1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hello Scott. Every week at this time, plus Monday's, Wednesdays 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: and Thursdays, we explore the big money issues in the 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: world of sports. This week we speak to five time 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Indycard champion Scott Dixon. The first let's look at the 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: top stories of the week. Joining us is Bloomberg Business 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: of Sports reporter Evan no w Williams. Want the start 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: with my homes? Guys, Yeah, I'll either that or Evan's haircut. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Let's let's do my homes. Took a took a Twitter pole, 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: Mr bar I took a Twitter pole? Yes, no, what 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: were you thinking? Or shave it all off? No? No, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: you did the poll? Did the poll? Is taking solace 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: in the fact that almost half because if I broke 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: up to the negative, it made it look better. Said yes, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: but that left. I'm not gonna say the specific breakdown, 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: but the most was what we're thinking. We're no, just 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: y I that you've thrown shade on Evans. Speaking of haircuts, yeah, 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Mr Patrick Mahomes, Yes, he even know what he is. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: I have him by the way in my fantasy. No, no, 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: wonder you like him? Yeah, he's this guy has been 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: off the charts. But I wouldn't want to see him 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: later in the year, and everybody is getting pickets on 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: him right away. NFL teams are allowed six primetime games 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: per season. Guess what after the recent flexing that's been done. 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Guess how many you got? Mr Mahomes in the Chiefs 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: six six. We're there exactly. So they're on this Sunday right, 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Sunday night, Yeah, Senday night against the Bengals Sunday. I mean, 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: I understand why NBC takes them, but are you clamoring 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: for Sunday night against Remember Andy Reid, coach of the 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. He's a big draw to 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I'm gonna I want to do 31 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I want to do that better. Evan, you're ready, Let's 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: do it. Let's do three two one three? What what 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: do you mean? Andy? Who? No? No, no? Oh man. 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: But then your wife has a specific type as some grittiness. 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, but and you you're wearing a headset right now. 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: I can see it. But dude, there isn't a football 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: fan alive who tunes into a game to see Andy 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Reid unless they tune in the final two minutes to 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: see him screw up the clock. For that, I can't. 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I can't argue that part. Well, I mean, even the 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: Philly fans, they still want to see him. Evan help me. Yeah, 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not tuning in for Andy Reid, I think. 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I I mean, I understand why this game gets flexed. 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: The Bengals are in first place, but probably more importantly, Mahomes, 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, is his first year as a starter. Who 46 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: knows in five weeks if he's going to be as 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: interesting exactly? So he's got one more available slot. Why 48 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: not get it now when everyone remembers the game he 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: had last week? It makes sense to me for NBC 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: my home super dude. That's all I want to say. 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of the NFL, I want to talk about the 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Chargers and the owners are talking about the viability of 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers in Los Angeles and should be an ellipse 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: dot dot dot already. You know the projections that were 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: given when this was being discussed. Let's just say, how 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: should we be kind? Were lofty, over over over deliver. 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Well that's why I say we're the lofty expectations. The 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: reality is versus the Rams who are sharing the stadium, 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: owned the stadium. They're having trouble selling suites, the premium 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: stuff that should not happen in this new building and 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: in a temporary stadium that really only has what about 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: half of the seats in a regular what we're talking 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: about what they're selling the new stadium but right now, yeah, 64 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: that's the soccer stadium MLS stadium, but they're not seats. Yeah, 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: so let's just say the owners are taking notice, like, 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: did we screw this up? Is there another way? Is 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: there another plan? Uh? San Diego ship has sailed, they're not. 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: They don't have a building there. What are the options? Now? 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: What do you do with the chargers? They made a 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: lot of promises were made. They're getting their cash now 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: what It's not a good situation. Yeah, it's compounded by 72 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: the fact that, as you mentioned, the Chargers are going 73 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: to be a tenant in the in the building. You know, 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: they're not even gonna be an owner in that um. 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, the revenue projections from ticket sales, according to ESPN, 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: they were set at four hundred million. Now they may 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: be revised down to one million. That's a big drop, 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: almost big drop. Speaking of stadiums, No, no, you're you're 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: the segment. You are the conductor of this Yeah, okay, 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: all right, when you're when you're not when you're not here. 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Evan and I get the Twitter in the email likes bar. 82 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: We want to listen to Bar right, uh NFL owners 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: We also mentioned I want to add, right quick, they 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: said that they don't foresee the Seattle Seahawks moving. They're 85 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: not gonna go anywhere with the death of Paul Allen. 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Angels right quick, because the topic 87 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: with that is, uh, what's happening here? Are they then 88 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: that it's one of the oldest stadiums and not. Evan, 89 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: would you have known if somebody said to you name 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the five oldest stadiums in baseball, I you would give 91 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: me a lot of guesses. I don't think i'd have 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: got around to Angel Stadium. I would not have been 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: And the three they are older than Angel Stadium are 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: the classic ones. It's Dodger Stadium. Um. The other thing 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: that that shocked me in reading on this, uh, the 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Angels in addition to the Yankees, they're the only two 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: teams that have sold over three million for the past 98 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: sixteen years. I would never have guessed that, you would 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: never So they got three million the Dodgers spent some 100 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: bucks to renovate Dodger Stadium. They're never going anywhere. There's 101 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: the charm of Dodger Stadium, of Fenway and Wrigley. You 102 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: make with what you got. But now the Angels are 103 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: going the other way. They're saying this doesn't have the 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: reverence of those places. We need something new. Well, they 105 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: moved there in six, opened in sixty six, so that 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean you were only thirty four. Thank you, my goodness, 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: we had they caught the ball with bare hands back 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: in those days. Yeah. Thanks to Bloomberg Business of Sports 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: reporter Evan Novie. Williams Now, Scott and I are very 110 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: excited about this interview, especially me. See this is why 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: I come to work every day because this they paid 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: me for them. Well you're okay, yeah, you okay, but 113 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: I can go home and get treated this. Scott Dixon, 114 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: who has won his fifth IndyCar Championship, he is in 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: studio with us. See this is great. Thank you, welcome, thanks, 116 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Oh my good well, first 117 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: of all, congratulations your fifth title. That means now outside 118 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: of a J. Foyt, you have the most titles. You're 119 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: at number two yeah. I think what the stat was 120 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: fifty one years since since anybody had won five fifth championship, 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: like the way he was like, I don't really know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 122 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: they kept saying it. You know, now it's like embedded thing. 123 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: I should have sen fifty plus years fifty one, maybe 124 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: it's fifty two. I don't know, but it Yeah, no, 125 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: it feels fantastic. Um. You know, I think this year 126 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: was was really stressful. We started leading the championship early, 127 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, like in Texas SOS in June, and uh, 128 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: they were starting to slip away towards the end. You know, 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: we we we had a really healthy points lead and 130 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Alexander Rossie it was differently closing down so we we 131 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: we crawled onto that thing man and wouldn't let it go. 132 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: So it was good. Now you can in second, but 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that's what you needed to win it. Yeah, we basically 134 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: just had to finish ahead of you know, Rossie in 135 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the twenty seven car, and he had a he had 136 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: an incident in the first first corner, first lap um 137 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and then but charged through the field. You enjoy that, 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: like you know, going and you have a strategy. He 139 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: had an incident in the first quarter of the first lap, 140 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: You're like, the problem is with our racing is that 141 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: when that happens that you know, you normally have a 142 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: driver that has a crash in the first corner, you know, 143 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: has to change the front wing, has a drive through penalty. 144 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: The list goes on, and then they came back and 145 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: end up winning the race. So that that's the first 146 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: thing that popped into my head and I'm like, oh, no, 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna go off strategy. They're going to catch a 148 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: lucky yellow and it's going to flip the field and 149 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: the way we go. But yeah, it was Actually it 150 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: was an unnerving easy day, which yeah, it was weird. 151 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was good. It was great obviously, 152 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: but at the whole point, you know, when I was 153 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: driving around, just like, man, the engine does that sound right? 154 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: Or you know it's a tire going flat or yeah, 155 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you start thinking something's gonna go wrong. So all in all, 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: it was a fantastic day for us. Good thing about 157 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: it is that IndyCar, the entire series, they're very bullish 158 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: now about its future. Can more about Yeah, they've you know, 159 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: the indycas series is is doing a fantastic job. You know, 160 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: I think with the unified arrow kits and and you know, 161 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: streamlining a lot of things. You know, the partners with 162 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, Honda and Chevrolet and and you know, signing 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: a new deal with with NBC for for TV next year. 164 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: So you know, everything's moving in the right direction, which 165 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: is which is fantastic. And to be honest, then it's 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: it's the best racing in the world. You know. It's uh, 167 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: so many different disciplines, you know, short track, oval, superspeedways 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: like the end up has five hundred road courses, street courses, 169 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: and people, man, as soon as they tune in, they 170 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: love it. So how do you hook my son? He's 171 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: nine years old, he's an American. Yeah, he's not into 172 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: it now. You know, he knows the sticking ball, you 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: know all about that, of course, how do you hook 174 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: that young kid in the market that has more sports 175 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: sponsorship than anywhere else in the world. For me, uh, 176 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: for me personally, it was when I first got to 177 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: drive a go cut like you know, it was I 178 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: was at the age of seven, putting it on me. 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: It's my fault, yes, it's your fault. Yeah, you have 180 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: to get your wallet out. But the thing that got 181 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: me I went and watched my my cousins race go 182 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: carts at the age of seven, and at the end 183 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: of the day they kind of have a like a 184 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: have a go period. And I jumped in this car 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: and just the adrenaline and the rush and you know, 186 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: you're driving this this machine around that goes, you know, 187 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: very fast. Even at that age, I think they're do 188 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: you know fifty sixty miles now, um, you know, but 189 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: controlling something like that was was what clicked me. But 190 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: previous to that, you know, I've done and gone to 191 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: many races with my dad, and you know, I think 192 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of people what you see on TV 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't really do it justice. You know, you don't 194 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: that sounds to smell at You need to get people 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: in the rink to experience just how bright it is 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: that the force of the hits, the sound of the game, 197 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: the smell. How you can't appreciate it on TV. I 198 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: totally agree. And I was the same with hockey until 199 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: I went to to you know, a game and uh, yeah, 200 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: it's it is that in the end of this, you know, 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: it's the same way. You know, it's still the largest 202 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: single day sporting event in the world, with almost four 203 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: thousand people in one spot, and you know, cars going 204 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: qualifying over two hudred fifty miles an hour. And you 205 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: can't you don't, you don't feel that. On TV, they'll 206 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: tell you how I taught my son. Was my oldest son. 207 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: You took the priviest out and did what? Yeah, because 208 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I I mean I was into racing when I was like, 209 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: yeah big and I would watch on TV the races. 210 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: So when he became of like three or four years 211 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: old and we're trying, I'm trying to teach him out 212 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: to count, I said, all right, we're gonna watch his NASCAR, right, 213 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: I said. And when this was a moment when I 214 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: literally had tears in my eyes, I said, what number 215 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: is that? He said forty three, and he's talking about 216 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: Richard Pettis. No, I'm like, and that's how this prospective 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: happy bar music, that's how it started. And and and 218 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: he is still in Detroit. I'm detroitter. He's still in Detroit. 219 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: So when you guys race in the Detroit ground at 220 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: bell Aisle, I raced it bell Aisle. But that yeah, 221 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: well the police told me something, but but yeah, I 222 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: at Belle Aisle. I mean that that was just an 223 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: old stumping ground. But you guys, it's a unique race 224 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: at Belle Aisle and he didn't tell the people about 225 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: that because it's a two day event. Yeah it is, 226 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: what do they call it the Jewel in Detroit. So 227 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: it's a full length race both Saturday and Sunday, which 228 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: one is gruling for the drivers, but it's crazy for 229 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: the teams, you know, to to prepare these cars after 230 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: you do a full length race, they're gonna be rebuilt, 231 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know, plenty of things changed out on them, 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: and the preparation long hours. But yeah, I love you 233 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: love Detroit Motor City racing there is is fantastic and 234 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: you get you know, the bank for your buck there, man, 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: you get two races on one weekend. It's the only 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: double heater that we do throughout the whole season. Uh. 237 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: And the hard part too as it comes right on 238 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: the back side of the Innapolis five, our biggest race 239 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: where you know we've we've been there for almost three 240 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: weeks too, so it's um, it's a it's a great 241 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: format and definitely a fun weekend. That's what my son 242 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: is saying, is that one reason why IndyCar racing is 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: really taking off in popularity once again. Is because the 244 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: drivers get out there and they meet the fans. He 245 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: loves it going out there. He met you, he met 246 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: so many other people out there, and the fans enjoying that. 247 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: It is very open. There's a lot of access and 248 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: and you know, I think you know a lot of 249 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: sports you don't really get to meet the players or 250 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, every weekend, you know, the Indy Car Series 251 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: has you know, autograph sessions where you know everybody can 252 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: meet and then you know, the drivers just walking around 253 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: the pad really enjoy it. Or is it just part 254 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: of the business. Uh, it depends, you know, No, it's 255 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: it's a huge, hugely important part of what we do. 256 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: You know, without fans, without sponsors, you've got nothing right 257 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: And I get to do something that I love immenseally. 258 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: It's something that you know, I've always dreamt of doing 259 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: and without those you know, those factors, it's just not possible. 260 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: But um, you know there's times where on race day, 261 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, right before the race, and you've got to 262 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: do something like that, it can be tough, right because 263 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: you're you're so focused on what's ahead. Um, it's sometimes 264 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: it's not the easiest to interact. But no, you know, 265 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a huge part of our sport and 266 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: we're very lucky to have so many great fans. What 267 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: are your sponsors to ask of you these days? Do 268 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: they want more return on their investment? Yeah, of course. 269 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, I think when I first got into the business, 270 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: it was it was definitely not as many appearance days. Um, 271 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: it was you know, more of moldenners and you know 272 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: with maybe the top tier of the company, whereas now 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's they activate a lot, you know, whether 274 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: it's social media, whether it's you know, many dinners throughout 275 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: the season, or you know, whether it's big corporate events. Um. 276 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: And that's you know, for with PNC banking and ant 277 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: T data, you know there's a lot of activation. You 278 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: have to do that now, you know, you can't just 279 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: do the minimal, uh situation and uh you know, even 280 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: dating back to when we had Target for twenty seven 281 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: years at the team, they did a very good job 282 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: of making sure that they got the most out of it. 283 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Even me and I'm a Neil fight for some reason. 284 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I know, and it's not 285 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: because I looked it up. For some reason I have 286 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: an association the Target with chip Ganassi. Like, somebody did 287 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: a good job along the way for me to know 288 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: that chip Ganassi and Target were married. I wonder, I 289 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: wonder what it was. I don't know what it was, 290 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: but somebody did a good job. Where is the sponsors 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: of tomorrow? I always think the technology companies should be involved. 292 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Is there a push to get tech involved of inc? 293 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: There is that, you know, we we are in the 294 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: business of technology, right They're always pushing the forefront, whether 295 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: it's safety or you know, electronics. Um, you know the tires, 296 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, so you have the general brands, right, you know, 297 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: for us, we're a Honda team. We drive on fire 298 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Stone tires. Um. You know the technology, Uh you know 299 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: of partners you know, whether it's Microsoft or anything like 300 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: that that help you know the platforms that we use. Um, yeah, 301 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know the there's a wide range of uh, 302 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: you know sponsors that we have right now. Um. You 303 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: know that go from you know panc Bank to you know, 304 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: Verizon Wireless. Um. You know, at least I'm a customer 305 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: of one of them. Yeah, there you go, Thank you, 306 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: thank you. Are you're going to switch to panc Banks? 307 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Moved to New Jersey. I do there's not enough Chase 308 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Banks in New Jersey right now. Chase, But maybe I 309 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: need a little PNC in my life. I've got PNC 310 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: the world. Who we're talking to, Yes, I am Scott 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Dixon and we need to add this. And this is 312 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: something I wanted. You won the Indianapolis five and two 313 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: thousand eight and you want it from the pole. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: one of I don't know how many people have done that. 315 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: It's a small group. I think, you know, I don't 316 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: know that you stand out. But I gave you a 317 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: non answer there, but you always gonna sound good. I'll 318 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: say it was. Let me ask the neal question, why 319 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: is it hard to win from the poll? Um? Well, 320 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: in reality it shouldn't be. It should be the easiest 321 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: place to win from. But no, I think you know, 322 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: stats wise, you know, over what a hundred plus years, 323 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't normally work out there where I don't know why. Um, 324 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, you you've I think there's you know, like 325 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: the ninth starting possession or the fifteen has has a 326 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: bit of probability or something. You know, it's just what's 327 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: your preference and why the poll? We've got a lead 328 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: from there man. So yeah, it's uh, definitely makes it easier. 329 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: But but it's such a long race, right, Like it's 330 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: a three and a half four hour race, five and 331 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: miles um. So many things can happen, you know, whether 332 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: it's mechanical or you know, last year I had a 333 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: massive crash that I remember that there's a big one, 334 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: so likely to walk away from that one? Do you 335 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: follow what's going on in other kinds of racing like 336 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Chase Carry takes over F one and it's really going 337 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: to be sort of a media centric product. It's this 338 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: means everything I'm holding up myself on. You know, this 339 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: is the way people are following everything these days. How 340 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: does Indie use the mobile to not only attract new fans, 341 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: but to captivate the ones they already had? What's coming? Yeah, 342 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: And I don't know if there is straight up answers 343 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: for that. Think that's when you need answers. Yeah, I 344 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: mean no, no, no, But I'm saying I'm saying in 345 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: sports in general, I don't think anybody has the fix 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: for you know, Formula one by all means doesn't, and 347 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: Liberty doesn't either. You know, they're they're throwing a lot 348 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: of things you can see right now, They're throwing a 349 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: lot of things out there to see, you know, not 350 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: what really sticks. I'm sure there's a you know, a 351 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: big strategy behind it. But yeah, you know you've got 352 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: all the platforms of you know, Instagram, Twitter, um, you 353 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: know the Verizon IndyCar mobile app that you can get 354 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: all the information, you can watch the races on there. 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: You can watch you know, different in cars. So they 356 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: are doing similar things on on on those levels, which 357 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: I think is the general answer right now. Um, but 358 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely sure there's there's you know, many 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: more down the road. Yes, you know, you know what 360 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to see. I'd like to see a mirror 361 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: of the dashboard if I chose on my on my iPad. 362 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: And I'd like to have some body sensors on the drivers. 363 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: So what's the hard the body temperature? Tell me little 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: what all the biomechanics. I think that stuff fans think 365 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: is really cool and the one who adapts and really 366 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: embraces it first going to have a huge event. So 367 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: there has been some of that, um, and I don't 368 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: know why it hasn't stuck. I don't know whether people 369 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: haven't really um, you know, really caught onto that or 370 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: if it's something that they've they've done. But yeah, IndyCar 371 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: has done that. Um, not not for for the whole group, 372 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: but you know two or three drivers. UM, I know 373 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: even dating back probably three or four years ago, that 374 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: that that was definitely a thing. And it's you know, 375 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: the current technology, it's definitely something that's the seeing the 376 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: dash thing is kind of a little bit more difficult. Um. 377 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: IndyCar and and NBC introduced this year that the helmet 378 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: cam that that that's it's right there, so you actually 379 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: do get the view of the driver, which is really cool. UM. 380 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: And I think they need to do it for the 381 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: whole field. You know, right now it's only three or 382 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: four drivers. One thing that about the safety of the car. 383 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: And F one has this and we're talking about this earlier. 384 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: They have the halo. Now are you guys thinking about 385 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: the halo in indiegars? So the halo for us wasn't 386 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: an easy fix and and and the simple answer is 387 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: because we race on ovals very high banked. You know, 388 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: you kind of look through the corner up and around 389 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: and the halo would be right in your views. So 390 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: the fix for Indy Cow which they started testing. I 391 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: was the first first person to run it at the 392 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: start of this year preseason testing at Phoenix, which is 393 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: called the Aero Screen, And uh, it's in partnership with 394 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: ppg um. You know, they've basically used you know, something 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: that they built for fighter pilots if sixteen, you know 396 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: it was, it was one of the canopies for that 397 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: and that's the using that material. So right now they 398 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: tested the Indianapolis right before the fire. It will go 399 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: into more offseason testing on road courses to to try 400 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and uh make sure that you know the safety side 401 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and the way it's you know, fixed to the car. Um. 402 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things they need to 403 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: get through yet, but I I see it in the 404 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: very near future. Now I should explain what the halo 405 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: is people not familiar with racing. It's kind of like 406 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: a roll bar. Now, yes, the car has had roll 407 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: bars before who were behind the driver, but this is 408 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: in front of the driver and it's kind of like 409 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: a horse shoe and it starts from like where the 410 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: windscreen would be and it rolls all the way back. Now, 411 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: what that does is that that protects the driver, not 412 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: only obviously from a rollover, but if there's debris coming 413 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: towards the car, it could catch that debris. Yeah, absolutely, 414 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: and that's you know what we've seen. You know, I 415 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: think Massa when you know it was probably one of 416 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: the bigger things in Formula one when he had that 417 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: piece of spring that hit him in the head um. 418 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: You know, luckily he was okay when you know he's 419 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: had to go through you know a bunch of rehab 420 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. But but you know, those that's the problem 421 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: that a lot of people see what the halo is 422 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: that it still has those very big open areas, whereas 423 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: with you know, the IndyCar version of the aero screen, 424 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: it is a whole screen that protects any of those 425 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: small things coming through. But you know, with that addition 426 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: to there's there's other fixes that need to be applied. 427 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Talking with Scott Dixon, he's the five time Indiecar champ 428 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: F one compared to Indie car racing. In fact, someone said, 429 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: what was it in Autosport magazine They voted to you 430 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: one of the fifty best drivers never to drive in 431 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: F one car and I started thinking, time out, you 432 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: may not, but I did my research too. Bar So 433 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: you did try it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's 434 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: what I was going at. It's like, well, wait, just 435 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: get there faster than you're doing. What talk about the 436 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: difference though that you think between one, well, you know, 437 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: you know the INDIECAS series. When my first joint it was, 438 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: it was a global sport. You know, we did racing Europe, 439 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: we racing Australasia, Japan, um, you know, and and you 440 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: know obviously that the close Ones, Canada, Mexico, so you know, 441 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: we we we did travel the world. Now it's mostly 442 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: just North American based. Um, you know, they do, they 443 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: do need to to start expanding, I think into other 444 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: countries again. But I guess that the simplest for me 445 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: is the budgets, you know, I think for that's the 446 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: best way to to to depict it. Um. You know, 447 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: with the Formula One team, you know, the smallest budget 448 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: is maybe a hundred and twenty million dollars to as 449 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: they do about twenty two. I think we do seventeen, 450 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, there's a few few differences there, um, 451 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, and they spend all the way up to 452 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: three dollars per per year for just two cars, whereas 453 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: an Indy Car budget you know, can range from twenty 454 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: to forty million, So it's uh, they have to make 455 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: every piece on the car, where ours mostly production pieces. 456 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: De Laura, you know, make the chassis, they make the suspension. Um. 457 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: You know, Honda supplies engine, GM supplies engine. You know, 458 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: manufacturers supply the gearboxes, whereas you know Formula one. Every 459 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: piece on one of those cars is made by that 460 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: company and it's replaced every year, you know, whereas ours 461 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: are are utilized, updated occasionally, and updated mostly for safety. 462 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Talking with Scott Dixon, he's the five time IndyCar champ, 463 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: and I know this question. You get it all the time. 464 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna sit like, oh, that's the question 465 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: you can do. Gee, what is it like to drive 466 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: a race car? Well, what is it like to drive 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: a race car? Because I have to imagine. I mean, 468 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: it's like it's a sensation thing that it's something that's 469 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: born in you that not everybody can. Yeah, it's uh, 470 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: you know the unfortunate part. You know that. Well, I 471 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: should start with the best part. The best part is 472 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: when you start, when you first start at the age 473 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: of seven or then you move to the next category 474 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: and you go through these junior categories. In the first 475 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: ten to twenty laps of getting to the bigger car 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: the most exciting time you're going to have, and then 477 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: you kind of get used to it. So you know, 478 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: I've been an IndyCar now for for seen eighteen plus years, 479 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: So you get used to the speed um to a 480 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: certain point. You know, we're still doing Indianapolis over two 481 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: fifty miles an hour going into turn one and qualifying, 482 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: and you know that the downside and the hard part 483 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of that is when you lose control, then you actually 484 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: get a huge sense of reality of how fast you're 485 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: going because the wall is going zero and when you 486 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: hit it it really hurts. So it's, um, have they 487 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: done enough in safety? I've I've always felt like if 488 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: you invest enough, I know this, some of the collapsible 489 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: walls or netting or something is should there be a 490 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: safe or is it possible track? Is that possible or 491 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: would it just cost too much? I'm not sure it's possible. 492 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that it's hard to fix everything. Um, 493 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think that the next biggest thing for 494 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: for racing in general is the catch fences. That's that's 495 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the one that's really causing a lot of injuries these days. Um. 496 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: You know, the safer barrier has been huge, the hands device, 497 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: the head and neck has been you know fantastic. The 498 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: seats that what the seats are made out of these days, 499 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: the side intrusion has been has been huge. But the 500 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: catch fence is bad. It's really bad. It catches the car. 501 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: It's good, you know, for for everybody that's behind it. Um, 502 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: but you know it can act like a bit of 503 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: a cheese grater because there's a carbon fiber or it's 504 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: a fiber material opposed to steal. It doesn't just slide 505 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: along it, you know, it actually gets caught on it 506 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: pretty heavily. So that is the next biggest thing. But 507 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, the infrastructure is you know, I don't know 508 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: how many ovals at least you've got in America, there's 509 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, probably fifty plus that you know, NASCAR and 510 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Indy Car utilize. Um. You know, look at the Indian 511 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: motor speed where you've got two and a half miles 512 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: of catching thing that you would have to try and 513 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: figure out what to replace it with. But that is 514 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: the next biggest thing that they're gonna have to focus on. 515 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Far before we wrap. I mean, I want to talk 516 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: about how a race car driver suffers just like us. 517 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: I wonder if more so trying to get out of 518 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: New York City on a Friday at four o'clock. Scott 519 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: was telling us last time it was here. I don't 520 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: know who the genius was a major schedule if they 521 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: had you going through the Lincoln Tunnel or the gw 522 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: Bridge Friday at four o'clock. What is that? I mean, 523 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: drive which it took you? What? Four hours? I'm sure 524 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I I fell asleep, I woke up. 525 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I was still in traffic. Luckily it's on driving to come. 526 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's that. That is not a good thing, 527 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: not a good thing. And I was glad it was 528 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: in the in the back seat. I was not driving. 529 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: Scott Dixon, My goodness, what a treat. I am so 530 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: happy you came in to talk with this. Congratulate lations 531 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: again five times into card champ and I hope you 532 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: have many more in the future and more Indie winds 533 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: all along the way. Thank you so much. Said what 534 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: was that thing? You said? That? What from Detroit the races? 535 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: That could be your new nickname, The Jewel you could 536 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: be the jeweler. I could jewel. Yeah, I'm sure of 537 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: my first wife call me. Let's not kid ourselves your takeaways. 538 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: We had an Indie car champion. The man won the 539 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: Indy five. He was sitting in this studio with us, 540 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: Holy smokes man. So many things about racing that people 541 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: do not understand. Oh, yes, you turn right, you're on 542 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: an oval. Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, in the 543 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: ind five hundred turn right for two hundred laps at 544 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: two hundred plus miles an hour. It turn right. I'll 545 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: turn left. I'm sorry you turned right. Dre in the 546 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: world was gonna say, you don't want to turn You 547 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Turn left, turn left, turn left, 548 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: don't turn right, turn left, turn right on the road course, 549 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: turn left. But I am impressed. I mean that he 550 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: is is the cutting edge of what these guys do 551 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: all seriousness. Um, it's a dangerous sport. We don't realize 552 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: what they go through until you see something catastrophic like 553 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: what happened earlier at Pocono and um, God bless I 554 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: salute him. Ten. When he said he was going down 555 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the first rate, I was like, oh, that's that's fast. 556 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: That's fast, all right, Medina, Let's see if Bar can 557 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: adapt to this. To know, Bar, I've been watching a 558 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of Congress recently. Okay, so I know it's my 559 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: turn for takeaway. But what I'm gonna do, because it's motorsports, 560 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to yield my time to you, more time 561 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: for you, more takeaway. Oh yeah, I get more techno 562 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: takeaway time. Okay, well, then here it is, I get 563 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: more takeaway time. So let me add on top of 564 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: that about how sponsorships will continue on in Indy car racing. 565 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: The future of Indy car racing is looking bright, and 566 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: I love it how the fans and the drivers can 567 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: meet together and talk. It's just simply it's it's not 568 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: like you know, well I'll come down, you know. You 569 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: know how it used to be where you was very 570 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: inaccessible to drivers. The drivers are very accessible to the fans. 571 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: And honestly believe this type of racing, as it goes along, 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: will become more popular. Well, I gotta say, certainly, he's 573 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: got seems to have the personality that's very fan friendly. 574 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: He seems to get it a few more athletes like 575 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: that across sport and you can get some fans for life. 576 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Can I add very handsome? Just throwing it out there. Okay, 577 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't one of my takeaways. But he's a good 578 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: looking guy. Okay, we can say that. Nice man, nice man. 579 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: You don't want to take it feels better to be 580 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: number one than number five. I'll wear a number because 581 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: of Mike. We have a chance to go for three 582 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: in a row. Good numbers are a good time. And 583 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: let's first started wearing the number. I would just happy 584 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: and file Floomberg Business of Sports, the number of the week. Alright, 585 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: time now for the number of the week. Now here's 586 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I this is very simple. This 587 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: is every time you say it, just really is this? 588 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: This is this is really a math question. All right? Okay, 589 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Now at Pocono, all right, let's say it's a fine 590 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: one thing about the Poconos, Pocono, Pocono's beautiful mountairy lodge. 591 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: Yes it is heart shaped tubs bar right, Alright, I 592 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say something, but I'm not at Pocono. All right. 593 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: Let's say it's a five mile race, all right? How 594 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: many left hand turns do they make? At? Can I 595 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: whip out my don't cheat? You cheating? How many? How 596 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: far is the race you're cheating? It's a five hundred 597 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: mile race? Alright, left hand turns? Four turns, No, four turns? Lax. 598 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: See That's that's what I'm getting at. It's like, you 599 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: have to know the configuration of a track. It's a triangle. 600 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: So didn't start this with its an easy one. That's 601 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's he wants me to know the 602 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: geometry of the Pocono races, the guy who knows no 603 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: about motors. I yielded my time because I know nothing. 604 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: It's a two and a half mile race track, five 605 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: hundred laps. That means you're going for left hand turns, 606 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: six hundred left hand turns. So which this one? I'd 607 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: love to ask the drivers this then? Which arm would 608 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: cramp first if they're driving? Is that they're left the 609 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: inside arm or the outs of the right? Which one 610 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: my hand is squeezing? Which one did they have more 611 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: problems with? I think I would think it would be 612 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the right. It could be When I drive, I do 613 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: a bad thing, I usually go one one arm the 614 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: left and I leaned the elbow on the like the window. 615 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: But so I my right hand is kind of reached 616 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: out where the gearshift would be, and I invariably the 617 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: right arm gets a cramp, So we're doing the Howard 618 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: Cunningham De Soto move. That that's Seinfeld, that's my move man. 619 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: How are we anyway? Yeah, you've been listening to the 620 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business of Sports. We hear each and every week 621 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, plus online for the podcast. You 622 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: can download it on several platforms. You can catch that Monday's, 623 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm Michael Barr on Twitter at Big 624 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Bar Sports Big Bar. I'm Scott sash Nick. You can 625 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at sshman. You're listening to Bloomberg 626 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Business of Sports and Bloomberg Radio around the world and 627 00:32:47,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: online and as a podcast on several platforms.