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Speaker 3: and I've seen the Bengals blow so many games and

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow captured it best, I think when talking with

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Speaker 5: a break we haven't gotten many of those this season,

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Speaker 3: When Joe Burrow and the Bengals were punting with what

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Speaker 3: And as great as Joe Burrow is and he's one

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Speaker 3: And I don't believe Zach Taylor is the right quarter

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Speaker 3: And I thought, you know what, I don't want them

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Speaker 5: Like I know where you're going.

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Speaker 5: And I think for a long time the excuse is personnel, Well,

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Speaker 3: This year, they've been more than healthy enough. He Burrow

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Speaker 1: Let's listen Rico punting for the third time. He's averaged

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Speaker 1: you believe it? It's rolling forward. The Cowboys may have

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Speaker 4: By Dallas oh Man.

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Speaker 3: Great call there by Dave Laughman, Dan Horde, Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: they gotta do. The Cowboys is not touched that ball,

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Speaker 5: I don't like to revel anybody's misfortune because I think

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Speaker 5: for him to get that moment, that was great for

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Speaker 4: You're talking about Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I know our friend spice Rack is

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor is getting propped up by these guys for

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Speaker 4: It's more that's more important to me.

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Speaker 3: Big picture, We're not going to take this time to

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Speaker 3: rest of the season and them winning this game. Sure

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Speaker 3: it's nice, their fans should enjoy it, but the bigger

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Speaker 3: how can a team with Trey Hendrickson have this bad

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Speaker 4: Like it makes no sense.

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson had four quick pressures tonight, seven pressures overall. The

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Speaker 3: the plays where they didn't have pressure, it was like

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Speaker 3: that's why they were able to move the ball. Michael

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Speaker 4: My god, is he an amazing player.

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Speaker 3: He had nine pressures in this game, six quick pressures,

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Speaker 4: So he is getting it done week after week.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you don't hold it too much against

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Speaker 3: that block punt that Nick I'm sure you saw on

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Speaker 4: You're a poor sport too.

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Speaker 3: I was like, PG moment, it's kind of true, like

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Speaker 3: talking about Demarvi and Overshan's knee injury. I think he

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Speaker 4: What do you think I mean?

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Speaker 5: First off, I would never use fuddyduddy to describe anybody,

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Speaker 5: that from the record. Now, I understand. I do understand

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Speaker 5: The season itself is bad, and now it was just

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Speaker 5: and blow it like that. I understand. I totally understand

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Speaker 5: why to be upset but as a teammate you kind

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Speaker 6: Of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they were game, you know edric Eric

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Speaker 3: Kendricks flying around. It's just disappointing because Overshown possibly has

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Speaker 3: a serious injury, just based on Michael Parson's reaction how

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Speaker 4: There's no.

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Speaker 3: Word on it, but for Parsons to be that emotional

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Speaker 3: and say Overshown doesn't deserve this, and he's battled through injuries,

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Speaker 4: On that on our next show.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Bebe their their rookie center also got got injured

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Speaker 3: reasons why I can't trust you Cowboys, Like Rico data

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Speaker 3: has been great the last month, and you were splitting

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Speaker 3: carries between him and Lipke and Deuce Vaughn and Zekiel

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Speaker 3: you actually give the ball the guy kind of everyone

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Speaker 3: he's solid. You do that to him for a month

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Speaker 3: and he's great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. He Actually he's reset his career high for a

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Speaker 5: He went over one hundred yards last week. He goes

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Speaker 5: even higher than that this week. Like it's He finishes

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Speaker 5: it's the Bengals defense, so it's a perfect time to

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Speaker 4: He wouldn't be doing that.

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Speaker 5: He wouldn't. He wouldn't. He hits the hole with burst.

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Speaker 5: It points to the Cowboys season in a nutshell. They're

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Speaker 5: all but I mean they're against the wall, they're basically done.

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Speaker 5: They now find a way. Oh, let's give it to him.

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Speaker 5: You know, enough times we're going to make a difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've probably spent too much time on this. Before

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Speaker 3: assuming Higgins is going to be gone because that's what

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Speaker 3: the Bengals do. They sometimes let great players leave, and

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Speaker 3: it's assumed that Chase is going to be the only

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Speaker 7: You know, those discussions are ongoing, and I'm confident that

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Speaker 3: Watched T Higgins get asked about it, and they were

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Speaker 3: it when I see it. But those comments make me

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Speaker 3: think there's a bigger chance than we thought. That Joe

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow putting a little more public pressure on his

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Speaker 5: That's if I played the lottery with this type of confidence,

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Speaker 5: the numbers. Yeah, okay, I don't know the Bengals the

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Speaker 3: I will make the point that Bengals fans are probably

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Speaker 5: But that's also one of the reasons why they probably

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Speaker 3: Their defense is expensive, Like they've been spending some cash

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Speaker 4: It makes it difficult.

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Speaker 3: in the league when he signs that next contract. He

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Speaker 3: has six more receptions than anyone in the NFL, one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty nine more yards than anyone in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and six more touchdowns receiving than anyone in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He has a great chance to do what Cooper Cup

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Speaker 3: did just a few years ago and get that triple crown,

442
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Speaker 3: which is which is pretty special.

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Speaker 5: That and the run after catchability is really what stood

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Speaker 5: up for me the most this year. This is a

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Speaker 5: guy who will catch a pass over the middle for

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Speaker 5: ten or twelve yards and is a threat to take

447
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Speaker 5: it sixty yards to the house every time. He's special

448
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Speaker 5: in that area, among many others.

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Speaker 3: If you take just his best four games of the season,

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Speaker 3: he has seven hundred and fifty yards and eight toiouns

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Speaker 3: four games. Yeah, outrageous. All right, let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 3: We are going to little news. We're gonna do our

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Speaker 3: Offensive Rookie of the Year later and we're gonna give

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Speaker 3: out our Players of the week right after this, back

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Speaker 3: on NFL Daily, we highlighted some AJ Brown comments on

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Speaker 3: the recap show Shook.

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Speaker 4: I thought they were notable. I thought they were from

458
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Speaker 4: a player that wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Do more to help his team and was frustrated with

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Speaker 3: the passing game. And it was all understandable on Monday.

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Speaker 3: It remains understandable, but it remained and now it is

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Speaker 3: a little bit more interesting of a story because of

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Speaker 3: what one of the teammates of both AJ Brown and

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurt said about it. This is courtesy of the

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Speaker 3: ninety four WIP Morning Show with the Camera and Richie.

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Speaker 3: It's Brandon Graham on his regular spot on that show.

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Speaker 4: Courtesy of Odyssey.

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Speaker 6: I know that one is trying, and I mean Elevin

469
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Speaker 6: could be a little better with how he respond to things.

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Speaker 6: And they was friends before this. It's like, man, but

471
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Speaker 6: things have changed, and I understand that because life happens.

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Speaker 6: But we got to it's the business side that we

473
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Speaker 6: have to make sure that we don't let the personal

474
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Speaker 6: get in the way of the business. And that's what

475
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Speaker 6: we got to do better as right now because we

476
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Speaker 6: know it's an issue. Everybody's seeing some things, but we

477
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Speaker 6: need to be able to talk talk things out as men.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, But we need to let

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Speaker 6: personal stuff go and let's get right for this game,

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Speaker 6: because man, it's like a lot of stuff. Most of

481
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Speaker 6: the time, it's just a conversation that just need to

482
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Speaker 6: be had. But the person with the problem got to

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Speaker 6: want to talk to the person other than others.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of talking around the matter without like

485
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Speaker 5: getting the specifics, but also alluding to some internal strife

486
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Speaker 5: and conflict between receiver and quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Look, he got right into it. My read on that

488
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Speaker 3: is Brandon Graham. I feel for him because he's going

489
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Speaker 3: to realize he opened up a can here. Was almost

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Speaker 3: assuming that the public understood a little bit more of

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Speaker 3: the subtext and what's going on in AJ Brown's statements

492
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Speaker 3: than we actually did. And when he when he mentions

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Speaker 3: that they you know, they have a friendship and you

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Speaker 3: can't let the personal get in the way.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, that's that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: And after him saying that, you you just start thinking

497
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Speaker 3: about it and there is frustration I think just on

498
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Speaker 3: a football level that is understandable just from watching the

499
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Speaker 3: film from AJ Brown specifically, and I would put them

500
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Speaker 3: on to Smith in this as well of Jalen Hurts

501
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Speaker 3: just not throwing the ball when it's there. That's like

502
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Speaker 3: that he's open enough and he's looking at him and

503
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Speaker 3: he's just not throwing it. So I'm taking away all

504
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Speaker 3: the personal stuff that he kind of opened up. That

505
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Speaker 3: adds a different window into this. But knowing that you

506
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Speaker 3: could see where some frustrations if you have some frustrations

507
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Speaker 3: on the personal side and then the football side that

508
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Speaker 3: I do think a close football watcher can see that

509
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Speaker 3: creates some issues. And by the way, it makes people

510
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Speaker 3: like me start thinking about how the way last season

511
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Speaker 3: ended and all the weird stuff that they never really

512
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Speaker 3: quite talked about what the issues were going on, and

513
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Speaker 3: they would talk around it. It's just like, oh man,

514
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Speaker 3: here we go again.

515
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And there was the whole like does aj Brown

516
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Speaker 5: want in a town or not issue as well that

517
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Speaker 5: they had to kind of clear up wins cover up

518
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Speaker 5: for a lot and let's you know, let's not beat

519
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Speaker 5: around the bush. The fact that this is an eleven

520
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Speaker 5: and two team that has been.

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Speaker 4: On an appence.

522
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Speaker 5: So they won here and they won Sunday, but the

523
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Speaker 5: receiver is not getting the ball enough to make him happy.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting. I thought the most interesting part was that

525
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Speaker 5: they were friends, Like they're not friends now, Like that

526
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Speaker 5: is concerning to me for a team that looks like

527
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Speaker 5: it's on its way to winning the division wants to

528
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Speaker 5: make a playoff push, Like what if that bubbles over

529
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Speaker 5: in the worst possible time in the playoffs, Because yeah,

530
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Speaker 5: he's not getting a lot of attention. Sa Kwon Barkley

531
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Speaker 5: is the star of the show right now, but at

532
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Speaker 5: one point they're gonna need you, and they've needed you

533
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Speaker 5: in stretches, and this is not encouraging for a team

534
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Speaker 5: that record wise should be very encouraged right now.

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Speaker 3: Now, Brandon Graham, just as we were, like late as

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Speaker 3: we're taping this, there was an update to a Tim

537
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Speaker 3: McManus at AESPN spoke with Graham who wanted to clarify

538
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Speaker 3: some of the statements and said, I made a mistake,

539
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Speaker 3: and I assumed it was something that it wasn't. I

540
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Speaker 3: just want to win so bad that I don't want

541
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Speaker 3: to use the media when we need to talk about

542
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Speaker 3: something and we can fix the problem ourselves. Ironic, I

543
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Speaker 3: didn't add to it in a good light, So that's

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Speaker 3: my bad.

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Speaker 5: Somebody in the pr department, got a hold of Brandon

546
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Speaker 5: Grammont said clean this up now.

547
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Speaker 3: Well or aj or Jalen just texted him and we're like,

548
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Speaker 3: what the hell man, because we don't know it could

549
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Speaker 3: be Brandon Graham's interpretation of the situation. What I would

550
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Speaker 3: say just is the chemistry on the field between Hurts

551
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Speaker 3: and his wide receivers could be more consistent, could be better.

552
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Speaker 4: And this just added a.

553
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Speaker 3: Whole stew for the Philadelphia media crew to dive into

554
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Speaker 3: for the next week or a month or season, depending

555
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Speaker 3: on how.

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Speaker 4: It goes off.

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Speaker 3: Sason right, speaking of how wide receivers you know, weren't

558
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Speaker 3: happy after Sunday's game. This is a sound from Garrett

559
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Speaker 3: Wilson after losing to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Losing period sucks, and you know, when you're up in

561
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, all of a sudden, it starts to

562
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Speaker 2: feel like you have a losing problem. It's like you

563
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Speaker 2: have like a a gene. So it's not like we're

564
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Speaker 2: just going out there and getting our butt be from

565
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Speaker 2: start to finish, you know, No, No, we have a

566
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Speaker 2: chance to go win the game. We're supposed to win

567
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Speaker 2: the games in our favor, and we're finding a way

568
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Speaker 2: to lose.

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Speaker 6: The game.

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Speaker 2: So it's just frustrating for sure.

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Speaker 4: O A losing gene is brutal.

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Speaker 3: And I bring this quote up because there was an

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Speaker 3: article about it from Zach Rosenblat in The Athletic which

574
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Speaker 3: said previously, there was some speculation among league source people

575
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Speaker 3: inside the Jets that thought Wilson might want to ask

576
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Speaker 3: out if things don't go well. And things have certainly

577
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: not go well. So teams were actually calling about Wilson

578
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Speaker 3: at the trade deadline, wondering if he's going to be

579
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Speaker 3: someone that would be available and just something to watch

580
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Speaker 3: going into the offseason. I can't imagine the Jets would

581
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Speaker 3: want to trade Garrett Wilson. If there's one part of

582
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Speaker 3: their offense that they feel great about, it should be him.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 5: But my read on this, I don't think it's that uncommon, actually,

585
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 5: because think about the program that Garret Wilson came from

586
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 5: out of Ohio State, the only loser gene and that

587
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 5: entire program as their head coach Ryan Day against Michigan. Otherwise,

588
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: all they do is win. All he knows is success. Yes,

589
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Speaker 5: I know, I'm gonna let my Ryan Day Vendett out

590
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: here and he's going to get to the NFL to

591
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Speaker 5: a team like the Jets, who can't shed that, who

592
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 5: haven't amble shed that in years, haven't been the playoffs

593
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Speaker 5: in years, And he plays hard, he risks it all.

594
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Speaker 5: He finally thinks he's going to get the quarterback in

595
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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. It's going to get him there. And they

596
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Speaker 5: continue to lose, and even in a game in which

597
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Speaker 5: they played well enough to win, they had offensive success

598
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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, that pressure mounts. It's a thing

599
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Speaker 5: that's part of your culture when you It's like those

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Speaker 5: losing teams that I think about the Browns, for example.

601
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Speaker 5: A year after year, you lose and lose and lose,

602
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Speaker 5: and when he gets tight, you think, how are we

603
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Speaker 5: going to blow it this time instead of let's go

604
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Speaker 5: win the football game, which is kind of what he said.

605
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Speaker 5: And ultimately it plays out like that because that's the

606
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Speaker 5: mentality you have, and it's so foreign to him. I

607
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: could totally understand his frustration, and I can understand if

608
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Speaker 5: he wanted out too.

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Speaker 4: Well, see if he pushes that.

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Speaker 3: But I just thought that that was one thing just

611
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Speaker 3: kind of put in the NFL Daily Listeners and you know,

612
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: think about it in mind. We'll see if it becomes

613
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Speaker 3: a bigger story. It is crazy how many times Garrett

614
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: Wilson has been opening Aaron Rodgers has missed him. Aaron

615
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers has not been consistent, He has not always been accurate.

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Speaker 3: His completion percentage over expected is actually the worst in

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Speaker 3: the NFL among starters other than Watson, and I'm forgetting,

618
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Speaker 3: but he was third to last, and it basically among

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Speaker 3: guys who had over one hundred and fifty, and I

620
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Speaker 3: swear half of those are to Garrett Wilson. Like it's

621
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Speaker 3: always Garrett Wilson that he misses, So maybe that's partly

622
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Speaker 3: what he's frustrated about. Let's fly through a bit of

623
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Speaker 3: news and talk a little offensive. Rookie of the Year

624
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Speaker 3: Derek Carr is going to be out multiple weeks, according

625
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Speaker 3: to Ian Rappaport, likely the season. The Saints are not

626
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Speaker 3: announcing who will start. Jake Hayner came in briefly for Carr,

627
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Speaker 3: so it could be Jake Hayner, it could be Spencer

628
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Speaker 3: ratt With the agenda, Yeah, well my guess it'll be

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Speaker 3: Both'll they'll start with Hayner and they'll n Rattler or

630
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Speaker 3: vice versa. Either way, it's not going to change our

631
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: lives too much, except if you're assigned to a Saints

632
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: game on Sundays. Jonathan brooks Uh tore his ACL again,

633
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Speaker 3: the Panthers rookie running back who was probably the number

634
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: one prospect at the position coming into the draft until

635
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: he tore his ACL at Texas and man, what a

636
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: what a disappointing turn events. You just hate to see this,

637
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Speaker 3: and you you always worry with these rookies that have

638
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: the you know, another quick injury, whether they rushed back,

639
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Speaker 3: even if it's not a rookie like Jalen Phillips. This

640
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: year seemed like he rushed back and then immediately got

641
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 3: hurt again with a different injury, and it's really disappointing

642
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Speaker 3: for a good runner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a barer because he had just gotten back

644
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Speaker 5: and he had just started to show some flashes of

645
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Speaker 5: you know and kind of proved why they took him

646
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Speaker 5: and why he was regarded so highly before he had

647
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Speaker 5: hurt his knee in his final season in college. And

648
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: this is the type of stuff that does happen from time.

649
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Speaker 5: It's it's super unfortunate because the one thing you don't

650
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Speaker 5: want to do is watch these things pile up. I

651
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: think about Deonta Foreman. When he came into the NFL,

652
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Speaker 5: he kind of experienced a similar, you know, turn of events.

653
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Speaker 5: He didn't come in injured, but he experienced injuries. And

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Speaker 5: now he's bounced around the NFL and had a promising

655
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Speaker 5: start to his career before he got hurt. I hope

656
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: the same is not true for Brooks, and it's it's

657
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: one of those negatives in what has been a really

658
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 5: kind of fun month or so for the Panthers. But

659
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: you'll have those.

660
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: No one's having more fun losing than the Panthers. There's

661
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: still three intensements like so close everywhere. The one disappointing

662
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: part of the Brooks injury on a on a bigger

663
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: picture level for the Panthers is they actually haven't gotten

664
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: a ton out of this rookie class.

665
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: League at is solid.

666
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: I think he has potential, You're not really sure which

667
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: direction he's gonna go. And they you know, Jatavian Sanders,

668
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: their fourth round tight end.

669
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Speaker 5: Looks like I love him. Yeah, he's solid.

670
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: But man, when you're a team like that, you need

671
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: to you need to really have some doubles and home

672
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: runs in your draft class. Maybe this this class will

673
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: turn into that, but disappointing for them. The Bucks got

674
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: some bad injury news. Antoine Winfield is out again with

675
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: maultaultiple weeks. Not for the season, but he's had an

676
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: injury plague season, part of the reason their their secondary

677
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: has not looked great. The Browns are sticking with Jamis

678
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: at least for another week. Kevin STEFANSI confirmed a O'Connell

679
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: he might not be out yet. We got the Raiders

680
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: in primetime next week and this Monday night doubleheader they got.

681
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: We got Raiders Falcons as one of the two games.

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Vikings Bears is the other one, So we might be

683
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: talking a little in O'Connell next week. Not Desmond Ritter,

684
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: we'll see. And the Chiefs are checking on DJ Humphries.

685
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: They're recently signed tackle got hurt right away. He's getting

686
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: an m MRI. And the Packers' safety Javon boulderd is

687
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: week to week. That is your quick update. I wanted

688
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: to fly through that shook because we got a talk

689
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: offensive Rookie of the Year ladder. I think this one

690
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: is fascinating. This might be the best offensive rookie class

691
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: in my lifetime.

692
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: I like to go three.

693
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't know man like the immediately I'm thinking, like,

694
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: who are the other good rookies on offense in twenty

695
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: twelve when it was you know, Luck, RG three, Russ

696
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: and Tannehill. You know, Tannehills down the list, but pretty

697
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: solid for a rookie quarterback. Like and that's just the

698
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: quarterbacks alone. I'm trying to think who else was part

699
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: of that class, like A. J.

700
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Speaker 2: Green.

701
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: Let's talk.

702
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Let's talk two thousand and twenty four. I'm gonna go

703
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: through it. You you you start out at five, and

704
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: then I'll go, well, let's go back from five.

705
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's I don't know if it's the best,

706
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: like you said, but it's definitely intriguing. And really it's

707
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: because there's like two tiers to this, and if we

708
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 5: start at the bottom the second tier, I could throw

709
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: like three different guys in here. In fact, I have

710
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 5: I think a total of six players that I've written

711
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 5: up here. Okay, and the receiver group specifically comparable numbers,

712
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: they're like really similar. You have like the guys like

713
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Lad McConkey and Molik neighbors numbers wise

714
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: very similar. But the guy that I have in front

715
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 5: of both of them. Is Brian Thomas, and I'm gonna

716
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 5: put him there fifth because he's playing in an offense

717
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: that has had like no stability. Trevor Lawrence has gotten

718
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 5: hurt a couple of times, and yet he's been able

719
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 5: to make big plays. But he almost pops up out

720
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 5: of nowhere. You forget he's there sometimes because they just

721
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: have an issue with getting the ball down the field.

722
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: But when he makes plays, man, it's special. Fifty four catches,

723
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: eight hundred and fifty one yards, six touchdowns. I would

724
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: put him in fifth just because he's done a little

725
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 5: bit better statistically, but like Neighbors and mccakey, both look

726
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: different from him too. Neighbors is a guy who've got

727
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 5: fed a ton of targets early with Daniel Jones, they've

728
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: gone through the quarterback carousel. He's disappeared at times. He

729
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: only has three touchdown catches. Two of them were in

730
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: the same game that was against the Browns, so it's

731
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: been very hit or missed. But at times he's single

732
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 5: handedly kept that offensive float. But I'm going to go

733
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: Thomas over him just because I like Neighbors more as

734
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 5: a player, but I like Thomas's production a little bit

735
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: more at five.

736
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so Thomas is in my top five as well.

737
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: I came up with eight names that were really strong

738
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: candidates to me, and that's it was. There was very

739
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: little separate or nine names, I should say, there was

740
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: very little separation.

741
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: For me between like four and nine on this list.

742
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, am I gonna am I being a homer to

743
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: put Drake May already number five?

744
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: I mean he's I feel it.

745
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: I heard in your voice right now, Actually, like, do

746
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 5: I am I wrong? It's there a little bit now

747
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 5: You're like, maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll wait four more weeks.

748
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, here's what I think. He's elevating a team

749
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: around him. I think if you just were saying who's

750
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: playing quarterback at a better level like him or Bo

751
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 3: Nix or Caleb, I think there's a pretty strong argument

752
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: to say Drake May's playing paying better.

753
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: All Right, it's gonna get interesting.

754
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna not put man. I changed my mind off.

755
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get really hipster here, and I'm actually doing

756
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: it off of people that I trust. People Ali Connelly

757
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: and John Ledyard have been banging this drum, Nate Tice.

758
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: I've talked to people inside of the league a little bit too.

759
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: They think Zach Fraser of the Steelers is one of

760
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: the eight best centers in the NFL right now. And

761
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: so I think, just because we have this platform too,

762
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: and we haven't mentioned Zach Fraser the whole freaking season,

763
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: that to come in. And I know he missed a

764
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: couple of games, but when he's been out there be

765
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: maybe the best player on an really improving offensive line

766
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: at a traditionally a very difficult position. Let's just give

767
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: him a little bit of love. He is number five

768
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: on my list. I will mention the guys that did

769
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: not make my top that I think deserve a lot

770
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: of mention is Neighbors. I can't believe Neighbors is not

771
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 3: on my list. And then Joe Alt I think deserves

772
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of love play has played really solid

773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: at tackle. And then Drake May And now now I'm

774
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 3: really in a tough bind, but yes, I'm putting Zach

775
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: Fraser there at number five.

776
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 5: I agree with the Fraser sentiment. Obviously, an offensive lineman

777
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 5: is not going to get offensive Rookie the Year consideration.

778
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: But here on show, we make the rules and we're

779
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: gonna make it for Yeah, I agree we.

780
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: Can though, like, why can't they? We we can do it.

781
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: The os will be listening to this.

782
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: You never like if people who have the articles and

783
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: you write an NFL dock, I can just start putting

784
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: it on.

785
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: Then maybe some people will put him four or five.

786
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right, grassroots campaign starts right here at

787
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: NFL Daily. Okay, cool, it's I think it actually points

788
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: to a really good comparison, at least an interesting comparison

789
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 5: how the Steelers have drafted the offensive line because Broder

790
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 5: Jones at tackle was a guy who I really liked

791
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: the combine who has not fared well, has not lived

792
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: up to expectation for the Steelers so far. Then they

793
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: come back and they double down. They say, we're gonna

794
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: invest the offensive line again, but we're gonna start inside out.

795
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 5: We're gonna sign Isaac sam Malow, We're gonna draft Zach Fraser,

796
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: We're gonna draft Mason McCormick. And suddenly you have an

797
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: offensive line that is working well enough for both Naji

798
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: Here and Jalen Woarn in smaller spurts to find success

799
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: and for Russell Wilson have time to throw. And that's

800
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: a big reason why they are where they are. I

801
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: think Fraser is a key part of that center. Is

802
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 5: really hard to come in and immediately find success. Usually

803
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: if you do, you're an elite talent. And I very

804
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: much agree with this. I just wish that offensive line

805
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 5: got more love.

806
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: There we go, so we're going to give it to it.

807
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: By the way, I said twenty twelve, and that was

808
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: what I was thinking because I thought about the quarterbacks,

809
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: But the rest of that class actually was a bit

810
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: of a disaster.

811
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: With Trent Richards and whatnot.

812
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: Two and eleven is the gold standard for draft classes

813
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: in the modern era, and as rookies, they were outrageous

814
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. But let's give you

815
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: some options of the players. Cam Newton one of the

816
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: best rookie quarterbacks of all time. Jason Kelcey immediately stepped

817
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 3: in and was at an extremely high level. Julio Jones

818
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: is in that class. Tyrone Smith came in great in

819
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: that class. Andy Dalton was a sneaky good rookie. He

820
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: had his buddy AJ Green on that same team. That

821
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: is a nice little rookie class. Randall Cobbs in the mix.

822
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: I might take that class over.

823
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was the green class.

824
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's defensively they're even better, but even offensively it's good.

825
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: All right, go to number four.

826
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 5: Number four. I this is where it gets crazy. And

827
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: this isn't biased, but I just love watching him play

828
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: and I love the run he's had recently, and he

829
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: also started as a non primary player. Bucky Irving for

830
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: the Buccaneers back thirty seven rushes, seven and thirty five

831
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: rushing yards, six touchdowns, has almost definitively taken control of

832
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: the lead back role. Now, he got hurt in Sunday's

833
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: game and Rashat White had to take over. But like,

834
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: he's a guy who has proven to be capable of

835
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: sifting his way through traffic, ripping off big runs. He's

836
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: been consistent. He's helped open up the entire Buccaneers offense,

837
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 5: starting from the backfield. They went into this draft knowing

838
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: they need to be better as a running team, and

839
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 5: they went and got Bucky Irving for that purpose, and

840
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 5: I think he's delivered so far. He's another guy that's

841
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 5: not gonna land on the radars of a lot of people,

842
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 5: but like to avoid the whole wide receiver logjam that

843
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 5: I encountered there and to avoid going quarterback too early.

844
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: I thought he's a nice little pick there. He's players

845
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: I've really enjoyed watching in that backfield, which is kind

846
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: of a three headed backfield. If you throw Sean Tucker

847
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: into the.

848
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: Mix, that's fun. I'm glad you put a player that

849
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't going through. Our lists are going to be

850
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: very different. I struggled with what to do with bow Knicks, Like,

851
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: in my heart, I'm trying to think of how to

852
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: give this award. In my heart, I believe Brian Thomas Junior,

853
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: for instance, is better at his position now than bo Nix's.

854
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: And it's not most Valuable Player.

855
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, quarterbacks get a little extra credit because their

856
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: positions more important, But are you excellent at what you

857
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: do now? It's not the most valuable rookie. So I

858
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: wrote down Knicks fourth because I'm afraid of the Broncos

859
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: fans if I don't list him at all. But as

860
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking it through, I don't really believe it, and

861
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: I got I gotta do what I believe. Shook, I'm

862
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 3: putting Brian Thomas in here.

863
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: Okay. I thought you're gonna go Drake May for a second.

864
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: Now, May give him four more games. People act like

865
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: he missed the whole season. He didn't miss that much.

866
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: I think May is playing playing at a great level.

867
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go Brian there. I'm going to go

868
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior here at the at the fourth spot.

869
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: This makes for great podcasting me changing my mind mid stream.

870
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: I just I just think as good as Nicks has been,

871
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: and he's getting better and better, the first month counts

872
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: when he was playing at a below average level, and

873
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: he's for a starting quarterback, and he's very, very good

874
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: for a rookie starting quarterback. But we don't have to

875
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: give the award to a quarterback just so, and we

876
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: have other options at quarterback anyways, in the in this class,

877
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: if you really want to go there, and so I

878
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: think Brian Thomas Junior is already a plus plus starting

879
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: wide receiver.

880
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: He's going to go number four for me? What what? What?

881
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: What's next?

882
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 6: For you?

883
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: I like that logic, and it kind of blows up

884
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: the logic that I already laid out there because I'm

885
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: putting Nicks third, and it's because of the way he's

886
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 5: played recently, and I think a lot of these season awards,

887
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: what you did later in the season ends up mattering

888
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 5: more than what you did earlier. I mean, look Lamar

889
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: last year, he closed his MVP season with the last

890
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 5: five weeks of the season, and because Dak Prescott blew

891
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: a tire in that game against Buffalo, obviously different awards,

892
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: but it just kind of speaks to the minds of voters.

893
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: Recncy matters, and you're the voter here.

894
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: You can decide whatever you want. I don't want you.

895
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: What I like is that he grew. He's grown within

896
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: you know, under Sean Payton's you know, oversight this season,

897
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 5: and they're they're using him in most games where he's best,

898
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: which is out in the perimeter. I think he's developing

899
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 5: as a decision maker. He's an athletic player who can

900
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 5: extend plays and pick up solid games on the ground

901
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: with his legs. I feel like he's just trending upward

902
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: and by the end of the season, like he threw

903
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: two picks in that Browns game, they still win that game.

904
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: He didn't look great, but he still looks good enough.

905
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: He was still spinning it at times. I think he's

906
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: just going to continue on this path to where by

907
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: the end of the season I don't think he's going

908
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 5: to enter the top two conversation here, but people are

909
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: going to look at him and say, bright future, he

910
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: can be the guy for them. And that's really all

911
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: I'm looking for at quarterbacks specifically, because it's so much

912
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 5: harder to be a really successful quarterback as a rookie

913
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 5: that it is at other positions. And he's been on

914
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: a good path for me, so I'm going there. Twenty

915
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 5: eight hundred passing yard, seventy to eight touchdown intercept ratio,

916
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 5: added three hundred four yards in the grounds, got four

917
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns, doing a little bit of everything. I like

918
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 5: him at three.

919
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: See TD in interception ratio. For a while on around

920
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: the NFL, I would just rail against passer rating and

921
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: just say it's useless, like we don't need to use

922
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: pass rate, And then I just stopped even ever mention it,

923
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: like that's the best way to just just ignore it.

924
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

925
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And now I'm getting there with TD to intercept ratio.

926
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: It could just I mean, I know that's basically what

927
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: informs the QB radio anyways, Like camleb Williams right now

928
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: has a great TD interception ratio sixteen to five and

929
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: anyone from Denver would get mad that Bo Nick's on this.

930
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: So it's like Caleb Williams is not on this list either.

931
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: His numbers are actually quite good, but it's it's partly

932
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: because of all the throws he's not making. That he's

933
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: holding the ball and taking those sacks and he's avoiding

934
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: mistakes and that's really important, but that does not an

935
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: offensive Rookie of the Year make. So I don't have

936
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: Nicks or Caleb Williams on my list, even though I

937
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: had Nicks written down and I just wasn't feeling it.

938
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: I have Lad McConkie three. I love it, talk about

939
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: getting better throughout the course of the season. I did

940
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: not think he could get as open on the outside

941
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: as often as he has. He's had to carry a

942
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: big load in that offense, and he's made me rethink

943
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: of whether he can be a true one, whatever that means.

944
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: We heard this conversation about Nico Collins for a minute too.

945
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: I don't think he's quite Nego Collins, but for him

946
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 3: to be this good as a rookie, as long as

947
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: he can stay healthy, you can keep getting better at

948
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: the NFL. That's what Nico Collins started to do. And

949
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: when they gave Nico Collins that contract last year, I

950
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: was like, well, he's definitely a top twenty twenty five

951
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: receiver in the NFL, and that was after his second year.

952
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: And I kind of think mcconkey's there right now, and

953
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: so why can't he keep getting better and evolve really

954
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: into a number one. He's better than I expected. I

955
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: think he's just having a fantastic rookie season and is

956
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: a plus plus starter for a team that's winning.

957
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: So McConkie gets my number three.

958
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: I love Lad McConkie.

959
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: He is.

960
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: In the last couple of years, I've had a couple

961
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 5: of really favorite receivers that weren't in that like elite

962
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 5: group that everybody was talking about at the combine two

963
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 5: years ago. Is Tank Dell. This year it's Ladd McConkey.

964
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: He was at Georgia forever, so if you follow college football,

965
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 5: you knew who he was. But I also actually I

966
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: thought he was going to make an impact pretty quickly

967
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: as long as he was in the right system. He's

968
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: not in the right system, but he has the right

969
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: quarterback and we saw how important he was to that

970
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 5: offense when they went out and played against the Chiefs

971
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 5: and they didn't have him and they had to turn

972
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 5: to Stone Smart to move the ball down the field.

973
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: He's fantastic. My comparison, though, talking about number one receivers,

974
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: I made infamously made a comment to a former colleague

975
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: who did not let me live it down over the

976
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 5: next four years. Terry McLaurin when he was a rookie

977
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: reminded me a lot of Ladd McConkey as a rookie.

978
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: Just the way that's a great colly is that they

979
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 5: made And I said, great number two. Don't know if

980
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 5: he could be a number one. Well, he's clearly a

981
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: number one. He's clearly a number one. Can Lad be

982
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 5: a number one? If if Terry McLaurin is the law,

983
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: then yes, he could be a number one.

984
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: I think that's a I think that's an awesome comp

985
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: I think they win in similar sorts of ways. I

986
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: do think they also could be in the same sort

987
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: of place in the NFL ecosystem.

988
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not going to be in.

989
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: That top five list, probably, but you really raised the

990
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: floor of what your passing game is going to be

991
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: and you're going to be a consistent top twenty receiver

992
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: throughout your career.

993
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 4: So we'll see, all right, what's you're up to. Number two.

994
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: Let's go number two. Jayden Daniels, a guy who I

995
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: thought was going to run away with the award. Earlier

996
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 5: in the season, they ran into some struggles offensively. Everybody

997
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 5: blamed Cliff Kingsbury or Jaden and daniels mysterious rib injury

998
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 5: or whatever it was. He's gotten back in track in

999
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: recent weeks. The numbers don't quite suggest it anymore because

1000
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: of those lulls. Twenty one hundred passing yards, you know,

1001
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: fifteen to six touchdown in interception ratio sounds a lot

1002
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 5: like bo Nix, But visually we know the difference that

1003
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 5: he makes in this offense. He is a guy who

1004
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: is very much capable of handling all the stresses and

1005
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 5: pressures of playing quarterback in the NFL. He's got another

1006
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: five hundred nine yards on the ground in six rushing touchdowns.

1007
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: He opens up that offense. He's going to be a

1008
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 5: star for years to come. And if they hadn't hit

1009
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: that lall, I think he'd be the leader in the

1010
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: clubhouse right now. But because they did, it's going to

1011
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 5: get interesting up there. But he's my clear number two.

1012
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: Let's us have our conversation about Jaden versus Brock Bowers,

1013
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: because that's our that's our top two. I have Jadan

1014
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: Daniels one. I have Bowers too. It was close. You

1015
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: clearly have Bowers one. I respect it the whole I

1016
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: want to count the whole season, and Jadan Daniels was

1017
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: a top five quarterback for about a third of the season. Man,

1018
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: that does hold a lot of weight for me. I

1019
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: know he took a step back and he could lose

1020
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: this award and in my rankings over the last month,

1021
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: but where we stand now, his EPA for play numbers

1022
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: are still fantastic, Like they're not that close with Nicks.

1023
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: His QBR is top five, Like that's not close with Knicks. No,

1024
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: and yeah, is he arguably the best player at his

1025
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: position in the league like Bowers. No, he's not there,

1026
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: but he's he's high enough where many he might be

1027
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: a pro bowler or something like that. And as a

1028
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, that's enough where I guess I just said

1029
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: I have a conservative streak in me. I'm giving it

1030
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: to Jayden over Brock. But I love that you have

1031
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: Brock number one.

1032
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: So convince me, well, yeah, because Jadeen his position kind

1033
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: of reminded me of CJ. Stratus. So CJ's finished stronger

1034
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 5: than Jaden has so far. Still have a month left,

1035
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: so we'll see. Brock Bowers, Greg, you have been the guy,

1036
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 5: yeah on the brock Bowers train.

1037
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 3: I am.

1038
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: I haven't like six weeks.

1039
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 5: I was so happy he got that primetime Black Friday

1040
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 5: game against the Chiefs that everybody America who had nothing

1041
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: better to do than to watch a Black Friday football

1042
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 5: game got an introduction to the kid from Georgia who

1043
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 5: everybody in college has been raving about for years do

1044
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 5: the same thing in the NFL. He's got eighty seven catches,

1045
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: nine hundred and thirty three receiving yards. He's first in

1046
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: the NFL in receptions, by the way, nine hundred threy

1047
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 5: three receiving yards, fourth in the NFL. It's got four touchdowns.

1048
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 5: He's third in yack. He's tenth in yack over expected.

1049
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: He's eleventh in receiving yards over expected. He's a tight

1050
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 5: end in an offense it's playing with eight and O'Connell, Gardner,

1051
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 5: Minshew Desmen, Ritter. They have no running game. He's doing

1052
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: incredible things. This guy is a fantastic player and he's

1053
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 5: gonna be around for a long time and you're gonna

1054
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 5: know his name if you don't know it by now.

1055
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 5: And I think despite all the challenges that he faces,

1056
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 5: he makes enough spectacular plays in a terrible offense that

1057
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 5: he just may win the Offensive Rookie of the Year award.

1058
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: I love it, and I'm with you. It really raises

1059
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: good questions about what is this award for if it's

1060
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: just for pure excellence at what you're asked to do.

1061
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: Bowers has a strong case because I think it's between

1062
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: him and kill as the two all as the All

1063
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Pro tight end. I might lean Kittle still because of

1064
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: the blocking and because Kittle's having a great season two

1065
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: catching the ball, but those are the two. So you're

1066
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: telling me he is a top two at his position

1067
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: as a rookie.

1068
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 4: That just doesn't It just doesn't happen. I'm sorry.

1069
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: That's that's future Hall of Famer type of stuff. Without

1070
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: getting you two over our skis, that's like, that's the

1071
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: type of stuff hall of famers, do you know what

1072
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I mean? And it doesn't happen too much at the

1073
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: tight end position. Yeah, you might have convinced me. I

1074
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 3: got four weeks left to think about it, and these

1075
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: are just written in light pencil that we can erase.

1076
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: I love it.

1077
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 3: You kind of did convince me, but commit Jayden right

1078
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: in pen Jayden's having a fantastic offensive rookie season as well.

1079
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: This is a great class. I stand by my statement.

1080
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: It's one of the best that we've seen. And it

1081
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: makes since because the first round and the early second

1082
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Speaker 3: round even of this draft were dominated by offensive players,

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Speaker 3: especially skill position players. But yeah, some of the linemen

1084
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: have turned into studs right away as well, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: get give them some love as well. Let's wrap it

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00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: up here with a little Captain's corner. It is time

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Speaker 3: for the Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan.

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Speaker 5: Get us going, Nick, All right, Well, we're gonna go

1089
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 5: to a guy who attracts a lot of attention in

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Speaker 5: the offseason year round three hundred and sixty five days.

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Speaker 5: But he hasn't had a great year this year, whether

1092
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: it's not having his quarterback, dealing with injuries, whatever, it is,

1093
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 5: just hasn't really quite been there. Like his fantasy managers

1094
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 5: won him two. But fantasy managers be damned. Because Tyreek

1095
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: Hill had ten catches for one hundred and fifteen yards

1096
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: and a touchdown, and the overtime went over the Jets.

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 5: And I know the overtime period was the Johnas Smith Show,

1098
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 5: but they got there in part because of Tyreek Hill.

1099
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 5: It made me really happy to see him break one

1100
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 5: hundred receiving yards and play a significant role in this

1101
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 5: offense when he hasn't been able to from this year.

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00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 5: Why we can unpack that later, but for one day,

1103
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: he was once again a captain for the Dolphins in

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00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: a must win game.

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Speaker 3: Well, why is it like your fantasy team it got you,

1106
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 3: like into the playoffs or something like that.

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Speaker 5: No, it's just why. No, I'm saying, why hasn't he

1108
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: played as big of a role off Who knows it's

1109
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 5: up and down?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna go with the obvious one. I

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00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: try to go through my notes and who would be

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Speaker 3: a fun guy to pick up all the games that

1113
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: I watched on Monday since we last talked, and I

1114
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: went through the Rams Bills game closer and I knew

1115
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: it's just one of It's just one of the best

1116
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver performances as great as Matthew Stafford was in

1117
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 3: that game, and I'm sure we're going to talk about

1118
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: him with Jordan rod Riege in the studio on Tuesday.

1119
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Speaker 3: Have of a fun show plan. As great as Stafford was,

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Speaker 3: that was a special wide receiver performance by Puka Nakua,

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Speaker 3: who in an age of just elite wide receiver play

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Speaker 3: the way aj Brown is playing this year when he

1123
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: has a chance to catch the ball, the way Jamar

1124
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: Chase is playing. Obviously, the run that Justin Jefferson is on,

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Speaker 3: Puka offers a different flavor and that game showed how

1126
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Speaker 3: much he's improved since his rookie year when he buy

1127
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: the numbers was the best rookie wide receiver in the

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00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: history of the sport. And when he's healthy, and he's

1129
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: healthy now, he belongs right there with those names. And

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Speaker 3: I think he's still getting that fifth round tax just

1131
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: a little bit that maybe you don't think of him

1132
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: like right at that level. But he's so unique. He

1133
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 3: has such good vision as a runner. Chase has this too,

1134
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: but they're both such fantastic runners in terms of setting

1135
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: up their blocks, and his hands and his body control,

1136
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: everything is just top top elite, and he's developed into

1137
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: an even better player than he was as a rookie,

1138
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 3: which I didn't think was possible, and I thought maybe

1139
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: he'd take a step back this year. It is the

1140
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Speaker 3: total opposite. So he is my Captain Morgan Captain of

1141
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: the Week.

1142
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 5: Credit Cooper Cup allowing him to throw up on his

1143
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: front lawn during off season workouts.

1144
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: For getting there. There you go.

1145
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 3: That was the Captain squarter presented by Captain Morgan. It's

1146
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Speaker 3: delicious and Chris perfect for game day with your friends.

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Speaker 4: Spice it up.

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Speaker 4: Please drink responsibly. That is it.

1150
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Speaker 3: Let's get out of here. We've honked too long on

1151
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: this Monday night. We got to get shook to, you know,

1152
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: go watch some games.

1153
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: What are you gonna watch? First?

1154
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: Shook play their music. We're gonna watch Chicago San Francisco.

1155
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: Why not Rock Purdy back on the horse, baby.

1156
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 3: This is always fun having Shook. We've done this every

1157
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: Monday night all season long. I've absolutely loved it. We've

1158
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: got three to go. We've got a doubleheader next week.

1159
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Speaker 3: That should be fun until Tuesday's show with Jordan and

1160
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 3: Colleen Wolf and then another little special guest. Yeah, When

1161
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: we're breaking down offensive Rookie of the Year, you know

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Speaker 3: football is back.