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Speaker 2: Like I might notice all maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm interested because I'm certain you don't know
Speaker 1: what it's about. So now I'm a little curious what
Speaker 1: you thought it was about. But we can save that
Speaker 1: maybe for off the air. Because what I am because
Speaker 1: this is after all year long, you embarrass me by
Speaker 1: crushing your teasers while I just scuttle along as a
Speaker 1: five hundred picker of games. You then come the playoffs,
Speaker 1: decide you're gonna start picking games too, and you're crushing me.
Speaker 1: It's just a total a bockle on my end, what's happened?
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean that's not I'm certain, Well
Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think maybe next year we
Speaker 1: each do five picks, you know, unrelated to each other,
Speaker 1: and maybe I also start doing a teaser. Maybe I
Speaker 1: drink your milkshake a little bit, and so so there's that. Oh,
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Speaker 1: our gambling show and our pick show. There are only
Speaker 1: two games, so that would be a very very short show.
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Speaker 1: going to start the show with the Bills press conference
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Speaker 1: the Bills owner and New Grand Pooba CEO of Everything
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, had a press conference. It was interesting, I
Speaker 1: could talk about this for six hours. Yeah, I'll try
Speaker 1: to limit it to like twenty minutes. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: The Bills have given you some more fire, some more
Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. So the Bill season ended last
Speaker 2: week and the owner came out and threw McDermott in
Speaker 2: the second year Keon coleman ar receiver under the bus,
Speaker 2: saying that that was McDermott's guy, that was his thing.
Speaker 2: As a former Bills hater, this has got to make
Speaker 2: you pretty happy. Huh.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean no, I'm not gonna say it
Speaker 1: makes me happy. It was a window into I had
Speaker 1: been saying that I think the Bill's job is better
Speaker 1: than the Raven's job.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the reason I am focused on, by the way,
Speaker 1: on these job openings is and I do not think
Speaker 1: this can be reiterated enough, these types of jobs demonse
Speaker 1: never come open. MVP quarterback who's not yet thirty that
Speaker 1: job being open. In the last fifty five years of
Speaker 1: the NFL, there has been one other MVP quarterback in
Speaker 1: his thirties who had a head coach opening. Is Brett Farv.
Speaker 1: And Farv's job came open for very different reasons. Mike
Speaker 1: Holmgren was the coach of the Packers. They won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with far they went to another one. He
Speaker 1: then wanted more power he wanted to be the GM
Speaker 1: and head coach. The Packers wouldn't give him that job,
Speaker 1: so he resigned, and so that created the opening. He
Speaker 1: went to Seattle to go do it there and they
Speaker 1: hired a guy named Ray Rhodes. Ray Rhodes lasted one year.
Speaker 1: They then fired him and they hired Mike Sherman. So
Speaker 1: the prior to two weeks ago, the only MVP quarterback
Speaker 1: in their prime in their thirties who had ever dealt
Speaker 1: with a head coach vacancy was Brett fav and had
Speaker 1: happened twice, but under very different circumstances. They didn't want
Speaker 1: to move on from the initial coach, and then they
Speaker 1: hired the wrong guy they felt in Ray Rhodes. We
Speaker 1: have two of them right now, Lamar and Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: and so it is Aaron Rodgers having a head coach opening.
Speaker 1: When they moved on from Mike McCarthy to Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: when he's in his mid late thirties was surprising, if
Speaker 1: not shocking. Hayton Manning in Denver and you might be like, wait,
Speaker 1: did they changed coaches in Indie with Peyton? But he
Speaker 1: hadn't won an MVP yet like that was when he
Speaker 1: was very young. So this is stunning that this exists.
Speaker 1: And I just it is a seismic event in the
Speaker 1: NFL for one of these jobs to be open, much
Speaker 1: less two of the jobs to be open. To get
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying, I had been saying,
Speaker 1: the Bill's job is a better job than the Ravens job.
Speaker 1: But man, Steve Bushatti gave a press conference and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can see why that guy is so successful. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, seems to you know, own the room, very
Speaker 1: assured of himself, knows what he's doing. And I watched
Speaker 1: Terry Pagoula and I was like, oh boy, it's not great,
Speaker 1: and so that I don't know if it's enough to
Speaker 1: jump the Raven's job in my mind ahead the Bill's job,
Speaker 1: but it is instructive. The other thing that was very instructive,
Speaker 1: and I want to be again, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Terry Pegoula is telling the truth or not telling the truth,
Speaker 1: but you got to take him at his word on
Speaker 1: at least some of this stuff, or let me rephrase it,
Speaker 1: you have to at least be open to the possibility
Speaker 1: that he's telling the truth. And Terry Pegoola confirmed something
Speaker 1: that I hypothesized on TV and on this pod earlier
Speaker 1: this week, that he determined they had to fire Sean
Speaker 1: McDermott essentially because of how devastated Josh Allen was. And
Speaker 1: that's why I hammered and focused on Alan crying and
Speaker 1: I was I knew it was. I was running the
Speaker 1: risk of either sounding like a Neanderthal guy like men
Speaker 1: don't cry. I've cried on this pod multiple times, like
Speaker 1: that's not what That's not what I was trying to communicate.
Speaker 1: And I'm certainly as a guy uh that wears makeup
Speaker 1: and talks for a living, wasn't at trying to act
Speaker 1: like I'm mister tough guy compared to Josh freaking Allen.
Speaker 1: The reason I was hammering on he's that distraught that
Speaker 1: he is sobbing in the locker room reportedly and teary
Speaker 1: eyed at the press conference is that is a massive
Speaker 1: signal that that team might be broken. And Terry Bagoula
Speaker 1: comes out on Wednesday and says when he walks in
Speaker 1: the locker room and Josh Allen, Allen doesn't even acknowledge
Speaker 1: him because he's quote sobbing, That's when he knew they
Speaker 1: had to change the coach, which also, again, this is
Speaker 1: why it's a tough press conference de Monse. That's even
Speaker 1: if that's true, that's a shitty thing to put on
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's shoulders.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and also but he was Josh Allen played
Speaker 2: poorly in the game. He was crying, but it's probably
Speaker 2: because of something that he did though, I mean also
Speaker 2: the game. But I mean you have to fire McDermott
Speaker 2: because the result was so bad. But the result was
Speaker 2: so bad directly related to Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen, right, Like, I guess I'll put a fine point
Speaker 1: on what you're saying. I believe it would be more
Speaker 1: damning for the you know, kind of trajectory of the
Speaker 1: team had that been Josh Allen's reaction after that lost
Speaker 1: in a game he played awesome, where where it would
Speaker 1: have just felt I think, I like what you What
Speaker 1: I think you're getting at is Josh Allen was that
Speaker 1: emotional because he felt like he let his team down
Speaker 1: that not not necessarily that we're never gonna get over
Speaker 1: the hump. Yeah, but I'm you know this on for
Speaker 1: these three hours, I wasn't myself, I wasn't good. I
Speaker 1: let the guys down and that, and so I think
Speaker 1: that's the listen. That makes a lot of sense there.
Speaker 1: There's that the and Pagoula was you know, said he
Speaker 1: did not going into that game. He did not think
Speaker 1: he was gonna end up firing the coach even if
Speaker 1: they lost. But then after the game, when he saw
Speaker 1: the reactions, that's when he knew it. But he also
Speaker 1: seemed very clearly to believe they lost because they got
Speaker 1: robbed like that, So that lot it doesn't really he
Speaker 1: said at the press conference, we lost because of a
Speaker 1: bad call, and he said to Josh Allen, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a catch.
Speaker 2: So those things are yeah.
Speaker 1: And so if you're Sean McDermott, you're like, what the hell,
Speaker 1: So you're saying, we thought you thought what I thought
Speaker 1: that we won, but I'm fired because of it. And
Speaker 1: so the whole thing seems let's call it haphazard. And
Speaker 1: I say all that, but while acknowledging I do think
Speaker 1: the Bills need to shake the snow globe. I do
Speaker 1: think there is too much scar tissue from the sequence
Speaker 1: of five years so they and I'm not gonna rehash
Speaker 1: this fully, but I do think it informs why even
Speaker 1: if the process was idiotic. Even if the press conference
Speaker 1: wasn't embarrassed, that potentially changing the head coach had to
Speaker 1: be done. Because in twenty twenty, you reach the AFC
Speaker 1: Championship game ahead of schedule, Josh Allen explodes onto the
Speaker 1: scene and his first real superstar year. The Chiefs clock you,
Speaker 1: but that was peak peak early Chiefs defending Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champs that year. They lost one game where Mahomes started that,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to go back to back, and in
Speaker 1: the offseason you say your GM, Brandon Bean says, we
Speaker 1: are obsessed with Kansas City. We are building a team
Speaker 1: with them in mind. That's so twenty twenty is not
Speaker 1: a Even though you lose in the AFC title game,
Speaker 1: you feel great about the year. And then after that
Speaker 1: your season's end as follows the thirteen Seconds game, which
Speaker 1: they're still not over. Clearly still not over. That was
Speaker 1: five years ago, still not over. The next year, you
Speaker 1: have the Damar Hamlin situation late in the year, and
Speaker 1: then go into the playoffs and Cincinnati comes into your
Speaker 1: building and just clocks you. And it does kind of
Speaker 1: feel like that if because that Bill's performance in that
Speaker 1: particular playoff game was so desparate from how we'd seen
Speaker 1: them in playoff games before that. You wonder if having
Speaker 1: a teammate die in front of you on the field
Speaker 1: against the Bengals in the regular season and then playing
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the playoffs if it was just too much.
Speaker 1: Then the next year, you finally have the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: your building for the first time in the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: you miss a field goal to tie the game. And
Speaker 1: then the next year you're back in the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: game for the first time since twenty twenty against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and you come up short. And then the next
Speaker 1: year the Chiefs finally aren't in the playoffs, you're playing
Speaker 1: a Broncos team, you have the lead in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and you lose in overtime and feel like, even though
Speaker 1: you're incorrect on this, you got screwed. So I do
Speaker 1: think there's just too much scar tissue. You probably needed
Speaker 1: to move on. But the messaging was so clunky. And
Speaker 1: here's where the Keon Coleman thing I think is most interesting,
Speaker 1: because obviously demons like they torched the kid, and the
Speaker 1: owner torch the team, and all that he's still on
Speaker 1: the team at a position you have no depth, he
Speaker 1: has cost controlled, he's young, he's still obviously has potential
Speaker 1: and maybe and you would have wanted in theory demanse
Speaker 1: the next head coach to evaluate him and make a decision.
Speaker 1: Do you think you know you can he's basically playing
Speaker 1: for free as a second round pick on a rookie deal,
Speaker 1: or should we cut bait? But now because of what
Speaker 1: was said about him at the press conference where people
Speaker 1: are like, no, the guy who's still here didn't want him,
Speaker 1: and the guy who's not here did want him. So
Speaker 1: that's obviously clunky and bad for all involved. And Brandon
Speaker 1: Bean tried to clean it up after. But here is
Speaker 1: what to me is instructive about that. Forget the fact
Speaker 1: that there is plenty of the Bills that have you
Speaker 1: seen any of on Twitter? Demansey, the the clips of
Speaker 1: the Bills draft documentary from the Keon Coleman Draft.
Speaker 2: No, but it is it seems like it contradicts what
Speaker 2: the owner was.
Speaker 1: Well, Brandon Bean certainly seems excited about being able to
Speaker 1: draft Keon Coleman like that, and so and it again,
Speaker 1: maybe he's putting on a good, brave face. Do I
Speaker 1: believe that maybe there was a player available at thirty
Speaker 1: three that Bean had slightly higher than Keon Coleman. But sure,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't at no point does it seem like
Speaker 1: being is you know, exactly right, and it is his
Speaker 1: his decision. The other piece of the and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get back to the Keon Coleman thing, but this is important.
Speaker 1: The other piece of the press conference that was noteworthy
Speaker 1: was Brandon be getting very animated talking about how devastated he,
Speaker 1: his wife, his family have been by some of the
Speaker 1: commentary that he stabbed Sean McDermott in the back and
Speaker 1: questioning his character and son, who he is, any of
Speaker 1: those things. And I'm not alludging he stabbing anybody in
Speaker 1: the back. I am saying this. Somebody told the owner
Speaker 1: of the team at some point this year, the front office,
Speaker 1: meaning Brandon Bean, did not want Kean Coleman, the coaching
Speaker 1: staff did. Somebody told him that, And the most obvious
Speaker 1: answer as to who would have told him that is
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean. Now at the press conference, Brandon Bean then
Speaker 1: tried to clean it up, and he's like, they're all
Speaker 1: my picks, like it's my responsibility and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But I don't I'm not saying I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: qualifies as stabbing anyone in the back, but there was
Speaker 1: a level of that wasn't my pick. That was the
Speaker 1: coaching staff's pick. But here Demond's is where And this
Speaker 1: is the piece that I think people have skipped over.
Speaker 1: It makes it even more dysfunctional. Sean McDermott is a
Speaker 1: head coach, obviously, but he's a defensive head coach. He
Speaker 1: calls the defense, he's that's his side of the ball.
Speaker 1: So if the coaching staff really liked Keon Coleman, the
Speaker 1: loudest voice about which receiver we should take in the
Speaker 1: draft of the coaching staff likely would not be McDermott.
Speaker 1: What would be the offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who is
Speaker 1: still on the staff and interviewing to be the head coach.
Speaker 1: So when the owners, like the GM didn't want the
Speaker 1: player the coaches did, in all likely the coach who
Speaker 1: wanted the player that you're so out on, you're flaming
Speaker 1: at this press conference you are interviewing to maybe be
Speaker 1: the next head coach.
Speaker 2: It ain't all over the place.
Speaker 1: I mean it really, it ain't great, and.
Speaker 2: I honestly think it'll be good for Coleman in a
Speaker 2: weird way like here in this because I do think
Speaker 2: he's a little, a little childish in his production obviously
Speaker 2: wasn't what it needed to be this year, and I
Speaker 2: think that I think that that might work out in
Speaker 2: a more positive way than negative. He maybe ends up
Speaker 2: leaving the team or they end up getting rid of him,
Speaker 2: but I think if he's on the Bills next year,
Speaker 2: have more production.
Speaker 1: Wherever he is next year, whether it's Bills or elsewhere,
Speaker 1: this right now is a fork in the road moment
Speaker 1: for that young man's career. And work in the road
Speaker 1: doesn't always mean good, don't the four You take the
Speaker 1: fork in the road kaderas Tony took after the Chiefs
Speaker 1: gave him chance after chance after chance, and you're no
Speaker 1: longer Kadarious Tony NFL wide receiver, you're young Djoka, failing rapper,
Speaker 1: and like that's the uh, you know, it's like but
Speaker 1: the and sometimes the fork in the road moment or yeah,
Speaker 1: or I mean, I we even outside of sports, a
Speaker 1: lot of us in our early twenties. Both people on
Speaker 1: this pod in our early twenties had moments of immense
Speaker 1: failure and embarrassment, and it was all right. Is that
Speaker 1: enough for me to be like grow up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, like for real and
Speaker 1: that is like and so I the for Keon Coleman again,
Speaker 1: the the half half full is I can prove all.
Speaker 1: I can prove everyone wrong, whether it's with Buffalo or
Speaker 1: wherever I am. I am going to the I've become
Speaker 1: a punchline, and I am young enough and healthy enough
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be. I want to make sure. I
Speaker 1: keep saying he's twenty two. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman is he's played two years in the league,
Speaker 1: but he came I was right about this. He came
Speaker 1: in super young. He's twenty two. He turns twenty three
Speaker 1: in May, so like he's younger than some receivers that
Speaker 1: will be drafted this year. And so he just has
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be like, I've got ten years of
Speaker 1: NFL football ahead of me to make this be you
Speaker 1: know a sidebar of my story. And the other fork
Speaker 1: in the road is he can watch that press conference
Speaker 1: be like, man, f those guys. I'm going back to
Speaker 1: bed and I don't know, like you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna and so that's but it does
Speaker 1: make everything about this Bill's job is so interesting to me.
Speaker 1: And here's the other piece of it, demanse that as
Speaker 1: as I'm talking to you, Brandon Cooks is on Good
Speaker 1: Morning Football saying at the end of the day was
Speaker 1: a catch, Yeah, got you gotta get over it. You can't.
Speaker 1: That doesn't that doesn't move you forward.
Speaker 2: He didn't even really act. It just does a catch
Speaker 2: during the game.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. He
Speaker 1: did not respond like someone who thought they had caught
Speaker 1: the balls responded like someone correct one correct, And we can't.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have the rights to show and
Speaker 1: I know we don't have the rights to show like
Speaker 1: old NFL footage on here, but it's worth a it's
Speaker 1: worth a Google or thrown into YouTube for folks. During
Speaker 1: the game where the nineties playoffs Packers Niners, the game
Speaker 1: where Terrell Owens made the you know, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest catches, Young too catches it in the end zone
Speaker 1: and gets annihilated to win a playoff game against Brett
Speaker 1: Farbes Packers. Steve Young throws in the past on that drive,
Speaker 1: or certainly in that game, Jerry Rice catches the ball,
Speaker 1: has it stripped, like when he's upright, the ball is
Speaker 1: stripped and the ball basically rolls right down his leg.
Speaker 1: I'm doing this from memory, but I know I'm right,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of nonchalantly grabs the ball, signals
Speaker 1: first down and jogs to the huddle. And his lack
Speaker 1: of reaction is why nobody realized it was a fumble
Speaker 1: like his. He was so like it. He didn't like
Speaker 1: it was no panic, no even quick move like anything,
Speaker 1: and so like the bot now.
Speaker 2: And just kept running to the.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, he was down, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: he fumbled before he was down, but did not react
Speaker 1: like a player who thought there was a fumble, And
Speaker 1: so the refs didn't even stop to look like, wait,
Speaker 1: was there a fumble? The now to get get us
Speaker 1: back on track quickly. The most interesting piece of this
Speaker 1: left is we haven't heard from Josh Allen yet, and
Speaker 1: I don't know when we will, but the fact that
Speaker 1: we haven't means maybe we won't at least, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously at some point he'll talk. But I find all
Speaker 1: that interesting, and I find the Bills head coach search
Speaker 1: very interesting, but this, to me is one of the
Speaker 1: best jobs. Yea. Two of the ten best job openings
Speaker 1: that the NFL has had in my life are open
Speaker 1: right now. And if Brian Dable goes from being fired
Speaker 1: by the Giants to the head coach of the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills and Josh Allen, I don't know what the comp
Speaker 1: for that is in like my business, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like being fired from being one of the
Speaker 1: hosts on the Beast Games to all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're the lead anchor of sixty minutes. It's like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: this worked out really great for.
Speaker 2: Me, but check me out.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't think hiring Davis Webb,
Speaker 1: who claims he's Josh Allen's best friend, is the way
Speaker 1: to go. I don't think running it back with your
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Joe Brady or your former offensive coordinator Brian
Speaker 1: Dable is the way to go. Lou Ana Roumo, first
Speaker 1: time head coach, would be the former decordinator for the
Speaker 1: Bengals is interesting, but it's you know, I said Belichick.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the world hates that idea except me. Tomlin's
Speaker 1: not coming, so I don't know. Where you are somewhere
Speaker 1: that would be a disaster. You can't hire Antonio Piers,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what they do, but I'm super
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Speaker 1: out a trade on TV yesterday. I don't think it's dumb.
Speaker 1: Seems like I'm in the minority and not thinking my
Speaker 1: own trade idea is dumb. Go ahead, and let's talk
Speaker 1: it through.
Speaker 2: All right. So we're on games to talk about. So
Speaker 2: it's rumor slash trade talk time of the year. People
Speaker 2: are throwing around trades and rumors. A trader rumor that
Speaker 2: you co signed was Lamar for Max Crosby and the
Speaker 2: number one pick, which are probably Bendoza to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Yeah so lit No, well, you might just become a
Speaker 1: Raider fan. You can just you can just follow Lamar.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Lamar and genty would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I I don't I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this and I didn't just create this out of thin air.
Speaker 1: The ESPN did like bold predictions for the offseason, and
Speaker 1: one of them was, could Tom Brady and the Raiders
Speaker 1: make a play for Lamar Jackson. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders, after watching them and believing in
Speaker 1: them this year, are you know, close enough to make
Speaker 1: a move even for Lamar Jackson. However, I am more
Speaker 1: interested in this from the Ravens side of it, and
Speaker 1: I don't know who the next Ravens head coach is
Speaker 1: going to be, but whomever it is, I think in
Speaker 1: the universe where this was available, you get the equivalent,
Speaker 1: I believe of demand's a five first round picks, the
Speaker 1: equivalent of five first round picks for Lamar and by
Speaker 1: that I mean Max Crosby on the open market is
Speaker 1: worth two firsts. And we know the number one pick,
Speaker 1: given the Bryce Young trade, it's equivalent the equivalent that
Speaker 1: it's worth is a little more than three, you know,
Speaker 1: middle average first round picks. I know number one pick
Speaker 1: is literally one first round pick, but it's in order
Speaker 1: to get it you would have to trade like the
Speaker 1: fifteenth pick and to future first to move up that far.
Speaker 1: So this is the equivalent of you know, call it
Speaker 1: five first round picks, and you would not be like,
Speaker 1: all right, well now we're in the quarterback wilderness, because
Speaker 1: now you might end up being if Mendoza is not
Speaker 1: the guy. But you're not trading for the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick blind saying you know, or trading for a
Speaker 1: future year pick when you don't know who the players
Speaker 1: are that you'd be taking. You would know you are
Speaker 1: taking Fernando Mendoza. And the point that the reason I
Speaker 1: find this interesting from the Ravens perspective, this theoretical fake
Speaker 1: trade that ESPN alluded to it. And then I put
Speaker 1: a fine tooth comb on, or a finer point on
Speaker 1: I should say, I do think that it is a
Speaker 1: legitimate discussion. What is a better path to winning a
Speaker 1: championship young quarterback on a rookie scale plus Max Crosby
Speaker 1: plus the extra forty some million dollars of cap space
Speaker 1: to build out the rest of the roster, or Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: who will enter next year undoubtedly as the highest paid
Speaker 1: player in the league on a sixty plus million dollar
Speaker 1: a year contract. And it is worth noting the two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls the Ravens have won, they won with cheap
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and stacked rosters. The Denver Broncos are attempting this
Speaker 1: right now. I know bo Nix is now out, but
Speaker 1: young quarterback, all this talent around them. The Patriots, I,
Speaker 1: you know, don't think they actually have all that much
Speaker 1: talent around them. I think what the job May and
Speaker 1: Vrabil have done's unbelievable. But they spent money this offseason.
Speaker 1: They have more money to spend this next offseason. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking news. That good young, cheap quarterback who
Speaker 1: gives you franchise quarterback play on rookie quarterback salary at
Speaker 1: a bunch of pieces has been a very successful model.
Speaker 1: And then when you add to it what I think
Speaker 1: could be some squeamishness for the Ravens of a brand
Speaker 1: new contract for Lamar after at the very least we
Speaker 1: can call it an injury riddled year. I think it's
Speaker 1: worth a real discussion, and it is. I also want
Speaker 1: to make this part clear. This is not an insult
Speaker 1: to Lamar, because if I were the Raiders, I would
Speaker 1: not like. Let let me again, this is we're playing
Speaker 1: in double hypothetical worlds here. But let's say the Raiders
Speaker 1: offered this to the Ravens, Max Crosby and the number
Speaker 1: one pick for Lamar and the rape, and the Ravens
Speaker 1: said no, thank you, And then the Bengals heard it
Speaker 1: had been offered and they called the Raiders and they said,
Speaker 1: we'll take it for Joe Burrow. If I'm the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is worth the number one overall pick plus Max Crosby,
Speaker 1: because even with Lamar uh having an injury riddled year, Joe,
Speaker 1: to me is is an even bigger injury risk than Lamar,
Speaker 1: and Joe has not shown consistent regular season, first team
Speaker 1: All Pro level play the way Joe has one year
Speaker 1: like that in his career, the way Lamar has. So
Speaker 1: it is there are only three veteran quarterbacks in the
Speaker 1: league that if I were the Raiders, I would offer
Speaker 1: this package up for Lamar, Josh and Patrick. Obviously the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Bills. There's nothing you could offer those
Speaker 1: teams to get them to trade Josh or Patrick. The Ravens,
Speaker 1: given how this last year went, the new head coach
Speaker 1: Lamar's pending contract situation, I just wonder if the door
Speaker 1: is creaked open to the point of if the Ravens
Speaker 1: derive considering this, why would they have fired Harball again?
Speaker 1: Now we're in like quadruple hypotheticals. What I will tell
Speaker 1: you is this they if they wanted the Hardball Lamar relationship,
Speaker 1: that partnership could not continue, and had they kept Harball,
Speaker 1: then Lamar really has a hammer because he also does
Speaker 1: have a no trade clause in his deal. So you
Speaker 1: might say, Nick, you're talking about the trade, he has
Speaker 1: no trade clause. Players again can wave those and can
Speaker 1: make it, can decide, you know, kind of steer where
Speaker 1: they want to go potentially because of it. I just
Speaker 1: think it is not I think the lam contract is
Speaker 1: going to be a big enough story this offseason that
Speaker 1: this is of all the fake trades that exist to
Speaker 1: monse this is not total whole cloth like that. I
Speaker 1: do think that there will be some of that discussion
Speaker 1: over the offseason. So you're I'm not predicting it's going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 2: Crosby, Mendoza and no more picks or like that's it
Speaker 2: for no.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying first.
Speaker 2: Round picks, right, No.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, what I'm I'm what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. To acquire that by itself
Speaker 1: usually takes three first round picks, and to acquire Max
Speaker 1: Crosby would take two first round picks. So I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is the equivalent in value of five first round picks.
Speaker 1: But the trade would be essentially Fernando Mendoza and Max
Speaker 1: Crosby for Lamar Jackson and and so you're out on
Speaker 1: it most people.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean if it were multiple, I thought
Speaker 2: it was going to be multiple. I see what you're
Speaker 2: saying in it being multiple first to equal the number
Speaker 2: one pick of the draft. But yeah, but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that's not enough. I need some more retooling if we're
Speaker 2: getting rid of Lamar.
Speaker 1: But so, well, that's the thing is this, I don't
Speaker 1: think And by the way.
Speaker 2: Get all the money off of Lamar's contract.
Speaker 1: Right, and it wouldn't just be here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be doing this being like all right, we're rebuilding.
Speaker 1: You'd be doing it saying.
Speaker 2: We have we saw the windows right now.
Speaker 1: The Commanders, the Patriots, the Bears, and the Broncos in
Speaker 1: the last two years have all made the divisional rounder
Speaker 1: further with a quarterback that was either a rookie or
Speaker 1: in his second year, like we are we are going
Speaker 1: for this right now?
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I want to just gus this Baxter Holmes, Lakers, Genie
Speaker 1: bus lebron story. You guys tell me the I don't
Speaker 1: mind demand's background being off. We can fix that later. There,
Speaker 1: Oh it's back, look at that. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: So yesterday Baxter Holmes of ESPN dropped a story about
Speaker 2: the sale of the Lakers and the piece they also
Speaker 2: discussed how Genie buss grew frustrated with Lebron and didn't
Speaker 2: even want to sign him to a new contract in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, even talked about shipping them off to
Speaker 2: the Clippers. Uh, what do you make of all this?
Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple and Genie Busses today came out
Speaker 1: and you know, basically refuted some of this. Let me
Speaker 1: say this on the front end. The thrust of this
Speaker 1: story is not about Lebron and everyone should read the story.
Speaker 1: It is superb reporting by a superb reporter in Baxter Holmes,
Speaker 1: who does great work, really great work for ESPN, And
Speaker 1: you know, it is very long and very good about
Speaker 1: the Bus family and the sale of the Lakers. Okay
Speaker 1: that if I were doing Los Angeles talk radio, that
Speaker 1: would be one of them, the major topic of the
Speaker 1: day on this platform. I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: care about the palace intrigue of the Bus family sale
Speaker 1: of the Lakers. So I'm going to focus on the
Speaker 1: Lebron piece of it because I am interested in that.
Speaker 1: But I again, I just want to give credit to
Speaker 1: the story and a Baxter for and say on the
Speaker 1: front end, this is not the general plot point of
Speaker 1: the story. But I'm going to read you the Lebron
Speaker 1: section and then I'm going to briefly explain why it
Speaker 1: enrages me from Baxterme's story, team sources told ESPN she
Speaker 1: even began to turn against the Lakers star player Lebron James.
Speaker 1: Jeanie privately grumbled, people close to the team say about
Speaker 1: what she felt was James's outsized ego and the overt
Speaker 1: control that he and Clutch Sports, which represents both James
Speaker 1: and Davis, exerted over the organization. She didn't like that
Speaker 1: James was considered a savior for a floundering franchise when
Speaker 1: he arrived in twenty eighteen, and that it was he
Speaker 1: who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership, receiving
Speaker 1: praise for landing him. More on that in a moment.
Speaker 1: Team sources have been adamant for years that James's camp
Speaker 1: and four in the Lakers early as twenty seventeen that
Speaker 1: he was coming to join them when he became a
Speaker 1: free agent the following year. The distance between Genie and
Speaker 1: James widened after the Lakers traded for Russell Westbrook in
Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty one. The team had made the
Speaker 1: trade an effort to appease James, but the acquisition backfired
Speaker 1: in catastrophic fashion. LA went thirty three and forty nine,
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, and James seemed to wash his hands
Speaker 1: of his role in the acquisition. Geenie privately bristled about
Speaker 1: what she felt was his lack of accountability and the
Speaker 1: way James would shift blame onto others after the Westbrook trade,
Speaker 1: people said in twenty twenty two, in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the Westbrook trade, multiple people said Genie privately mused about
Speaker 1: not giving James a contract extension, even about trading James
Speaker 1: with the Clippers floated as a possibility. This was before
Speaker 1: James received a contract extension with a no trade clause
Speaker 1: for two years, one hundred and four million dollars, and
Speaker 1: when the Lakers drafted James's son, Bronnie with a fifty
Speaker 1: to fifth pick, Genie privately remarked that James should be
Speaker 1: grateful for such a gesture, but she felt he wasn't.
Speaker 1: That summer she discussed new contract for James, Genie seemed
Speaker 1: Moore resigned to the fact that they'd have to do it,
Speaker 1: almost begrudgingly accepting they'd take a massive pr hit by
Speaker 1: not doing so. Okay, the reason this, that's the that's
Speaker 1: the piece, and now this is me not reading the
Speaker 1: pieces talking. The reason Lebron James considered himself a savior
Speaker 1: for a floundering franchise was simply because he was a
Speaker 1: savior for a floundering franchise. It's not complicated, it's not weird,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to fucking parse. The reason Lebron considered
Speaker 1: the Lakers a floundering franchise is because before he got there,
Speaker 1: they were a floundering franchise. And the reason he considered
Speaker 1: himself a savior was because within two years of getting there,
Speaker 1: they won the championship. The Los Angeles Lakers had never
Speaker 1: been bad back to Minneapolis Demanse their second year in
Speaker 1: existence in the league. Actually, no, pardon me, their first
Speaker 1: year in existence, when they went from the Detroit gyms
Speaker 1: who were bad to the Minneapolis Lakers. With George Mikeen
Speaker 1: they won the championship. They then won a bunch more
Speaker 1: championships in the fifties. Then in the sixties they went
Speaker 1: to the finals almost every year, lost to the Celtics
Speaker 1: a bunch. Then in the seventies they got Kareem Abdul
Speaker 1: Jabbar and then in the eighties were the most successful
Speaker 1: team in the NBA. Then in the nineties they had
Speaker 1: had their one tiny downturn, which was a thirty three
Speaker 1: win team that missed the playoffs, and shortly thereafter they
Speaker 1: got Shaquille O'Neal and drafted Kobe Bryan or traded for him,
Speaker 1: and they were awesome again, the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm
Speaker 1: giving the full context here prior to the twenty tens demonse.
Speaker 1: Here is the full list of years they were not
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, either Minneapolis or Los Angeles. Nineteen fifty eight, Okay,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five and seventy six, that's when they traded
Speaker 1: for Kareem, nineteen ninety four and two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: That's the list. From the fifties until the twenty tens,
Speaker 1: they had always been excellent Florishi and then in the
Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: five times and won the following number of games twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty one, seventeen, twenty six, thirty five. So all of
Speaker 1: Lakers history five years missed the playoffs from Minneapolis to
Speaker 1: La across Damn near sixty five years. And then the
Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: five times. Their finishes in the Western Conference again, fifteen
Speaker 1: teams in the Western Conference the five years before Lebron
Speaker 1: got there fourteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, fourteenth, eleventh, they were arguably
Speaker 1: the worst team in basketball for a half decade. That
Speaker 1: is a floundering franchise that was saved one. Some people
Speaker 1: think that if you save something or someone, you might
Speaker 1: consider yourself a savior by Lebron James wanting to move
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, not by Rob Bolenka or Jeanie Buss's
Speaker 1: fancy PowerPoint presentation. So that is what happened. Now, does
Speaker 1: Lebron have an outsized ego? I've heard that does Clutch
Speaker 1: sports exhibit a lot of influence over the Lakers? Seems
Speaker 1: to be did Lebron James want Russell Westbrook? Yes? Did
Speaker 1: that work out? No? Well, Lebron James wanted a bunch
Speaker 1: of things. Lebron James wanted Tylo to be his coach.
Speaker 1: They said no to that. Lebron James wanted Paul George
Speaker 1: on the Lakers. That didn't happen. Lebron. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: things Lebron wanted they didn't do, and plenty of things
Speaker 1: Lebron wanted they did do. The Lakers choosing to say
Speaker 1: yes to the request for Russell Westbrook because the Lakers
Speaker 1: brand is Stars when they had said no to other
Speaker 1: things and yes to other things, and then acting like
Speaker 1: Lebron is the one who called it into the league
Speaker 1: office and washing their hands of it entirely, but then
Speaker 1: also whining about Lebron helping them get Anthony Davis, which
Speaker 1: then allowed them to get Luke ad Ancic and win
Speaker 1: a championship is laughable. And complaining to people a year
Speaker 1: after the guy wins Finals MVP for you and you
Speaker 1: win a championship that you don't want to give him
Speaker 1: a contract extension and you might actually trade him only
Speaker 1: to give him a two year max contract extension with
Speaker 1: a no trade clause is laughable. Doctor Jerry Buss was
Speaker 1: one of the greatest owners in the history of pro basketball.
Speaker 1: Genie Buss, by all accounts, is an incredibly nice person
Speaker 1: who has a lot of friends in the media. The
Speaker 1: new owners of the Lakers are going to get the
Speaker 1: team back on the track it had been for doctor
Speaker 1: Jerry Buss's entire tenure, and the track that it had
Speaker 1: fallen off of entirely until Lebron James came to Los
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Speaker 1: the NFL Awards piece of this, because we're not gonna
Speaker 1: have enough time to do everything that I want to do,
Speaker 1: so let's do that here.
Speaker 2: So list of finalists drop for NFL Awards. You still
Speaker 2: do not have a vote, so you have to make
Speaker 2: your picks here. So what would your picks be for these?
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen MVP the finalists are literally and this
Speaker 1: makes me happy. The five finalists I would have had
Speaker 1: Stafford May, Allen, Christian McCaffrey, who I'm very glad to
Speaker 1: see was a finalist, and Trevor Lawrence, and so all
Speaker 1: of that is. I maybe would have flipped in Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett for Josh, but I probably not. These were in
Speaker 1: my finalists. My ballot of these five would be Stafford won,
Speaker 1: Drake May two, Christian McCaffery three, Trevor Lawrence four, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen five. And I'm so happy for Trevor that he's
Speaker 1: an MVP finalist. That is sick. All right, Next one,
Speaker 1: de Monse, tell me the category and the nominee.
Speaker 2: So we got Coach of the Year. We got Ben Johnson,
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Mike McDonald, Kyle Shanahan, and Mike.
Speaker 1: Raywell, my vote for this would be Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought the fact that that team was playing for
Speaker 1: the one seed the final week of the year. I
Speaker 1: know the playoffs don't count in this, but they ended
Speaker 1: up going to Philly and winning a playoff game, dealing
Speaker 1: with all those injuries there. I mean the other four candidate,
Speaker 1: all five of these guys, Demonse have an unbelievable case.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Ben Johnson, Liam Gohen and Mike Rabele all
Speaker 1: taking four five win teams from last year and getting
Speaker 1: them they all won their division. They all, you know,
Speaker 1: were two or three seeds like that was remarkable. Mike
Speaker 1: McDonald getting to the fourteen wins with Seattle, but my
Speaker 1: vote would be for Shanahan.
Speaker 2: Next. Next we got Assistant Coach of the Year Brian Flores,
Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak of Vic Fangio, Josh McDaniels, and Vance Joseph.
Speaker 1: I want to say this on the front end. I
Speaker 1: am surprised Robert Salah was not nominate. It was not
Speaker 1: one of the finalists.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I thought that he had done an amazing job in
Speaker 1: the league. Agrees he got a head coaching job out
Speaker 1: of it. My vote here, So if people don't know,
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, decordinator for the Vikings, Clint Kubiak, offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, Vick Fangio de coordinator for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator for the Patriots, Vance Joseph defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Broncos. My vote here would be Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 1: I think that when you have a second year quarterback
Speaker 1: in Drake May and you cater an offense so beautifully
Speaker 1: to his exact strengths. I don't think they have great
Speaker 1: receivers or great running backs. They scored a ton of
Speaker 1: point like they were just an elders all year long,
Speaker 1: h offensively, So I would say Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 2: There next Offensive Player of the Year Pooka Nakula Vjhon Robinson,
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Jackson Smith and Jigula and Drake May gotta
Speaker 2: be Pooker. Guy's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: M Pooker. It's tough for me. It would come down
Speaker 1: to Pooker or CMC js N third, b Jon fourth,
Speaker 1: and I like I Also, by the way, this is
Speaker 1: the first real signal we have demons other than first
Speaker 1: team All Pro that Matt Stafford won MVP.
Speaker 2: Oh, that is Offensive Player of the Year as well.
Speaker 1: I think that is a signal that people who voted Stafford.
Speaker 2: MVP, like, we've got to get me something.
Speaker 1: Gave Offensive Player of the Year and so like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the betting odds are right now for MVP,
Speaker 1: but this piece of news to me would put Stafford
Speaker 1: at minus five hundred. I think Stafford, like I am,
Speaker 1: I wait for a lot of money the part it's
Speaker 1: probably not no, But I don't think Listen, I don't
Speaker 1: think Drake ma is gonna win Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Offnsive Player of the Year typically is another way to
Speaker 1: say best non quarterback, and so Pooka or CMC would
Speaker 1: be good with me. I would give it to c
Speaker 1: mc uh just because I thought he was the Niners
Speaker 1: offense this year.
Speaker 2: All right, next, defensive Player of the Year, we got
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons, Will Anderson, Junior, Aiden Hutchinson, and
Speaker 2: Nick Benito. Micah Parsons is eligible.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he played thirteen games, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, uh no, there's no there's no minimal there's in
Speaker 1: the NFL, there's no they just it's whoever you know
Speaker 1: where people got votes. But I mean, Miles Garrett's gonna
Speaker 1: win it unanimously, so it doesn't matter. Like Miles Garrett's
Speaker 1: obviously the answer. Here, go ahead.
Speaker 2: We got comeback Player of the Year, Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: is Christian McCaffrey, Stefan Diggs, Trevor Lawrence, and Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Aiden because I think Aiden came back
Speaker 1: from the worst injury of all these guys. Like remember
Speaker 1: in the offseason you saw his two legs and one
Speaker 1: looked way skinnier than the other, and like, and he
Speaker 1: was excellent. So I'm gonna say Aiden.
Speaker 2: Next next week, got offensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: I'll go through the Sorry, I'll just because I didn't
Speaker 1: realize how late we were. My offensive Rookie of the
Speaker 1: Year would have been Teed McMillan, and my defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the year, uh would have been uh probably Schwsinger schwushing. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it wrong from the Browns. And also
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be Protector of the Year, the Auvinsive
Speaker 1: Lineman of the Year, and I haven't seen those finalists.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they are. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: to the listener questions quick.
Speaker 2: Mathemagical says, seriously, there will be Blood, the worst movie
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, phenomenal acting, gorgeous cinematography, all for the
Speaker 2: story that wasn't worth telling. Damn the.
Speaker 1: That's Can I just say something mathemagical. You wrote a
Speaker 1: comment that said a movie had phenomenal acting and gorgeous
Speaker 1: cinematography and was the worst movie you've ever seen. That
Speaker 1: does seem to be a little in conflict. I mean,
Speaker 1: aside from the acting and the images, that movie sucked.
Speaker 1: What I love that movie? I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: the I think it is arguably, with respect to The
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Speaker 2: All Right, Davi asked if the Chargers don't have a
Speaker 2: top five offense under the new OC, do they start
Speaker 2: thinking about moving on from Herbert.
Speaker 1: No, Herbert is not the type of quarterback you move
Speaker 1: on from. But we are no, so these are different Herbert.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't get I would certainly trade Herbert for the
Speaker 1: number one pick and Max Crossby, Like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, To be clear, that's a fair point. My
Speaker 1: point is like, so let me let me tweak what
Speaker 1: I was saying. Herbert is not the type of quarterback
Speaker 1: you move on from because it's like, ah, he's not
Speaker 1: quite good enough, like the and Lamar. You wouldn't be
Speaker 1: moving on from Lamar like that, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not the because he would go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he would, and he was so right the
Speaker 1: when you're like, okay, this guy tua Is Kyler are
Speaker 1: the guys, it's like they got paid, they don't have it.
Speaker 1: We got to turn the page. My point is Herbert
Speaker 1: is in a class above that. Lamar is in a
Speaker 1: class wholly above that, where it's not so much about
Speaker 1: like nobody's ever like we need to move on from
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. It's oh my god, look at the offer
Speaker 1: we just got for Lamar Jackson, so to be I'm
Speaker 1: glad you made that clarificate to that point. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what the Sorry Chargers. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter if they have top five offense or not. The
Speaker 1: only thing people are gonna give If the Chargers offense
Speaker 1: is stinks all year long and Herbert finally looks halfway decent,
Speaker 1: let alone good in a playoff game, people will feel great.
Speaker 1: And if the Chargers have a top five offense and
Speaker 1: Herbert looks the way he's looked in all his other
Speaker 1: playoff games again, then people will feel like he's just
Speaker 1: never gonna get it, and so the you know, that's
Speaker 1: just where it is, all right.
Speaker 2: Next and JJ asked how much how come Lamar always
Speaker 2: ends up in trade rumors when Dak hurts Joe make
Speaker 2: more sense.
Speaker 1: He's the only one of those guys that's ever demanded
Speaker 1: a trade. Lamar Jackson demanded a trade three years ago when.
Speaker 2: When they weren't given him a contract.
Speaker 1: Excision correct, Yeah, that's what. Yeah, But I mean that's
Speaker 1: why like that, those other guys and Dak. By the way,
Speaker 1: there absolutely were Dak trade rumors around the time he
Speaker 1: was negotiating a contract. Like Hurts and Burrow, they they've
Speaker 1: been on smooth sailing. So that's why, like the Lamar contract,
Speaker 1: stuff has been tricky in the past, and I'm not
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