1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's greed. Is your boy here? 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: No R He's a Miami hippoper Lioneer. Up is d 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: J e f N. Together they drink it up with 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk fast drink 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: chas motherfuckings New year' z. That's like it's time for 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Drink Champs. Trink up, motherfucker mother? Would it good? Beat? 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Hopefully wouldn't s be? This says your boy l What 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: up is d J E F And this is drink Chance, motherfucker? 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Yappya make some And right now when you're talking about 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Broward County legend, you know what I mean, dear Field 14 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: uh legend, uh Florida legend. The man has worked with 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: everybody from Applies to Rick Ross to Wile to Tea 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Paying the Birdman the Trick to Waka's a Little Wayne, 17 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: to meet Mail the Fabulous, to change the Freshman. I 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: don't know what versu he ain't working with. He may 19 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: they too, are, and I gotta keep a hundred on 20 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: this intro then throughout this interview. When you think of 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: we're the best, is two people that you think of 22 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: who built that company, that was on the forefront on 23 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: that camera, and this is one of them. He stood 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: next to college they did all uh made history together, 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: and he went on to do his own independence. He's 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: holding it down. He ain't complaining about leaving the team. 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: He's staying here and he's doing what the hell he 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: gotta do. He's out here monkey fucking the game, still 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: being renavant, still doing what you gotta do. In case 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: you don't know what you tell we're talking about, we 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: talk about motherfucker, motherfucker now legendary. In the beginning, in 32 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: the beginning, In the beginning, Uh, you you wrapped it 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: because you're like you're like a rapper, rapper, like like 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: you're a lyricist, like I can tell you ain't gonna 35 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: writing the rhyme down and just and and half acid 36 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: understand you one of those two? So how did you 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: even develop that in the beginning? And especially I guess 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: it's a double double question because a lot of people 39 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: don't look at all souve artists as lyricists, you know 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So a lot of people, So how 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: did you develop that? Like, you know what I'm saying, 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: being lyrical and then being lyrical first and yeah, so 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: being a lyrical thing, bro, I came up on trying 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to put it self so so sure, sure I am 45 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: Black the Wild Kevin. So you know, I don't know, man, 46 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: you know what so crazy is that the fact that 47 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: South artist wasn't really known for lyricism putting together rhymes 48 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: like that. So it's like, uh, I wanted to be 49 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a South artist that was able to do so. So 50 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of like you know, uh 51 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: up North influence, you know what I'm saying. So it's 52 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: like cannabis, big yail, like you know what I mean. 53 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of people that was really rapping, 54 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: people who was really doing a thing. So uh So 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: for me, it was always about that. You know, these 56 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: were people who were saying words using terminology and just 57 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: language that which is very different, you know what I'm saying. 58 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: So to me, I wanted to have a little bit 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: of both because yeah, we got the bounce, but I 60 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: want to be able to say something in my music, 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, and then obviously being with with with Calli 62 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: and the whole situation was like, uh, the expectation, you know, 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: once the bar get raised, it's like, that's what we 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: at with it. It's nothing. It wasn't out here. It 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: just wasn't. It was a lot some real stuff like that. 66 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: In terms of the South, that's what people consider. People 67 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: didn't consider us as being lyric like going to going 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: to to pick up you and and and you're cool, 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: like your analogies, the buzz superiors and all that. We 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't think that existed. That's why when you bring that 71 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: up and you speak about we thought basic music, but 72 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't like looking from it. And to 73 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: tell you truth, us as consumers at that time, I 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's all we wanted from the South. Yeah, like that, 75 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, I don't know, I'm say that you're 76 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: looking at me grazy. Did you ever received slack by 77 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: being so lyrical? Like did anybody saying, you know, you're 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: too lirial, you get out of here? Yeah? Bro? So 79 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: um oh, this is interesting because in the in the beginning, 80 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: I came in so lyrical and I wanted to wrap 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: you know what I mean I wanted to be on 82 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: some lyrical, typrical, pyrical, the different thing, you know what 83 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, cannabis you know you don't those Canadas, right, 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I wanted to be 85 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: on that type of ship. I wanted to really wrap 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: but coming into the game in the industry, like I 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: was taught that you had to dumb it down. You 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: did like you know, um, I was taught that at 89 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: that particular time that the consumer that wasn't what the 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: consumer was was looking for when they wanted to have 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: a good time. Like just the people that I'm around, 92 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, like your crew, like it's my crew. It's 93 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the industry focused the people that believe that it was 94 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: you know, partly like Kalim because because you're not in 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: a way of saying that you can't be lyrical. But 96 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: just um, it's different when you're trying to create a 97 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: radio record or record, you know what I'm saying. So 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know that in retrospect they were 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: probably wrong, but I and they said jay Z did 100 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, I mean that's what I was 101 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: told because even did the same thing. It's widely yeast 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: b and I mean, I don't know at what point, 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: but it's what I mean. I don't know if this 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: is a rumor, but it's widely knowing that he said 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: that he had to bring it to a level where 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to bring people in so that everybody could understand, 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and then he was gonna raise the bar once he 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: had them. That's what that's what that's that's because I 109 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: looked at two Box whole career. I've never seen him 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: dumb it down, not at one point have to hit 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: me up and front like two bocks dumb down. I 112 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: think he had more in some cases. I think I 113 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: think Too Popular went deeper with some of it, you 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But not not really. And you yourself, 115 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: you've ever dumbed it down? Yeah? Yeah, for sure, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 116 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're trying to learn, you know, 117 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: you're trying to build a fan base. You know, it's 118 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, you know, you're listening to the people 119 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: that've done it before, you know what I'm saying, So 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: it's like, um, you know, you gotta experiment, man, you 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that that's really what it 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: was like for me. It was like, all right, cool. 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: So I know I have to dumb it down and 124 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: know to create in order to create certain records. But 125 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: I also know that, um, you know, I got so 126 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: much more in me, you know what I mean. I 127 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: can tell real stories and stuff like that. You listen 128 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: to nas, you listen to people like yourself, like you're 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: her stories. I like that take me on a journey 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: throughout this, you know what I'm say and like, So 131 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: that's that's more so where I'm at now in my mind. 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm Deerfield Beach right now. Growing up there? Who 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: was your who was your influences? Because I'm sure it's 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: very cliche to say trick daddy, but it's just some 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: difficult Uh yeah, I want to know too. Yeah. So, 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: so coming up the Deerfield legends were they weren't in 137 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: music though, you know what I mean, They weren't musicians. 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: These guys with ballplayers. I grew up playing football. That 139 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: was my thing. So what I'm saying, so like all 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the legends, you know a lot of people that you 141 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: see in the NFL or whatever, like these are the 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: people that we just came up looking up towards, you 143 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Tyrone, mass of these guys, 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: and you had like I grew up playing with Patrick Peterson, 145 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and uh so many other 146 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: guys JP, p um uh. Just just those type of people, 147 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: you know. We was really I grew up looking up 148 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to like Dion Santas. I wanted to be like growing up, 149 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: you feel me like Crown Time. So it was more 150 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: so of that. And on the music side I looked 151 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: up to more so you know, you got the waynes 152 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: we had the soldier slim like. I was big on 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: that South type stuff. So um so that that was 154 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: really where my influence came from when I was young. 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, we all wanted to on our foe Willis Yea, 156 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: I played football. Yeah. Not. The funny thing is when 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't live out here, I always looked at it 158 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: always be in Miami, meaning let's talk about that Phil Beach. 159 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: I thought that was Miami. About Hollywood, I thought that 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: was Miami. Uh for a lot of them know what's Miami? Uh, 161 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: what's the what's my man called that black come from? 162 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: All These plays are very different. You gotta live out 163 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: here to know that because once they see once you 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: land and you see the palm trees and you see 165 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: the same dregs and the same goals. Yeah, it wasn't 166 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: till I got here, like you know, you know the 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: brook and the Queen's rivalry, the queens within Queen's rivalry, 168 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: and I started like you know, the cop up Browner County. 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Uh day, was you on that side of the fence 170 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: where like you know, it was hard for you. So 171 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: so for us bro growing up where we're from, it 172 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: was it was it was Haitian American issues, Faitians Americans. 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: So literally like in high school, you know you so 174 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: in high school in the elementary like, so that was 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: the main thing. And where I stayed at, which is 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: interesting is that, Um, I grew up in an all 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Haitian neighborhood, which is why I came into the game 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: with so many zos and all my homies, like so 179 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: that's my my brotherhood. It's like my family, you know. Um. 180 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: And the Americans grew up on the west side. So 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: that was always an issue because I'm an American and 182 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like or just like 183 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: right like American, right, Um, But that was the rival 184 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: issue going on. So you had a lot of people 185 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: selling drugs on this side and doing their thing and 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: hustling and doing that business or whatever. But them guys 187 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: from this side can't come to this side, you know. 188 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: And if you're from that side, you can't come to 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: that side. And I'm from this side, but I got 190 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: homes from that west side. So that was always like 191 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: it's New York is looking at looking at all of y'all, everybody, 192 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: like this is happening in Deerfield. This is like three 193 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: minutes down the street. Like if I'm staying on sixty sixty, 194 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: sixty street, whatever, you got the other homies there on 195 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: the west side, and it's it's always it's back and 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: forth beef. Now you got homies pulling up on the 197 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: block doing what they do. You got homies pulling up 198 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: on our block doing what they do. And it's like, 199 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: if you ain't sail nothing in this area, if you 200 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: ain't do nothing to contribute to this area, you can't 201 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: really come to this area per se. But real Florida 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: is they think Florida Miami. Everything is south. Like if 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about on some ship and I'm not just 204 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: saying this, but if you're talking about like the trenches 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: of Brower County. You're talking about deer Field pumping the period. 206 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: If you're talking about that's what I believe, like um pumping, 207 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, and what's so crazy about that? 208 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: It's literally like deer Filt pamplot was one and the 209 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: same because eventually, like our area cold and it got 210 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: switched from Deerfield to actually complace. I didn't understand who COOLDA. 211 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Black was and like, you know how he was doing 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: his tactics until I started hanging out with people that 213 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: that's like him, and I'm like, okay, this is look 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: like they're all a little crazy, got mad sense, got 215 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: math sense. So um, so I'll tell us. The difference, Uh, 216 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: had you been from Miami would have been a difference 217 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: in in in anything you have done. Yeah, that would 218 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: have been different. There would have been a different swaggle, 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: for sure. I think there would have been definitely a 220 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: different swag, different ideas about myself, you know. Um, you know, 221 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Miami was much more different. You know, Miami used to 222 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: consider themselves as a little bit more forward than than 223 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: Broward County was. Right, So when UH say they was 224 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: on let's say fitted jeans and fitted shirts, Broward County, 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: we were still. Uh you know two x three shirts. 226 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, box you pull up, we 227 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: still they still playing the Boosey and all over right 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: before you saying so, I think it just would have 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: been different. And I think that's such a prominent point 230 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: for me in my career because I received it was 231 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: so much like hatred because of that, because of the 232 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: moves in the beginning, because like when people say hatred 233 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: not from not from your I mean just because like 234 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, so the biggest thing was that I was 235 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: from I'm from Deerfield, but shooting content in Miami, you 236 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: went through that, huh for you like, because like you know, 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't from left Back. My first video was in 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: queens Bridge. They did not let they did not let 239 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: me go down. I had no power. I had no power, right, Okay, 240 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: So the people were left Frock like queens Bridge, You're 241 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge, dude. I'm like, no, I'm from left Frax. 242 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: If you're gonna look at this time of my album, 243 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: I had to say left Frac three thirty six hundred 244 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: times to make sure I did not playing queens Bridge. 245 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: I had no power at the time ahead and that's 246 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: the issue that I was dealing with because I felt 247 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: like I needed to go back and say, dear Field 248 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: and in the city constantly, so now popping up in 249 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: the city. Now we shooting videos in the city. But 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, eventually, over time I started to learn that 251 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't really about that, you know what I'm saying, 252 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Because constantly people was trying to attach me to Miami. 253 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: And every time somebody would, I'm like, bro, I'm not 254 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: from Miami. I ain't grow up in the streets. That 255 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: ain't my hood. And you understand, like I take that 256 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: to heart because I don't know them parts. And if 257 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: like you know, like we grew up and you don't 258 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: know them parts, you can't really speak on that, you 259 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just simple and plain. So 260 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: for me, I understood the idea of them like cool. 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: But everything I would say, yo, brow would not if 262 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: our fault was on my skin is in my life. 263 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Like I took it around the world, I moved it, 264 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, that was 265 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: the biggest issue because Miami do things in a very 266 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: different way than I feel like a brow would do it. 267 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A lot of cocaine. If 268 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: you know who knows? I want to take a shot. 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I want to take a shot. Shot man, I'm here, yes, yes, sir, um, 270 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: I need you know. We heard you around guy, so 271 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: we got you. We heard you the bamboo, so we 272 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: got you that. I got you that tune. I'm gonna 273 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: do the regular. You know some mom wanna No, I'm sorry, um, yeah, 274 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You have a conversation about the 275 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: how much you like the mama wanna? But I'm putting 276 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: in here now behind the paddle. No, I'm gonna do regular. 277 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: She wants some bamboo I'm gonna do and we don't. 278 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: We don't know if you know. But our sure was 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: about celebrating people. You know, so many people want to 280 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: get rid of people. And you know, I'm gonna looking 281 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: at your crib. You have career, you have a lot 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: of trials and trip relations daughter ups and downs, but 283 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: you stay solid. You stayed you know down, you stayed loyal. 284 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into all that, but we're gonna 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: salute you as we get in solid. Okay, So I 286 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: want the shot before I go on. Go on, think 287 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: you ain't gotta life? Come on, man, you see some more. 288 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Come on, what's going on? Every life on the room 289 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: was disappointed right now? Come on, come on, but hey, 290 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I'll get it, do it. So Trials and Triple Relation 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: seven on going over the place. Um, what made you 292 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: name your album that at that time? Ah? Ship oh man, 293 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I would going through a lot of trials at that 294 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: particular time. Um, what was I do actually dealing with 295 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: at that time? With trials and tribulations? That was bug 296 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: on there and that was hard. Um, Trials and tribulations 297 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: was like the the answer to what I had been through, 298 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, in order to like, uh, to solidify myself 299 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: as an artist. You know, I felt like I had 300 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: great records in the beginning, but I felt like it 301 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 1: wasn't up until Hustle Hard was like my self proclaimed 302 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: record that was like the record people know me for. 303 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like in any artist's career, I think 304 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: it's important for you to have a self establishing record 305 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: for yourself. And to me, Hustle Hard was gonna like 306 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: I know, but I say that to paying in of 307 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: just trials and tribulations, I feel like I was just 308 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: dealing with I would just I was dealing with so much, man, 309 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: I think in terms of just taking care of my family, 310 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and trying to take care 311 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: of my family and everybody in my family and take 312 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: care of myself and also still trying to be president 313 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: and create records and and and you know what I'm saying, 314 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: and had these ideas and make sure that these are 315 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: my ideas and not someone else's ideas. Make sure like 316 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm fully involved in the process of doing that, and 317 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: make sure I'm seeing my children at the same token. 318 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Since I say I'm doing I'm doing all of this 319 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: for the people that I love. You know what I'm saying. 320 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: You want to I want to make sure I'm spending 321 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: time with these people. So I was just going through 322 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: like I was just trying to find my balance and 323 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So trials and tribulations for me 324 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: at that point was just you know, I just needed 325 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: to overcome something, man, and really just like get my 326 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: feet planning for real, for real, because I felt like 327 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I was, I guess, being overcome in some way man, 328 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, or just figuring it out. Just that too, 329 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: that too, that too, and point you did cash for? 330 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: I did cash for That was like one of the 331 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: first records I did. That was after I'm So Hood, 332 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: but I'm So Hood didn't come out. No, no no, no, 333 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: that was before man, Yeah, that was before. So that 334 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: was like two thousand and eight, you know what I'm saying. 335 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: That was like one of the first few records. So 336 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: once we decided, once I got signed to the whole 337 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: were the best situation. Like we went in and we 338 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: started to create records like right away. So that was 339 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: one of the records that came out of the batch. 340 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Cooling and Drade was a part of that record. You 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Shout out Cooling and Drade them 342 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: called them, came in and we just wanted to create 343 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: some special man, you know what I'm saying. And then 344 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: like just to have the idea of having Tee pain 345 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: and rost him on that ship was nasty, bro. He 346 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: was that yeah. Yeah, so all right take the shot. Okay, 347 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready, baby Solo Solottle back out. So Collins has 348 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: this radio station in nine Yeah, and one of your 349 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: boys got the plug to tell you that he's dead 350 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: or you just figure I'm gonna just pull up my 351 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: boy hold him on the radio. At that time, he 352 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: heard him on the radio and it was like some 353 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: type of contest or something like he had he had 354 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: going on. So when he he when he hit me 355 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 1: about it, he came to the crib and I was like, 356 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, catched up at ninety nine jams. 357 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, so what that means? Like you know 358 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: what we're doing? He's like, Yeah, We're gonna go up 359 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: to the radio station and like try to wrap for 360 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: bro like records at the time, or you were just 361 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: going into rap records, because you know, they pull up, right, 362 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: we pull up. We pull up. First of all, we 363 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: in the merk. We're in the Mercury, the Mercury leaning 364 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: on over y'all, you know, and Paul is the old 365 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: school's back then. You know what what I'm saying, I ain't 366 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna let you have this. Yeah you don't 367 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about it, but it's a Mercury, right, 368 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: But that's the call. You know, they fixed him up. 369 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: They were like the bubble, the bubble, Chevyes backing and 370 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: all that good stuffy and policy. So we in that. 371 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's important to say that because 372 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: of just what that representing. You feel me like the 373 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: sound system work you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, 374 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to get it. It's right, you 375 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we pull up at the 376 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: radio station. The gate is open. God normally the gates club. 377 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: So we pull up. The gate is open. I knew 378 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: it was God. I knew he was all costrated. We 379 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: pulled up. As soon as we get in there, Calip 380 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: pull up five minutes later. I never forget it because 381 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I've seen the way that baby blue fanom pulled up 382 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: in the vibe. It was it was nasty, right, he 383 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: pulled up, he hopped out. Now keep in mind now 384 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: I think this is important too for like you know, 385 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: in general what the game is different. But back then, 386 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: like as an artist, you had to be prepared. So 387 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: I had a bio, I had a picture, I had 388 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: CD with my songs on it, everything in an envelope 389 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: and I ain't playing. So look at my instagram right, 390 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: just right right, you go to my Instagram like like 391 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it outside or like you know what 392 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Me and them like yo, boom whatever. But 393 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: so we the count of them, man, we're hanging out 394 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: and the callous like when you walked up on him. 395 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: He's not hesitant because yeah, people pull up right for 396 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: two weeks later, right or something? He called so he 397 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: hit he hit back that night, but I was skipping. Yeah, 398 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: you gotta give He gave him the CD. We gave 399 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: the CD right because I wanted them. Yeah, I wanted 400 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: to rap for him. I couldn't wrap for him. He 401 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: had this radio station. He had to be that six fifteen, 402 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: six thirty, right, you gotta be doing this thing. So 403 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't hear back or hear anything until 404 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: like the following day, you know, like he hit my 405 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: manager back. That same night, I was having a conversation 406 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: with him and was like yo boo boom boom. I 407 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: like what I heard. I hear the hunger, like I 408 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: want to work with this guy. And from there two 409 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: weeks later when we had the prior meeting to actually 410 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: signing and you know and figuring out what we want 411 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: to do. When he sent you, I'm so was he 412 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: paying on there was anybody on there or he just 413 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: seen you to beat pain was on the Yeah, he 414 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: sent me, so he sent me to you know, bro, 415 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: that's it's it's crazy when I think about it, because 416 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: just in my mind of hearing that song, right, being 417 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: in Club Boker with the homies, not even knowing Cali 418 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: and not even knowing nothing, right, you know about that 419 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: club Boker, So like were enough vibing with the homies 420 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: and like, definitely true, let's go crazy. So in my mind, 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: we're catching the vibe. And so for him to send 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: me a record that got t paining hooked but a 423 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: free verse and then this hook come back, I felt 424 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: like I was like, man, that's like, this is no, 425 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: this is not a normal opportunity. Keep paying on the 426 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: hook and it ain't like orchestrated to put this together. 427 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: I took a little piece of ripping when I said that. 428 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: I just felt like I gotta, I gotta, you know, 429 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: I gotta come with it. I wrote like five six verses, bro, 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I went to the studio at the same time show 431 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: and uh. And from there, man, once I you know, 432 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: knocked the verses and I recorded the verses that slipping slide. 433 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: I think that's important. Yeah yeah, so Lucas and then 434 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: and then what have happened? Laid five verses or you 435 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: wrote five verses? I laid five verses and I wrote 436 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: five verse and I just took the best too, and 437 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I sent him that you know what I'm saying, so 438 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: he can what was that moment? And in sending that, 439 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: man he called me right back and which is like, bro, 440 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: like I love it. I love it. He said, Man, 441 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I hear that dog, I hear that hunger, and like, 442 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: let's do something. We're gonna have him meeting Boom boom. 443 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: He had the office across the street from the radio station. 444 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: We linked up at that spot the next time and 445 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: we were sitting down talking about having the deal man 446 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: and him wanting to sign me. Like my guy at 447 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: that particular time wanted it to be about dollars and deals. 448 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: We wanted to get like he wanted to get a 449 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: label situation. But at that time he was only interested 450 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: in signing me. So um so yeah man. So that 451 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: from there it was it was history. Broa yeah, straight up, 452 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: I got notes. You know I'm in this. I'm yeah down, okay, okay, okay, 453 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: let me okay okay. We had a lot of I 454 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: don't want to wrong okay, so boom to get with 455 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: college hustle Hall doesn't come out yet, right what you 456 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: cash roll comes out? First? Cash roll comes out? Yet 457 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: this first time flying to New York. I flew to 458 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: New York once we ended up figuring out the deal. 459 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: My first time I were going to New York. Who 460 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: flew to New York to go see l a read 461 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: and he was with Deaf Jam at that time. So 462 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: at this time I had cash flow. I had the 463 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: stressing record that I recorded with applies. Did he have chapstick? 464 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Feel like he was put on chapstick. I just feel 465 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: like he was. He wasn't about man. Every time I've 466 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: seen him putting on the chapter what are you doing man? 467 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: He put he got the other ship, the lip bomb. 468 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Come on, you got to stop, you gotta last. He said, 469 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: He's a genious. He's a genious to be signed you, 470 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that means you hill. So yeah, fly to New York. 471 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Are you nervous because because because you know this is 472 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: a possibility, he can fly, he can introduce you, you know, 473 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: because right now they can look at your looking on 474 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Instagram and say, oh, I like the way you look. 475 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: But this is if you're going to New York. This 476 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: is to look at how you look in your face, 477 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: to see how you perform to see So are you 478 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: are you nervous or do you even do you even 479 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: know this process is happening? The pep talk before you 480 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: get there. I'm beyond nervous, first of all, because I'm 481 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm flying. It's my first time ever flying, 482 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: It's my first time everything. It wasn't it was the 483 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: first time for everything, first time flying, first time being 484 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: in New York, first time. You know, we had missed 485 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: the child at that time, first time having missed the 486 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: child in the office. Bro, I'm so nervous, bro. But 487 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: the PEPs hall right, this was like this is the 488 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: Illis ship about Kalid? Right? Is that his level of 489 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: like the way he's able to motivate you or this 490 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: l a read we gotta go this how they read 491 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta sell this, like make him feel 492 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: like yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo 493 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: yo yo yo. You can't play like it's a chance 494 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: to like it's not a game, like we gotta do 495 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: I can seek up. It's like what I'm saying, Like 496 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: it's like like that's that's that's the energy. So for me, 497 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: that's all I need to hear him. You with me, 498 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: you affirm me, We in it's together. Let's do this, 499 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, so for me, as 500 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: soon as I get in up with l A read 501 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: like you know I come from like I come from 502 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: the hood. I come from did feel like down the street, 503 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the projects. We gotta home me So I need this. 504 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: I ain't even to play with this opportunity for me. 505 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: So I spill it all. I give it all. I 506 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: mean they get emotion on everything they're giving him. That 507 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: stress in Verse repplies on it. I mean nothing going 508 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: hard with that cash floor. You're gonna feel me, you 509 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: feel me like and he felt that, you know for 510 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: for then, Man, we were signing the deal, I stepped 511 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: at the room. We was inking the deal, big MR's 512 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: what I'm asking, what's that moment like when you step 513 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: out the room, because I get the gotta be a 514 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: moment when they're talking to were you not there? Yeah? 515 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Is what it is? What's going through your mind at 516 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: this time? The moment after I left the room, I 517 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: felt fulfilled and I felt like I did that. I 518 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: left it there, but like you got yeah yeah, or 519 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: even if I didn't like I left it, you know 520 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like I did my part, You 521 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's how I feel about it. 522 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: It's like, as long as I show up and I 523 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: do what I'm supposed to do. However you choose the 524 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: whatever decision you made, I'm a right with it. Goddamn 525 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: you did what I'm saying, my brother salute brothers? Was 526 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: the moment in the music industry when you realized this 527 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: ain't all the track? Oh yeah? What was that moment 528 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: like for you when it hit the realization? And I 529 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: hit that realization, bro, it was was it was? It 530 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: was scary, you know, because I think once I got 531 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: to that realization that you know, I came into the 532 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: game as a as a you know, young buck. I 533 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: was eighteen nineteen years old, knowing that I didn't acquire 534 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: much about the business, knowing that I didn't ask to 535 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: really see certain things, knowing that I was um, I 536 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: didn't have it on any insight about what budgeting was 537 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: for me, Knowing that I didn't have you know, I 538 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: was just the workhorse. I didn't, you know what I'm saying. 539 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: I think that was the thing because I didn't. Once 540 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: I started to put it together, I started to understand 541 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: of like, man, I could be I could be tangled 542 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: into something that I have no idea how to get 543 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: myself out of you know what I'm saying, like, because 544 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: as you started to get older, right, you started to mature, 545 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: and when you're young, you want the money. You know 546 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. For me, it's like, cool, I want 547 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: to be able to supply you know, you know, like 548 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: provide for my mother because my mother was struggling. You 549 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like nobody around her couldn't really 550 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: do anything. So it was like for me, I felt 551 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: like I needed to be the man that step up. 552 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: So in my mind, this money is gonna help. You know, 553 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: when you're young, this money is gonna help provide for 554 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: my family. So you ain't thinking about what that contract 555 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: of what business will look like later on until you 556 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: get older and then started asking questions, right, So I 557 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: think that's when I started to see that, uh you know. 558 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: And then even with politics, I never really liked the 559 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: politics ship in music, you know what I'm saying, um 560 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: in the beginning, But once I learned it, I understood 561 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: it and I respected. But you know when people when 562 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: we say we're brothers and we do certain things, I 563 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: took that to heart because the industry, it's just what 564 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: I started to learn like, oh, when it comes from real, 565 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: come to certain right, one is not bullshit. Everybody ain't real, 566 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: that's what and that's what. And when I let that 567 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: was the toughest part because I'm like, damn, but I 568 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: thought this person not speaking to the people that I 569 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: was close. Just tell you, my brother, but when I send, 570 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: you won't try me. I'm like, damn, but I thought 571 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: we were Okay, I get it, but I and I 572 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: know at that point. But you know, if I would 573 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: have knew in advance, like I could have, I would 574 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: have knew it would expect I could have managed my expectations. Um, 575 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: but that ain't happen. So it's just seeing a little 576 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: shit like that. I'm just like and just ideas that 577 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: people will have, you know what I mean, It could 578 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: just kind of just turn me. Well, I'm just like, 579 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this ain't real logical. This ain't even like I'm like, 580 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: what Nick is doing in this ship, Like you ain't 581 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: trying to become better people? Why we gotta like, am 582 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I just trapped in being this one person? And I 583 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: gotta beat this person my entire career, That's what I'm saying. 584 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't evolve and grow up and be no. No, 585 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: that's why I went artists a lot of times. I mean, 586 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: you gotta tell you the truth. You got it better 587 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: than a lot of people who called the road deal 588 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: or anything or you know, I have to leave every 589 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: established label because they wanted to go on their own. 590 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people what they would do is they'll 591 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: become this artist and they'll be and an artist. If 592 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: you complain about your rights and you're an artist, you're problematic, right, 593 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: that's sucked up, that's fucked up, that's funked up. That 594 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: like you know what, I'm glad you put me on. 595 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you put me into place. I'm glad 596 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: that this label helped me out. But look this parting, right, 597 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: can we just correct that? Most people will say, no, 598 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: are you a millionaire? Can you pull up in the 599 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: range of what can you put up in the mayback? 600 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Can you put up in such? Why do you why 601 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: you need to correct something that you're already good at? 602 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: And it's like, because I don't want to be perfect, 603 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: but I want my ship to be right. But if 604 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: you do that, then you're you're known as a problematic artist. 605 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Like as you were leaving the are we the best? 606 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: That was you receiving those type of things like what 607 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: people spreading rooms like jay One's or something telling people 608 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: don't with the hood. You know these people? And I 609 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: wasn't leaving. What did you were? Sorry? Where that was 610 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: the beginning? Well, he was a def jam happened in 611 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: the beginning. At some point we moved from def jam. 612 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Def jam was only my first two projects and then 613 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: we have to cash projects. Those projects got finished with them. 614 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Because at one point, I'm stoping, You're going right back 615 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: to this. Remember that question. Remember what the question was? 616 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: What was it? Remember? Please? Because I felt like you 617 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: were the face of the weed the best death jam, 618 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: things like did you feel like you want to face 619 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: at that time? Yes? Okay, yes, alright, I did feel 620 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: like that. I always felt like that, right, yeah, okay, 621 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to that. What was the other 622 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Guess what was I saying? You know what you were saying? Yea? 623 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: And he was he was saying he fulfilled the death 624 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: jam projects? And when was it that the breakup happens? 625 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: At what point in the business dealings you have another 626 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: is it cash money? At that point we were under 627 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: cash money contract with two people so this is how 628 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: it happened. So originally I started with death Jam, and 629 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: then after Death Jam with the first two albums, I 630 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: ended up moving. Um, we ended up going to Universal, 631 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: which was cash Money, right, cash Money, who got in 632 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: all that other stuff? Right? Um? Then Issue started to 633 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: stir up Cash Money Universal. You remember that when they 634 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: had the issues and just things would just happen when 635 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: you called it, right, I'm calling the melee We always 636 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, even with the label. So it's like you know, 637 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: people trying to just keep you know, keep what they 638 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: can keep type of things. So you know, Brot wanted 639 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: to make his own decision to kind of do his 640 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: own thing, like you know, he wanted to be his 641 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: own independent field. So he wanted to kind of separate. Yeah, 642 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Keli wanted to separate from the Universal Music and kind 643 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: of do something different. You know what I'm saying. He 644 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be more independent. Okay, is that leaving you 645 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: guys are the label all the artists left behind by 646 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: doing that, Well, he wanted to branch off. So yes, 647 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: it would be like you know, handling this business in 648 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: this way and then taking that you know, your imprint 649 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: and making it independent. And then we were under red 650 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Sony Red distribution Sony read is when the issue started 651 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: to start stop because I think, like you said, there 652 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: was a certain level I was invested in the way 653 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: the US right. I felt like me and Brod created 654 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: that together. If you were not brand on sleeve, if 655 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: you thought about we the best, you thought about you 656 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: thought about Ace, you thought about calin facts, it wasn't 657 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: one without the other. It's just what it was. You 658 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: feel me. Um So, I felt like it was like 659 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: damon j at one point. That's how I felt, And 660 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I thought that we were just man, 661 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So for me, I had right. 662 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that the decision was made 663 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: without me. I didn't like that the fact that the 664 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: decision was made to part ways from our distribution and 665 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: may not know about it, and you decide solely to 666 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: say we're gonna take this one imprint and go over 667 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: here him and do this granted rightfully, rightfully distribution? Was 668 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you um mad that you was leaving Universal just because 669 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: we were at we were we were with Universal going 670 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: from Universal to something that's more independent, which you know, 671 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: which was then D. Yeah, it was just the principle 672 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: for me was the fact that I felt like were 673 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: sated this thing together that now we should make all 674 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: the decisions. But this was a decision that I felt 675 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: like I thought we were brothers enough that you would 676 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: come to me about this decision type of thing in 677 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: some way, you know what I mean. And maybe he 678 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: feels wrong that or don't feel the same way that 679 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: that I could even be in a position to say that, 680 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: But I felt like we built this. I contribute out 681 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I wrapped that ships on 682 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: my skin. I didn't you know what I mean, I 683 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: was out here. People knew that. So for me, the 684 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: decision to take it from one thing to another was 685 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: an issue for me, you know, because then I started 686 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: to understand that my it's not about my decision, you know, 687 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: and you I'm sorry to cut you off that no, 688 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: Like he didn't even call you and say listen, no, no, no, no. 689 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: So this so once he made a decision, it was 690 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: like final with Sony read and it was happening like 691 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: that's when the conversation actually happened, you know what I'm 692 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: saying with us, And I felt blown away because I 693 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: felt like I wasn't prepared for it. There's ideas and 694 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: there's things that I wanted to do that I felt 695 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: like I needed a major, a major backing to do so, 696 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: you know, And I just think like the decision even 697 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: though for him, yes, it's your brand at the take 698 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: it like he maybe he felt like, well, it's my brand. 699 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't I created it, right, But I feel on 700 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: your in it's like it's impacting your career because only 701 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: because only because the moment this imprint started, which means 702 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: that the moment you knew about it, the hood was 703 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: signed to it and it don't and it existed at 704 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: the point I think you felt like it was created 705 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: around you, not around me. No, I don't feel like 706 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: it was created. I feel like I was the first 707 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: representation of that brand of what I'll tell you the 708 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: misunderstanding right there, right Like when you sign an artist, 709 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: it's like signed, it's like signing the baby, right, and 710 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: it's your baby, that's what they say, that's my baby, 711 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: like sometimes right, but as the artist grows, sometimes you 712 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: still give the artist information, you still give them perish, 713 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: but you're not realizing that artists got teeth now and 714 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: the artists actually want doesn't want purists. No More doesn't 715 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: want baby fool and it deserves to say, you know 716 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: what you got be eating chicken? Now, all right, that's cool, 717 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: but why are we eating chicken? Okay? And why do 718 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: you want to change? Why? And that's and that's just 719 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 1: what it is. I understand his position because it's his comform, 720 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: and as I understand that you you wasn't eating partridge 721 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: no More, right, it was your m at least no, 722 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I get where your 723 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: coming myself too, Like I'm an artist, and that really 724 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: goes with what you're saying. You were the flagship right right, 725 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: And and I'm not saying that I wanted to know 726 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: all the ins and outs of his business or anything. 727 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: I just think just think that anything that affects me 728 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: I should be in part. I should be, you know, 729 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: within that conversation. You know what I'm saying. I just 730 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: think that's right, and I think that's fair, not even 731 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: about being right, I just think that's fair. You know 732 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you're gonna decide to take that, 733 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: and yo, so I'm just decided to. I'm just sign 734 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: to take I know we were with blog, but we're 735 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: gonna move over. And you know what I'm saying, That 736 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: way we're in it together, right, and that way it 737 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like I'm excluded in that. You can, you 738 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: solely can make these decisions. Now, who in ald mind? 739 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: What does that say about me? If you can just 740 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: decide anytime you want to take this thing and do 741 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: what you want with it. And that was that I'm 742 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: supposed to follow behind and do what you want with 743 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: it too. But one man percent, when you're on Miami Heat, 744 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: you get traded to the next tomorrow, right, and you 745 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: won't have no motherfucker decision on that. Maybe that's really 746 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you just wanted the 747 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: courtesy is what he wanted, the curt But I just 748 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: don't want to try to say it. Sometimes you don't 749 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: get that courtesy, Like what now official, it's like this, 750 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: you play for the Raptors, You're like only movie. The 751 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: check is still there's But that's what he's likely looking at. 752 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: I'm just being deaf. Was out of right? Look like yo, 753 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: check is still gonna be there. Everything in either way 754 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: how I am and how one built, I respect the decision, 755 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: the decision either way either way I respected it. At 756 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I understand that it's about 757 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: it's your thing, it's what you want to do with it. 758 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: I just wanted that, and they're like, I'm gonna hate you. 759 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to have that input of just but 760 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: since I didn't get it's still cool, there's nothing whatever. 761 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: But it's just raised a question in my mind of 762 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: like what maybe you should kind of like start focusing 763 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: on the things that you would really want to like 764 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: and the things that you really want to create and 765 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: really want to bring forth right, because if someone else 766 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: is doing it, like you know, we all want to 767 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: do it. We all want to create and bring a 768 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: certain level of energy and inspiration and motivation into the world, 769 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: into the minds and the hearts of people, you know 770 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, of course, so it raised that 771 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: opportunity in my mind of like, okay, like you know, 772 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: and I respect that because you know, I'm always if 773 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I laid my bed, I'm gonna laying it peacefully. You know. 774 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: If I made that bad, I ain't tripping, you know 775 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's just being a real one. 776 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm bouncing around because I'm coming back to 777 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: the I love, yeah, but how much pictures you cash? 778 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: Just like y'all was like like, I'm sorry, back to 779 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: these sessions was crazy. I'm sure you usually speak about 780 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: any thing in the building like come on, how like 781 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: how crazy was it? Like you know what your groupie days? 782 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: My my my groupie days was? It was? It was exciting, 783 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: It was exciting. It was very last for you to 784 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It was exciting after now that 785 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: we're not groupies no more because if we're groopy too, 786 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're not only massive boobies. It was a 787 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: lot of us act like oh you know, you know 788 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: I was young, Like no, that was ye, Like it's 789 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: exciting and fun, okay, because I respect that. Goddamn it. 790 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Like the days them ship, it was amazing. It was amazing, bro. 791 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: I love every minute of it because you know, as 792 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: lessons and all of that, you didn't know what I'm saying. 793 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I had the studio with your shirt 794 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: off kids. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have them all in 795 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: the studio. We're gonna pack them and we're gonna vibe, 796 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: you know under staying Like the thing about me, I've 797 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: always been a man of respect, I've always treated women 798 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: with the utmost respect. That's how I moved and the people, 799 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's just period, you 800 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So even before this, like you know, 801 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I was never on the wow wow wildness, but I 802 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: was the type of person that I like what I like, 803 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: which means that if I have, like some women that 804 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm involved with or whatever, it's like a few pieces 805 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: that's outstanding, and we take trips and we do flash 806 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: it and then like you know what I'm saying, and 807 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: I rocked with that. I'm the time. I can rock 808 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: with that for a year, two years, like you know 809 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's just my little thing, you know, 810 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: mean my little shorty or whatever. And then I got 811 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: my other little shorty like type of thing, so that 812 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: was like my field. I got beautiful pieces. That's how 813 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: I am. Detail beautiful pieces. And we're gonna look like 814 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: that Molly involved. You don't ain't dumb money. I ain't 815 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: never do money. This is some ship I heard. I 816 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: heard about the Molly conversation and all that. But right 817 00:40:53,600 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: now we're looking forward. Me too, you know, I don't 818 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: even to that later that you've never nothing. Just this 819 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: week some pills, uh did some some pergoset before I 820 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: did some uh some adderall um to study right right 821 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: right right do for black people, you know, just super focus, 822 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: super what I'm saying. Like and it's just like so 823 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: say you know you don't have a long day or 824 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: something like that. You know what I'm saying that, like 825 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: you might want to go catch your vibe somewhere. You 826 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: might want to do somewhere, you might want to be 827 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: involved in something. You know what I mean. I feel 828 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: like you have you go, you go half of a 829 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: thirty and know you know you smoke, you want sip 830 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: you a little popular little shot like it's at and 831 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: you're like, man, what's hanning what we're doing? Like like 832 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 1: you can see ship kinda yea, kinda come right, let's 833 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: just swell. I'm good that really I've never had that. 834 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: And I would just say about the drug thing, just 835 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: don't abuse it. The moment you abuse it abuses you, period. 836 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: That's what I believe in. Like you know what I'm saying, 837 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: don't do nothing, just don't abuse it, period it because 838 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: you would do you like a holistic nigger right now, 839 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: like you should be meditated and all that ship like 840 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: Buddhist type ship, real ship. That's hard. But I feel 841 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: like you've always been into that. I feel like you've 842 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: always been like a spiritual person. Like I feel like 843 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing new, Like I feel like, you know what 844 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you have to say when you were seventeen. 845 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: But I grew up in a church, you know what 846 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying. My mom brought me up in the church, 847 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: so we were Christianity and all of that. I was 848 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: always I'm always a man of faith, you know what 849 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so I've always leaned on my faith 850 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: in any time things get uncertain for me. That has 851 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: always brought me clarity. So um, I trusted that and 852 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: from that in terms of from that Christianity that inspired 853 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: him to like my spirituality and you know that ties 854 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: and also with my wife and my lifestyle and stuff. 855 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: So and just like my fitness, my health ship too. 856 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: Just exploring all of that is what really took me there. 857 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: So there's never been a time where your faith wasn't there. 858 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: I'm talking about No, I'm not talking about life. It's 859 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: about the music business. Because a lot of people don't 860 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: understand how hard it is in this music business. This 861 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: is this is like, you know, this is hard, you 862 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Ever, like like it was like, man, 863 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: this is it for me? Yeah? Yeah, bro, Yeah, I 864 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: think like I felt like that after my second album, 865 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: like Ship got real for me at that time. You 866 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I felt like, man, like I 867 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: don't know because I was still new to the game 868 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: before all of that. You know what I'm saying. That 869 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: was I was really me just like I'm really trying 870 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: to figure it out and taking care of my family 871 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: living in the condo space, man, trying to pay my 872 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: bills and Ship and I you know, and at that point, 873 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: like call on the road and they're doing their thing, 874 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like you gotta make it hit. 875 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: You gotta do something that, you know, impress me. You 876 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was that type of energy. 877 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: So I just didn't know whether or not I could. 878 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying because I think you took I think you 879 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: described the hustle hard. Now, I think this is where 880 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: we're going, right, So you're saying that at that time 881 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: that's fully inspired that record was because that was a 882 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: low point in your life into that yeah, anyone is 883 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: just that. H I feel like it wasn't just that 884 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: time neither to you know what I'm saying. Like, it 885 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: was also even I feel like the time of uh 886 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: separating two, you know what I'm saying, of trying to 887 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: think to myself of like, you know, what would it 888 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: look like being independent? You know, and if I could 889 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: really rise to the occasion of being an independent artist, 890 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was definitely times 891 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: that will pop in the moments that I would be like, damn, bro, 892 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: like you know, because it's difficult, you know what I'm saying. So, 893 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: but yes, to go to to to jump back, like, yeah, 894 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: that was the hustle hard time. Let me just tell 895 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 1: you something. I looked at YouTube comments hw SO hard video. 896 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: They blamed at least three d artists. I'm still in 897 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: your flow, M Like I'm talking about it's even UK 898 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: dudes on there saying, man, everyone in the Americans like 899 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: Ace Foot, I'm like, Tip Westwood every round, let me 900 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: rude about it from Thunder Shutout. Yeah, I'm sorry it 901 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: was terrible, but like I really looked at that and 902 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: it brought me to a Tim Westwood interview with you, 903 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: and it just kept going, people saying how so hard 904 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: Like for lack of a better phrase right now, lack 905 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: of a better term, is like the Megos flow, like 906 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: how everyone sounds like the Megos and everyone. I didn't 907 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: realize that that's what everyone was saying about you with 908 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: hustle off. I didn't realize that. I'm sure you've noticed 909 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: that because I've seen the interviews like, yeah, they're all 910 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: but my ship. That's the that's the honest truth, brom, 911 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: and honest you know that. It's it's flattering to be honest. 912 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh, But I think I 913 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: was so in my zone at that time that I 914 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 1: didn't always fully realize. But people from the outside would 915 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: always come up to me, Yo, bro, this bro, this 916 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: person sound like you. Why they doing that at jump 917 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: flowing that like that's your flow. But if we're being honest, bro, 918 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: first of all, nothing new around the sun, but nothing 919 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: new on this earth what I'm saying, So it's like 920 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: we all inspired by somebody you know. So, Uh, I 921 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: never took ownership of a float, but but did I 922 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: hear um? Did I inspire a generation? For sure? For sure? 923 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like with that flow and 924 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: then with that cadence on hustle hard. But I knew 925 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: I did because I knew before and this is this 926 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: is no lie. When I went before I even wrote 927 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: the record, bro, I told myself when I heard just 928 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: the instrumental, I said, if I can, if I can 929 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: create a flow that's different on here, it's gonna change 930 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: the game. I swear the guy and I in the studio, 931 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: and I had that. I went in the booth with 932 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: that intention to change the game, not meaning that the 933 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: game is gonna change. Copying you, you didn't know that far. 934 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that the flow was new 935 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: to to what was out because I would always I 936 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: was always that type of artist. I always wanted to 937 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: recreate myself, which is why every time you would hear 938 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: a new ace Hood record, you would always be like 939 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: this again, back how that verse go, that's how that's that? 940 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: Uh same it's different verse, the same most ship, just 941 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: a different day. I hit trying to get it, and 942 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: my daughter had just got so all of this is real. Hustle, hustle, 943 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: hustle outside August. Uh you got that. That's years ago. 944 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: When I'm saying you can't cars man. Come on, man, 945 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: oh man, that flow though we were pulling up, pull 946 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: it up as come on, surprised me blowing up already 947 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: to I ain't gonna last night before we did we 948 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: rocket pistol off from my pocket and get the shock. 949 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: Its ain't got time to be shopping, like to say. 950 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, uh yeah, connected to the 951 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: reut tooth things. But you take that at the time 952 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: that we're gonna we're gonna pay it. We're gonna pay 953 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: you that jam to use this magic. God, Yeah, that's it, 954 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: really okay Cooke bro oh different day, feed h I 955 00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: got my mocket. Even at that hearing that rope over 956 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: up on my low Joe. He's whipping that lowco Who 957 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: the gover? That loco? How better fucking I know? So 958 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: I think it ain't no doubt about it running around 959 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: with that rocket y'all ol blue him who you know? 960 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: Three meets. I got folks be jumping that time all 961 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: about it. That life. Don't stop the party and JA 962 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: like say you did. Day, Oh my god, I can 963 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: see anybody pitt your ship. Perspect that yo, that is 964 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: that you know listening to it now? I listen to 965 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: it in the way it still sounds great. But it 966 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: still sounds great by the way that's me, but it 967 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,959 Speaker 1: sounds it almost makes you seem like the normal guy. 968 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: Like it anymost makes you seem like you brillanted in 969 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: like if I didn't look at the comments and go 970 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 1: through the research and all that, like that's probably something 971 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: that would would try to erase you in history. And 972 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: this is actually this is the first. Yes, this is crazy, 973 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Yeah. Some somebody even argue that the 974 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: whole like, I mean, you know, that's that's tedious. I 975 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: know you hustle bad, but let's take you into the shot. 976 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: Let's get up feeling that I claiming another shot that 977 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: the case be Blame it on the alcohol. Man, don't 978 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: worry about you gotta record about it. You got drunk 979 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: about don't work about drunk fat, I don't worry about it. No, no, 980 00:50:52,680 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: oh COVID Mama, I don't suggest to go. Yeah it 981 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, yeah, COVID. You know it comes from change. Okay, 982 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: hold on, shot, someone, come on, God damn, we're gonna 983 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: make you claim you'll flow today. I'll drop a show 984 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: like somebody felt pretty hard. I apologize you've got no assurance. 985 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so I know you said you flattered, 986 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: but ween, and you don't have to name the artist, 987 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, I came up with yea, my blow, I've 988 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: seen the y'all was taking the y'all right, right, yaking, 989 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: When was the first time you don't have to name 990 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: the artist if you don't want to, if you if 991 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: you want to to take a shout to his name 992 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: too or whatever. But it was the first time he 993 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: was like, y'all, wow, like I'm making an impact like 994 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: off of that flow along, like you're hearing like somebody 995 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: that you like, and how quickly after you know what, 996 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm a real nigger. So I think that it's only 997 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: to keep it honest because it was only us, really 998 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 1: us two at that time, like really the me and 999 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: meek situation, that's what everybody what I'm saying, just to 1000 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: be honest, I just to address it and face that 1001 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: like it was a lot of people were saying that 1002 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: in comparison because of the flow that Meet went off 1003 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: and use you know what I'm saying, like, so, so 1004 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: that's what people was always trying to round it too. 1005 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: But Meet, my man, I got nothing but loved meeting right, 1006 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: and I was flattered in only that, like you know 1007 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: that that's that's I don't know. I just like the 1008 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: idea of just contributing. You know what I'm saying this 1009 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: hip hop right, I haven't seen a lot of amazing 1010 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: ship bro like you know, I mean, like to be 1011 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 1: a part of it, to be in it, Bro, and 1012 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: just to contribute something, Uh that ship matters. That's puteful, man. 1013 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, because that was 1014 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: the one name that kept coming up in the comments 1015 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: like meet me, and I never addressed that in the past, 1016 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think I tiptoed around that, 1017 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, for for whatever reasons, um, 1018 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: But I guess because I had love for Bro and 1019 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, I just didn't never 1020 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: want to take exactly like and still got so much 1021 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: love for bro um and yeah, it's just I just 1022 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: ain't never want nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that 1023 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: will ever come between us, and no ships like you 1024 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,959 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I see how people play games 1025 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: like that and try to would adoption and create issues 1026 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: and said that he could have took it personal exactly exactly. 1027 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what me always you know, that's 1028 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: what I love about me. Me in the beginning, was 1029 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: always a fan of me, would always pick me up. 1030 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, and that's the thing 1031 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: that I always appreciate about bron Didn't you always show 1032 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 1: a love. I'm gonna tell you a friend a problem 1033 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: that's your self perform And I'm not a psychiatrist, but 1034 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: my man for l sat in the same chair as 1035 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 1: you right like a couple of weeks ago right now 1036 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: last week said the same chair as you and y'all 1037 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: stuff too much humbleness. M hmm. I believe that in 1038 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: some cases it's too much humility, and it's like bust. 1039 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: The Ryans told me this a long time ago, But 1040 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: what the funk you so humble for him? Like, because 1041 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: that's why I am. And he's like, yeah, but it's 1042 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: at times when it's not time to be humble, you're 1043 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: still there. And I never knew what he talked about. 1044 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's I feel like, for for 1045 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: real suffering from me, for I couldn't even answer quick 1046 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: time or slides. But this is this is a segment 1047 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: where well just give you two answers he just give 1048 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: both both because he's trying to be too politically direct. 1049 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't be to be too politically correct because 1050 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: if you're being too politically right, you say that all 1051 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: lives matter, and we know that all lives matter, but 1052 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: for right now, black lives motherfucking matter. So this is 1053 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: the reason why you know what I say, you can't. 1054 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You just can't be So, 1055 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's real, real ship to you know what 1056 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I would like I would like you to 1057 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: know that because like when I look like, they're like, 1058 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: you're the one of the most underrated, underappreciated, don't mcs 1059 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: like that's what I'm looking at. It's my jaw, you 1060 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And there's people that love you, 1061 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: like there's a lyricist people, and you gotta claim them back. Bro, 1062 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: you gotta let the ball focus. Know. I'm out here, man, 1063 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm out here. I'm alright, 1064 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,919 Speaker 1: because it's not It's not like I went and watch 1065 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: your interviews and I look and there's not one person 1066 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: that can say ace Hood is not a doping See. 1067 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: I searched for it. I looked for them, you know 1068 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. So you think that you was ever 1069 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: h a success from your own success, What I mean 1070 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: is like you're almost battling yourself. You gotta single that 1071 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: went platinum, right Like, there's nothing you can go back 1072 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: in the major right now, there's nothing that the impact 1073 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: that Bugatti had. And at the time that was like 1074 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: like if we were talking about Tea paying earlier and 1075 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: God blessed, because I don't want te paying to take 1076 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: this in any way shape for my fashion. But future, 1077 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: when future got lit, he could have said, pick up 1078 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: thinking that I was thinking that, I was thinking that, 1079 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking I was thinking that, thinking I was 1080 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: thinking us and that the ship. After a while he 1081 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: was just and like but nobody could give him he 1082 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: was And when that ship no God, I mean, moly 1083 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: moly mo Like what was that feeling like? Man? That 1084 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: ship was like, uh, it was like surreal, bro. First 1085 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: of all, she should did that ship in like fifteen minutes. 1086 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: I want the studio toge. And you know, Kalid master motivator, 1087 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he in there speech, 1088 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: he gave a speech. He gave you. The speech is over. 1089 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: Don't matter who you are. He gave you the speech 1090 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: like you're gonna you see to get in that bad 1091 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: And I love that because like that that made me 1092 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: stick to always a standard of just you gotta be 1093 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: if not rewriting. You know what I'm saying that I 1094 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: know what that moment you heard the beat, you had 1095 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: your rhys already or no, no, no, I didn't have 1096 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: my rhymes already. So I walk in. It's just before 1097 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: I didn't Mike Will. Mike Will made it. So you 1098 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: walk into the here and to beat for the first time. 1099 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: I walk into here and to beat for the first time. 1100 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm at the studio, pull up, yo, and I know 1101 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: them calls Yo, I'm at the studio where you were 1102 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, just no movie. I 1103 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: beat that in a minute. Yeah you got super and 1104 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: yeah I got Okay, I beat it. I didn't he 1105 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: was I didn't know he was there. Cool. Yeah I 1106 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: met future before, so me and future so boom walk 1107 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: in the studio Future when we chop it up? Manki 1108 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: that we chop it up? So he and there he 1109 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: don't even play the music yet. And then he gave 1110 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: me the speech of all speeches, like, Yo, it's gonna 1111 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: be the biggest record ever. This ship is gonna be 1112 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: number one. This ship is gonna be They don't got 1113 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: no lyrics on it, no lyrics. I think that it 1114 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: is powerful in terms of manifestation. That's why I like, 1115 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: you feel meal that shouldn't get you goose bump. I 1116 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: know it. Nothing's happy yet, I know it. You feel me. 1117 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'm just like, all right, play 1118 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: the b A should come on. I'm just like, oh, 1119 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: this ship it is that. I already knew what I 1120 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: was going Ill. Norm will come on there and I'm 1121 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna deliver. He give me the tall Like, yo, this 1122 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: gotta be. You gotta write that, you gotta talk that 1123 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: and your future. I need that. I need nothing but 1124 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: that legend there. I need that anthem. I need that big. 1125 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 1: I need that movie. I need that. I need that 1126 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: number one. I need that. That's what we're gonna feel 1127 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: me A lot of people who know this is hip 1128 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: hop dudes and baseball players. We do that. That's that's 1129 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: out of the part. Maybe that's to the audience. That's 1130 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: that's to the audience, you know what I mean? Like 1131 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: that go ahead, boom so after that like future that 1132 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: he you know he played a beat, running back played again, 1133 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: Boom played again. He said, all ready, Bro, walk in 1134 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: the booth and he's just tampering with the ship. Bro. 1135 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: Eight seconds of that bitch, come on, come looking for 1136 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: you with Hey. I couldn't look at hold on, hold 1137 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: on back and then he did it again. He was 1138 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: like and then guy was like, Yo, stopped. It's like, Yo, 1139 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: that's it, that's it, Yo. Keep that right there, don't 1140 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: stop like you know. So we moved forward. Boom okay cool. 1141 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: So future in there he's doing the ship alright, I 1142 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: got you. He did that ship, Bro, and it was 1143 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: like perfect, it was perfect, Bro. He did it, man, 1144 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:15,919 Speaker 1: I know, and that ship Bro. And it was after 1145 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: that it was just like say lest you don't need 1146 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: to say nothing. And Bro just came out literally about 1147 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and I was like, yeah that yeah, that 1148 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: ship that's gonna go. I'm gonna keep it real. I 1149 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: went to scot Story see mm hmm. Man. I never 1150 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: kne where the until your record. I don't just thought 1151 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: that was a cool. I thought it was an autie 1152 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: suped up Bro. We didn't think it all the way through. Bro, 1153 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think it. Bro. They kept telling me it's 1154 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: just two million ILLI know about Bugatti. When the Bugatti 1155 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: record hit, I went to everywhere I tried around the world. 1156 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Nobody knew, That's what I'm trying to say. Nobody knew 1157 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 1: around you in the same building. And I didn't really 1158 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: technically know that that was a two million dollar call. 1159 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, if I would have knew, 1160 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: we would have reached out the Bugatti or something on 1161 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: some real ship. Bro. People trying to say, you resout 1162 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: to Bugatti prior until you dropping the record, prior or 1163 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: thinking about today, and it was like yeah or something, 1164 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: because like so bro, people went out and bought more Bugatti's. 1165 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Once once people started to get familiar with the thing, 1166 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: you go out and buy more of them, and people 1167 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: start you started seeing them, right, oh, this person, that person, 1168 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Like everybody started, why do you think things just happened 1169 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: became and like, you know what I'm saying, that's another 1170 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: thing of like I'm just happy to be a part 1171 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: of the conversation, man, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1172 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: so what did you think? Like, because like when he's 1173 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: start with that, I lost my mind when he did 1174 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: that ship because he ain't expected because it was It 1175 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: was totally left from what the song was. He come in, 1176 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I come looking and feel your way. You're what I'm saying, like, 1177 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: that's it crazy and you're going to the let's go 1178 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: we have and the drink and I'm what drinking? I'm 1179 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: drinking in the shop. But you all like god, you 1180 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: cant telling you sorry? Out of nowhere? How run the 1181 01:02:39,080 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: boof Like I'm like, man, I'm gon want it. Let's 1182 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: be really curt a wrinkle. I won't call it a game. 1183 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: Both creek say what you want? You don't like I 1184 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking with your way, I say injun, come no, guy, 1185 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 1: come listen. I've never seen like I went to a 1186 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: club so belod one time. One time. It's just one 1187 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: time that might tell your type of characters smell. I 1188 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: was like you, he might tell you let you know 1189 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: with the guy. But when I go to one of 1190 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: my own means the guy guys he asked me for 1191 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: like on the bus, I said, no problem, they gave 1192 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: it to them day Z song. Come on, he'd be like, 1193 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: what's fifty grand to a nigg like me? Keep was 1194 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: he in this room? Kind of relax? What's you seeing like? 1195 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: People like that with the bo guys like like coming 1196 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: up to you like, oh yeah really but some of 1197 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: these guys really did have them. Yeah, some of them did. 1198 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah they did, Like a lot of them obviously didn't. 1199 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 1: But like, you know, man, I had ICs coming up 1200 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: to me. I have bot, I got boodle, dude, like 1201 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: I put just something I got that, you know what 1202 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So or just people who just you know 1203 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I love that record. It makes 1204 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: me feel so empowered, you know what I'm saying, Like 1205 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: and in the idea, So and I love that recommend 1206 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 1: because like I felt like my homies, I felt like 1207 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: it though my homie is gonna be proud of that 1208 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: ship too. I gonna looking for you. I'm like, that's 1209 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: because it's really like it, you know, it's really really 1210 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 1: like that. So I don't know, I just I just 1211 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: love that. Um forget what I was gonna say, and 1212 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: that should just hit crazy in the club. Yeah crazy yeah, 1213 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, the idea behind the Bugatti waking up in 1214 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 1: the Bugatti, you know what I'm saying, Like because I didn't, right, 1215 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, it was just whatever was 1216 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: that thing that you felt like you worked hard for 1217 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and to me, the Bugghatti represented that at that particular time. 1218 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: It's just that thing that I hope to have that hit, 1219 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: you know. It's like that gift that you know what 1220 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that just that was like that that 1221 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: staff in the ground for me, you know what I'm saying, 1222 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: And like it could be anything. That could be that 1223 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: new whip, with that new career, with that new job 1224 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: that you got. Like, so that's how that was my 1225 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: perspective and the idea behind waking up in the guy. 1226 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: It's like if I wake up in that new house 1227 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,919 Speaker 1: that I love that I bought, Like, I'm gonna feel 1228 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: that same way. Got legend Gary albums, but those two 1229 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: legend after those never gonna die, Like would be a 1230 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: barbecue in Grandmothers. I'm saying, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, I 1231 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: don't do those records going ever never ever, never, Brover. 1232 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 1: How does it feel to have like most people can't 1233 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: ever have one? What we're gonna ever have none? You know? 1234 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: And then they're considered legends, but you're going the club, 1235 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: their music will never play, Like, how does it feel 1236 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 1: to have one? Ship? They feel good? Bro that ship 1237 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: is it's a blessing man, it's a blessing, bro. Like, 1238 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to be able to have a voice 1239 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: of platform to like to speak to people down. So 1240 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: I just that ship is just beautiful. And we got 1241 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: more and it ain't just those. You know, we got 1242 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: top ten, top five records, you know what I mean. 1243 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: We got Chris Brown, what I'm saying, like, you know, 1244 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: we got we out chill with me and Wayne, you 1245 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, So it's, um, we just 1246 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: got a lot of great records. And I'm just that's 1247 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: why I'm trying to say, you're almost uh uh failure 1248 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,919 Speaker 1: to your own success because they which want other people 1249 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: won't compare and those because those two are so impactful. 1250 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: It's just like never, like where do you go from there? 1251 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I got superdut what what what? What? And I got Homeboy. 1252 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I can't I don't matter what I could do whatever. 1253 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna top though, Yeah, yeah, I don't give 1254 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: it for I can make a record right now fifty 1255 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,479 Speaker 1: times better than that. This fucking twenty fans from twenty 1256 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: years ago to say it ain't better than nothing, it 1257 01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: ain't better than you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, 1258 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: what you gotta do with that, like no, yes and no. Okay. 1259 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: So the thing about that which is very interesting is 1260 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 1: that I got records now as an independent artist that 1261 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: people react to bigger and Bugatti on my sets, you 1262 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,679 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that we're talking about huge crowds, 1263 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: you know. So I don't really believe in that notion, 1264 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you know. I think I think because people like to 1265 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: think just because it may not be on or they 1266 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: may not hear it on the radio or anything like that, 1267 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 1: that it might not be having steam or it might 1268 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: not be doing this thing I've been in my section 1269 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: in the world and in my world like creating real magic. 1270 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying through the streams, I'm grazing 1271 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: it through the through the streams, through the reactions, through 1272 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 1: the bookings, you know what I'm saying through uh, just 1273 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: the interest in terms of things that I'm involved in, 1274 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,679 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's because of these records that's that's 1275 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 1: really moving to people and stuff like that. You know. 1276 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, yeah, on one end of 1277 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the spectrum, it's like people can want, people do want 1278 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: like those old to people like because me, I've understood 1279 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: that I'm no longer who I used to be, and 1280 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that and I've made peace with that. 1281 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm becoming. I'm a man now, I'm 1282 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 1: not just you know what I mean, Like, I'm I'm 1283 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,759 Speaker 1: much more man. I'm a I'm a father, my husband, 1284 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, um, I understand that that's gonna 1285 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: be people that appreciate that that person you feel me like, 1286 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be and that's cool. But also like 1287 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna also be people that appreciate that new being 1288 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: and that new person. So that's what's happening now. Like 1289 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: you got some people that might want to hear those 1290 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 1: records and think like oh, but then there's records that 1291 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: I could perform like a wee ball that I gout 1292 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: or something like that, like he's a pout, Like records 1293 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: that I just put real ship on, you know, and 1294 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I performing and the ships do well. Let me ask 1295 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 1: you who's the Who's an artist that wanted to work 1296 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: with you? And yea high like you never you never 1297 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 1: story like when it was Highlight you said, get you 1298 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: know what somebody that he was like wow that I 1299 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: was surprised that I worked with or they wanted to 1300 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: work with you. Maybe maybe he didn't work with them 1301 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: highlight Wow almost m made. Oh this is just the arm. 1302 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:22,799 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I mean for me, from being honest, 1303 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 1: working with Wayne was crazy. Wasn't the one who said it? 1304 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: What might feel from telling me Jo, tell me what 1305 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of weed this is? Because this she gotta me 1306 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 1: highs Hell, I don't know what it is. Gas truck 1307 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: blowing it up. We might go backy in the bathroom. 1308 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 1: But Wayne, let's go to the bro. Wayne Bro, Wayne 1309 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 1: just the elliest nigger man. You just grew up, you know, 1310 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: inspired by Wayne Bro. You know, motivated a couple of 1311 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 1: records with the missed out like one. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1312 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: we gotta we out to join it. We got to 1313 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: hustle hard joining we gotta. I think we need like 1314 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: another record too, yeah yeah. But working with him, man, 1315 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 1: it was just like to me that had been like 1316 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: the biggest dream come true. Obviously growing up on him 1317 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,839 Speaker 1: and you know what we're from, Carter one was everything. 1318 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Carter one was like the 1319 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: narrative to my whole high school, my whole young young 1320 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: teenage days. You did so um to being are working 1321 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: with him, man, just just skating. He's skating and righting 1322 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: in his mind, you feel me? And uh right, he 1323 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: did that same right m hit factory. So we hit 1324 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: factory and he you know, he's skating back and forth 1325 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: and we just you know, had a little small conversation, 1326 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: told the idea of the record and what we wanted 1327 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: to do, but just watching him create. Man, I just 1328 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 1: was excited to be in his presence at that moment, 1329 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 1: at that time. What I'm saying, like, um, and to 1330 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: see like that I did that on my own, you 1331 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I was in the do load, 1332 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: like chilling all day with him, just watching but doing 1333 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 1: ship waiting on the record, alright cool when he didn't 1334 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,680 Speaker 1: finished it the night, so I'm I'm not gonna have 1335 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: to marrow cool. So you know I pulled back up 1336 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 1: the next day and I'm right there again. You feel 1337 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he really didn't and he was 1338 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 1: like on some like some big broth ship forever. So 1339 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 1: let's do. Let's make some look at that. That's an 1340 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 1: artist who's fucking with you in your highlights. Got even 1341 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Cash heard you say this in an interview the brother talk. 1342 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying your brother industry ship. Now you on your own, 1343 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: not the favorite, not for we the best, not the favorite, 1344 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:41,919 Speaker 1: not for cash money, right solely ace. Come on, come on, somebody, 1345 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 1: how do you think that made me feel? Bro? When 1346 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: you think about that, because on some real ship, bro, 1347 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: before we get okay, who's keep it real? Like this shot? 1348 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: Take the shot? Shot? Want to keep? Yeah? Who's an artist? 1349 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: We call and you were like, man, what's up? Bro? Man? 1350 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,560 Speaker 1: I need to add to the nurse And they're like, 1351 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm in on Australia for two months, Like skip over there? 1352 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: Who's that? You? Was like, you're disappointed? Maybe, yeah, I'm 1353 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 1: just you know what, let me say, ma, I move 1354 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: so different or you know what I'm saying like that's 1355 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the only thing about that, But that's what I'm saying, 1356 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: moving different, because it's one thing when you would cash money, 1357 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: you would, you would, you would, and then when you're 1358 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: on your own, it's really like, maybe what you mean 1359 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 1: someone treated differently? Someone somebody treat me? Yeah, yeah, somebody 1360 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,719 Speaker 1: treated you. Somebody would treated me. Disappointed you Uh yeah, bro, Yeah, 1361 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 1: not to the level of disappointed, because I felt like 1362 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: it was expected, but for sure I think it's the 1363 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: relationships with people that I had. They weren't the same, 1364 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like a lot of the 1365 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 1: relations and ships were recommendations to me, you know what 1366 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: I mean. So I had to get rid of lawyers 1367 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: and all type of ship because it was recommended. It 1368 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: was in house type ship, you know what I'm saying. 1369 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, I had an identity, 1370 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: So it's like I had to create a whole another 1371 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: identity outside of that. That's what that was. The different 1372 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: thing about me is that coming outside of we the 1373 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: best was like, Okay, y'all know me for that, But 1374 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 1: I'm a new I'm a new being outside of this thing. 1375 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I got to create a new met Because I want 1376 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: you to keep it right, Who's art is that you 1377 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: worked with? When when you that you wanted to work 1378 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: with now and you can't get a hold of if 1379 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:45,280 Speaker 1: somebody got there, Chris Chris yaw are you gonna ask him? 1380 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 1: And but this was not like it's not the most 1381 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: but but it ain't the most like recent thing, but 1382 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: it was like a record, you know, right, It was 1383 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: a record that actually a smash record. And I still 1384 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: haven't I hadn't released it, but it was like, uh, 1385 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: I thought about three or four years ago I was 1386 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,679 Speaker 1: trying to put out but I just for some reason 1387 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 1: couldn't get in contact with him. But through the grape vine, 1388 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I just heard that there might be uh a little 1389 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: bit of discomfort from that end situation that I wasn't 1390 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: fully aware of. Spicking side not so much of that 1391 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: is it was an incident that happened years ago of 1392 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: him wanted me to be a part of a record 1393 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: of just by hearsay that he wanted me to be 1394 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: a part of a record and thought that like I 1395 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 1: didn't you know, and I never came through to do 1396 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,560 Speaker 1: the record. I wasn't interested in doing the record. That 1397 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: that's never true. That's why around everything, I think you 1398 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,640 Speaker 1: like he was on a toy or something like that, 1399 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 1: Like I just could for some reason energetically, it just 1400 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't reach him in some way, you 1401 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like hitting him on the 1402 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: d M type ship like no response type, you know 1403 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,839 Speaker 1: what I mean, like that type of field. So uh rightfully, 1404 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: so I could have went deeper, you know what I mean? 1405 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 1: And holiday, you know, I feel like a highlight the 1406 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 1: people around him and all and they you know what 1407 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, people give you the little 1408 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,200 Speaker 1: run around type. Yeah, hit him through the you know, 1409 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: and make sure, you know, tap into the type ship. 1410 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: So it was like one of those as opposed to 1411 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: just you as man's you can just tell him you 1412 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: feel me. So it was the little little things like 1413 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: that that I started noticing or whatever. Um, but that's 1414 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: probably like the most recent you know, the only thing 1415 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 1: that's happened, not the most recently. The only thing is 1416 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 1: to meet a lot of artists from me and I 1417 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: work with a lot of people too, So coming coming 1418 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: out of it, I wouldn't really try. I wouldn't really 1419 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 1: a shot. Like, look, I don't know, people, come on, man, 1420 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: please running on me. I just episodes. I probably said 1421 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: it already, so like you know what I mean, Like 1422 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I just want you to tell your story. Man, 1423 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: I really do I feel you. I feel you. But 1424 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 1: it wasn't all right, okay, okay, alrite I write boom boom. 1425 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: If we're keeping it G and we're keeping honest, you know, 1426 01:16:54,000 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he said that. So if we 1427 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, bro, if we're keeping the G, 1428 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 1: you know that was you know, bro, like that was 1429 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 1: like weird energy coming from the other side, you know, 1430 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 1: like that was real people trying to stop me from 1431 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: prosper prospering on the side of like my old label 1432 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: on some g ship. I ain't gonna say names or whatever, 1433 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: but me trying to like you know, I'm paying for 1434 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 1: radio and me trying to put my record through on radio, 1435 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 1: getting his service thro radio, Like then he's trying to 1436 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 1: undercut me beginning like yeah, I felt like not even 1437 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: felt that's that's what we're happening that ship, that's what 1438 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: we're popping. You were trying to like finish me for real. 1439 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: That's how I felt. That's how I took it personally, 1440 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 1: And that was that was my energy, you know what 1441 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I was on that type of ship 1442 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 1: of just like because that's what it is. That's what 1443 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,679 Speaker 1: niggas do, like you know, and um, it's like anything. 1444 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: And it's like when you're trying to create some ship 1445 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: for yourself, like why I gotta be a problem, you 1446 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like and and for me, I 1447 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: got I had an issue with that, bro, Like I 1448 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 1: don't don't stop me if you gonna stop me from 1449 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 1: trying to feed my family. I gotta issue. That means 1450 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 1: you can't really exist the way you want to exist. 1451 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: If I can't, if I can't feed my family, that's 1452 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,719 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for people, you know what I'm saying. 1453 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 1: So for me, once it start, once that started happening, 1454 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: like I got into that mode, and that's when she 1455 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: started moving and people started kind of the fall back, 1456 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: and you know, ship started to move a little bit 1457 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: faster with some shirts, certain ships. So but I I 1458 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: want with that ship, bro, I went with that. You 1459 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,799 Speaker 1: feel me. I'm gonna tell you one time about artists, 1460 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: particularly man Solo hit me just now. He hits you 1461 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: right now, the artist like get that. But once one 1462 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:51,599 Speaker 1: time you know I'm cold, hm, but you know I'm 1463 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: in all right, So I want to do a record 1464 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: with Big Sean. This when you're living in Kendall already 1465 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm already left kindle Okay, by the way, Eddie lives 1466 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: with me, him and Script TV. They go walk my 1467 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: draws and but let me just I'm good good. But 1468 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: and maybe I maybe I went through the wrong people 1469 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to go to Big Sean, because because when I've seen 1470 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 1: him later on in life. He acted like he really 1471 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't understand. But I'm I'm cold and ship, but I'm 1472 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 1: still norry. I feel like, yo, who I am? So 1473 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't reach him direct. I see him in a 1474 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Shawan Chris Concers Shawan Chris concert. Forget who else has 1475 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Big Sean is on there? I think while is on there? 1476 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: So I said new Jersey, New Jersey for me, that's 1477 01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Robard County for Miami. They go, oh, it's all day 1478 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: at it got it next joint. Oh, So I pulled up. 1479 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,679 Speaker 1: I see him myself. I give Big Sean the CD, 1480 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,680 Speaker 1: but I get it. You're coming off stage. You know, 1481 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: whoop the whoop. But what happened was I hit a 1482 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: guy named Mike Brinkley. I remember it because I remember 1483 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: everybody in front of me. I'll give you that. Mike 1484 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Bringer he works in rock Nation right now. He knows 1485 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 1: he cannot destroy this story. I'm following over Mike Bribbley. 1486 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 1: I followed uver Myke Briley used to cut here. He's 1487 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: just a barber. He still he used to beat nas 1488 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 1: barbera and then I think at one point he is 1489 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: my brober. So I'm like, damn, you go from the 1490 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: barber to Big Shaws managing, you're not even answering my 1491 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: call like this is real. So bottom line, I never 1492 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: got the record through with Big Sean. I never got 1493 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,559 Speaker 1: a response. I never got an answer back, never got 1494 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,479 Speaker 1: nothing right to me. That's this respect. Yeah, it's it's 1495 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 1: big time. That's justpect right. You a little shop this 1496 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: so this shop and disrespect and come on, bro, like 1497 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 1: like I done. I don't got no problem with Big Sean. 1498 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what happened one day like 1499 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 1: tho's exactly that we outside as we usually be. Shawn 1500 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 1: sees us in town, walks up to me since y'all 1501 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, says, no, you're not. I'm a lying. 1502 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: Even my wife with them me like what are you doing? 1503 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Like I was like, no, you're not. Like this is 1504 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 1: now drift chances work. This is a different thing. Let's 1505 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 1: said he wanted to get a drink chance or nothing. 1506 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,639 Speaker 1: But Bro, I came to you. I brough to your people's. 1507 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna blame his people's more than I'm gonna 1508 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: blame that because I can tell from his reaction he 1509 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: was not prepared. He did not know about all these 1510 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: calls I'm an artist too, but he remembered that c handle. 1511 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 1: There's no way you don't remember me handing you that scene. 1512 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: That's the reason why I didn't connect with the five connected. 1513 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: You never connected. Oh I'm sorry, I don't know if 1514 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 1: this is a private instant, that's a real ship blowing up. 1515 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I apologize that I'm a fan of that, like I 1516 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,800 Speaker 1: don't want to do a song too. That's I'm a 1517 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: fan of you, so obviously I'm a fan of I'm 1518 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna take away from me being a fan of 1519 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 1: you as an artist. But I thought has his reaction. 1520 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of him as a person. You understand, 1521 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: it's a shot. Let's take a shot. But that looses 1522 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 1: you up because God bless, God bless and I want 1523 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 1: to you know, here's a disclaimer. He's a disclaim right 1524 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 1: that comes with that exact right. Bad. Maybe that incident 1525 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,559 Speaker 1: not him, because you know he's great. He doesn't give 1526 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 1: a was I kid one way or another? And I 1527 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 1: you know it's doesn't really I'm sure he does care 1528 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I don't think so. I 1529 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't mean I would hope for 1530 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 1: who he is now who he is, you know, God 1531 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,960 Speaker 1: bless him. Man, You know, I really am because sometimes 1532 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the team does get in the way. I feel like 1533 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,560 Speaker 1: he was the team because of Christ and I should have. 1534 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 1: I should have, I should have you know, but you 1535 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: didn't hand him the CD. No, I did have him 1536 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 1: to see at this, at this wisdems crazy, let's big 1537 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: up the limit. He called him and reached out in right, 1538 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, his team. But that's how I do. I 1539 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 1: like what I'm saying, like you his direct team. That's 1540 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 1: the reason why, this is the reason why he knew 1541 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 1: I want when I said, because I don't don't remember 1542 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen tomorrow, like I'm you know, when I 1543 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 1: said Mike Brinkley, and he looked, he put his head 1544 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: down like whoa. It's either he remembered that time that 1545 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 1: he was dealing with Mike Brinkley or he remembered that 1546 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: might Brinkley reached out. So it's either I don't I can't. 1547 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: But bottom line, well, as I got fronted on and 1548 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't wait wait wait that incident stopped you from 1549 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 1: front on the next person. Na. I'll judge every character, 1550 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: but I don't think let me just be clear, because 1551 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: we made this about him, but I don't think he's 1552 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,439 Speaker 1: a bad person. I think it was a bad decision 1553 01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,920 Speaker 1: made about both of us and it and it had 1554 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 1: to be. But would that make me front of somebody else? 1555 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't let me clarify this question, sir. 1556 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, have you ever felt that you might 1557 01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 1: have done that to somebody else? Yeah? Yeah, so you 1558 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 1: were mixed by mistake though it's been clearly But me personally, 1559 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 1: my son, a person names him, I would be like, yo, 1560 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 1: did my bad, especially if I'm a fan of the person, 1561 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: because that's what he came up to me and said that. 1562 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,599 Speaker 1: He would have said, Yo, what's something I'm doing? Good 1563 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 1: to meet you? I would have gave my five and 1564 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:16,880 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think it's good to meet me 1565 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 1: before you know what I'm like, and I would have 1566 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: remembered you know what I mean. But he didn't say that. 1567 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: He said, Yo, it's up, bro, I'm a big fan, 1568 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you are not, which I 1569 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 1: can't expect that too loud. I just say there. I 1570 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: said it enough for my knicks to be like, what 1571 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 1: the fund is he doing? But they just say, it's like, 1572 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 1: man that forever side, I'm want to do what we 1573 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 1: couldn't do, And his security looked like what like it was. 1574 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 1: It was weird because it's twenty six of us clearly 1575 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: it's twenties. The securities him and two securities. No, no, no, no, 1576 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,559 Speaker 1: I just expect. I'm just I'm not. And it wasn't 1577 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 1: no beef sh it at all. It wasn't no beef. 1578 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,360 Speaker 1: It was just like, yo, bro, So I'm just saying, 1579 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: you had to go through something after at a little 1580 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,600 Speaker 1: bit of we bat like you wanted to make a 1581 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 1: new not when no artists, bro, not with no artists, 1582 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 1: because I had to recreate myself. I needed people to 1583 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 1: see me in in a in a different like on 1584 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 1: my own, you know what I mean, and get used 1585 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 1: to what that looked like. You know what I'm saying, like, 1586 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's so it's just me. It was 1587 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 1: just thin I'm saying. I'm like I did like like 1588 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: but it was like I don't. I don't had the 1589 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,680 Speaker 1: opportunity in the platform to do so many features and 1590 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that, like, because the talk back then 1591 01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 1: was just like, oh, you can't do you can't make 1592 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:39,639 Speaker 1: it head without the feature. That's the stigmas that looked 1593 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 1: over that orse they trying to but I don't pay 1594 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, I know I do me and I know 1595 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,960 Speaker 1: him to get down when it's trying to get down whatever. 1596 01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: So so for me, like that's what it was. I'm 1597 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,599 Speaker 1: just like, man, I need to like people to see 1598 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 1: me in a different light because I'm a different being 1599 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: with a different person and more elevated and more leveled up. 1600 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: So I'm like, people need to understand who this person 1601 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: is now. That way they can learn and learn to 1602 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 1: understand the individual, and then we're gonna pay it back 1603 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 1: the features, like we're doing present moment. You see what 1604 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Feel like your early career was built off 1605 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 1: of you with somebody else because you got cold creating 1606 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 1: these records and creating these moments. I said, no, no, 1607 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 1: I know, but I just want to go back to it. 1608 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 1: And just like, because this is a big gym for artists, 1609 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 1: like for you to recreate yourself on your own without 1610 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: any features, Like how difficult did you feel that was? 1611 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that's humbling because you're ego would tell 1612 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 1: you the feature didn't matter. That's what that's what I'm 1613 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: actually in a different way that he said no artist 1614 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 1: front and that's what I was saying. I gonna say 1615 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: it like yeah, just because after that point, I didn't 1616 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,280 Speaker 1: reach out to no big artist. I just reached out 1617 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: to the people that had relationships with or that you 1618 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that was only is so 1619 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: I kind of stayed in a certain lane. I didn't 1620 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 1: really try to go above that type of thing, you know. 1621 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 1: So it's like and I went into that, I went 1622 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: into it with expectation. If I did go I would 1623 01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 1: know in my mind, alright, what they may charge me 1624 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: or what they so, you know, because I had to 1625 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: put on the business pad again, I'm rebuilt it at 1626 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 1: this point. I'm learning business, you know, I'm learning finances. 1627 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm learning, you know, just about myself, who in my 1628 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: outside of music, who outside of ace hood, Like I'm 1629 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 1: learning my I'm learning how to be a man for 1630 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 1: real all of Again. I feel like I was coming 1631 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: from a world that allowed me to be a child, 1632 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 1: that allowed me to you know, not take responsibility of 1633 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,880 Speaker 1: some of my choices and decisions and just like allow 1634 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,960 Speaker 1: it to fall through the crack, you know what I mean. 1635 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: Like allowed me to or a little bit with I 1636 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,559 Speaker 1: r S. I allowed me, you know what I'm saying, 1637 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: just that little ship right there. And it's like I 1638 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 1: had to big switch all that over and find healthy pieces, 1639 01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 1: healthy pieces around me that's gonna help me flourish. And 1640 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,520 Speaker 1: it's like now that I've built that, that that infrastructure 1641 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 1: is like, that's what's helped me sustain, you know, during 1642 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 1: my independent journey. So and that's was a part of 1643 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 1: my recreation. It was everything outside of the music, my accounting, 1644 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, finding a new pr you 1645 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, which you're still music, but finding 1646 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,960 Speaker 1: a good manager, you know what I'm saying, Finding a 1647 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: good business manager. You know what I'm saying, Like you 1648 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: gotta handle your business. I had to put on that hat, 1649 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 1: which was scary as fun because it's like Nigga, I 1650 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 1: came from where I had a bunch of people around 1651 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: doing everything. Ain't have to do nothing. My homie, he 1652 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna handle that, he gonna do that. I got a problem, 1653 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: my dog that I knew what it called, Like I 1654 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 1: gotta do it leaves me and my hands are free, 1655 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,800 Speaker 1: like now with changes to where on my table like, 1656 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 1: so I ain't reach out to know other artists cause 1657 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't gonna pay you niggas that first 1658 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 1: of all, because I'm independent and ship different, you know 1659 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, but I ain't had no body 1660 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,639 Speaker 1: to the front of me like that. I'm gonna smoke 1661 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 1: that ship, drink, hold on, hold on, you gotta stay 1662 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 1: here for this one happen to have. So I'm sorry, 1663 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,799 Speaker 1: this is this is you know, this is yours? Because 1664 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,080 Speaker 1: so what is your? What do you like? Oh? Jeeus? 1665 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 1: You want our opinions first before you asser this? Yes, 1666 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:02,879 Speaker 1: I do. I just say that being independent, you control 1667 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 1: you own. There's a better legacy there, I feel. And 1668 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: then major no explanations really like would you like more 1669 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 1: independence or it's never true independence. I prefer a team 1670 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, um connection with destro He did what I'm saying. 1671 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,880 Speaker 1: But in terms of everything, I like independence. Why because 1672 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 1: I like ownership. I like owning my master's I like 1673 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,120 Speaker 1: owning my ship. I like owning my publishing. I like 1674 01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 1: owning all my rights and ship. I like getting the largest, 1675 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 1: the larger percentage of my business splits for my royal. Yeah, 1676 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 1: my family were from the crack one you feel me, 1677 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 1: But I mean, God is good man. But I prefer 1678 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 1: independent because right like, I'm the happiest I've ever been 1679 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 1: whirled because I'm free. Nobody owned me, nobody, nothing I got, 1680 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 1: I got my mom scra got to do. I don't 1681 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 1: want for them good and I can you know what 1682 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I constructure my ship to fit the major's 1683 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. You could be on a major and 1684 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 1: they don't own you, bro like, I mean, that's very rare. 1685 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,200 Speaker 1: That depends on how you come into the major that 1686 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: you have to come in, don't you know what. I 1687 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 1: came into a low level and we had what was 1688 01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 1: called the Grandfather deal at the end, and that was 1689 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,320 Speaker 1: beautiful for me, but they could not do certain things 1690 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: to me. Grandfather deal is so I just, I just 1691 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 1: I just want to explain. But that ever matters too, 1692 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,600 Speaker 1: that's a different era. I don't Okay, Okay, maybe you 1693 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: have a point there. Let me not argue with that there. 1694 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: And but let me just tell you something. There is 1695 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: a way to be on the major's and still there's 1696 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with being on Have all your integrity have 1697 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 1: I have? I have? I'm not saying it takes away 1698 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 1: integrity I mean it does. I'm just saying, if you 1699 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,880 Speaker 1: like to be independent, like you said, oh everything, make 1700 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,680 Speaker 1: your own decisions, steer your own ship. But when you're 1701 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 1: on a major, you got execs you gotta talk to, 1702 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 1: you gotta. They're gonna handle how you market yourself, how 1703 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 1: you promoted, when it comes out, how it comes out, 1704 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna own them like a bank, like 1705 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,080 Speaker 1: you gotta owe them money. That's all alone. And that's 1706 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 1: the difference of the area because in that era there 1707 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 1: was so much money in the industry, but they would 1708 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 1: wash those loans. All right, Cool, don't worry, you don't 1709 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: expect anymore, and we'll bring you into time though. All right, 1710 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:32,560 Speaker 1: all right, COOLi cool, you gotta relax them. But no, no, 1711 01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,519 Speaker 1: sty were here, stay right here, stay right here, stay 1712 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 1: right No, no, this is a difference, right alright. After 1713 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,800 Speaker 1: you learned the business, you've satisfied with the record label, 1714 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: you do it. It's like it's like, here's the part 1715 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 1: where I wish you would have said either leaving Depth 1716 01:32:53,760 --> 01:33:01,640 Speaker 1: Cam or leaving Universe. When your contract is void. You 1717 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: could have said, I want to stay with Universal, right, 1718 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,479 Speaker 1: or I want to stay with Death Jam. There as 1719 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 1: long as death. Jam is with that that wouldn't have happened, 1720 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 1: though it was why I wouldn't have happened. I would 1721 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 1: like to I would imagine everything you're saying about the 1722 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 1: black balling, It wouldn't have happened. That's what I'm imagining, right, 1723 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,080 Speaker 1: because to me, it's like, but it can I've done that, 1724 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 1: can't hand had So you're saying specifically right right right 1725 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,719 Speaker 1: the people two many people in the building. Yes, yes, exactly, 1726 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:39,720 Speaker 1: yeah and just but but I'm telling you that it 1727 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: did happen because I did that with my situation. You 1728 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,560 Speaker 1: understand saying I did that in my situation where it 1729 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,880 Speaker 1: was like a cool, you're unique, bro, you were signed 1730 01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,640 Speaker 1: the Rocketfeller without being signed the Rocketfeller. Come on it, 1731 01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:58,479 Speaker 1: so you're not the only guy that was on a 1732 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 1: major that that was. I think it's not that you're 1733 01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,640 Speaker 1: not you You really you're taking what I'm saying and 1734 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 1: going in a different day. Have the independent approach to Look, 1735 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: I mean it's look, man, I think that I'm not 1736 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 1: opposed you feel me to to rocking with a major label. 1737 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,680 Speaker 1: I think it all depends on like it's just what 1738 01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,080 Speaker 1: we can agree to. You know what I mean, like, 1739 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 1: what you're willing to get, what you're willing to be 1740 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 1: flexible with. It's all about a deal. To me, it's 1741 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 1: all with the within the guidelines of the contract. It 1742 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 1: could be major, it could be anything like if if 1743 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: it's the right team, it's the right situation, like I 1744 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,120 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I'm gonna go with it. But it's 1745 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot determining. That's that type of thing. 1746 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 1: When I'm when I'm really getting your perfect right now, 1747 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 1: everybody is like a little Wayne just sold as masters 1748 01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,120 Speaker 1: for a hundred man. It's publishing, wasn't it. It's the 1749 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Masters of his It's not even him. He's selling like 1750 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I think his Nicki Mina. It's not even him. And 1751 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, these are the focused people in the world 1752 01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,479 Speaker 1: said disguise signing for I mean, nobody should go in 1753 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 1: the ship they don't really know about you know what. 1754 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: It's like. It's like it's like I would never do that. 1755 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: I would not because if I'm in that situation, but 1756 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 1: you've never been in that situation, you can't really say that. 1757 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that absolutely it's like for 1758 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 1: us to zoom the funk out. That's it. I'm gonna 1759 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:32,840 Speaker 1: take independent on bomb back room break like that. It's 1760 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:43,719 Speaker 1: just in case. You gotta be nice. Yeah, we gotta. 1761 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 1: You have got your got your kid, I got your Yeah, 1762 01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,479 Speaker 1: I expect that. Baby. It's just a feeling. This feeling 1763 01:35:55,560 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: this cut knock cut. It was some babbaco, this fool. 1764 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 1: This is this is how forget this is you want 1765 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: mama waa you want Mama wants you want a little 1766 01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,200 Speaker 1: game that you want. He wants the Jeffrey how you 1767 01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,600 Speaker 1: want to Jeffery? No, no, no, let's not just the 1768 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,000 Speaker 1: poses state. They're tost tiger ball. But it's for the 1769 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: bid to give Republic and Pitbulls Pitbull Company to step 1770 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 1: in tager balls. If get me, you do get you, 1771 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 1: You got your cup for you. Keep keep feeling, keep up. 1772 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 1: This is mama wanna mama wana, Mama wana holda wanna 1773 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:42,559 Speaker 1: hold on that. Yeah, that's need was sweet to Bama, 1774 01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:49,679 Speaker 1: was sweet to take takes it. So what does it need? Ye? 1775 01:36:53,720 --> 01:37:05,559 Speaker 1: All one? I was expected spect you're good, damn you're good. 1776 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Good get my fee? Yeah, this is days yes s S. 1777 01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,200 Speaker 1: I like I know you my whole life telling you 1778 01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 1: like yeah there you want to ask you is that 1779 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 1: for this form for you, because um, I watched a 1780 01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: couple of interviews where you like, man, it's the most 1781 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,479 Speaker 1: comfortable when you're Bet said, y'all we change, or with 1782 01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 1: Julie if I have to be, if I have to, 1783 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 1: But what do you feel like that was like your 1784 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: image as a wrapper at one point, like just you 1785 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,280 Speaker 1: have to like always have actual god they or actually 1786 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: have these certain things and look. So it was was that, 1787 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, I felt like I felt like 1788 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,760 Speaker 1: it was times bro, where I put like my my 1789 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 1: identity of who I who I was was in the 1790 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: things that I had, what I'm saying, like you know, 1791 01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 1: I feel like or the relationships and that I had 1792 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 1: as well, you know what I'm saying, it's all ego 1793 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 1: shipped for me. So yeah, I wanted to do right 1794 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 1: and it's like not even knowing why you really want 1795 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:37,960 Speaker 1: to rock that ship a where it is just because 1796 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,280 Speaker 1: everyone else that's what everybody else doing. So for me, 1797 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,160 Speaker 1: it was just like, man, I need to you know, 1798 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,200 Speaker 1: I need to find myself Who am I outside of 1799 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 1: that that simple question, bro, like who are you outside 1800 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,600 Speaker 1: of that? You know? And that was the search in 1801 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 1: the quest that I was on, which is why I 1802 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,720 Speaker 1: did the independence. When I got independent, I started my 1803 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 1: first project with trust the Process because I ain't want 1804 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,560 Speaker 1: to know what the fun was gonna happen during or 1805 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 1: just what's gonna happen to generally people Philly start saying, 1806 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 1: you got that from Philly, right, and you didn't even 1807 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,600 Speaker 1: know that. I don't even know it. No, I'm I 1808 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: watched basketball a little bit, but I'm a football head. 1809 01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,000 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like, that's my field. But I did 1810 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,600 Speaker 1: become familiar with it, and I think, like, great, we 1811 01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,200 Speaker 1: all inspired, Like you know what I'm saying, like so, 1812 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 1: and I like what they got going on in Philly 1813 01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:26,439 Speaker 1: to ship with that trust the Process, that's the same ship. Yeah, yeah, 1814 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,559 Speaker 1: I thought it was different. I thought that was building 1815 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 1: process and you also stressed the process problems. I don't know, 1816 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,639 Speaker 1: but yeah, exactly. Yeah. You know, I like him slogan 1817 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:37,800 Speaker 1: even with like hustle hard. I like the same old ship. 1818 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 1: It's a different day, you know, that slogan being around forever. 1819 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,320 Speaker 1: But I like phrases like you know a man have 1820 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,240 Speaker 1: problem for the hustle hard because he got a hustle 1821 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:49,680 Speaker 1: hard company. You know, you know what I think at 1822 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,080 Speaker 1: one point during when that song kind of came out. 1823 01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't like smoke, But I think that was like 1824 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,320 Speaker 1: a conversation that needed to you know what I'm saying, Like, 1825 01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 1: but I fun with main no man on my dog 1826 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 1: an man, no good people like you know, um but yeah, 1827 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: like no, I wouldn't really like no smoke smoke over 1828 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 1: that and no, no, no real issue anything. But she 1829 01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 1: was always loved. Yeah, bro makes some look to that. Yeah, 1830 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 1: secretly hiding over this and chicken. Yeah that's awsomely oose 1831 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,799 Speaker 1: are my tests? Oh yeah, it's my COVID tests. Jesus 1832 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 1: on the COVID tests over there? You got? Was that 1833 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:34,439 Speaker 1: public chick? You know? Public? You're taking the shout of 1834 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:49,400 Speaker 1: respect that I don't. Yeah, yeah, I go. Are you ready? 1835 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:52,760 Speaker 1: You gotta pick one, you know, but that the two 1836 01:40:54,360 --> 01:41:01,360 Speaker 1: you're ready, I'm ready, Bud that it one? Mm hmm. 1837 01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 1: Ross a trick Ross Trio or nicky nick training, Jesus training, 1838 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry training, Okay, I'd like how you clean that up? 1839 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: And to clean it up? Yeah, you can go to 1840 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 1: the like like the clean up, put your teeth pain, 1841 01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: you know whatever. God keep paying brout to day brought 1842 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 1: Drake away, but let's go back to day man. Yeah, 1843 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,080 Speaker 1: they gotta keep it real. I said, we want we 1844 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 1: want drinking Wayne, alright, cool, Nasa Jack, Oh, Nasa. We'll 1845 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 1: be trapped or G five G five. I heard about 1846 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 1: Booby that Yeah, I heard about Booby. But the track 1847 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,360 Speaker 1: affiliates over here. Yeah, like we're cool. We just booby 1848 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 1: trapped lest But they go at nighttime. We go we 1849 01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,200 Speaker 1: day time dudes, we go to the midg is working. 1850 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 1: We're going different, We're going through hours. You know what 1851 01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying. All Right, Yeah, Okay, we're the best on 1852 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 1: cash money, were the best? Okay? Rolex k o D 1853 01:42:54,760 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 1: Strip Club ko D. There's a different time frames, man, 1854 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,960 Speaker 1: had this run early Rolex and all them all still 1855 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,320 Speaker 1: ko D ko D was you know, let's come pre 1856 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 1: ko D. Yeah what Rolex? Take one? Rolex Okay, Kodak blackboard, 1857 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:35,759 Speaker 1: n Sell Curry, that's a rough one, Wow, Koda. Loyalty 1858 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 1: or respect? Respect? I respect? Holy movie, Rock movie. We 1859 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 1: all remember old guys. This feels good. This isn't it? 1860 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm always happy when you stop Floridas in 1861 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,680 Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, he's definitely like if there was like 1862 01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,920 Speaker 1: a pro city word for like like being like pro 1863 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:07,200 Speaker 1: to this like a process this, this this your pro 1864 01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 1: saate state this this because are you for the whole Florida? 1865 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 1: Just like just know if you I'm gonna rep all 1866 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,920 Speaker 1: of Florida, but I'm gonna be specifically South Florida. But 1867 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:18,800 Speaker 1: if you're from Florida, then you already that's that's fam. 1868 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,759 Speaker 1: You got a range right there. You turn busines marketing 1869 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:32,960 Speaker 1: from Floridas killing Mike oh ship, that's all shout out 1870 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 1: a bus markets. So is that advantage being from the 1871 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:42,280 Speaker 1: South or is it disadvantage advantage bro, advantage bro that energy, 1872 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,080 Speaker 1: that swag like that like it ain't no where else 1873 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:50,000 Speaker 1: in the world. Everybody's trying to recreate it. Everybody. We're 1874 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 1: being honest, Um, you know everybody wants that sudden touch acts. 1875 01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 1: You know, Jenna, they I'll let everybody want you know, 1876 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 1: it won't catch the vibes being on the South, that 1877 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:09,560 Speaker 1: South man, that ship slang food, the energy you saying, no, 1878 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 1: I exercise it though, m So you eat you still 1879 01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:19,920 Speaker 1: eat Southern food? Not really no, my favorite food right 1880 01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:21,960 Speaker 1: now right now, I'm getting you hard. I want you 1881 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:27,080 Speaker 1: to finish the smoke jam. That's only the finest herbs 1882 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,840 Speaker 1: on earth. You know, what is this? What do we smoke? 1883 01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm just Gas trow that's not super Tello g No, 1884 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:42,960 Speaker 1: this is no. This is your ship whatever your ship? Yeah, 1885 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:49,720 Speaker 1: Gas soon to be fishing mute about Cherry so good 1886 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:54,680 Speaker 1: he didn't even know. Sooner be distributed about CHERRYO with 1887 01:45:54,840 --> 01:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the s R S my group because because you don't 1888 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 1: smoke on right, you don't do that. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1889 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:11,160 Speaker 1: but you're back with switching. I'm a backward all right man. Yeah, 1890 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,879 Speaker 1: bro dom switches crazy. I don't like I think y'all's 1891 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,080 Speaker 1: like superheroes who can smoke the swishes. That's what I think. 1892 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:25,639 Speaker 1: I love this shot. It's okay, I love I can 1893 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,360 Speaker 1: take it. Man. I started off smoking the switches, you know, 1894 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: because that's what they was on the Purple Switches. Was 1895 01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,560 Speaker 1: the was the vibe and tell them she just was 1896 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,599 Speaker 1: destroying my throat. I'm like, just my whole vibe was harsh. 1897 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: That ship was crazy. I'm like, no, I can never 1898 01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:52,559 Speaker 1: drop with you, not not. But what's the happiest moment 1899 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,800 Speaker 1: of your whole I mean, besides your kids and your 1900 01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 1: marriage because we're gonna go there too. You know what. 1901 01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, what was that one time he 1902 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,720 Speaker 1: was like, man, this is this is this is me? 1903 01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:11,559 Speaker 1: Like you know, I let me shut up that one 1904 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,080 Speaker 1: time where it's like this is me. Oh, this is 1905 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,240 Speaker 1: not not this is me, but like I have a 1906 01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:25,679 Speaker 1: rived belong Oh it's a good question, man. I feel 1907 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,799 Speaker 1: like I felt like that when the Hustle Hard record dropped. 1908 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: It's like I belonged. I felt like that was a 1909 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: solidifying record. But I think like to find my footing 1910 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,840 Speaker 1: in the independence world to keep it honest, bro, because 1911 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I recently had that feeling of where 1912 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:44,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like this is where I belong, 1913 01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,040 Speaker 1: Like this is what I need to be doing, Like 1914 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 1: this is what I need to be saying right now, 1915 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,840 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like 1916 01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the right Like just you know when you 1917 01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,760 Speaker 1: feel like the universe is a line of things in 1918 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,640 Speaker 1: your life and it's like holy ship, Like it's like 1919 01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:58,120 Speaker 1: that's where I'm like, you know what I'm saying. So 1920 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:02,400 Speaker 1: it's like when just my independence represents that, man off, 1921 01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,759 Speaker 1: just like this's what I need to be doing because 1922 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 1: I can do it, and I can do it from 1923 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,600 Speaker 1: the Independence perspective. I thought that I put all my 1924 01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,920 Speaker 1: faith and all my energy and all my identity and 1925 01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,840 Speaker 1: into that whole idea of being a part of a 1926 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,080 Speaker 1: major label and a part of that I thought, like, 1927 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't do it like oh am I 1928 01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 1: without that ship and to be who I am in 1929 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:24,320 Speaker 1: the independent world, like still thriving and still relevant in 1930 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 1: this world. I'm like, that's why I need to be. 1931 01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 1: I knew I was built for this ship, bro. And 1932 01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,360 Speaker 1: I agree with you, right God, you gotta give me 1933 01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 1: a moment where you would like with that, with that 1934 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,240 Speaker 1: platinum racket and you have to feel like you belong. 1935 01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,200 Speaker 1: You're telling me, you're telling me what these big records, 1936 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,920 Speaker 1: in these platinum records, you're in these parties and you're 1937 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,439 Speaker 1: feeling like you didn't belong like you you felt like 1938 01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,920 Speaker 1: what what does that? What does that yourself? For me? 1939 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:57,360 Speaker 1: Because I'm saying like like like it's certain times in 1940 01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 1: my career, Well, I'll go to a party and that's 1941 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:04,120 Speaker 1: my party. Good m my ship. Yeah, you ain't never 1942 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,360 Speaker 1: like I feel like that. I feel okay, So for that, 1943 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,880 Speaker 1: like I'm going anywhere for this The BT Awards, bro 1944 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,599 Speaker 1: Okay BT Awards where I felt like that you feel 1945 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, because just the note right, So 1946 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,040 Speaker 1: Hustle Heart was a mixtape record, right, it wasn't even 1947 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:26,760 Speaker 1: an album record. Yeah, it was just a record, Like 1948 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,479 Speaker 1: I created that, the crib put that BET on the 1949 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,000 Speaker 1: mix tape, and then once the city got a hold 1950 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,120 Speaker 1: to it, like they want to call and phone back 1951 01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,120 Speaker 1: and back like yo, so they called yo, E class 1952 01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 1: hit him like yo, you know I pick a beat 1953 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,960 Speaker 1: to this. By the way, I don't know if I'm 1954 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 1: that guy ever, I don't know who forever. So so 1955 01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:07,560 Speaker 1: damn where was that? What was that? Was? Thank you 1956 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:14,000 Speaker 1: my brother? B two awards right, so I'm like, so 1957 01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,400 Speaker 1: boom B two awards. Bro. It's the moment where I 1958 01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,400 Speaker 1: felt like, because Hustle Hart was a mixtape record or whatever, 1959 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,120 Speaker 1: this is a record that you know it weren't no 1960 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,360 Speaker 1: label help, But these were my ideas. This is my voice, 1961 01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,400 Speaker 1: this is my writing, like, this is my penmanship, you 1962 01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:29,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We want to perform this ship 1963 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,880 Speaker 1: at the BET Awards, bro, Like that's massive where I 1964 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,200 Speaker 1: come from. You did, like, and I'm the first artist 1965 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,360 Speaker 1: from my city, you know, full disclosure, I'm the first 1966 01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,719 Speaker 1: artist from Broward County, Broward County, Florida, from the county 1967 01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 1: you claim the whole county first, Rowert County, Florida. I am. 1968 01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:51,080 Speaker 1: I am the original. I am the first. I am 1969 01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:56,280 Speaker 1: the pioneer. That's a fact. That's a fact. It just 1970 01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:00,760 Speaker 1: just to be honest with you, not to say that 1971 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,719 Speaker 1: there wasn't. I can speak for me, I can't speak 1972 01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 1: for the others. I'm speaking about my pioneer, what I did, 1973 01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:11,400 Speaker 1: what I contributed to what I yea yeah, yeah, I mean, 1974 01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there was from house, not not records 1975 01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,840 Speaker 1: like that, breaking records like you was doing. I'm just 1976 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,760 Speaker 1: saying there was. Just but you know that we all 1977 01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,240 Speaker 1: all people, we are all doing something on someone else's back, 1978 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,519 Speaker 1: and we got to understand that it was about Brown 1979 01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,080 Speaker 1: County and I'm talking about Brownder County. Well, who back 1980 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,000 Speaker 1: would I have done it on at that particular time. 1981 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying just artists that have been doing it, 1982 01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,360 Speaker 1: like since maybe even the eighties, even people I don't 1983 01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,800 Speaker 1: even know about. I'm from early nineties era that I'm 1984 01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:44,160 Speaker 1: talking that I'm thinking about. Okay, okay, for securit legends 1985 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,960 Speaker 1: from me. Yeah, but I'll respect that yeah, because I'm 1986 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 1: just saying there there was people they're doing it, repping 1987 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 1: repping the county when it wasn't cool at all. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, 1988 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:56,640 Speaker 1: But let's let me say that I'm one of the 1989 01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,040 Speaker 1: pioneers of the city. You know what I'm saying, like 1990 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 1: forshure for short, like in terms of taking it away, 1991 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,040 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's that's That's all I mean. 1992 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 1: And it feels, you know, and then a lot comes 1993 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,439 Speaker 1: with that, and then like it's a beautiful feeling because 1994 01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,559 Speaker 1: being the first one you cit ain't always the greatest, 1995 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,679 Speaker 1: you know who you think gonna get the most energy 1996 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 1: and the most like towards because it's like, wait a minute, 1997 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:25,600 Speaker 1: what the you know? Um, but it was just a 1998 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,880 Speaker 1: beautiful feeling man to be on stage you know, at 1999 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: the BT Awards had Rawster, you know what I'm saying, 2000 01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,160 Speaker 1: performing live, he huge, He got all these great records 2001 01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,720 Speaker 1: and stuff and uh, you know tune at that time, 2002 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,880 Speaker 1: he already huge. And then Cat I just felt like 2003 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:41,880 Speaker 1: just us doing that together and for this to be 2004 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:45,000 Speaker 1: a record that I orchestrated made me feel affirmed, you 2005 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying as a man, bro and I 2006 01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:48,760 Speaker 1: think that like that is important. So I feel like 2007 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,400 Speaker 1: I was solidified and locked in at that moment. I 2008 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 1: felt like the city was proud and Homies was proud. 2009 01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like hustle hard Man performance, 2010 01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,960 Speaker 1: you feel me like I felt like at that particular time, 2011 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's just it right here, and from 2012 01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,800 Speaker 1: there we just went on to create more. But that 2013 01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,719 Speaker 1: was definitely an amazing moment for me. Tho crazy moment. 2014 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 1: Now you ever thought like because at the time right 2015 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,839 Speaker 1: like a little way it was the hottest thing everywhere 2016 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:23,640 Speaker 1: people compart at some time, but not really it was 2017 01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,360 Speaker 1: it was both dogs can take of your shirts, guy, abs, 2018 01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:31,320 Speaker 1: and you just think about it, like you can see 2019 01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:36,680 Speaker 1: how people will get yes on the South. Yeah, I 2020 01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,120 Speaker 1: mean like they definitely would do some comparison for sure 2021 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,240 Speaker 1: to anybody who Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. 2022 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I never liked tattooed my entire body 2023 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,280 Speaker 1: to keep it gal It's facts, Bro, because I knew 2024 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,479 Speaker 1: like I knew it, I knew it was always I 2025 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,760 Speaker 1: knew it was already a close comparison between me and Bro. 2026 01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,800 Speaker 1: So I was like, uh, I can't do all of that, 2027 01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,600 Speaker 1: plus I'm trying to get into acting and all that 2028 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,640 Speaker 1: other stuff like this is when I was young. I 2029 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:05,880 Speaker 1: made this decision. So I got my mom because I 2030 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,680 Speaker 1: was going crazy at that time. So, um, that's why 2031 01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't do that, because I'm like, I ain't trying 2032 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,880 Speaker 1: to be another Reppler, because like you, I am myself 2033 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did it. You have faced, but 2034 01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,640 Speaker 1: I would have had all probably not face tat. I 2035 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,320 Speaker 1: probably would have had it up to the neck, the whole, 2036 01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,360 Speaker 1: like the whole. Look for sure. Yeah, you have with 2037 01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:26,160 Speaker 1: lean in that moment, because yeah, it was just I 2038 01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,640 Speaker 1: don't think was that big out here. It wasn't in 2039 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,400 Speaker 1: your community. I'm talking about out here in Florida, Yes 2040 01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,400 Speaker 1: it was. I'm not that big. Just being honest, like 2041 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,600 Speaker 1: you competing upon what you're comparing it to. If you're 2042 01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 1: comparing it to what CALLI compared to Texas, I'm sorry 2043 01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Yeah, comparing it to Yeah, it was nothing here. 2044 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:50,040 Speaker 1: If you're comparing it to Texas, Yeah was out here. 2045 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:53,400 Speaker 1: Everything is sucking in Miami and Briar, every South was everything. 2046 01:54:54,120 --> 01:55:06,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't that big career, like exactly, you didn't even 2047 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 1: know what you're taking you you know, but if that 2048 01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,640 Speaker 1: ship popular in one part of the world, is active 2049 01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 1: in every every it's always like that, you know, that ship. 2050 01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,640 Speaker 1: So if it's like the weed popping in Kalid and 2051 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,080 Speaker 1: you know every place else is gonna be active with 2052 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:25,920 Speaker 1: the weed, it's like they got you know what I'm saying. 2053 01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,600 Speaker 1: So like we was active down here with it, but 2054 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,480 Speaker 1: not like you know, Houston, but being that that ship 2055 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,440 Speaker 1: was so heavily and influencing it and we're talking about 2056 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 1: it so much, like you know, it was accessible. So 2057 01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,440 Speaker 1: I had me a few bottles and ship did my 2058 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,480 Speaker 1: thing with that. What made you say that's not you? 2059 01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 1: The tiredness and ship bro the after effect, like how 2060 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,840 Speaker 1: long you would sleep, how tired you would be, like 2061 01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,280 Speaker 1: you'd being I feel like you're a genius. Don't own it, 2062 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When you want when you're 2063 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,880 Speaker 1: taking the vibe and you you know, the first like 2064 01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:04,560 Speaker 1: I always like to look so like you know, you 2065 01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,320 Speaker 1: get your mixed drop a little, you know, jolly ranches 2066 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,040 Speaker 1: in there. You're dropping jolly ranges in there. I'm dropping 2067 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,840 Speaker 1: jolly ranches in there. You know what I'm saying. I 2068 01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 1: gotta sprite vibe, you know what I mean, I'm already sprite, 2069 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:25,960 Speaker 1: jolly rang a little sweet, definitely little sweet. Yeah yeah, 2070 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:31,200 Speaker 1: all right as hell. Yeah. So you you know, you 2071 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,480 Speaker 1: drop some of that in there. I want a heavy 2072 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,240 Speaker 1: dust and you know I own experiment like that. I 2073 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,240 Speaker 1: ain't just a wild nigger. I've never been at which 2074 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad. So you know, experiment with a proper amount, 2075 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,040 Speaker 1: and then you catch the vibe and then as time 2076 01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:45,600 Speaker 1: go on, you kind of build on that energy, you know, 2077 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,520 Speaker 1: so um as I would build on that energy, like 2078 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,080 Speaker 1: you would start to feel like a little slower to 2079 01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,400 Speaker 1: wait in some way because you know you're smoking too. 2080 01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:56,560 Speaker 1: And then they creates the balance for you. And when 2081 01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 1: they creates the balance for you, like for you know, 2082 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,520 Speaker 1: you're in the studio, man, I'm knocking out eight nine records, 2083 01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:05,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm just not sleepy. 2084 01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm going though, because it's not an oval, you know 2085 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, it's not a heavy dose. It's not 2086 01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:12,240 Speaker 1: to where I'm just sluggish because you're controlling the dough 2087 01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,680 Speaker 1: right right. I'm just trying to get a balance of 2088 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,120 Speaker 1: just like boom, I got this vibe and I'm parent 2089 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 1: and with the smokes, so it's gonna give me an 2090 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,120 Speaker 1: even balance. That's how my mind works. Should be weird. 2091 01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,920 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you whether the ship create a fire balance, 2092 01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 1: so I'd be in that ship, like with the sauce 2093 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:36,800 Speaker 1: New Buggatti was on that sauce. What's around Buggatti time? Yeah, 2094 01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:52,080 Speaker 1: it was a round Buggatti time. It's around by Yeah, 2095 01:57:54,080 --> 01:58:00,160 Speaker 1: And uh, what's your favorite part of the game. You're 2096 01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:08,400 Speaker 1: performing the record, performing that motherfucker bro exactly, you know, 2097 01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:13,840 Speaker 1: performing for sure. Uh. But if I got to be 2098 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:18,080 Speaker 1: honest though, I think like making the record, making the 2099 01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,080 Speaker 1: record gotta be you know, because it's like, you know, 2100 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:24,360 Speaker 1: it's always like the predetermination of what's gonna happen when 2101 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:28,600 Speaker 1: the record dropped. You feel me, it's always like, oh, 2102 01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,560 Speaker 1: they're just gonna suck them up. They're gonna chant this. 2103 01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,360 Speaker 1: I know it. Like I know, I know for a fact, 2104 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:37,480 Speaker 1: like when I say same old ship, just a different day, 2105 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,240 Speaker 1: I know everybody can relate to that. You're gonna say 2106 01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,880 Speaker 1: this over and over. I know they're gonna repeat that 2107 01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,000 Speaker 1: and then to create the record and then to go 2108 01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 1: out and perform it and hit him to say pull 2109 01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:54,560 Speaker 1: it be back in the magic amount of historic that 2110 01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:59,480 Speaker 1: my little crowd voice like, it's active, man, it's active. 2111 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,880 Speaker 1: So I like the creation part of it for sure, 2112 01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,480 Speaker 1: because I like to see what's gonna become of that. 2113 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 1: I like that. Never've been wrong about a record where 2114 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 1: you like, this record never worked, just oh and it 2115 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:28,680 Speaker 1: works or vice versa. Mm hmm na. Bro. From being honest, 2116 01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:33,400 Speaker 1: I knew what would work and what wouldn't work. From 2117 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,800 Speaker 1: being completely honest, bro, like, I knew records that I 2118 01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,480 Speaker 1: would create, and I knew they would be like, Okay, 2119 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,280 Speaker 1: this record works for this particular like you know, these 2120 01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:44,480 Speaker 1: particular people that might listen to it. You know what 2121 01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It might be a record that might be 2122 01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,280 Speaker 1: talking about the worldly events and the government of what's happening, 2123 01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:53,040 Speaker 1: like it's gonna do that, it's gonna do this thing 2124 01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:54,800 Speaker 1: and this, you know what I mean. So I measured 2125 01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,600 Speaker 1: my expectations. So it's like if I'm creating a radio hit, 2126 01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 1: that's different, you know what I'm saying, Like for short 2127 02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,640 Speaker 1: records that I thought was gonna do better than you 2128 02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:04,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, didn't do that great that 2129 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,480 Speaker 1: I thought was like, fuck, I got a record that's 2130 02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 1: entitled I know how it feels with a type dollar sign. 2131 02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,800 Speaker 1: It's a smash radio record, but it didn't do what 2132 02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:16,280 Speaker 1: I thought it. I'm like, damn this record. Was it 2133 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:18,320 Speaker 1: the fault of the record or because it didn't have 2134 02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,360 Speaker 1: the radio push? Because it didn't have the radio push, 2135 02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,120 Speaker 1: so couldn't. It's not necessarily that you were wrong. It's 2136 02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:26,600 Speaker 1: just you didn't have maybe the tools that were needed 2137 02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:32,560 Speaker 1: to right exactly, which was part of my situation and 2138 02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,400 Speaker 1: reason to like departure and move on because that was, 2139 02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, m so right now, how was a new 2140 02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:46,560 Speaker 1: artist that you like? You would like the word baby baby, 2141 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,080 Speaker 1: little baby? I like that little nigger man. Sorry, I 2142 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:52,960 Speaker 1: always kind of thing twice yeah, because it's too right. 2143 02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:58,040 Speaker 1: There's three babies actually, y'all star up. Yeah, that's real 2144 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,840 Speaker 1: sath Yeah he said a little baby, little babies. The 2145 02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,480 Speaker 1: one South Carolina. No, no, no, he went from Atlanta. 2146 02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Little baby. That's a little big baby. Yeah. But I 2147 02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:13,400 Speaker 1: like the baby ship too, though. I like I thought 2148 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:15,360 Speaker 1: with the baby, but but I what the n G 2149 02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:17,000 Speaker 1: M O. And I like little baby. I thought just 2150 02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:20,200 Speaker 1: the baby was from South Carolina. He used to wear 2151 02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:23,920 Speaker 1: the Pampa North Carolina. They used to wear the father. 2152 02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,160 Speaker 1: The baby is from North Carolina, right, so you said, 2153 02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,680 Speaker 1: and then you said a little baby, little baby from Atlanta, right, 2154 02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:34,640 Speaker 1: So the baby is the babies but North Carolina, North Carolina. 2155 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:37,720 Speaker 1: He's little babies Atlanta day. He was here, he killed that, 2156 02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:41,240 Speaker 1: he wore it. He didn't play around with that and 2157 02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,800 Speaker 1: to be who he is. He's that little baby, but 2158 02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:46,680 Speaker 1: l with the dress. They just had a party. They 2159 02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:53,120 Speaker 1: gave Gotti at him all type of q q q C. Yeah, yeah, 2160 02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:58,200 Speaker 1: Tom gave his birthday part. I said, yeah, I get 2161 02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:05,920 Speaker 1: my life togea bird day party. Was crazy, Yeah, was crazy. Yeah. 2162 02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:09,360 Speaker 1: So it's the baby, and that's a little baby. That's 2163 02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,760 Speaker 1: a little baby, right, a little baby, right, just yeah, 2164 02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:14,720 Speaker 1: like a little baby. I've seen him in the World 2165 02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Over Story by himself walking around with two thousand. I 2166 02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,280 Speaker 1: was worth a jury on the plastic bag. His security 2167 02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:27,200 Speaker 1: was outside and on, but he walked around by himself 2168 02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:32,520 Speaker 1: like the bag. You know, his jury like ad it 2169 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:36,560 Speaker 1: in a plastic bag. I'm walking around my kids getting breakfast. 2170 02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:39,240 Speaker 1: The Wall Over the story. Remember, so I'm going from 2171 02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,920 Speaker 1: like the regular people entrance to my actual room. He's 2172 02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:47,240 Speaker 1: coming from the actual room. So we look I've seen 2173 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:53,280 Speaker 1: each other Boom I like to do to tell he's 2174 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:58,760 Speaker 1: a m hmm street with it. Yeah, security, but they 2175 02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:01,880 Speaker 1: was outside. I like that in it, like they even 2176 02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:05,200 Speaker 1: moved on their own and their own problems. On your own, 2177 02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:06,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's the type of guy 2178 02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:11,520 Speaker 1: in they you rolled up by yourself. That's the second time, 2179 02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:14,120 Speaker 1: I think, right, No, third time. They wouldn't expect you 2180 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:17,080 Speaker 1: to do that. That's the third time it's happened. People 2181 02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,800 Speaker 1: wrote a drink chapter by themselves. Okay, I mean that 2182 02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:24,920 Speaker 1: I remember so pitbo recently. People weird. What do you 2183 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:33,560 Speaker 1: mean he walked weird people like people, I don't know what. Yeah, 2184 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:38,800 Speaker 1: that's my dog. And then at fifty in a little hey, 2185 02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:42,360 Speaker 1: he originally came by himself. I know, people followed. No, 2186 02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 1: he was by himself. We used to do drink little 2187 02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:53,800 Speaker 1: and he pulled up the driver. I think if he 2188 02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,360 Speaker 1: had a driver, it was a driver. He walked into 2189 02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the spot by himself. This is absolutely who had to 2190 02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,640 Speaker 1: drive it. I think even has security. He told security 2191 02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:05,600 Speaker 1: relaxed and the driver relaxed, and he walked in by himself. 2192 02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,960 Speaker 1: And I was so honored an' so, I mean, I'm 2193 02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:14,240 Speaker 1: sure you was, But I was so honored that, you know, 2194 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, a star like hip hop, trust trust us 2195 02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:21,640 Speaker 1: because we were let happen like it doesn't matter. It's 2196 02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:24,560 Speaker 1: the safer anybody is around this one like where we 2197 02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:30,000 Speaker 1: set up and reason Miami boys, because I've been living 2198 02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,840 Speaker 1: out here in fourteen years, somewhat think Miami claimed me 2199 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 1: and I claimed Miami. Uh God damnit, Florida, God damn, 2200 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,200 Speaker 1: let's make some nor if you got to make some 2201 02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:42,400 Speaker 1: little thing and I'm not gonna lie, make some noise 2202 02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:53,320 Speaker 1: LA claim that's crazy. It's crazy. He's still living laridae. Okay, 2203 02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:59,360 Speaker 1: you moved to Atlanta. I thought just to really really 2204 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, nice beautiful place and uh that's my city 2205 02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:08,120 Speaker 1: and uh I love it here. Man. I lived in 2206 02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:10,440 Speaker 1: californ A little bit. You know what I'm saying. I 2207 02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:15,800 Speaker 1: was going back and yeah, yeah, part of Cali um 2208 02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:22,280 Speaker 1: was that I had was it l a though it 2209 02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,480 Speaker 1: was l A It wasn't l A, Yes, it was 2210 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:29,720 Speaker 1: l a. Um. What's what's the what's the beach out 2211 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:35,240 Speaker 1: in Cali? Santa Monica, Santa Monica Beach? Because I lived 2212 02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:43,400 Speaker 1: by Santa Monica Beach. That's where I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. 2213 02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Definitely lived by that area though, but it was like 2214 02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,000 Speaker 1: a very nice area, man, like good vibes out there, 2215 02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,840 Speaker 1: and stayed out there and recorded some projects. Um. I 2216 02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:53,760 Speaker 1: mean I was kind of coming back to see my family, 2217 02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:57,760 Speaker 1: see my kids and stuff. So um yeah, man, But 2218 02:05:57,960 --> 02:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I love living out here in Florida. I do't at 2219 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:03,360 Speaker 1: some point though, I get another space somewhere else, but 2220 02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I always have like my main crib in Florida. It's 2221 02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:15,240 Speaker 1: just ain't nothing like nothing like the crib. Bro. You're married. 2222 02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:21,880 Speaker 1: You're married Mary like me. That's another version of Mary. Yeah, yeah, 2223 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 1: the hip hop version of marriage. Right, you're married married Mary? Mary. 2224 02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,400 Speaker 1: How long you've been Mary? I've been married now for 2225 02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:43,080 Speaker 1: about for about eight months? Eight months okay, Yeah, I'm 2226 02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:46,680 Speaker 1: newly w Yeah. I got married in February right before 2227 02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:51,040 Speaker 1: the pen Yeah, thank you brother. I've been with my 2228 02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:54,760 Speaker 1: wife about five years, five and a years huh yeah, 2229 02:06:55,280 --> 02:07:00,200 Speaker 1: six years yeah yeah man. That's my uh man, that's 2230 02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:04,120 Speaker 1: my love. That's my motherfucking dog. Bro. Like that's the 2231 02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:09,840 Speaker 1: really ship out of money ya for real? Yeah yeah, bro, 2232 02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:17,000 Speaker 1: for real? And I love you know. What's so what's 2233 02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:20,200 Speaker 1: so crazy? Bro? Is that you know, I'll be hearing 2234 02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:22,440 Speaker 1: how people be speaking some time about marriage and ship 2235 02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:24,760 Speaker 1: and time like how it's hard and all of that. 2236 02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'd be seeing episodes and just seeing ship 2237 02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and just like some people be under playing marriage. BRO. 2238 02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:35,560 Speaker 1: I agree you like you know, if you if both 2239 02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the parties in the marriage decide to like grow and 2240 02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:43,800 Speaker 1: work through ship and have conversations about it, you could 2241 02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:46,560 Speaker 1: have a beautiful marriage of you and that other person 2242 02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:49,640 Speaker 1: that's on the same page. It can be so beautiful, Bro. 2243 02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,760 Speaker 1: It can be like like that's just like magic MONEYGA. 2244 02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:57,160 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. You feel me, That's how I 2245 02:07:57,240 --> 02:08:03,520 Speaker 1: feel like that what you're doing I put on glasses. Okay, 2246 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that's which people ship right there. I respect that respect 2247 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:14,800 Speaker 1: that no real drew to respect. I love. I think 2248 02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 1: another shot as a counselor another shot as a count yo. 2249 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean that's wrong. I'm not gonna lie. Don't listen 2250 02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:27,000 Speaker 1: when you get the check from you know what, man, 2251 02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I met with the guys. I'm met with the guys. 2252 02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:34,120 Speaker 1: They're not ready for us, Bro, already met it check. 2253 02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,280 Speaker 1: We're not getting the check. Shout out to love. We're 2254 02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:41,320 Speaker 1: not getting the check. Listen, I say we I said. 2255 02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:45,720 Speaker 1: When you know I know this, you gotta back. People 2256 02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:52,000 Speaker 1: brought this to us. It's not happening yet. Holy movie only. 2257 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I love hip hop? Man? Do you love hip hop? 2258 02:08:55,760 --> 02:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I love hip hop? Brother a little bit. Yeah, but 2259 02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to Okay, I want okay, Okay, you're 2260 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:12,760 Speaker 1: I killed that. I killed that by lifting it up. 2261 02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I killed that. Yeah, I transferred. I transferred to energy too. 2262 02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:19,720 Speaker 1: That was great energy. That was great energy. I transferred 2263 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:29,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. Motherfucker. One thing you regret that you 2264 02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:35,000 Speaker 1: could do all over. You could do it all over 2265 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, we do that different. Let 2266 02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:43,080 Speaker 1: me do it this way. What would it be? M M? 2267 02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I think the way that the way that I handled 2268 02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:55,520 Speaker 1: Not to say that it was terrible or not to 2269 02:09:55,560 --> 02:10:00,880 Speaker 1: say that it was disrespectful, but I think that if 2270 02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,920 Speaker 1: I could with our situation, with like the me and 2271 02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:11,200 Speaker 1: callous situation, if I could have just handled it in 2272 02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:14,400 Speaker 1: a very different way, not in a not in a 2273 02:10:14,480 --> 02:10:16,400 Speaker 1: bad way, but if I could have just made minor 2274 02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:20,720 Speaker 1: changes in terms of how I exited out. You know 2275 02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I think I would have done 2276 02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:26,840 Speaker 1: that in a different way. See what I'm saying, Like, 2277 02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:29,480 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't. I don't regret anything. I don't. 2278 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,800 Speaker 1: But if I just I would have exited. It could 2279 02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,400 Speaker 1: have been done differently. And what part do you think 2280 02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:42,800 Speaker 1: that you would do better? A conversation, A conversation beforehand, 2281 02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:47,520 Speaker 1: as opposed to the lawyers. I didn't call the lawyers first. 2282 02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:54,280 Speaker 1: What I did was, um interviews. You know, I started 2283 02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:57,560 Speaker 1: to express exactly, I started to express myself in the music, 2284 02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:01,040 Speaker 1: not even to human mak us came after when I 2285 02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:04,440 Speaker 1: got my independence, but um, in that time, it was 2286 02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:07,480 Speaker 1: more so just I started to express myself in my 2287 02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:11,160 Speaker 1: music as opposed to having a direct conversation with him. 2288 02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Was about it, no, no, no, no no no, it 2289 02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,600 Speaker 1: was like, uh, it's uh. That's when I went to 2290 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,640 Speaker 1: calig too, and it was Starvation four that I created, 2291 02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and I started speaking to my music about how I 2292 02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,040 Speaker 1: felt like the label wasn't really in support of my 2293 02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,480 Speaker 1: ideas and the things that I wanted to do. You 2294 02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:30,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So as opposed to having a 2295 02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:34,480 Speaker 1: uh you know, behind doors converation, you know, conversation with 2296 02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:38,240 Speaker 1: him just about my uneasiness and what I'm feeling. You 2297 02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:40,520 Speaker 1: feel me like, this is what I feel broad. You know, 2298 02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:42,400 Speaker 1: I wish you would have came to me about this. 2299 02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:44,120 Speaker 1: How I wish we could have just hashed that out 2300 02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:46,880 Speaker 1: as men. But I wasn't a man back, you know 2301 02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:50,120 Speaker 1: what I mean at that particular time to realize not 2302 02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:52,080 Speaker 1: to say that I made it, mean any mistakes, because 2303 02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:54,440 Speaker 1: I love where I am and I'm so grateful for 2304 02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:57,040 Speaker 1: where I am, you know what I'm saying. But it's 2305 02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:58,840 Speaker 1: just that because I still would have made my exit. 2306 02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,120 Speaker 1: I still wanted my freedom. Don't get it twisted. I 2307 02:12:01,160 --> 02:12:02,960 Speaker 1: still wanted to go off and do my own things. 2308 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, but who knows? Who knows? How? Um? Who? 2309 02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Who knows? That's all I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna say, 2310 02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:14,080 Speaker 1: who knows. Like one of the greatest things is like 2311 02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:17,520 Speaker 1: you know what stupid exit with Dr Dre. It went 2312 02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:19,840 Speaker 1: to master p and Dr Dre kept working with him. 2313 02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:23,360 Speaker 1: That was some crazy ship to me, Like you no, 2314 02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:27,080 Speaker 1: that stets overlooked a lot, but like that was like 2315 02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:30,720 Speaker 1: almost like yo, bro, your decision was right, Like did 2316 02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:32,640 Speaker 1: you wish like you could have done that, like you 2317 02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:35,760 Speaker 1: know when you exited we're the best and just kept 2318 02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:40,360 Speaker 1: that relationship so tight, like colleague, That's exactly kind of 2319 02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:45,440 Speaker 1: what he's saying facts and I'm not gonna say that, 2320 02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:50,640 Speaker 1: but I'm I am gonna say that I do believe 2321 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:57,120 Speaker 1: that the universe will align itself. I believe That's what 2322 02:12:57,120 --> 02:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. That's that's what I'm gonna say. You 2323 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:07,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That's what I'm gonna say. I 2324 02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:11,680 Speaker 1: don't think it is. I don't know it isn't he 2325 02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,280 Speaker 1: is because you know, you know, you know, you we 2326 02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,600 Speaker 1: never you know, I never forget, you know what I mean. 2327 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing about when people talk about loyalty 2328 02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:25,760 Speaker 1: and all of that dog It's like, you know, just 2329 02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:30,200 Speaker 1: because we might have had a a fallout or a disagreement, 2330 02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:33,840 Speaker 1: does that negate all of the greatness in the history 2331 02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,360 Speaker 1: that we created and the opportunities that were Like and 2332 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,200 Speaker 1: if I if I refer if I become president, I 2333 02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:45,840 Speaker 1: dropped myself in those moments like ship were beautiful, this 2334 02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:49,200 Speaker 1: ship was amazing, This ship changed my life. N this, 2335 02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this, my kids, my family, bro, 2336 02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:54,840 Speaker 1: like my being everything. Bro. You know what I'm saying, 2337 02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,240 Speaker 1: it changed everything. I can't forget that the way that 2338 02:13:57,560 --> 02:14:01,959 Speaker 1: that you've evolved, You're maturing he is as well. Exactly, 2339 02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,800 Speaker 1: everybody's grown. Everybody's growing, bro, everybody's making the same mistakes 2340 02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:08,920 Speaker 1: and and and that's the at the end of the day. 2341 02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:11,760 Speaker 1: That's the reality of things, bro, That's the reality. So 2342 02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:14,960 Speaker 1: for me, it's like it's never to take that energy 2343 02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:16,640 Speaker 1: because we had a bad moment that we had a 2344 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,120 Speaker 1: disagreement to be like yo, our own rock with him 2345 02:14:19,160 --> 02:14:21,200 Speaker 1: on this to that and and you know talk you know, 2346 02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:24,040 Speaker 1: tain't his name out in public or whatever. That ain't 2347 02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:26,560 Speaker 1: my character, bro, because I believe what's for me is 2348 02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:28,600 Speaker 1: for me and I'm destined for greatness because I am 2349 02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:31,280 Speaker 1: already nick. I am nigga like it ain't you know 2350 02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, And once I learned that, it's 2351 02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:36,520 Speaker 1: like we're here, We're here, like he great? So am 2352 02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:40,040 Speaker 1: I You feel me like I need my own relationships. 2353 02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:41,520 Speaker 1: You feel I gotta make my own moves and do 2354 02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:44,200 Speaker 1: my own thing, like bump my own head and living 2355 02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:46,480 Speaker 1: my own glory, feel me like, and I love that 2356 02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:48,760 Speaker 1: And me I ain't got no hatred in my heart. 2357 02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:50,360 Speaker 1: And I think like what we had was great, but 2358 02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, you move on, God bless y'all will fix this. 2359 02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. That's that's your drink. I'm sorry. 2360 02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:02,080 Speaker 1: You gotta it out good. You gotta end it out here. 2361 02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Who wants you to know what's happening, what you're doing 2362 02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:16,840 Speaker 1: in the world. You have a platform like drink Champs 2363 02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:22,440 Speaker 1: and that's your bad. Understand your play. We respect that 2364 02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:38,520 Speaker 1: always makes taking a picture. Thanks for joining us for 2365 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,240 Speaker 1: another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours Truly, d 2366 02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:43,960 Speaker 1: J e f N and n R E. Please make 2367 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:46,200 Speaker 1: sure to follow us on all our socials. 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