WEBVTT - CAROLINE MUNSICK: Getting Real About Being Ian Munsick’s Manager & Wife, Navigating an Unexpected Pregnancy + More 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:16.959 Adam. Caroline, she's a queen and talking a song. She's 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.400 getting really not afraid to face episode, so just let 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:26.680 it blow. No one can do wequid Caroline. He's sound 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:33.120 with Caroline. Okay, Caroline Monsig, welcome to get real. Hi Caroline, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.519 Hi Caroline, the Caroline, the Caroline's. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.160 You know, I was telling you briefly, my best friend 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.840 growing up was named Caroline, and we were the Carolines. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.200 And I haven't met many other Carolines. Have you They're 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.600 special and no I haven't, but I feel that way. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.880 You and I were just talking about this because he 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.000 actually just wrote a song with Caroline in it, and 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.680 I told him, I was like, it's gotta be your 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.440 best song ever, because not just because of my name, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.360 but every Caroline song is a smash. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:04.399 It is, you know, sweet Caroline and then Caroline. This's 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.039 the culture wall Caroline. Okay, you know there's a ton 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.080 of them's a lot of Okay, so what is it? 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.200 Do you love the song? I do? So? He did good? 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.600 He did good? Okay, don't mess this up? All right? 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.760 Okay, your husband's Ian munsick. You guys are quite the 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.440 power couple. It's a lot you got a lot going 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.120 on with him. I do married, I got a baby, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.840 Crawford he's four, had his birthday at the opry. That's 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.040 pretty freaking cool at Ian munsick. He's on the rise, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.520 like blowing up thanks to his hot wife. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.240 He's pretty talented, so he makes it easy. But yeah, no, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.160 I was telling you, like my head's about to fall off. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:40.680 But we're doing good. We're making it. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.759 So you're manager to Ian, mom to Crawford, and wife 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.160 to Ian. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.880 That's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot with 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.400 like your family, it is. But I think we do 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.960 better together then we do a part. I love that. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.920 I know, like I'll notice Ian and I getting more 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.440 into like little arguments or whatever if we're like apart 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.800 from each other because we're so used to just working together, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.680 you know, so we just do better together. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.640 But it is a lot. Sometimes I need my space. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.720 I'm always like I need some space. I don't manage Michael. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.679 But we spend a lot of time together too, and 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.440 we're like a couple that like we're always together. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:18.800 People are like go on. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.120 Date nights to keep your marriage hot and stuff. I'm like, 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.760 we are talking all the time, Like if we go 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.480 to date night, Like, I don't know how to even 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:25.800 like not. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.639 Just talk about like career life all the things all 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.040 the time. How do you separate the two. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.040 That is one of our Like we were just talking 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.840 about it this morning, was I was like, we got 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.760 to stop talking about work when we just like go 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:39.399 out to eat. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.839 But what else is there talking? And that's all that's 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.720 in our mind, literally Crawford and work. But it's all consuming. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:46.239 It is. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.480 It is consuming, and we're just trying to get through it. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.200 So you know, hopefully ten years from now we can 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:58.720 talk about I don't know, guard me, who knows what. Yeah, 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:00.640 I don't think I'm going to be one of. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.079 Those cook I don't cook it at all. I'm like 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.400 people who enjoy cooking. I'm like, it's one more task 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.600 to do and then you've got to read all these 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.960 instructions and then follow it. I don't find it relaxing. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.320 People are like, oh, it's so relaxing. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:13.480 I know, it's just the part you have to go 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.519 to the grocery store and find every little ingredient and 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.839 then you're wasting half the ingredients because you're never using 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.280 them again. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.000 So yeah, yeah, what do y'all do? For dinner. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.799 Well, Crawford's on little spoons that little like health baby 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.480 food they deliver dinners. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.320 Yes, it's amazing. Okay, okay, hey little spoons. I know 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.000 we are don't have to think of Is he like 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:33.480 all the stuff? 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.080 Oh yeah, it's great. He's been on it since he's 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.880 a baby. They have like the baby food all the 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.000 way up to toddler meals. And it makes my life 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.240 easier because I know he's eating healthy when I'm out 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.120 on the road, Like he comes out on the road 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.600 and you know how that is, like you're eating pizza 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:49.520 and whatever. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.920 Exactly. So he's taken care of. That's a relief. And 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.560 I'm smart. Yeah, Ian and I are just figuring out 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.240 what we can whatever you can throw in your mouth, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.480 I know you that. Yeah. Okay, so you went to Belmont. Yes, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:04.240 I went to Belmont. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.120 Really I didn't know that, Yes, much many years before you. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.800 I'm forty. Well you look so freaking hot. Well thank 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.400 you you look so hot. Thanks. I mean I love 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.920 that you got the long blonde hair. I went dark. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.360 I cut my hair dark and dyed it brown last 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.600 year because I was having even life crisis. And then 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.440 I was like, why did I do that I need 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.360 to grow back on go blonde. I just feel more 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.480 myself being blonde. Yeah, have you been dark before you 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:27.240 went dark? 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.839 Dark? I die in my hair black. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.640 That's my issue is like if I go dark, I'm 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.680 like all the way be darker, and then you gotta 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.040 have a spray tan and then it's. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:34.440 Like a lot. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.680 Do you feel like a different person was dark hair? Yeah, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:37.960 me too, like way different. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.360 I feel way cooler. But I know, but I feel 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.560 more myself blonde exactly, and it's easier, like less maintenance. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:43.880 It is. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.800 People think one is more maintenance, but tell me why 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.680 it's less because I feel the same because. 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.800 I'm naturally blonde, so like my roots would literally look 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.840 like I'm balding if I didn't have like touch it 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.680 up black like every three weeks, you know. And I 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.200 was like, I can't be getting my hair done. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.920 This off too much. Yeah, but I did like it. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.000 It was a vibe. It's fun. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.320 I did something prompt you to go dark. I'm always prompted, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:04.960 like by my life. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.520 I'm sure at that point, who knows what it was 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:11.880 a breakup or did you and Ian breakup? No? I 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.800 mean before him. I think I so I died it. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.800 Ian and I weren't together until you became pregnant. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.680 You had a baby and your stomach, and we didn't 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.840 address this because Ian went on the Bobby Cast and 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.200 was like, I know, we did not all the tea. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:27.040 He heard all the tea. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.159 He's like Caroline and I did not announce our marriage 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:31.240 until she was popping. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.960 I know, pregnant. I know. So I started managing Ian. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.040 No married Artie or No, No, I did it backwards. Hey, 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.320 you know, you know he needs a formula. Do it 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.760 the way it works for you exactly. I started managing 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.720 him in twenty seventeen at the beginning. So you were 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.160 how old. I don't know what is it. I'm twenty 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.040 nine and it's twenty twenty four now. So you were 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.520 a confident woman. The fact that you even like knew 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.240 how to do that. I didn't. Yeah, but you did. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.920 But you had the inner guy, your north star was 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:02.680 like I can do this. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.440 Yeah, I have a lot of strong gut instincts. So 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.880 I you know, I feel like that's one thing that's 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.920 always guided me. It's like if I feel like I 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.400 can feel it in my body, I'm like I can 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.280 do this, or I believe in that, you know. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.599 Okay, So you saw Ian and you're like, I feel 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:17.280 this in my body. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.920 Yeah, I really feel like, you know, I don't know, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.800 it's that woman intuition thing. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.880 What was it when you saw him, You're like, Okay, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.640 you're the one that well you love with them right away? 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.240 No, okay, this talent. Yeah. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:35.040 So I met him at Belmont and I didn't really 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.480 know him. I was interning for a country artist at 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.320 the time and they needed a bass player and Ian 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.760 wasn't an artist when I first met him. He was 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.480 playing bass in other people's bands. So I saw him 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:53.120 do the country showcase at Belmont and she's playing bass 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.640 for a guy named Carlton Anderson, and I was like, 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.360 he sings harmony and bass. Let me like Facebook message 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.040 him and see if he wants to go on the 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.159 road with this guy. And he did and I ended 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.680 up stop interning for the one guy. So I never 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.280 really even got to like connect with him, but I 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.160 got him his first like touring gig. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.800 You got eating his first touring gig. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.360 Yeah, So that was crazy. You were kind of interning 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.320 for a manager, yeah, so you was that. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.080 I was more like just I was interning in everything 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.080 I could get my hands on to, like figure I 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.840 didn't you know when I was about I had no 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.440 clue what part of the music industry I wanted to 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:28.640 be in. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.280 I just knew I wanted to be in it. And 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:33.360 where'd you come from? I did come from. I grew up. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.480 Between Ohio and North Carolina, so I pretty much Charlotte, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.400 North Carolina's like where I went to high school and stuff. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.440 And you just knew you wanted to be in country music, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.360 not singing or anything. You wanted to be on the 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.160 business side, Yeah, business side, you knew. Yeah. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.040 But I also so you know, growing up in Charlotte, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.960 like the thing to do was go to country concerts, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.000 you know, like that was like the highlight of everything, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.720 you know, growing up. So I was like, I want 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.320 to do this. I went and visited Nashville. I was like, 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.880 I want to be in Nashville. Don't know how I'm 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.320 going to get into this, but I know I need 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.400 to be there. So I applied to Belmont and that 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.000 was the only school I applied to. Thank god I 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.720 got in, and you know, I was like, see you later, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:14.960 did you like Belmont? 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.280 I did? I mean, you know, it's at the end 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.360 of music Row, I was like, at least I'm in 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:20.920 the middle of it. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.040 Yeah, you know, do you feel like the internships really 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.240 helped you get your foot in the door to like. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:27.640 Totally, I think it. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.320 You know, you just gotta test the waters and see 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.480 what you're into and just it's more of a learning thing. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.319 And I feel like a lot of people don't do 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:36.040 that anymore. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.319 Like I think everyone thinks they deserve to be paid 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.400 right away. Yeah, And I'm like, you guys got to 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:41.959 figure it out. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:42.400 Yeah. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.400 Yeah, so that's just what I did to kind of 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:46.000 figure it out. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.720 But Okay, so you saw Ian, You're like you seeing 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.520 you play bass, you do harmonies, go on the road 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.480 with this guy, yep. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.360 And then we went our separate ways for a few years. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.200 Like I maybe saw him in class, like he's says, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.439 I had a class with him and whatever. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.280 He passed you. He basically got you through college, but 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.240 you cheated got I was like, wait, hold up, I 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.199 had better grades than you. I just didn't have to 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.160 try as hard because you just so you just check 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.400 on Ian's paper, Sure did I really I was one 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:19.960 of those kids. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.360 I was like, it was hard for me to be 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.720 in school. I wanted to be out in like hands 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.280 on and obviously I learned a ton being at Belmont, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.880 you know, learning all the copyright stuff. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.480 And things that t Yeah, exactly, but so it was 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:36.080 off in the long run. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.000 Yeah, it definitely pays off, but I was it was 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.040 hard for me to stay focused when you know, Nashville 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:43.679 is your playground and you're like, I need to get 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.880 out of here. But and Ian was one of those 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.439 kids that he was very much a part of the 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:54.600 Belmont like community. Like he had like a college band 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.840 with his friends, and like, you know, and I think I. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:09:59.840 Just wasn't our. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.160 See, you're talented, and that's like, I'm creative in a 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.880 lot of ways, but I'm not a singer or can 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.520 play an instrument, and I think that's a lot of 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.839 what the Belmont community is, you know. So I got 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:17.760 out of it when I could, But we one are 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.520 separate ways. I went on tour with a metal rock band. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.640 Yes, you did metal rock band? You're so awesome? Yeah? 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.800 Oh god, who was it called? Asking Alexandria? What is 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.960 what is what is there? What is their vibe? Yeah? 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.719 I mean they're really big in that genre. But I 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.000 met the lead singer and he is like, hey, do 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.560 you want to come help me out on the road? 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:42.960 And I was like sure. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.360 So that was a fun call because I called my 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.319 dad and said, hey, I'm dropping out of college to 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.280 go on the road. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.120 With these guys. What did you do for them? So assistant? TM, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.439 I mean everything you could think of. What does the 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.240 mad world like out there on the road? Wild? Nice? 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.760 I know the country were like the time out there? 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.319 Is it? Is? It? Is it fun? Oh? Yeah? Is it? 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.720 I mean intense? It's a party. It's a party. Yeah, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.200 it's a party. People just screaming all the time. Oh yeah, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:15.560 like I wash pits, stage diving, Like do people get hurt? Sure? Yeah, 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.319 I mean it's wild, it's it was. It was a 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:19.120 great experience. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.280 I did it for a year, but I was like 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:22.839 when I was done with it, I was like, I 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.640 need to get back to country music. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.199 Oh wait, Morgan Morgan, Yes, I just have a question. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.040 What was your craziest story from your time on the 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.280 road with asking Alexandria. I don't know if it's appropriate, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:39.280 it's always appropriate, it's appropriate. Tell us Caroline, Oh my gosh, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.480 I really can't like that's how bad it is. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.880 But like in what area can't you tell us? Is 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.319 it having to do with like people getting down each other? 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.400 No, I mean it was all fun like, but I 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.920 mean there, I would say one of the funnest things 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.559 for me on tour was them with them was I 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.520 like got to stage and that was like the craziest 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:02.920 thing ever. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:04.440 You know, you just have to trust that people are 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.959 gonna catch you. Yeah, And I mean it was so 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.160 much fun. I mean it was wild. Is it liberating, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.160 I guess all these hands. Yeah, I mean you're just 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.200 like it's just fun. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.959 You're literally like dive off stage and people catch you. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:20.920 It's crazy. And I never thought I would get to 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.920 do that because I'm not only saying of anything, but yeah, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.920 that whole camp was They're just good people and really fun. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.800 So okay, are they still banned? Yeah they are, Oh 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:35.800 go go them? 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.120 Yeah okay, so you're like, Okay, metal is great, lots 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:39.920 of crazy stories. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.480 I really just wanted the tour experience, you know, being 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.400 able to be on a tour bus and rock is 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.640 way more hardcore than country, and the fact that you're 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.520 out for a year, you know, you don't come home, 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:59.240 whereas country is more like weekend warrior stuff. So just 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.480 having a crash course on being able to live and 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.000 get used to being on a bus with how however 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.000 many dudes you got to like get used to it. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.920 But I'm very glad I had that experience before going 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.959 into Ian because I don't think I would have, you know, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.520 been as prepared. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.599 To see it firsthand, especially like you said, it's a 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.679 little more intense, a little more hardcore. Is that when 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.840 you kind of realized, Okay, managing is where I really 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:23.760 feel like I could shine. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.520 Yeah, So I kind of was like, I can figure 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:26.920 this out. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.080 So when I got done with that, I came back 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:36.680 and I started, not a public figure, which was at the. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.959 Beginning of it, a brand and management company. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.640 I've always been really into like style and fashion and 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.679 things like that, so I kind of had a clothing 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.199 line attached. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.920 To what I knew wanted. I wanted to become a 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:58.200 management company, Okay, and what what was the clothing? 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.480 Like, I mean it was like vintage, like cool. I'll 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.800 show you some pictures, but I mean I have yeah, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.400 I mean a lot of people were wearing it like 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.959 I had. Like Luke Combs and Nicole Combs came and 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.600 did a photo shoot, I had, you know, tons of people. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.079 You're just a little hustler. You get good ideas and 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.880 you get it going. Yeah, I mean everyone gets their 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:19.720 ideas to life. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.400 Like a lot of people have ideas and then they 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.280 never get born into the world. Yeah, you're like, I 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.240 got idea, I'm gonna go hone my craft and then 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:27.880 I'm gonna birth it to the world and it's gonna 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:28.280 be awesome. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.960 I gotta get it out of my brain or I'm 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.960 like go crazy. So yeah, I did that. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.800 But and I've in my mind, I was like, if 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.840 I can bring attention to just not a public figure itself, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.560 whoever artists I try to bring up, it'll help the 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.480 cause because you know, I'm a young girl that knows 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.720 nothing really, so who's gonna take me seriously? 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:57.240 You know? But I reconnected with Ian. I was in 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.880 tin roof with Travis Tritt and his fan. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.480 I became friends with them and they're great, and their son, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.920 Tristan came up to me and was like, you need 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.520 to check out this guy. He's so great and showed 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.880 me a song called Horses Are Faster on YouTube and 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:15.960 I said Ian musick, and I was like, I know him. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.120 I know him actually got him started. Yeah. I was 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.640 like no way. I was like, oh my gosh. And 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.120 they're like, you know him, and I was like yeah, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.800 They're like, we tried to reach out to him, but 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.240 he didn't get back to us. So I was like, okay, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.880 that's weird. Let me. I was like, So I called Ian, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.160 like out of the blue, Travis Tritz Bailey was trying 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.600 to reach out to him. Yeah, he can't get back 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.080 to Travis Tritz family. Ian, what you're doing? Ian thought 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.720 it was fake, so not really calling me. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.000 Yeah, And so I called Ian from tin Roof and 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.080 I was like, this is the weirdest thing ever, but 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.680 you need to come to ten Roof right now. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.240 So and so is here and they're big fans. I 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.560 was like, they would love to meet and he's like, oh, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.640 that's real. Like so that was that whole conversation. Did 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:57.440 anything come from that? 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:02.360 I mean, Travis actually did when a cover of with 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.240 Ian when he was very first starting out. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:07.360 So kay, cool. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.320 Your family definitely was very supportive about the beginning and 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:12.960 just there's the nicest people. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.880 Those kind of things are just sort of like nods 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.760 to you that I feel like, Okay, we're on the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.120 right path here. Yeah, you know, like this is this 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.200 is this is good. Yeah, getting confirmation. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.400 Yeah, it's all kind of making sense. So Ian and 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.360 I connected, and then from there I was like, hey, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.600 I want to start this. You know, obviously you have 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.080 something going on and I believe in you. Let's make 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.000 you your own artist. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:34.320 You know. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.720 So then how did that start? What was the process? 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.320 And he was like hell yeah yeah. I mean he 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.800 didn't have an you know, anybody else, uh knocking down 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.080 his door to exactly. And he you know, he had 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.720 like I said, he was a bass player. So the 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.160 Horses or Faster was just a. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.960 Song he did literally when he was eighteen and threw 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.920 it up on YouTube. And we literally still pay our 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.760 bills from that song. So really yeah, we own it 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.040 and everything, and we put it out on his first EP. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.480 So yeah, it just streams so much. Yeah, people just 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.439 love it. That's still one of his top five songs. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.440 Really yeah. What do you think it is about that 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.960 song that people just love? Probably the fiddle in it, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.920 the fiddle intro. I mean it's very stripped down Western. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.560 I mean it's. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.800 I don't know how to use his comparison any other way, 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:28.800 but it's Zach Brian way before Zach. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.879 Brian was ever. You know, it's like that style, but 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:38.000 it's just beautiful and people. I mean, does it make 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.119 you think of Wyoming? Oh? 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.159 Yeah, I mean there's no other place you think of 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.360 when you listen to or faster than Wyoming. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.160 And that's like Ian's thing, like he loves Wyoming, yes, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.240 like it is his he bleeds Wyoming. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.159 Yes, he was born and raised in Wyoming on a 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:57.919 cattle ranch. So that's been really great for me because 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.840 I got to build a brand from that. You know, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.280 is that kind of what you saw you saw you 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:02.720 saw it? 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:08.040 Yeah, I saw the vision and you know, in twenty seventeen, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.240 Western was very weird in Nashville. Like the way he 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.879 dresses now is cool like Beyonce's doing it. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.160 But because he's got like the button up rainers hat, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:19.520 the lola, the bolo. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.000 In twenty seventeen, we try to get a meeting and 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.639 they'd be like, what are you wearing? You know what 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.400 I'm saying. So because it was more like cargo pants 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:31.200 and like, yeah, Jordan's it was like bro. 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:37.120 Was hardcore, which yeah, you just had to ride it out, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.280 yeah exactly. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.760 And but I mean He's just authentic, and I think 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.200 that's been a very great thing for me because it's 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.720 making his brand so easy, you know, and clear. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.879 Like when you see Ian Munsick, you know that's Ian Munsick. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.240 When you hear his music, you don't have to guess 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:56.680 who it is. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.600 It's just very obvious that that's him. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.720 And it probably was hard in the beginning because it 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.159 wasn't the trend. But now I feel like people the 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.200 bro country's kind of like moved on. It had its moment, 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.520 and people are like, let's get to some real music 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.280 with not that that wasn't real, but you know what 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.040 I'm saying, like, let's get to some storytellers, Let's get 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:21.200 to some like authentic country voices and bring back And 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.320 you say this, like bring back country and western Like, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.800 do you really Ian's really on the forefront of bringing 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:28.240 that Western bay. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.000 Yeah. No, He's definitely at the forefront. I mean, I 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.080 think he's a big part of it. You know. I 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:44.440 think things like Yellowstone obviously helped. So tell me about 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.520 the Yellostone experience. I mean, we haven't ever been a 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:49.480 part of Yellowstone. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.960 We've luckily, like people like Cole Hauser, Luke Grimes or 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:53.600 fans of Ian. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.360 So he did something with Rip Yeah, yeah, Rip, Yeah. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.639 We did a private and Mo brings Plenty, So we 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.440 we've done a lot of things with Yellowstone actors, but 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.720 they've never played Ian's music on Yellowstone. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.119 It's coming, yeah, we'll see, but they have. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.720 What's crazy about Yellowstone is they've never played an artist 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.359 from that region. It's always been like Texas or like mainstream. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.320 So they need to catch up a little bit. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:26.560 Yea is like Yellowstone through and through, but their actors 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:27.159 get it. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.479 But yeah, we did a private event with Cole Hauser 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.760 and he's hilarious and really nice. 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.760 Rip right, yep, that's Rip. Yeah. We were just losers 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.880 with Luke Grimes the other night and he's gone country. Yeah, 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.960 he's doing and he's really good. I actually really like 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:50.240 his stuff. And then brings Plenty, who is the native 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:51.200 in Yellowstone. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.080 He we just did a documentary and he did the 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.040 panel for us when we premiered it, and he's been 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.800 a huge support and I'm really thankful for him. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.600 So talk to me about Voices of the West the documentary, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.680 because where did that come from? Obviously Ian's from Wyoming. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.680 Yeah, he's like it's in his blood. You see it, 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:11.679 feel it, love it too. 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.560 Y'all got married in Wyoming. I love you got married 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.280 in blue jeans, by the way, I did. I'm like 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.760 you were the cool list, Like you had a beautiful 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.240 white dude, that flowy top. 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.560 That shirt came from Sheen, Yes it did. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.760 Okay, So I eloped on a beach in the Bahamas 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.040 and I got married in a swimsuit cover. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.920 That was my dream. Yeah, the longest but you kind 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.920 of did. I did. I did my like mountain version 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:35.280 of that. Yeah. Yeah, Like my mom always thought I 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:36.879 was gonna get married in a white bikini. So I 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.480 was like, I don't want a wedding. I just want 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:39.120 to have a good time. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.919 I know, the wedding is stressful, it is something more 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:43.560 to plan and all these people you got to keep 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.080 up with and make sure they're having a good time. 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.840 I want to be selfish and have a good time 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.040 with me and my husband, you know. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.320 So okay, Well we gotta talk about the falling in 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.159 love of you and Ian back. We got a backtrack. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:54.800 But while we're here on Voices of the West. So, 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.399 so you got married in Wyoming, so. 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.520 You are like Montana. Oh, gosh, I used to dream 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:02.360 of living in Montana. 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.840 Gosh, yeah, that's We're either gonna end up back there 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:10.679 at some point. But Ian's on basically from the border 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.600 of Wyoming in Montana, so my Montana's only fifteen minutes away. 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:20.119 And we got married in Paradise Valley, which is just 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.560 one of many little church. Yeah, it was literally in 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.480 a gas station parking lot. So we have like pictures 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.439 at the Sinclair and then the chapels, Like was it perfect? 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.879 Yeah? Amazing? How did you? But I just love that 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:32.840 you wore jeans. I'm like, you have on jeans? That 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.040 is so cool. 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.160 Yeah, did you just know you were going to keep 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.040 it just authentic? So that's like you guys, like, cause 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:40.800 you're even though you're not from Wyoming, tell me. 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.040 Where you're from again, Charlotte, Charlotte. 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:46.840 Okay, so you have you just had country bleeding through you. 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.000 Do you feel like you are adopting Wyoming? 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:49.840 No? I do. 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.600 I Yeah, I feel like I've been so immersed in it, 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.879 just figuring out and understanding Ian and through the music 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.840 that I feel like I'm a part of it now 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:01.320 and we're. 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:01.960 There all the time. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.359 His family still lives there and our niece and nephew, 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.240 and we go back there a lot. 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.320 So okay, yeah, okay, So he just felt called to 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.639 document true cowboys from Wyoming, which are a lot of 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:15.560 the Native Americans. 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.320 Yeah. So, and his brother's a rancher. Yep. 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.560 Both of his brothers are ranchers and his dad. But 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:28.040 he it's interesting because we've also had to kind of 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.640 explain what the true West is. It's easy to get 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.159 an idea of what cowboys are based on you know, 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.040 Hollywood or TV or whatever, but Ian's the real deal 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.280 and it's important and it's important for his fans to 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:46.680 see that, you know, he's representing it accurately. But we 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.880 did our first debut album and it was called Kyote Cry, 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.240 and then we did White Buffalo and it was interesting. 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:57.520 I'd actually gotten some comments and they're like, aren't people 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.800 going to be you know, weirded out that like Ian's Cowboy, Cowboy, Cowboy, 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.200 and now White Buffalo was kind of like Indians vibe 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:09.120 and aren't. And I was like, cowboys and Indians aren't 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.320 enemies anymore or like twenty twenty four, like they're the cowboys, 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.080 you know, the Indians are the coupy. 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:15.320 Yeah. 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.639 So you know, Native Americans are cowboys. And I was like, 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.000 people don't know that story. They don't They think it's 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:26.040 you know, the wild West out here, and it's not accurate. 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.439 So I was like, what I guess is Yellowstone kind 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.440 of paint them as not I mean, they don't really 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:33.520 in Yellowstone. 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.560 I think they don't really even paint them as cowboys. 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.560 Like I don't see a lot of the Natives in Yellowstone. 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:47.200 They're doing you know, the casino business deal stuff, but 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.200 I mean the real deal cowboys are Native Americans, you know, 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.159 and that's who Ian grew up around. He grew up, 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.520 you know, fifteen minutes from the Crow res so that's 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.720 just pro reservation. So that's what what's influenced him. So 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.280 when we kind of figured out, Okay, people don't understand 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.520 this little part of the world and what it really is, 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.879 I was like, how do we explain this? And we 0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:15.440 did White Buffalo the album, we did the music video, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.920 and during the music video we did all the cast 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.879 was Native American and the director, who's one of my 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.439 great friends, is Native American. And while we were doing 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.160 the music video, I was like, wait, this is a document, 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.880 you know, this is something like we need to tell 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.160 these stories. So we just kind of turned the White 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:40.760 Buffalo music video into this documentary and Ian really just 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:42.359 let his friends tell their. 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.359 Stories and let people know what's real. You know, how's 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.680 that been? How's that been great? How's that been? Having 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.600 it out in the world because it's like streaming everywhere? 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.440 Yeah, yeah, no, it's on Amazon and all the places, 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.439 I think, but yeah, it's great. We did a big 0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:01.160 premiere of it in during an NFR and that was great. 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:06.280 That's writing now is it National Writing? National Finals? Rodeo 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:06.960 National Finals? 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.800 It's like the biggest deal for Western world. But now 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.480 it's I mean it's becoming pretty big for everyone. I 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.800 mean the amount of artists that were out there this 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.840 year that we're performing the stuff. I'm like, this is 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.720 obviously growing. But it's a huge, huge deal in the 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.880 Western world. So we did the premiere there Mo brings 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.200 plenty to the panel. We had the whole cast and 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.359 there was a lot of you know, influencers and country 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.920 artists and label and pr But to make it, okny, 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.400 that's small feat Yeah no, it was a lot. 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:39.960 You produced it. I did yeah, oh. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.800 Girl, I mean Carolin, you just like okay, I have 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:43.280 an idea. 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:44.960 It's gonna be a lot of work and really hard, 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.440 but I'm just gonna I've never done it for but 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:47.560 I'm just gonna figure it out. 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.760 Yeah, that's literally I think you sum me up. I 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.080 have probably never done it and I'm just gonna wing it. 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.040 In fact, do you where do you draw on your resources? 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:57.919 Like where do you go to like when you're like, Okay, 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.879 now I'm going to produce this documentary, Like where does 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.920 your brain go? Like what do I need to do 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.040 to make this happen? And then how do I make 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:05.440 it happen? 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:05.800 Yeah? 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.320 I kind of just think, Okay, who do I know 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.159 that owns this property? Or who can film this? Or 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.240 who can help us edit this? And I like to 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:19.120 think small. Like our documentary was literally a three man team. 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:20.399 It was me. 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:28.320 Cam who directed it and shot it, and then an editor, 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.960 Nick that we found from Ohio that had done some 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.879 Wrangler stuff and it was literally us and then Warner 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.040 helped me on like the licensing side. 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.800 And because Ian signed up Warner. Yeah, so that was 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.720 literally it. You need to take probably a year. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:45.920 Yeah. 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.600 Are you someone know when you start something and you 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.840 give your heart, you finish it. Yeah, like you don't 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.000 just like be like, oh crap, like this is a 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.680 lot no yeah reverse reverse. 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.600 Yeah, like no forward for once a minute a minute, 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.399 And I just got to get out, great, what a 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.119 team player you are to Ian is lucky to have you. 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.480 I mean that is you are a force of nature. Caroline, 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.280 thank you. Like I said, going a little crazy. So 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.159 let's talk about when y'all fell in love. Good stuff. 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.960 So all of a sudden you're like, oh, Ian Mussig, 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.719 I know him, I got him his first gig, and ya, 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.920 Travis Drat and his family are like, you need to 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.480 meet this guy. You're like, know him, and now you 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:25.240 see him, you realize he's got this image, he's got 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.520 this deep connection to Wyoming. You see the branding. It's 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.000 all like clear to you. But it's not necessarily the 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.080 right time in country music for him to make his 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.680 big splash because it was bro country. 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:37.800 So what do you do? What do y'all do? And 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:39.160 then where does the love happen? 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:47.240 I mean with him on we did this thing called 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.400 minute Mondays and he would film Ian can play pretty 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:55.400 much every instrument, and we would film these minute mondays 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.040 with a guy named gray Wood, and he literally he 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.320 would just do covers and would play like multiple instruments, 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.280 but it would just be him or multiples of him, 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.560 and we would post those every Monday. 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.720 And we just started like jilliding his his like Instagram 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.680 TikTok was not a thing because Instagram was going. Streaming 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.040 was just like starting, So we were just trying to 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:23.640 build it independently. Yeah. Yeah, everything was independent for a while, 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.640 and you guys were content creators in the very beginning. Yeah, 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:27.760 like the content. 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.640 Before really content, Like I was key, Yeah, I think 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.000 maybe Vine was out or something. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:34.600 But died on the vine. 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.800 Yeah yeah, like so yeah, we just went on trying 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.760 to build his awareness and like getting people to notice him, 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.080 and then eventually, you know, his streaming numbers got big 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:54.400 enough and uh Warner and other labels started reaching out 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:59.200 and said, you know, hey, who is this guy that's 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.520 streaming just as well as he? 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.080 So what are good streaming numbers to make it label 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:04.720 turn their head? 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:05.880 Like what? So? 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.960 Streaming for everyone listening streaming is like when you I'm 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.560 sure a lot of people know this now, but it's 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:12.160 like when you go and you just listen to Spotify, 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:13.880 or you go and you listen to iTunes, or whatever. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.400 It's online, and it's just like it counts. You get 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.280 all these streams, Like every time you hear a song, 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.000 you get another streams. So like when you get a 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:24.080 ton of streams, people are like, who is this? Yeah, dude, 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.120 I'm sure everyone knows what streaming is. I just talked 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.360 to them like they're a bunch of idiots. I know, 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.320 all know what streaming is. Okay, sorry about that. 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.719 I'm trying to even think what it would have been 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.680 in twenty seventeen, not what it is now. Now people 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.240 are getting like billions. You know, it's crazy. 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.440 But I mean I thought labels you did not even 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.600 want artists to stream. Like that's how crazy it was. 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.840 It was so new that they're like, don't stream because 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.080 that takes away from like your album cells or whatever. 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.280 So it's like it's been a new phenomenon that Ian 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:52.600 probably was at the very beginning of. 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.920 Yeah, he was, for sure. I would say, maybe, you know, 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.520 I know, independently, we got our first few million streams, 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.040 so in twenty seventeen, pretty good. 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:07.240 Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's with no like there 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.719 it's not like we were on any DSP like playlisting 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:12.160 or anything. 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:13.120 That's all organic. 0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.040 So that's the one thing about Ian is he's really 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.040 everything has been grassroots, in organic. 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:27.200 You know, No, you're good. Sorry, Yeah, And so we've 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:31.440 just really been proud of that growth because you know, 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.840 it's that real thing. It's real, like they show up 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.760 and buy tickets and they buy merch and they engage 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.200 and it's not fake like it's real. So that's been 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:42.320 very valuable to us. 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:47.480 Okay, so you are putting stuff out, you're still dismanaging. No, 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.720 like I want to kiss your face yet. No, I'm 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.360 trying to think when were you, Like, I gotta. 0:31:54.120 --> 0:32:00.240 Just like on the end of twenty seventeen and so 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.240 maybe like six seven months in. 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.640 I think we were just around each other so much. 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.000 I think we went we were in like California or something, 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.080 and yeah, I don't know. 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.200 It just kind of makes how happen. It's the cool Manti. 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.120 I feel like, No, I didn't been build it up. Yeah, 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.040 I feel like it was definitely slower at first. But yeah, 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.719 it's know each other. Yeah, no, and that was the thing. 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:33.960 We're just around each other all the time. But you know, 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.600 at the same time, it felt like very like taboo. 0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:41.560 But it was kind of exciting, but it's like, nobody's 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.480 gonna take us seriously if, like one, I'm what probably 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.720 I think I was like twenty four at the time. 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.600 Who's gonna take me seriously? One as a manager? You 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:54.880 know this kid that has you know, nothing really behind him, 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.360 let alone us. You know, oh, my manager's my girlfriend. 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:05.160 So yeah, we kept it on the DL. Was that 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:06.240 kind of fun to be secret? 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.000 Yeah? I feel like it was a little stressful because 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.680 I literally didn't tell my friends. I didn't tell nobody. 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.480 I told nobody, and I say, by the way, you. 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.040 And Lady Wilson bff were bff before she became Lady Wilson. 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.560 Yeah, yeah, okay, I can't wonder about that. That's so fun. Yeah, 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.080 but we, yeah, we kept on the d L didn't 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.040 tell my friends. I'm sure they could have assumed whatever, 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:33.280 but you know, nobody really asked or said anything. So 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:38.120 we just kept doing our thing. And then you know, 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.720 one thing led to another and we got pregnant. 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.719 And and you really can't keep it under a lot anymore. 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.720 So we were like, so we're trying to get pregnant 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.720 or act no, no, nokay. Crawford's like, I'm ready he's 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:50.960 got two cool people here. 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.000 My parents. 0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.600 He's like, I am ready to make my appearance and 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.520 there's nothing you can do about it. 0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:04.760 Yeah, So we got pregnant, and I think Lane was 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.560 the first person I called to tell her that I 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.680 was pregnant. Okay, so how do you know? Laney? 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.080 Like I know everybody else, I think I could not 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.360 pinpoint a day. I'm sure it was like tenor for 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:16.480 losers or something. 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.399 You know, you know how it is. So but yeah, 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.040 and yeah, this were instant, Like, yeah, I think we've. 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.840 All just been good friends. But she was definitely during 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.600 that period of like, oh crap, what am I gonna 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:33.520 do here? Like, she was definitely a great, great friend 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:45.359 to me for that. So yeah, through that process, that's great. 0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.160 Actually, I was kind of talking to you about friendships 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.080 earlier because I'm in a situation where it's like, how 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:51.600 do you be a great friend when you're in a 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.480 tough situation? You know, it's like how, so how not 0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.320 mean Laney in particular, but like how do you be 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:00.760 a great friend when in a situation? 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:01.800 What were you wanting? Like? 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.000 What did she do to support you when you're like, 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:07.640 oh crap, I am pregnant? I mean not married, yeah, 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.200 managing yeah, maybe daddy yeah, yeah, I know. 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.719 It was like, hey, by the way, Ian and I 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.160 are together and I'm pregnant, like yeah, Lifeline help. Yeah, 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:24.000 I mean she you know, it's just being there really 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.520 the freak out and being like, Okay, this is what 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:27.480 we're gonna do, you know. 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.040 I mean she went to like a doctor's appointment with me. 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.880 I like, you know, I think I like stayed at 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.279 her house once because it was hard on Ian and 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.200 I at the beginning, because he was like, crap, I 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.600 this is like my dream is to be a country artist. 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.279 Like I don't know how I'm going to handle this. 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.759 So there was a lot of like agreeing between us 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.360 of like how are we going to handle this? 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:50.759 You know? 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.359 So I'm sure I fought with him and stayed at 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:59.400 her house. So yeah, just being there is really the 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.720 main thing, and being like, no matter what, we're gonna 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.279 handle it, and just talking through it, you know, and 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:11.120 because all of it's crazy and whatever. You don't know 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:15.000 what's right or wrong these days, and I know, I know, yeah. 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.719 It's really and that I feel that I go back 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.000 to that all the time. I'm like, I don't know 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.759 what's right for people. I get feelings, and I get 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:22.319 overwhelmed with feelings about what I. 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:23.400 Think people should do. 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.560 But like, I've made choices and done things that people 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.960 probably thought were insane and not the right move, and 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.960 then they turned out to be exactly what you needed 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:31.200 to do. 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:32.640 Yeah, exactly. 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.759 And I mean, I'm sure a lot of people thought 0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.680 I was insane for getting pregnant by with Ian and 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.640 I'm trying to like manage. 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:41.000 His whole career. 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.400 And so then how did that happen? When now you 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.160 got a bump? You didn't tell anybody our day. 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:45.520 I didn't. 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.520 Luckily I was able to be skinny for a minute, 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:49.880 and then when I was and then when I was 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:51.200 not skinny, I was not skinny. 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.840 But I hit it for six or seven months. 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.959 You hate your pregnancy for six or seven months? 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:05.080 Yeah? How literally? I mean I don't know. I wore 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:05.920 giant shirts. 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.799 I mean I was tiny, and then I hit seven 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.680 months and I became gigantic. Like it's like, yeah, so 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:14.800 I think, yeah, so I think, what did I do? 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.200 I'm trying to think. The first thing I did was 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.360 I called all my girlfriends over to my house and 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.520 we made dinner and I was like, hey, guys, like 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.520 I'm pregnant, I'm dating Ian, and I don't think a 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:33.799 lot of them were like shocked by the dating Ian thing. 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.600 I think they put two and two together. I mean 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.480 we literally never told your friends. Literally, I mean, you 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.320 can hold a secret. Yeah, Jenna Hawking's my best friend. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.040 And and that's Nicole's sister. He's Mary luke Holm's h 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.720 Coole CMBs. Yeah, I know Jenna, but I know she's awesome. 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:53.640 Yeah she's the best. We're wild together. But uh yeah, 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.840 literally said nothing to like my best best friend and 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.480 that was Jenna. You know, so you're stone cold box 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:01.239 yeah killer. 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.400 I was just like yeah, I mean it was pretty intense, 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:09.320 just because I knew how much Ian's dream was on 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.520 the line and I wanted to make it work. I 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.239 was like, you know, we just had to figure it out. 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.719 But I eventually said down and told all my girlfriends 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.759 and then I was like, I'm going to announce. 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.080 It like the next day. 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.120 And what we ended up doing was we I was like, 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.920 if I'm gonna announce this, it's got to be like 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.239 the coolest baby announcement ever, Like it's got to be 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.759 the most perfect photo shoot ever or something. So we 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.200 went to like Greece for our like secret baby moon 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.600 and like I shot it and like Santorini is like 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.080 the most beautiful pictures ever. And I was like surprising, 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.080 and I are together and we're having a baby. 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:53.480 You know, stop it and I'm so cool. Yeah, how 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.160 were you received? How is everyone was excited? You know, 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.400 now they know you're the band. Now I know that 0:38:58.520 --> 0:38:59.560 you're the woman. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.880 Yeah, life and the baby mama, which you had not 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.279 told any of course, So that's a lot happening at once. 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:09.840 Yeah, But honestly, God was like on our side because 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.759 he knew this had to happen. And it's literally when 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.880 I say, as soon as we announce and let people know, 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.840 we got we signed with Uta or our booking agency. 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.800 We got a pub deal with you MPG. We built 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:30.000 our bigger team. I did a deal with her Wolsey 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:35.560 co he manages George Straight coated it with wol Yeah, 0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:41.520 and then we signed with Warner I mean label, yeah, label. 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.600 You know everything fell into place. Literally, why do you 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:46.160 think that was? 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.280 It's like you unleashed the secret and God was like God. 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:50.680 You know, I think there could have been a lot 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.680 of situations and this could be a touchy subject, but 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.680 I think there's other things I maybe could have done, 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.680 you know, and been like, you know what, this baby 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:03.719 is right for us. You know, work as a priority. 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.520 We're young, Like I could have done other things, and 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.600 you know, put work at the front. And I said, 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.080 you know what, like just put my faith in God 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.319 and it's gonna work out. 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.160 It's kind full chill. It's got full chilled because it 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.240 is faith. Hill says, a baby changes everything. It's terrifying, 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.160 especially for you guys when you're not planning for that, 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.719 and like you're in the middle of lunch, I feel 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:27.080 like you got. 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.279 Tears in your line. I know. It makes me just 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.759 emotionally to know all the choices you could have made 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.360 totally and then you choose life. Yeah, chose life and 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.040 it paid off. I mean, And how has being a 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.200 mom and Ian being a parent? I know he loves 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.640 it and you love it. How has it? 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.719 So it's like the biggest fear happening yep, that you think, 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.120 oh my gosh, we're just not getting things going, we're 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.800 just getting traction, and now we're going to have a baby, 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:54.520 and now who's gonna take me seriously? 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:55.240 As a manager. 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.279 Ian doesn't have time to be a father right now 0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:00.359 because he's busted at both ends. You don't have yeah 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.840 we have mother right now. It's like a lot, but 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.359 you say, yes, we will. 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.759 We're going to figure it out. You know. In my mind, 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:08.120 I was like, all right, how are we going to 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:12.759 tour in a van? Baby? Like is gonna be well adjusted? Yeah? 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:13.960 I was like, how are we going to do this? 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.600 And you know, like freak, sure enough we got a 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.320 tour bus on our first time out in the road, like, 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:23.279 we signed all our deals. The music was doing really well. 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:29.479 You know, my friends were amazing support system. And Ian 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:34.080 wasn't very religious before Crawford and you know, he changed 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.239 his life around really how so I mean just put 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.800 all of his faith, you know, into God and Jesus. 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.839 Sofford brought faith to Ian. Yeah yeah, so you serious? Yeah? 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.359 So babies really are little miracles, they are. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.800 They change your whole mindset. Yeah, they do all for 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:50.200 the better. 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.520 And you know, I think it really helped him because 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.880 everything with Ian was music was number one. And now 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.680 he has instead of just trying to make music for 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.919 its be the number one thing in your life. 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.360 You know, he makes music for Crawford. So it just 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.640 brings it a like there's a reason behind it, you know. 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:13.680 So yeah, it's amazing because like I remember before I 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.400 had Sonny, like I was we were ready to have it. Oh, 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.359 I was definitely ready. 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.200 Michael was probably a little bit more like I and 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.600 like if we have well maybe not like he just 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.520 wasn't thinking about it, you know, Yeah, but I mean 0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.200 I was thinking about it because I was like thirty 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.480 four and I was ready to have a baby, and 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.400 then we got pregnant after some losses. But it's like 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.719 you still have that fear of like, oh my god, 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.520 I've put my whole life into my career. This is 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.399 all I've ever known. 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.000 Not that the careers were like I mean, they were popping, 0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.399 but it's like there's still so much work to be done. Yeah, 0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:44.480 and it just feels like such an uphill climb and 0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:46.840 then how are you gonna do it with a baby? 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.279 And is it I feel like in the beginning you 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:51.919 just think of all the hard things that are gonna 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.480 happen with a baby. Yeah, and they are there, oh yeah, 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.080 but there's this whole other side of like gifts and 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.719 blessings and miracles and your heart exploding that you cannot explained. 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:06.280 One of my good girlfriends, she is a country artist. 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:07.000 She's amazing. 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.880 Her name's Casey Tendall, and she got pregnant about a 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.840 year ago and she called me and she's like, what 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.840 am I going to do? Like, and I was like, 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.680 your life, it's going to get better. It won't be 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.959 any easier, but it's going to be so much better. 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:27.920 And sure enough she's been rocking it and killing it 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:32.160 and her lane. So you know, I think there's a 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.400 purpose and children are a blessing and. 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.960 I just love I had an interview with Sarah Beth 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.759 Tait yesterday. She's an independent artist and like doing really great. 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.279 She's a mom too. Kind of was a surprise, and 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:45.239 it's the same kind of thing. It's like. 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.360 But I think for me, at least, I am craving 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.759 to see people making it work. I'm craving to see 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.719 a husband and wife stick together and love each other 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.120 and have a baby and be a family. Like I 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.160 am craving to see families wholesomeness. 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:06.440 We're just needing it. Yeah, I think, you know, especially 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:06.600 in the. 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.560 Music industry, can get so dark and weird, and yes, 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.520 it gives you bad vibes and like I'm like, Okay, 0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:15.440 the music's a jam, but I feel weird. 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.719 Listening to it, you know, because I know there's some 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.120 dark stuff off, like scenes that the persons saying. 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.920 Exactly, and I think people are just like craving that 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.960 wholesomeness and like scene you know, Like because at the 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:28.920 end of the day, no matter what people say, they 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:29.560 want a family. 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.160 They don't want to be alone, you know. 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:32.960 And you want and you want to know that it 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.040 can work. And like we're talking about earlier, marriage is 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.800 not easy. I can't even imagine for you being a manager, 0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.800 a mom managing you know, like a wife to eam 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.279 like changing those hats, like that has to be such 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.239 a cluster for your brain all the time. But like 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.560 it's like it's hard work, but you want to do 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:49.120 the hard work. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.600 But it's not easy. No, it's not easy. 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:55.399 I mean our marriage is not perfect, but like saying, 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.960 work really hard at it and it's like very rewarding, 0:44:59.239 --> 0:44:59.719 that worth it. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:00.640 Where's the work? 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.600 Yes, it is, and it shows in Crawford, like I 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.640 think we do, you know, because we're such a tight unit. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.200 He's literally the most perfect child, you know, And I 0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.080 think I think We bring him everywhere, We do everything 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:17.480 with him, and. 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.120 I love that it shows in him. 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:27.640 And I love that too because I feel like also 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.680 back in the day, it's like shifting right now and 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:31.279 you and Ian are part of that shift. It's like, 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.680 you know, a country artists needs to be single, needs 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.400 to be sexy, needs to be available, needs to not 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:40.839 have any attachments. But now it's like whoa, let's show 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:45.520 country artists male or female, loving their spouse, loving their family, 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.080 bringing them everywhere. You don't have to like throw your 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.240 your family life away to be a successful singer. 0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.000 I know. And I think it's showing in the past, 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.440 like I would say, in the past past couple of years, 0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:59.920 like I'm really seeing that. I'm seeing it with artists, 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:01.800 you know. I think at the beginning, a lot of 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.960 my I have a lot of female friends that are artists, 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.279 and they were always like never wanted to post that 0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.360 they had a boyfriend because they're like, oh, you know, 0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.840 I got to be available my guy. Yeah, so guys exactly, 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:13.719 I think they have a chance with me. Yeah. And 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.200 now I think it's just a different element and I 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.319 think people are invested in. 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.680 People's lives more than ever. I think probably because of 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.479 social media and they want to see people doing well, 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:25.960 you know. 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.600 Yeah, so I want to see how you do well. 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.080 Like that's why it's like I want to like, I 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.879 love watching you guys because it's like, gosh, that's so cool. 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:33.440 You know. 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:36.160 It's like because I know, being a married woman and 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.400 a mom too, it's like it's a married to an artist. 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.120 It's a lot. It's a lot of work. But it's like, gosh, 0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:43.120 anything worth doing anything is a. 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.759 Lot of work. Yeah, exactly. You gotta you have to 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.960 work to get the payoff. 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.960 And I you know, I feel like maybe after COVID 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.480 it feels like some kids are losing that mindset a 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.000 little bit. But you really have to put in the 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.320 work to get the reward, you know. 0:46:58.680 --> 0:46:59.160 Mm hmmm. 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:04.440 So what when you and Ian are just like, not 0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.360 the artist, not the manager, not the parent, what is 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.520 y'all's relationship? Like when you strip all the other titles away? 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.480 I mean, boring, this is what I this is what 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.600 I was gonna to talk to you about. 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.160 When we were talking on the side, it was I 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.280 had like a girls center the other night, and boring 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:22.719 is good. 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.799 Honestly, this is this is the thing I was like y'all. 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.160 I was like, I had a hard time for a 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.480 minute because I was like starting to get bored a 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.880 little bit. And then I had to remind myself. I 0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.839 was like, wait, boring is good. 0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.759 You're used to like the toxic relationships that the adrenaline 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.920 is up and down and like it's exciting, but you're 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.080 going crazy and that's not what you need. And boring means, oh, 0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.839 my life is literally where it's supposed to be. I'm 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.400 in place, I'm stable. Yeah. Like if we're not on 0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.840 the road, we're in bed at like seven thirty. Oh, 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.920 that's a dream watch you know what I'm saying, living 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.120 my dream. Yeah, well, I'm surprised you don't do that. 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.319 I do that. Sonny's in the bed with this too, Yeah, 0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:11.440 convert sleep with you. No, I'm on him about it, 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.960 but he does, like if his dad's way, I'll let 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:14.640 him sleep with me. 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.000 But once we started stunning in the bed that was 0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:18.480 two years ago. She's never gotten out. 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.759 See that's that's what I knew. I know. I love it. 0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:23.560 They're so cute and cuddly. Oh my god. 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.880 Sonny sleeps right in the middle and she just cuddles 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.279 me so hard. And we like literally sleep like just 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.680 locked in each other's arms. And Michael's like he's over 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.000 there watching Netflix, chilling myself. 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.200 He's happy too. We're all living our best life. So 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.839 I'm like, oh, the cuddle is just better. Crawford kicks 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.879 me in the face, so I'm like, boy, you gotta 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.120 go to your bed. Yeah, he's wow. Man. 0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.160 Yeah, if he was like that, I'd be like every second. 0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:51.800 But man, he's a bed hug, So okay, I feel. 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:52.319 You gotta get your sleep. 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.320 And it's nice and honestly, I mean a lot of 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.000 people are like, never put it in the bed, so 0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:56.600 I get that too. 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.320 It's nice to have some souls. 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.319 But it's like you have plenty of excpit and action 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.120 going on with your you and Ian's careers together. It's 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.720 like the fact that y'all do get to be boring together. 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:11.360 That's saying so much about you guys. All the craziness 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.520 is in the work. Yeah, but the home life is 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.200 sorry and stable and calm. 0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.600 Yeah exactly. I mean it's it's very calm. Like we 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:23.040 have our routine with Crawford. We have we get into 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:28.160 like I don't know, periods where it gets madness and 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.920 we're traveling all over the place, but you know, when 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.560 we're home, it's we're chilling, you know. 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.320 So I told Michael that the other day. I was like, 0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.399 Sonny and I can chill so hard. 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:40.680 Michael can chill hard too, but like we can chill, 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.600 Like we go hard, but we can chill hard. 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.399 Can you chill hard? Oh? Yeah, I can straight chill. Ian. 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.200 It's a little harder for him, Like I thank him 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.640 just being from Wyoming and his This is like one 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.200 of the first times I want to stay to his parents' 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:55.280 place in Wyoming. 0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.400 They get up African five in the morning. There are ranchers. 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.080 They can't wake up with the sun, I know, And 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.960 I'm like, they're freaking judging me that I'm sleeping until eight, 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:08.520 Like you know what, You're like, yeah, do it, And 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.040 I'm like, they work hard. And so Ian wrote did 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.680 he write that song Leather? Yep, that Cody Johnson. 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.680 Okay, and we'll wrap up because there's already fifty minutes 0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:17.080 in which I can't believe because I just love talking 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.520 to you so much. But so he and Cody Johnson 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.400 have had a very strong relationship Leather, Like, because I 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.400 was watching an interview I died, and he was, like 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.280 you said, like he'd never had been writing for other artists. 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:29.280 He's been writing for himself. 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.640 And he's a very unique artist with a very unique voice, 0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:34.399 with a very unique message. So it's not like he's 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.160 just pitching his songs everyone, yeah, because's they're very hymn yep. 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.360 But Cody Johnson's kind of the artist that like they 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.920 kind of like cross yep because they have that cowboy 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.560 lifestyle together, which of course the cowboys found each other, yes, exactly. 0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.799 So he recorded Leather, which is such a great song 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.840 talking about cowboys being leather made of leather, and Cody 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:53.160 heard it. 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:57.880 Yeah, So yeah, Cody is the real deal cowboy, like 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.520 he is. Music is his side job, the grand scheme 0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.520 of things really is like full time cowboy. 0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.319 When he is home, he works a ranch. 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:10.160 Yeah, and his wife is superwoman, love her and they 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.200 have two cute little girls that Crawford loves. 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:16.960 Yeah. We were on tour with them. 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.880 Over a year, maybe two years, I don't know. We 0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.480 were on tour with him for a long time and 0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.560 he was the first guy to really give Ian a shot, 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:28.759 uh you know. 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:33.960 Being on a big tour and they ended up doing 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:35.480 along with cowgirls together and you. 0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.040 Pitched that one to Cody. Yeah, I did, and that 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:39.359 was like a duet that kind of was a game 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:40.040 changer for Ian. 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:40.800 Yeah it was. 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:43.839 I mean, yeah, that song has kind of become an 0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:49.319 anthem and it's been streaming like crazy and doing really 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:50.720 well in every concert. 0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.800 I mean, girls are crying, boys are crying like this 0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.920 is the woman I love like and it's you know, 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:00.680 and it's not just about cowgirls. 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.640 It's like the song is you know, women make it 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:07.120 through anything at all times, you know, and it's a 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:11.279 power of a testament to their strength. Really, so I 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.799 think that's why that song resonates. But we were every 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:20.640 night on tour, we would go hang on Cody's bus 0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.720 and you know, have a drink and just listen to music. 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:26.960 And like Cody would play the stuff he's excited about 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.479 or whatever music he likes, or his band guys would 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.680 and Ian would do the same, or I would be like, 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:38.840 you need to play this song. But so out of 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:43.879 one of those nights, Ian pitched him Leather and Ian 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.919 really didn't want to give this song away. 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:47.839 It's a great song. 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.360 Yeah, he wrote it about his brother, who's like a 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:55.040 real deal, like Toughest Nails Rancher, his middle brother, and 0:52:55.920 --> 0:53:00.279 so it's you know, it resonates with Ian and but 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.319 Ian played it, Cody just like stared at. 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.279 Him and was like I need this song. 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.120 And he was like, I'm not even working on an 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.319 album right now, but if you give me this song, 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.480 I will cut it and name my album after this. 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:16.359 Yeah. It hit him that hard. 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.040 Yeah, so he pretty much the Leather. Yeah, he named 0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.440 his album Leather. His tour right now is called Leather. 0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:25.120 And then yeah, he created an album based. 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.080 Off of this song. 0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:29.200 But because Cody is and he's such a real little 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.000 like singer songwriter too for him to want to cut 0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.480 someone else's song, says a Ton. 0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:36.239 Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he really cares about the song 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:38.440 and the message, and I think it just hit him, 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.040 I mean so true. 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:46.520 Yeah yeah yeah, And so that's been really cool to see. 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.960 We were just at the opry with them and just 0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:54.879 you know, seeing how the song that song is hitting 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.000 people is incredible. Ian's brother. 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:02.640 Actually this past week, Ian a video of him he 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.440 was like working cows and it was Leather came on 0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.880 the radio. And so the song that Ian wrote about 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.520 him and Cody's singing his brother sent the video and 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.120 he's literally out working cows. 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.120 I I was like, so, you know, it's just that's 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.080 where music is so powerful and so cool. 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:21.759 There's so much in the business, which I'm sure you 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.719 deal with on a regular basis that like can like 0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:25.920 wear you down, but like when you do have those 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.360 magic moments, it's like, Okay, yeah, this is why we 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:30.879 do it. This is why we do it because music 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.440 is freaking magical. Okay, So, is there anything that we 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.640 can be looking forward to what's coming up? Like what 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.400 are you excited about in Ian's career and just in 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.040 life in general before we wrap up? 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:44.560 Yeah, I can't believe how fast this is. I know, 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:45.920 I know, we're fifty five minutes. 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:51.239 I'm like, we literally just announced a deluxe version of 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:52.520 White Buffalo the album. 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.279 Today. We put out the first single off of it, Heartbreaking, 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.640 and that's been popping off on TikTok and all the things. 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.719 So to check that, so Ian pops off. Yeah, we try. Yeah, 0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:04.920 it's a lot to keep up with. 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.600 Like social media is a whole job in of itself. 0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.239 Yeah, oh it is. It's a whole lot. Yeah. Oh 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:12.840 I hate it, I do, I want to love it. 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:13.239 I do. 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.799 I want to love it because I know it's so great, 0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:18.360 but I'm like, am I just too old to love it? 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.239 Because I know these like young kids like love it 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.120 and they just like love to express themselves through it. 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.400 But I'm like, I have to like make myself. I 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.239 love it. I wake up day and I love I 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:27.360 love social media. 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:29.600 I love so just if it wouldn't take a freaking 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.080 hour to make a TikTok video, I'd like it more. 0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:35.080 But I'm like, I got other things to be doing. 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:36.680 Okay, So White Buffalo to Lux. 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.080 We got the Voices documentary was of the watch the 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.520 Voices of the West documentary. 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:46.840 I think you learn just so much about let alone 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:48.800 Ian and who he is and who his heart is. 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.799 But I love you actually learn about the real West. 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.840 What a cool way to present him though, and what 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.040 matters to him in this culture. Like that's so cool 0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.400 and so just like authentic to you guys, because it 0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.160 just like hit you, like we just need documentaries to 0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:01.719 show the truth. 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.680 Yeah. No, I mean it just flowed and it turned 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:06.560 out really beautiful. 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:09.320 And I always trust the flow when you're in the 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:10.720 flow at all, exactly. 0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:11.080 It's hot. 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.080 It's hard work, but you're in the flow, it all 0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:15.160 happens exactly. You just got to get through it, ride 0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:15.480 the wave. 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:19.319 I love that. Yeah, new music, watch the documentary. I'm 0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.319 sure catch some shows, some stuff. Yeah, shows, touring we're 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.879 going on toward Laney. Are you so excited. Yeah, that's 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.759 going to be that's a huge tour. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.320 it's a huge door. Yeah. I know, big deal. I know, 0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:33.439 miss Entertainer of the Year Grammy winner. 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:35.279 But I love that you are connected even before that, 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:37.279 like that the roots run deep. 0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:38.200 Like that's so cool. 0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.400 Yeah, I think that's a lot of that's a lot 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.560 a lot of people in town though, in Nashville. I think, 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.000 you know, we all kind of I felt like a 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:46.960 lot of us came here about ten years ago, and 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.640 it's been so fun to just see the come up 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:53.480 of everybody and just be a part of the process. 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.680 So it's been cool. I love that. Okay. 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.759 I always wrap up with leave your Light and it's 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.759 super open ended. Whatever comes to mind. What do you 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:07.640 want people to know? Just to inspire them, trust your gut. 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.680 And follow your instincts and you know, keep Jesus at 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:17.520 the center. Amen to that. Yes, So that's what I 0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:18.000 want you to know. 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:20.880 Thank you, Caroline, Man's sick for joining me and if 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.880 you're cool, we stick around for an episode of Call 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.600 Caroline where we answer some burning questions from listeners. Yeah, 0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:29.040 of course, Okay, they're burning hot. So that'll air on Thursday. Awesome, 0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:30.040 Thanks Caroline,