1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: This is Quite Franklin with LeVar Errington. Each week, Penn 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: State head coach James Franklin and Penn State legend LeVar 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Arrington will discuss game strategy and other insights on Penn 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: State football. Quite Franklin with LeVar Arrington is now, what's up? 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's LeVar Arrington here. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: Welcome in to another exciting edition of Quite Franklin. I'm 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington and we got the coach, Coach Franklin. Check 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: him out. All right, We're gonna do a little quick 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: year in review, and then we're gonna talk a little 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: coaches and where they're at. Chip Kelly made a move 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: into the Big Ten after being in the Big Ten 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: as a head coach. 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Now o c in the Big Ten. I our host 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: that say, we'll talk about that. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Billy O'Brien was supposed to beat offense coordinator, the former 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: Hey coach of Penn State. He ends up going to 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Boston College to be the head coach. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: So we got all these different things that are taking place. 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: We'll see what Coach Franklin's opinion is about it. We're 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: going to get to the show right now. Coach, first off, 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 3: good to see you hope all as well. Hope winter conditioning, 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: hitting in the spring is going well for you. 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: Just give me a. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: Quick a quick over you know, oversight, or a quick 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: wrap up of what took place, you know for last year. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: What did you take from from last season? 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: Well, I think a couple of things. I think one 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: of the things that's that's interesting is I find it 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: remarkable that Drew Aller has gotten some criticism as a 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: first year starter into Big Ten. And I think he 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: threw twenty six touchdown passes and like two or three interceptions, 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: which I think if you asked any you know, quarterback 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: or or offensive coordinator in the country, if you had 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: those numbers, which it would you feel good about it 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: at the end of the season. So the numbers were 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: phenomenal from that standpoint. Obviously, between Drew and our offense, 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: we need to be better in the biggest moments. And 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 4: and that's why Andy Koltneki is here. It's a big 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: reason why he's here. You know, we played really good 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: football except really two games, and those two games. 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: Are going to define you at Penn State. I trust me. 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: I know that as well as anybody. 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: So that's why some of the decisions were made at 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: the end of the season to give us the best 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: chance to win those types of games. Defensively, you know, 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: at Penn State, from when you played here to now, 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: we continue to play really good defense. You know, I've 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: had three coordinators that have all had top ten defenses, 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: and now Tom Allen is in position to do something similar. 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: I needed to go get somebody that had the confidence 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: to follow a named Manny Diaz, that that arguably had 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: anywhere between the number one or number three ranked defense 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: and all of college football. Again, one of the challenges 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: is one and two were already in this conference. I 56 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: think that's a perfect illustration of the challenge of being 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: in the Big Ten and specifically the Big Ten East 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: before the new model hit us. And then, you know, 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: the last thing I would say is obviously the changes 60 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: in college football, whether it's the transfer portal, whether it's 61 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: the NIL, whether it's opt outs of bowl games and 62 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: what that means. That's why, you know, being able to 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: make the twelve game twelve team playoff is critical because 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: I really worry about what's going to happen to those 65 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: other bowl games based on what you see not just 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: at Penn State, but what you see nationwide. 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 5: How challenging that has really become. 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: All Right, you. 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Talked about coaches moving around, and I just I'm curious, 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: what were you What were your thoughts on Chip Kelly 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: leaving U c l A to go to Ohio State? 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: Like I thought it was interesting move because U c 73 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: l A Is now entering into the deep waters of 74 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: the Big Ten. 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: What what's your take on that? 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: Because I feel like Chip Kelly man for for better 77 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: or for words, whatever you think about him personally, dude's 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: a brilliant offensive mind. He knows how to call offenses, 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: he knows how to doubt stuff up. That's what he's 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: known for. I feel like it made Ohio State better, 81 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: like way better. What what's like? 82 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: What was your what was your first thoughts on it? Well? 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 4: I think, first of all, and let me say this, 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: and I don't want this to come off the wrong way, 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: but I just think what you're seeing in the new 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: nil world and the transfer portal world is the separation 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: of what people would argue or the haves and the 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: have nots are getting wider and wider and making those 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: jobs more and more challenging than they've ever been. In first, 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: some people aspects of the job that you didn't sign 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: up for, that you weren't interested in. So you see 92 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: coaches that are either going to the NFL or going 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: into coordinator roles because they don't want to deal with 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 4: those things. 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: They want to coach. 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: They want to coach college ball, and they want to 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: develop guys, and they want to develop offenses or defenses. 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: So we've had some conversations about some schools specifically not 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: only for you, but but also based on on your 100 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: son and and it was not shocking to me whatsoever. 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 4: I do think it was a really good hire for 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: for Ohio State. Obviously, not only from an offensive perspective, 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: but those. 104 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 5: Two have history. Chip was his coach in college at 105 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: New hampt. 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: I think if I remember correctly, So there's a lot 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: of reasons why I think it was it was a 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: good hire for them, but not surprising. You look what 109 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: happened at Boston College, you look what happened at UCLA. 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: I think you're going to see more and more of 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: this if it's the right opportunity. You worked with Billy 112 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: o at Maryland, right, Yeah. Me and Billy worked together 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: at the University of Maryland. We lived in the same neighborhood, 114 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: our wives were friends. I've known Billy for a long time, 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: got a ton of respect for him, talk to him 116 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: probably ten times before taking the Penn State job once 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 4: he left about what the challenges were, what the realities were, 118 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: what the strengths and weaknesses were before coming here. So 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: I had a pretty good understanding of that. Billy was 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: a big part of that. I think he's good to 121 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: a great job at Boston College. It's a great fit 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: for him and his family. 123 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: I never was a fan of Bill O'Brien, and I'm 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: not you know, I've always been one I shoot from 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: the hip. 126 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: I always have shot from the hip with you. 127 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of him because I knew he 128 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: was a user. And while I don't have a problem 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: with coaches or even at this point with players being opportunistic, 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: I ultimately feel like, if you're going to accept the challenge, 131 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: accept the challenge. 132 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: If you want to. 133 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: Accept the role, accept the role. And for me, I 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: look at it like with Chip Kelly, I would never 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: take a backwards step as a coach, like whether they 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: wanted me out or not, I'm not trying to beat 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to beat the wave and go take 138 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: an offense coordinator job somewhere else. 139 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: That's first and foremost. 140 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: That's if I'm speaking one hundred percent, that's a cowards way. 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: But that's just me talking, all right. 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Billy O'Brien came to Penn State and never recruited his 143 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: own class. He left you with beer cupboard, So of 144 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 3: course he could have told you what you was stepping into. 145 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: You were stepping into a place that had nothing, and 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: it had tradition, and it had a whole bunch of 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: people that were hurt and injured from an emotional standpoint, 148 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: and that's what he left you. I never liked the 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: hire because I knew he would leave. So I was 150 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: telling people, and I know you got to go do 151 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: do a call. But this is just this is I'd 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: love to hear your response to it. But I tell people, 153 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: you know, they're judging how they viewed James Franklin off 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: of your record against Michigan and Ohio State. I judge 155 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: James Franklin off of the man and the figure and 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: the stable, stable foundation that the man put in place 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: and led to success, led to players coming back. Because 158 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: people may have a short memory, nobody wanted to come 159 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: to Penn State. Frank, nobody wanted to come to Penn State. 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: The tradition had had taken a nosedive after everything that 161 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: took place, and Bill O'Brien left just as as Mighty 162 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: and all of those guys were leaving, the guys that 163 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: chose to stay and became legendary off of staying there, 164 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: Szortage and all those guys, they were leaving, and O'Brien 165 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: was gone with them. You come in. You have to 166 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: refill what's going on. 167 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: You have to. 168 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Rebuild, just super quickly, not making it about him, making 169 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: it about you and where you are right now. When 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: you see all of these coaches going every which direction 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: because you had an opportunity to go. People may not notice, 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: but we have personal conversations. I have conversations around around 173 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: everything that's going on. I know that there were some real, 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: real interesting places you could have left Penn State to go, 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: and you never left. You never left you, You never 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: turned your back. You never said, hey, y'all been wanting 177 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: me out of here anyway, I'm up out of here. 178 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: You didn't do that. How does that make you feel? 179 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: Sitting where you're seeing at right now, knowing that you 180 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: have stood in there, you have taken bullets, and yet 181 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: you continue to build a program that is going in 182 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: the right direction. Hell, you only got two games that 183 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: you have to figure out how to conquer alongside continuing 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 3: to win the games that you already had. 185 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: Like, what's your mindset on? 186 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 4: Well, I think to your point, LeVar, I think you're 187 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: a loyal guy, and I think you see my loyalty. 188 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: To Penn State. 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: But I'm also going to say my loyals my loyalties 190 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: to the players. You know, I love the guys, and 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: I believe when I'm a big part of the reason 192 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: why these guys choose Penn State. 193 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 5: That am I loyal to the university? 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 195 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: Am I loyal to the president, athletic director and the 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: board and the letterman and people like you. Yes, But 197 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm also loyal to those players in the locker room. 198 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: And that's probably the biggest thing for me. 199 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's been opportunities, there has been, but again, 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: that's probably the biggest thing for me. I had a 201 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: hard time leaving Vanderbilt, I really did, and I do 202 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: think we've built something special here. I know the program 203 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: is in a totally different stratosphere from from when. 204 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: I got here. 205 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 4: And although I want us to be better and we're 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: going to take the steps necessary to be better, I'm 207 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: also not going to apologize for having one of the 208 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: most consistent top ten programs in college football over the 209 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: last over the last ten years. 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 5: So I'm very very proud of that. 211 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: And you know, I understand some of the things you 212 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: say and in your perspective, the one thing I would say, 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: like you were talking about Chip, I don't know if 214 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Chip from his view and I can't speak for him, 215 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: but coaches like Chip, I don't know if they look 216 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: at it as they're taking a step back because a 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: lot of things that are occurring in college football and 218 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: even magnified at certain schools, that's not what they signed 219 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: up for. That's not the job that they signed up for. 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: They want to coach ball. They understood recruiting was a 221 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: part of that as well, they had signed up for 222 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 4: those things, but all the other things now that that 223 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: are a big part of college football, that's not what 224 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: they signed up for. So that's the challenge, and that's 225 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: why you're seeing more and more of these coaches make 226 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: these types of decisions because you know, LeVar, I mean 227 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: think about it. There's there's college kids that have transferred 228 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: four or five different schools. 229 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 5: Now, uh, it's a very. 230 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: Different college football than me and you signed up for 231 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: not only as players, but but also when I started coaching. 232 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: It's it's a very different college football. So I think 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: that's how some coaches would look at it. 234 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: Go get that big ten coaches called coach. We appreciate it. 235 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: I hope we can continue to have conversations through through 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: the spring. I mean, let's let's let's get a couple 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: more talk about what the future holds, because I would 238 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: love to talk about where you're at, what direction you're 239 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: going in the recruits, all that different stuff that's going on. 240 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: I'd love to keep, you know, having the conversation. So 241 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: but go have the conversation with the coaches. Appreciate you 242 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: coming on making times, Coach Franklin, everybody. 243 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Always love to talk online, but also appreciate our offline 244 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: conversations in need. 245 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 5: Next time you're in Talent's grab dinner. 246 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna do that. We're gonna do that. Se Appreciate 247 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: your coach, keep up the great work. Hey, listen to 248 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: all y'all out there. 249 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: I think the biggest message to take away from this 250 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: this episode in particular, is that having a coach that 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: is willing to endure while succeeding and working to succeed 252 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: at such a high level is not a given. It's 253 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: not a given that you can keep them. It's not 254 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: a given that they're they're willing to be motivated. These 255 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: contracts are so big these days. I would urge our community, 256 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: the Penn State community, to take two steps back, the 257 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: Penn State fans, the Penn State community, take two steps 258 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: back and think about it for one moment, at something 259 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: larger than just wins and losses on the football field. 260 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: Coaches win, coaches lose, players win, players lose. Us in 261 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: our lives, we win and sometimes we lose. But you 262 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: take those losses and you learn from them. You take 263 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: those wins and you learn from them. But you know 264 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: what I really, really really appreciate about James Franklin. He's 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,359 Speaker 3: a person first, He's an honest person, and he stands 266 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: in there. 267 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: He's never ran. I know some of these. 268 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: Opportunities that James Franklin had as a coach to go 269 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: to different places, and believe you me, yes, he would 270 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: have got the money, if not more, going to some 271 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: of these. There's two in particular that pop into my 272 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: head that I know for certain were on the table 273 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: for him, and were they bigger programs? 274 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: Debatable? 275 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Debatable meaning that you can't just say, hey, why would 276 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: you leave Penn State to go here? Now, if you 277 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: went there, he'd be like, yeah, that's a great move 278 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: for him. The man has stood in there. He has 279 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: not treated us as a stepping stone or being an 280 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: opportunist that would actually take a job and a month 281 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: into taking the job, take a job somewhere else. 282 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: Not that guy. He's not that guy. 283 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: He's not leaving us as the head coach to go 284 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: be somewhere else to be an offensive coordinator. 285 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: He's not that guy. So for two losses three this year, 286 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: now you know, bowl game is debatable. 287 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: But for two real losses Ohio State, Michigan, for two 288 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: losses to be on James Franklin's resume for the last 289 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: two seasons, Let's keep things in the proper perspective, my people, 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: Let's really keep things in the proper perspective, because what 291 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: that man is doing and what he has done is 292 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: made Penn State football in our Penn State community much 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: more relevant than what it possibly might have could have 294 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: would have been if we didn't have a man that 295 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: was prepared and willing to attack this situation that was 296 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: at hand. When Penn State had to go through, you know, 297 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: all of the drama and the penalties that we had 298 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: to go through, it was going to take a special 299 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: person to be able to get Penn State football out 300 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: of and through the situation that we found ourselves in. 301 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: James Franklin, and my estimation, has done excellent and a 302 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: tremendous job of doing just that right there on the 303 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: cusp of being a program that is contending for and 304 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: competing for getting into the playoff. Obviously the playoff it 305 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: expands this season, and I wouldn't be surprised if Penn 306 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,479 Speaker 3: State under even new leadership of offense coordinating and defensive coordinating, 307 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if Penn State is right 308 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: there in the mix. 309 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: So keep the faith Penn State, because we truly are 310 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: we are Penn State. All right. 311 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: That's just my little rant. That's my little end of 312 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: the season rant. What I've liked this season have been better. Absolutely, 313 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: I would have liked the season that ended better, been better. 314 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 3: Beat Ohio State or Michigan beat both of them get 315 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: to the college playoffs. See where we're at. But you 316 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: know what we heard coach talk about Drewler. Drew Aler 317 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: is our quarterback. Give him the ability to give give 318 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: him the space and give him the support he needs 319 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: to transition into that guy. He's our quarterback. We got 320 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: Nick Singleton, we got fat Man, you know, I mean, 321 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: we got we we we we got running backs, all right, 322 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: we got running backs. So for me, States, stay in 323 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: stay in line, like let's let's let's hold the line. 324 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: Guys. 325 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: It could be some really really cool opportunities and movements 326 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: coming in the near future for Penn State. Loyal people, 327 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: loyal fans. I mean, we've had a lot of great 328 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: opportunities to chair as well. I mean there's only been 329 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: two times, well through this past season, there's only been three. 330 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: Times where it ended where we weren't on top. Let's 331 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: just keep things in perspective, y'all. 332 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: All right, this LeVar Arrington, this is quite Franklin. 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