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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: Wrestling with Freddie. Not brand new, because we're taking you

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Speaker 1: back into the past. It's only these two weeks, so

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Speaker 1: don't worry, but we're going to go at one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite episodes from the past. I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: the show. Happy New Year to everybody, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week with brand new content, just like we

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Speaker 1: do every week. Un Wrestling with Freddy. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to WWF Wrestling with Freddy, and today it's

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Speaker 1: not storytime. We have a very special guest, someone who

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Speaker 1: I have been incredibly impressed with, someone who is doing

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Speaker 1: big things in the wrestling business, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into it. It's our first time talking. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea how this is going to go, so let's

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Speaker 1: start the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddy.

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Speaker 2: Wow stepping up for the mic, the host of Wrestling

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Speaker 2: with Freddie. Freddie prest Tune.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome AEW's m j F.

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Speaker 3: Hello, sir, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm the youngest and fastest rising star in the history

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Speaker 2: professional wrestling. My name is Maxwell Jacob Freeman. I'm also

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Speaker 2: the man who beat PG Punk twice in Chicago, and

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Speaker 2: I am very excited to get to talk to you today,

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Speaker 2: Freddy and really just put myself over for a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. I don't get to do it often.

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Speaker 1: You don't get nearly enough opportunities to speak about yourself.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I agree, I agree. You know I

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Speaker 2: always pull Tony Khan over the side, good friend of mine,

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Speaker 2: Tony billionaire, just throwing it out there, and I say, Tony,

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, that's all you can give me, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's it. That's the much. It's it's ridiculous. But Tony

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Speaker 2: understands whereas bread is buttered, I get more time every

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Speaker 2: week on a two hour show, and all the EXWWE

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Speaker 2: guys get you know, three to five.

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Speaker 1: A right listen man speaking of the fastest rising star.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't even scratched the surface of your accomplishments.

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Speaker 1: And I happen to think very highly of you. I

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Speaker 1: find the wrestling business and stand up comedy the two

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Speaker 1: hardest forms of entertainment in the history of entertainment. You're

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Speaker 1: getting an immediate response and an immediate reaction from the crowd.

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Speaker 1: They let you know real quick if they respect you

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Speaker 1: or if they do not. And what you've managed to do,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is establish yourself as one of the

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Speaker 1: building sort of foundation stones that this company AEW has become. Now,

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Speaker 1: there may have been a bedrock that it was laid

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Speaker 1: upon right with like a Chris Jericho someone like that

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Speaker 1: take it from the people who have their hands firmly

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Speaker 1: wrapped around it right now.

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Speaker 3: You have.

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Speaker 1: They unlocked the door and you decided to just literally

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Speaker 1: kick it off the hinge. E's not a knocker, Fred, No,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen you knock on a door.

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Speaker 3: And I was late to the party on you, man, And.

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Speaker 1: It's not shame, it's regret that I have for not

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Speaker 1: being hip to you and what you've managed to do.

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Speaker 1: And I loved listen your story and your experience with

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Speaker 1: CM Punker as you called IMPG Punk was nothing less

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Speaker 1: than perfect. And you made true on every promise that

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Speaker 1: the world of ae W is your oyster? I used

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Speaker 1: to always want to punch guys in the face who

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Speaker 1: said that. Now I'm saying it, I guess I'm old.

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Speaker 1: What is your plan for twenty twenty two? Where do

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Speaker 1: you see yourself going the show world domination?

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Speaker 2: Humbly, I said, and respectfully, here's the deal. Nothing you

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Speaker 2: said is inaccurate. I didn't come into this company with

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Speaker 2: Every time you see me on screen, I don't hit singles,

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Speaker 2: I don't hit doubles. Hell, I don't even hit home runs.

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Speaker 2: I only hit grand slams. I'm the king. I'm the

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Speaker 2: when I was when I was told that PG Punk

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Speaker 2: Everybody was talking like this is some god in wrestling

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Speaker 2: didn't fit well with me, because there's only one god

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Speaker 2: but I tried to be respectful. I tried to extend

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Speaker 2: but he's not capable of that because he's a bitch boy.

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Speaker 2: And as you saw, I then took him to tax

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Speaker 2: a dumpster fire, and I beat him twice. What's next, obviously,

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Speaker 2: is I'm going to become the aw world champion. PG

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Speaker 2: Punk wants to rematch, and that's cute, honestly. And once

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Speaker 2: I'm through with him, I'm gonna become the world champion.

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Speaker 2: And who knows, man, maybe I might take over Hollywood too,

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Speaker 2: just like you did back in what was it, the

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Speaker 2: seventies when were you on top?

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Speaker 1: It was a wee bit later my father took over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not that old, got it.

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Speaker 2: I was born in ninety six, so I get my

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Speaker 2: dates all mixed up because I'm not a dinosaur. So

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Speaker 2: enough with the yakatayak and the douche baggery coming out

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Speaker 2: of you. Let's how about we gets into getting some

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Speaker 2: questions and uh, and you send me my venmo after

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Speaker 2: we're done with this crappy little interview.

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Speaker 1: All artists are clay or stone or whichever now and

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Speaker 1: we like to use. Someone shapes us, someone molds us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: someone helps us become the man or the woman we

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Speaker 1: are when we become professionals. Who put this dog in you?

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Speaker 1: Or was it a moment and you did this by yourself?

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Speaker 1: But who put this this energy? Because I'm I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: he kills and you're not having that. So who helped

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Speaker 2: I feel like I was kind of born with a

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Speaker 2: a kid. You know, I was five foot nothing, Jewish kid.

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Speaker 2: Long Island and you're a Jew, you're expected to be

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Speaker 2: Why is it that I have to settle for kind

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Speaker 2: of being a normy like dork. It was just not

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Speaker 2: I had to while I did have a you know,

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Speaker 2: I had a hard time. My father gave me a

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Speaker 2: off of something that minuscule, but not me. You know,

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Speaker 2: I worked my ass off to get to the position

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Speaker 2: I'm in today. I was never handed anything, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's you know what's unfortunate. You know what I should

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Speaker 2: be handed my flowers. I don't know why people have

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Speaker 2: to wait for my memorial show to tell me how

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Speaker 2: I am right now? It's sad, Freddie, That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I think at the very next AEW Live show, you

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Speaker 1: should be showered with flowers. And I hope that the

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Speaker 1: people appreciate you enough to go out and purchase from

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Speaker 3: Roses, not daisies.

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Speaker 1: Not the grocery store ones once from an actual florist

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Speaker 1: set just for you. You should be like Prince Akim

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Speaker 1: from Coming to America.

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Speaker 2: Never seen it? When did that come out the seventy.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, no, it was probably you were negative. I

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Speaker 3: It's a really good movie. You should check it out.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like The Drizzling Shits nineteen ninety six. I think

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Speaker 1: I was on the cover of People magazine as like

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Speaker 2: It was thirty B movie rom coms around.

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Speaker 3: That those were a plus. Baby, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: That was a a A.

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Speaker 2: Plus understood, understood. But no, yeah, you're right. I just

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Speaker 2: here's the deal, Freddie, and not enough people talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I died today, I've already had

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest runs in the history of the business.

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Speaker 2: I've had some of the most memorable feuds and monumental

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Speaker 3: I do know John. He didn't like me very much,

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Speaker 2: But the thing that to understand is is that that's

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Speaker 2: So Roddy Piper. Roddy Piper, one of the greatest of

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Speaker 3: So let's let's talk about Piper, because I've heard a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of people mention your name with his people saying I've

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Speaker 3: But the one that clicks with me, and because I'm

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Speaker 1: And Piper had an ability to connect to people and

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Speaker 1: whether he wanted you to love him in the moment

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Speaker 3: The moment, he could get you to do it both times.

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Speaker 1: And it was that ability to communicate that helped him

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Speaker 1: transfer into movies. He was in a movie again that

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Speaker 1: was made before you were born, called They Live.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great cult sci fi movie. Sah, solid movie.

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Speaker 1: And it even allowed him to have the courage to

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Speaker 1: at the improv where my dad used to perform. You're

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Speaker 1: twenty five years old, if and what you said is

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Speaker 1: hard to argue because you already have accomplished so much,

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Speaker 1: and with each and every victory and opportunity you've had,

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Speaker 1: you've made the most of it. Let's say when you're

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Speaker 1: thirty five, you've won every world championship there is to win.

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Speaker 1: You've taken all those things. At thirty five years old,

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Speaker 3: Away and say I'm done, I'm going to Hollywood. I'm

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Speaker 2: Walk away way before then. You know, there's talk of

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Speaker 2: a bidding war. I don't know if you've heard fred word,

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Speaker 2: but there I have. And you know, these Fox execs

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Speaker 1: Your contract it's twenty twenty four, whatever year it is,

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Speaker 3: With Keith Keith David. Keith David was.

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Speaker 1: Piper's friend from they live, and so it was all

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Speaker 1: this sort of weird and cstuous crew. My dad died

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Speaker 1: when he was twenty two. Had an attitude like yours.

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Speaker 1: Nothing's going to stop me, but the one thing that

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Speaker 1: could was himself, and he was messed up on drugs

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Speaker 1: and that's the quickest way to screw up your path.

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Speaker 3: And to watch.

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Speaker 1: You, brother, listen, I'm not even supposed to say this,

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Speaker 1: but to me, you're the best heel working period and

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Speaker 1: I still think you're a face because I genuinely think

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Speaker 1: you're saving wrestling because you come at it with such

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Speaker 1: an honesty, an old school grit.

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Speaker 3: You don't care who's in your way.

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Speaker 1: They're an obstacle and they're going to get smashed the

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Speaker 1: same way they were when you were in high school

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Speaker 1: playing football, and the guy across from you may have

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Speaker 1: been bigger, or had or was told that they were

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Speaker 1: going to be the great, big, huge nfler, but on

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Speaker 1: that night they got put on their ass by you.

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Speaker 3: And I love you for that.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Am I allowed to say that? If I'm not you,

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting sick over here. But nothing you're

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Speaker 2: saying is inaccurate, you know, is it definitely over the top.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to take you out for dinner, Freddie.

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Speaker 2: I need to relax a little bit. You know, you

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Speaker 2: can ask around. This is a fuck. Everything that comes

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Speaker 2: out of my mouth is a shoot. But what you

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Speaker 2: need to understand is, like, people don't like me in

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Speaker 2: my locker room. No one is a fan of MJF

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Speaker 2: in my locker room because everybody wants to be MJF.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be the twenty five year old guy

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Speaker 2: who's already on top. Nobody's happy that I have done

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Speaker 2: what I've done in such a short period of time.

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Speaker 2: And guess what, I don't give a shit. And they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be way more upset when I beat seam Punk

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Speaker 2: again wherever he decides we're going to wrestle, and when

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing pretty platinum, the aw world tight or they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be even more upset. And so are you personally

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Speaker 2: listening to this podcast who crosses their fingers every week

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Speaker 2: that somebody's gonna shut me up. Newsplash is not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not being apologetic for that. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: I approach this as sport because it is, and I'm

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Speaker 2: a professional athlete. I don't mess around. And there are

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Speaker 2: other guys who are happy to be here. They're just

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Speaker 2: happy to be on TV, and that's great golf plat

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Speaker 2: for you. I'm not gonna be happy until I am

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Speaker 2: the most successful, the most famous professional wrestler who's ever

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Speaker 2: graced this earth. That's when I'll have a real smiling

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Speaker 2: on my face. Now there are moments where I'm able

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Speaker 2: to soak it in. You bet you're ass. When I

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Speaker 2: was being held up on that throne by all those short,

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Speaker 2: stocky fat boys as they carried me to the ring

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Speaker 2: and I had my tongue down that girl's consoles last week,

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Speaker 2: that I was a pig, and shit, I was having

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Speaker 2: a good time. You have to be able to take

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Speaker 2: a step back and enjoy the fruits your labor. But

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Speaker 2: I will not be completely fulfilled. This chip will not

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Speaker 2: be off my shoulder until I go down as the

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Speaker 2: greatest of all time.

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Speaker 3: MJ.

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Speaker 1: You are a young gunner, but you are old school

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Speaker 1: as fuck. And that is the first time I've ever

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Speaker 1: said fuck on my podcast.

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Speaker 3: You are one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 1: I was told a long time ago by a very

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Speaker 1: smart man in Hollywood storyteller's cut no wood, and that

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Speaker 1: was one of the reasons I became an actor. And

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Speaker 1: not even I can shut you up. You are the man.

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Speaker 1: I am so grateful for you doing this. Where can

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Speaker 1: people find you so they can harass you and you

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Speaker 1: cannot give a shit while crapping all over them at

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Speaker 1: the same time, you can.

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Speaker 2: Follow me on Instagram and Twitter at the Underscore MJF.

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Speaker 2: If you are a producer in Hollywood and you are

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Speaker 2: looking for a very handsome, very young stud for your

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Speaker 2: upcoming movie, you can email me at BOOKMJF at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com. If you are someone who is looking to

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Speaker 2: spend upwards of six hundred semi dollars for a cameo,

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking forward to it, but I do it

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Speaker 2: so you can go there to cameo for me. This

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Speaker 2: has been Maxwell Jacob Friedman.

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Speaker 1: I'm better than you and you know all right, you guys,

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Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in. I'll see everybody next week with

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Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddy Peace. This

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Speaker 1: has been a production of Iheart'smichael Tutap podcast network for

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. What's up you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Appreciate you guys. I hope you had

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Speaker 1: an awesome, awesome holiday. I hope you have an awesome

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Speaker 1: new Year. And here's the brand new episodes of Wrestling

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Speaker 1: with Freddie starting next week.

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Speaker 3: Peace