WEBVTT - Bills INSANE press conference, Nick's Lamar Jackson Ravens-Raiders TRADE, NFL Awards | Nick Wright 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.480 Welcome in. We'll driving the Great episode four eighteen, and 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.799 this episode, as always, is presented to you by our 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:13.800 great friends at boost Mobile. Demand's a good morning. Great 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:18.520 to see you. I'm a little upset with you. I'm 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.280 just gonna get this out of the way here. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:23.959 Like I might notice all maybe I don't. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.280 Well, now I'm interested because I'm certain you don't know 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.920 what it's about. So now I'm a little curious what 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.159 you thought it was about. But we can save that 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.120 maybe for off the air. Because what I am because 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:42.800 this is after all year long, you embarrass me by 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.360 crushing your teasers while I just scuttle along as a 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:52.040 five hundred picker of games. You then come the playoffs, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.480 decide you're gonna start picking games too, and you're crushing me. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:02.840 It's just a total a bockle on my end, what's happened? 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.680 And so yeah, I mean that's not I'm certain, Well 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.240 that's what I think. I think maybe next year we 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.959 each do five picks, you know, unrelated to each other, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.319 and maybe I also start doing a teaser. Maybe I 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:27.240 drink your milkshake a little bit, and so so there's that. Oh, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.760 I mean, it's a line from my favorite movie of 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:35.240 all time, and so the I drink your milkshake. So 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:42.240 here's the deal. Yeah, there you go. Tomorrow's show is 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.760 our gambling show and our pick show. There are only 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.160 two games, so that would be a very very short show. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:53.200 So we are what we would typically do here. We're 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.240 previewing this weekend's games on Thursday. We're gonna save most 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.560 of the preview of the two conference championship games four 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:05.320 tomorrow wrap it into our pick show. So that is 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.560 why the docket is what the docket is today. So today, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.600 you know, there's still plenty of news to get to 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.440 and we will get to all of it, including some 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.880 really interesting Lakers reporting that we will get to later 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.120 in the show, and the NFL Awards ballots, the awards finalists, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.119 I should say, coming out all of that. But we're 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.520 going to start the show with the Bills press conference 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.600 disaster class room yesterday. But before we do that, let's 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.880 go straight to voicemail, brought to you by our friends 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.919 at boost Mobile. Warriors General Ander Mike Dunlevy with listen, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.000 I just got to say it a good legit bar 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.640 when talking about Jonathan Kaminga's trade demand quote in terms 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.840 of demand. When you make a demand, there needs to 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.120 be a demand on the market. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.400 Dam Now, I feel bad for Johnathan kaming on on 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:01.800 over there with him in the Warriors. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.440 I mean it's they. I mean, this is like the 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.720 seventh different iteration of them being unhappy with each other. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.200 I as good as that line is. I do wonder 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.280 if dun Levy had he known Jimmy Butler was gonna 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.920 go down with a torn acl if he would have 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.560 maybe kept that in his holster a bit. The Knicks 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.680 have a player's only meeting and then beat the Nets 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:31.120 by fifty four points, and Baker Mayfield welcomes Kevin Stefanski 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.120 to the NFC South by saying he's still waiting on 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.560 a call and text from him after he got shipped 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.400 off like a piece of garbage. Can't wait to see 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:47.400 it twice a year, coach, Very quickly important, this very 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:55.280 succinct tweet. There's some real wisdom that can be learned 0:03:55.320 --> 0:04:05.880 from it, and that is always make the uncomfortable effort, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:12.920 because if you don't, it will sit with you and 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.279 with the other person like that is. I'm not going 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.640 to trying to be too deep. I'm not, but the 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:26.760 the everyone you always end up. Let me rephrase it. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:37.880 You never regret the final chapter phone call, text, note, email, whatever, 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.920 and you almost always do regret if you can never 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.119 get the stomach up to do it. And I've done 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:51.000 I've had both sides of that coin, where I have 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.520 or I haven't. Now people might be thinking, I'm like 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:59.960 giving relationship advice here. This isn't like romantic relationship advice, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.640 because that's something that I don't have experience in like 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:11.000 I've been I've been in one relationship for basically the 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.280 entirety of my twenties and all of my thirties, and 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:20.080 I'm now in my forties. But I have had people 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:27.240 that I worked with very closely for years that then 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.160 left and I no longer worked with them, And I 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.119 know the sick feeling I'm sure Kevin Stefanski had of man, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.680 do I this is not going to be a fun 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:45.800 conversation with Baker Mayfield, But years later, I'm sure he 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.400 wishes he had done it, and you the since and 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.560 I have been in the spot where there's a couple 0:05:54.640 --> 0:06:00.320 people that I never made that phone caller text, and 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.360 I to this day I'm like, well, I mean, it's 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.800 obviously too late now and you just feel badly about it, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.440 and you always feel better on the other side of 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.880 it having done it, even if the actual experience of 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.960 it is uncomfortable. So you know, I know that this 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.920 is maybe a little deeper than we thought we'd started 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.640 the show with. But I saw that and I was like, man, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.200 that's a that is that there's a life lesson in there, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.320 and you know it was to me, it's one worth 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.640 spending a moment on. All right. Reminder everybody like rate 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.279 subscribe review to the show because not only do you 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.640 get I mean, just the greatest sports takes around, but 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.760 occasionally you get like, wow, maybe that actually will improve 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.160 my life a little bit of I wouldn't call it 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.320 life advice, but just you know, wisdom from someone that's 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.240 made a lot of mistakes on things like that and 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:56.400 wants people to do better, and so subscribe to the pod. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.760 It helps us out. We really do appreciate it. Demanse, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.960 the Bills owner and New Grand Pooba CEO of Everything 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.600 Brandon Bean, had a press conference. It was interesting, I 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.200 could talk about this for six hours. Yeah, I'll try 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.040 to limit it to like twenty minutes. Let's get into it. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.440 The Bills have given you some more fire, some more 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.560 stuff to talk about. So the Bill season ended last 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.280 week and the owner came out and threw McDermott in 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.840 the second year Keon coleman ar receiver under the bus, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.280 saying that that was McDermott's guy, that was his thing. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.240 As a former Bills hater, this has got to make 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.280 you pretty happy. Huh. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.240 Well, no, I mean no, I'm not gonna say it 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:44.880 makes me happy. It was a window into I had 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.480 been saying that I think the Bill's job is better 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:49.520 than the Raven's job. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:50.600 Yeah. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.720 And the reason I am focused on, by the way, 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.320 on these job openings is and I do not think 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:05.520 this can be reiterated enough, these types of jobs demonse 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:15.320 never come open. MVP quarterback who's not yet thirty that 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:23.760 job being open. In the last fifty five years of 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:30.120 the NFL, there has been one other MVP quarterback in 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.840 his thirties who had a head coach opening. Is Brett Farv. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:39.160 And Farv's job came open for very different reasons. Mike 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.680 Holmgren was the coach of the Packers. They won a 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.720 Super Bowl with far they went to another one. He 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:51.599 then wanted more power he wanted to be the GM 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.640 and head coach. The Packers wouldn't give him that job, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.720 so he resigned, and so that created the opening. He 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.440 went to Seattle to go do it there and they 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:08.199 hired a guy named Ray Rhodes. Ray Rhodes lasted one year. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.079 They then fired him and they hired Mike Sherman. So 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:18.800 the prior to two weeks ago, the only MVP quarterback 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.800 in their prime in their thirties who had ever dealt 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.720 with a head coach vacancy was Brett fav and had 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.800 happened twice, but under very different circumstances. They didn't want 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.080 to move on from the initial coach, and then they 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.640 hired the wrong guy they felt in Ray Rhodes. We 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:41.080 have two of them right now, Lamar and Josh Allen, 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:49.440 and so it is Aaron Rodgers having a head coach opening. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.600 When they moved on from Mike McCarthy to Matt Lafleur 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:59.240 when he's in his mid late thirties was surprising, if 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:05.640 not shocking. Hayton Manning in Denver and you might be like, wait, 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.959 did they changed coaches in Indie with Peyton? But he 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.400 hadn't won an MVP yet like that was when he 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:16.040 was very young. So this is stunning that this exists. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.680 And I just it is a seismic event in the 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.480 NFL for one of these jobs to be open, much 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.640 less two of the jobs to be open. To get 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.040 back to what I was saying, I had been saying, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.520 the Bill's job is a better job than the Ravens job. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:39.080 But man, Steve Bushatti gave a press conference and you're like, oh, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.959 I can see why that guy is so successful. Matter 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:48.200 of fact, seems to you know, own the room, very 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.400 assured of himself, knows what he's doing. And I watched 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.600 Terry Pagoula and I was like, oh boy, it's not great, 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.880 and so that I don't know if it's enough to 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.680 jump the Raven's job in my mind ahead the Bill's job, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:05.480 but it is instructive. The other thing that was very instructive, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.480 and I want to be again, I don't know if 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.360 Terry Pegoula is telling the truth or not telling the truth, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.640 but you got to take him at his word on 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.839 at least some of this stuff, or let me rephrase it, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.760 you have to at least be open to the possibility 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:33.200 that he's telling the truth. And Terry Pegoola confirmed something 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:39.439 that I hypothesized on TV and on this pod earlier 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:46.120 this week, that he determined they had to fire Sean 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:55.880 McDermott essentially because of how devastated Josh Allen was. And 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:02.320 that's why I hammered and focused on Alan crying and 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.200 I was I knew it was. I was running the 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.920 risk of either sounding like a Neanderthal guy like men 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.000 don't cry. I've cried on this pod multiple times, like 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.240 that's not what That's not what I was trying to communicate. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:22.480 And I'm certainly as a guy uh that wears makeup 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.520 and talks for a living, wasn't at trying to act 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.200 like I'm mister tough guy compared to Josh freaking Allen. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:36.880 The reason I was hammering on he's that distraught that 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:42.040 he is sobbing in the locker room reportedly and teary 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.360 eyed at the press conference is that is a massive 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:52.360 signal that that team might be broken. And Terry Bagoula 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:57.000 comes out on Wednesday and says when he walks in 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.400 the locker room and Josh Allen, Allen doesn't even acknowledge 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:06.240 him because he's quote sobbing, That's when he knew they 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:10.840 had to change the coach, which also, again, this is 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:15.360 why it's a tough press conference de Monse. That's even 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.960 if that's true, that's a shitty thing to put on 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.880 Josh Allen's shoulders. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.960 Oh yeah, and also but he was Josh Allen played 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.240 poorly in the game. He was crying, but it's probably 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.120 because of something that he did though, I mean also 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.800 the game. But I mean you have to fire McDermott 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.920 because the result was so bad. But the result was 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.800 so bad directly related to Josh. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.640 Allen, right, Like, I guess I'll put a fine point 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.360 on what you're saying. I believe it would be more 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.320 damning for the you know, kind of trajectory of the 0:13:54.400 --> 0:14:00.640 team had that been Josh Allen's reaction after that lost 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.120 in a game he played awesome, where where it would 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.040 have just felt I think, I like what you What 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.720 I think you're getting at is Josh Allen was that 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.240 emotional because he felt like he let his team down 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.319 that not not necessarily that we're never gonna get over 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.760 the hump. Yeah, but I'm you know this on for 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.360 these three hours, I wasn't myself, I wasn't good. I 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.040 let the guys down and that, and so I think 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.680 that's the listen. That makes a lot of sense there. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:38.720 There's that the and Pagoula was you know, said he 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.160 did not going into that game. He did not think 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.400 he was gonna end up firing the coach even if 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.160 they lost. But then after the game, when he saw 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.200 the reactions, that's when he knew it. But he also 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:57.120 seemed very clearly to believe they lost because they got 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:02.040 robbed like that, So that lot it doesn't really he 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.760 said at the press conference, we lost because of a 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.080 bad call, and he said to Josh Allen, I thought 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:09.840 it was a catch. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.480 So those things are yeah. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.600 And so if you're Sean McDermott, you're like, what the hell, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.560 So you're saying, we thought you thought what I thought 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.200 that we won, but I'm fired because of it. And 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:29.000 so the whole thing seems let's call it haphazard. And 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:35.520 I say all that, but while acknowledging I do think 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.480 the Bills need to shake the snow globe. I do 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:45.560 think there is too much scar tissue from the sequence 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:52.360 of five years so they and I'm not gonna rehash 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.120 this fully, but I do think it informs why even 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.240 if the process was idiotic. Even if the press conference 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:05.040 wasn't embarrassed, that potentially changing the head coach had to 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.640 be done. Because in twenty twenty, you reach the AFC 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:15.520 Championship game ahead of schedule, Josh Allen explodes onto the 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:20.880 scene and his first real superstar year. The Chiefs clock you, 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.440 but that was peak peak early Chiefs defending Super Bowl 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.680 champs that year. They lost one game where Mahomes started that, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.320 you know, trying to go back to back, and in 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:40.800 the offseason you say your GM, Brandon Bean says, we 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.160 are obsessed with Kansas City. We are building a team 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.000 with them in mind. That's so twenty twenty is not 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.400 a Even though you lose in the AFC title game, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.440 you feel great about the year. And then after that 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:59.800 your season's end as follows the thirteen Seconds game, which 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:04.720 they're still not over. Clearly still not over. That was 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:14.560 five years ago, still not over. The next year, you 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:19.639 have the Damar Hamlin situation late in the year, and 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.239 then go into the playoffs and Cincinnati comes into your 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.239 building and just clocks you. And it does kind of 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:32.959 feel like that if because that Bill's performance in that 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:39.280 particular playoff game was so desparate from how we'd seen 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.680 them in playoff games before that. You wonder if having 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.199 a teammate die in front of you on the field 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.439 against the Bengals in the regular season and then playing 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.520 the Bengals in the playoffs if it was just too much. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.880 Then the next year, you finally have the Chiefs in 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.040 your building for the first time in the playoffs, and 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.439 you miss a field goal to tie the game. And 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.600 then the next year you're back in the AFC Championship 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.919 game for the first time since twenty twenty against the 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.639 Chiefs and you come up short. And then the next 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:21.600 year the Chiefs finally aren't in the playoffs, you're playing 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.960 a Broncos team, you have the lead in the fourth quarter, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.480 and you lose in overtime and feel like, even though 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:33.120 you're incorrect on this, you got screwed. So I do 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.760 think there's just too much scar tissue. You probably needed 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:43.479 to move on. But the messaging was so clunky. And 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:52.160 here's where the Keon Coleman thing I think is most interesting, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:58.080 because obviously demons like they torched the kid, and the 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.600 owner torch the team, and all that he's still on 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:06.719 the team at a position you have no depth, he 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.640 has cost controlled, he's young, he's still obviously has potential 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.240 and maybe and you would have wanted in theory demanse 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:22.240 the next head coach to evaluate him and make a decision. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.480 Do you think you know you can he's basically playing 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.240 for free as a second round pick on a rookie deal, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:35.720 or should we cut bait? But now because of what 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.160 was said about him at the press conference where people 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.440 are like, no, the guy who's still here didn't want him, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:47.080 and the guy who's not here did want him. So 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:51.639 that's obviously clunky and bad for all involved. And Brandon 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.639 Bean tried to clean it up after. But here is 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.560 what to me is instructive about that. Forget the fact 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.840 that there is plenty of the Bills that have you 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.520 seen any of on Twitter? Demansey, the the clips of 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.399 the Bills draft documentary from the Keon Coleman Draft. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.880 No, but it is it seems like it contradicts what 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:17.680 the owner was. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.680 Well, Brandon Bean certainly seems excited about being able to 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:30.560 draft Keon Coleman like that, and so and it again, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.959 maybe he's putting on a good, brave face. Do I 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:37.040 believe that maybe there was a player available at thirty 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.520 three that Bean had slightly higher than Keon Coleman. But sure, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.040 but it doesn't at no point does it seem like 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.480 being is you know, exactly right, and it is his 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:52.320 his decision. The other piece of the and I'm gonna 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.840 get back to the Keon Coleman thing, but this is important. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.600 The other piece of the press conference that was noteworthy 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:08.400 was Brandon be getting very animated talking about how devastated he, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.399 his wife, his family have been by some of the 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.000 commentary that he stabbed Sean McDermott in the back and 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.199 questioning his character and son, who he is, any of 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.080 those things. And I'm not alludging he stabbing anybody in 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:30.639 the back. I am saying this. Somebody told the owner 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:36.840 of the team at some point this year, the front office, 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:41.480 meaning Brandon Bean, did not want Kean Coleman, the coaching 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:48.680 staff did. Somebody told him that, And the most obvious 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.239 answer as to who would have told him that is 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.600 Brandon Bean. Now at the press conference, Brandon Bean then 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.280 tried to clean it up, and he's like, they're all 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.160 my picks, like it's my responsibility and blah blah blah. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.439 But I don't I'm not saying I'm not saying that 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:06.159 qualifies as stabbing anyone in the back, but there was 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.439 a level of that wasn't my pick. That was the 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.520 coaching staff's pick. But here Demond's is where And this 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.160 is the piece that I think people have skipped over. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:25.800 It makes it even more dysfunctional. Sean McDermott is a 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:30.720 head coach, obviously, but he's a defensive head coach. He 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.720 calls the defense, he's that's his side of the ball. 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:41.679 So if the coaching staff really liked Keon Coleman, the 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:47.199 loudest voice about which receiver we should take in the 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:53.280 draft of the coaching staff likely would not be McDermott. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:59.919 What would be the offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who is 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.159 still on the staff and interviewing to be the head coach. 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.320 So when the owners, like the GM didn't want the 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.920 player the coaches did, in all likely the coach who 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.040 wanted the player that you're so out on, you're flaming 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.960 at this press conference you are interviewing to maybe be 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:21.000 the next head coach. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:23.639 It ain't all over the place. 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:29.080 I mean it really, it ain't great, and. 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.080 I honestly think it'll be good for Coleman in a 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.040 weird way like here in this because I do think 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.880 he's a little, a little childish in his production obviously 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.080 wasn't what it needed to be this year, and I 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.600 think that I think that that might work out in 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.240 a more positive way than negative. He maybe ends up 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:45.879 leaving the team or they end up getting rid of him, 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.040 but I think if he's on the Bills next year, 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:50.040 have more production. 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:55.280 Wherever he is next year, whether it's Bills or elsewhere, 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.960 this right now is a fork in the road moment 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.720 for that young man's career. And work in the road 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.119 doesn't always mean good, don't the four You take the 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.080 fork in the road kaderas Tony took after the Chiefs 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.879 gave him chance after chance after chance, and you're no 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:16.080 longer Kadarious Tony NFL wide receiver, you're young Djoka, failing rapper, 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.840 and like that's the uh, you know, it's like but 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:30.119 the and sometimes the fork in the road moment or yeah, 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:36.080 or I mean, I we even outside of sports, a 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.800 lot of us in our early twenties. Both people on 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:45.879 this pod in our early twenties had moments of immense 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:51.800 failure and embarrassment, and it was all right. Is that 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.880 enough for me to be like grow up? 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:55.920 Yeah? 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.320 And you know what I mean, like for real and 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:03.680 that is like and so I the for Keon Coleman again, 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:09.760 the the half half full is I can prove all. 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:14.919 I can prove everyone wrong, whether it's with Buffalo or 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:21.320 wherever I am. I am going to the I've become 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.160 a punchline, and I am young enough and healthy enough 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.760 that it wouldn't be. I want to make sure. I 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.200 keep saying he's twenty two. I want to make sure 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.199 and I don't want to spend it. Yeah, I mean 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:37.040 Keon Coleman is he's played two years in the league, 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:38.600 but he came I was right about this. He came 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:43.280 in super young. He's twenty two. He turns twenty three 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.560 in May, so like he's younger than some receivers that 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.960 will be drafted this year. And so he just has 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:55.919 the opportunity to be like, I've got ten years of 0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:00.879 NFL football ahead of me to make this be you 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:06.600 know a sidebar of my story. And the other fork 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.800 in the road is he can watch that press conference 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.399 be like, man, f those guys. I'm going back to 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.560 bed and I don't know, like you know, what I'm saying, 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.800 but I'm not gonna and so that's but it does 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:24.199 make everything about this Bill's job is so interesting to me. 0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:33.800 And here's the other piece of it, demanse that as 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:38.320 as I'm talking to you, Brandon Cooks is on Good 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:43.240 Morning Football saying at the end of the day was 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:48.159 a catch, Yeah, got you gotta get over it. You can't. 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:52.280 That doesn't that doesn't move you forward. 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.480 He didn't even really act. It just does a catch 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:56.320 during the game. 0:26:56.600 --> 0:27:02.480 Well, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. He 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:08.400 did not respond like someone who thought they had caught 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:16.320 the balls responded like someone correct one correct, And we can't. 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.760 I don't think we have the rights to show and 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.919 I know we don't have the rights to show like 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:28.040 old NFL footage on here, but it's worth a it's 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:34.000 worth a Google or thrown into YouTube for folks. During 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:43.560 the game where the nineties playoffs Packers Niners, the game 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.800 where Terrell Owens made the you know, one of the 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.200 greatest catches, Young too catches it in the end zone 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:54.200 and gets annihilated to win a playoff game against Brett 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:58.959 Farbes Packers. Steve Young throws in the past on that drive, 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.040 or certainly in that game, Jerry Rice catches the ball, 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.399 has it stripped, like when he's upright, the ball is 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.000 stripped and the ball basically rolls right down his leg. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.160 I'm doing this from memory, but I know I'm right, 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:24.480 and he just kind of nonchalantly grabs the ball, signals 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.240 first down and jogs to the huddle. And his lack 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:33.359 of reaction is why nobody realized it was a fumble 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:39.080 like his. He was so like it. He didn't like 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.040 it was no panic, no even quick move like anything, 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.000