had an issue with that, bro, Like I 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.479 don't don't stop me if you gonna stop me from 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:04.360 trying to feed my family. I gotta issue. That means 1:18:04.400 --> 1:18:06.479 you can't really exist the way you want to exist. 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:09.200 If I can't, if I can't feed my family, that's 1:18:09.240 --> 1:18:11.719 gonna be a problem for people, you know what I'm saying. 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:15.360 So for me, once it start, once that started happening, 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:17.439 like I got into that mode, and that's when she 1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:19.840 started moving and people started kind of the fall back, 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:22.160 and you know, ship started to move a little bit 1:18:22.240 --> 1:18:27.360 faster with some shirts, certain ships. So but I I 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:29.960 want with that ship, bro, I went with that. You 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:32.799 feel me. I'm gonna tell you one time about artists, 1:18:32.840 --> 1:18:37.320 particularly man Solo hit me just now. He hits you 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:43.960 right now, the artist like get that. But once one 1:18:44.040 --> 1:18:51.599 time you know I'm cold, hm, but you know I'm 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:54.559 in all right, So I want to do a record 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:57.960 with Big Sean. This when you're living in Kendall already 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:06.080 I'm already left kindle Okay, by the way, Eddie lives 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:08.960 with me, him and Script TV. They go walk my 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:20.080 draws and but let me just I'm good good. But 1:19:21.640 --> 1:19:25.040 and maybe I maybe I went through the wrong people 1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:27.360 to go to Big Sean, because because when I've seen 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:30.160 him later on in life. He acted like he really 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:36.160 didn't understand. But I'm I'm cold and ship, but I'm 1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:40.880 still norry. I feel like, yo, who I am? So 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:45.080 I can't reach him direct. I see him in a 1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:49.320 Shawan Chris Concers Shawan Chris concert. Forget who else has 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:53.320 Big Sean is on there? I think while is on there? 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:56.080 So I said new Jersey, New Jersey for me, that's 1:19:56.880 --> 1:20:00.280 Robard County for Miami. They go, oh, it's all day 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:04.120 at it got it next joint. Oh, So I pulled up. 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:08.679 I see him myself. I give Big Sean the CD, 1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:11.680 but I get it. You're coming off stage. You know, 1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:15.280 whoop the whoop. But what happened was I hit a 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:17.960 guy named Mike Brinkley. I remember it because I remember 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:20.519 everybody in front of me. I'll give you that. Mike 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:22.280 Bringer he works in rock Nation right now. He knows 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:28.719 he cannot destroy this story. I'm following over Mike Bribbley. 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:30.760 I followed uver Myke Briley used to cut here. He's 1:20:30.840 --> 1:20:32.840 just a barber. He still he used to beat nas 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:34.519 barbera and then I think at one point he is 1:20:34.560 --> 1:20:36.720 my brober. So I'm like, damn, you go from the 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:40.320 barber to Big Shaws managing, you're not even answering my 1:20:40.479 --> 1:20:45.720 call like this is real. So bottom line, I never 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:49.040 got the record through with Big Sean. I never got 1:20:49.120 --> 1:20:51.559 a response. I never got an answer back, never got 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:56.479 nothing right to me. That's this respect. Yeah, it's it's 1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:59.840 big time. That's justpect right. You a little shop this 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:06.400 so this shop and disrespect and come on, bro, like 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.800 like I done. I don't got no problem with Big Sean. 1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:12.920 But I'm gonna tell you what happened one day like 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:24.360 tho's exactly that we outside as we usually be. Shawn 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:28.800 sees us in town, walks up to me since y'all 1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:39.080 I'm a big fan, says, no, you're not. I'm a lying. 1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:44.360 Even my wife with them me like what are you doing? 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:48.800 Like I was like, no, you're not. Like this is 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:51.599 now drift chances work. This is a different thing. Let's 1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:53.120 said he wanted to get a drink chance or nothing. 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:56.639 But Bro, I came to you. I brough to your people's. 1:21:56.680 --> 1:21:59.040 Now I'm gonna blame his people's more than I'm gonna 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:03.320 blame that because I can tell from his reaction he 1:22:03.680 --> 1:22:06.240 was not prepared. He did not know about all these 1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:12.479 calls I'm an artist too, but he remembered that c handle. 1:22:14.320 --> 1:22:17.320 There's no way you don't remember me handing you that scene. 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:24.400 That's the reason why I didn't connect with the five connected. 1:22:24.479 --> 1:22:29.040 You never connected. Oh I'm sorry, I don't know if 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:33.120 this is a private instant, that's a real ship blowing up. 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:36.320 I apologize that I'm a fan of that, like I 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:37.800 don't want to do a song too. That's I'm a 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:40.320 fan of you, so obviously I'm a fan of I'm 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:42.120 nothing's gonna take away from me being a fan of 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:46.880 you as an artist. But I thought has his reaction. 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:51.080 I wasn't a fan of him as a person. You understand, 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:58.080 it's a shot. Let's take a shot. But that looses 1:22:58.120 --> 1:23:09.080 you up because God bless, God bless and I want 1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:11.240 to you know, here's a disclaimer. He's a disclaim right 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:19.519 that comes with that exact right. Bad. Maybe that incident 1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:21.559 not him, because you know he's great. He doesn't give 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:25.000 a was I kid one way or another? And I 1:23:25.320 --> 1:23:27.599 you know it's doesn't really I'm sure he does care 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:29.040 to be honest with you. I don't think so. I 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:31.120 don't think so. I don't mean I would hope for 1:23:31.200 --> 1:23:32.960 who he is now who he is, you know, God 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:35.960 bless him. Man, You know, I really am because sometimes 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:37.840 the team does get in the way. I feel like 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:40.560 he was the team because of Christ and I should have. 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:43.360 I should have, I should have you know, but you 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:45.840 didn't hand him the CD. No, I did have him 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.599 to see at this, at this wisdems crazy, let's big 1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:50.760 up the limit. He called him and reached out in right, 1:23:51.000 --> 1:23:54.240 you know, his team. But that's how I do. I 1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:57.000 like what I'm saying, like you his direct team. That's 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:59.360 the reason why, this is the reason why he knew 1:23:59.400 --> 1:24:03.160 I want when I said, because I don't don't remember 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:05.840 what's gonna happen tomorrow, like I'm you know, when I 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.599 said Mike Brinkley, and he looked, he put his head 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:14.760 down like whoa. It's either he remembered that time that 1:24:14.920 --> 1:24:17.760 he was dealing with Mike Brinkley or he remembered that 1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:20.160 might Brinkley reached out. So it's either I don't I can't. 1:24:21.120 --> 1:24:24.680 But bottom line, well, as I got fronted on and 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:34.080 I couldn't wait wait wait that incident stopped you from 1:24:34.160 --> 1:24:37.880 front on the next person. Na. I'll judge every character, 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:40.280 but I don't think let me just be clear, because 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:42.280 we made this about him, but I don't think he's 1:24:42.280 --> 1:24:44.439 a bad person. I think it was a bad decision 1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:46.920 made about both of us and it and it had 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:48.840 to be. But would that make me front of somebody else? 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:50.800 I don't. I don't let me clarify this question, sir. 1:24:51.640 --> 1:24:53.400 I'm wondering, like, have you ever felt that you might 1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:59.360 have done that to somebody else? Yeah? Yeah, so you 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:03.479 were mixed by mistake though it's been clearly But me personally, 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:05.800 my son, a person names him, I would be like, yo, 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:08.559 did my bad, especially if I'm a fan of the person, 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:11.160 because that's what he came up to me and said that. 1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:13.599 He would have said, Yo, what's something I'm doing? Good 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:15.479 to meet you? I would have gave my five and 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:16.880 I said, I don't think it's good to meet me 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:20.000 before you know what I'm like, and I would have 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:21.720 remembered you know what I mean. But he didn't say that. 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.040 He said, Yo, it's up, bro, I'm a big fan, 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:27.400 and I was like, no, you are not, which I 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:31.880 can't expect that too loud. I just say there. I 1:25:31.960 --> 1:25:33.479 said it enough for my knicks to be like, what 1:25:33.640 --> 1:25:35.920 the fund is he doing? But they just say, it's like, 1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:37.960 man that forever side, I'm want to do what we 1:25:38.000 --> 1:25:41.479 couldn't do, And his security looked like what like it was. 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:44.880 It was weird because it's twenty six of us clearly 1:25:45.200 --> 1:25:48.240 it's twenties. The securities him and two securities. No, no, no, no, 1:25:48.439 --> 1:25:50.559 I just expect. I'm just I'm not. And it wasn't 1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:52.120 no beef sh it at all. It wasn't no beef. 1:25:52.200 --> 1:25:54.360 It was just like, yo, bro, So I'm just saying, 1:25:55.000 --> 1:25:57.920 you had to go through something after at a little 1:25:57.960 --> 1:26:00.600 bit of we bat like you wanted to make a 1:26:00.720 --> 1:26:05.040 new not when no artists, bro, not with no artists, 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:08.760 because I had to recreate myself. I needed people to 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:11.320 see me in in a in a different like on 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:13.720 my own, you know what I mean, and get used 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:15.720 to what that looked like. You know what I'm saying, like, 1:26:16.439 --> 1:26:18.200 and I think that's so it's just me. It was 1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:22.320 just thin I'm saying. I'm like I did like like 1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:26.000 but it was like I don't. I don't had the 1:26:26.040 --> 1:26:28.680 opportunity in the platform to do so many features and 1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:30.960 I'm so grateful that, like, because the talk back then 1:26:31.080 --> 1:26:32.720 was just like, oh, you can't do you can't make 1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:39.639 it head without the feature. That's the stigmas that looked 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:41.840 over that orse they trying to but I don't pay 1:26:41.920 --> 1:26:43.160 you know, I know I do me and I know 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:44.960 him to get down when it's trying to get down whatever. 1:26:45.439 --> 1:26:49.320 So so for me, like that's what it was. I'm 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:51.599 just like, man, I need to like people to see 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:53.280 me in a different light because I'm a different being 1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:55.519 with a different person and more elevated and more leveled up. 1:26:55.560 --> 1:26:57.800 So I'm like, people need to understand who this person 1:26:58.000 --> 1:27:00.320 is now. That way they can learn and learn to 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:02.280 understand the individual, and then we're gonna pay it back 1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:05.000 the features, like we're doing present moment. You see what 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:11.360 I'm saying. Feel like your early career was built off 1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.479 of you with somebody else because you got cold creating 1:27:14.479 --> 1:27:17.800 these records and creating these moments. I said, no, no, 1:27:17.840 --> 1:27:19.600 I know, but I just want to go back to it. 1:27:19.680 --> 1:27:21.960 And just like, because this is a big gym for artists, 1:27:22.760 --> 1:27:26.280 like for you to recreate yourself on your own without 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:29.519 any features, Like how difficult did you feel that was? 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:33.880 I feel like that's humbling because you're ego would tell 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:36.280 you the feature didn't matter. That's what that's what I'm 1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:38.080 actually in a different way that he said no artist 1:27:38.120 --> 1:27:39.639 front and that's what I was saying. I gonna say 1:27:39.640 --> 1:27:42.559 it like yeah, just because after that point, I didn't 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.280 reach out to no big artist. I just reached out 1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:47.840 to the people that had relationships with or that you 1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:49.400 know what I'm saying, Like that was only is so 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:51.439 I kind of stayed in a certain lane. I didn't 1:27:51.439 --> 1:27:53.360 really try to go above that type of thing, you know. 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:55.200 So it's like and I went into that, I went 1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:57.360 into it with expectation. If I did go I would 1:27:57.479 --> 1:27:59.519 know in my mind, alright, what they may charge me 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:01.400 or what they so, you know, because I had to 1:28:01.400 --> 1:28:04.120 put on the business pad again, I'm rebuilt it at 1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:07.040 this point. I'm learning business, you know, I'm learning finances. 1:28:07.120 --> 1:28:09.560 I'm learning, you know, just about myself, who in my 1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:12.960 outside of music, who outside of ace hood, Like I'm 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:15.240 learning my I'm learning how to be a man for 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:17.479 real all of Again. I feel like I was coming 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:19.120 from a world that allowed me to be a child, 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:21.960 that allowed me to you know, not take responsibility of 1:28:22.040 --> 1:28:24.880 some of my choices and decisions and just like allow 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:26.960 it to fall through the crack, you know what I mean. 1:28:27.200 --> 1:28:28.960 Like allowed me to or a little bit with I 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:30.559 r S. I allowed me, you know what I'm saying, 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:32.519 just that little ship right there. And it's like I 1:28:32.600 --> 1:28:35.679 had to big switch all that over and find healthy pieces, 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.760 healthy pieces around me that's gonna help me flourish. And 1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:41.520 it's like now that I've built that, that that infrastructure 1:28:41.600 --> 1:28:44.000 is like, that's what's helped me sustain, you know, during 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:46.439 my independent journey. So and that's was a part of 1:28:46.479 --> 1:28:50.040 my recreation. It was everything outside of the music, my accounting, 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:52.360 you know what I'm saying, finding a new pr you 1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:54.040 know what I'm saying, which you're still music, but finding 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:55.960 a good manager, you know what I'm saying, Finding a 1:28:56.040 --> 1:28:58.000 good business manager. You know what I'm saying, Like you 1:28:58.080 --> 1:28:59.920 gotta handle your business. I had to put on that hat, 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:03.519 which was scary as fun because it's like Nigga, I 1:29:03.600 --> 1:29:05.880 came from where I had a bunch of people around 1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:07.920 doing everything. Ain't have to do nothing. My homie, he 1:29:07.960 --> 1:29:10.080 gonna handle that, he gonna do that. I got a problem, 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:12.280 my dog that I knew what it called, Like I 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:15.240 gotta do it leaves me and my hands are free, 1:29:16.120 --> 1:29:19.800 like now with changes to where on my table like, 1:29:20.840 --> 1:29:22.639 so I ain't reach out to know other artists cause 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.719 I'm like, I ain't gonna pay you niggas that first 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:28.280 of all, because I'm independent and ship different, you know 1:29:28.320 --> 1:29:30.760 what I'm saying. So, but I ain't had no body 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:32.639 to the front of me like that. I'm gonna smoke 1:29:32.720 --> 1:29:38.360 that ship, drink, hold on, hold on, you gotta stay 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:43.160 here for this one happen to have. So I'm sorry, 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:46.799 this is this is you know, this is yours? Because 1:29:47.800 --> 1:29:51.080 so what is your? What do you like? Oh? Jeeus? 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:57.160 You want our opinions first before you asser this? Yes, 1:29:57.240 --> 1:30:02.879 I do. I just say that being independent, you control 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:07.720 you own. There's a better legacy there, I feel. And 1:30:07.800 --> 1:30:19.000 then major no explanations really like would you like more 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:27.439 independence or it's never true independence. I prefer a team 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:33.679 you know, um connection with destro He did what I'm saying. 1:30:34.200 --> 1:30:37.880 But in terms of everything, I like independence. Why because 1:30:37.920 --> 1:30:41.360 I like ownership. I like owning my master's I like 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:44.120 owning my ship. I like owning my publishing. I like 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:47.160 owning all my rights and ship. I like getting the largest, 1:30:47.360 --> 1:30:52.240 the larger percentage of my business splits for my royal. Yeah, 1:30:52.439 --> 1:30:55.240 my family were from the crack one you feel me, 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:59.479 But I mean, God is good man. But I prefer 1:30:59.560 --> 1:31:01.840 independent because right like, I'm the happiest I've ever been 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:05.000 whirled because I'm free. Nobody owned me, nobody, nothing I got, 1:31:05.080 --> 1:31:06.599 I got my mom scra got to do. I don't 1:31:06.600 --> 1:31:08.920 want for them good and I can you know what 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:11.559 I mean, I constructure my ship to fit the major's 1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:13.200 a little bit. You could be on a major and 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:16.200 they don't own you, bro like, I mean, that's very rare. 1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:18.200 That depends on how you come into the major that 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:22.240 you have to come in, don't you know what. I 1:31:22.360 --> 1:31:24.240 came into a low level and we had what was 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:26.439 called the Grandfather deal at the end, and that was 1:31:26.479 --> 1:31:29.320 beautiful for me, but they could not do certain things 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:31.840 to me. Grandfather deal is so I just, I just 1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:35.439 I just want to explain. But that ever matters too, 1:31:35.560 --> 1:31:38.600 that's a different era. I don't Okay, Okay, maybe you 1:31:38.680 --> 1:31:40.439 have a point there. Let me not argue with that there. 1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:43.479 And but let me just tell you something. There is 1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:46.200 a way to be on the major's and still there's 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:49.400 nothing wrong with being on Have all your integrity have 1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:51.920 I have? I have? I'm not saying it takes away 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:55.640 integrity I mean it does. I'm just saying, if you 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:59.880 like to be independent, like you said, oh everything, make 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:02.680 your own decisions, steer your own ship. But when you're 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:05.080 on a major, you got execs you gotta talk to, 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:07.559 you gotta. They're gonna handle how you market yourself, how 1:32:07.600 --> 1:32:09.680 you promoted, when it comes out, how it comes out, 1:32:10.080 --> 1:32:11.880 and then you're gonna own them like a bank, like 1:32:11.920 --> 1:32:15.080 you gotta owe them money. That's all alone. And that's 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.080 the difference of the area because in that era there 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.360 was so much money in the industry, but they would 1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:22.120 wash those loans. All right, Cool, don't worry, you don't 1:32:22.320 --> 1:32:25.960 expect anymore, and we'll bring you into time though. All right, 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:32.560 all right, COOLi cool, you gotta relax them. But no, no, 1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:35.519 sty were here, stay right here, stay right here, stay 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:42.479 right No, no, this is a difference, right alright. After 1:32:42.560 --> 1:32:45.800 you learned the business, you've satisfied with the record label, 1:32:46.160 --> 1:32:49.800 you do it. It's like it's like, here's the part 1:32:49.840 --> 1:32:53.639 where I wish you would have said either leaving Depth 1:32:53.760 --> 1:33:01.640 Cam or leaving Universe. When your contract is void. You 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:04.160 could have said, I want to stay with Universal, right, 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:08.479 or I want to stay with Death Jam. There as 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:12.280 long as death. Jam is with that that wouldn't have happened, 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:15.160 though it was why I wouldn't have happened. I would 1:33:15.200 --> 1:33:18.000 like to I would imagine everything you're saying about the 1:33:18.040 --> 1:33:22.040 black balling, It wouldn't have happened. That's what I'm imagining, right, 1:33:22.400 --> 1:33:25.080 because to me, it's like, but it can I've done that, 1:33:25.560 --> 1:33:30.559 can't hand had So you're saying specifically right right right 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:34.719 the people two many people in the building. Yes, yes, exactly, 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:39.720 yeah and just but but I'm telling you that it 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:43.280 did happen because I did that with my situation. You 1:33:43.360 --> 1:33:45.560 understand saying I did that in my situation where it 1:33:45.720 --> 1:33:47.880 was like a cool, you're unique, bro, you were signed 1:33:47.920 --> 1:33:50.640 the Rocketfeller without being signed the Rocketfeller. Come on it, 1:33:54.720 --> 1:33:58.479 so you're not the only guy that was on a 1:33:58.640 --> 1:34:02.880 major that that was. I think it's not that you're 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:05.640 not you You really you're taking what I'm saying and 1:34:05.680 --> 1:34:10.160 going in a different day. Have the independent approach to Look, 1:34:10.280 --> 1:34:12.519 I mean it's look, man, I think that I'm not 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:15.960 opposed you feel me to to rocking with a major label. 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:18.680 I think it all depends on like it's just what 1:34:18.920 --> 1:34:21.080 we can agree to. You know what I mean, like, 1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:23.120 what you're willing to get, what you're willing to be 1:34:23.200 --> 1:34:25.400 flexible with. It's all about a deal. To me, it's 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:28.320 all with the within the guidelines of the contract. It 1:34:28.400 --> 1:34:30.599 could be major, it could be anything like if if 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.320 it's the right team, it's the right situation, like I 1:34:33.400 --> 1:34:35.120 feel like, yeah, I'm gonna go with it. But it's 1:34:35.240 --> 1:34:37.280 you know, it's a lot determining. That's that type of thing. 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.360 When I'm when I'm really getting your perfect right now, 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:43.080 everybody is like a little Wayne just sold as masters 1:34:43.160 --> 1:34:46.120 for a hundred man. It's publishing, wasn't it. It's the 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:51.360 Masters of his It's not even him. He's selling like 1:34:51.479 --> 1:34:55.040 I think his Nicki Mina. It's not even him. And 1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:57.880 you know, these are the focused people in the world 1:34:57.960 --> 1:35:01.479 said disguise signing for I mean, nobody should go in 1:35:01.479 --> 1:35:02.880 the ship they don't really know about you know what. 1:35:03.000 --> 1:35:05.280 It's like. It's like it's like I would never do that. 1:35:05.520 --> 1:35:08.080 I would not because if I'm in that situation, but 1:35:08.200 --> 1:35:11.080 you've never been in that situation, you can't really say that. 1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:12.760 You know what I'm saying that absolutely it's like for 1:35:12.960 --> 1:35:20.080 us to zoom the funk out. That's it. I'm gonna 1:35:20.080 --> 1:35:32.840 take independent on bomb back room break like that. It's 1:35:32.920 --> 1:35:43.719 just in case. You gotta be nice. Yeah, we gotta. 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:51.360 You have got your got your kid, I got your Yeah, 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.479 I expect that. Baby. It's just a feeling. This feeling 1:35:55.560 --> 1:36:00.400 this cut knock cut. It was some babbaco, this fool. 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:04.320 This is this is how forget this is you want 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:06.880 mama waa you want Mama wants you want a little 1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:11.200 game that you want. He wants the Jeffrey how you 1:36:11.240 --> 1:36:13.600 want to Jeffery? No, no, no, let's not just the 1:36:13.640 --> 1:36:17.000 poses state. They're tost tiger ball. But it's for the 1:36:17.000 --> 1:36:21.000 bid to give Republic and Pitbulls Pitbull Company to step 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:24.040 in tager balls. If get me, you do get you, 1:36:24.960 --> 1:36:28.519 You got your cup for you. Keep keep feeling, keep up. 1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:33.160 This is mama wanna mama wana, Mama wana holda wanna 1:36:33.800 --> 1:36:42.559 hold on that. Yeah, that's need was sweet to Bama, 1:36:42.680 --> 1:36:49.679 was sweet to take takes it. So what does it need? Ye? 1:36:53.720 --> 1:37:05.559 All one? I was expected spect you're good, damn you're good. 1:37:05.680 --> 1:37:25.040 Good get my fee? Yeah, this is days yes s S. 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:33.200 I like I know you my whole life telling you 1:37:34.280 --> 1:37:48.439 like yeah there you want to ask you is that 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:51.320 for this form for you, because um, I watched a 1:37:51.360 --> 1:37:53.559 couple of interviews where you like, man, it's the most 1:37:53.600 --> 1:37:57.479 comfortable when you're Bet said, y'all we change, or with 1:37:57.720 --> 1:37:59.800 Julie if I have to be, if I have to, 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:03.519 But what do you feel like that was like your 1:38:03.560 --> 1:38:05.439 image as a wrapper at one point, like just you 1:38:05.560 --> 1:38:09.280 have to like always have actual god they or actually 1:38:09.600 --> 1:38:13.000 have these certain things and look. So it was was that, 1:38:13.760 --> 1:38:17.320 Oh yeah, for sure, I felt like I felt like 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:20.760 it was times bro, where I put like my my 1:38:20.880 --> 1:38:23.080 identity of who I who I was was in the 1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:26.080 things that I had, what I'm saying, like you know, 1:38:26.200 --> 1:38:29.360 I feel like or the relationships and that I had 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:30.880 as well, you know what I'm saying, it's all ego 1:38:30.960 --> 1:38:34.360 shipped for me. So yeah, I wanted to do right 1:38:34.560 --> 1:38:36.320 and it's like not even knowing why you really want 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:37.960 to rock that ship a where it is just because 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:43.280 everyone else that's what everybody else doing. So for me, 1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:46.160 it was just like, man, I need to you know, 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:48.200 I need to find myself Who am I outside of 1:38:48.240 --> 1:38:51.200 that that simple question, bro, like who are you outside 1:38:51.240 --> 1:38:53.600 of that? You know? And that was the search in 1:38:53.680 --> 1:38:55.479 the quest that I was on, which is why I 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:57.720 did the independence. When I got independent, I started my 1:38:57.800 --> 1:39:00.519 first project with trust the Process because I ain't want 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:02.560 to know what the fun was gonna happen during or 1:39:02.760 --> 1:39:05.240 just what's gonna happen to generally people Philly start saying, 1:39:05.560 --> 1:39:07.280 you got that from Philly, right, and you didn't even 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:09.600 know that. I don't even know it. No, I'm I 1:39:09.680 --> 1:39:11.880 watched basketball a little bit, but I'm a football head. 1:39:11.960 --> 1:39:15.000 What I'm saying, like, that's my field. But I did 1:39:15.120 --> 1:39:17.600 become familiar with it, and I think, like, great, we 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:20.200 all inspired, Like you know what I'm saying, like so, 1:39:20.560 --> 1:39:22.120 and I like what they got going on in Philly 1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:26.439 to ship with that trust the Process, that's the same ship. Yeah, yeah, 1:39:26.720 --> 1:39:28.559 I thought it was different. I thought that was building 1:39:28.600 --> 1:39:33.400 process and you also stressed the process problems. I don't know, 1:39:33.520 --> 1:39:35.639 but yeah, exactly. Yeah. You know, I like him slogan 1:39:35.720 --> 1:39:37.800 even with like hustle hard. I like the same old ship. 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:39.880 It's a different day, you know, that slogan being around forever. 1:39:39.960 --> 1:39:42.320 But I like phrases like you know a man have 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:44.240 problem for the hustle hard because he got a hustle 1:39:44.280 --> 1:39:49.680 hard company. You know, you know what I think at 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:52.080 one point during when that song kind of came out. 1:39:52.160 --> 1:39:54.120 It wasn't like smoke, But I think that was like 1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:57.320 a conversation that needed to you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:39:57.439 --> 1:39:58.960 but I fun with main no man on my dog 1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:03.200 an man, no good people like you know, um but yeah, 1:40:03.360 --> 1:40:05.400 like no, I wouldn't really like no smoke smoke over 1:40:05.439 --> 1:40:08.120 that and no, no, no real issue anything. But she 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:12.160 was always loved. Yeah, bro makes some look to that. Yeah, 1:40:15.320 --> 1:40:20.120 secretly hiding over this and chicken. Yeah that's awsomely oose 1:40:20.160 --> 1:40:23.799 are my tests? Oh yeah, it's my COVID tests. Jesus 1:40:24.000 --> 1:40:29.280 on the COVID tests over there? You got? Was that 1:40:29.360 --> 1:40:34.439 public chick? You know? Public? You're taking the shout of 1:40:35.960 --> 1:40:49.400 respect that I don't. Yeah, yeah, I go. Are you ready? 1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:52.760 You gotta pick one, you know, but that the two 1:40:54.360 --> 1:41:01.360 you're ready, I'm ready, Bud that it one? Mm hmm. 1:41:02.800 --> 1:41:18.439 Ross a trick Ross Trio or nicky nick training, Jesus training, 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:22.280 I'm sorry training, Okay, I'd like how you clean that up? 1:41:22.439 --> 1:41:26.240 And to clean it up? Yeah, you can go to 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:36.000 the like like the clean up, put your teeth pain, 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:45.920 you know whatever. God keep paying brout to day brought 1:41:47.200 --> 1:41:58.240 Drake away, but let's go back to day man. Yeah, 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:05.080 they gotta keep it real. I said, we want we 1:42:05.160 --> 1:42:14.439 want drinking Wayne, alright, cool, Nasa Jack, Oh, Nasa. We'll 1:42:14.479 --> 1:42:21.160 be trapped or G five G five. I heard about 1:42:21.160 --> 1:42:25.080 Booby that Yeah, I heard about Booby. But the track 1:42:25.680 --> 1:42:29.360 affiliates over here. Yeah, like we're cool. We just booby 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:32.120 trapped lest But they go at nighttime. We go we 1:42:32.240 --> 1:42:35.200 day time dudes, we go to the midg is working. 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:41.320 We're going different, We're going through hours. You know what 1:42:41.360 --> 1:42:47.479 I'm saying. All Right, Yeah, Okay, we're the best on 1:42:47.600 --> 1:42:54.519 cash money, were the best? Okay? Rolex k o D 1:42:54.760 --> 1:43:03.240 Strip Club ko D. There's a different time frames, man, 1:43:04.160 --> 1:43:06.960 had this run early Rolex and all them all still 1:43:07.080 --> 1:43:10.320 ko D ko D was you know, let's come pre 1:43:10.640 --> 1:43:22.080 ko D. Yeah what Rolex? Take one? Rolex Okay, Kodak blackboard, 1:43:22.120 --> 1:43:35.759 n Sell Curry, that's a rough one, Wow, Koda. Loyalty 1:43:35.960 --> 1:43:47.200 or respect? Respect? I respect? Holy movie, Rock movie. We 1:43:47.240 --> 1:43:51.960 all remember old guys. This feels good. This isn't it? 1:43:52.760 --> 1:43:54.360 You know, I'm always happy when you stop Floridas in 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:56.680 the building. Yeah, he's definitely like if there was like 1:43:56.760 --> 1:44:00.920 a pro city word for like like being like pro 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:07.200 to this like a process this, this this your pro 1:44:07.360 --> 1:44:10.080 saate state this this because are you for the whole Florida? 1:44:10.240 --> 1:44:12.559 Just like just know if you I'm gonna rep all 1:44:12.600 --> 1:44:15.920 of Florida, but I'm gonna be specifically South Florida. But 1:44:16.479 --> 1:44:18.800 if you're from Florida, then you already that's that's fam. 1:44:19.600 --> 1:44:21.759 You got a range right there. You turn busines marketing 1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:32.960 from Floridas killing Mike oh ship, that's all shout out 1:44:33.040 --> 1:44:36.280 a bus markets. So is that advantage being from the 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:42.280 South or is it disadvantage advantage bro, advantage bro that energy, 1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:46.080 that swag like that like it ain't no where else 1:44:46.120 --> 1:44:50.000 in the world. Everybody's trying to recreate it. Everybody. We're 1:44:50.000 --> 1:44:57.200 being honest, Um, you know everybody wants that sudden touch acts. 1:44:57.680 --> 1:45:00.240 You know, Jenna, they I'll let everybody want you know, 1:45:01.000 --> 1:45:04.439 it won't catch the vibes being on the South, that 1:45:04.600 --> 1:45:09.560 South man, that ship slang food, the energy you saying, no, 1:45:10.040 --> 1:45:14.320 I exercise it though, m So you eat you still 1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:19.920 eat Southern food? Not really no, my favorite food right 1:45:19.960 --> 1:45:21.960 now right now, I'm getting you hard. I want you 1:45:22.000 --> 1:45:27.080 to finish the smoke jam. That's only the finest herbs 1:45:27.120 --> 1:45:29.840 on earth. You know, what is this? What do we smoke? 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:35.400 I'm just Gas trow that's not super Tello g No, 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:42.960 this is no. This is your ship whatever your ship? Yeah, 1:45:43.200 --> 1:45:49.720 Gas soon to be fishing mute about Cherry so good 1:45:49.800 --> 1:45:54.680 he didn't even know. Sooner be distributed about CHERRYO with 1:45:54.840 --> 1:46:01.960 the s R S my group because because you don't 1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:04.840 smoke on right, you don't do that. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:46:04.840 --> 1:46:11.160 but you're back with switching. I'm a backward all right man. Yeah, 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:14.879 bro dom switches crazy. I don't like I think y'all's 1:46:14.920 --> 1:46:18.080 like superheroes who can smoke the swishes. That's what I think. 1:46:20.080 --> 1:46:25.639 I love this shot. It's okay, I love I can 1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:29.360 take it. Man. I started off smoking the switches, you know, 1:46:29.439 --> 1:46:31.519 because that's what they was on the Purple Switches. Was 1:46:31.640 --> 1:46:33.560 the was the vibe and tell them she just was 1:46:33.640 --> 1:46:37.599 destroying my throat. I'm like, just my whole vibe was harsh. 1:46:38.360 --> 1:46:40.360 That ship was crazy. I'm like, no, I can never 1:46:41.680 --> 1:46:52.559 drop with you, not not. But what's the happiest moment 1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:56.800 of your whole I mean, besides your kids and your 1:46:56.840 --> 1:46:59.120 marriage because we're gonna go there too. You know what. 1:46:59.120 --> 1:47:04.160 I mean, I mean, what was that one time he 1:47:04.280 --> 1:47:06.720 was like, man, this is this is this is me? 1:47:07.040 --> 1:47:11.559 Like you know, I let me shut up that one 1:47:11.600 --> 1:47:14.080 time where it's like this is me. Oh, this is 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:16.240 not not this is me, but like I have a 1:47:16.360 --> 1:47:25.679 rived belong Oh it's a good question, man. I feel 1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:29.799 like I felt like that when the Hustle Hard record dropped. 1:47:30.560 --> 1:47:32.439 It's like I belonged. I felt like that was a 1:47:32.520 --> 1:47:36.000 solidifying record. But I think like to find my footing 1:47:36.120 --> 1:47:38.840 in the independence world to keep it honest, bro, because 1:47:38.840 --> 1:47:41.160 I feel like I recently had that feeling of where 1:47:41.160 --> 1:47:44.040 it's like, you know, like this is where I belong, 1:47:44.200 --> 1:47:46.040 Like this is what I need to be doing, Like 1:47:46.160 --> 1:47:47.720 this is what I need to be saying right now, 1:47:47.880 --> 1:47:49.840 like you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like 1:47:49.960 --> 1:47:51.960 I'm in the right Like just you know when you 1:47:52.000 --> 1:47:53.760 feel like the universe is a line of things in 1:47:53.840 --> 1:47:56.640 your life and it's like holy ship, Like it's like 1:47:56.720 --> 1:47:58.120 that's where I'm like, you know what I'm saying. So 1:47:58.240 --> 1:48:02.400 it's like when just my independence represents that, man off, 1:48:02.520 --> 1:48:04.759 just like this's what I need to be doing because 1:48:04.800 --> 1:48:06.120 I can do it, and I can do it from 1:48:06.200 --> 1:48:08.600 the Independence perspective. I thought that I put all my 1:48:08.720 --> 1:48:10.920 faith and all my energy and all my identity and 1:48:11.439 --> 1:48:13.840 into that whole idea of being a part of a 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:16.080 major label and a part of that I thought, like, 1:48:16.200 --> 1:48:17.519 you know, I couldn't do it like oh am I 1:48:17.680 --> 1:48:21.439 without that ship and to be who I am in 1:48:21.520 --> 1:48:24.320 the independent world, like still thriving and still relevant in 1:48:24.360 --> 1:48:26.920 this world. I'm like, that's why I need to be. 1:48:27.320 --> 1:48:29.320 I knew I was built for this ship, bro. And 1:48:29.439 --> 1:48:32.360 I agree with you, right God, you gotta give me 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:35.760 a moment where you would like with that, with that 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:39.240 platinum racket and you have to feel like you belong. 1:48:39.560 --> 1:48:42.200 You're telling me, you're telling me what these big records, 1:48:42.280 --> 1:48:44.920 in these platinum records, you're in these parties and you're 1:48:44.960 --> 1:48:48.439 feeling like you didn't belong like you you felt like 1:48:48.720 --> 1:48:50.920 what what does that? What does that yourself? For me? 1:48:51.560 --> 1:48:57.360 Because I'm saying like like like it's certain times in 1:48:57.400 --> 1:48:59.280 my career, Well, I'll go to a party and that's 1:48:59.360 --> 1:49:04.120 my party. Good m my ship. Yeah, you ain't never 1:49:04.560 --> 1:49:07.360 like I feel like that. I feel okay, So for that, 1:49:10.600 --> 1:49:14.880 like I'm going anywhere for this The BT Awards, bro 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:18.599 Okay BT Awards where I felt like that you feel 1:49:18.600 --> 1:49:21.400 what I'm saying, Like, because just the note right, So 1:49:21.800 --> 1:49:25.040 Hustle Heart was a mixtape record, right, it wasn't even 1:49:25.080 --> 1:49:26.760 an album record. Yeah, it was just a record, Like 1:49:26.800 --> 1:49:28.479 I created that, the crib put that BET on the 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:31.000 mix tape, and then once the city got a hold 1:49:31.080 --> 1:49:33.120 to it, like they want to call and phone back 1:49:33.160 --> 1:49:36.120 and back like yo, so they called yo, E class 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:37.519 hit him like yo, you know I pick a beat 1:49:37.560 --> 1:49:40.960 to this. By the way, I don't know if I'm 1:49:41.000 --> 1:49:59.000 that guy ever, I don't know who forever. So so 1:50:00.439 --> 1:50:07.560 damn where was that? What was that? Was? Thank you 1:50:07.640 --> 1:50:14.000 my brother? B two awards right, so I'm like, so 1:50:14.200 --> 1:50:17.400 boom B two awards. Bro. It's the moment where I 1:50:17.520 --> 1:50:20.400 felt like, because Hustle Hart was a mixtape record or whatever, 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:22.120 this is a record that you know it weren't no 1:50:22.240 --> 1:50:25.360 label help, But these were my ideas. This is my voice, 1:50:25.439 --> 1:50:28.400 this is my writing, like, this is my penmanship, you 1:50:28.400 --> 1:50:29.960 know what I mean. We want to perform this ship 1:50:30.000 --> 1:50:32.880 at the BET Awards, bro, Like that's massive where I 1:50:32.960 --> 1:50:35.200 come from. You did, like, and I'm the first artist 1:50:35.280 --> 1:50:38.360 from my city, you know, full disclosure, I'm the first 1:50:38.439 --> 1:50:42.719 artist from Broward County, Broward County, Florida, from the county 1:50:42.720 --> 1:50:47.720 you claim the whole county first, Rowert County, Florida. I am. 1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:51.080 I am the original. I am the first. I am 1:50:51.160 --> 1:50:56.280 the pioneer. That's a fact. That's a fact. It just 1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:00.760 just to be honest with you, not to say that 1:51:00.840 --> 1:51:03.719 there wasn't. I can speak for me, I can't speak 1:51:03.760 --> 1:51:07.160 for the others. I'm speaking about my pioneer, what I did, 1:51:07.240 --> 1:51:11.400 what I contributed to what I yea yeah, yeah, I mean, 1:51:11.439 --> 1:51:15.799 I'm just saying there was from house, not not records 1:51:15.880 --> 1:51:18.840 like that, breaking records like you was doing. I'm just 1:51:18.920 --> 1:51:21.760 saying there was. Just but you know that we all 1:51:21.800 --> 1:51:25.240 all people, we are all doing something on someone else's back, 1:51:25.840 --> 1:51:27.519 and we got to understand that it was about Brown 1:51:27.680 --> 1:51:31.080 County and I'm talking about Brownder County. Well, who back 1:51:31.120 --> 1:51:33.000 would I have done it on at that particular time. 1:51:33.200 --> 1:51:34.960 I'm just saying just artists that have been doing it, 1:51:35.040 --> 1:51:37.360 like since maybe even the eighties, even people I don't 1:51:37.360 --> 1:51:39.800 even know about. I'm from early nineties era that I'm 1:51:39.800 --> 1:51:44.160 talking that I'm thinking about. Okay, okay, for securit legends 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:47.960 from me. Yeah, but I'll respect that yeah, because I'm 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:50.240 just saying there there was people they're doing it, repping 1:51:50.479 --> 1:51:55.120 repping the county when it wasn't cool at all. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, 1:51:55.200 --> 1:51:56.640 But let's let me say that I'm one of the 1:51:56.800 --> 1:51:59.040 pioneers of the city. You know what I'm saying, like 1:51:59.320 --> 1:52:01.920 forshure for short, like in terms of taking it away, 1:52:08.160 --> 1:52:10.040 that's what I'm saying. That's that's That's all I mean. 1:52:11.240 --> 1:52:13.479 And it feels, you know, and then a lot comes 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:15.439 with that, and then like it's a beautiful feeling because 1:52:15.720 --> 1:52:17.559 being the first one you cit ain't always the greatest, 1:52:17.920 --> 1:52:19.679 you know who you think gonna get the most energy 1:52:19.720 --> 1:52:22.160 and the most like towards because it's like, wait a minute, 1:52:22.160 --> 1:52:25.600 what the you know? Um, but it was just a 1:52:25.640 --> 1:52:28.880 beautiful feeling man to be on stage you know, at 1:52:28.920 --> 1:52:31.280 the BT Awards had Rawster, you know what I'm saying, 1:52:31.680 --> 1:52:34.160 performing live, he huge, He got all these great records 1:52:34.200 --> 1:52:36.720 and stuff and uh, you know tune at that time, 1:52:36.760 --> 1:52:38.880 he already huge. And then Cat I just felt like 1:52:39.400 --> 1:52:41.880 just us doing that together and for this to be 1:52:41.920 --> 1:52:45.000 a record that I orchestrated made me feel affirmed, you 1:52:45.040 --> 1:52:46.560 know what I'm saying as a man, bro and I 1:52:46.640 --> 1:52:48.760 think that like that is important. So I feel like 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:51.400 I was solidified and locked in at that moment. I 1:52:51.479 --> 1:52:53.840 felt like the city was proud and Homies was proud. 1:52:53.960 --> 1:52:58.200 You know what I'm saying, Like like hustle hard Man performance, 1:52:58.400 --> 1:53:00.960 you feel me like I felt like at that particular time, 1:53:01.000 --> 1:53:03.000 I'm like, yeah, it's just it right here, and from 1:53:03.040 --> 1:53:05.800 there we just went on to create more. But that 1:53:05.920 --> 1:53:09.719 was definitely an amazing moment for me. Tho crazy moment. 1:53:10.800 --> 1:53:13.120 Now you ever thought like because at the time right 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:16.839 like a little way it was the hottest thing everywhere 1:53:17.360 --> 1:53:23.640 people compart at some time, but not really it was 1:53:23.720 --> 1:53:26.360 it was both dogs can take of your shirts, guy, abs, 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:31.320 and you just think about it, like you can see 1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:36.680 how people will get yes on the South. Yeah, I 1:53:36.760 --> 1:53:39.120 mean like they definitely would do some comparison for sure 1:53:41.960 --> 1:53:46.240 to anybody who Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. 1:53:46.880 --> 1:53:49.120 And that's why I never liked tattooed my entire body 1:53:49.240 --> 1:53:52.280 to keep it gal It's facts, Bro, because I knew 1:53:52.360 --> 1:53:54.479 like I knew it, I knew it was always I 1:53:54.560 --> 1:53:56.760 knew it was already a close comparison between me and Bro. 1:53:57.560 --> 1:53:59.800 So I was like, uh, I can't do all of that, 1:54:00.000 --> 1:54:01.600 plus I'm trying to get into acting and all that 1:54:01.640 --> 1:54:03.640 other stuff like this is when I was young. I 1:54:03.720 --> 1:54:05.880 made this decision. So I got my mom because I 1:54:06.000 --> 1:54:08.680 was going crazy at that time. So, um, that's why 1:54:08.720 --> 1:54:10.080 I don't do that, because I'm like, I ain't trying 1:54:10.080 --> 1:54:12.880 to be another Reppler, because like you, I am myself 1:54:12.960 --> 1:54:15.720 and I'm glad I did it. You have faced, but 1:54:15.760 --> 1:54:17.640 I would have had all probably not face tat. I 1:54:17.680 --> 1:54:19.320 probably would have had it up to the neck, the whole, 1:54:19.479 --> 1:54:22.360 like the whole. Look for sure. Yeah, you have with 1:54:22.479 --> 1:54:26.160 lean in that moment, because yeah, it was just I 1:54:26.200 --> 1:54:28.640 don't think was that big out here. It wasn't in 1:54:28.720 --> 1:54:32.400 your community. I'm talking about out here in Florida, Yes 1:54:32.480 --> 1:54:35.400 it was. I'm not that big. Just being honest, like 1:54:35.400 --> 1:54:37.600 you competing upon what you're comparing it to. If you're 1:54:37.640 --> 1:54:41.280 comparing it to what CALLI compared to Texas, I'm sorry 1:54:41.600 --> 1:54:45.600 New Orleans, Yeah, comparing it to Yeah, it was nothing here. 1:54:45.680 --> 1:54:50.040 If you're comparing it to Texas, Yeah was out here. 1:54:50.160 --> 1:54:53.400 Everything is sucking in Miami and Briar, every South was everything. 1:54:54.120 --> 1:55:06.520 It wasn't that big career, like exactly, you didn't even 1:55:06.560 --> 1:55:13.280 know what you're taking you you know, but if that 1:55:13.320 --> 1:55:15.640 ship popular in one part of the world, is active 1:55:15.680 --> 1:55:19.000 in every every it's always like that, you know, that ship. 1:55:19.680 --> 1:55:21.640 So if it's like the weed popping in Kalid and 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:24.080 you know every place else is gonna be active with 1:55:24.200 --> 1:55:25.920 the weed, it's like they got you know what I'm saying. 1:55:26.760 --> 1:55:29.600 So like we was active down here with it, but 1:55:29.720 --> 1:55:32.480 not like you know, Houston, but being that that ship 1:55:32.560 --> 1:55:35.440 was so heavily and influencing it and we're talking about 1:55:35.440 --> 1:55:38.720 it so much, like you know, it was accessible. So 1:55:38.840 --> 1:55:40.440 I had me a few bottles and ship did my 1:55:40.520 --> 1:55:42.480 thing with that. What made you say that's not you? 1:55:44.320 --> 1:55:47.880 The tiredness and ship bro the after effect, like how 1:55:48.000 --> 1:55:49.840 long you would sleep, how tired you would be, like 1:55:50.000 --> 1:55:52.280 you'd being I feel like you're a genius. Don't own it, 1:55:52.840 --> 1:55:54.440 you know what I'm saying. When you want when you're 1:55:54.480 --> 1:55:57.880 taking the vibe and you you know, the first like 1:55:57.960 --> 1:56:04.560 I always like to look so like you know, you 1:56:04.600 --> 1:56:07.320 get your mixed drop a little, you know, jolly ranches 1:56:07.360 --> 1:56:10.040 in there. You're dropping jolly ranges in there. I'm dropping 1:56:10.120 --> 1:56:12.840 jolly ranches in there. You know what I'm saying. I 1:56:12.920 --> 1:56:16.440 gotta sprite vibe, you know what I mean, I'm already sprite, 1:56:16.560 --> 1:56:25.960 jolly rang a little sweet, definitely little sweet. Yeah yeah, 1:56:26.680 --> 1:56:31.200 all right as hell. Yeah. So you you know, you 1:56:31.320 --> 1:56:33.480 drop some of that in there. I want a heavy 1:56:33.560 --> 1:56:35.240 dust and you know I own experiment like that. I 1:56:35.280 --> 1:56:37.240 ain't just a wild nigger. I've never been at which 1:56:37.280 --> 1:56:40.880 I'm glad. So you know, experiment with a proper amount, 1:56:40.920 --> 1:56:43.040 and then you catch the vibe and then as time 1:56:43.120 --> 1:56:45.600 go on, you kind of build on that energy, you know, 1:56:45.720 --> 1:56:48.520 so um as I would build on that energy, like 1:56:48.640 --> 1:56:51.080 you would start to feel like a little slower to 1:56:51.160 --> 1:56:53.400 wait in some way because you know you're smoking too. 1:56:54.840 --> 1:56:56.560 And then they creates the balance for you. And when 1:56:56.560 --> 1:56:58.880 they creates the balance for you, like for you know, 1:56:59.040 --> 1:57:01.520 you're in the studio, man, I'm knocking out eight nine records, 1:57:02.200 --> 1:57:05.360 you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just not sleepy. 1:57:05.440 --> 1:57:07.600 I'm going though, because it's not an oval, you know 1:57:07.640 --> 1:57:09.280 what I mean, it's not a heavy dose. It's not 1:57:09.400 --> 1:57:12.240 to where I'm just sluggish because you're controlling the dough 1:57:12.440 --> 1:57:14.680 right right. I'm just trying to get a balance of 1:57:14.840 --> 1:57:17.120 just like boom, I got this vibe and I'm parent 1:57:17.160 --> 1:57:18.520 and with the smokes, so it's gonna give me an 1:57:18.560 --> 1:57:21.120 even balance. That's how my mind works. Should be weird. 1:57:22.440 --> 1:57:26.920 But I'm telling you whether the ship create a fire balance, 1:57:26.960 --> 1:57:30.160 so I'd be in that ship, like with the sauce 1:57:31.040 --> 1:57:36.800 New Buggatti was on that sauce. What's around Buggatti time? Yeah, 1:57:36.800 --> 1:57:52.080 it was a round Buggatti time. It's around by Yeah, 1:57:54.080 --> 1:58:00.160 And uh, what's your favorite part of the game. You're 1:58:00.360 --> 1:58:08.400 performing the record, performing that motherfucker bro exactly, you know, 1:58:08.640 --> 1:58:13.840 performing for sure. Uh. But if I got to be 1:58:13.920 --> 1:58:18.080 honest though, I think like making the record, making the 1:58:18.160 --> 1:58:21.080 record gotta be you know, because it's like, you know, 1:58:21.160 --> 1:58:24.360 it's always like the predetermination of what's gonna happen when 1:58:24.360 --> 1:58:28.600 the record dropped. You feel me, it's always like, oh, 1:58:28.720 --> 1:58:30.560 they're just gonna suck them up. They're gonna chant this. 1:58:30.680 --> 1:58:33.360 I know it. Like I know, I know for a fact, 1:58:33.440 --> 1:58:37.480 like when I say same old ship, just a different day, 1:58:37.520 --> 1:58:40.240 I know everybody can relate to that. You're gonna say 1:58:40.280 --> 1:58:42.880 this over and over. I know they're gonna repeat that 1:58:43.560 --> 1:58:46.000 and then to create the record and then to go 1:58:46.080 --> 1:58:47.880 out and perform it and hit him to say pull 1:58:47.920 --> 1:58:54.560 it be back in the magic amount of historic that 1:58:54.720 --> 1:58:59.480 my little crowd voice like, it's active, man, it's active. 1:58:59.560 --> 1:59:01.880 So I like the creation part of it for sure, 1:59:02.760 --> 1:59:04.480 because I like to see what's gonna become of that. 1:59:04.560 --> 1:59:08.120 I like that. Never've been wrong about a record where 1:59:08.160 --> 1:59:15.760 you like, this record never worked, just oh and it 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:28.680 works or vice versa. Mm hmm na. Bro. From being honest, 1:59:29.880 --> 1:59:33.400 I knew what would work and what wouldn't work. From 1:59:33.480 --> 1:59:36.800 being completely honest, bro, like, I knew records that I 1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:39.480 would create, and I knew they would be like, Okay, 1:59:39.520 --> 1:59:42.280 this record works for this particular like you know, these 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:44.480 particular people that might listen to it. You know what 1:59:44.520 --> 1:59:46.080 I'm saying. It might be a record that might be 1:59:46.160 --> 1:59:49.280 talking about the worldly events and the government of what's happening, 1:59:49.320 --> 1:59:53.040 like it's gonna do that, it's gonna do this thing 1:59:53.120 --> 1:59:54.800 and this, you know what I mean. So I measured 1:59:54.880 --> 1:59:57.600 my expectations. So it's like if I'm creating a radio hit, 1:59:58.040 --> 2:00:00.400 that's different, you know what I'm saying, Like for short 2:00:00.440 --> 2:00:02.640 records that I thought was gonna do better than you 2:00:02.680 --> 2:00:04.480 know what I mean, Like, didn't do that great that 2:00:04.560 --> 2:00:07.480 I thought was like, fuck, I got a record that's 2:00:08.120 --> 2:00:10.440 entitled I know how it feels with a type dollar sign. 2:00:11.040 --> 2:00:13.800 It's a smash radio record, but it didn't do what 2:00:13.840 --> 2:00:16.280 I thought it. I'm like, damn this record. Was it 2:00:16.360 --> 2:00:18.320 the fault of the record or because it didn't have 2:00:18.840 --> 2:00:21.360 the radio push? Because it didn't have the radio push, 2:00:21.640 --> 2:00:24.120 so couldn't. It's not necessarily that you were wrong. It's 2:00:24.160 --> 2:00:26.600 just you didn't have maybe the tools that were needed 2:00:26.640 --> 2:00:32.560 to right exactly, which was part of my situation and 2:00:32.680 --> 2:00:35.400 reason to like departure and move on because that was, 2:00:35.920 --> 2:00:39.200 you know, m so right now, how was a new 2:00:39.360 --> 2:00:46.560 artist that you like? You would like the word baby baby, 2:00:47.520 --> 2:00:50.080 little baby? I like that little nigger man. Sorry, I 2:00:50.080 --> 2:00:52.960 always kind of thing twice yeah, because it's too right. 2:00:53.120 --> 2:00:58.040 There's three babies actually, y'all star up. Yeah, that's real 2:00:59.600 --> 2:01:02.840 sath Yeah he said a little baby, little babies. The 2:01:02.880 --> 2:01:06.480 one South Carolina. No, no, no, he went from Atlanta. 2:01:08.360 --> 2:01:11.640 Little baby. That's a little big baby. Yeah. But I 2:01:11.720 --> 2:01:13.400 like the baby ship too, though. I like I thought 2:01:13.440 --> 2:01:15.360 with the baby, but but I what the n G 2:01:15.560 --> 2:01:17.000 M O. And I like little baby. I thought just 2:01:17.120 --> 2:01:20.200 the baby was from South Carolina. He used to wear 2:01:20.280 --> 2:01:23.920 the Pampa North Carolina. They used to wear the father. 2:01:24.240 --> 2:01:27.160 The baby is from North Carolina, right, so you said, 2:01:27.440 --> 2:01:30.680 and then you said a little baby, little baby from Atlanta, right, 2:01:30.720 --> 2:01:34.640 So the baby is the babies but North Carolina, North Carolina. 2:01:34.720 --> 2:01:37.720 He's little babies Atlanta day. He was here, he killed that, 2:01:37.880 --> 2:01:41.240 he wore it. He didn't play around with that and 2:01:41.480 --> 2:01:43.800 to be who he is. He's that little baby, but 2:01:43.960 --> 2:01:46.680 l with the dress. They just had a party. They 2:01:46.720 --> 2:01:53.120 gave Gotti at him all type of q q q C. Yeah, yeah, 2:01:53.600 --> 2:01:58.200 Tom gave his birthday part. I said, yeah, I get 2:01:58.240 --> 2:02:05.920 my life togea bird day party. Was crazy, Yeah, was crazy. Yeah. 2:02:06.120 --> 2:02:09.360 So it's the baby, and that's a little baby. That's 2:02:09.360 --> 2:02:11.760 a little baby, right, a little baby, right, just yeah, 2:02:13.080 --> 2:02:14.720 like a little baby. I've seen him in the World 2:02:14.800 --> 2:02:21.440 Over Story by himself walking around with two thousand. I 2:02:21.560 --> 2:02:24.280 was worth a jury on the plastic bag. His security 2:02:24.400 --> 2:02:27.200 was outside and on, but he walked around by himself 2:02:27.920 --> 2:02:32.520 like the bag. You know, his jury like ad it 2:02:32.560 --> 2:02:36.560 in a plastic bag. I'm walking around my kids getting breakfast. 2:02:36.640 --> 2:02:39.240 The Wall Over the story. Remember, so I'm going from 2:02:39.600 --> 2:02:43.920 like the regular people entrance to my actual room. He's 2:02:43.960 --> 2:02:47.240 coming from the actual room. So we look I've seen 2:02:47.280 --> 2:02:53.280 each other Boom I like to do to tell he's 2:02:53.360 --> 2:02:58.760 a m hmm street with it. Yeah, security, but they 2:02:58.840 --> 2:03:01.880 was outside. I like that in it, like they even 2:03:02.000 --> 2:03:05.200 moved on their own and their own problems. On your own, 2:03:05.320 --> 2:03:06.760 you know what I mean, that's the type of guy 2:03:06.840 --> 2:03:11.520 in they you rolled up by yourself. That's the second time, 2:03:11.600 --> 2:03:14.120 I think, right, No, third time. They wouldn't expect you 2:03:14.200 --> 2:03:17.080 to do that. That's the third time it's happened. People 2:03:17.120 --> 2:03:19.800 wrote a drink chapter by themselves. Okay, I mean that 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:24.920 I remember so pitbo recently. People weird. What do you 2:03:24.960 --> 2:03:33.560 mean he walked weird people like people, I don't know what. Yeah, 2:03:34.440 --> 2:03:38.800 that's my dog. And then at fifty in a little hey, 2:03:39.000 --> 2:03:42.360 he originally came by himself. I know, people followed. No, 2:03:42.520 --> 2:03:48.960 he was by himself. We used to do drink little 2:03:49.640 --> 2:03:53.800 and he pulled up the driver. I think if he 2:03:53.880 --> 2:03:56.360 had a driver, it was a driver. He walked into 2:03:56.440 --> 2:03:59.320 the spot by himself. This is absolutely who had to 2:03:59.400 --> 2:04:01.640 drive it. I think even has security. He told security 2:04:01.960 --> 2:04:05.600 relaxed and the driver relaxed, and he walked in by himself. 2:04:06.000 --> 2:04:08.960 And I was so honored an' so, I mean, I'm 2:04:08.960 --> 2:04:14.240 sure you was, But I was so honored that, you know, 2:04:14.480 --> 2:04:17.960 you know, a star like hip hop, trust trust us 2:04:17.960 --> 2:04:21.640 because we were let happen like it doesn't matter. It's 2:04:21.680 --> 2:04:24.560 the safer anybody is around this one like where we 2:04:24.680 --> 2:04:30.000 set up and reason Miami boys, because I've been living 2:04:30.000 --> 2:04:32.840 out here in fourteen years, somewhat think Miami claimed me 2:04:32.880 --> 2:04:35.880 and I claimed Miami. Uh God damnit, Florida, God damn, 2:04:35.920 --> 2:04:38.200 let's make some nor if you got to make some 2:04:38.280 --> 2:04:42.400 little thing and I'm not gonna lie, make some noise 2:04:46.280 --> 2:04:53.320 LA claim that's crazy. It's crazy. He's still living laridae. Okay, 2:04:53.760 --> 2:04:59.360 you moved to Atlanta. I thought just to really really 2:04:59.480 --> 2:05:03.720 you know, nice beautiful place and uh that's my city 2:05:04.720 --> 2:05:08.120 and uh I love it here. Man. I lived in 2:05:08.200 --> 2:05:10.440 californ A little bit. You know what I'm saying. I 2:05:10.600 --> 2:05:15.800 was going back and yeah, yeah, part of Cali um 2:05:17.120 --> 2:05:22.280 was that I had was it l a though it 2:05:22.440 --> 2:05:24.480 was l A It wasn't l A, Yes, it was 2:05:24.640 --> 2:05:29.720 l a. Um. What's what's the what's the beach out 2:05:29.760 --> 2:05:35.240 in Cali? Santa Monica, Santa Monica Beach? Because I lived 2:05:35.240 --> 2:05:43.400 by Santa Monica Beach. That's where I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. 2:05:43.520 --> 2:05:45.480 Definitely lived by that area though, but it was like 2:05:45.600 --> 2:05:49.000 a very nice area, man, like good vibes out there, 2:05:49.000 --> 2:05:51.840 and stayed out there and recorded some projects. Um. I 2:05:51.920 --> 2:05:53.760 mean I was kind of coming back to see my family, 2:05:53.840 --> 2:05:57.760 see my kids and stuff. So um yeah, man, But 2:05:57.960 --> 2:06:00.320 I love living out here in Florida. I do't at 2:06:00.360 --> 2:06:03.360 some point though, I get another space somewhere else, but 2:06:03.440 --> 2:06:06.760 I always have like my main crib in Florida. It's 2:06:06.800 --> 2:06:15.240 just ain't nothing like nothing like the crib. Bro. You're married. 2:06:15.440 --> 2:06:21.880 You're married Mary like me. That's another version of Mary. Yeah, yeah, 2:06:21.960 --> 2:06:27.320 the hip hop version of marriage. Right, you're married married Mary? Mary. 2:06:28.520 --> 2:06:31.400 How long you've been Mary? I've been married now for 2:06:31.560 --> 2:06:43.080 about for about eight months? Eight months okay, Yeah, I'm 2:06:43.120 --> 2:06:46.680 newly w Yeah. I got married in February right before 2:06:46.720 --> 2:06:51.040 the pen Yeah, thank you brother. I've been with my 2:06:51.120 --> 2:06:54.760 wife about five years, five and a years huh yeah, 2:06:55.280 --> 2:07:00.200 six years yeah yeah man. That's my uh man, that's 2:07:00.280 --> 2:07:04.120 my love. That's my motherfucking dog. Bro. Like that's the 2:07:04.160 --> 2:07:09.840 really ship out of money ya for real? Yeah yeah, bro, 2:07:10.040 --> 2:07:17.000 for real? And I love you know. What's so what's 2:07:17.040 --> 2:07:20.200 so crazy? Bro? Is that you know, I'll be hearing 2:07:20.240 --> 2:07:22.440 how people be speaking some time about marriage and ship 2:07:22.520 --> 2:07:24.760 and time like how it's hard and all of that. 2:07:25.400 --> 2:07:27.600 It's crazy. I'd be seeing episodes and just seeing ship 2:07:27.680 --> 2:07:30.560 and just like some people be under playing marriage. BRO. 2:07:31.960 --> 2:07:35.560 I agree you like you know, if you if both 2:07:35.680 --> 2:07:39.600 the parties in the marriage decide to like grow and 2:07:39.720 --> 2:07:43.800 work through ship and have conversations about it, you could 2:07:43.840 --> 2:07:46.560 have a beautiful marriage of you and that other person 2:07:46.640 --> 2:07:49.640 that's on the same page. It can be so beautiful, Bro. 2:07:50.200 --> 2:07:52.760 It can be like like that's just like magic MONEYGA. 2:07:53.360 --> 2:07:57.160 That's how I feel. You feel me, That's how I 2:07:57.240 --> 2:08:03.520 feel like that what you're doing I put on glasses. Okay, 2:08:04.880 --> 2:08:07.880 that's which people ship right there. I respect that respect 2:08:07.920 --> 2:08:14.800 that no real drew to respect. I love. I think 2:08:14.800 --> 2:08:20.120 another shot as a counselor another shot as a count yo. 2:08:20.400 --> 2:08:23.879 I mean that's wrong. I'm not gonna lie. Don't listen 2:08:23.920 --> 2:08:27.000 when you get the check from you know what, man, 2:08:28.000 --> 2:08:29.440 I met with the guys. I'm met with the guys. 2:08:29.480 --> 2:08:34.120 They're not ready for us, Bro, already met it check. 2:08:34.160 --> 2:08:37.280 We're not getting the check. Shout out to love. We're 2:08:37.320 --> 2:08:41.320 not getting the check. Listen, I say we I said. 2:08:41.360 --> 2:08:45.720 When you know I know this, you gotta back. People 2:08:45.800 --> 2:08:52.000 brought this to us. It's not happening yet. Holy movie only. 2:08:53.320 --> 2:08:55.520 I love hip hop? Man? Do you love hip hop? 2:08:55.760 --> 2:09:00.800 I love hip hop? Brother a little bit. Yeah, but 2:09:00.840 --> 2:09:06.440 I don't want to Okay, I want okay, Okay, you're 2:09:09.360 --> 2:09:12.760 I killed that. I killed that by lifting it up. 2:09:13.240 --> 2:09:16.880 I killed that. Yeah, I transferred. I transferred to energy too. 2:09:17.240 --> 2:09:19.720 That was great energy. That was great energy. I transferred 2:09:20.280 --> 2:09:29.840 a little bit. Motherfucker. One thing you regret that you 2:09:29.920 --> 2:09:35.000 could do all over. You could do it all over 2:09:35.040 --> 2:09:38.320 and say, you know what, we do that different. Let 2:09:38.360 --> 2:09:43.080 me do it this way. What would it be? M M? 2:09:44.320 --> 2:09:51.640 I think the way that the way that I handled 2:09:53.960 --> 2:09:55.520 Not to say that it was terrible or not to 2:09:55.560 --> 2:10:00.880 say that it was disrespectful, but I think that if 2:10:01.000 --> 2:10:03.920 I could with our situation, with like the me and 2:10:04.000 --> 2:10:11.200 callous situation, if I could have just handled it in 2:10:11.280 --> 2:10:14.400 a very different way, not in a not in a 2:10:14.480 --> 2:10:16.400 bad way, but if I could have just made minor 2:10:16.520 --> 2:10:20.720 changes in terms of how I exited out. You know 2:10:20.760 --> 2:10:23.680 what I'm saying, Like, I think I would have done 2:10:23.720 --> 2:10:26.840 that in a different way. See what I'm saying, Like, 2:10:27.400 --> 2:10:29.480 it's not. I don't. I don't regret anything. I don't. 2:10:29.520 --> 2:10:32.800 But if I just I would have exited. It could 2:10:32.800 --> 2:10:35.400 have been done differently. And what part do you think 2:10:35.440 --> 2:10:42.800 that you would do better? A conversation, A conversation beforehand, 2:10:42.840 --> 2:10:47.520 as opposed to the lawyers. I didn't call the lawyers first. 2:10:49.000 --> 2:10:54.280 What I did was, um interviews. You know, I started 2:10:54.320 --> 2:10:57.560 to express exactly, I started to express myself in the music, 2:10:58.880 --> 2:11:01.040 not even to human mak us came after when I 2:11:01.080 --> 2:11:04.440 got my independence, but um, in that time, it was 2:11:04.520 --> 2:11:07.480 more so just I started to express myself in my 2:11:07.640 --> 2:11:11.160 music as opposed to having a direct conversation with him. 2:11:11.280 --> 2:11:13.680 Was about it, no, no, no, no no no, it 2:11:14.000 --> 2:11:16.600 was like, uh, it's uh. That's when I went to 2:11:16.680 --> 2:11:19.640 calig too, and it was Starvation four that I created, 2:11:19.640 --> 2:11:22.240 and I started speaking to my music about how I 2:11:22.320 --> 2:11:25.040 felt like the label wasn't really in support of my 2:11:25.160 --> 2:11:27.480 ideas and the things that I wanted to do. You 2:11:27.520 --> 2:11:30.960 know what I'm saying. So as opposed to having a 2:11:31.280 --> 2:11:34.480 uh you know, behind doors converation, you know, conversation with 2:11:34.640 --> 2:11:38.240 him just about my uneasiness and what I'm feeling. You 2:11:38.320 --> 2:11:40.520 feel me like, this is what I feel broad. You know, 2:11:41.040 --> 2:11:42.400 I wish you would have came to me about this. 2:11:42.480 --> 2:11:44.120 How I wish we could have just hashed that out 2:11:44.600 --> 2:11:46.880 as men. But I wasn't a man back, you know 2:11:46.880 --> 2:11:50.120 what I mean at that particular time to realize not 2:11:50.240 --> 2:11:52.080 to say that I made it, mean any mistakes, because 2:11:52.080 --> 2:11:54.440 I love where I am and I'm so grateful for 2:11:54.600 --> 2:11:57.040 where I am, you know what I'm saying. But it's 2:11:57.040 --> 2:11:58.840 just that because I still would have made my exit. 2:11:58.880 --> 2:12:01.120 I still wanted my freedom. Don't get it twisted. I 2:12:01.160 --> 2:12:02.960 still wanted to go off and do my own things. 2:12:03.280 --> 2:12:09.480 You know, but who knows? Who knows? How? Um? Who? 2:12:09.520 --> 2:12:11.880 Who knows? That's all I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna say, 2:12:11.920 --> 2:12:14.080 who knows. Like one of the greatest things is like 2:12:14.320 --> 2:12:17.520 you know what stupid exit with Dr Dre. It went 2:12:17.600 --> 2:12:19.840 to master p and Dr Dre kept working with him. 2:12:20.720 --> 2:12:23.360 That was some crazy ship to me, Like you no, 2:12:23.480 --> 2:12:27.080 that stets overlooked a lot, but like that was like 2:12:27.200 --> 2:12:30.720 almost like yo, bro, your decision was right, Like did 2:12:30.760 --> 2:12:32.640 you wish like you could have done that, like you 2:12:32.680 --> 2:12:35.760 know when you exited we're the best and just kept 2:12:35.800 --> 2:12:40.360 that relationship so tight, like colleague, That's exactly kind of 2:12:40.400 --> 2:12:45.440 what he's saying facts and I'm not gonna say that, 2:12:45.880 --> 2:12:50.640 but I'm I am gonna say that I do believe 2:12:53.440 --> 2:12:57.120 that the universe will align itself. I believe That's what 2:12:57.120 --> 2:13:01.080 I'm gonna say. That's that's what I'm gonna say. You 2:13:01.080 --> 2:13:07.440 know what I'm saying, That's what I'm gonna say. I 2:13:07.480 --> 2:13:11.680 don't think it is. I don't know it isn't he 2:13:13.040 --> 2:13:16.280 is because you know, you know, you know, you we 2:13:16.440 --> 2:13:18.600 never you know, I never forget, you know what I mean. 2:13:18.720 --> 2:13:20.960 Like that's the thing about when people talk about loyalty 2:13:21.000 --> 2:13:25.760 and all of that dog It's like, you know, just 2:13:25.800 --> 2:13:30.200 because we might have had a a fallout or a disagreement, 2:13:31.160 --> 2:13:33.840 does that negate all of the greatness in the history 2:13:33.920 --> 2:13:37.360 that we created and the opportunities that were Like and 2:13:37.440 --> 2:13:40.200 if I if I refer if I become president, I 2:13:40.320 --> 2:13:45.840 dropped myself in those moments like ship were beautiful, this 2:13:45.880 --> 2:13:49.200 ship was amazing, This ship changed my life. N this, 2:13:49.480 --> 2:13:52.000 you know what I'm saying, Like this, my kids, my family, bro, 2:13:52.160 --> 2:13:54.840 like my being everything. Bro. You know what I'm saying, 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:57.240 it changed everything. I can't forget that the way that 2:13:57.560 --> 2:14:01.959 that you've evolved, You're maturing he is as well. Exactly, 2:14:02.400 --> 2:14:05.800 everybody's grown. Everybody's growing, bro, everybody's making the same mistakes 2:14:07.040 --> 2:14:08.920 and and and that's the at the end of the day. 2:14:09.160 --> 2:14:11.760 That's the reality of things, bro, That's the reality. So 2:14:11.960 --> 2:14:14.960 for me, it's like it's never to take that energy 2:14:15.080 --> 2:14:16.640 because we had a bad moment that we had a 2:14:16.720 --> 2:14:19.120 disagreement to be like yo, our own rock with him 2:14:19.160 --> 2:14:21.200 on this to that and and you know talk you know, 2:14:21.680 --> 2:14:24.040 tain't his name out in public or whatever. That ain't 2:14:24.080 --> 2:14:26.560 my character, bro, because I believe what's for me is 2:14:26.640 --> 2:14:28.600 for me and I'm destined for greatness because I am 2:14:28.680 --> 2:14:31.280 already nick. I am nigga like it ain't you know 2:14:31.320 --> 2:14:33.280 what I mean? Like, And once I learned that, it's 2:14:33.320 --> 2:14:36.520 like we're here, We're here, like he great? So am 2:14:36.560 --> 2:14:40.040 I You feel me like I need my own relationships. 2:14:40.080 --> 2:14:41.520 You feel I gotta make my own moves and do 2:14:41.640 --> 2:14:44.200 my own thing, like bump my own head and living 2:14:44.240 --> 2:14:46.480 my own glory, feel me like, and I love that 2:14:47.160 --> 2:14:48.760 And me I ain't got no hatred in my heart. 2:14:48.800 --> 2:14:50.360 And I think like what we had was great, but 2:14:50.520 --> 2:14:53.880 you know, you move on, God bless y'all will fix this. 2:14:56.640 --> 2:14:59.400 I'm gonna watch it. That's that's your drink. 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