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Speaker 1: Network alongside for Ranky Saville. I am Greg sauce Man Frank.
Speaker 1: What's going on Monday? Greggy? You know what we're just
Speaker 1: talking about? It not the greatest NFL week for your boy,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy, not the best. But what happened? What
Speaker 1: happened Week nine? Nearly in the books. We have a
Speaker 1: slobber knocker tonight and the Cowboys and the Titans. Two
Speaker 1: Markey matchups yesterday, Greg, only one of them moved up
Speaker 1: to the hyper. One of them was awesome, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 1: One of them was awesome. Under not correct in that game?
Speaker 1: That was incorrect. What were the bets that you had? Again?
Speaker 1: Over events Friday and took the Bucks? But but the
Speaker 1: Bucks is exactly what I expected them to do. Did
Speaker 1: exactly what everyone expects. They just didn't get all the
Speaker 1: way there. That was the issue. They they Yeah, they
Speaker 1: almost did it though, Tampa Bay, which was incorrect. Did
Speaker 1: you say Washington and to Houston, which was correct? And
Speaker 1: I took the new incentation Man which was correct? And
Speaker 1: you took the Green Bay. He took Green Bay, that
Speaker 1: was correcting. Every you took over in New England that
Speaker 1: was cracked right over Newton over for the game, Greg
Speaker 1: and Alf didn't get there. Oh I'm so sorry. And
Speaker 1: then you took the under in Detroit. Wasn't a great weekend?
Speaker 1: Is that was that right? Wondering the tree? I got
Speaker 1: that right. Yeah, it actually been on that too, So
Speaker 1: that's good. You're one in two, which brings our totals here.
Speaker 1: I am now twelve and twelve. You are thirteen and eleven.
Speaker 1: There's job, frankness, job just barely holding on to one
Speaker 1: point lead. Others read a few names from my home
Speaker 1: league squad. I was I was facing a three and
Speaker 1: five team. I was five and three. I faced the
Speaker 1: one in sixteen, I was six and two in seven team?
Speaker 1: Did you how did you do well? Frank kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: six point eight, Kenyan Drake five point five, Doug marts
Speaker 1: And seven point four, Lean Edelman right spot fourteen point three,
Speaker 1: great good, Mike Evans two point one, Tammy Watkins eight
Speaker 1: point nine, Chris Herndon at eight point to, Isaiah Roll
Speaker 1: six point five, Joe Flacco eight point two. I have
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kicker tonight. That's great Jets defense, the one
Speaker 1: bright spot of the entire Jets yesterday. Well, Elijah McGuire
Speaker 1: as well, you're getting into that later on. Uh for Meggie, Um,
Speaker 1: I started to Vante book and he started touchdown. I
Speaker 1: was like, I told you, and I saw that. I
Speaker 1: was like great. I was like, I gotta win now,
Speaker 1: you know. Jordan Reed at five point four. It was
Speaker 1: wasn't great. It wasn't great. Um, maybe that Marty Cooper
Speaker 1: will be and acted tonight, then I'll have a shot
Speaker 1: to win. Really how much you I'm down five and
Speaker 1: I have Ryan suck up okay against Mary Cooper. So
Speaker 1: here's where everything went wrong, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, the last seventy seventy two yard touchdown, because
Speaker 1: also it will look so it was a fifteen point
Speaker 1: swing if I was up ten with Ryan stuck up
Speaker 1: against Marty Cooper. I feel I feel good, you know, um,
Speaker 1: but I don't. So then I went into Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 1: um having Davante Adams against Aaron Jones, Jimmy Graham and
Speaker 1: m V S and all of them did quite well. Nice, No,
Speaker 1: not not frank they quite opposite of nice. That was
Speaker 1: a team that literally is one in seven on a
Speaker 1: six game losing streaks. When I had to have and
Speaker 1: I didn't, go, Hey, that's the that's a joy of
Speaker 1: fantasy football, right, anybody could beat anybody. Not joyful, Sorry,
Speaker 1: but not a great weekend for the BFF. How was
Speaker 1: the rest of your week? But it but it was
Speaker 1: a good week of the BFF because we won. We didn't.
Speaker 1: We're up twelve and he has gallop. I feel I
Speaker 1: feel good about that. I mean, I feel really good
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, we we have greater than a fifty
Speaker 1: chance to win. But it's not like in the bag.
Speaker 1: I took it scored a touchdown, we lose. Oh he
Speaker 1: doesn't know, we don't. He's only cast ten your touchdown,
Speaker 1: easy win. Boom. I'm not as confident. I'm just you
Speaker 1: really don't think we're gonna You are pessimistic, man, I
Speaker 1: feel great about tonight. No, well, look you got you
Speaker 1: don't want to be too optimistic. You would be too
Speaker 1: confident and then he shut yourself, set yourself up for disaster. Greg.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the way I live my life.
Speaker 1: Can't be too optimistic about stuff and then and then
Speaker 1: it tears you down. Um, we buy any means, didn't
Speaker 1: win you. I'm optimistic about this one. Man, really optimistic.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go, BFF, let's do it now. Now
Speaker 1: is the time. If not now, then when Gregg probably
Speaker 1: never Michael Thomas, he was awesome yesterday the Saints Rams game.
Speaker 1: That game was awesome yesterday. Back and forth, Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: versus Sean Payton, um as Sean paytonson. After the game,
Speaker 1: we heard that they were gonna match up Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: against Michael Thomas. We like their chances. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: you saw him the touchdown, right, they kept replaying this
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters wasn't even set. What are you doing, dude,
Speaker 1: You're guarding Michael Thomas, and Marcus Peters is like looking around,
Speaker 1: he's like talking to other people, like trying to get set.
Speaker 1: And once Michael Thomas saw that, he was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna blow past this guy, throw me a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Look at while it burned you, and it certainly burned
Speaker 1: a lot of people for Fantasy, I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: we always have to talk about the other side of that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it helped a lot of people propelled
Speaker 1: them into you know, DFS winnings, uh, into Regulatar season
Speaker 1: matchup wins as well. So, uh, it was a fun game.
Speaker 1: I I enjoyed the fact that the Rams bounced back.
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of knew that would happen
Speaker 1: because heading into half time, you know, you're watching that
Speaker 1: game and you're thinking, oh, here we go. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just supposed to be a Marquee matchup. We're
Speaker 1: getting a blow out here. But then the Rams come
Speaker 1: out of the half, um they're hot, and you know
Speaker 1: this is actually one of the first, uh you know,
Speaker 1: not incredibly dominant games from time Gurley, so so that
Speaker 1: was interesting, but um, all the Rams wide receivers showed up.
Speaker 1: Robert Woods didn't score a touchdown, but again consistently seventy
Speaker 1: yards every Severe game. Cooper Cup had to touchdown late
Speaker 1: forty one yard or um. Maybe not still, but I
Speaker 1: mean he did enough. He gave you a touchdown. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks the revenge game against the Saints did what
Speaker 1: he was supposed to. I think the storyline from this game, obviously,
Speaker 1: outside of Michael Thomas doing what he did two eleven
Speaker 1: yards absolutely ridiculous game. Mark Ingram we got, I mean
Speaker 1: we got to talk about marketing. We do because market sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had, he had ten touches in his game. Looked
Speaker 1: like he was going to be banished after he bumbled back,
Speaker 1: came back in. But the most frustrating part about mark
Speaker 1: Ingram is that we waited all a year and we
Speaker 1: thought that he would be the coal line back. Avan
Speaker 1: Kamara scores two goal line touchdowns. Greg mark Ingram certainly
Speaker 1: trending down right now for fantasy purposes. In an offense
Speaker 1: that you know has been great. The Saints are scoring
Speaker 1: point I mean in a game they scored forty five points.
Speaker 1: Mark Ingram has thirty three rushing yards and three receiving yards,
Speaker 1: thirty six total yards and a fumble loss in a
Speaker 1: game where they scored forty five points. It was clear
Speaker 1: or that that week when he came back, it was
Speaker 1: to give the Alvin Camara the rest, right, Like, let's
Speaker 1: give him this week, we have by next week and
Speaker 1: then we go full throw them back to Alvin Camara.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they've done. The goal line carries
Speaker 1: that mark Ingram was actually in on the play before,
Speaker 1: and they took him out, brought Kamara in and they
Speaker 1: gave him that goal line carry. It's clear Camara is
Speaker 1: their best back. We knew this already and he was
Speaker 1: just outstanding yesterday. Truly truly was mark Ingram not a threat?
Speaker 1: Who would you rather own right now, Frankie, mark Ingram
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is death an option. No, uh, I'll still
Speaker 1: take Kenyan Drake just because what we saw in those
Speaker 1: final games, Like, I'm just gonna continue to hold onto that.
Speaker 1: Like if at any point Adam Gates realizes how talented
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is, then you could potentially have a RB
Speaker 1: one on your hands, But that likely isn't going to happen,
Speaker 1: but it's more likely to happen than mark ingram one.
Speaker 1: You know, like the only way that that's going to
Speaker 1: happen is if Alvin Kamar gets hurt. So you're depending
Speaker 1: on injury there. At least with Kenyan Drake, we've seen
Speaker 1: that if he gets a full workload, which is still
Speaker 1: relatively possible. I you know, I posted a story yesterday
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It made no sense to me. Adam Gaze. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, basically, he didn't give Kenyan Drake a touch
Speaker 1: in the second half. Grade had one target and in
Speaker 1: the second half, and you know, for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: don't have a reasonable explanation. I watched this entire game
Speaker 1: ye Dolphins. It was absolutely disgusting. The guy didn't get
Speaker 1: his first carry until the second quarter. I know that
Speaker 1: Frank Gore was like chasing the Barry Sanders scrimmage yards
Speaker 1: record because that's all they were talking about throughout the game.
Speaker 1: So maybe that was Adam Gates's reasoning, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get Frank or twenty carries, damn carries.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. A story that I posted said,
Speaker 1: you know, Drake knows that there were plays drawn up
Speaker 1: for him It's just that every time we drew up
Speaker 1: a play for him, Todd Bowls and the Jets knew
Speaker 1: that when he was on the field that they were
Speaker 1: sending extra help to try and stop Kenyan Drake. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, whether that's true or not, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls made it, uh, you know, a defensive game
Speaker 1: plan that whenever Kenyan Drake was on the field, they
Speaker 1: were gonna, you know, make sure that there's someone guarding
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield as a receiver or you know,
Speaker 1: stack the box. And you know, they really were saying,
Speaker 1: all right, let's let anybody else on the Dolphins offense
Speaker 1: beat us behind besides Kenyan Drake. Maybe that's a chance,
Speaker 1: but you still give the guy a shot. Man. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, dude, why twenty carries for Frank Gore? What
Speaker 1: what did Dan Drake have? Three now in the red zone?
Speaker 1: In the red zone, there way a couple of times
Speaker 1: to Kennyan Drake. The Jets, as you mentioned, sniffed out immediately.
Speaker 1: And it's frustrating because the Jets defense is actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Like they talking about the lack of talent on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, and then deveni't have the ball,
Speaker 1: they're good. They allowed six points in this game because
Speaker 1: seven of them score seven of thirteen Scordin at pick
Speaker 1: six six actually because the extra point is to the defense.
Speaker 1: Six points last by the by the Jets defense. Yesterday
Speaker 1: they were phenomenal. But I mean this the Jets franchise again,
Speaker 1: Like the only hope I have for them is seeing
Speaker 1: what happened with Jared Goff and his rookie year and
Speaker 1: Trebinsky in his rookie year and seeing a creative offensive
Speaker 1: mind come in and you know, turn those young players
Speaker 1: around before you know, they can have their confidence shatter,
Speaker 1: before they start developing bad habits. Because Sam Donald right now,
Speaker 1: look he was he he was to blame yesterday partially,
Speaker 1: but the guy has nothing to work with. If you're
Speaker 1: watching the game, I mean the center. Every single snap
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald's taking the shotgun is he's catching it
Speaker 1: up here, he's catching it down low. On the one
Speaker 1: that he threw the pick six, he had to catch
Speaker 1: up with one hand and reel it in like it's
Speaker 1: not his fault. The offensive line is garbage. He's getting
Speaker 1: absolutely no help. There's no playmakers, there's no run game,
Speaker 1: vanilla play calling. Sam Donald. I mean he's he's in Uh.
Speaker 1: There there's possibility here that they they're starting to ruin
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and it's it's pretty tough to watch. But
Speaker 1: the Jets offense overall, I mean, you just you can't
Speaker 1: start anybody on this offense right now. Elijah McGuire might
Speaker 1: creep into the flex discussion. He played more snaps and
Speaker 1: Correll yesterday was a little bit more explosive. Seven carries
Speaker 1: for thirty yards four point three yards per carry. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know what, they lined them up out wide
Speaker 1: a few times, which I thought was interesting because the
Speaker 1: team is void of offensive weapons, so they were using
Speaker 1: McGuire at a wide receiver at times, putting him out wide,
Speaker 1: and he called a quick slant, took it for twenty yards.
Speaker 1: You look good. I think. You know, if he starts
Speaker 1: to get anywhere from ten to fifteen touches consistently, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in that flex discussion. If you could just
Speaker 1: overtake Crow well, I mean you might have an RB
Speaker 1: two on your hand. What is the game total on
Speaker 1: Sunday of the Jets and the Bills? I just looked
Speaker 1: it up. His thirty six and a half was tweeting
Speaker 1: with flurial about it last night. I said, my guess
Speaker 1: is thirty seven points seven with me the total? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was good. Um, thirty six and a half's probably
Speaker 1: talking about good football teams, not the Jetlphins. The You know,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are the biggest enigma in the NFL. They're
Speaker 1: a wild card contender right now. They're five and four.
Speaker 1: They're not a good football team. Frank Gore, Baby, what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. They're not a good football team. And
Speaker 1: they're five and four and they still have to play
Speaker 1: the Bills twice, so they might get two more easy
Speaker 1: wins there too. The Dolphins are gonna like barely make
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, and they're just they're not a
Speaker 1: good team. They beat up on bad teams so far.
Speaker 1: They beat the Jets twice, they beat the Raiders. They're
Speaker 1: not a good football team. It's crazy that they're They're
Speaker 1: over also not a good football team. They teach right, Lions,
Speaker 1: they're bad. Huh. You know what we want to talk
Speaker 1: about enigmas. The Dolphins are the enigma of the a
Speaker 1: f C. The Lions. Like the Lions have a win
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and the Packers this year and then
Speaker 1: they do what they did yesterday. The offensive line basically
Speaker 1: just didn't show up in Minnesota. I don't know they
Speaker 1: didn't take the flight there. I mean, were they out
Speaker 1: drinking the night before. I don't know what happened. But
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford sect ten times yesterday and couldn't get the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not his There were some of those
Speaker 1: sacks were like, he looked like rookie sacks, like you
Speaker 1: need to be able to feel the pressure and know
Speaker 1: that you're holding onto the ball too long. A few
Speaker 1: of those were definitely on Stafford, but the offensive line
Speaker 1: just didn't show up. And you know, it's tough sledding
Speaker 1: for carry on Johnson moving forward to who you know
Speaker 1: saw the majority of the running back carries here. There
Speaker 1: were seventeen running back carries. He had twelve of them,
Speaker 1: but he only went for three point one yards for carry.
Speaker 1: He has a very tough schedule coming up, faces the
Speaker 1: Bears twice in his next three games. Marvin Jones was
Speaker 1: okay in this game, not what we expected. Eight targets,
Speaker 1: six or sixty six, Okay, that's fine. I think we
Speaker 1: expected more. Kenny Golladay, right, I mean, only four targets
Speaker 1: in a game where you know, we thought with golden
Speaker 1: take on, Kenny Gollady would step up. I had him
Speaker 1: in my DFS lineup. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: did as well. Uh it didn't work out. Lions. Lions
Speaker 1: look like a mess of a team right now, Greg,
Speaker 1: for both NFL and fantasy purposes. Yeah, they're they're just
Speaker 1: complete mass carry on Johnson to be a disaster. Yesterday
Speaker 1: with the a Ridic returning as something we kind of
Speaker 1: saw coming from the Ridic. I mean, if you if
Speaker 1: you just want to talk about PPR, he might have
Speaker 1: been dropped because to he said he missed because of injury.
Speaker 1: He is the guy who's going to fill that golden
Speaker 1: tape void and I brought that up as a possibility
Speaker 1: to speak as well. I don't think we spent money
Speaker 1: on the other schmucks. I mean, you didn't spend much,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really hurt. But yeah, theiol Ridic tied
Speaker 1: for the most targets on the team yesterday in his
Speaker 1: first game back. Eight targets, seven receptions, thirty six yards.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna give you a ton of yards, might
Speaker 1: not score touchdowns, but just talking about you know, like
Speaker 1: that Jalen Richard range of flex PPR running backs stock
Speaker 1: is now in that. Again, I agree with that, but
Speaker 1: do you want to remind you that the offensive line
Speaker 1: so so terrible yesterday. If Detroit allowing all those sacks
Speaker 1: that he had very very little time to look about
Speaker 1: to Staffords, it was dump dump dump dump. Duvets would
Speaker 1: change though, you know he is a free, good divisive line. No,
Speaker 1: they do. They definitely do that have a good pass rush.
Speaker 1: And again I thought the Lions offensive line was going
Speaker 1: to be great coming into because you're all over because
Speaker 1: on paper, they invested in the draft. They you know,
Speaker 1: they put money into their offensive line. And there were
Speaker 1: games this year when we saw harry On Johnson running
Speaker 1: well and we dire want with the multiple touchdowns rushing
Speaker 1: in games where the offensive line looked pretty good. So
Speaker 1: maybe there will be games where they bounce back. But
Speaker 1: again talking about games with the Bears coming up, I
Speaker 1: mean that's another team of a great defensive line, a
Speaker 1: great gass rush. We could see more of these games
Speaker 1: where Stafford just needs to get rid of the ball fast,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be theoretic who benefits? All right, So
Speaker 1: there you go, um on the other side for Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Cayli Rudolph almost fell on the touchdowns. That was cool,
Speaker 1: but not so much. What were you take away from
Speaker 1: this was what Frank very frustrated about on Friday. Was
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook going to be active and what he was
Speaker 1: going to do and what he was gonna take away
Speaker 1: from Latavious Murray. They had the same amount of carries
Speaker 1: ten each. Obviously, Dalvin Cook had the seventy yard run
Speaker 1: which looked great. Um the rest of his nine carries
Speaker 1: went for nineteen yards, right, So what did you make
Speaker 1: out of that? I thought it was It's a positive
Speaker 1: for Dalvin Cook definitely, the fact that he's able to
Speaker 1: break a seventy yard run, hit top speed and not
Speaker 1: reinjure his hamstring on the play. I felt very be
Speaker 1: positive about that. In actually played more snaps than Latavius
Speaker 1: Murray in his first game back. Two before the game
Speaker 1: they said ten to twenty snaps. He actually almost got
Speaker 1: up to thirty. So if you own Lettavius Murray, I'm
Speaker 1: worried about that. I'm very excited about Dalvin Cook. He
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Network Frank Staffle and Greg Susman And as
Speaker 1: much as we learned yesterday during Week nine in the
Speaker 1: NFL season, the narrative just keeps changing. The story keeps changing,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how I felt in Washington yesterday,
Speaker 1: where we thought the Washington Redskins were a team with
Speaker 1: a very very good defense with we're a team that
Speaker 1: was going to rely on the running game to be
Speaker 1: successful and at home they got completely walloped by the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons yesterday thirty eight of fourteen, with Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: having nine carries for seventeen yards. Their leading receiver was
Speaker 1: Super Harris at ten receptions for a hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: four yards. Um, what's going on with the Washington football team, Frank,
Speaker 1: that's when you think you know, you don't know. Man,
Speaker 1: Look Washington, they were coming into this game. They've They've
Speaker 1: played great defense, Alex Smith has done just enough, He's
Speaker 1: game managed just enough. Adrian Peterson seems like he found
Speaker 1: the fountain of youth and everything kind of crumbled in
Speaker 1: this game. I would say the one worry and I've
Speaker 1: I heard some people talking about this last week, whether
Speaker 1: it was on Games on Decision Decisions with Gabe trying
Speaker 1: to handicap this game. They said, look, if the Falcons
Speaker 1: get up, does Washington have enough offensive firepower to fight back?
Speaker 1: And the answer was clearly no. And but honestly, the
Speaker 1: defense didn't show up either. I mean, to allow thirty
Speaker 1: eight points on your home field, I understand it's the Falcons.
Speaker 1: It is a really good defense. And Matt Ryan, you
Speaker 1: can argue the way he's playing this year better than
Speaker 1: its MVP year, which is crazy to say. If you
Speaker 1: go down and look at his game lock the guy
Speaker 1: only has like three interceptions on the season. He's been phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's throwing over three yards multiple touchdowns
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis right now, and I'll I will
Speaker 1: admit I thought that one season for Matt Ryan, and
Speaker 1: I've openly said this was an anomaly, like his MVP
Speaker 1: season was an anomally. You look at everything else, It's
Speaker 1: all right, He's between twenty and twenty five touchdowns, he
Speaker 1: throws double digit interceptions like not a great fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 1: This year is completely different. He's been asked to take
Speaker 1: on more of the offensive workload because the defense is
Speaker 1: extremely injured. Yesterday they were just pouring it on. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of it was like screen passes that
Speaker 1: worked out well for him. But when you have a
Speaker 1: lets like the Falcons do stuff like that is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Because Julio Jones, you throw him a screen pass behind
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Finally, we should be throwing a
Speaker 1: party right now. Julio Jones, of course, his first touchdown
Speaker 1: of the season in Week eight of the NFL Okay.
Speaker 1: This was Week nine. Hard to keep up with what
Speaker 1: week it is anymore, but Julio Jones Week nine. Kevin
Speaker 1: Coleman two receiving touchdowns, Calvin Ridley another perceiving touchdown. A
Speaker 1: lot of them were just like you know, close to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and his awesome athletic offensive playmakers
Speaker 1: made plays after it. So, uh, shout out to the
Speaker 1: Falcons getting it done here. But I would say the
Speaker 1: majority of people who were trying to read this Washington game,
Speaker 1: we're dead wrong, and they will admit that as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean very obviously dead wrong. Dude. Um, I thought
Speaker 1: that Gant. I want to start with Washington, but you
Speaker 1: kind of go at Glanta Julio Jones. That's true, right,
Speaker 1: like you asked me about Washing that I end up
Speaker 1: talking about it line. I'm sorry, it's it's it's fine man,
Speaker 1: Like Julio Jones is awesome yesterday and he continued to
Speaker 1: do what he did and he finally got in the
Speaker 1: end zone. Um, and you you saw it everyone. This
Speaker 1: is the big narrative today. How happy the team was
Speaker 1: for him and he's such a leader and that's great.
Speaker 1: That that that's fantastic. Um. They trying to get Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley involved early didn't really work. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of drops, um, but came back with a big, foody
Speaker 1: yard touchdown where he weaved in his way, used that
Speaker 1: speed and breakaway speed. That worked out well. Targeted the
Speaker 1: second most to Julio yesterday at nine times. So if
Speaker 1: you're a Calvin Ridley owner, you're obviously pumped about that.
Speaker 1: I've also seen a lot today narrative wise, that Mohammed
Speaker 1: Sannew really taking back seat. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: I had to look at the snap count, which I
Speaker 1: haven't seen yet, but SNeW was seemingly out there every play.
Speaker 1: He's their best run blocking wide receiver, that's for sure, um,
Speaker 1: but his role is much closer to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage than Calvin Ridley's. For fantasy purposes, you're gonna I'd
Speaker 1: rather have Ridley than Sanu, but I wouldn't just drop sanwet.
Speaker 1: I still think with by Weeks still rolling, I have
Speaker 1: no problem owning and potentially starting Mohammed Sanu. When it
Speaker 1: comes to the running game, Tevin Coldoan Edo Smith split
Speaker 1: it pretty evenly. Both had a lot of success on
Speaker 1: the ground. Coleman average six point eight yards per carry
Speaker 1: while Edo Smith average six yards to carry. But Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman got it done in the passing game. Frank for
Speaker 1: the first time this year with five catches sixty eight
Speaker 1: yards and those two TVs. Yeah, that's where he finally emerged, right,
Speaker 1: and we've kind of this is something we've talked about
Speaker 1: going back to last year, you know, the usage of
Speaker 1: the running backs in the past game, and see Sarkisian.
Speaker 1: You know, wasn't using Devontae Freeman last year, wasn't using
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman all that much. So maybe there's something that
Speaker 1: they figured out during the by. I really like when
Speaker 1: teams come out of the by and kind of click
Speaker 1: on all cylinders because that tells you, all right, maybe
Speaker 1: they figured something out during that off week, and now
Speaker 1: they're going to you know, continue to do these things
Speaker 1: moving forward. So I really really liked the past game
Speaker 1: usage out of Tevin Coleman. In this game, you know,
Speaker 1: targeted seven times. Uh, that was the season high. Five
Speaker 1: reception season high, sixty eight receiving yards season high. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the two touchdowns. Everything in the past game for Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman was a season high. Yesterday, on the Washington side
Speaker 1: of things, Adrian Peterson huge letdown. I know that we've
Speaker 1: talked about his consistency, we did last week about how
Speaker 1: often he's been up over ninety rushing yard. It's games
Speaker 1: like this where they fall behind, where the game script
Speaker 1: is just going to cripple Adrian Peterson's fantasy value for
Speaker 1: that game. Uh, and we saw Capri Bibbs of all people.
Speaker 1: So volts are the red zone touched on there. If
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson gives you that, you feel a little bit better, definitely,
Speaker 1: But he still was not good in this game. The
Speaker 1: Washington Washington just didn't show up Mo Harris though, I
Speaker 1: will say this soup, Well, sorry, what super Harris is that?
Speaker 1: His name is Maurice, but nicknames soup? Why is his
Speaker 1: nickname soup? Just enjoy a good soup, Greg, Well, it's
Speaker 1: your favorite kind of shop. Uh. You know I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan lately of cream of tomato, even tomato very
Speaker 1: cream of potato as well. This isn't soup. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I forget everything. Greg just talked about twelve
Speaker 1: targets for Mo Harris in this game, ten receptions a
Speaker 1: hundred four yards do I got confused? Now played the
Speaker 1: majority of the snaps out of the slot from oh
Speaker 1: Harris in this game, and to continue to say we
Speaker 1: like slot receivers and uh, there were a few plays
Speaker 1: where Alex Smith just trusted. You can see the trust
Speaker 1: between him and Harris here next week they played Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure tomorrow and we talked about the waiver
Speaker 1: wire show. Moe Harris is uh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: one of those names that that we're we're talking frequently.
Speaker 1: Super Harris. Is Marcus Harris, not Maurice Harris. That's where
Speaker 1: the confusion. Marcus Harris. What the hell is Marcus Harris
Speaker 1: New Giants. So anyway, so Maurice Harris was really good yesterday.
Speaker 1: Without Jamison Crowder in the lineup, he obviously stuffed up
Speaker 1: in the slot. Asked, Frankie mentioned the ape touchedown of
Speaker 1: Vulture by pre Bibs and the only reason it was
Speaker 1: Vultures was because they were in a hurry of and
Speaker 1: they were going quickly. Pre Bibs was on the field,
Speaker 1: they had him the ball and he went into the
Speaker 1: end zone there. So obviously nothing to worry about when
Speaker 1: it comes to Adrian Peterson in in the passing game,
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis stepped up five or sixty two, and almost
Speaker 1: all of that came with Jordan Reid hurt. Now, he
Speaker 1: came in eat of this game with a bit of
Speaker 1: a neck injury. He took a hard fall and a
Speaker 1: heart tackle on an incomplete pass early in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I watched the lot and I
Speaker 1: owned Jordan read. I didn't see him again, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was true or just I missed it,
Speaker 1: But its all Vernon Davis. And there's a clear connection
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith and Vernon Davis going back to the
Speaker 1: San Francisco days that he just doesn't have with Jordi Reid.
Speaker 1: I know we were used to join Reid being peppered
Speaker 1: with targets. It doesn't work. Man playing Tampa Bay where
Speaker 1: into the box in just one moment, playing Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: next week, he wants the stiding starting tight end for
Speaker 1: this team. I'm you know, honestly, as the Jordan Reid owner,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's Vernie Davis. I really am. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid dealing with neck and back injuries after the
Speaker 1: game too, so I spoke about that. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously the production from Vernon Davis in this game. And look,
Speaker 1: they played Tampa Bay next week. We just saw what
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen did against the Tampa Bay Bucks. We see
Speaker 1: what every offense does against the Tampa Bay Bucks defense.
Speaker 1: So yes, it would it would help fantasy owners if
Speaker 1: instead of you know, two tight ends being used, it
Speaker 1: would be just one guy. So maybe we could depend
Speaker 1: on Vernon Davis. If Jordan is out for a safe
Speaker 1: you know, six to eight targets and any time you
Speaker 1: get that out of the tight end, you're going to
Speaker 1: be close or borderline tight end one. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens between these two. But if Jordan Reed is foresomiss,
Speaker 1: anytime Vernon Davis against Tampa Bay looks like a phenomenal play.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Tampa Bay Bucks, they felt yesterday twenty eight
Speaker 1: in Carolina, and as I said, we were going over
Speaker 1: our picks for the week, I had this game right,
Speaker 1: and they would get all the way down and come
Speaker 1: all the way back, and they were down just seven
Speaker 1: points late in the third cot field goal or something
Speaker 1: like they cover you there exactly with the ball. I
Speaker 1: thought at one point it didn't work out, unfortunately, But
Speaker 1: it really was the game that a lot of us predicted.
Speaker 1: Ryan fits Patrick had four touchdowns, two disgustingly terrible interceptions.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton had two touchdowns. From the six secutive week
Speaker 1: passing um, this game really went according to the script.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was fantastic with those two touchdowns on the
Speaker 1: ground over a hundred and fifty total yards, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen's stepped up again, a lot of what we
Speaker 1: expected on both sides other than the leading wide receiver
Speaker 1: in Apple Bay, Frank, Yeah, and that was Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: In terms of targets, he was the guy he saw
Speaker 1: the most targeted in this game. Ten targets, incredibly, incredibly inefficient.
Speaker 1: Admittedly I didn't watch this entire game. I just you know,
Speaker 1: I saw the first interception that fits Magic through. He
Speaker 1: was targeting Mike Evans on that play, but just completely
Speaker 1: overthrew him. I don't think that was the part of
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, but yeah, just not on the same page here,
Speaker 1: Which is kind of odd because all the other games
Speaker 1: this year, some thinking like fits Magic and Mike Evans
Speaker 1: actually had a pretty good connection. So ten targets only
Speaker 1: converted one of those for sixteen yards. Adam Humphreys was
Speaker 1: the guy here targeted eight times, eight receptions, eighty two yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Just when you think you have the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Bucks offense figured out, Greg, Really, the one constant,
Speaker 1: the one that we could depend on right now is O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard because for the wide receivers. Yeah, we want to
Speaker 1: trust Mike Evans. We want Chris Godwin to be a thing.
Speaker 1: We want Sean Jackson to be that boom wide receiver,
Speaker 1: although we know he's boom or bust um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean inconsistency. Had a Godwin can tinues to Sean
Speaker 1: Jackson two for thirty two. Adam Humphreys and O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard the main two culprits here in the past game
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Bucks. And O. J. Howard, a
Speaker 1: guy that we spoke about on Friday. I had him
Speaker 1: in all my DFS lineups. The Panthers were allowing the
Speaker 1: most Fantasy points at tight ends. It was it was
Speaker 1: just a matchup made in Heaven. Yeah, And that was
Speaker 1: one of the similarities you and I had on OURBFF
Speaker 1: fan lot up was having O. J. Howard in there. Um,
Speaker 1: we each of OJ Howard, each of the Chicago Bears defense.
Speaker 1: So you have MDS also right now, I did not
Speaker 1: have m V had Kenny Golladay, who let me it
Speaker 1: was Golliday that we each had Ston. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: paid up for Kareem Hunt and then I worked out
Speaker 1: I thought would have a big game. Obviously, Adam Feeland
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown but really didn't live up to the
Speaker 1: value I expect him too. I knew we had some
Speaker 1: one receivers the same I had feeling and Golliday. Um,
Speaker 1: my third wide receiver was mbs is pretty good, probably
Speaker 1: fading the Saints Rams game. Probably not had a great idea, Greg,
Speaker 1: probably not our bad um that I have, Robert Woods.
Speaker 1: I didn't because I just told not a great idea,
Speaker 1: not a great idea at all. Um. In Denver, Corton Sutton,
Speaker 1: you just mentioned Denver. In Houston, Houston wins basically thanks
Speaker 1: to Vance Joseph in the offense in Denver settling really
Speaker 1: for a fifty one yard field with Brandon mcmaddus miss
Speaker 1: and of course coming off the field at the end
Speaker 1: of the game. Didn't see, but I heard about it.
Speaker 1: I heard Bill Bryant was like talking, I read the
Speaker 1: lifts repeatedly. Make sure I haven't right what You're an idiot.
Speaker 1: Even better, it was like it was like, thank you Vans,
Speaker 1: you dumb f It was. I hope they showed Bill
Speaker 1: and all the Texans backers in that game. We're saying
Speaker 1: the same music. A lot of people like the texasterday.
Speaker 1: I actually ended up betting on the Texas yesterday, one
Speaker 1: of one of my better bets of the day. I'll
Speaker 1: just end it there, one of the only in bets
Speaker 1: of the day. But for Denver, Um Courtland Sutton didn't
Speaker 1: really get and all as much as we would have
Speaker 1: hoped necessarily in this one. But there was one player
Speaker 1: that really did step up for Denver with Damarius Thomas out,
Speaker 1: and that was Jeff Hireman hand receptions either yards on
Speaker 1: eleven targets well. Him and Immanuel Sanders led this team
Speaker 1: in targets. Hireman with eleven, Sanders with nine, Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: had just five. Philip Lindsay on the ground seventeen for sixty.
Speaker 1: Um Denver's offens well not exactly enjoyable in any way.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of clear Jeff Hireman someone you
Speaker 1: probably want to pick up if he's out there, especially
Speaker 1: following the trade of Damarius Thomas. You wanted to see
Speaker 1: who stepped up here. We all thought it would be
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, and I still think better days are coming
Speaker 1: for Courtland Sutton, and he's you know, I'm very obviously
Speaker 1: the starting wide receiver two on this team now alongside
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. So I think better days are going to come.
Speaker 1: But it's it's clear that without Damarius Thomas, they need
Speaker 1: somebody for those shorter intermediate routes, and Jeff Hireman was
Speaker 1: the biggest benefactor of those seeing eleven targets. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna buy all the in I'm not gonna say that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm blowing a bunch of fab on him.
Speaker 1: But anytime we see a performance like this out of
Speaker 1: a tight end, it has to at least catch your eye.
Speaker 1: The one problem is the Broncos are on buy next week.
Speaker 1: So if you add Hireman, you gotta you gotta stash
Speaker 1: him and Hope, which is very hard to do if
Speaker 1: you're like stashing two tight ends because obviously you can't
Speaker 1: use him last week. Philip Lindsay, Uh, it just continues
Speaker 1: to get the full workload as long as um, as
Speaker 1: long as Royce Freeman is out. This was the first
Speaker 1: game actually this year, Greg he was held under four
Speaker 1: point five yards for carrying a single game. Who would
Speaker 1: you rather have going forward, Philip Lindsay or carry on Johnson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's it could potentially be a messy situation
Speaker 1: once Royce Freeman is back in the mix here. But
Speaker 1: I'll take Philip Lindsay. He's been a little bit more explosive.
Speaker 1: I like the talent of carry on a lot, but
Speaker 1: I just really don't like the matchups coming up here. Okay,
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions, that was good one yeah, and
Speaker 1: again like if Royce Freeman comes back in the mixed end,
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay's not getting the seventeen carries he had this
Speaker 1: week the eighteen carries he had last week. He's probably
Speaker 1: more so in that thirteen four seen range while still
Speaker 1: getting his you know, three four targets a game. But
Speaker 1: I just I like the explosiveness that we've seen that
Speaker 1: of Lindsay. Um, And I don't know what the schedule is,
Speaker 1: but I have to assume it's better than what the
Speaker 1: Detroit lines have. Let's see out of the bible of
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Steelers not a great matchup. Bengal is a
Speaker 1: good matchup, Forty is a pretty good matchup. Brown is
Speaker 1: a good match up Raiders. Yeah. So a better schedule
Speaker 1: going forward for the Broncos. Ye, all right, there you go. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to hit like Lamar Miller Houston leave back
Speaker 1: to Houston, leave about to Houston. I almost forgot that.
Speaker 1: He almost forgot, almost forgot. You have something to report
Speaker 1: on Lamar Miller. Ger you actually so? I was watching
Speaker 1: this game and it was like, let me see who's
Speaker 1: starting for Houston since Mary's Thomas? And you know who
Speaker 1: in the backfield to start the game? Who was that?
Speaker 1: It was not Lamar Miller. It was Alfred Blue. Why
Speaker 1: do you think they would do that? Because he's better
Speaker 1: than Lamar Miller? Do you know why that? You know why?
Speaker 1: I think I have a guess, because Lamar Miller sucks.
Speaker 1: We've been trying to tell you this, sell him, sell him,
Speaker 1: sell him? And what did you do? You didn't? And
Speaker 1: what happens now? You can't why? Because Lamar Miller sucks?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be so mean? Are you gonna be
Speaker 1: so hard on Lamar Miller? Gelve carries twenty one yards
Speaker 1: on the day for Lamar Miller, Alfred Blue, um foreman
Speaker 1: you heard was a return during the bye week? Not
Speaker 1: so much. Maybe next week he'll start practicing. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller not the answer here, not the answer anywhere,
Speaker 1: not ever the answer. Yeah, very interesting usage between him
Speaker 1: and Alfred Blue. I wonder if Lamar Miller was banged
Speaker 1: up dealing with some kind of injury coming into this one.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing anything like that regarding Lamar Miller,
Speaker 1: but I don't see any other reason why they would
Speaker 1: start Alfred Blue and why he would get more carries
Speaker 1: than Lamar Miller. Miller was running well too, so very
Speaker 1: interesting usage there of the running backs in Houston. I
Speaker 1: would still try and sell if you can do that.
Speaker 1: Based on the two games that he had, I honestly
Speaker 1: thought that this was I thought he was in prime
Speaker 1: position here to have another good game. I was telling
Speaker 1: people wait till after the Roncos game because I thought
Speaker 1: he could have another solid performance and then sell him
Speaker 1: after that one. But now it looks like that window
Speaker 1: might have closed. Coming up, they have Washington and Tennessee,
Speaker 1: both teams that have been pretty good against the run.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it looks like we're back to Lamar
Speaker 1: Miller the flex option rather than the RB two. Deansre
Speaker 1: Hawkins dominated yesterday ten for one of five on those
Speaker 1: toilet stargets to Marius Thomas had three chargers, three receptions.
Speaker 1: I felt like that was all in the first drive
Speaker 1: and there's nothing else after that really weird. I know
Speaker 1: that they whenever they cut to this game, there were
Speaker 1: a few times where like he didn't know what the
Speaker 1: play was. Like I saw specifically one player has to
Speaker 1: call a time out and he just he had no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. This is what we talked. We
Speaker 1: talked about this last week to Greg on our Trade
Speaker 1: Deadline special when we were recapping the games. I said
Speaker 1: that it's not like baseball or basketball, where you know,
Speaker 1: you get traded to a team and you just play
Speaker 1: your game. Like the in the NFL, you have to
Speaker 1: learn the play calls, you have to learn where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be on the field. So it's going to
Speaker 1: take some time for da Marius. I still think he's
Speaker 1: in that high end wide receiver three range moving forward.
Speaker 1: The three targets were not great, but I'd have to
Speaker 1: imagine that the more he learns the offense, the more
Speaker 1: he gets acclimated, he'll see more targets. But remember Kiki
Speaker 1: Qt did not play in this game either. I think
Speaker 1: that's worth noting. When DeAndre Hopkins, he's twelve targets of
Speaker 1: the twenty four past attempts, Greg, he saw a fifty
Speaker 1: percent targets share in this game, which is just absolutely
Speaker 1: massive in the first game without will Fuller since the injury,
Speaker 1: so I think we're gonna continue to see a massive,
Speaker 1: massive target chair or d hop but Kiki qt is
Speaker 1: going to be back at some hopefully after the by
Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. Just one catch for seven yeards. What's touchdown?
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Speaker 1: I said all week I was going to start Um
Speaker 1: Broadway Baker and they did pretty good. Twenty Fantasy points
Speaker 1: in League two ninety seven, passing yrds to Tosh instead
Speaker 1: of one interception, But overall was was pretty good Browns
Speaker 1: in general, Nick Chow, a lot of people expected big games,
Speaker 1: but Shub didn't let them down. Twenties who carries eighty
Speaker 1: five yards and a touchdown and he was very, very good.
Speaker 1: But the story was a different running back. Running back
Speaker 1: in quotations, that was Duke Johnson. Nine receptions for seventy
Speaker 1: eight yards and two touchdowns on nine targets. Oh, that
Speaker 1: was the other wide receiver I used for Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: my fan duel the Juice had six catches for fifty
Speaker 1: yards and seven targets. New offensive, pretty kitchens in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: What did we learned? Yeah, we learned. We learned that
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson should have been used more while Todd Haley
Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackson was was there. I mean, Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: pretty much giving those two, uh the double birds and
Speaker 1: getting back on the radar of fantasy owners here. I
Speaker 1: love the efficiency to nine targets, caught all nine of them,
Speaker 1: so there's already kind of a natural connection there between
Speaker 1: him and Baker. So I mean, it just raises more
Speaker 1: questions why wasn't Duke Johnson being used more by the
Speaker 1: previous coaching regime, And I think that's that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason why they're not there anymore. I will say this,
Speaker 1: Greg I looked into his ownership percentage and starting percentage
Speaker 1: yesterday on CBS Sports, already owning seventy of league. So
Speaker 1: maybe if you play in ten teamers, you go out
Speaker 1: there and pick him up. He absolutely needs to be
Speaker 1: owned in every single PPR league. He's gonna, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: rocket up to a high inflex option in PPR every
Speaker 1: single week. We saw how good that he can be
Speaker 1: or PPR purposes last year he finished as a what
Speaker 1: top fifteen, top twelve running back last year for PPR.
Speaker 1: We know how good he can be. And this is
Speaker 1: a team right now that is void of offensive weapons.
Speaker 1: Outside of Jarvis Landry and David and Joku, they don't
Speaker 1: have a ton of pass cashing options here. So Duke Johnson,
Speaker 1: uh instantly steps up as a guy that you know
Speaker 1: they can He can catch pass out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: they can line up and the slot line them out wide.
Speaker 1: I saw the use him in multiple different ways yesterday,
Speaker 1: So really really encouraging. And he's not the only running
Speaker 1: back I'm encouraged by here, Greg because Nick Chubb, you know,
Speaker 1: showed off. Um you know why he was drafted in
Speaker 1: the second round, and I know you might look at
Speaker 1: his line and see, oh, three point nine yards per carry.
Speaker 1: He made a few very very shifty runs on that
Speaker 1: touchdown run if you watched him, great great patients waited
Speaker 1: for the hole to open up and then ran through that.
Speaker 1: The guy had twenty two carries yesterday. He hasn't had
Speaker 1: less than eighteen carries in a single game since Carlos
Speaker 1: Hyde has been traded. He is a bona fide high
Speaker 1: end r B two because of the way he's being used,
Speaker 1: averaging over nineteen carries a game in those three games,
Speaker 1: and proved even in a game where the Browns are losing,
Speaker 1: he's still going to get a heavy workload. So I
Speaker 1: trust Nick Chubb weekend and week out right now to
Speaker 1: get eighteen to twenty touches, even in games where they
Speaker 1: have negative game scripts, because we just saw it happen. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And again a little bit different because Kansas City has
Speaker 1: a terrible run defense, and Nick was able to explit
Speaker 1: that a little bit thing is for fantasy purposes they do,
Speaker 1: but where they've been killed a lot this year is
Speaker 1: running backs catching the ball out of the back, which, again,
Speaker 1: which is what Duke Johnson did. They actually aren't terrible
Speaker 1: on a yards per carry basis and allowing rushing yards
Speaker 1: per game. That's probably because a lot of the teams
Speaker 1: that they face they blow out, so those teams have
Speaker 1: to abandon the run. But they actually have been pretty
Speaker 1: good against actual, like pure running backs. So for Trump
Speaker 1: to go out there and still give you eighty five
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, I if I own him right now,
Speaker 1: I feel uh, I feel I feel pretty damn good
Speaker 1: if you owned him and Carlos Hide. And I know
Speaker 1: it sucks you lost Carlos Hide, but in losing Carlos Hide,
Speaker 1: you gained an RB two and Nick Chubb, So it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like you traded one guy for the other. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: dude Johnson who It's frustrating because I've owned him and
Speaker 1: I dropped him pretty much everywhere, um hold on him.
Speaker 1: A few people asked me about open weekend, should I
Speaker 1: drop to Johnson? Like, let's see how the new oc
Speaker 1: uses it, because there's there's a chance and you're saying
Speaker 1: there's a chance. And also, um, yeah, we should have
Speaker 1: realized this right that, like the USC running backs coach,
Speaker 1: so that's where he comes from. The Cleveland staff, you know,
Speaker 1: hype up, hype up Nick Chubb, hype up to Johnson.
Speaker 1: We missed that last week. Um, and we shouldn't. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't have so, Um, you know something, I don't know
Speaker 1: how we would find this information out because it's always
Speaker 1: something that I that we learned after the game. But
Speaker 1: like Travis Kelsey being in Ohio native, apparently that was
Speaker 1: like a storyline because they asked him after the game.
Speaker 1: They were like, how does it feel to score touchdown?
Speaker 1: You were you know, you were from Cleveland. Like it
Speaker 1: seems like whenever teams go back to a place where
Speaker 1: like a players from, they make it a thing to
Speaker 1: like get that player involved. I remember last year Greg
Speaker 1: jerck McKinnon against Atlanta. It's all the broadcast was talking
Speaker 1: about Jack McKinnon coming back to a lineup plane in
Speaker 1: the dome whatever, and he scored a touchdown in that game.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how we would keep track of
Speaker 1: like where every player is from and whether they're having
Speaker 1: a homecoming. But apparently that was like a legit storyline.
Speaker 1: Elsie coming home in Cleveland and he scored, you know,
Speaker 1: he had phenomenally. That was a storyline. It didn't matter
Speaker 1: because you're never not but I mean that's that's a
Speaker 1: good point. But I mean for DFS purposes, like that
Speaker 1: could have been the deciding factor, Like okay, I was Uh.
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill did play for his back injury. He had
Speaker 1: four for sixty nine. Sammy Watkins at five or sixty two,
Speaker 1: so both of them pretty even. Spencer where four sixty
Speaker 1: nine out of the backfield for Kansas City. You gotta
Speaker 1: own him. If he's not owned anywhere, make sure you
Speaker 1: make sure you grab him for the stretch run. I know, uh,
Speaker 1: and we're getting close that I think we're there. I
Speaker 1: know Eman still has twitted this out a lot. Scott
Speaker 1: Piganowski as well. This is when you gotta own the
Speaker 1: handcuffs and spencer You have next to no fab left anyway,
Speaker 1: correct spencer ware is the clear handcuff to Cream Hunt.
Speaker 1: If anything happens where it's gonna step right into this role.
Speaker 1: You want to own the running back. In Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Cream Hunts seventeen carries ninety yards and you touchdowns. Patty
Speaker 1: Mahomes was, as you know, phenomenal as always. So it's
Speaker 1: par for the course for the Chief's offense. I think
Speaker 1: a little bit let down by what Tyre you killing
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins did. But there's just gonna be those games
Speaker 1: where all right, this week it's Kelsey and Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 1: You just kind of gotta take the good with the
Speaker 1: bed eas. In Seattle yesterday, the seventeen Russell Wilson had
Speaker 1: him on the goal line to end the game, untimed
Speaker 1: down to win it. David Moore drafted brutal data. Necessarily
Speaker 1: blame David more though, do you see it just barely
Speaker 1: got tipped. Now I'm gonna d got catch the ball.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta watch the play again. The tips and
Speaker 1: then the ball like that changes the trajectory and when
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But when it's in
Speaker 1: your chest, you gotta cash that. Man. I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 1: a hard I know you're saying, but it's a harder catching.
Speaker 1: You realize once once that fingertip hits it, it completely
Speaker 1: changed the trajectory of the ball and everything. Like you
Speaker 1: should have called it, but I don't. I don't completely
Speaker 1: put up. It's a great play by the defender. Yes,
Speaker 1: fantastic to play the defender, but I'm you know, we disagree.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta catch the ball. I feel Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson threw it close to forty times. It was good
Speaker 1: for fantashy purposes. Yards so much six yards per tempt? Here, Greg,
Speaker 1: what are we doing. They're not pushing the ball down
Speaker 1: the field at all. Doug Baldwin, you like the yards
Speaker 1: that he had in this game, but still does forge targets.
Speaker 1: I've mentioned, you know, wide receiver by committee and it
Speaker 1: seems weird, but look at the wide receivers on this team.
Speaker 1: Daven Moore was the most targeted wide receiver yesterday. He
Speaker 1: had seven targets, but I mean he had two for sixteen.
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett four targets, three for twenty two. Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: four targets, four for seventy seven, four for seventy seven helps,
Speaker 1: And if you know, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people had him in there as a as a wide
Speaker 1: receiver three. But I mean if he has the same
Speaker 1: number of targets as Tyler Lockett, I mean he very
Speaker 1: easily could have been the guy with three for twenty two.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the Seahawks pass catchers
Speaker 1: right now, it's it's just a mess. And on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis, I can't rank any player higher than a
Speaker 1: wide receiver three. And I know I might get burned
Speaker 1: for like the accuracy rankings, but it's just there's no
Speaker 1: way of knowing. It's just a complete you know, all right, one,
Speaker 1: We'll just take what defenses are giving to us. Nick
Speaker 1: Vannette was targeted eight times in this game. Ed Dixon
Speaker 1: a guy who scored a touchdown last week who we
Speaker 1: thought maybe it would be a viable tight end this
Speaker 1: week with with the six teams on a buy, he
Speaker 1: only had one target and you know he zero catches,
Speaker 1: zero receiving yards. Chris Carson was the storyline coming into
Speaker 1: this game whether he was gonna playing with the hip injury,
Speaker 1: something he's kind of dealt with all season long. It
Speaker 1: carries forty rushing yards five yards to carry. He was fine,
Speaker 1: but left the game at halftime. We didn't see him again.
Speaker 1: I think I have a good feeling that when we
Speaker 1: do the Waiver Wire show tomorrow, Mike Davis is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the top ads because we've seen in
Speaker 1: games that Chris Carson doesn't play fifteen for sixty two
Speaker 1: four yards of pop and he was heavily, heavily used
Speaker 1: in the passing game. So it's now, you know, the
Speaker 1: past couple of games that Chris Carson has either not
Speaker 1: played or has been injured throughout, Mike Davis has been
Speaker 1: the guy who picks up the slack, not first round
Speaker 1: pick shot Penny Johan Petty did have that touch on
Speaker 1: the first drive, though, which I thought it was interesting
Speaker 1: of Mike Davids stepped up in the second half. It
Speaker 1: was all about him. He's clearly second running back on
Speaker 1: this team. There's just no rhyme or reason with anything
Speaker 1: with Seattle, right, There's not There's no there's no patternet
Speaker 1: you can say that, oh oh, in this matchup, Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1: We gotta use him in this matchup. David Moore is
Speaker 1: gonna be the most targeted wide receiver, uh, Todave or
Speaker 1: Shot Penny is going to be used. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no reading heat Carol and the Seahawks right now, which
Speaker 1: sucks for fantasy owners, but it's great from an NFL
Speaker 1: perspective because it makes it It makes them a team
Speaker 1: that's hard to gain plan for, and that's all they
Speaker 1: care about. From an NFL perspective. If you're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who am I going to defend today, that
Speaker 1: that creates problems if you don't know, you know, are
Speaker 1: we gonna see for Shot Penny? Are we gonna see
Speaker 1: Mike Davis, We're gonna see Chris Carson. That makes hard
Speaker 1: for opposing teams to game plan for the Seahawks, so
Speaker 1: it helps them for an NFL perspective, it's a complete
Speaker 1: mess for fantasy. On the other side, for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: they've released Caleb Starters this morning after he missed left
Speaker 1: uh five points on the on the board yesterday, which
Speaker 1: is just there are a few things every single year
Speaker 1: that are just locks for like the just like Julio
Speaker 1: Jones not scoring touchdowns is one of them. I thought
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. Julio Jones not scoring touchdown. Whoever the
Speaker 1: Chargers signed to be their kicker is going to suck.
Speaker 1: I don't. It's like there's like a bad juju somewhere.
Speaker 1: Uh there, there's someone with like a voodoo doll with
Speaker 1: like the Chargers kicking it and like stabbing their leg
Speaker 1: Because every single year there's a few locks in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers just having a terrible kicker is one
Speaker 1: of them. Every single year. It's crazy. Since Nate Kating
Speaker 1: probably been Nating back, should probably just signed Cairo Santos
Speaker 1: and just have a good kicker. Yeah, they they've wroted
Speaker 1: the guy off the practice squad who who well, to
Speaker 1: be fair, he kicked for the Caleb Sturgeon was hurt
Speaker 1: and made all ten of his kicks like a badge.
Speaker 1: Lay believe his name is starch is. I mean it
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad kicker before this year, right was Dolphins
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen stepped up six four on ten targets. He
Speaker 1: was all over the field yesterday. That's the big takeaway.
Speaker 1: And Melvin Gordon was awesome. Six team for one thirteen
Speaker 1: and one. Yeah, just look at the target share for
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen in this game. And again, this is what
Speaker 1: I love to see, uh, coming off the bye right
Speaker 1: with the Chargers kind of similar to the Falcons, how
Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons kind of figured out their offense
Speaker 1: in throughout the bye. I'm not gonna say the Chargers
Speaker 1: necessarily figured their offense out, because we would still want
Speaker 1: Mike Williams to be viable here for us, but they
Speaker 1: did figure out Keenan Allen. Ten targets on twenty six
Speaker 1: passing attempts. That is a massive, massive target share there,
Speaker 1: up over a hundred and twenty four yards. Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: never a guy who's gonna score a ton of touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but for PPR purposes, even in half PPR, this was
Speaker 1: a very very encouraging game for keen down and then
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, a guy who you know, we got a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about last week dealing with the hamstring injury. Worried,
Speaker 1: you know, is he going to be the next Dalvin Cook?
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett constantly dealing with this hampshion injury kind
Speaker 1: of shut everyone up yesterday. Sixteen carries of of the
Speaker 1: night team running back carries yesterday for the Chargers, Loven
Speaker 1: Gordon had sixteen of those incredible efficiency, seven yards of
Speaker 1: carry a touchdown. The pass game usage took a back
Speaker 1: seat here still saw four targets, only one reception. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, if you were worried about Melvin Gordon because
Speaker 1: of the hampshtion injury, I think that you're worried no more. Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely that. And speaking of no more, we're done on
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Speaker 1: to the radio, were going up for four minutes with
Speaker 1: you as we wrap up program, Frank Frank, before we
Speaker 1: get to our pick for tonight. Two games, uh, two
Speaker 1: other games yesterday that we didn't really get a chance
Speaker 1: to get into. Um that was last night the Patriots
Speaker 1: and the Packers. A little bit an underwhelming game, I thought. Um,
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon stepped up without Rob Gronkowski. He looks locked
Speaker 1: and loaded as one of Tom Brady's new favorite targets.
Speaker 1: And and the act. It's really stepped up without Geronimo
Speaker 1: Allison and with Devaz Adams being covered, Um, it really
Speaker 1: double covers most of the night. NB stepped up in
Speaker 1: major but yeah, he had was tied for the second
Speaker 1: most targets in this game with Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's starting to show that, you know, he can make
Speaker 1: contested catches down the field. I mean NBS. You know,
Speaker 1: a guy who's well over six ft tall, he's very fast,
Speaker 1: so he can make some of these big plays. And
Speaker 1: I like to say this about young players, especially with
Speaker 1: h with one of the better quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 1: if you start to earn their trust, they're going to
Speaker 1: continue to go your way. So MVS looking like that
Speaker 1: high end wide receiver three packers wide receiver, which we
Speaker 1: are constantly trying to find. Who's that number two guy
Speaker 1: who can be the wide receiver three for me? Earlier
Speaker 1: on in the season it was Allison, he's banged up.
Speaker 1: As of right now, it looks like it's MVS. On
Speaker 1: the Patriots side of things. You know, it's interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, being tardy to some practices last week, said
Speaker 1: that he was going to be benched. Didn't happen up,
Speaker 1: that's so. I mean, it's just it's kind of been
Speaker 1: a weird, weird tenure for Josh Gordon to this point.
Speaker 1: But I will say, while he doesn't look like the
Speaker 1: same athlete, the same player of years past, the Patriots
Speaker 1: are clearly clearly making it a thing to get him involved.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's down the field. You saw on
Speaker 1: the red zone when they were in the red zone,
Speaker 1: they threw him the goal line. Uh you know, back
Speaker 1: shoulder passed, which was like a slip on his part.
Speaker 1: It was not great. The touch that he scored. That
Speaker 1: was pure mastery of Tom Brady, just manipulating the defense
Speaker 1: looking off both corners to the to the screen pass.
Speaker 1: They both bit through the Josh Gordon. The rest was
Speaker 1: history there and look, James White man, James White just
Speaker 1: continuing to get it done. The guys an absolute monster
Speaker 1: for fantasy purposes. Um, yeah, it's more of the same
Speaker 1: from him. Uh. Sony Michelle hopefully gets healthy throughout the
Speaker 1: by but I mean, this knee injury could continue to
Speaker 1: be a thing for Sony Michelle the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Last game Bills and Bears, we stayed in the last
Speaker 1: nothing there. Jordan Howard stepped up um because half of
Speaker 1: Bill's team, the Bears defense, was the obvious playing but
Speaker 1: then we played him. Yeah. Shout out to our guy
Speaker 1: Michael Florida who has been banging the drum for Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard as a by low candidate. We we mentioned the
Speaker 1: uh the matchups against the Detroit Lions coming up two
Speaker 1: of the next three games. Detroit hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: stop anybody on the ground, even with acquiring snacks Harrison.
Speaker 1: We just saw what Dalvin Cook did with that seventy
Speaker 1: yard run. Well, Tavius Murray also escored a rushing touchdown,
Speaker 1: So continue to use your running backs against the Lions.
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard looks like he's in a great position and
Speaker 1: moving forward. Titans are visiting Jerry World tonight. Monday Night
Speaker 1: football spreads down a five and a half. I believe
Speaker 1: Dallas favorite Frank and he got with the five and
Speaker 1: a half points. I will I'll take Tennessee. I think
Speaker 1: this is a closer game, three or four point game.
Speaker 1: I'll also take the over as well, and I like
Speaker 1: Tennis Emo, I will annoyingly take Dallas and the under.
Speaker 1: I will completely separate from you. That's what happens, Frank Standfell.
Speaker 1: My name is Greg Susman. Thank you so much for
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