1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lilli here with Matt Williamson. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: It's Friday Play, Sunday Night. Sunday Night Football, Baby, Monday 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Night Football. I get you juices flowing a little bit, 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, it looked better on the schedule, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure to the non Steeler Seahawks fans or even 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: the Steeler and Seahawks fans than original and you look 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: like a marquee matchup. But I think it's a great 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: situation for Pittsburgh in particular. One they can't pass up, 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Or let's slip away and might be 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of a part two of the get Right games, 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, yeah, we'll see you know how this 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: all goes down. But um, you know, this is an 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: opportunity for the Steelers to get the three and three 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: m It's an opportunity to uh get into their bye 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: week with some rest. Um. The Browns a little beaten up. 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: Browns are a little beaten up. Absolutely, division is in 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: a weird spot right now. Browns have a really tough 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: game coming up. And I think what you're alluding to 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: is Nick Chubb's out for that one. We just found 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: that out Ravens have a really tough game coming up, 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers win that one, but we'll see. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't want to say the 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Ravens are a fraud, and I still think they're a 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: good team. Right. They're not a four and one team. 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: They're not. They're not on level with They've gotten some bounces. Yeah, 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: they're a lot closer to being a three and three 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: two and you know two or three and two two 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: and three team than they are. I mean, I think 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: the Chargers, if you were to do a power ranking now, 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: are clearly better than the Ravens. I mean, I don't 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: care what the records are, just what they put out 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: onto the field week after week began credit. They found 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: a way to way and I'm not hacking on the 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Ravens in any way. And I wonder where the Bengals 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: are at, you know, I mean, can they keep it 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: rolling and stay very relevant? I think they can. Yeah, 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I think they should win. I mean, this is the game, 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: but the Lions have played everybody tough. They just haven't 39 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: bite you down to the end. They're the whole way 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: long line. So the division and even the conference are 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: really shaping up. And getting pretty interesting. But this is 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: a big game for the Steelers, and don't I assume 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Steer Nations should not be taking it lightly like, oh, 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: they'll just roll out there and win, like Stewards aren't 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: at that point that they can just roll it out 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: and win against anybody quite yet. Yeah, I agree. Um, 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how this all plays out. Obviously, Uh, 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks will not have Russell Wilson for this game. 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: He was actually listed as as a limited participant in 50 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: their practice yesterday. He was just out there running around 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: and you know he can do that. He's got a 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: broken finger or whatever. It's not like he's out there 53 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: throwing the football. But DK Metcalf was was on the 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: injury list. He was limited on Wednesday, didn't practice on Thursday. 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: Chris Carson didn't practice yesterday. That this this is They're 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: not in a good place. No, I mean, they just 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: really aren't. I mean, I know, I'm a big strength 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: of scheduled guy, and I mean I'll be the first 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: to admit that this game looks a lot different on 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: paper in July and August than how it's gonna come before. 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, again, it was it was the game everybody 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: was talking about in the spring when they added that 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: seventeen team. Oh my god, the Steelers have to play 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. How's it looks now? I'd rather play them 65 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: than anyone else in the West, absolutely, because you're one 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: extra game. Um again, can't take them lightly, you know that. 67 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: But DK Metcalf is a big one. I mean, if 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: you tell me on on Monday Steelers lost, but you 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: didn't see the game at what happened, I'd be like, well, 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: Metcalf probably got behind him for one or two or 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, something like that happened, or special teams, not 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: even him get necessarily getting behind you. It's just him 73 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: overpowering your defensive back. Yea, yeah, yeah, because he's he's 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: a six fourth. He's what you want Chase Claypool to become, 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And it's a small little sample size because 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Gino Smith basically played a half, but he really went 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: DK's way, you know, and Wilson prefers lock it, which 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: makes perfect sense. They've been playing together much longer. They 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: have a real symmetry going. Not that Wilson doesn't go 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: both directions, but it looks like Metcalf will probably lead 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the team in targets just a hunch, And I mean, 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback stepping into a game like that 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: off cough the bench, why wouldn't you throw it that way? 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Of course? Right, I'm looking at nothing against Locket. Lock 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: is a good players. But I'm looking at him and 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: he's looking his cornerback in the eye. And I look 87 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: over here and here's Metcalfee's who's you know, twisted steal 88 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, eight inches taller. I'm throwing that way? Yeah, absolutely, Um. Again, 89 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: the big plays on the Seattle offense would worry me 90 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, especially against the corners that but the 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Steels corners are healthier that have have allowed some big plays. 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Carson being in or out doesn't change my doesn't move 93 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: the needle a lot. But he's better than Collins, you know, 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: assuming he's himself. I mean, I assume they'll try to 95 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: lean on him. Collins running style dress me nuts. They 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: always talked about him being the river dance Do you 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: remember that he was the river dance guy. His feet 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: are constantly moving and like, even if he's not going 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: to be there going anywhere, Yeah, a little left right 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: picks him up high and yeah he does have an 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: odd style to him, and he's just a guy, you know. 102 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's okay, you know, but he's been around 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the block too. He's kind of like Gino's. Yeah. I mean, 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: if you were going to rank Gino Smith as a backup, 105 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember. He wasn't on those lists I put 106 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: right in the middle that we had earlier. And he 107 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: just hasn't played, hasn't played and pursued. And I had 108 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: a good conversation with Merril Hodges last night and he 109 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: brought a good point about Geno that probably will make 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: people feel better. I mean, he does have a pretty 111 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: long history. So the question I asked Meryl was like, 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: if you're preparing for Gino, is he a bit of 113 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: an unknown? How do you go about doing that? And 114 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Meryl was like, I think he's a known. I mean, 115 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I think the book has been written and he's like man, 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: I studied him at West Virginia. I studied him his 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: first couple of years, and I don't think he's any 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: different now. Like he didn't say it exactly in these 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: words because it's kind of offensive. I'm not offensive, but 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: it's like when the going gets tough, Gino kind of crumbles, 121 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, like he's kind of a fair weather quarterback. 122 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: You don't think you like Jamis Jamis Winston went to 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans so he could learn behind Drew Brees. You 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: don't think Gino Smith in a year and now a 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: year and a half basically behind Russell Wilson learns a 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: little bit more about I mean, he's been a backup 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: for five years or whatever, you know, every step of 128 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: the way. So to me, that's why I asked the question, 129 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: was like, I don't exactly know what this guy is 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: off of a half of tape and you know a 131 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: little bit of preseason here and there, a couple of 132 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: different stops. But again, Merrill thought when he handed, when 133 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: he's under pressure, he kind of crumbles. The big down 134 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: and distant situations aren't his best friends with when the 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: coverages are a little different, or when it matters most 136 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, his West Virginia production. And I'm not cutting 137 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: on the Mountaineers, there's yeah, I'm fairly anyway. A lot 138 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: of it was after the catch and wide open, big 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: twelve type scheme, you know what I mean. So, but 140 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: he's got tools and he's been around the block, so 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: he can hurt you. Yeah, you can't make mistakes. You 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: play your you know, play your defense. Um, I think 143 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: make a Fitzpatrick gets an interception this week wouldn't surprise me. 144 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I think both quote unquote star safeties kind of change 145 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: things up this week about from what they have been doing. 146 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Adams is blitz thirteen times this year. He had blitzed 147 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: over ninety times all of last season. He has no sacks, 148 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: and he has no quarterback hits. Not only was either 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: best blitzer last year, I think he was the flat 150 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: out best pass Russia. Yes, so they haven't done that 151 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: with him. The Steelers have had to make it Fitzpatrick 152 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 1: down covering guys more instead of playing more center field. 153 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I think against Lockett and Metcalf, you play more center field, 154 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: allow everybody else to do their job. You can't can't 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: let him get you know, take the top off in 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: this situation. So I think, you know, so I think 157 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks go the other way. They bring Adams down 158 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: in the box and say, okay, Steelers go ahead and 159 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: try to. I mean the difference in the two and 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: obviously you know the night and day, well the two 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: players or day I've just been the two situations. The 162 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Seahawks corners are so bad though, you know, that's why 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: they're playing atoms out of out of position. And okay, 164 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: digs can be the top over the top guy, that's fine, 165 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: but they need more help than that because their corners 166 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: are so bad. But they're misusing atoms. We talked about 167 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: that extensively yesterday, which makes no sense, especially when you 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: consider what you've invested in the guy um and with 169 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: ten days to prepare, you gotta think. Pete Carroll's like, 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: we got to do something different. Guys, this isn't work. Yeah, yeah, 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: and everyone recognizes that. I don't know. I mean, obviously 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: you bring him down to stop help stop the run 173 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: a little bit. They're playing more of a bare front 174 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: though this year like a lot of um, which hasn't 175 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: really hasn't helped. Yeah, that hasn't helped either, right, I mean, 176 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: here's my interpretation what they were doing is there. They 177 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: probably call themselves a four or three in the program. 178 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but last year kJ Wright, and he's 179 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: done this a lot throughout his career, even in the 180 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Legion of Boom days, would come play over the tight end. 181 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: He's a two forty pounds six three linebacker. But he's 182 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: not an edge pass rusher. He's an edge center. He's 183 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: good and you know, coverage, you would man up on 184 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: tight ends a lot. And they decided they didn't want 185 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: kg right doing that. They're not gonna bring him back. 186 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: They want more of a defensive end three or four 187 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: outside linebacker doing that. Okay, I guess that makes sense 188 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: on paper, and put go five across five. Biggs will 189 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: kind of like the Steelers do. But then they drop 190 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: in coverage all the time. You know, like, what are 191 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: we doing here? Yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense. 192 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the plan is. Yeah, I mean, 193 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't looked like you've had one. And that's what 194 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: worries me is maybe they'll come up with one on 195 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: this ten days rest, treat it like a mini by, 196 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: do some serious self scout and be like, maybe it 197 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: isn't what we do well, but we gotta do something different. 198 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think any coach is gonna at least 199 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: change it up. And you know, Wagoner is a good player, 200 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: and the defensive front isn't bad. It's just not star 201 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: studded the corners or the real area of concern. I mean, 202 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: it's a bad group. Yeah, yeah, I mean they just 203 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: don't cover anybody Steelers have. The Seahawks have an advantage 204 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: with with Lockett and Metcalf on the field. They're they're 205 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: very good, without question. I think the Steelers might have 206 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: a bigger advantage with their two guys because because Seattle's 207 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: cornerbacks are that bad. Yeah, I think you're right. Like 208 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: if Steelers receivers minus Seattle corners is greater than Metcalf 209 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: and Lockett minus Steelers corners, you know that there's the 210 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: difference in between the two. It's not the Seelo's corners 211 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: are great, but they're proven and Sutton coming back is big. 212 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: You know, it bumps everyone down a peg. I am 213 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: interested to see what the slot corner situation is that 214 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: they just give it them a let or does Sutton 215 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: bump in or you know, because Pierre's played a lot 216 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: and Let's played a lot. But I don't know if 217 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be tested with a lot of multiple receiver 218 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: sets either, because they're searching for a third wide out. 219 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Swain's fine, but he's not great. So I mentioned yesterday. 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: If I'm Seattle, my base personnel would be Carson or Collins, 221 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: whoever is healthy um two tight ends, metcalf Lockett and 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: try to get three Steelers defensive linemen out there, Cam 223 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and two others because he wasn't real equipped to run. Yeah, 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: sixty snaps from their big people on defense right now, 225 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: it's not not a real deep group for the Steelers, 226 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: and it's probably the the weakest spot of the defense 227 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: with with the secondary now starting to get a little 228 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: bit healthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think maybe they 229 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: played because of the you know, the danger that you 230 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: have with these two receivers. You play making a little 231 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: more Robbert to let him, let him read the quarterback 232 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: and a guy who hasn't played a lot, and you know, 233 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: go get one. I mean, I guess the biggest strategy 234 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: would be don't let these two receivers create big plays 235 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: time and time again. Explosion plays to these two. And really, 236 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like that's what Tom has been 237 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: preaching all week too. If you watch Lockett two, he 238 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: does a lot of his a lot of his work. 239 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: He oh, he hits some stuff, you know, some fly 240 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: patterns and things, but he's more of us catch a 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: slant and go post and got it. Was a great 242 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: pump returner in college that type of guy, you know, 243 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: great after the catch, real loose swivel hips, very different 244 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: than Metcalf really, and they compliment each other well, but 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: they get like fift the targets, you know what I mean, Yeah, 246 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: they need a third guy to do something, you know, 247 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: and they're they're short there too, And Wilson's made up 248 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: for him in fact, you know, with with with Geno 249 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Smith and here, I would expect those guys to get 250 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: even maybe more peppered, even more because we saw that 251 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: with I mean, Metcalf just got pepper Pepper Metcalf. He's 252 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: not gonna forget about lock it now. They've had a 253 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: week of practice. Like again, if I'm looking this, I'm 254 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: gonna go, well, those are my two best guys. I'm 255 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: just gonna funnel them the football. And I'm sure that 256 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: even comes from the top. I mean, if I'm Carol, 257 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I know we're in a bad place. We 258 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: don't have our our stud quarterback. Things aren't going as 259 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: well in general, but we've got two guys that are 260 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: better than they're two guys. So let's not let's attack that, 261 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: or you might just try to shorten the game even 262 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: more and just run run, run, run. Can they do that? 263 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're running the fewest plays in the league. 264 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: It's amazing. The whole play differential is crazy. You can 265 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: do that when you have Russell Wilson. Yeah, because he's 266 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: going to get you the big chunk plays. At least 267 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: they're efficient on defense. They just don't run many plays, 268 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: you know. But what's amazing is if you told me, man, 269 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: this team's running the fewest plays in league, like they 270 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: must turn the ball over a lot. No, they don't 271 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: all over. It's like it's almost hard to do. Although 272 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I would think that's that's gonna change this. Well, I'd 273 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: say that's Russell, you know, so is Geno gonna value 274 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the football as well as Wilson and create big plays 275 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: like Wilson and Aaron Rodgers to me are at the 276 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: very top of the list ever of the combination of 277 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: making big plays but not being the roller coaster with 278 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the negatives. You know that they they're very much risk 279 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: takers and are downfill throwers high A dots, but they 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: don't turn them all over much. I mean, that's a 281 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: rare thing. Here's the here's the thing to watch with Gina, 282 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: not just the interceptions. Uh, and he does have he 283 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: has more interceptions in his career than he has touchdowns. 284 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: And he threw one yes last week. One fumblest career games. 285 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: That's a good point, you know. He and again that's 286 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: thirty one starts. He's got twenty one fumbles. I mean 287 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: he's not great pocket presidents. A little bit smaller guy, 288 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, Wilson's got a lot of body armor on him. 289 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's short, but he's a thick, powerful guy 290 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: that can take a beating. He has never missed a 291 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: game before this one. Gino. That's he's gonna get routed 292 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: around a little bit. That's turnovers, turnovers into career games. 293 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Why you're not one of those are stars? Like, yeah, 294 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: that's why you're not a starter. Yeah, because he can 295 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: throw it and he can run a little and he's 296 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's a good athlete. Um, pocket presence isn't 297 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna value of the football? Yeah, pocket you know, I 298 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: think pocket presence to me is one of those things 299 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: that kind of gets overlooked with so many quarterbacks, Like 300 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: even watching like whench last last Monday night? Was that Monday, Yeah, 301 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Monday night. You look at his statues, Go Wentz had 302 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: a really good game, but the pocket presence was still 303 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: lacking in something like he doesn't feel he doesn't feel 304 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: the past rush coming, slide properly, keep his eyes down. 305 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: And then you watch Brady last night and you're like, 306 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: that's what pocket presence looks. That's what it looks like. 307 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: He's not fast, he's not you know, gonna outrun anybody. 308 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: He's not gonna, you know, stiff farm somebody to the 309 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: ground like Ben used to do and settle. But it's 310 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: always just need a second slide here there while I'm 311 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: manipulating a safety and feeling the rush and I has 312 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: never drop like just being the last night's game, that's 313 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a big Jalen Hurts thing. His eyes dropped all the time. Awful. 314 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: I think he's really bad. Yeah yeah, I mean the 315 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: fantasy community is like, oh, this guy is great. It's 316 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the top ten community, top ten guy every week. Once again, 317 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: we're fantasy football does not match reality even close. The 318 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks too much of a cheat code, and he 319 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: didn't even play well when they came back. They had 320 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: one carry to the running backs in the first half, Like, 321 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing? The Philadelphia fans giving the Bronx 322 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: cheer when they handed off the Sanders again and he 323 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: breaks off like a twenty yard run because Tampa Bay 324 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: wasn't expecting it, like, oh my goodness, running. They run 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: all these r p o s, but it's never the 326 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: running back running the RPO. It's always him. It's always him, 327 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: and he's not a great thrower. I mean, they're a 328 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: weird team to me, and they're probably gonna end up 329 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: with three picks potentially on the top ten. One of 330 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: them should be a quarter one of them should be 331 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Jalen Hurts should be playing running back or 332 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver or something like that. He's not. He's not 333 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean, actually he should be in this 334 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: Genio Smith type of role where things are bad, he 335 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: comes off the bench and does something that they didn't 336 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: have before. But he can't be the every week starter. No, 337 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: he's just not. There's no nothing dynamic there at all 338 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: except his running. That was running. And he's not even 339 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: a Lamar Kyler Josh Allen runner. I mean, he's not 340 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna not even he's not even a Cornell Stewart. No, no, 341 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean exactly, I mean Cam Newton, all those guys, 342 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: the good runners of this generation. He's not in that class. 343 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he hangs his hat on his head, 344 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: I assume, and they don't help him a ton of either. No, 345 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean that game was strange last night. It's just 346 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: very strange. But you know, the Steelers go into this 347 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: one is a five point favorite. We'll give our picks 348 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: later in the show. See what happens with that. We'll 349 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: see what happens later on today with DK metcalf if 350 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: he uh pas or not. He practiced in a limited 351 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: fashion on Wednesday, did not Carson? Yeah, again, travel, I mean, 352 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: I assume they travel, but who knows if it's bad. 353 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a that's a great so hard 354 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: to get great information, but it's a little frightening. That's 355 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: the problem when you play these teams that are on 356 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the west west west coast, like there's three hours behind you. 357 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: So it's right now, it's not even noon there yet, 358 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: exactly the idea, you know, I guess right now, it's 359 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: just one o'clock our show a little early, you know, right, 360 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, so they're they're either on the practice field 361 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: right now, are just getting on or whatever, So you're 362 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: not gonna get so if you're the Steelers, like you know, 363 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: sometimes they'll when it's when they're playing a team like that, 364 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: they'll wait until they know that the other team's practices 365 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: over and then they'll release their practice their injury because 366 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: it is a somewhat of an unfair face. It's an advantage. Yeah, yeah, 367 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: I mean especially bad you've got somebody sitting in the 368 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: office or monitoring the Steelers are going to be without 369 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: this guy. Okay, let's go out here and say here's 370 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Guys around him, you know, right absolutely, 371 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Metcalf is enough of a 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: game changer that, well, our coverages are gonna lean his 373 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you know he's gonna play, and well, 374 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm not wasting my time with that kind of you know. 375 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: If somebody snaps and practice, yeah, it's a huge deal. 376 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean people need to understand that you get three 377 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: practices a week. That's not even like a walkthrough, Like 378 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't even think that's like games winship or you know, 379 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: by the East Coast team and it's just keeping the 380 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: field level. It should all be come out at the 381 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: same time, you know, whatever time it is. The level 382 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: level playing field. So yeah, one thing, do you know 383 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Smith did do in his rookie season five game winning drives? 384 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: For him? Did he really? Yeah? Led the NFL in 385 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. Led the NFL. Now that meant that 386 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: they were behind a lot, and yeah, they were bad 387 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Jets teams and you know they were losing. They were 388 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: eight under him rookie year. Well, it seems like so 389 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: long ago. I mean, I guess it was, but I 390 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: mean he was taken over after the Mark Sanchez years, 391 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: so they had some building. I mean they've been doing 392 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: a couple of a a f C championship games. Um, 393 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, they try to The defense was really good, 394 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: came out two. So who are the top quarterbacks that year? 395 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: Off top? You know, is that the Winston year? I 396 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: think it's even earlier than that. That's earlier than that. 397 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it's EJ. Manuel year. Yeah, that was a 398 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: strange That was that strange year because everybody was reaching 399 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. It was it was just a really weak 400 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: class and Gino was a second round pick, but some 401 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: thought maybe he could go higher. Manual win sixteenth overall. 402 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Then you're looking at Steelers till drivers show in seventeen 403 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: that's just a bad draft. Is that de Eric Fisher draft. Yeah. Yeah, 404 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: it's a really bad draft. It's one of the worst 405 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: ones that I can remember. Gino Smith was his thirty 406 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: ninth pick in that draft. Yeah, it's just a bad class. 407 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Second quarterback taken. He was second taken. Okay, so really EJ. 408 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: Manual is the only one and he probably shouldn't have been. Yeah, 409 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: but anyway, we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. 410 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on 411 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after 412 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: this