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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number eighty.

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Speaker 1: Today the show, my co host Dan and I are

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Speaker 1: going to be exploring, explaining, and lamenting the fine line

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Speaker 1: between success and failure during the run. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Sick Gear. And today on the show, Dan and I

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Speaker 1: are going to share with you a story of two

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Speaker 1: ruts and the very fine line that runs between the two.

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Speaker 1: And specifically, that's the fine line that runs between success

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Speaker 1: and failure during the rut. And since Dan and I

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Speaker 1: last record a podcast two weeks ago, a lot has happened.

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Speaker 1: One of us fill the tag, one of us didn't,

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Speaker 1: but maybecame pretty close. We both, most certainly though, had

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Speaker 1: our fair share of challenges along the way and lots

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Speaker 1: of lessons learned. So today we're going to explore both

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Speaker 1: of these stories and deconstruct a few of the things

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Speaker 1: that went well and a few of the things that

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Speaker 1: did not. It's definitely gonna be interesting, maybe painful, maybe exciting,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of both, but I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it. That said, though, before we dive in, we

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Speaker 1: do need to pause briefly for a word from our

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Speaker 1: partners at SICA Gear, and today we're actually going to

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Speaker 1: be switching things up a little and instead of our

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Speaker 1: usual quick chats with Dennis Zuck, we've got Corey Piersall,

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Speaker 1: a customer service associate for Sick of Gear, and Corey

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Speaker 1: is the guy who typically answers the phone when you

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Speaker 1: give SICK a call of the question. So I'm curious, Corey,

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Speaker 1: other than the basic Sick of clothing related stuff, what

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Speaker 1: kind of calls do you actually get um from just

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Speaker 1: a general phone call perspective. I've had calls that kind

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Speaker 1: of spread the gamut of can you tell me about

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Speaker 1: a go pro? I don't understand how go pro works

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Speaker 1: to you know? You know my sheep hunt? Can you

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Speaker 1: walk me through what I can expect? You know, what gear?

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Speaker 1: What food? You know, hydration filters? You know. We enjoyed

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Speaker 1: a conversate about just about anything here. So does that

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Speaker 1: mean if I've got any hunting questions I can call

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Speaker 1: you and you'll help me on in that too? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I can do that perfect. I need all

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Speaker 1: the help I can get. So if you've got questions

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Speaker 1: about sheep go pros, sick of gear, or anything else

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Speaker 1: for that matter, give Corey call or check out sid

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Speaker 1: gear dot com. And now let's get back to the show. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So Dan, two fifteen Rucastion is over for you and me.

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Speaker 1: You're back to the real world. How you feeling, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't even really want to talk about it, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know Murphy's law. I think it's called anything

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Speaker 1: that can go wrong will go wrong. I think that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. That's kind of what happened, man. And uh,

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Speaker 1: let's not even let's what I say we start this

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Speaker 1: show off on a positive note? Actually, what do you

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Speaker 1: want to do? Do you want to start off positive

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Speaker 1: or do you want to end positive? I was kind

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Speaker 1: of leaning the opposite of what you're gonna say. I

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Speaker 1: was kind of leaning towards ending on the high notes

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Speaker 1: so we could leave our listeners with like some hope

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Speaker 1: maybe yeah, for sure, for sure that sounds good. But

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Speaker 1: but you know, like I mentioned in the in the intro,

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Speaker 1: I think we both have had some instances of that

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Speaker 1: Murphy's law type thing. Happening. Um, and if I learned anything,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to this later when we kind of

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Speaker 1: talk through some of my my experiences. But if I

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Speaker 1: it just this isn't even something I learned. It's just

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Speaker 1: something that was reinforced. Again. It's just that that line

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Speaker 1: imagine with you, you've got some stories where there are

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Speaker 1: some things just like that, and I, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: I had my I had my fair share of you know,

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Speaker 1: take Can I rewind really fast just to make you

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Speaker 1: feel a little bit better about yourself right now? Yeah

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Speaker 1: you can. But it's not gonna work. No, it probably won't,

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Speaker 1: makes me laugh. But you did kill a giant buck,

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Speaker 1: that is true, So I guess that's my payment. I

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Speaker 1: had to do this. I had to trade two hours

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Speaker 1: what you got, I would do it. Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. So now now that my embarrassment,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to yours. Talk to me what we

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Speaker 1: we haven't actually what we talked a little bit on

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Speaker 1: the phone, I guess, but we didn't recorded podcast in

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Speaker 1: What's happened since then? Oh so I'll just say that,

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Speaker 1: literally the best three days for for weather conditions. I

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Speaker 1: was an awesome wedding. I nailed the best man speech.

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Speaker 1: these deer that I'm hunting our quote unquote low pressure.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to complain, but these are

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Speaker 1: to face this year. Yeah, definitely still challenges. I was

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Speaker 1: at least get an estimate. You know, this year, because

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Speaker 1: Not only am I fighting pressure on either side the farm,

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Speaker 1: just happened to have this sanctuary that I, you know,

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Speaker 1: more than I have ever been busted before. On this

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Speaker 1: smaller property. It's just just two different types of deer. Interesting, so,

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Speaker 1: you know. And and then with with the inconsistent winds,

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Speaker 1: the show, but osonics, you know, I trust in them

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Speaker 1: a lot. And when the wind conditions are are right,

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Speaker 1: But when you got winds that are going hundred and

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Speaker 1: and and you're that's almost a full time job. And

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Speaker 1: sit there and watch if the deer coming. And you know,

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Speaker 1: not so much of my southern property, but on my

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Speaker 1: out of the northeast. How that happens, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fighting this. And when the gusts would come through,

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Speaker 1: so I would move of you know, Okay, win's bad.

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Speaker 1: If there was, if there was shooting lanes, if I

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Speaker 1: big bucks to chase the next year. There you go.

428
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Speaker 1: So here's my last kind of question about what's been

429
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: going on the last two weeks. If you look back

430
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: on your rut hunts, like you said, you had seven

431
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: days or maybe a little bit more than that, if

432
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: you include before the wedding and everything, would you have

433
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: done anything different? Yeah? Well other than other than hitting

434
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: that buck? Yeah, what would you have done different? All right?

435
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: So I'll just say it right now, and hopefully I

436
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: can have this article finished by the time that we

437
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: launched the podcast. But I'm I'm writing an article right

438
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: now about the five wise. It's called white Tail five Wide,

439
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: and it's about what I you. You have a problem,

440
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Why didn't I kill a mature buck? And you ask

441
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: yourself why? Times? Why? Because I missed him? Why did

442
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: you miss him? Because I miss judged the distance? Why

443
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: did I miss judge the distance? Because I didn't practice enough? Okay,

444
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's an end result right there. I needed

445
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: practice more for my shots. You know why? You know,

446
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: why did I not kill a mature buck? Because of

447
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: inconsistent winds? You know? Why were there inconsistent Because I

448
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: got busted? Why did I get busted because of inconsistent winds?

449
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: And you can't really break that down why were there

450
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: inconsistent winds? But what you can learn from that is

451
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: I was in the wrong stand location? Why were you

452
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: in the wrong stand location? Because it's a new property,

453
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: and it really doesn't it's not all about finding a problem.

454
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: It can also be about learning from a negative experience.

455
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: And you know that's the that's the theme with this podcast.

456
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, and um you know, and you know why

457
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: didn't my pattern of buck because I didn't have much

458
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: trail cameras out? Why didn't I have by trail cameras out?

459
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Good question, dumbass? You know what I mean? Like it

460
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: came down to me deciding to get in a truck

461
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: and try to make it home to my family before

462
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: dark as opposed to staying out in an additional hour

463
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: and a half to put my trail cameras where they

464
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: needed to be. You know, I'm not going to use

465
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: my family as an excuse, and I'm not going to

466
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: use time as an excuse because I had the time

467
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: and my family understands that it's hunting season. So that's

468
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: on me. You know, some of this stuff is on me. Yeah,

469
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: time is important, and no, I didn't get a hunt

470
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: as much as I did in other seasons. But you know,

471
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, of what happened this year is on me,

472
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: and then the rest of it is on you know, chance.

473
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: You can't control the weather. You can't control the guy.

474
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: You know. Like Saturday morning, I'm like, you know what,

475
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I have all my supplies, I'm sitting all day, I

476
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: have a consistent wind. The neighbor comes out and starts

477
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: chainsawing and lighting his leaves on fire. And where does

478
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: the smoke go right down the valley into my stand

479
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: set and blows all the bottom out. I got up

480
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: and watched the Hawkeyes go tennanel. So so there that

481
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, I didn't hunt at all Sunday.

482
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, I had to hang over. Well, well, there

483
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: you go. So there's that. But what I want to know,

484
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: I want to hear about your success because that actually

485
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: makes me happy. Well I want to tell that story too,

486
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: but before that, we do need to take a quick

487
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: break for word from our sponsors of this podcast episode

488
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489
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490
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Speaker 1: and being our resident class clown and bored in the tree,

491
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Speaker 1: he started filming his own take on a commercial for

492
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Speaker 1: Lacrosse Boots and it was pretty awful, but it made

493
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: me laugh hard. And so today I wanted to listen

494
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: back on that old clip and then chat with Pete

495
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: now to see just what he was thinking when he

496
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: came up with the cross boots most effective or awful

497
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Speaker 1: new slogan, LA cross boots it's better on your feet.

498
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're I'm not sure if they're Mark,

499
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure if they're. They're saying make up

500
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: for them, the cross boots better off on my feet

501
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: than yours. All right, So Pete, when I first saw

502
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: this clip, I was in hunting camp during the two rut.

503
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: I think in Ohio, and I watched it and I

504
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: just broke down laughing, what were you thinking when you're

505
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: sitting in the tree doing that interview? Well, Mark, as

506
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I listened to that now, I think I was probably

507
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: a little sleep deprived. As we mentioned in that clip,

508
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: it was a it was a unique season. We lost

509
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: our property opening week and the reason why we don't

510
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: go in the property much because we know the habitat

511
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: what the deer doing, but they got least out from

512
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: under us. We didn't have at least there, but property

513
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: was gone. So it's kind of a long season, even

514
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: though it's only mid in October. So I just was

515
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: probably see the pride, kind of anxious that day and said,

516
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Speaker 1: you know what I was talking about these boots, you know,

517
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: the cross boots. It's kind of what it was. Yeah.

518
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Speaker 1: So so now that you've worn those Lacrosse arrowheads for

519
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, I think you know, what

520
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: are your what are your actual thoughts on them? All?

521
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Joking aside, Well, yeah, I'll joking aside. I was a

522
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: little apprehensive at first. I had a pair of boots

523
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: similar they weren't Lacrosse, another brand, and they were kind

524
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: of made my feet cramp and kind of and I

525
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: walked up hills and the angles weren't very supportive. Little

526
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: history on me. It's pretty athletic back in the day,

527
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: as we all were, so to speak. But I've had

528
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: three knee surgeries and walking and those boots can take

529
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: a toll. But I noticed with that change in this season,

530
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: I had to walk farther, go through rivers, up and

531
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: down more bluffs than usual to do some new scouting,

532
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: and my feet were fine, my hips were fine, and

533
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: the low back didn't take a toll like I usually

534
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: have with other boots to the same brand or the

535
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: same typer style. Quite impressed. Yeah, definitely, that's awesome. Well, glad,

536
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: glad that they served you well and helped you feel

537
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: like you were young and athletic again. Yeah, that was

538
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: one thing. You can say this for sure. So if

539
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Speaker 1: you're looking for a new pair of hunting boots or

540
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: just want to feel young again, visit Lacrosse Footwear dot com.

541
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Speaker 1: And now back to the show. Well, it makes me

542
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: happy to I wish that I'm sorry to hear about

543
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: how stuff went for you. Man, I know I know

544
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: that feeling um, but man, like we're saying earlier, the

545
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: difference between that feeling and the feeling I have right now.

546
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: It's like one minute period, like if one minute had

547
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: been different for you, have been a completely different feeling.

548
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: And that's how it was for me, you know, yeah, yeah,

549
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: just um, It's it's just amazing to me how I

550
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: was feeling the same way that you're feeling right now.

551
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: On Tuesday night last week, the thing after thing after

552
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: thing was going wrong, I was just down, and I

553
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, it's just not in the

554
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: cards this year. I got lucky. I killed that buck

555
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: opening day in Michigan, and that's it. My luck ran out.

556
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: Things are not coming together, and and I just it

557
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like it was gonna happen. And then

558
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I mean just a matter of seconds,

559
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: it flipped on its head. And that's just something that

560
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: is so hard to remind ourselves of or keep us

561
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: believing in. When you sit out there for hours and

562
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: hours and hours, day after day after day, and things

563
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: goes wrong, and things go wrong, and and you're you're tired,

564
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: and you're set, and you're frustrated or whatever might be.

565
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: And we like we talked about in the last episode

566
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: the dark side of the rut. I mean, these feelings

567
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: that we can get when things aren't going our way,

568
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: they can really bring it down. But it's just this

569
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: this season, more than any other, has just reminded me

570
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: of the fact that regardless of what's going on, or

571
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: what conditions are wrong or what isn't happening, you just

572
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: need to be out there keeping on grinding because eventually

573
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: a switch can flip or a small little thing can happen,

574
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and it just changes everything. So that's what happened for me.

575
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Um and two other examples of a similar thing happening.

576
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Speaker 1: We're actually three other examples were really good examples of

577
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: this same concept. Because you know, since we last talked, Um,

578
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: we talked two weeks ago and I had just come

579
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Speaker 1: home from Iowa after being out there for five days. Um,

580
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 1: I came home for a day because a warm front hit.

581
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: It was gonna be in the mid seventies, and I

582
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: had to do some stuff at home, so I came

583
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: home for a day. I figured that warm front, that's

584
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the day to it. So I came home. Well the

585
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: next morning again this super hot day, like two Tuesday,

586
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: I think it was or Wednesday. One of my friends

587
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: kills a nice Iowa buck right there down by where

588
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: I was hunting. The next morning, again one of these

589
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: mid seventy degree days, my buddy Corey that you know,

590
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: shot a really nice, nearly hundred fifty class buck on

591
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: one of these really hot days. Two days later, when

592
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: it's still pretty warm and super windy, again, I'm thinking

593
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna be the best of days. My

594
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: other buddy kills a really nice buck. So it's just like,

595
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: even when we're looking at these things that say day

596
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: is not going to be the day, or oh this

597
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: thing's going wrong or whatever it might be, you know,

598
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: you just gotta be out there. You gotta be going

599
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: at it because these you know, these three were perfect

600
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: examples for me again of even when in my head

601
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the forecast or I'm looking at my

602
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, whatever cards have been dealt to me, I'm like,

603
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good. Well boom. Just like that, they

604
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: were perfect examples the fact that it can change. So

605
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: that all said, you know, after we talked two weeks ago,

606
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: I got back on the truck, drove back down to Iowa,

607
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: and I hunted Wednesday night all day Thursday all day

608
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: fry day and Saturday morning, I think, um, and it

609
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: was kind of more of the same. Um. Every hunt

610
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: I went on there was some other issue with another

611
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: hunter hunting pressure. UM. I went to another farm. I

612
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: got permission on a property where I got permission from

613
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: a family that had two farms. One was the big

614
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: five acre one. That's where I've been hunting most of

615
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: October and early November, and that's where I kept on

616
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: running the hunters every time. Every single time went out

617
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: there, there there was someone else. So I was like, all right,

618
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: it's time to ditch this farm, which I thought was

619
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: really great. At least it looked good as I need

620
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: to try somewhere new. So I went to this other

621
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: smaller piece that didn't look quite as good in the map,

622
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: but I was hoping maybe it's, you know, uh overlooked

623
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: by other hunters. Well, I got out there, and here's

624
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: two other hunters that show up when I get out there.

625
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: So I just couldn't get away from it. Um. I

626
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: went back to my little honey hole that I had

627
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: found on the first farm. UM. After two days of

628
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: that new one, and went to this far little corner

629
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Speaker 1: where it didn't seem anybody else going, and that's where

630
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: i'd seen those couple of shooter bucks early in November. UM.

631
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: And I went back to sit that and midday here

632
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: comes a guy on the neighboring property driving all over

633
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: the place in his truck, stopping walking onto my farm

634
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: that I have access to. He had a camera on

635
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: that farm this farm too, walks into the field I'm sitting,

636
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: and then goes into his property or this neighboring property,

637
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: walks right up the big betting rage where all these

638
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: deer has been coming out, walking all over the place,

639
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: hanging trial cameras and all this kind of stuff. So

640
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of disheartening, um, but you know, like you said,

641
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: that's just what happens eat whether it's Michigan or Iowa

642
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: or wherever. You have to deal with other hunters and

643
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: it does impact the deer hunting. So that was happening.

644
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: And so I didn't see any shooters that week in Iowa.

645
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: I was feeling kind of down, and I was like,

646
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I just need to change the scenery. Um.

647
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: And a cold front was hitting in Ohio that next day,

648
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: so I said, you know, I gotta get down there

649
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: and and give Ohio shot. So drove down to Ohio

650
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: and start hunting there. Excuse me. It ended up being

651
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: really slow there too. I thought I was gonna be

652
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: on that front hit timing was good, but just nothing

653
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: was moving. It was just like ridiculously dead. Um Like,

654
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: for the first three days, I saw like one deer

655
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: a day too, deer. My buddy saw one deer, two deer.

656
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was definitely slow, to the

657
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: point I was like getting worried, like, what's going on? Um?

658
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: This was never a place where he saw tons of deer,

659
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: but you know, you'd usually see some you know, at

660
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: this time, you see some bucks cruising, you'd see some

661
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: two year olds running around, you see some stuff going on.

662
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: But it just wasn't happening. Um. But I did check

663
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: some trail cameras and I got good news on the

664
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: trail camera. What I saw was that starting that last

665
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: week of October and continuing on all the way n

666
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: till I got there, the buck I was after above

667
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: all others this year, Glenn was back on the farm

668
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: and consistently like he was hitting this one. We had

669
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: one camera that he hit eight times over the course

670
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: of seven days, I think, and some of those those

671
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: visits were during daylight or like right on the edge

672
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: of it. So I was really excited about that, and

673
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: that made me decide, you know, just to focus all

674
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: my efforts on this single ridge, this basic, one little

675
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: area where it seemed like he was hitting over and

676
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: over and over, and it's a it's the best funnel

677
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: towards just outside of a betting area on this property

678
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: that we have. Um And I just kept on telling

679
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: my stuff, if you if you sit here long enough,

680
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna come cruising through. Like this isn't a

681
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: big this is a very small property, and the amount

682
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: of actual hunting or huntable land is really small. There's

683
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: just a couple of fingers of timber really, um So

684
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: the bait there's a betting area and a half on

685
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: it really where a couple of doze bed And basically

686
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: you're banking on the fact that these bucks are gonna

687
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: cruise from the two properties on either side and cross through,

688
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: and you just have to put your time in long

689
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: enough till they finally do. And you've got to be

690
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: in the right spot. Um So, I just told myself,

691
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: if I do that, if I sit out long enough

692
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: in this basic area, Eventually it's gotta work out. Something's

693
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: got to come through, and hopefully, based on these pictures,

694
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Glenn will be the one that does. Um. But you know,

695
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, those first three days, it wasn't happening.

696
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: It was just super super duper slow. Um. Were you

697
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: seen any movement? Pretty much none. I mean a couple

698
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: of those here and there, and a spike. The only

699
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: buck we saw for the first three days was a spike. Um.

700
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: And the morning before my success, I did see a

701
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: little more movement. And then that evening at late like

702
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: after last light, like just I could see figures way

703
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: off in the distance with my binoculars. I was kind

704
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: of sitting there's this betting air that butts up to

705
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: this little finger of cut beans, and I was sitting

706
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: on the edge of betting are overlooking the betting air.

707
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: But you could see way down this open field, way

708
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: back behind me, and way at the other end of

709
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: the property. After dark, I can make out the figure

710
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: of two big bucks walking across the field towards the neighbors. UM.

711
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: So I was like, hey, all right, this is you know,

712
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: a little something, a little bit encouraging. There are some

713
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: decent bucks still here, which you know, I knew, but

714
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, when you're not seeing it for three

715
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: or four days, it's it's you start to doubt it. Um.

716
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: That made me feel a little bit better. Um. I

717
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: was hoping, you know, maybe things are changing. But then

718
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: the next morning I went back to my basic core

719
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: area where I thought these deer would be, and again nothing.

720
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: I sat, you know, the first and that's funny, all day, um,

721
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: and the first like ten hours of the day saw nothing.

722
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: So this brings me to the day of days. And

723
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: I guess that one of the first eight ten hours

724
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a day or whatever it was, um, and saw no

725
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: dear at all. Just dos a door knob. It's November tenth,

726
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: I think, and just nothing. And so I'm sitting there,

727
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, maybe I need to switch it up.

728
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to change my stand location. Um, there's

729
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: another stand to have. There's only like eight yards away

730
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: from where I was at that would give me a

731
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: view at least of that corner where I saw those

732
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: two bucks come out the night before, and it's more

733
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: on closer to the food source. And I was like, well,

734
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe I should shift over there. At least I could

735
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: see something and maybe call to something based on where

736
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: I am right now is deep in the timber and

737
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: I can't see anything unless it's you know, relatively close. Um.

738
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: But it's a better funnel. So I sat there for

739
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: like half hour, just going back and forth, back and

740
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: forth what should I do? And finally like, you know what,

741
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna move. So I start packing on my stuff

742
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: and then crash, cash cash, crash, Here comes a dough

743
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: running past me and the little buck chasoner. I'm like, well,

744
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: maybe that's a sign, um. So then I just kind

745
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: of paused for another minute, and I'm like, okay, you know,

746
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna move. So I start packing up my

747
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: stuff again, and then step step step, here comes another

748
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: buck cruising down the ridge towards me. I'm like, all right,

749
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: that's got to be a sign, like I need to

750
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: stay here. Yeah. So I stayed there for like another

751
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: hour hour and a half and then the little birdie

752
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: in the back of my head starts chirping again, you

753
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: gotta move, you gotta move. What time? What time was this?

754
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: This is like three fifteen in the afternoon and not

755
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: three thirty, um, and it's getting dark around just before

756
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: six o'clock. I believe is the end of shooting lay

757
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: um and it's like you gotta move, you gotta move,

758
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you can't move, and then the birds

759
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: like saying, yeah, you gotta move. So finally, like you

760
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna go with my gut. Like

761
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the things in my head, I'm

762
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: looking at the fact that, yeah, this spot, even though

763
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: it hasn't been as good historically, it's your best bet.

764
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna funnel deer movement. If something moves through, this

765
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be where they go through. You got the

766
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: pictures right back here. But my gut just you gotta

767
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: switch it up. And it wasn't a big shift. I

768
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: only moved like eight yards away, but you know enough

769
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: that if something came through on this ridge, I wouldn't

770
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: be shooting it. So I finally was like, you know what,

771
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: you just got a trust your gut. I didn't have

772
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: a really I had a couple of decent reasons to

773
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: go over there. I could, I could see a little more.

774
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: I was uptight to another kind of secondary betting area

775
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: that maybe there's something going on over there. But mostly

776
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: I was just kind of moving on a gut decision,

777
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: like just like I just gotta switch it up. Um.

778
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: So I snuck down and I just crept my way

779
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: over to this other standards one of those still days.

780
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Everything was really dry, it was really noisy. Um, but

781
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: I just I just took my sweet time. I probably

782
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: got down from that stand at like three thirty and

783
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I took probably half an hour or forty five minutes

784
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: to get eighty yards away to this other stand Um.

785
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: I wait until any little gust to wind to take

786
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: a step. But I just inched my way. And as

787
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: I'm going, I hear crash, crash, crash. A little buck

788
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: comes chasing a dog. I mean, so I dropped to

789
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: the ground. I'm stuck there for like ten minutes watching

790
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: them run around. They finally disappear. I finally get to

791
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: the tree. I get up in the tree as soon

792
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: as I get in the tree, before even getting my

793
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: stuff hung up. And ready here come three doughs past me.

794
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like plastered against the side of the tree, frozen,

795
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: trying not to move at all because they're literally righting

796
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: underneath me and right down wind to me. Um. And

797
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: they got you know, in the ozonic stream, and they

798
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: could tell there's something different. But they never really did

799
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: figure out what was going on, but there was enough

800
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: of something that they just kind of stood there looking around,

801
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Um. So I was stuck there

802
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, and the whole time thinking, oh jeez,

803
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: now it's almost prime time. It's almost five o'clock, the

804
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: final hour. What a stupid idea. I should never come

805
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: over here. Now I'm not even gonna, you know, be

806
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: set up before if something does come through, I'm still

807
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: got my bowl on the ground. Um. Well, finally they

808
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: move off and they start heading down this valley behind me,

809
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: and then a little buck comes and starts chasing them.

810
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: So now I get a little break in the action.

811
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm screwry to get all my stuff hung up. I

812
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: get all set camera gears up, like bows hung up,

813
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: got an narrow knocked, and um, it's just been a cluster,

814
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: just kind of a mess of an afternoon. I'm sitting

815
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: there kicking myself like I should just stay where I

816
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: was at, and um, you know again I'm thinking, what

817
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: an idiot. You just keep making these the wrong decisions.

818
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Things aren't going right. Um. And then I heard this,

819
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: this squirrel over to my right behind these thick seaters.

820
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: There's this kind of row of thick seaters just to

821
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: the right of where my stand was. And the stand

822
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: is is just inside of an inside corner of a

823
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: little finger of beans that kind of juts right into

824
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: the edge of a big ravine. Um. And there's a

825
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: betting ridge on the other side of the ravine, and

826
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of betting on the you know,

827
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: to the other adjacent side. UM. And I was kind

828
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: of in this little corner in between the two, and

829
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: I hear the squirrel. But you know, for two weeks,

830
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: I've been sitting almost all day every day, and you

831
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: hear half a million squirrels every day. And I don't

832
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: know about you, but you know, every time I hear one,

833
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's squirrel, but I better look. So I look,

834
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: and then of course it's a squirrel. And I just

835
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: get pissed more pissed every time I see one. So

836
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: so now I hear the squirrel, I'm like, stupid freaking squirrel.

837
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: I'm like a better check. So I look over there.

838
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Nothing and then I continued kind of fiddling getting my

839
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: stuff ready, and then I hear it again. Check. Still nothing.

840
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see through these trees. One more

841
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: time I hear it, but this time it had there

842
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: was like some weight behind it. It was a little

843
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: more than like the like the scratching of leaves. It

844
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: was like a weight. It was like the scratch of

845
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: leaves and like a hump. Just to look. I don't know,

846
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: just you can tell something's different. And I was like, Okay,

847
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: there's something going on here. So I really focus on

848
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: my attention there now, and I hear another step and

849
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: now finally, okay, yeah, that that's a deer. So I reached,

850
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: I grabbed my bow, and just as I'm grabbing start

851
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: to grab reach towards my bow, I see times come

852
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: out from behind this seater. And it was crazy because

853
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: really it never sounded like a deer was walking, never

854
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: sound like anything until it was right there. Literally, I

855
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: couldn't confirm it was a deer until he was twenty

856
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: yards away. Step these times stepping up behind the SAARs,

857
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: and it was one of those deals where instantaneously you know, instantly, new, Yep,

858
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: that's a shooter. I saw really long and thick G

859
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: two and G three's, and you know at this point

860
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: you're going into the season. I was like, all right,

861
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: I want to hold out for Glenn. I want to

862
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: hold out for at least, you know, one of these

863
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: top three bucks on the farm. But now how the

864
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: season has been going, I was feeling pretty down about stuffing.

865
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: At this point, I was like, you know what, if

866
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: a quality buck comes through, I'm taking it. So I

867
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: see quality buck and I don't even bother to look

868
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: at him again. All I did was reach and grabbed

869
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: that bow while he stepped behind a tree. I drew back.

870
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: He took one more step past this tree, and I released.

871
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean it happened like in less than five seconds,

872
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: and I literally didn't look at his head except for

873
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: the first glance when I saw yup shooter, and then

874
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: from there, just get the bow, get drawn, take an

875
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: extra second. I slowed down just a little more than

876
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: you usually do, which is good, and I pin wheeled

877
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: him right right behind the shoulder, heartshot him. This buck

878
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: runs off about forty yards, back, flips, crashes dead. So

879
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: at this point I'm just like, holy smokes, like it's

880
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: just been a debacle of the day. I just got

881
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: in the tree and boom, a nice buck comes in.

882
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: I got the shot he's dead right there. I can

883
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: see him. I kind of had a meltdown, um, just

884
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: from the madness of how quickly it happened. Um, but

885
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: he's down, so real. Long story short, I want to

886
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: get back to a couple of things that I think

887
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: led to that happening. But I know where you're I

888
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: know you know what happened. But at this point I

889
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't know what I had just done. I had just

890
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: thought I shot a hundred hundred thirty five inch maybe

891
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: ten point. I thought it was a quality buck, like

892
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I said, just briefly looked at the frame at the

893
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: times the shooter. So I go to walk up to

894
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: him to just make sure, you know, I was to

895
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: walk over. I was gonna set my coat on him

896
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: to make sure the coyotes didn't come to him, that

897
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna go back and grab my buddy and

898
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: then come back out later. Well, when I walk up

899
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: to him, I'm seeing the twos and threes again him like, Okay,

900
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: he's a nice eight point or sweet. And I come

901
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: around the corner and then I see this kind of

902
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: nubbing of a G four on the one side, and

903
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: that rung a bell of me because I stared at

904
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: these pictures of one of these deer that you know

905
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: was on my farm repeatedly, and then I looked down.

906
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: He's got a sticker off of his base, and my

907
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: jaw just dropped and I just stood frozen next to

908
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: this deer for like thirty seconds, not moving because I

909
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: had just killed Glenn. I I couldn't believe it. I

910
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: had no idea when I had done it, but I

911
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: had just killed my number one buck I've been after

912
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: that year about I've been after for three years. I

913
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: had missed him two years ago, and now, unbelievable, I

914
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: had just shot him and washed him, dropped forty yards

915
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: away from the free stand. Insane. He was an unbelievable deer,

916
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: five and a half year old, five and a half

917
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: year old, a rough scored sixty inches, just a stud

918
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: of a deer, and I had just kind of done

919
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: the unbelievable, the number one goal I had for the year.

920
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Somehow I just pulled it off after feeling like I

921
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't get it done for the last two weeks.

922
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: So I'm feeling pretty good right now. Dan, you should

923
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I was feeling good for you when when I was

924
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: a little piste. To be honest with you, that I

925
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: had to find out through face your co host had

926
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: to find out through Facebook or Instagram or wherever I

927
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: was looking that there was a bloody arrow. I didn't

928
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: text you the picture yet. No, you text me the picture,

929
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: but I had to ask for it. Sorry, I got, man,

930
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: I got, I got a hard time. My dad yelled

931
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: at me about the same thing earlier this year. He

932
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: didn't find out that I killed that Michigan buck till

933
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: like I think the next day because I texted him

934
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: that night. Um. But then I was okay because I

935
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: called my wife, I called my dad, I texted my

936
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: dad maybe and then you know, it's just chaos, Like

937
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: I get ahold of my hunting buddy who's there with me?

938
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: And then man, it was nuts. Well that's of stud

939
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: for sure. Man, congrats, thank you. It was. He's gonna

940
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: look good right over your bed. Yeah. I probably won't

941
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: be there, but that way, that way you can fall

942
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: asleep looking at him every night. I mean, that'd be cool.

943
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: But he's got a good spot reserved for him right

944
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: now in my kind of man cave area. Um. But

945
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: but you know, man, it's uh. I realized something the

946
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: other day that it's kind of unbelievable. And I do

947
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: not attribute this to me being some kind of great

948
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: hunter at all. I attribute this to being lucky and

949
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: learning some things as i've as I've come along. But

950
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I've killed my number one buck I've been after each

951
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: year the past three years. Three years ago six shooter,

952
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: who I had been, who I had three years of

953
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: history with. I got him with my muzzleloader in December

954
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: last year as a jawbreaker who had two years of

955
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: history with, and then this year Glenn three years UM.

956
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: And I started thinking like whoa, Like, how does that happen?

957
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: How did you actually pull that off? Um? And like

958
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, I've mostly just been very very fortunate,

959
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: very lucky things went my way. UM. But then I

960
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: started thinking about more, you know, not that I can.

961
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to claim at all like I'm

962
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: some kind of expert that did this exactly and I

963
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: knew it was going to go this way, and I

964
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: did it and it went just the way I planned.

965
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. UM. But I do think that

966
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: this is an example of something that are many of

967
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: the things that you and me talked about all the time. Um,

968
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, not that it wasn't that long ago that

969
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: I was just you know, starting to kill my first

970
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: bucks in Michigan because I hunt up in northern Michigan

971
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: and never killed anything. Um, and then I started killing

972
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: some little bucks. And then finally, you know, some number

973
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: of years ago, not that long ago, I decided, you

974
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start targeting mature bucks. And you know, it's

975
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: just a matter of immersing myself and its studying as

976
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: much as I can, learning from as many different people

977
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: as I can, and then just putting in the work

978
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and over.

979
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: And it's starting to manifest itself now with some of

980
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: these successes. And I think, you know, it's an old

981
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: adage that people say all the time, but um what

982
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: do they say? Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. I

983
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: think that these are instances where you know, eventually, if

984
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: you if you prepare enough and you do the right

985
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: things enough of the time, even though it won't work

986
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: out most of the time, eventually you will get lucky

987
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: and have a situation or situation or circumstance like this

988
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: present itself like that. Um. So I think this was

989
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: I got lucky, and I'm super super super fortunate, thankful

990
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: for it. Um. But I can point to a number

991
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: of little things that I'm not sure which one of

992
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: these little things actually lead to the success us. But

993
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: the fact that there's a lot of little things that

994
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: I've learned about over the years, or I've pushed myself

995
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: to try to do better each year, or whatever it

996
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: might be, that some combination all these little things, I

997
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: think maybe led to this opportunity. So I thought I

998
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: might walk through a couple of these damn, um, and

999
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: you tell me when I'm getting boring or when you

1000
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: want to know more. But I think that the two

1001
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: biggest things, if I had to look at the two

1002
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: biggest things that led to this kill and really to

1003
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: the last three years, what success I've had, it's paying

1004
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: attention to the little things and then just grinding it out,

1005
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, just putting in the time over and over

1006
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: and over, even when I don't want to be out there,

1007
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: even when I'm tired, even when I'm upset or frustrate

1008
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. Just kept on going and

1009
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: kept on sitting, and kept on trying and kept on working. Um.

1010
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: But little things, you know, utilizing your intel. You know,

1011
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: this is something we talked about all the time. I

1012
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: saw I got these trail camera pictures. I knew that

1013
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: Glenn was hitting this spot relatively consistently. And even though

1014
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen anything for those first three days, and

1015
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: even though my body wasn't saying anything, I trusted in

1016
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: the fact that this core area, if I sat it

1017
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: long enough, something could go right. And eventually it did.

1018
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: I was a little bit, I shifted, just a little bit,

1019
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: but I was still in that basic core area, and finally,

1020
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, it did pull off um number two I think,

1021
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: and this is a super intangible one that we talked

1022
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: about two and I can't really quantify what it means

1023
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: or how to know when to do it. But trusting

1024
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: your gut, you know, I mean, you talked about that

1025
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know how to tell when I'm

1026
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: trusting my gut and when that's the right thing to

1027
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: do versus when my intellectual analysis is the right thing

1028
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: to do. But I just decided, you know what, I

1029
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: just got that feeling and you gotta go with it,

1030
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 1: and it you know, this time, while maybe seven times

1031
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: ten it doesn't work out, this time it did. What

1032
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: that means, I don't know, Um, but maybe there is

1033
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: something to that. You know, we we talked, but I

1034
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: think with Adam Hayes, right, you just start to develop

1035
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: maybe some type of intuition happens, is that gut feeling

1036
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: and that intellectual understanding of how deer move or you know,

1037
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: deer hunting. The more time you spend in the tree,

1038
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: the closer those things get to each other. Very true,

1039
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: they emerge, They emerge. Yeah, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Um.

1040
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, it almost becomes subconscious. Then some

1041
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: of these decisions you make, um, which is that's like

1042
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: that's like the the top of the hill that I'm

1043
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: you know that we're trying to get to, right. Um,

1044
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: So I guess I look at this. Every time it

1045
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: does work out, you're getting your taking one more step

1046
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: up that hill. I suppose getting it figuring out just

1047
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: a little more. Um. You know another thing that I

1048
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: that maybe made a difference, maybe not, but just being

1049
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: careful with my access to that tree stand. You know

1050
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: in past years, back in the day, I probably would

1051
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: just I want to get to that tree stand. I

1052
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: want to get there now, and I'm just gonna trudge

1053
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: right there as fast as I can. If I had

1054
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: done that, maybe I wouldn't have seen Glenn. You know,

1055
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 1: maybe he was better at the end of that point

1056
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: for a little bit, or maybe he was cruising down

1057
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: the ridge and was on his way taking his sweet time. Um,

1058
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: you know he didn't. He showed up less than thirty

1059
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: minutes after I got in that tree. Um, So who's

1060
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: to say one of those small things. In the moment,

1061
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: I was like, gosh, this is the pain in the butt.

1062
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: But I know I gotta be quiet and try to

1063
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: get in here without spooking anything. And maybe that made

1064
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: a difference. Um. You know, maybe the fact that I

1065
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: had kept pressure on this property very very very low

1066
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: all throughout the season until I came back for the ruck,

1067
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: maybe that made a difference. You know. I went down

1068
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: there and hunted the first couple of days of this season,

1069
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: and then I didn't have the right weather conditions, um

1070
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: or different things that I wanted lined up to go

1071
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: back again. I was gonna go again during mid October,

1072
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: but the time firm I had to go once it

1073
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: showed up, the weather wasn't right, and I decided, you know,

1074
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna push it unless the conditions are right.

1075
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: So I didn't go down at all until November eight

1076
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: or seventh, or whatever it was. Um, maybe that made

1077
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: a difference. Maybe that helped keep some of these does there,

1078
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: which brought Glenn there. I don't know, but maybe one

1079
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: of these little things like that made a difference. Um,

1080
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: maybe it was just the focus, you know, after two

1081
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: weeks out there, having so many of these lousy, boring sets,

1082
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: especially the last like five six days before my kill,

1083
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: they were just dead. I didn't see a shooter for

1084
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen different sets straight. But finally, you know, even

1085
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: though I've seen a million squirrels, I pay attention to

1086
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: this one and kept checking and kept checking and low

1087
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: and behold, this squirrel was a buck. Um. So you know,

1088
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's a bunch of different, little, tiny things

1089
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: like that that I can't say that this is why

1090
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: I killed it. I can't say I had some perfect

1091
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: plan to kill him right there. But but the only

1092
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: thing I can take away from this, and that I

1093
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: kind of look at is my big takeaway from this

1094
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: season and this hunt is basically something within this, some

1095
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: little combination of all these little things I've been trying

1096
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: to get better at get paid off. And I just

1097
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: kept at it and I stuck with it, and I

1098
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: got that, you know, that one little tiny chance we

1099
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: get in and that could, you know, just as well

1100
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: have been you or anyone listening. You know, I got

1101
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: lucky that I actually dig that opportunity. But I think

1102
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: you have to do some of these little things right

1103
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: to get those opportunities. And I think our stories are

1104
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: are very similar. It's just the ending is different, right,

1105
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we both find it hard. I mean, granted

1106
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: we both had different circumstances, but for the most part,

1107
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: we played our cards the way we play are like

1108
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: we should have played our cards, and uh, it's just

1109
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: something very minimal that either tips in a in a

1110
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: positive or negative direction. Absolutely, And I guess that that's

1111
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: what brings me to the fact that it's just like

1112
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: a matter of just not giving up, right. I mean,

1113
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: it just as well could have been you as it

1114
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: was me. It just as well. You know, it's just

1115
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: if you just gotta put yourself out there, do as

1116
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: many of the things as you can possibly do right right,

1117
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: and then just stick with it, because you just need

1118
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: one little thing to tip your way. Um. And it's

1119
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: crazy how that you know, man, just that one you know,

1120
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: five seconds of my hunting season completely changed how my

1121
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: entire year is. You know how it feels now looking

1122
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: back on this past you know, eleven months of work

1123
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: in time and everything is totally different now in my

1124
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: head that this actually came together like that, and it

1125
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: was just because of five seconds of all those hours. Um.

1126
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: So man, I'm just very thankful that I got that opportunity.

1127
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm very I realized, I'm super blessed and fortunate that

1128
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I went that way. Um And you know, just was

1129
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to learn something and just try to

1130
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: get better. And I just can't wait to hear in

1131
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: the next podcast how you hopefully will have that little thing.

1132
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this

1133
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: the last podcast. You said by Wednesday, I will you know,

1134
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: we'll be hearing from you about the bucks. So don't

1135
00:59:54,080 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: jinx me, buddy. Yeah, I didn't work, but you know,

1136
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: I still faith I still got a little bit of

1137
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: time left and anything can happen. Season is not over.

1138
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Maybe my wife will say, you know what, why don't

1139
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: you take another weekend off? And I'll be like, what, Yeah,

1140
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The the last you know week

1141
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: ten days of November can be really good. Yep. So

1142
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of you know, I I hit a

1143
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: buck A whole long story, but you know I had

1144
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: a four year old hundred and sixty Class ten that

1145
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I hit and never found and he's still alive in

1146
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: in the area come through two years ago, so you know,

1147
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: I rattled him, and I feel I rattled him in

1148
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: although I couldn't see him. I blind rattled two years

1149
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: ago and uh like fifteen minutes later that he came in.

1150
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming he heard me and it was coming

1151
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: into that. But you know, right now, these you know,

1152
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: as of right now and towards the end of the

1153
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: UH and the November, they're breaking off does right now

1154
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna continue to search these betting

1155
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: areas for the last available dough for the next week.

1156
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: I would say, so there's there is still definitely time

1157
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: to to get get on a deer and you know,

1158
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: find a dough betting area right now and wait because

1159
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: these deer are breaking off from their last does and

1160
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a couple more laps through their through

1161
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: their area looking for you know, looking for that next

1162
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: or last available dough and this is the time and

1163
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: from from my past experience where the giants show up

1164
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Yeah, I hear that from so many

1165
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: people that just for whatever reason that maybe the supermature

1166
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: deer they know that there's still some action we had,

1167
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: so they really get after it here at the end.

1168
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: But I've heard from so many people, you know that

1169
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: those couple of days before Thanksgiving and after Thanksgiving that

1170
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: week give or take around there or whatever, can just

1171
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: be a great time to catch a cruising Still. So

1172
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: I I rattled in Jabbreaker two years ago on the

1173
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: November and then I saw Glenn the bucket killed. This year,

1174
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: I saw him twice during midday. All three of those

1175
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: encounters are during midday on novemb So something to keep

1176
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: in mind. It's it's worth putting in the time, right, So, Dan,

1177
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: anything else you want to know about Glenn, about my

1178
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: rut hunts, to anything else you want to say about

1179
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: your rutication or final thoughts. I want to know where

1180
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: you're going back to Iowa? Good question. Yes, I am

1181
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: planning on trying to still get it done in Iowa. UM,

1182
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because there's you know, as we

1183
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: talked about there's a bunch of guys out there, and

1184
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out where i can hunt

1185
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: without having other guys kind of screwing things. But I'm

1186
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna try. Um But historically people are taking the first

1187
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: and second weekend or first and second week of vacation

1188
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: to go deer hunt, and now that that's over, I

1189
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: have a feeling that you're going to have better luck

1190
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: on these farms just because people are going back to work. Yeah,

1191
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: that's I'm hoping that's some kind of banking on. UM.

1192
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: My only issue is that I've got some family obligations

1193
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: coming up here for the next almost you know, almost

1194
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: the rest of November. I'm kind of just locked down

1195
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: with family obligations. I've got the traditional Northern Michigan deer

1196
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: camp that I'm going to this weekend with family that

1197
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, is something that's important from a family perspective

1198
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: and great to be up there. So I'm going up

1199
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: there for the weekend, and then right after that, we've

1200
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: got Thanksgiving festivities with my family and my wife's family. UM,

1201
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: So the next potential date that I could get away

1202
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: would be like those couple of days after Thanksgiving. Before

1203
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: shotgun season. Um, so I'm hoping to swing out there

1204
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: for the final days of November. And when is your

1205
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: shotgun season? Is it December two or fifth? Or what

1206
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: Iscember five through? And then it's like, I think it's

1207
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks or something like that. So

1208
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna try get out there for as

1209
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: many days that possibly can between Thanksgiving and the start

1210
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: of shotgun season, which is five days. Yeah. So so

1211
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: basically I have that that chunk of time they're try

1212
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: to get it done. So we'll see. It'll be interesting.

1213
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: I've been super lucky so far, I guess, so maybe

1214
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: I can continue it and have best your ever. I

1215
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see. You never know. Anything can happen,

1216
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: So I guess I think that's everything we need. Dan.

1217
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: I think next week we're gonna have a good guest on.

1218
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: Since has just been you and me John for a

1219
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: while here, nobody wants to listen to that. I don't

1220
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: think anyone does. This is gonna be just like last week,

1221
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: the lowest ratings you've ever had. We'll get a guess

1222
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: on in the ratings of Go Mapped up. You can

1223
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: keep your sponsor. That's what the people want, so I

1224
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: should have a good up so for you guys. Next

1225
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: week we're gonna have a good story for you from

1226
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: Dan knock on wood. Um and you just jinx me

1227
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: again to Jinxes. Does that cancel out or does that

1228
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: make it double jink next year? It cancels. That's what

1229
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do here and cancel it out and uh.

1230
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: In other news, make sure to check out our two

1231
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: other podcasts, the White Tail Q and a podcast which

1232
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: is produced by me for Wired Hunt. I haven't been

1233
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: on there for the last couple of weeks, but we'll

1234
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: have new episodes this week too and next, so check

1235
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: that out, and then also check out Dan's new podcast,

1236
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: the nine Finger Chronicles podcast where he talks about gear.

1237
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: There's some cool stuff there. Please check those out, leave

1238
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: a rating or review on iTunes. We really appreciate that. Um. Also,

1239
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: there's new wired Hunt gear available at wired hunt dot

1240
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: com slash shop. I realized that we launched that new

1241
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: gear a couple of weeks ago, and this whole time

1242
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: the links to purchase have been wrong, so there's been

1243
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: some technical issues there, so check it out now. It

1244
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: should be a lot easier to make that purchase if

1245
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 1: you want to, new hats, new hoodies, stuff like that.

1246
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: Dance is in the mail right and yeah, and finally,

1247
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: of course, we want to thank our partners who helped

1248
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: make this podcast possible. So big thank you too, sick

1249
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: A Gear Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds, Huntera, Maps, Ozonics,

1250
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: Carbon Express, Lacrosse Boots, and the White Tail Institute of

1251
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: North America. But most importantly, as we do say every

1252
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: week and we really mean it, we want to thank

1253
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: you all for listening, for joining us here today. Man,

1254
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. So I hope that you guys have

1255
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: had an awesome rut so far. I hope these hunts

1256
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: have gone well, and if not, just keep at it,

1257
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: keep grinding, have a great week, and stay wired to hunt.