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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll driving the Great episode four eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: this episode, as always, is presented to you by our

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Speaker 1: great friends at boost Mobile. Demand's a good morning. Great

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Speaker 1: to see you. I'm a little upset with you. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna get this out of the way here.

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Speaker 2: Like I might notice all maybe I don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I'm interested because I'm certain you don't know

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Speaker 1: what it's about. So now I'm a little curious what

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Speaker 1: you thought it was about. But we can save that

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Speaker 1: maybe for off the air. Because what I am because

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Speaker 1: this is after all year long, you embarrass me by

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Speaker 1: crushing your teasers while I just scuttle along as a

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Speaker 1: five hundred picker of games. You then come the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: decide you're gonna start picking games too, and you're crushing me.

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Speaker 1: It's just a total a bockle on my end, what's happened?

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean that's not I'm certain, Well

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Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think maybe next year we

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Speaker 1: each do five picks, you know, unrelated to each other,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I also start doing a teaser. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: drink your milkshake a little bit, and so so there's that. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a line from my favorite movie of

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Speaker 1: all time, and so the I drink your milkshake. So

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. Yeah, there you go. Tomorrow's show is

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Speaker 1: our gambling show and our pick show. There are only

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Speaker 1: two games, so that would be a very very short show.

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Speaker 1: So we are what we would typically do here. We're

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Speaker 1: previewing this weekend's games on Thursday. We're gonna save most

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Speaker 1: of the preview of the two conference championship games four

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Speaker 1: tomorrow wrap it into our pick show. So that is

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Speaker 1: why the docket is what the docket is today. So today,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's still plenty of news to get to

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Speaker 1: and we will get to all of it, including some

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Speaker 1: really interesting Lakers reporting that we will get to later

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Speaker 1: in the show, and the NFL Awards ballots, the awards finalists,

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Speaker 1: I should say, coming out all of that. But we're

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Speaker 1: going to start the show with the Bills press conference

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Speaker 1: disaster class room yesterday. But before we do that, let's

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Speaker 1: go straight to voicemail, brought to you by our friends

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Speaker 1: at boost Mobile. Warriors General Ander Mike Dunlevy with listen,

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Speaker 1: I just got to say it a good legit bar

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Speaker 1: when talking about Jonathan Kaminga's trade demand quote in terms

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Speaker 1: of demand. When you make a demand, there needs to

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Speaker 1: be a demand on the market.

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Speaker 2: Dam Now, I feel bad for Johnathan kaming on on

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Speaker 2: over there with him in the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's they. I mean, this is like the

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Speaker 1: seventh different iteration of them being unhappy with each other.

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Speaker 1: I as good as that line is. I do wonder

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Speaker 1: if dun Levy had he known Jimmy Butler was gonna

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Speaker 1: go down with a torn acl if he would have

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Speaker 1: maybe kept that in his holster a bit. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: have a player's only meeting and then beat the Nets

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Speaker 1: by fifty four points, and Baker Mayfield welcomes Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: to the NFC South by saying he's still waiting on

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Speaker 1: a call and text from him after he got shipped

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Speaker 1: off like a piece of garbage. Can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: it twice a year, coach, Very quickly important, this very

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Speaker 1: succinct tweet. There's some real wisdom that can be learned

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Speaker 1: from it, and that is always make the uncomfortable effort,

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Speaker 1: because if you don't, it will sit with you and

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Speaker 1: with the other person like that is. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to trying to be too deep. I'm not, but the

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Speaker 1: the everyone you always end up. Let me rephrase it.

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Speaker 1: You never regret the final chapter phone call, text, note, email, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you almost always do regret if you can never

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Speaker 1: get the stomach up to do it. And I've done

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Speaker 1: I've had both sides of that coin, where I have

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Speaker 1: or I haven't. Now people might be thinking, I'm like

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Speaker 1: giving relationship advice here. This isn't like romantic relationship advice,

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Speaker 1: because that's something that I don't have experience in like

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Speaker 1: I'm now in my forties. But I have had people

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Speaker 1: and you know it was to me, it's one worth

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Speaker 1: It helps us out. We really do appreciate it. Demanse,

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Speaker 1: the Bills owner and New Grand Pooba CEO of Everything

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, had a press conference. It was interesting, I

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Speaker 1: could talk about this for six hours. Yeah, I'll try

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Speaker 1: to limit it to like twenty minutes. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have given you some more fire, some more

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Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. So the Bill season ended last

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Speaker 2: week and the owner came out and threw McDermott in

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Speaker 2: saying that that was McDermott's guy, that was his thing.

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Speaker 2: As a former Bills hater, this has got to make

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Speaker 2: you pretty happy. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean no, I'm not gonna say it

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Speaker 1: makes me happy. It was a window into I had

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Speaker 1: been saying that I think the Bill's job is better

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Speaker 1: And the reason I am focused on, by the way,

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Speaker 1: this can be reiterated enough, these types of jobs demonse

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Speaker 1: never come open. MVP quarterback who's not yet thirty that

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Speaker 1: And Farv's job came open for very different reasons. Mike

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Speaker 1: And I just it is a seismic event in the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and also but he was Josh Allen played

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Speaker 1: Allen, right, Like, I guess I'll put a fine point

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Speaker 1: on what you're saying. I believe it would be more

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Speaker 1: that's the listen. That makes a lot of sense there.

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Speaker 1: There's that the and Pagoula was you know, said he

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Speaker 1: seemed very clearly to believe they lost because they got

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Speaker 2: All right. So we're on games to talk about. So

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Speaker 2: number one pick, which are probably Bendoza to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so lit No, well, you might just become a

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Speaker 1: Raider fan. You can just you can just follow Lamar.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Lamar and genty would be pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I I don't I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: this and I didn't just create this out of thin air.

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Speaker 1: The ESPN did like bold predictions for the offseason, and

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Speaker 1: one of them was, could Tom Brady and the Raiders

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Speaker 1: make a play for Lamar Jackson. I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I think the Raiders, after watching them and believing in

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Speaker 1: them this year, are you know, close enough to make

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Speaker 1: a move even for Lamar Jackson. However, I am more

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Speaker 1: interested in this from the Ravens side of it, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know who the next Ravens head coach is

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Speaker 1: going to be, but whomever it is, I think in

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Speaker 1: the universe where this was available, you get the equivalent,

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Speaker 1: I believe of demand's a five first round picks, the

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Speaker 1: equivalent of five first round picks for Lamar and by

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Speaker 1: that I mean Max Crosby on the open market is

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Speaker 1: worth two firsts. And we know the number one pick,

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Speaker 1: given the Bryce Young trade, it's equivalent the equivalent that

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Speaker 1: it's worth is a little more than three, you know,

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Speaker 1: middle average first round picks. I know number one pick

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Speaker 1: is literally one first round pick, but it's in order

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Speaker 1: to get it you would have to trade like the

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Speaker 1: fifteenth pick and to future first to move up that far.

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Speaker 1: So this is the equivalent of you know, call it

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Speaker 1: five first round picks, and you would not be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well now we're in the quarterback wilderness, because

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Speaker 1: now you might end up being if Mendoza is not

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Speaker 1: the guy. But you're not trading for the number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick blind saying you know, or trading for a

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Speaker 1: future year pick when you don't know who the players

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Speaker 1: are that you'd be taking. You would know you are

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Speaker 1: taking Fernando Mendoza. And the point that the reason I

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Speaker 1: find this interesting from the Ravens perspective, this theoretical fake

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Speaker 1: trade that ESPN alluded to it. And then I put

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Speaker 1: a fine tooth comb on, or a finer point on

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Speaker 1: I should say, I do think that it is a

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Speaker 1: legitimate discussion. What is a better path to winning a

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Speaker 1: championship young quarterback on a rookie scale plus Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: plus the extra forty some million dollars of cap space

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Speaker 1: to build out the rest of the roster, or Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: who will enter next year undoubtedly as the highest paid

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Speaker 1: player in the league on a sixty plus million dollar

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Speaker 1: a year contract. And it is worth noting the two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls the Ravens have won, they won with cheap

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and stacked rosters. The Denver Broncos are attempting this

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Speaker 1: right now. I know bo Nix is now out, but

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Speaker 1: young quarterback, all this talent around them. The Patriots, I,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't think they actually have all that much

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Speaker 1: talent around them. I think what the job May and

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Speaker 1: Vrabil have done's unbelievable. But they spent money this offseason.

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Speaker 1: They have more money to spend this next offseason. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not breaking news. That good young, cheap quarterback who

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Speaker 1: gives you franchise quarterback play on rookie quarterback salary at

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Speaker 1: a bunch of pieces has been a very successful model.

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Speaker 1: And then when you add to it what I think

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Speaker 1: could be some squeamishness for the Ravens of a brand

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Speaker 1: new contract for Lamar after at the very least we

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Speaker 1: can call it an injury riddled year. I think it's

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Speaker 1: worth a real discussion, and it is. I also want

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Speaker 1: to make this part clear. This is not an insult

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Speaker 1: to Lamar, because if I were the Raiders, I would

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Speaker 1: not like. Let let me again, this is we're playing

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Speaker 1: in double hypothetical worlds here. But let's say the Raiders

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Speaker 1: offered this to the Ravens, Max Crosby and the number

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Speaker 1: one pick for Lamar and the rape, and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: said no, thank you, And then the Bengals heard it

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Speaker 1: had been offered and they called the Raiders and they said,

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Speaker 1: we'll take it for Joe Burrow. If I'm the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is worth the number one overall pick plus Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: because even with Lamar uh having an injury riddled year, Joe,

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Speaker 1: to me is is an even bigger injury risk than Lamar,

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Speaker 1: and Joe has not shown consistent regular season, first team

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Speaker 1: All Pro level play the way Joe has one year

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Speaker 1: like that in his career, the way Lamar has. So

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Speaker 1: it is there are only three veteran quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: league that if I were the Raiders, I would offer

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Speaker 1: this package up for Lamar, Josh and Patrick. Obviously the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Bills. There's nothing you could offer those

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Speaker 1: teams to get them to trade Josh or Patrick. The Ravens,

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Speaker 1: given how this last year went, the new head coach

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Speaker 1: Lamar's pending contract situation, I just wonder if the door

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Speaker 1: is creaked open to the point of if the Ravens

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Speaker 1: derive considering this, why would they have fired Harball again?

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Speaker 1: Now we're in like quadruple hypotheticals. What I will tell

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Speaker 1: you is this they if they wanted the Hardball Lamar relationship,

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Speaker 1: that partnership could not continue, and had they kept Harball,

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Speaker 1: then Lamar really has a hammer because he also does

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Speaker 1: have a no trade clause in his deal. So you

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Speaker 1: might say, Nick, you're talking about the trade, he has

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Speaker 1: no trade clause. Players again can wave those and can

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Speaker 1: make it, can decide, you know, kind of steer where

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Speaker 1: they want to go potentially because of it. I just

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Speaker 1: think it is not I think the lam contract is

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Speaker 1: going to be a big enough story this offseason that

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Speaker 1: this is of all the fake trades that exist to

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Speaker 1: monse this is not total whole cloth like that. I

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Speaker 1: do think that there will be some of that discussion

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Speaker 1: over the offseason. So you're I'm not predicting it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen.

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Speaker 2: Crosby, Mendoza and no more picks or like that's it

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Speaker 2: for no.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying first.

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Speaker 2: Round picks, right, No.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, what I'm I'm what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. To acquire that by itself

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Speaker 1: usually takes three first round picks, and to acquire Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby would take two first round picks. So I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this is the equivalent in value of five first round picks.

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Speaker 1: But the trade would be essentially Fernando Mendoza and Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby for Lamar Jackson and and so you're out on

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Speaker 1: it most people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean if it were multiple, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was going to be multiple. I see what you're

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Speaker 2: saying in it being multiple first to equal the number

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Speaker 2: one pick of the draft. But yeah, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: that's not enough. I need some more retooling if we're

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Speaker 2: getting rid of Lamar.

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Speaker 1: But so, well, that's the thing is this, I don't

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Speaker 1: think And by the way.

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Speaker 2: Get all the money off of Lamar's contract.

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Speaker 1: Right, and it wouldn't just be here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't be doing this being like all right, we're rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: You'd be doing it saying.

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Speaker 2: We have we saw the windows right now.

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Speaker 1: The Commanders, the Patriots, the Bears, and the Broncos in

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Speaker 1: the last two years have all made the divisional rounder

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Speaker 1: further with a quarterback that was either a rookie or

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Speaker 1: in his second year, like we are we are going

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Speaker 1: for this right now?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I want to just gus this Baxter Holmes, Lakers, Genie

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Speaker 1: bus lebron story. You guys tell me the I don't

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Speaker 1: mind demand's background being off. We can fix that later. There,

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Speaker 1: Oh it's back, look at that. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday Baxter Holmes of ESPN dropped a story about

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Speaker 2: the sale of the Lakers and the piece they also

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Speaker 2: discussed how Genie buss grew frustrated with Lebron and didn't

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Speaker 2: even want to sign him to a new contract in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, even talked about shipping them off to

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Speaker 2: the Clippers. Uh, what do you make of all this?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple and Genie Busses today came out

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Speaker 1: and you know, basically refuted some of this. Let me

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Speaker 1: say this on the front end. The thrust of this

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Speaker 1: story is not about Lebron and everyone should read the story.

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Speaker 1: It is superb reporting by a superb reporter in Baxter Holmes,

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Speaker 1: who does great work, really great work for ESPN, And

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Speaker 1: you know, it is very long and very good about

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Speaker 1: the Bus family and the sale of the Lakers. Okay

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Speaker 1: that if I were doing Los Angeles talk radio, that

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Speaker 1: would be one of them, the major topic of the

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Speaker 1: care about the palace intrigue of the Bus family sale

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Speaker 1: of the Lakers. So I'm going to focus on the

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Speaker 1: Lebron piece of it because I am interested in that.

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Speaker 1: But I again, I just want to give credit to

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Speaker 1: the story and a Baxter for and say on the

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Speaker 1: front end, this is not the general plot point of

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Speaker 1: the story. But I'm going to read you the Lebron

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Speaker 1: section and then I'm going to briefly explain why it

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Speaker 1: enrages me from Baxterme's story, team sources told ESPN she

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Speaker 1: even began to turn against the Lakers star player Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Jeanie privately grumbled, people close to the team say about

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Speaker 1: what she felt was James's outsized ego and the overt

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Speaker 1: control that he and Clutch Sports, which represents both James

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Speaker 1: and Davis, exerted over the organization. She didn't like that

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Speaker 1: James was considered a savior for a floundering franchise when

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Speaker 1: he arrived in twenty eighteen, and that it was he

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Speaker 1: who chose the Lakers rather than the team's leadership, receiving

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Speaker 1: praise for landing him. More on that in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Team sources have been adamant for years that James's camp

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Speaker 1: and four in the Lakers early as twenty seventeen that

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Speaker 1: he was coming to join them when he became a

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Speaker 1: free agent the following year. The distance between Genie and

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Speaker 1: James widened after the Lakers traded for Russell Westbrook in

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Speaker 1: July of twenty twenty one. The team had made the

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Speaker 1: trade an effort to appease James, but the acquisition backfired

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Speaker 1: in catastrophic fashion. LA went thirty three and forty nine,

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, and James seemed to wash his hands

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Speaker 1: of his role in the acquisition. Geenie privately bristled about

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Speaker 1: what she felt was his lack of accountability and the

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Speaker 1: way James would shift blame onto others after the Westbrook trade,

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Speaker 1: people said in twenty twenty two, in the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: the Westbrook trade, multiple people said Genie privately mused about

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Speaker 1: not giving James a contract extension, even about trading James

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Speaker 1: with the Clippers floated as a possibility. This was before

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Speaker 1: James received a contract extension with a no trade clause

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Speaker 1: for two years, one hundred and four million dollars, and

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Speaker 1: when the Lakers drafted James's son, Bronnie with a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifth pick, Genie privately remarked that James should be

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Speaker 1: grateful for such a gesture, but she felt he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That summer she discussed new contract for James, Genie seemed

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Speaker 1: Moore resigned to the fact that they'd have to do it,

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Speaker 1: almost begrudgingly accepting they'd take a massive pr hit by

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Speaker 1: not doing so. Okay, the reason this, that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the piece, and now this is me not reading the

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Speaker 1: pieces talking. The reason Lebron James considered himself a savior

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Speaker 1: for a floundering franchise was simply because he was a

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Speaker 1: savior for a floundering franchise. It's not complicated, it's not weird,

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Speaker 1: it's not hard to fucking parse. The reason Lebron considered

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Speaker 1: the Lakers a floundering franchise is because before he got there,

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Speaker 1: they were a floundering franchise. And the reason he considered

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Speaker 1: himself a savior was because within two years of getting there,

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Speaker 1: they won the championship. The Los Angeles Lakers had never

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Speaker 1: been bad back to Minneapolis Demanse their second year in

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Speaker 1: existence in the league. Actually, no, pardon me, their first

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Speaker 1: year in existence, when they went from the Detroit gyms

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Speaker 1: who were bad to the Minneapolis Lakers. With George Mikeen

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Speaker 1: they won the championship. They then won a bunch more

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Speaker 1: championships in the fifties. Then in the sixties they went

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Speaker 1: to the finals almost every year, lost to the Celtics

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Speaker 1: a bunch. Then in the seventies they got Kareem Abdul

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Speaker 1: Jabbar and then in the eighties were the most successful

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Speaker 1: team in the NBA. Then in the nineties they had

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Speaker 1: had their one tiny downturn, which was a thirty three

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Speaker 1: win team that missed the playoffs, and shortly thereafter they

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Speaker 1: got Shaquille O'Neal and drafted Kobe Bryan or traded for him,

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Speaker 1: and they were awesome again, the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm

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Speaker 1: giving the full context here prior to the twenty tens demonse.

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Speaker 1: Here is the full list of years they were not

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, either Minneapolis or Los Angeles. Nineteen fifty eight, Okay,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five and seventy six, that's when they traded

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Speaker 1: for Kareem, nineteen ninety four and two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: That's the list. From the fifties until the twenty tens,

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Speaker 1: they had always been excellent Florishi and then in the

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Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs

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Speaker 1: five times and won the following number of games twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: twenty one, seventeen, twenty six, thirty five. So all of

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Speaker 1: Lakers history five years missed the playoffs from Minneapolis to

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Speaker 1: La across Damn near sixty five years. And then the

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Speaker 1: five years before Lebron got there, they missed the playoffs

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Speaker 1: five times. Their finishes in the Western Conference again, fifteen

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Speaker 1: teams in the Western Conference the five years before Lebron

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Speaker 1: got there fourteenth, fourteenth, fifteenth, fourteenth, eleventh, they were arguably

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Speaker 1: the worst team in basketball for a half decade. That

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Speaker 1: is a floundering franchise that was saved one. Some people

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Speaker 1: think that if you save something or someone, you might

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Speaker 1: consider yourself a savior by Lebron James wanting to move

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, not by Rob Bolenka or Jeanie Buss's

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Speaker 1: fancy PowerPoint presentation. So that is what happened. Now, does

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Speaker 1: Lebron have an outsized ego? I've heard that does Clutch

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Speaker 1: sports exhibit a lot of influence over the Lakers? Seems

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Speaker 1: to be did Lebron James want Russell Westbrook? Yes? Did

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Speaker 1: that work out? No? Well, Lebron James wanted a bunch

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Speaker 1: of things. Lebron James wanted Tylo to be his coach.

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Speaker 1: They said no to that. Lebron James wanted Paul George

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Speaker 1: on the Lakers. That didn't happen. Lebron. There's plenty of

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Speaker 1: things Lebron wanted they didn't do, and plenty of things

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Speaker 1: Lebron wanted they did do. The Lakers choosing to say

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Speaker 1: yes to the request for Russell Westbrook because the Lakers

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Speaker 1: brand is Stars when they had said no to other

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Speaker 1: things and yes to other things, and then acting like

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Speaker 1: Lebron is the one who called it into the league

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Speaker 1: office and washing their hands of it entirely, but then

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Speaker 1: also whining about Lebron helping them get Anthony Davis, which

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Speaker 1: then allowed them to get Luke ad Ancic and win

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Speaker 1: a championship is laughable. And complaining to people a year

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Speaker 1: after the guy wins Finals MVP for you and you

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Speaker 1: win a championship that you don't want to give him

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Speaker 1: a contract extension and you might actually trade him only

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Speaker 1: to give him a two year max contract extension with

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Speaker 1: a no trade clause is laughable. Doctor Jerry Buss was

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest owners in the history of pro basketball.

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Speaker 1: Genie Buss, by all accounts, is an incredibly nice person

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Speaker 1: who has a lot of friends in the media. The

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Speaker 1: new owners of the Lakers are going to get the

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Speaker 1: team back on the track it had been for doctor

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Speaker 1: Jerry Buss's entire tenure, and the track that it had

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Speaker 1: fallen off of entirely until Lebron James came to Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles and saved the damn team. Are you thinking about

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Speaker 1: Terms do apply, all right, DEMONSI let's go down to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Awards piece of this, because we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have enough time to do everything that I want to do,

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Speaker 1: so let's do that here.

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Speaker 2: So list of finalists drop for NFL Awards. You still

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Speaker 2: do not have a vote, so you have to make

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Speaker 2: your picks here. So what would your picks be for these?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so listen MVP the finalists are literally and this

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Speaker 1: makes me happy. The five finalists I would have had

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Speaker 1: Stafford May, Allen, Christian McCaffrey, who I'm very glad to

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Speaker 1: see was a finalist, and Trevor Lawrence, and so all

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Speaker 1: of that is. I maybe would have flipped in Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett for Josh, but I probably not. These were in

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Speaker 1: my finalists. My ballot of these five would be Stafford won,

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Speaker 1: Drake May two, Christian McCaffery three, Trevor Lawrence four, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen five. And I'm so happy for Trevor that he's

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Speaker 1: an MVP finalist. That is sick. All right, Next one,

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Speaker 1: de Monse, tell me the category and the nominee.

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Speaker 2: So we got Coach of the Year. We got Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, Mike McDonald, Kyle Shanahan, and Mike.

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Speaker 1: Raywell, my vote for this would be Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought the fact that that team was playing for

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Speaker 1: the one seed the final week of the year. I

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Speaker 1: know the playoffs don't count in this, but they ended

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Speaker 1: up going to Philly and winning a playoff game, dealing

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Speaker 1: with all those injuries there. I mean the other four candidate,

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Speaker 1: all five of these guys, Demonse have an unbelievable case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Ben Johnson, Liam Gohen and Mike Rabele all

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Speaker 1: taking four five win teams from last year and getting

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Speaker 1: them they all won their division. They all, you know,

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Speaker 1: were two or three seeds like that was remarkable. Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald getting to the fourteen wins with Seattle, but my

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Speaker 1: vote would be for Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Next. Next we got Assistant Coach of the Year Brian Flores,

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Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak of Vic Fangio, Josh McDaniels, and Vance Joseph.

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Speaker 1: I want to say this on the front end. I

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Speaker 1: am surprised Robert Salah was not nominate. It was not

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Speaker 1: one of the finalists.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I thought that he had done an amazing job in

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Speaker 1: the league. Agrees he got a head coaching job out

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Speaker 1: of it. My vote here, So if people don't know,

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, decordinator for the Vikings, Clint Kubiak, offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, Vick Fangio de coordinator for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator for the Patriots, Vance Joseph defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Broncos. My vote here would be Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: I think that when you have a second year quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Drake May and you cater an offense so beautifully

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Speaker 1: to his exact strengths. I don't think they have great

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Speaker 1: receivers or great running backs. They scored a ton of

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Speaker 1: point like they were just an elders all year long,

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Speaker 1: h offensively, So I would say Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: There next Offensive Player of the Year Pooka Nakula Vjhon Robinson,

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Jackson Smith and Jigula and Drake May gotta

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Speaker 2: be Pooker. Guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: M Pooker. It's tough for me. It would come down

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Speaker 1: to Pooker or CMC js N third, b Jon fourth,

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Speaker 1: and I like I Also, by the way, this is

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Speaker 1: the first real signal we have demons other than first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro that Matt Stafford won MVP.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that is Offensive Player of the Year as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a signal that people who voted Stafford.

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Speaker 2: MVP, like, we've got to get me something.

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Speaker 1: Gave Offensive Player of the Year and so like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the betting odds are right now for MVP,

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Speaker 1: but this piece of news to me would put Stafford

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Speaker 1: at minus five hundred. I think Stafford, like I am,

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Speaker 1: I wait for a lot of money the part it's

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Speaker 1: probably not no, But I don't think Listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Drake ma is gonna win Offensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Offnsive Player of the Year typically is another way to

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Speaker 1: say best non quarterback, and so Pooka or CMC would

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Speaker 1: be good with me. I would give it to c

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Speaker 1: mc uh just because I thought he was the Niners

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Speaker 1: offense this year.

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Speaker 2: All right, next, defensive Player of the Year, we got

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, Micah Parsons, Will Anderson, Junior, Aiden Hutchinson, and

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Speaker 2: Nick Benito. Micah Parsons is eligible.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he played thirteen games, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like, uh no, there's no there's no minimal there's in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, there's no they just it's whoever you know

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Speaker 1: where people got votes. But I mean, Miles Garrett's gonna

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Speaker 1: win it unanimously, so it doesn't matter. Like Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 1: obviously the answer. Here, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: We got comeback Player of the Year, Dak Prescott, Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 2: is Christian McCaffrey, Stefan Diggs, Trevor Lawrence, and Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Aiden because I think Aiden came back

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Speaker 1: from the worst injury of all these guys. Like remember

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Speaker 1: in the offseason you saw his two legs and one

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Speaker 1: looked way skinnier than the other, and like, and he

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Speaker 1: was excellent. So I'm gonna say Aiden.

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Speaker 2: Next next week, got offensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I'll go through the Sorry, I'll just because I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize how late we were. My offensive Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year would have been Teed McMillan, and my defensive Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the year, uh would have been uh probably Schwsinger schwushing. Here,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it wrong from the Browns. And also

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be Protector of the Year, the Auvinsive

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Speaker 1: Lineman of the Year, and I haven't seen those finalists.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they are. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the listener questions quick.

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Speaker 2: Mathemagical says, seriously, there will be Blood, the worst movie

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen, phenomenal acting, gorgeous cinematography, all for the

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Speaker 2: story that wasn't worth telling. Damn the.

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Speaker 1: That's Can I just say something mathemagical. You wrote a

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Speaker 1: comment that said a movie had phenomenal acting and gorgeous

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Speaker 1: cinematography and was the worst movie you've ever seen. That

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Speaker 1: does seem to be a little in conflict. I mean,

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Speaker 1: aside from the acting and the images, that movie sucked.

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Speaker 1: What I love that movie? I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 1: the I think it is arguably, with respect to The

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Speaker 1: Godfather one and two, I think it's arguably the greatest

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Speaker 1: movie ever made.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Davi asked if the Chargers don't have a

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Speaker 2: top five offense under the new OC, do they start

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Speaker 2: thinking about moving on from Herbert.

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Speaker 1: No, Herbert is not the type of quarterback you move

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Speaker 1: on from. But we are no, so these are different Herbert.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't get I would certainly trade Herbert for the

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Speaker 1: number one pick and Max Crossby, Like, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, To be clear, that's a fair point. My

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Speaker 1: point is like, so let me let me tweak what

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Speaker 1: I was saying. Herbert is not the type of quarterback

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Speaker 1: you move on from because it's like, ah, he's not

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Speaker 1: quite good enough, like the and Lamar. You wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: moving on from Lamar like that, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not the because he would go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he would, and he was so right the

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Speaker 1: when you're like, okay, this guy tua Is Kyler are

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Speaker 1: the guys, it's like they got paid, they don't have it.

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Speaker 1: We got to turn the page. My point is Herbert

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Speaker 1: is in a class above that. Lamar is in a

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Speaker 1: class wholly above that, where it's not so much about

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Speaker 1: like nobody's ever like we need to move on from

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. It's oh my god, look at the offer

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Speaker 1: we just got for Lamar Jackson, so to be I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you made that clarificate to that point. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter what the Sorry Chargers. It doesn't really

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Speaker 1: matter if they have top five offense or not. The

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Speaker 1: only thing people are gonna give If the Chargers offense

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Speaker 1: is stinks all year long and Herbert finally looks halfway decent,

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Speaker 1: let alone good in a playoff game, people will feel great.

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Speaker 1: And if the Chargers have a top five offense and

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Speaker 1: Herbert looks the way he's looked in all his other

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Speaker 1: playoff games again, then people will feel like he's just

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Speaker 1: never gonna get it, and so the you know, that's

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Speaker 1: just where it is, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next and JJ asked how much how come Lamar always

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Speaker 2: ends up in trade rumors when Dak hurts Joe make

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Speaker 2: more sense.

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Speaker 1: He's the only one of those guys that's ever demanded

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Speaker 1: a trade. Lamar Jackson demanded a trade three years ago when.

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Speaker 2: When they weren't given him a contract.

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Speaker 1: Excision correct, Yeah, that's what. Yeah, But I mean that's

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Speaker 1: why like that, those other guys and Dak. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there absolutely were Dak trade rumors around the time he

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Speaker 1: was negotiating a contract. Like Hurts and Burrow, they they've

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Speaker 1: been on smooth sailing. So that's why, like the Lamar contract,

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Speaker 1: stuff has been tricky in the past, and I'm not

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