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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our number three. Joel Klatt five minutes.

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Speaker 1: What a great time to be alive. Harbon, La Harbon,

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Speaker 1: New York. Ten new NFL coaches, four already hired. Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Imagine saying this five years ago. I mean imagine saying

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Speaker 1: this five years ago. The Indiana Hoosiers sixteen to oh

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Speaker 1: beat Miami for the Natty last night and for the

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Speaker 1: first time, and I can recall watching a title game

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Speaker 1: in college football. To me, it felt fifty percent NFL

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Speaker 1: and I am absolutely here for it. College football rosters

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Speaker 1: are getting older, wiser. Miami's D line and O line

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Speaker 1: those are NFL bodies. Miami's got a defensive lineman about

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Speaker 1: to turn twenty five. Indiana, by design, is a roster

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Speaker 1: filled with mature twenty two and twenty three year olds,

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Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks three year starters. That's why Indiana played such

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Speaker 1: mistake free football. It's an older, smarter roster. What last

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Speaker 1: night allows is more sophisticated defenses. Miami's doing part Zone,

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Speaker 1: part Manda Man on the same play you've got. Indiana

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Speaker 1: never fumbles, no errant snaps, They don't throw interceptions, they

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Speaker 1: rarely get penalized. Defenses, Offenses much more sophisticated. That's why

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Speaker 1: by Sunday football has always been three times to four

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Speaker 1: times higher rated than college football. College football can be

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Speaker 1: regional and provincial and full of mistakes. It's rare that

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Speaker 1: you see a good college program with even decent special teams.

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Speaker 1: But college football has officially grown up, and last night

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Speaker 1: felt different. Three year starters at quarterback, players getting paid,

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Speaker 1: players staying in college longer. That's never a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: and the product on the field to me, reflects it.

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Speaker 1: Georgia won a national title in the early eighties and

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Speaker 1: completed one pass, no thank you, not interested. The SEC,

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Speaker 1: which has now fallen behind the Big ten. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: in Miami has always felt two ground and pound ole

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Speaker 1: miss is the new way to win. A lot of offense,

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Speaker 1: a lot of movement, some trickery and score points last night.

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Speaker 1: Three of Indiana's biggest plays came after Kurt Signetty timeouts.

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Speaker 1: Very NFL feeling. Fernando Mendoza on that TD run talked

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Speaker 1: about expecting his own seeing man to man, it was

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Speaker 1: a little of both, and like Andrew luck Elway, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen put his head down, got hammered and scored that touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Indiana to me is absolutely great for

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Speaker 1: college football. It's a football starved Midwest base alumni, huge

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Speaker 1: alumni that has always been in the shadow of an

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, a Michigan, a Penn State, a Wisconsin in

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Speaker 1: Iowa for football. To me, Indiana is a shining beacon

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Speaker 1: of hope. If you get the coach right, you got

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Speaker 1: a couple of well healed NIL boosters. You don't need

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Speaker 1: five star recruits. It'd be nice going forward to have some.

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Speaker 1: But suddenly you look around if you get the coach

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Speaker 1: why not us? The Indiana football story was not possible

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Speaker 1: pre portal. It was not possible pre nil. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: have done this. Now you got to get the coach right.

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Speaker 1: And Kurt Signetti is like Nick Saban without the charm

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Speaker 1: got neither. He is dead serious, he is all business.

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Speaker 1: And the truth is, Saban got funnier and more charming

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Speaker 1: after the rebuild was complete at Alabama. This is probably

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Speaker 1: right now, for this time, what the Hoosiers need. But

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Speaker 1: last night was also what college football needed. A new story,

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Speaker 1: sixteen to zero perfect. Indiana deserved every part of last night.

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Speaker 1: With this coach, the big boosters, they're going absolutely nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, are you the next Indiana? Why not Purdue?

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Speaker 1: Why not Michigan State? Why not Kentucky Football? Why not us?

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Speaker 1: Here's the humorless head coach, as brilliant as he is

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Speaker 3: People and a plan. Can't say enough about our senior

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Speaker 1: Taban didn't smile a lot in the first couple of

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Speaker 1: But that Joel Klatt, the voice of college football for Fox,

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Speaker 1: is joining us live, so I'll ask you the first

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Speaker 1: question I asked Urban rap A Bonnet. What is your

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Speaker 1: big takeaway on that game last night? Yeah, it's very

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Speaker 1: much in line with what you were just talking about.

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Speaker 1: era of inevitability even before the season in early September

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Speaker 1: And now that statement that you just made that up

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Speaker 1: that there needs to be some parameters. I totally understand that. However,

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Speaker 1: what it has led to is a golden era now

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Speaker 1: there's never been more parody. And now Indiana is winning

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Speaker 1: probably too close to it. Yeah, I said it felt

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Speaker 1: I always said, I love college football, but special teams

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Speaker 1: one more year. I think the offense have gotten more sophisticated.

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Speaker 1: We needed a playoff. We needed to play the players

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Speaker 1: the old. The rosters now by design are a little older.

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Speaker 1: And here's what it's done to college football is that

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Speaker 1: which is what college football was for a while, let's

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Speaker 1: And now there's more schematics involved and strategy involved in

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Speaker 1: So think about this. Miami is killing Indiana with their

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Speaker 1: They go to matchups That's what's NFL. They say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: on fourth down, on third down, and then Mendoza runs

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Speaker 1: I look at Miami, Joel I mean that they are

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Speaker 1: but Christi ball recruiting that county, that nil checkbook. I

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Speaker 1: shocked if they bought Duke's quarterback and we're back here

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Speaker 1: They're probably going to have to replace four offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: And so that's a huge feather in their cap. You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right about Notre Dame. And they're reloading with a

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Speaker 1: And they've got two wide receivers back. They went out

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Speaker 1: be very good. And here's what I'm about to record

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Speaker 1: Man? That was Yes, that was really good stuff. That

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer stop by. Nick Wright joined us in the

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Speaker 1: second hour, all sorts of stuff. So we uh Salla

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Speaker 4: Interesting situation developing in Philadelphia right now, Colin. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. This sounds crazy, But going

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Speaker 1: Eagles have a history of we don't like that performance,

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Speaker 1: You're out of here. So like Philadelphia, the downside to

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and there's not many. It is a pressure cooker

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Speaker 1: job to be a coordinator. Forget the head coach. Remember

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Speaker 1: that piece of NFL films with Bill Parcells is talking

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Speaker 1: to a young Andy Reid and he's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you did take the toughest place to coach in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: even worse than New York. It's a pressure cooker. So

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean the Boston media, they're boy

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Speaker 1: scouts compared to Philadelphia. So I think that if I

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Speaker 1: can get a four year job warm Weather down with

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Speaker 1: sala and and you know that's a college football market

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Speaker 1: as much as a that's very attractive to me. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: So I wonder do you think it's it's within reason

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Speaker 4: that Mike McDaniel would say, well, what's the game plan

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Speaker 4: with AJ Brown? What are you guys doing there? Because

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Speaker 4: he is a game breaker for them. You need a

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Speaker 4: stud wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: In this league. Devonte Smith's great, he's good.

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Speaker 4: But I don't you don't put him in the same

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Speaker 4: class as AJ Brown?

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Speaker 1: Do you listen? Aj comes with It's like DK Metcalf, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's great. It comes with stuff. Well.

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Speaker 4: AJ Brown's been the two Super Bowls, okay, really top receiver.

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Speaker 4: But what happens if you take the job. You're excited,

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Speaker 4: Oh I can do this, that and the other, and

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Speaker 4: then they trade AJ Brown in a minile.

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Speaker 1: You're if you're going to Philadelphia, you can't worry about

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Speaker 1: who's going to be there because Howie Roseman makes more

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Speaker 1: deals than anybody. He makes deals in season, out of season,

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Speaker 1: trade deadline.

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Speaker 4: Uncertainty not a sexy appealing aspect of the job, that's

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Speaker 4: for sure. And like you said, you mentioned Brown hurts.

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Speaker 4: What about Sirianni? I mean this, for all we know,

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Speaker 4: Sirianni's fired by Halloween if things go asideways. You love

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Speaker 4: the Giants, Washington's coming back. Dallas sounds like they're gonna

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Speaker 4: keep pickings in that offense, and they were plucky this year.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: I just there's a lot of uncertainty. And Colin, we've

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Speaker 4: both bounced around for jobs around the country, Like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know you want.

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Speaker 1: To go into something like this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that this is a great job, which

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Speaker 4: sounds insane.

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Speaker 1: It is the biggest pressure cooker in the league, not

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Speaker 1: just for head coach, but for coordinate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, speaking of OC's let's go to Kansas

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Speaker 4: City where quietly Matt Nagy no longer the OC and

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Speaker 4: KC they just kind of moved off of them. What's

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Speaker 4: that all about? And you know who they're talking about

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Speaker 4: bringing back Eric b Enemy?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: They Eric the Enemy seems to be the leading candidate.

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Speaker 4: Now some people not gonna name any names, we'll say, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Vienne Mey was with my homes. They are amazing early.

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Speaker 4: It's been well documented b Enemy was not calling plays

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Speaker 4: in Kansas City. That was Andy Reid. Okay, so we

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Speaker 4: don't know how much Bienemy did. Then he left left

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Speaker 4: the hen or the rooster of the case or whatever

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Speaker 4: you want to call it. And how do you do outside?

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Speaker 1: Terrible? Now he's coming back. I don't love this for

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Colin, But.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts on the Enemy potentially returning to Kansas City, Well.

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Speaker 1: I defended Matt Naggi. Matt Naggy, you know, want the

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Speaker 1: playoffs in Chicago with Mitch Trubisky and Aaron Rodgers and

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and Kirk Cousins were all in the division

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Speaker 1: in their primes, and he made it twice I think

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggy's more than capable. I'm sorry. I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: whoever gets Matt Naggy, You got a good coordinator. But

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Speaker 1: that's the weird part.

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Speaker 4: That's one of Andy Reid's guys, right, Well, Matt there

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Speaker 4: is letting him go.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt Naggy may have been Andy, thank you, I

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Speaker 1: got fired. Thanks for being a life preserver. But I

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Speaker 1: actually want some real responsibility. I want to call the plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if, by the way, if I Eagles hire him,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. Eagles higher him.

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Speaker 4: I'm done with the Eagles and they're like fifth on

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Speaker 4: my teams to root for list.

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Speaker 1: I don't want in one second what to be my coordinators, quarterbacks, coach.

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Speaker 4: Maybe off it's an analyst or something. He come on

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs with Mitch Trubisky. Hey buddy, that was

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Speaker 4: like six years ago. What have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Please? Years ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it was five years ago, whatever it was. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: let's move on.

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Speaker 1: Final story. This stinks in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Boy, the injuries are mounting, and Jimmy Butler last night

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Speaker 4: went down Colin with an ACL injury.

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Speaker 1: His season is over. He landed awkwardly.

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Speaker 4: After catching a pass, instantly grabbed his knee, could not

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Speaker 4: walk off on his own.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. He's in agony.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Bucket's one of my favorite players in the league.

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Speaker 4: Love this guy. This is just terrible. And Colin, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what you say about the Warriors, man, I

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Speaker 4: have a couple of hot takes on how to fix it.

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Speaker 1: It's over. It's definitely over over. I agree after he

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Speaker 1: won the title.

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Speaker 4: Like, I know people are wedded to Curry Draymond stuff,

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Speaker 4: but like, come on, it's one of.

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Speaker 1: The mantras of my career. Fall in love with your kids,

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Speaker 1: not your not your small forwards. Don't fall in love

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Speaker 1: with athletes, fall in love with your family. That this

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Speaker 1: whole thing about Steph and Draymon, and we can't move

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Speaker 1: and we got your fall in love with players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously you can't move Wemby for the next five years

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Speaker 1: or Cooper Flag. No, you don't want to move those guys.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is the danger of you know,

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Speaker 1: building around a star, falling in love with a player.

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Speaker 1: Now you're trapped, and now with Butler hurt, you're not

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Speaker 1: a playoff team.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think they're a play in team, do

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Speaker 4: you No, God, no, They're gonna get passed by somebody.

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Speaker 4: So we have a chart here. This is next season's Warriors, Collin.

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Speaker 4: Look at the ages of this court. It is If

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Speaker 4: I'm a Warriors fan, it's over. You guys had a

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Speaker 4: great decade run. Look at this Curry thirty seven, Butler

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Speaker 4: thirty six. And you know an ACL for a guy

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Speaker 4: thirty five, thirty six years old, he's not going to

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Speaker 4: be back next year until at least what January. Draymond

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Speaker 4: Green is old and he's good anymore. Kaminga and Kerr

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Speaker 4: are beefing. I mean, Kurr's got to basically reach out

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Speaker 4: the olive branch. Hey, I know, I know you want

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Speaker 4: to get traded like wine.

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Speaker 1: I need you wine age as well. NBA rosters do not.

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Speaker 1: It's a young, fast three and d spacing league. Warriors

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Speaker 1: are small, not athletic, old and now missing their second

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Speaker 1: best player.

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Speaker 4: So this is where it gets interesting. So you remember

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Speaker 4: the Lakers with Kobe Bryant, decided we don't want to

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Speaker 4: trade Kobe. We wanted to be a Laker forever. We'll

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Speaker 4: deal with the thirty wins, the twenty five wins they kept.

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Speaker 4: They held on to Kobe, didn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: In the playoffs, and they were in.

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Speaker 4: They were in the wilderness for like five years Colin

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Speaker 4: until Lebron saved them. They were drafting high, remember, and

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Speaker 4: none of it worked out, brandon Ingram D'Angel Russell. The

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Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors are headed to that unless they say, hey, Steph,

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Speaker 4: you know we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to go play somewhere else? We'll trade

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Speaker 1: you there.

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Speaker 4: Do you think there's any world where Curry's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I want to go play for a contender.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's on the table at all? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. No, should it be?

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Speaker 4: I mean I I do you want to win thirty

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Speaker 4: games every year if you're Steph Curry for the final

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Speaker 4: three years of your Noah, I wouldn't. Okay, So why

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Speaker 4: don't you say, sure, guys, trade.

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Speaker 1: Me to the East. I'll go to Charlotte, rebuild around

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Speaker 1: the Mellow. Charlotte's not my choice.

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Speaker 4: Well, it might be Steph Curry's choice. His dad played there,

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Speaker 4: the retiring his number, played college there.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere with good golf courses. Maybe it is Charlott's got

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Speaker 1: good golf. They got a good nucleus.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think Curry should consider being like guys,

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Speaker 4: just trade me and you can rebuild.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be around for that, do you?

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Speaker 1: I would ask for it? I mean I again, since

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Speaker 1: the title, he's been a good soldier, he's been loyal.

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Speaker 1: I just this, it's over, like it's done. J Mack

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Speaker 1: with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping that. It's

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Speaker 2: the Herd line.

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Speaker 1: Isn't an interesting that none of the fifteen highest bayed

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are left. I think that's we looked it up.

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Speaker 1: Stafford's just outside of that. So Bo Nix is in,

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Speaker 1: Drake May is in Team Friendly, Sam Darnold is in

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Speaker 1: It's Hurt.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 4: Fox College Troops Friday has a big ten rivalry tipping

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Speaker 4: off in primetime as Ohio State battles Yatzel, Lendeborg and

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Speaker 4: third rank Michigan Friday night, eight eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, he's not Andrew Luck or a John

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Speaker 1: Elway as a prospect, but there are similarities. Between Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck and Fernando Mendoza that touchdown run, it looked like

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Speaker 1: Luck and Elway. So I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 1: their final years and again at Stanford in Indiana, they're

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Speaker 1: playing with a lot more three star guys than four

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Speaker 1: and five star guys. They both had a great coach,

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Signetti that trusted them. Implicitly. Sorry to the

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Speaker 1: radio audience, but there's a lot of similarities here. Big

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Speaker 1: strong kids, light contact, really tough. Here was the coach

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Speaker 1: and the quarterback after last night's win.

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Speaker 3: Fernando, I know he's great at interviews and comes off

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Speaker 3: as the all American guy, but he is the heart

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Speaker 3: of a line when it comes to a competition. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that guy competes like warrior all season.

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Speaker 7: When we've you know, sometimes I've had these cookie cutter

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Speaker 7: responses in media, trained response where it's been like, oh,

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Speaker 7: onto the next game, onto the next play, and now

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Speaker 7: we did it.

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Speaker 1: We did it.

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Speaker 7: So at that point, I think it was only fitting

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Speaker 7: to kind of, you know, open the floodgates, per se,

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Speaker 7: break my stereotype.

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Speaker 1: So J Mack apparently has some picture. Signetti is a

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Speaker 1: fairly humorless guy, and that's probably what Indiana needed now.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've had very funny coaches. My friend Jerry DeNardo,

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Speaker 1: who I've been seeing the last couple of days. Jerry

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Speaker 1: was great. I remember when he took a Hoosier team

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Speaker 1: to Oregon and beat Oregon. There, Lee Corso the legend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've had some colorful characters, and Signetti's kind

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Speaker 1: of a you know, he's a Saban disciple, very intense.

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Speaker 1: Uh even the smile seem strained, fairly humorless.

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Speaker 4: But we have the pictures of him last night, yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: so uh obviously the emotional spectrum for Signetti last night

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Speaker 4: was incredible. So our staff put together screaming Signetti. Here

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Speaker 4: he is barking on the sideline that we have. Next up,

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Speaker 4: scowling Signetti.

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Speaker 1: If these are all real? These are these are not

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Speaker 1: AI GENERALTD. This is real?

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Speaker 4: Next up, sweaty Signetti. This guy really has become like

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Speaker 4: a bit of a legend. Colin, I love this guy.

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Speaker 4: Next up, we've got stare downet.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of this. He's really intended. Does

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Speaker 1: a lot of that to the officials as well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this one psychotic Signetti.

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Speaker 1: Signetti taking the.

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Speaker 4: Glasses off there then we've got signetti kind of looks

649
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Speaker 4: like your uh, your neighbor who's super nice but intense.

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Speaker 1: Usually him with about seven six minutes to go, blowing

651
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Speaker 1: out a team. Didn't do a lot of that last night. No, no,

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Speaker 1: definitely not.

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Speaker 4: Next up, you've got stupefied signetti.

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Speaker 1: Do we go for it on fourth down or not?

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Speaker 1: It just dumps ound it. Also, he was he and

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Speaker 1: I agreed with him. If you go look at Mendoza

657
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: one of the first series helmet to helmet by Miami.

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Speaker 1: No call like there was a couple of call. That

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Speaker 1: one was just outrageous. They were letting him play.

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Speaker 4: Next up, you got sassy signetti, the guy does it all.

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Speaker 1: Finally, stars and.

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Speaker 4: Stripes signetti as you saw there at the game, and

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Speaker 4: finally simply signatty yes with the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Think it has to go down as certainly the most unlikely.

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Speaker 1: First of all sixteen to no is you go back

666
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Speaker 1: to eighteen fifty something with Yale And then this is

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Speaker 1: another way the college football has become the NFL pay

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00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: getting played the transfer portals mostly free agency. Players are

669
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Speaker 1: getting older. We have a college football playoff. The regular

670
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Speaker 1: season is important, but not that important. And the other

671
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Speaker 1: thing is you're playing fifteen and sixteen games, and so

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Speaker 1: you have to build a roster. You can't just be,

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Speaker 1: you know, all offense. Indiana didn't have a star stud

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Speaker 1: of defense, but it was a really, really exceptional defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I give Miami a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: In the second half. Miami had almost three hundred yards.

677
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Speaker 1: That's a lot against Indiana. Ohio State did not move

678
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Speaker 1: the chains Ohio State Miami did in the second half.

679
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Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's I guess not all

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00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: new things are great. But in college the two sports

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Speaker 1: that have been in about a three year run. Think

682
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Speaker 1: about this. Baseball was on a ten to fifteen year downturn.

683
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Ratings and attendance, takeaway, defensive shift, pitch clock, extra ending,

684
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Speaker 1: start a guy at second base, make the bases bigger.

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00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Everything worked in baseball the changes. I watch more baseball

686
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: now over the last two years than I did for twenty.

687
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Speaker 1: College football pam portal playoff. Two sports that roll the

688
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: dice ticked off traditionalists are on an absolute heater. College

689
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: football and baseball the sport now And I was, you

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Speaker 1: know here, Air's Mark Cuban. By the way, after the Natty.

691
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Speaker 8: Just talking this last time about you know, and I

692
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 8: owe money in the light, it was like, we have

693
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Speaker 8: to stick to who we are. Every team, whether it's

694
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Speaker 8: pro or now college is broke, has to have an identity.

695
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Speaker 8: You have to understand how you want people to fit in.

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Speaker 2: You have to.

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Speaker 8: Understand how you use economics. And I think what's really said,

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Speaker 8: I you a part is we're not like, Okay, let's

699
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Speaker 8: raise as much as we can to pay everybody more.

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Speaker 8: It's more about how do we structure it, how do

701
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Speaker 8: we build a culture, how do we you know, set

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Speaker 8: roles so that when guys come in they're happy.

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Speaker 1: And that obviously was pregame, not postgame. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think the danger is for Indiana and I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think they're too smart to do this right. There's

706
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Speaker 1: a lot of money at Indiana. They've been football star forever.

707
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: It's just let's go get five star guys. That's not

708
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: what it is. USC tried to do that in the portal,

709
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: lsu Brian Kelly tried to do it in the portal,

710
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Speaker 1: and I think it's lazy. I think Brian Kelly wanted

711
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Speaker 1: to golf more than he wanted to recruit, and he

712
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Speaker 1: went too heavy in the portal. I think you have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain positions. Quarterback, go to the portal.

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Speaker 1: If you get a world class Sunday first round edge rusher,

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Speaker 1: go to the portal. There are very few great quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and edge rushers, dominant defensive lineman. You know, listen, if

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Speaker 1: you can go get if you can go steal a

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Speaker 1: left tackle from Ohio State or Michigan. Oh get it.

719
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Speaker 1: But the bottom line here is there are very few positions.

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Speaker 1: Even in the NFL. You got to check certain boxes.

721
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Speaker 1: In the NFL. You need a weapon, a left tackle,

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher, a quarterback, and hopefully a good coach.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to have a great linebacking corp, great

724
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Speaker 1: safety corps. I mean the rams special teams and corners

725
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Speaker 1: are not very good, and they could be the best

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Speaker 1: team in football. So here's Urban Meyer earlier on the

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Speaker 1: new age of college football.

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Speaker 5: College football arguably has never been better for a lot

729
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Speaker 5: of the reasons. You just said. Kids are grad I mean,

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Speaker 5: how about this, dad, I want to say, it's an

731
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Speaker 5: eighty percent jumping kids graduates playing college football. So they

732
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Speaker 5: are graduating it. It's a phenomenal story, and you're seeing

733
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Speaker 5: that you know who's gonna watch for Oregon next year.

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Speaker 5: They're going to follow the same template that the Wolverines did,

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Speaker 5: Ohio State did, and now Indiana did, where you're having

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Speaker 5: grown ass men, and you got grown men in that

737
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Speaker 5: locker room instead of the eight year you're counting on

738
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Speaker 5: you used to I used to count on seventeen, eighteen,

739
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Speaker 5: nineteen year olds.

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Speaker 1: These are twenty four year Yeah, And I think the

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Speaker 1: benefit is you, the fans. That game last night felt

742
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Speaker 1: a little like a pro football game, and so we've

743
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Speaker 1: added PanAm portal playoff and maturity of rosters. So I

744
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Speaker 1: just I couldn't say the last time I watched the

745
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Speaker 1: National Championship that I enjoyed more. You had everything, star quarterback,

746
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Speaker 1: underdog Miami's O and D line, Sunday bodies, a block kick,

747
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Speaker 1: Miami kind of physically starting to push Indiana around, the

748
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Speaker 1: bloody lit from Mendoza. You had really fascinating fourth down

749
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Speaker 1: conversions by Indiana in the second half. That game had everything,

750
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Speaker 1: and again it felt a little NFL to me. I

751
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Speaker 1: loved it. And you know, Indiana may not win another

752
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Speaker 1: National Championship, Okay, They're going to be good this and

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I mean, Indiana is not going to

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Speaker 1: become Georgia or Texas with recruiting. A big part of

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Speaker 1: this now sational championship is Mendoza. That game last night

756
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Speaker 1: they won because of Mendoza. The Penn State game on

757
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Speaker 1: the road, they won because of Mendoza, the Oregon game,

758
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Speaker 1: especially at Augsin they you know, they win because of Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: Mendoza Special. They're not going to become a four and

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Speaker 1: five star program. They'll get more four star guys and

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Speaker 1: Indiana's got a lot of smart people in that program,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna lose one of their coordinators, maybe both.

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Speaker 1: It's still kind of a rural, small Midwest town from

764
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Speaker 1: a state that doesn't have a lot of great high

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Speaker 1: school football players. There's still a big advantage being Texas

766
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Speaker 1: and Florida and Georgia and Miami and having thirty players

767
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: in your backyard that are Division one athletes. So this

768
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: may just be a magical season. But my guess is

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Speaker 1: Indiana will be a very consistent playoff team. I think

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Speaker 1: Ohio State will Notre Dame, will Miami, will Texas, Tech

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Speaker 1: Money will Texas will. You know. Everybody's got Lane Kiffin,

772
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Speaker 1: Peeling off multiple national championships. I don't. I mean they

773
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Speaker 1: got out recruited in the twenty twenty sixth class by

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Speaker 1: Miami and there are a lot of players in Daden

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Speaker 1: Broward County and Crystal Ball maybe the best recruiter in

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Speaker 1: the country. So so much good stuff. Urban Meyer, Nick Wright,

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt all crushed the three on the Tuesday. Tomorrow,

778
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Speaker 1: we should have a lot. We'll probably have three or

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Speaker 1: four more head coaches hired, I would guess tomorrow. John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh is official a New York Giant for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: First thing, First around the corner. On a Tuesday, Surry