WEBVTT - Segment 1 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lilli here with Matt Williamson. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.200 It's Friday Play, Sunday Night. Sunday Night Football, Baby, Monday 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.400 Night Football. I get you juices flowing a little bit, 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.639 a little bit. I mean, it looked better on the schedule, 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.520 I'm sure to the non Steeler Seahawks fans or even 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.239 the Steeler and Seahawks fans than original and you look 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.000 like a marquee matchup. But I think it's a great 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.840 situation for Pittsburgh in particular. One they can't pass up, 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.880 that's for sure. Or let's slip away and might be 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.440 kind of a part two of the get Right games, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.680 you know, Yeah, yeah, we'll see you know how this 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.040 all goes down. But um, you know, this is an 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.120 opportunity for the Steelers to get the three and three 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.600 m It's an opportunity to uh get into their bye 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:48.080 week with some rest. Um. The Browns a little beaten up. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.879 Browns are a little beaten up. Absolutely, division is in 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.200 a weird spot right now. Browns have a really tough 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.920 game coming up. And I think what you're alluding to 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.120 is Nick Chubb's out for that one. We just found 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.400 that out Ravens have a really tough game coming up, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.720 and I think the Chargers win that one, but we'll see. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.440 I mean, I mean, I don't want to say the 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.240 Ravens are a fraud, and I still think they're a 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.600 good team. Right. They're not a four and one team. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.160 They're not. They're not on level with They've gotten some bounces. Yeah, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.160 they're a lot closer to being a three and three 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.160 two and you know two or three and two two 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.080 and three team than they are. I mean, I think 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.959 the Chargers, if you were to do a power ranking now, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.400 are clearly better than the Ravens. I mean, I don't 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.360 care what the records are, just what they put out 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.080 onto the field week after week began credit. They found 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.480 a way to way and I'm not hacking on the 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.920 Ravens in any way. And I wonder where the Bengals 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.480 are at, you know, I mean, can they keep it 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.240 rolling and stay very relevant? I think they can. Yeah, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.200 I think they should win. I mean, this is the game, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.000 but the Lions have played everybody tough. They just haven't 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.240 bite you down to the end. They're the whole way 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.600 long line. So the division and even the conference are 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.320 really shaping up. And getting pretty interesting. But this is 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.680 a big game for the Steelers, and don't I assume 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.880 Steer Nations should not be taking it lightly like, oh, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.559 they'll just roll out there and win, like Stewards aren't 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.080 at that point that they can just roll it out 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.080 and win against anybody quite yet. Yeah, I agree. Um, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.680 you know, we'll see how this all plays out. Obviously, Uh, 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.120 the Seahawks will not have Russell Wilson for this game. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:24.080 He was actually listed as as a limited participant in 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.840 their practice yesterday. He was just out there running around 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.320 and you know he can do that. He's got a 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.560 broken finger or whatever. It's not like he's out there 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.840 throwing the football. But DK Metcalf was was on the 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.520 injury list. He was limited on Wednesday, didn't practice on Thursday. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.839 Chris Carson didn't practice yesterday. That this this is They're 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.560 not in a good place. No, I mean, they just 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:50.400 really aren't. I mean, I know, I'm a big strength 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.320 of scheduled guy, and I mean I'll be the first 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.560 to admit that this game looks a lot different on 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.440 paper in July and August than how it's gonna come before. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.200 I mean, again, it was it was the game everybody 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.280 was talking about in the spring when they added that 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.520 seventeen team. Oh my god, the Steelers have to play 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.480 the Seahawks. How's it looks now? I'd rather play them 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.040 than anyone else in the West, absolutely, because you're one 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.120 extra game. Um again, can't take them lightly, you know that. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.120 But DK Metcalf is a big one. I mean, if 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.280 you tell me on on Monday Steelers lost, but you 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.520 didn't see the game at what happened, I'd be like, well, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.639 Metcalf probably got behind him for one or two or 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.120 you know, something like that happened, or special teams, not 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.880 even him get necessarily getting behind you. It's just him 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.000 overpowering your defensive back. Yea, yeah, yeah, because he's he's 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.960 a six fourth. He's what you want Chase Claypool to become, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.680 exactly exactly. And it's a small little sample size because 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.800 Gino Smith basically played a half, but he really went 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.640 DK's way, you know, and Wilson prefers lock it, which 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.040 makes perfect sense. They've been playing together much longer. They 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.920 have a real symmetry going. Not that Wilson doesn't go 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.720 both directions, but it looks like Metcalf will probably lead 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.080 the team in targets just a hunch, And I mean, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.560 if you're a quarterback stepping into a game like that 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.480 off cough the bench, why wouldn't you throw it that way? 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.840 Of course? Right, I'm looking at nothing against Locket. Lock 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.840 is a good players. But I'm looking at him and 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.720 he's looking his cornerback in the eye. And I look 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.680 over here and here's Metcalfee's who's you know, twisted steal 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:29.240 you know, eight inches taller. I'm throwing that way? Yeah, absolutely, Um. Again, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.719 the big plays on the Seattle offense would worry me 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.800 a little bit, especially against the corners that but the 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.080 Steels corners are healthier that have have allowed some big plays. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.520 Carson being in or out doesn't change my doesn't move 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.800 the needle a lot. But he's better than Collins, you know, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.440 assuming he's himself. I mean, I assume they'll try to 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.720 lean on him. Collins running style dress me nuts. They 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.040 always talked about him being the river dance Do you 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.279 remember that he was the river dance guy. His feet 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.599 are constantly moving and like, even if he's not going 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.680 to be there going anywhere, Yeah, a little left right 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.279 picks him up high and yeah he does have an 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.880 odd style to him, and he's just a guy, you know. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.880 I mean, he's okay, you know, but he's been around 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.680 the block too. He's kind of like Gino's. Yeah. I mean, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.400 if you were going to rank Gino Smith as a backup, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.360 I can't remember. He wasn't on those lists I put 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.279 right in the middle that we had earlier. And he 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.760 just hasn't played, hasn't played and pursued. And I had 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.160 a good conversation with Merril Hodges last night and he 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.680 brought a good point about Geno that probably will make 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.600 people feel better. I mean, he does have a pretty 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.200 long history. So the question I asked Meryl was like, 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.520 if you're preparing for Gino, is he a bit of 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.840 an unknown? How do you go about doing that? And 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.600 Meryl was like, I think he's a known. I mean, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.200 I think the book has been written and he's like man, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.520 I studied him at West Virginia. I studied him his 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.960 first couple of years, and I don't think he's any 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.920 different now. Like he didn't say it exactly in these 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.360 words because it's kind of offensive. I'm not offensive, but 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.600 it's like when the going gets tough, Gino kind of crumbles, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.880 you know, like he's kind of a fair weather quarterback. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:06.000 You don't think you like Jamis Jamis Winston went to 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.320 New Orleans so he could learn behind Drew Brees. You 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.160 don't think Gino Smith in a year and now a 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.919 year and a half basically behind Russell Wilson learns a 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.440 little bit more about I mean, he's been a backup 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.560 for five years or whatever, you know, every step of 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.120 the way. So to me, that's why I asked the question, 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.120 was like, I don't exactly know what this guy is 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.440 off of a half of tape and you know a 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.160 little bit of preseason here and there, a couple of 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:33.720 different stops. But again, Merrill thought when he handed, when 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.400 he's under pressure, he kind of crumbles. The big down 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.599 and distant situations aren't his best friends with when the 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.279 coverages are a little different, or when it matters most 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.200 you know, his West Virginia production. And I'm not cutting 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:50.520 on the Mountaineers, there's yeah, I'm fairly anyway. A lot 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.360 of it was after the catch and wide open, big 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.919 twelve type scheme, you know what I mean. So, but 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:57.920 he's got tools and he's been around the block, so 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.880 he can hurt you. Yeah, you can't make mistakes. You 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.960 play your you know, play your defense. Um, I think 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.520 make a Fitzpatrick gets an interception this week wouldn't surprise me. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:14.680 I think both quote unquote star safeties kind of change 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.360 things up this week about from what they have been doing. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:22.480 Adams is blitz thirteen times this year. He had blitzed 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.440 over ninety times all of last season. He has no sacks, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.280 and he has no quarterback hits. Not only was either 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.840 best blitzer last year, I think he was the flat 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.840 out best pass Russia. Yes, so they haven't done that 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.440 with him. The Steelers have had to make it Fitzpatrick 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.559 down covering guys more instead of playing more center field. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.560 I think against Lockett and Metcalf, you play more center field, 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.320 allow everybody else to do their job. You can't can't 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.280 let him get you know, take the top off in 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.880 this situation. So I think, you know, so I think 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.920 the Seahawks go the other way. They bring Adams down 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.760 in the box and say, okay, Steelers go ahead and 0:07:55.760 --> 0:08:02.280 try to. I mean the difference in the two and 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.800 obviously you know the night and day, well the two 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.240 players or day I've just been the two situations. The 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.680 Seahawks corners are so bad though, you know, that's why 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.600 they're playing atoms out of out of position. And okay, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.880 digs can be the top over the top guy, that's fine, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.440 but they need more help than that because their corners 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.360 are so bad. But they're misusing atoms. We talked about 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.960 that extensively yesterday, which makes no sense, especially when you 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.400 consider what you've invested in the guy um and with 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.200 ten days to prepare, you gotta think. Pete Carroll's like, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.280 we got to do something different. Guys, this isn't work. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:40.160 and everyone recognizes that. I don't know. I mean, obviously 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.200 you bring him down to stop help stop the run 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.199 a little bit. They're playing more of a bare front 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:50.440 though this year like a lot of um, which hasn't 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.760 really hasn't helped. Yeah, that hasn't helped either, right, I mean, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.160 here's my interpretation what they were doing is there. They 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.520 probably call themselves a four or three in the program. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.400 I don't know, but last year kJ Wright, and he's 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.480 done this a lot throughout his career, even in the 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.240 Legion of Boom days, would come play over the tight end. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.120 He's a two forty pounds six three linebacker. But he's 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.720 not an edge pass rusher. He's an edge center. He's 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.720 good and you know, coverage, you would man up on 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.840 tight ends a lot. And they decided they didn't want 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.080 kg right doing that. They're not gonna bring him back. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.360 They want more of a defensive end three or four 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.560 outside linebacker doing that. Okay, I guess that makes sense 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.280 on paper, and put go five across five. Biggs will 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.920 kind of like the Steelers do. But then they drop 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.760 in coverage all the time. You know, like, what are 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.040 we doing here? Yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.760 I don't know what the plan is. Yeah, I mean, 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.240 it doesn't looked like you've had one. And that's what 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.400 worries me is maybe they'll come up with one on 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.120 this ten days rest, treat it like a mini by, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.280 do some serious self scout and be like, maybe it 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.360 isn't what we do well, but we gotta do something different. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.320 I mean, I think any coach is gonna at least 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.160 change it up. And you know, Wagoner is a good player, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.880 and the defensive front isn't bad. It's just not star 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.199 studded the corners or the real area of concern. I mean, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.040 it's a bad group. Yeah, yeah, I mean they just 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.640 don't cover anybody Steelers have. The Seahawks have an advantage 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.080 with with Lockett and Metcalf on the field. They're they're 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.200 very good, without question. I think the Steelers might have 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.439 a bigger advantage with their two guys because because Seattle's 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.400 cornerbacks are that bad. Yeah, I think you're right. Like 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:38.360 if Steelers receivers minus Seattle corners is greater than Metcalf 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.480 and Lockett minus Steelers corners, you know that there's the 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.240 difference in between the two. It's not the Seelo's corners 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.720 are great, but they're proven and Sutton coming back is big. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.199 You know, it bumps everyone down a peg. I am 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.800 interested to see what the slot corner situation is that 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.080 they just give it them a let or does Sutton 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.640 bump in or you know, because Pierre's played a lot 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.520 and Let's played a lot. But I don't know if 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.600 they're gonna be tested with a lot of multiple receiver 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.320 sets either, because they're searching for a third wide out. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.520 Swain's fine, but he's not great. So I mentioned yesterday. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:16.320 If I'm Seattle, my base personnel would be Carson or Collins, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.720 whoever is healthy um two tight ends, metcalf Lockett and 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.960 try to get three Steelers defensive linemen out there, Cam 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.080 and two others because he wasn't real equipped to run. Yeah, 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.440 sixty snaps from their big people on defense right now, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.920 it's not not a real deep group for the Steelers, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.200 and it's probably the the weakest spot of the defense 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.640 with with the secondary now starting to get a little 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:48.439 bit healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think maybe they 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.080 played because of the you know, the danger that you 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.679 have with these two receivers. You play making a little 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.960 more Robbert to let him, let him read the quarterback 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.880 and a guy who hasn't played a lot, and you know, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.439 go get one. I mean, I guess the biggest strategy 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.240 would be don't let these two receivers create big plays 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.200 time and time again. Explosion plays to these two. And really, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.680 you know, it sounds like that's what Tom has been 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.840 preaching all week too. If you watch Lockett two, he 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.000 does a lot of his a lot of his work. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.720 He oh, he hits some stuff, you know, some fly 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.439 patterns and things, but he's more of us catch a 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.640 slant and go post and got it. Was a great 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.080 pump returner in college that type of guy, you know, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.480 great after the catch, real loose swivel hips, very different 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.240 than Metcalf really, and they compliment each other well, but 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.760 they get like fift the targets, you know what I mean, Yeah, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.240 they need a third guy to do something, you know, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.760 and they're they're short there too, And Wilson's made up 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.839 for him in fact, you know, with with with Geno 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.760 Smith and here, I would expect those guys to get 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.960 even maybe more peppered, even more because we saw that 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.040 with I mean, Metcalf just got pepper Pepper Metcalf. He's 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.400 not gonna forget about lock it now. They've had a 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.240 week of practice. Like again, if I'm looking this, I'm 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.559 gonna go, well, those are my two best guys. I'm 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.080 just gonna funnel them the football. And I'm sure that 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.920 even comes from the top. I mean, if I'm Carol, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.400 I'm saying, I know we're in a bad place. We 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.679 don't have our our stud quarterback. Things aren't going as 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.160 well in general, but we've got two guys that are 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.800 better than they're two guys. So let's not let's attack that, 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.560 or you might just try to shorten the game even 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.040 more and just run run, run, run. Can they do that? 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.280 I mean, they're running the fewest plays in the league. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.760 It's amazing. The whole play differential is crazy. You can 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.640 do that when you have Russell Wilson. Yeah, because he's 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.240 going to get you the big chunk plays. At least 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.000 they're efficient on defense. They just don't run many plays, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.000 you know. But what's amazing is if you told me, man, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.160 this team's running the fewest plays in league, like they 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.760 must turn the ball over a lot. No, they don't 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.480 all over. It's like it's almost hard to do. Although 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.360 I would think that's that's gonna change this. Well, I'd 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.720 say that's Russell, you know, so is Geno gonna value 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.360 the football as well as Wilson and create big plays 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.160 like Wilson and Aaron Rodgers to me are at the 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:04.920 very top of the list ever of the combination of 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.600 making big plays but not being the roller coaster with 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.480 the negatives. You know that they they're very much risk 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.360 takers and are downfill throwers high A dots, but they 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:19.880 don't turn them all over much. I mean, that's a 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.280 rare thing. Here's the here's the thing to watch with Gina, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.880 not just the interceptions. Uh, and he does have he 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.560 has more interceptions in his career than he has touchdowns. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.480 And he threw one yes last week. One fumblest career games. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.480 That's a good point, you know. He and again that's 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.840 thirty one starts. He's got twenty one fumbles. I mean 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.200 he's not great pocket presidents. A little bit smaller guy, 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.280 you know, Wilson's got a lot of body armor on him. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.160 I mean he's short, but he's a thick, powerful guy 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.160 that can take a beating. He has never missed a 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:54.200 game before this one. Gino. That's he's gonna get routed 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.960 around a little bit. That's turnovers, turnovers into career games. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.760 Why you're not one of those are stars? Like, yeah, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.320 that's why you're not a starter. Yeah, because he can 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:07.840 throw it and he can run a little and he's 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.080 you know, he's a good athlete. Um, pocket presence isn't 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.560 gonna value of the football? Yeah, pocket you know, I 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.160 think pocket presence to me is one of those things 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.040 that kind of gets overlooked with so many quarterbacks, Like 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.400 even watching like whench last last Monday night? Was that Monday, Yeah, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.880 Monday night. You look at his statues, Go Wentz had 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.000 a really good game, but the pocket presence was still 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.800 lacking in something like he doesn't feel he doesn't feel 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.480 the past rush coming, slide properly, keep his eyes down. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.800 And then you watch Brady last night and you're like, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.040 that's what pocket presence looks. That's what it looks like. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.520 He's not fast, he's not you know, gonna outrun anybody. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.240 He's not gonna, you know, stiff farm somebody to the 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.160 ground like Ben used to do and settle. But it's 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.480 always just need a second slide here there while I'm 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.600 manipulating a safety and feeling the rush and I has 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.560 never drop like just being the last night's game, that's 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.280 a big Jalen Hurts thing. His eyes dropped all the time. Awful. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.520 I think he's really bad. Yeah yeah, I mean the 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.520 fantasy community is like, oh, this guy is great. It's 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.080 the top ten community, top ten guy every week. Once again, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.600 we're fantasy football does not match reality even close. The 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.640 running quarterbacks too much of a cheat code, and he 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.240 didn't even play well when they came back. They had 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.800 one carry to the running backs in the first half, Like, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:29.000 what are you doing? The Philadelphia fans giving the Bronx 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.480 cheer when they handed off the Sanders again and he 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.040 breaks off like a twenty yard run because Tampa Bay 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.120 wasn't expecting it, like, oh my goodness, running. They run 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.360 all these r p o s, but it's never the 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.680 running back running the RPO. It's always him. It's always him, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.680 and he's not a great thrower. I mean, they're a 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.800 weird team to me, and they're probably gonna end up 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.320 with three picks potentially on the top ten. One of 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.720 them should be a quarter one of them should be 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.240 a quarterback. Jalen Hurts should be playing running back or 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.560 wide receiver or something like that. He's not. He's not 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.920 a quarterback. I mean, actually he should be in this 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.199 Genio Smith type of role where things are bad, he 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.879 comes off the bench and does something that they didn't 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.320 have before. But he can't be the every week starter. No, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.520 he's just not. There's no nothing dynamic there at all 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.800 except his running. That was running. And he's not even 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.840 a Lamar Kyler Josh Allen runner. I mean, he's not 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.280 gonna not even he's not even a Cornell Stewart. No, no, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.840 I mean exactly, I mean Cam Newton, all those guys, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.159 the good runners of this generation. He's not in that class. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.560 I'm not sure what he hangs his hat on his head, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.560 I assume, and they don't help him a ton of either. No, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.960 I mean that game was strange last night. It's just 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.280 very strange. But you know, the Steelers go into this 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.000 one is a five point favorite. We'll give our picks 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.920 later in the show. See what happens with that. We'll 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.919 see what happens later on today with DK metcalf if 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.240 he uh pas or not. He practiced in a limited 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:59.920 fashion on Wednesday, did not Carson? Yeah, again, travel, I mean, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.080 I assume they travel, but who knows if it's bad. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.400 I don't know. That's a that's a great so hard 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.840 to get great information, but it's a little frightening. That's 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:09.760 the problem when you play these teams that are on 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.040 the west west west coast, like there's three hours behind you. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.640 So it's right now, it's not even noon there yet, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.520 exactly the idea, you know, I guess right now, it's 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.159 just one o'clock our show a little early, you know, right, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.640 But yeah, so they're they're either on the practice field 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.160 right now, are just getting on or whatever, So you're 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.879 not gonna get so if you're the Steelers, like you know, 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.879 sometimes they'll when it's when they're playing a team like that, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.040 they'll wait until they know that the other team's practices 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.200 over and then they'll release their practice their injury because 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.000 it is a somewhat of an unfair face. It's an advantage. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.399 I mean especially bad you've got somebody sitting in the 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.680 office or monitoring the Steelers are going to be without 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:51.440 this guy. Okay, let's go out here and say here's 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.200 what we're gonna do. Guys around him, you know, right absolutely, 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.639 you know, a guy like Metcalf is enough of a 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.800 game changer that, well, our coverages are gonna lean his 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.960 if you don't, if you know he's gonna play, and well, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.879 I'm not wasting my time with that kind of you know. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.440 If somebody snaps and practice, yeah, it's a huge deal. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.440 I mean people need to understand that you get three 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.840 practices a week. That's not even like a walkthrough, Like 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.520 I don't even think that's like games winship or you know, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.400 by the East Coast team and it's just keeping the 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.280 field level. It should all be come out at the 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.360 same time, you know, whatever time it is. The level 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.199 level playing field. So yeah, one thing, do you know 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.840 Smith did do in his rookie season five game winning drives? 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.439 For him? Did he really? Yeah? Led the NFL in 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.679 two thousand thirteen. Led the NFL. Now that meant that 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.800 they were behind a lot, and yeah, they were bad 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.040 Jets teams and you know they were losing. They were 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.800 eight under him rookie year. Well, it seems like so 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:47.720 long ago. I mean, I guess it was, but I 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.960 mean he was taken over after the Mark Sanchez years, 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.240 so they had some building. I mean they've been doing 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.439 a couple of a a f C championship games. Um, 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.280 you know, they try to The defense was really good, 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.919 came out two. So who are the top quarterbacks that year? 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.480 Off top? You know, is that the Winston year? I 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.639 think it's even earlier than that. That's earlier than that. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.600 I think it's EJ. Manuel year. Yeah, that was a 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.520 strange That was that strange year because everybody was reaching 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.600 for quarterbacks. It was it was just a really weak 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.560 class and Gino was a second round pick, but some 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.560