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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Getty

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Speaker 1: and he Armstrong and Getty. Man. What is better than

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Speaker 1: coffee when you're needing it? Asipa coffee?

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Speaker 2: Very few things that don't include friction of naked bodies.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's right up there. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta see the visual for this. This is

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Speaker 1: a This is a troll. He's a troll. He's trying

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Speaker 1: to cause problems.

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Speaker 2: And it's a guy addressed in a kind of cartoonish

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Speaker 2: like Indian gear gear. He's got a headdress on, he's

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Speaker 2: got some colored stripes on his cheeks, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: And these they're in Minnesota fronting some of the people

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Speaker 2: protesting ice.

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Speaker 1: And this is what he says.

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Speaker 3: I'm transcendigenous, are you? Are you cis American? I'm transcendigenous

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Speaker 3: for ice?

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Speaker 1: Ice. We love ice, we love ice. To poort them all.

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Speaker 3: You're all trespassers on our land. Well, transcendigenous people are

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Speaker 3: indigenous people, and you're all trespassers on our land. And

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Speaker 3: we want Bobino to deport all of you guys, we

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Speaker 3: love ice. Trans Natives love ice. We love you ice.

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Speaker 3: We love ice. The TransNation. TransNation is just as valid

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Speaker 3: as CIS nations. You're not transnative phobic, are you?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I'm just checking. You're a SIS American, I'm transcendigenous. You

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Speaker 3: really need to check your privilege because you're talking to

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Speaker 3: a beautiful transcendigenous person of.

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Speaker 1: Colorized I believe. I'm hoping to learn more.

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Speaker 3: About your personal I'll educate you because your CIS pigment.

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Speaker 1: So the best about that to me was that the

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Speaker 1: guy that the troll was talking to didn't have, you know,

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Speaker 1: the courage to like say I get out of here,

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Speaker 1: you idiot or whatever. That he had to take. He

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Speaker 1: had to take it seriously because he didn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't exactly sure what was going on here. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of those terms he's very sensitive to. Are

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Speaker 1: you working me around but you're using my terminologies? So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Are you hostile to

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Speaker 1: cist trans indigenous people? Well? No, but I just wonder

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Speaker 1: what you believe because he's you know, he's got to

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Speaker 1: be very careful. He knows these are hot, hot terms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that guy was in New York. Wasn't he during some

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Speaker 1: of the pro hamas uh protests. I love that bit.

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Speaker 1: It's such a good bit. We're living in weird times.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you notice it.

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Speaker 2: So this is an interesting one on uh uh connecting

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know who David from is.

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Speaker 1: He was a speech writer I think for George W. Bush.

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Speaker 1: But he's one of those people that have realized and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like Trump. That's fine, that's perfectly legit that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like Trump. And he's a Republican who wanted

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Speaker 1: to go never Trump. But then he, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, cross over into Wait a second, what happened

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Speaker 1: to all of these issues that you cared about as

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Speaker 1: a conservative? Now you go on MSNBC or whatever channel

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Speaker 2: Everything conservatives do, and you're making lots of money, And

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Speaker 1: Drives me nuts. Anyway, David fromm had tweeted out Trump

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Speaker 1: lets Iranian freedom marchers die while preparing to kill Danish

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Speaker 1: open Source Open source I INT, which is intelligence, which

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Speaker 1: is usually accurate. That said, Denmark is deploying an advanced

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Speaker 1: aircraft from the Royal Danish Air Force? Is that true? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Are the days suspect it is? You think the Danes

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Speaker 1: are preparing for military action against the United States? That

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Speaker 1: what he's said his way over the line. It's improper.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you're going to come for us,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he should talk as if it's

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Speaker 2: But I'm surprised Denmark's were playing. But anyway, that's not

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Speaker 1: So David from attaches his tweet to that Trump lets

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Speaker 1: From these are both very high profile people, Ian Bremer

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Speaker 1: fact preparing to kill Danish NATO comrades. This is a

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Speaker 1: good thing to point out. Yeah, no kidding, Ah, don't

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Speaker 1: in the facts get in the way of a good tweet.

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Speaker 2: Lots of responses like it's incredibly naive and over the

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Speaker 2: smug of you to at this point take the administration

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Speaker 2: with people in Knight, not hyperbolic focus on serious threats,

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Speaker 2: serious threat, especially because the latter diminishes credibility of those

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Speaker 2: offering criticism. Love that sort of talk for me and

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Speaker 2: Bremmer trying to talk to people. Don't go around saying

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Speaker 2: Trump's planing to kill Danes when he's not.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't help anything.

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Speaker 2: But the question is, and the question of our time

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Speaker 2: really is who's gonna win the day? People like Ian

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Speaker 2: and I think us who are trying to calm things

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Speaker 2: he's on my side, but that's not true what they

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Speaker 2: just said. Are we gonna win the day or the

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Speaker 2: David Frums or the bomb checkers or the exaggerate and

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Speaker 2: you know, preach to the choir crowd and get them

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Speaker 1: Is that gonna win the day? And I actually don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's a coin flip. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I think both things will coexist and wash

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna be good enough. I

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Speaker 2: think I think our side needs to clearly win the

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Speaker 1: If it's a then we're doomed. I like to know

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Speaker 1: what I'm doomed and renewed, because then you don't bother

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Speaker 2: So your p doom is one hundred percent and very soon.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. It's one hundred percent, but maybe

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. I think the animal instincts of human beings

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Speaker 1: are difficult to contain when they become a mob, and

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Speaker 1: the Internet has allowed for the instantaneous forming of mobs. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's here's something.

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Speaker 2: Joe and I have talked about this a little on

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Speaker 2: or not we could be much much more wealthy if

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Speaker 2: we would just play the game that you know, Megan

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Speaker 2: Kelly seems to be playing, and lots of people are playing.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you lose all credibility and we'd lose

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Speaker 2: lots of listeners and that sort of stuff. But I

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Speaker 2: to hear our sides always right, the other side's always.

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Speaker 1: Wrong, And just play that for a while and I'll

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Speaker 1: bet it feels pretty good. You know, do more live

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Speaker 1: you say exactly what they want and they're cheering. Oh yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For the record, our discussions are mostly just a mental

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I gotta believe it is. Oh of

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Speaker 1: or there's some truth to that, but maybe it's gone

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Speaker 1: so and so's a fiend. Never any nuance or gray area. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'd be effortlessly well, not only would it be, just

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Speaker 1: a weird way. But again, anyway, I just wonder who's

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Speaker 1: guy who's a speech writer for a president, going around

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Speaker 1: to say and Trump's planning to kill Danish soldiers. Now

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Speaker 1: David From is a DC climber, like all DC climbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a bright guy, but he's a phony. Ah, speaking

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Speaker 1: in sport, specifically dudes who want to compete against girls

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Speaker 1: Anastasia Boden, senior attorney at the Pacific Legal Foundation, about

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Speaker 4: It's only banning transgenate athletes from playing on the girls team, right,

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Speaker 4: So it isn't a ban in totality on playing sports.

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Speaker 1: Sex characteristics that you do. Yeah, he corrected himself to

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Speaker 1: not get mixed up in the whole radical gender theory thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a question of sex. Supreme Court hearing arguments yesterday

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Speaker 1: and the whole transgender thing. We're one of.

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Speaker 2: The One of the boys who says they're now a

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Speaker 1: Childish and irrelevant. That's true. It's true, that it is true.

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Speaker 1: Yes on a Stasia Boden of the Pacific Legal Foundation

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Speaker 1: play a handful of clips. Maybe you heard these early

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Speaker 1: in the show, if you've been listening the whole time,

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Speaker 1: If you have, God bless you, thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: But these are so interesting. Number one, we'll start with

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Speaker 1: fifty five. This is Kaitanji Brown Jackson. She utters certain

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Speaker 5: You have the overarching classification, you know, everybody has to

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Speaker 7: If it does that, then is it not necessary for

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Speaker 7: Well, how can a court determine whether there's discrimination on

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Speaker 8: I think here we just knowed. We basically know that

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Speaker 1: Okayma Haamanahamana, one of the smartest people in America, faced

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Speaker 2: I wish they'd release their ruling, especially if it's if

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Speaker 2: they're all like this one's obvious soon because you got a.

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Speaker 1: Whole spring full of high school sports that are going

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Speaker 9: This notion that this is really just about the definition of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people signed their sex at birth. It's observed anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's all about the lingo with the progressive activists and

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, less difficult to read here than the

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Speaker 10: They might aggrieved, and it led to this lawsuit, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know men were generally better that chess than women.

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Speaker 1: you're right that the Supreme Court is going to go

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Speaker 1: the way it seems clear that they will. But am

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Speaker 1: I also correct that they didn't really get into Title

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Speaker 1: nine per se, because if you recognize that there are

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Speaker 1: men and there are women, but some men are not

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Speaker 1: very manly, so we got to let them in with

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Speaker 1: the way, you've got to tear up Title nine and

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Speaker 1: end it because it has no meaning anymore. It gets

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Speaker 1: into an incredibly cumbersome how manly is he? Individual test?

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Speaker 1: In every aspect of American life that's affected by Title nine.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And what's interesting is

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Speaker 10: a few years ago, under Title six, which governs discrimination

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Speaker 10: in the workplace, there was a Supreme Court case asking whether,

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Speaker 10: which again for bids discrimination basis of sets in the

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Speaker 10: workplace necessarily also bads discrimination on the basis of transgender

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Speaker 10: status and just Discorsich in that case wrote the opinion saying,

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Speaker 10: you know, discrimination based on sex is necessarily discrimination based

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Speaker 10: on trans gender status. And so now the plaintiffs are

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Speaker 10: seizing on that in this case and saying, see, the

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Speaker 10: same thing is true in Title mine. But Title nine

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Speaker 10: really brings out the absurdity of that argument, because you know,

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Speaker 10: if you talk about workplace discrimination, it's easy to say, Okay,

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Speaker 10: we shouldn't have you know, I think the equities are like, okay,

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Speaker 10: let's not discriminate. We don't want to have discrimination against

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Speaker 10: transgender people. But in Title nine, you are now pitting

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Speaker 10: women against the transgender people because saying that we can't

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Speaker 10: discriminate against transgender people now necessarily infringes the right of

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Speaker 10: women to compete fairly, which was the entire purpose of

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Speaker 10: Title nine. So it's true Title nine is bringing out

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Speaker 10: a lot of these absurdities that have sort of been

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Speaker 10: swept under the rug in previous cases and showing how

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Speaker 10: the whole thing really is not workable.

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Speaker 1: In the same way, if.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to a how manly is the man?

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Speaker 2: Can he participate in women's sports and men's sports. Then

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Speaker 2: you got a guy who drives a truck, but like

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Speaker 2: salsa dancing. You know, it's a tweeter.

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Speaker 1: You got to try to figure out case by case.

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Speaker 1: Incredibly cumbersome.

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Speaker 2: I've heard some legal experts say this could be like

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Speaker 2: very narrow. It's just it upholds these states that said

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Speaker 2: you can't do this and doesn't go rund any further

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Speaker 2: than that. Another I've heard other legal experts say this

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Speaker 2: could like have an effect on you know, the whole

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Speaker 2: gender neutral bathroom thing and all kinds of far reaching

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Speaker 2: parts of the trans discussion.

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Speaker 1: Where do you land on that?

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Speaker 10: You know, the Court likes to take incremental steps. Everybody

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Speaker 10: thinks that the Court is some imperial court just imposing

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Speaker 10: their opinions and taking over the world, when in reality,

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Speaker 10: if you look at it, the Court is doing less

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Speaker 10: work than ever. They're taking fewer cases than that two

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Speaker 10: they yeah, but I would like the Court to do more.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's their job. They're the last bastion for

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Speaker 10: our liberties when the legislature fails to protect our rights,

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Speaker 10: and so there, I think it'll be narrow. And what's

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Speaker 10: even more interesting is one of the plaintiffs in the case,

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Speaker 10: the plaintiffs who took steps to mitigate their physical advantage

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Speaker 10: due to sex actually ask the court to dismiss their case.

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Speaker 10: That person said, I don't plan on doing sports anymore

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Speaker 10: in college. Just dismiss this case. I don't want to

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Speaker 10: deal with it. And the court so far has said, no,

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Speaker 10: we're going to hear it anyway. We already granted cert.

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Speaker 10: You can't change your mind now that we granted cert

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Speaker 10: and try to get the case dismissed. But that's a

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Speaker 10: pretty interesting thing. That's very unusual. Typically, if plaintiffs went

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Speaker 10: out of a case, the court is more than happy

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Speaker 10: to get it off their docket and not have to

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Speaker 10: deal with these hot button topics. And I kind of wonder, now,

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Speaker 10: after or argument, which was, you know, pretty difficult to

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Speaker 10: sort through, if the court will in fact dismiss that

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Speaker 10: case because the plaintiff doesn't want it.

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Speaker 1: So I need to at least bully tip my cap

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Speaker 1: again to the notion that I can't believe we're having

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Speaker 1: to answer and or ask an answer these questions about

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Speaker 1: the most intrinsic and obvious facets to human life. But

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Speaker 1: helped me out because I'm not a constitutional attorney. There

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Speaker 1: is a very brief description of what forms a class

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Speaker 1: of people, like a protected class. Does that ring a bell?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Typically, yeah, our civil rights laws and equal protection law

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Speaker 10: protects classes with traits.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, can you repeat that, you glitch out? Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yes, Typically our civil rights laws protect you know, type

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Speaker 10: classes of people with immutable characteristics.

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Speaker 1: Right right, exactly, So like cool and uncool could not

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Speaker 1: be a protected class or fun and a real drag.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for instance, and exactly we played earlier a

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Speaker 1: guy who goes to generally left wing protests and he

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Speaker 1: claims to be trans indigenous. He is, he is a

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Speaker 1: white guy, but he's now he identifies as an indigenous person.

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Speaker 1: And it's to me it's as absurd to claim you

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Speaker 1: are a woman as a man because you've decided to

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Speaker 1: be a woman. I mean, otherwise you could like have

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Speaker 1: exceptions to civil rights law for a black guy who

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Speaker 1: like to cite some terrible cliches, doesn't like to dance

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Speaker 1: and quote unquote sounds like a white man and is

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Speaker 1: republican and the rest of it, because psychically, psychologically his

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Speaker 1: self conception is very much white. I mean, that's that

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Speaker 1: is considered repugnant and silly. But to say, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: totally a girl now, So I mean, and I grant

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Speaker 1: that there could be neurological situations, but didn't he get

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Speaker 1: the sense that the Justice Alito especially was asking what

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Speaker 1: the hell are we talking about here? Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And you know, I love Justice Alito argument. He's

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Speaker 10: a fan past the lawyer, and he acts like a

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Speaker 10: lawyer on the bench. And you know, one of the

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Speaker 10: things you said in argument yesterday was, well, how about

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Speaker 10: those women who don't want to compete against trans athletes?

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Speaker 10: Are you calling them bigots? You know, you just flat

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Speaker 10: out asked that question. And so he was bringing out

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Speaker 10: some of this absurdity. But another person who has brought

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Speaker 10: out that absurdity is Justice Barrett. Because of course, the

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Speaker 10: planiffs here are trying to say, hey, we are a

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Speaker 10: protected class and we have historically been subject to discrimination,

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Speaker 10: and so we get heightened protection under civil rights laws.

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Speaker 10: They say discrimination based on trensender status is special and

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Speaker 10: gets heightened protection compared to anybody else who might sue.

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Speaker 10: And so far the Court hasn't answered that question. But

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Speaker 10: last term Justice Barrett wrote a separate, a concurring opinion

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Speaker 10: that's not binding on the court, but just articulating her

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Speaker 10: views where she said that can't possibly be true because

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Speaker 10: being TRAMS is not an immutable characteristic. It can mean

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Speaker 10: many things. It's a huge class of people that's constantly

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Speaker 10: changing on a whole bunch of decisions and different traits,

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Speaker 10: and you know, it spans all these different ideas of

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Speaker 10: self identification. And also, you have not been subject as

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Speaker 10: a class to whatever that class means, to the same

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Speaker 10: type of state sponsored discrimination as say, minority races or

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Speaker 10: minority religions. And so she already went out in a

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Speaker 10: separate opinion last year. She stepped out and said that, like, hey,

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Speaker 10: this is not a class that gets special protection. So far,

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Speaker 10: the court hasn't answered that question, and we might get

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Speaker 10: it in this case. And I suspect they will take

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Speaker 10: your view of things, which is, we can't even hardly

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Speaker 10: identify this class, let alone say that it's entitled to

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Speaker 10: some sort of special protection.

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Speaker 2: Well, last quick question, because we're out of time and

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a shock jock here. Did

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Speaker 2: the terms penis or vagina ever come up at any point?

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Speaker 10: No, I did hear pelvis?

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Speaker 1: This kind of interesting when that hell, yeah, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: sex identicy fight at birth or identified. No, it's a

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Speaker 1: signed which is hilarious and again prejudicial verbally speaking, Anastasia

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Speaker 1: has written a really super interesting column, the most Unorthodox

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Speaker 1: Descent You've never read about the presidential war Powers. I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid we're out of time, but we'll have a link

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Speaker 1: at Armstrong and Giddy dot com. It's definitely worth a think, Anastasia.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had more time, but we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 1: Well done, Thanks thanks for having me by bye s.

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Speaker 1: Maybe those terms had come up with someone Clarence Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Does this a person have a penis or a vagina?

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Speaker 1: You know that's sort Did they ever have a penis? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Just you know, getting down to the nuts and bolts

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Speaker 1: of it if you will. Oh, they didn't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we will finish strong next. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Trump is still talking about taking over at Greenland, and

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Speaker 11: he said that if we invaded, their only defense would

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Speaker 11: be two dog sleds. Christie Noman was like, I can

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Speaker 11: take care of those.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, give me one more joke, Michael, take another shot

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Speaker 2: at a joke At the back.

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Speaker 11: Chuckie Cheese said that he wants to make a film

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Speaker 11: about the franchise.

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Speaker 1: It'll be a horror movie.

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Speaker 11: When someone brings a black light into a Chuckie.

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Speaker 2: Cheese, which, you know, similar to that movie about Ray

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Speaker 2: crock and McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Could be very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I like that sort of biopick about somebody starting an

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Speaker 2: incredibly successful business.

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Speaker 1: We have a new highest grossing actor of all time.

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Speaker 2: Up until like yesterday when the new news came out,

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Speaker 2: it was Scarlett Johanson. I didn't realize that she's the

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Speaker 2: highest grossing actor of all time. Now, I gotta believe

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Speaker 2: this stuff is not adjusted for inflation. Almost certainly isn't.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise I think it'd be Schwarzenegger probably.

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Speaker 1: And unless it's a one man show, one woman show,

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Speaker 1: how do you make shirt? Anyway? Because Scargo's in the

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Speaker 1: the silly superhero movies, right, yeah, but I think you're

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Speaker 1: all ensemble movies, right Storkmaker or.

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Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds or I don't know, lots of people if

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Speaker 2: you adjusted for inflation, that were really really big deals

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Speaker 2: back in the day. But anyway, it's now Zoe Saldana,

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Speaker 2: who I wouldn't be able to pick out of a

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Speaker 2: lineup actually, but she's forty seven years old and she

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Speaker 2: was in those Avatar movies and all three of them

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Speaker 2: have been giant the like top three grossing movies of

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Speaker 2: all time, again not adjusted for inflation, because they never do.

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Speaker 1: For these things and have h and has you know

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Speaker 1: learned commentators have mentioned nobody ever references them. Never, Nobody

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Speaker 1: ever like draws a metaphor or sites a key line

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Speaker 1: or they have.

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Speaker 2: This reminds me of what never. Yeah, as art, they

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Speaker 2: have no mind share. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: And there's Jodren this show with the couple Katie Green

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Speaker 1: and Michael langel Lloyd. There friends, They're like that, why

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Speaker 1: are you lurking in the store? The final thought?

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Speaker 8: People, they have to go.

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Speaker 1: Whoever that is is lurking at the edge of the woods. Uh,

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Speaker 1: here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Oh Geddy. Let's

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Speaker 1: get a final thought from everybody on the crew. To

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Speaker 1: wrap up the show. There is Michael Langelower, technical director, Michael,

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Speaker 1: what's your final thought? I'm looking forward to one more

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Speaker 1: thing today. Katie stopped me this morning and said I

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Speaker 1: got a really good thing for one more thing today

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Speaker 1: and she did want to reveal what it was. So awesome,

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Speaker 1: so too now all right, great? Speaking of Katie Green,

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Speaker 1: are esteemed and use woman? Katie, what's your final thought.

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Speaker 2: My final thought is that I am feeling a new

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Speaker 2: form of anger every time I hear cis woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I know, I know. Don't seed that ground

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Speaker 1: to the radicals. Don't use their invented terminology. Jack of

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Speaker 1: funnel thought. Yeah, I'm going to try to.

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Speaker 2: Pull myself out of reading any of your all comments

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Speaker 2: on anything, and whether you're commenting on us or just

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Speaker 2: stuff in general, the comment section of the world is

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Speaker 2: a disease.

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Speaker 1: And it will only make you less happy. That has

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Speaker 1: been my experience, and give you a distorted idea of

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Speaker 1: what people think. Very much. Yeah, yeah, anyway, to quote

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Speaker 1: a great piece in the Free Press. If we think

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Speaker 1: female means human beings with low circulating osterone, then of

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Speaker 1: course anyone who fits that category should be allowed to

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Speaker 1: play in female sports. But most Americans do not take

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Speaker 1: that view about what a woman is, and never have.

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Speaker 1: I've recognized the difference between men and women and been

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Speaker 1: delighted by it from a very early age. Trust me,

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Speaker 1: for our workday. So many people, thanks so a little time.

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. God bless them. Erica Audio Smofo. It's

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Speaker 1: a hustle. Yeah, it's kind of bogus. It's a wild animal.

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Speaker 1: Joey baby. Yes, we drank beer. I tell you what.

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Speaker 1: You got a tiger and two monkeys. You get a

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Speaker 1: case of beer. You got a party. Experts. Tell me

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Speaker 1: all bloody hell is going to break loose. Okay, then

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Speaker 1: we'll bring this fool in. Your name's not but three

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