1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty six, episode 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: one of their Daily Nights the Podcast, where we take 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on googs? And 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: so she means it's Tuesday, January twenty two thousand nine. Team, 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien AK Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grag. Okay, now when I do this, this 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: is more of a concept a k A. Now this 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: was written by somebody. This is this is as if 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Alexandro Kazo Cortez, Racida Taib and Ayana Pressley are talking 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: about how they just got a pointed to the House 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Financial Services Committee And here we go to the tune 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: of release. So it takes an hour? Yes, here we go. 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Well we first stepped on the scene. Santris with the 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: dread fled back to the hill like they would be 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: and chased by home side all that style does you write, Maxine, 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: and it will never see You're wrong? Hey, now you 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: bitch as Republicans in d C. You are is all right? 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: What was that sound anyway, So thank you to Infinite 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Content s Sober the two one five for that one. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Because look, if there's any time I can do a 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: release your delf inspired a K, I will do it. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: The album is great because he has the fangs in 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: the grill grill, but like he can't really he's not 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: used to it. So he's well. We are thrilled to 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: be joined in art series. He by the host of 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: the Amazing podcast is Grace Land. Mr Jake Brenham. What's 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: up man? Here you doing guys, happy to be here. 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. It's all the way out 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: from uh do you say where you're from? Baston? Baston? Okay? Good, 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I think, yeah, from a non 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: disclosed location. All Right, we're gonna get to know you 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: about today. We're talking about the personality to on five 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: thirty eights website, supposedly scientific personality test. Miles and I 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: took it, and yeah, we'll just talk about our extremely 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: personal results reveal a lot of things about ourselves. Now 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about there's an article out from the 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: AP wondering if the dems twenty twy nominee is going 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: to be someone you've never heard of. So we're gonna 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: check in with who those people are. Make sure you've 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: heard of them so you don't feel stupid at a 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: cocktail parties. I don't know what you people do. Uh, 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the big story right now. Trump 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: allegedly instructed Michael Collen to do lies about Russia. Yeah, 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, as as people right are repeatedly pointing out. 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean this is from BuzzFeed, the people who published 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: the dossier, and that has been repeatedly corroborated. So we're 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about how the 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: richest one percent on fifty of the stocks held by 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: American households people are now assuming that a plane rash 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: or terror attack or food poisoning outbreak, we'll have to 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: end the shutdown, which is just very relaxing for those 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: of us who have to travel in the next week. 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: But Jake, first, we like to ask our guests, what 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is reeling about 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: who you are? How to succeed without being a complete 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: and total asshole. I'm like, wow, big questions for Google 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: going deep? What was the answer? There is no answer, right, 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: zero results. You ever see that in like movies when 63 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: like somebody does a search and it's like Google zero results. 64 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Like that's about how Google works, guys. They just suggest 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: something else. I mean, unless you're total like garbage gibberish, 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and then I'll be like, what the funk are you have? Not? 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: But okay, so you're trying, So you find you're finding 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: yourself torn between success and just wanting to like push 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: people down that you pass in the street. Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah, 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to like, you know, tamp down 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: my I just wanted to crush people. Yeah, but yeah, 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out, like, you know, is there 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: a roadmap? Like there's all these things like how to succeed, 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: but what happens if you actually get there? Not that 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm there or going there, but it's just a natural 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: intellectual curiosity that is important and I didn't want to 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: talk about that. And there you go too. Yeah, some 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: people have just been like, yeah, so I was looking 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: for this very specific and pornography. Do you guys ask 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: this question because you fear that in ten twenty years, 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: our search histories are going to be made available for 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: our children. Uh. Yeah, it's also like getting to know, 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: you think, getting you know what you don't know or 84 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: what's happening immediately in your life, Like people's curiosity is 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: a good question. But yeah, also that we're all you know, 86 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: Google is keeping a detailed record of us doomed. Yeah, 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: they'll be able to basically recreate us based on what 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: they know about just Google just has comfromat over the 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: entire universe. Like okay, well remember sure you want to 90 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: make that take of our privacy policies. Interesting, Um, what 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Marriage? Okay? Yeah, like 92 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: the convention of marriage? Like what, yeah, I mean you know, 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: my wife is my best friend. I know this. You 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: can sound totally traditional and maybe lame, but when I 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: became when I got married, they're sort of all those 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: conversations at the beginning of your life's over from all 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: your friends. You know, you're never going to be the same, 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and it's kind of been the opposite. It's not kind of, 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: it's totally been the opposite. So I thought long and 100 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: heard about this question, and I was like, you know, 101 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: as traditional as that sounds, that's that's about as honest 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: as I can get. Yeah, that's good, man. I don't 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: want to get married because for the same reasons, your 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: life is over, You're never gonna be the same. Miles 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: takes all life advice from his drinking buddies. Yeah, and 106 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: by that, it's my one friend who thought he was 107 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: going to go to Michigan for football and got hurt 108 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: and then that sort of informed his life. You ever since, 109 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: you know, I could have been in the league, right, anyway, 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: you don't get married. He's single, right, Yeah, And he's 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: keep asking if you can crash in my car, like 112 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: can I just sleep in there? Man? And I'm like, 113 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: your parents can take you, yeah, but my mom's stepmoms. 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, dude, I gotta go. But that's good 115 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: to know because I feel like a lot of people. 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: I mean, as I get older and and my relationship 117 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: goes longer, and I'm inevitably like, yeah, I probably should 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: get married, but I have, like, you know, just pass 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: bullshit in my life from like I don't know if 120 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm gonna get married, right, but I like 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the idea of being with somebody you know, for your life, 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: for your life partner. I guess it's it's like the 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: idea of marriage. I think maybe you know what it is. 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: I think it's the cost of a wedding that's put 125 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: in there. Oh, you can just do it. One of 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: the best weddings I've ever been to was just uh 127 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: my buddy went to City Hall in New York. We 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: just all showed up there and then went and partied 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: the whole night and it was a lot of fun. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: And then y'all picked up the bill. Yeah. Perfect. The 131 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: How was your wedding? Um, it was great. It was 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: it ranged, but it didn't matter. It was we get 133 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: married at my wife's aunt's house in her backyard. He 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: was pretty low key. Now was that ironic? Though? Basic? 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Based on the song right rain on your Wedding Days? Ironic? 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't see the aut The Queen Alanas Moore said, 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: as much as I should. She really is great though, 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: let's face yeah, yeah I might. I refer you to 139 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: the Book of Jagged Little Pill. Um. How long you've 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: been married? Seven years? Okay? Yeah, so you're you're at 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the point where you can confidently say marriage marriage is great? Yes? Uh, 142 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: like you like yeah, three months. We just got back 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: from Bali. Man, still ride that high A good feeling. Yeah, 144 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I just feel really good about this. Yeah. Our surf 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: teacher was so cool. My wife was really into him. 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: He was a really cool guy, Like he was taking 147 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: her out for like other surf fifth. So I was 148 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: just relaxed by myself. Yeah, man, I love anyway, What 149 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: is up that you think is overrated? Hamilton's. Hamilton's reminds 150 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: me of I don't know how old you guys are, 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: but if you remember, sort of like when hip hop 152 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of really broke into the mainstream, So like late eighties, 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: all the sitcom Dad's all of a sudden would have 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: a rap in the show and you'd start of see 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: like the Dad on Growing Pains or Bill Cosby, and 156 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: it was just the lamest, whitest thing you could possibly hear. 157 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: That's what Hamilton's sounds like to me. The actual And 158 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: I would say nothing about the story. I haven't seen it, 159 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: but I've seen you know, I've seen enough clips of 160 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: the actual music, and it's just like this redundant, repetitive, 161 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: lack of soul sounding thing to me. So do you 162 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: like musicals in general? I don't like music like at all. 163 00:08:53,640 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: Just damn, just it's weird. There's like he's weird noises 164 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: behind him while he's trying to talk. I just want 165 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: to hear the words. Don't talking and why do they rhyme? 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Um No, I'm not a big musical fan, 167 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: but you know, I can appreciate it, you know, like 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: I've watched by by Bertie like like I get it. 169 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, just not the not not not riding 170 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: for Hamilton's. I've never seen Hamilton's and I don't like 171 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: and everyone I know it's like, yeah, my god, it's 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: so good, it's so good. But also I just don't 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: like musicals so or not that I don't like them. 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: They don't appeal to me. Uh and I think for 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the kind of same way, like just somehow breaking out 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: into song and dance like I don't know where. It 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: just feels a little trite, but look not Yeah, but 178 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh sure obviously have not been hanging around 179 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: my household because that is still how we conduct our 180 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: daily business. I mean the song and dance. I mean 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: I love music man though you know what I mean? 182 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: What's music man? Oh Man seventy six strum bones you 183 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know. Oh, man, yeah, 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea the school. Yeah music, man is 185 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: a musical. That's that's far. That's all I know. And 186 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: that's what I used to say in college to look 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: like I like musicals. Okay, oh you know what I 188 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: like Greece. The movie That's a Whiz is cool. Yeah, man, 189 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: what the man? I don't think. I then I do 190 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: like musicals. I like very specific musical blues brothers now 191 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: that I think about it is a musical they break 192 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: out in song. Yeah, well we just I just stepped 193 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: on my own, dick. I think, I think. I think 194 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: what you said is you like good musicals. Oh yeah, 195 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I guess I'll have to see. Maybe all this to 196 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: say is I'm put off by the cost and how 197 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: hard it is get tickets to Hamilton's. So look, if 198 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: somebody has the wild hook up, then yeah, like great, 199 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I'll be your plus one could take me. I think 200 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Hamilton's good. Moving on to yeah, look at you. Maybe 201 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It just seems so exclusive. That's 202 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: part of I think partially feeding my like like, I'm 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: not feeling it, but I knew all the words before 204 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: I saw it. Because of the soundtrack, because the soundtrack 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: is like, if you're thinking about spending the money, listen 206 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: to the soundtrack because it's the whole thing. There's like 207 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: nothing that is not wrapped, so you hear the entire story. 208 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: And uh, if you like this soundtrack thing and like 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: the musical, but if you don't, yeah, don't don't spend 210 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: the money. What is a myth? What's something people think 211 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: is true? You know to be false? That the Russian 212 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: of his investigation as a witch hunt. Okay, and that 213 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,239 Speaker 1: sounds like something you guys go deep on. Yeah, well occasionally, 214 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, but never to a But I've been saying 215 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: more specifically, I can put a final point on it, 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: because you could go in a million different directions on 217 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: this huge subject. But this idea that the new Attorney 218 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: General Bar is going to be in the bag for 219 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the president, I think it's actually the exact opposite. I 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: think Bar is an instrument of Rosenstein and Maller, and 221 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: I think that memo he wrote was written on purpose 222 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: to get the job and to get in there and 223 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: provide a sake or like Bar, despite what you think 224 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: of his politics as an old boy blue blood Washington, 225 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: d C. Guy, just like Muller, just like Rosenstein, And 226 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: they knew that Sessions was leaving months and months and 227 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: months ago, and they had to have been gaming this out. 228 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: So my prediction is that he's he will be the downfall, 229 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: he will be the stop gap when this, when the 230 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: ship hits the face, he gets to be the hero. Yeah, 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and for from him selfishly from his point nine years old. 232 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: He kind of said it his confirmation here. He doesn't 233 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: give funk. He's there and he probably saw this as 234 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: a role. Well, I can actually do something good here actually, 235 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: and his history will look kindly on me. So the 236 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: idea that he's there because he believes an absolute executive 237 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: privilege journey that I think that's crap. I think that 238 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: was for him to get the job. He'll be like, 239 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: if I do this, they'll forget that I told Bush 240 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: to partner all those people and the regularistration. They'll forget 241 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: that I wrote the book on masson carceration, all these 242 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: other things before. Yeah, yeah, kind of yeah, that nobody's 243 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: mentioning that Russia. Now Yeah, alright, guys, let's talk about 244 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: personality tests. Have you guys ever taken personality tests before 245 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: I made you take this one less Yeah, the Myers 246 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: Briggs one, like you know BuzzFeed things like which power 247 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: ranger are you? Ye? Blue ranger? Nice nice man? Uh 248 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: No personality to I don't know. When I was like 249 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: six or seventh grade, the guidance counselor gave you a 250 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: test to figure out what we're going to do for 251 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: a living. And I don't know what my result was, 252 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: but basically the response was you're never going to have 253 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: a boss, which kind of messed with me as a kid. Um, 254 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: I don't know what that says about my personality, but 255 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm a prick. You're like, you're fired from every job 256 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: you had early on. You're like, you're not my fucking boss, Rick, 257 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: You're like the manager Rick. Everybody has to have a 258 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: boss named Rick. At uncle it was a little too handsy. 259 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: What has that held up? Have you never had a boss? Um? No, 260 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: I've had a boss. How that relationship go? Um? He's 261 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: in the back here. I hired him for the podcast. 262 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm joking. So this is making a big claim here. 263 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: They say most personality quizzes or personality tests are bunk. 264 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Try one that's actually scientific and the things that are 265 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of judges your personality based on our openness to experience, agreeableness, conscientiousness, 266 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: which is does not mean what I thought it meant 267 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: in this context negative emotionality and extra version, which yeah, 268 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Myers Briggs I think has the extra version thing and 269 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: it has like different but they're trying to more put 270 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: you in a bucket. I think that's what this is, 271 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: like the Myers Briggs like you are this kind of person, 272 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: you are the explorer or you are the whatever, And 273 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: this is more like, here's how you rate in these 274 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: five dimensions. And I think maybe that's probably an easier 275 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: way because they acknowledge, like you can't just lump, you 276 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: can't just put people in buckets so cleanly. Yeah, you 277 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: just have a score of one to a hundred on 278 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: all of these different continuums. And that seems like a 279 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: more accurate way than being like you are a baller, 280 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: you are a worker bee like, well, I don't know, 281 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: you have boss mentality. Wait, yours didn't say that you're 282 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: a baller because my mind mind said terminal ballerness. So 283 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm terminally ballingalding. That's so weird that they called that 284 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: has nothing to do damn it. I knew one was 285 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: like do you wear hats all the time? I was like, yes, yeah. 286 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: And Myers Briggs, which I think a lot of people 287 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: have taken, has been widely debunked, and so I think 288 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: this five thirty eight survey is acknowledging that, and acknowledging 289 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: that a lot of other personality tests have been debunked, 290 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: and that this one is not as flashy. But it 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: also does seem to have like some sort of indicator 292 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: of the type of person that you are. But yeah, 293 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean we scored pretty similarly in a lot of categories. 294 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Categories I scored the lowest in negative emotionality twenty one 295 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: out of a hundred. Yeah, well, I think I was 296 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: in the twenties as well. So what does that mean 297 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: negative emotionality? So they say low negative emotionality. People who 298 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: score on the higher end of this trait are plagued 299 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: by anxiety, sadness, anger, and conflict. But not you. You 300 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: whistle while you work, even if the rest of the 301 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: office is glaring into their fourth cup of coffee. There's 302 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: such a thing as to be too cheerful, because sadness 303 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and anxiety or things that help us learn from our mistakes. 304 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: But low negative emotionality is generally associated with good things, 305 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, job satisfaction, things like that. There's another side 306 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: of that coin, like Abe Lincoln was a terminally depressed person. 307 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: He had chronic depression, and I read a book that 308 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: speculated that his depression actually made him a better leader, 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: because they've found that people who are depressed are actually 310 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: in closer touch with reality, and so they're more willing 311 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: to acknowledge, like negati of things around them, whereas people 312 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: like me, who scored twenty five out of a hundred 313 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: on negative emotionality, we have to block out things and 314 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: so we're just not So basically, it's good to have 315 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: somebody who is high on negative emotionality to keep you 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: aware of the negative things going on. You know. Interesting, 317 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think, but even as you say that, 318 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I do the opposite, Like I don't try and block 319 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: things out. Like if something bad is occurring, it's like 320 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: a binary choice to either accept the reality of the 321 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: situation or resist it by being in denial about it. 322 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: So I think by accepting whatever reality is helps me 323 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: to not be so jarred. But I'm like, okay, well 324 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: that's happening, so that's what it is. Now, let me 325 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: just maneuver. Now you can't resist it. It's gonna find 326 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: its way into exactly somehow and you're gonna have to 327 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: deal with it. Yeah, you you burn more energy trying 328 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: to be like like, Okay, what's up. Then let's figure 329 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: this out. Yeah. Something I saw the like where this 330 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: test immediately jumped into my mind while going through last 331 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: week headlines was openness to experience, which Miles and I scored, 332 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: like really scored a high. Miles scored a hundred. I 333 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: got a ninety six, which is esthetic sensitivity, intellectual curiosity, 334 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: creative imagination. And they say that, uh, you know, you're 335 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: basically motivated by new experiences, and like a danger is 336 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 1: that you might like abuse drugs or use, like end 337 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: up with a substance use disorder. So people in trying 338 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: to debunk this report about Trump telling Cohen to lie 339 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: about Russia, one of the reporters had been shamed in 340 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: the past because he like lied or like did some 341 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: shady things journalistically, the BuzzFeed News reporter, and he was 342 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: explaining that, like, he used to be a drug user 343 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: and has since gotten sober, but he's like he basically 344 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: described it as being part of the same thing he 345 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: was like, I love the score. So maybe there's this 346 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: druggish thing in me that still exists. Maybe that was 347 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: always part of my personality. I love the score. I 348 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: love the score, particularly when it's from the government. I 349 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: just got you to give me your own documents, you know, 350 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: which is like he crawled back to respectability using like foya, 351 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, and so I'm just hooked on Freedom of 352 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: Information Act. Yeah, but that's one of the things. The 353 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: two sides of the coin of openness to experience that 354 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: they list are like dangerous drugs on the bad side 355 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: versus like being a really good investigative journalist or lawyer. 356 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm right, you are the best best. Yeah. So other 357 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: categories agreeableness, which is pretty self explanatory. Conscientiousness is more 358 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: just like being aware of your surroundings, being productive, responsible, 359 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: and organized, which it's not like, scored not too high 360 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, and then extra version is where 361 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: we really were different, right, Yeah. I scored seventy nine 362 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: and I scored thirty eight, so that balances out, you know, yeah, 363 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: exactly together together it's a hundred and seven. Were off 364 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the charts. But yeah, so I don't know, take it. 365 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's interesting to take and then when 366 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: you actually read through, I'm like, there were more, like 367 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: more than other ones. I'm like, that's a pretty good 368 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: description of how I see things or whatever. But so 369 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: when they test what's that thing called the Q rating 370 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: where they test the likability of stars, where they ask 371 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: other people basically giving a personality tests for a third 372 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: party to the public, right familiarity and things like that, 373 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: I wonder how those questions exactly. Wonder how those questions 374 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: line up with Yeah, that's interesting. The public always a 375 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: good judge of character. For instance, Bill Cosby was the 376 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: most trusted man in America up until like two thousand 377 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: and seven. It's like, yo, what were we doing? All right, 378 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And 379 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: we're back, And there's an AP article out asking the question, 380 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: will the Dems nominate someone you've never heard of? What 381 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: what are the chances of that? They list Julian Castro, 382 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbert, and then they have Eric Swalwell of California, 383 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: and they list Beto or for some reason, I guess 384 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: people you hadn't heard of two years ago. Yeah, and 385 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: then Pete Buddha Edge is the uh. I don't even 386 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: know if I'm pronouncing his name right, but Pete Buddha 387 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: j Edge is kind of the first person I talked about. 388 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: He is a decorated Navy veteran who was was elected 389 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: mayor of South Bend, Indiana when he was twenties twenty nine. 390 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I think he's thirty six. He's just over the limit 391 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: to be old enough to run, but he's openly a 392 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Rhodes scholar, decorated Navy veteran, and he's pretty compelling. Dude. 393 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I've known about him for a couple of years, but 394 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: he's definitely worth checking out. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. 395 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: I mean Tulsi Gavitt. I'm still really kind of shocked 396 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: that she threw her hat out because she has like 397 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: a real pensiant for embracing a strong man dictator. I 398 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know anything about her except that Steve Bannon was 399 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: into her, yeah, and she was like, guys, I think 400 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: Assad is pretty cool. Like essentially she's like an Assad 401 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: stand which is very odd. And then she was also 402 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: had like a ton of anti LGBT stuff, which she 403 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: has since like cleared up and been like my dad 404 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: was basically like she sort of said, my dad, he 405 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: was into all that wacky shit. But she but she 406 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: but then she tried to walk that back. The way 407 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: she's disavowed it is by saying that she doesn't think 408 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: the government should dictate those sorts of things, which still 409 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: is like, but your personal what do you think? Well, 410 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: she said, I what, I've changed a lot, and I 411 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: thank people for helping me grow or whatever. But you 412 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: know again, but you know, it's early days, so we're 413 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: seeing all kinds of people jump in. But I think, yeah, 414 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's a lot of dimensions to I think 415 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: how the Democrats think they might be able to win 416 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: the White House back, like whether fielding female Canada is 417 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: good because clearly, like women are like much more engaged 418 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: than men are in politics right now, if they're going 419 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: to try and consider that as some kind of force multiplier. 420 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: But I don't, I don't know. I mean, it's gonna 421 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: be interesting because I feel like the base is going 422 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: to move towards a female and in someone of color ideally, 423 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: but I feel like if you're just looking at them 424 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: all objectively, like policy aside better or Rouric is the 425 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: most skilled politically to me, like just to his like 426 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: retail politics thing. So it's gonna be interesting to see, like, 427 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: if the momentum catches up behind someone else, how will 428 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: political skill actually combat that or trumpet right right in 429 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: a field of candidates or whatever it is. Yeah, and 430 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: we'll also see how Better does as a national figure, 431 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: because you know, we have fairly limited experience with him 432 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: in that role. Yeah, who's posting about he's all emo 433 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? He he was in a hardcore band. Yeah, exactly, 434 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: foss Yeah, I mean you can see it in his 435 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: stage presence, like literally he parades the stage with his 436 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: mic like he's like leading ridge against machine or something. 437 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: I do wonder how that translates because we are now 438 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: we we can no longer claim that we haven't had 439 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: a completely emotionally unstable president of the United States. But 440 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: I do wonder if you know, going from angry to 441 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: super confident scans as more presidential than going from competent 442 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: to down in the dumps like that, just like not 443 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: not saying that that should scan one way or the other. 444 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure and servatives will jump on that. I mean, look, 445 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: he's he's a human being who has emotions that fluctuate. 446 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: Here's a question who do you think is gonna be 447 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: the Republican nominee for real? That brings us to our 448 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: next story. I mean, yeah, who setting you up? Jack? 449 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: John Kasik? Who or no? Who is it? No? Trump? 450 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it? Just it's gonna be Nicky Haley. You think 451 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: that's my money? Yeah, Nicky Haley is going to get 452 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: caught up in this. Uh yeah, because he was the 453 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: head of the transition exactly. A lot of people say, 454 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: like Larry Hogan, who's the mayor or the governor of Maryland? 455 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I would like to him our governor in Massachusetts is 456 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: the most popular governor in the country approval Republican in 457 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: a highly democratic state, which is insane, Like he can't 458 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: do anything without Charlie Baker. Charlie Baker, what was it was? 459 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: What was Romney's numbers? Like um Romney, I don't know 460 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: what his numbers were, but he always kind of had 461 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: the His rep has been the same like Waffle will 462 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: do anything, you know, like just put your finger in 463 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: a win to find out where his politics are. And 464 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: I think he kind of got elected because of the 465 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: sort of tactician nature of what he could do. He's 466 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: a competent business guy and I think that's why people 467 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: elected him. I'm still kind of shocked that they elected him. Right, 468 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: he tried unseating Kennedy for the Senate seating, he lost there, 469 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: and then he won the governor Right. Well, I will 470 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: state the unpopular opinion that Trump is undefeatable and invincible 471 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: and it's just keep powering through. Do you believe that 472 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: or you? I worry that I tend to be in 473 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: competitive things. I tend to be very pessimistic. Don't you 474 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: see it cracking now though, like with the support, But 475 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: I've seen it cracking for years and nothing has been 476 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: able to unseat him from his like kind of base 477 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: that protects him. Yeah, and we're actually in San Francisco. 478 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: It's Miles and Jack. You want me to say, Yeah, 479 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: it's Miles. Yes, that's me. Hi. Yeah, we just just 480 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: shelled the show, crushed it, bro. Yeah, but we realized 481 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: the news has changed the last few days, and the 482 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: following section of the show we may have to ignore 483 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: or possibly I don't know. I don't think you have 484 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: to ignore it. I think a lot of what we 485 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: say is still valid. But let's tell people would Okay, 486 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: So we're about to talk about the BuzzFeed report uh 487 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: that stated that Michael Cohen had lied to Congress at 488 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: President Trump's direction, that Trump had specifically directed him to lie, 489 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And then after we recorded what you're about to hear, 490 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel's office came out and said specifically that 491 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: that hadn't happened. I'm gonna read their refutation word for word. 492 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: They said, Buzzfeeds description of specific statements to the Special 493 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by 494 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: this office regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate. 495 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: And BuzzFeed then shot back and said, we stand by 496 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: our reporting and the sources who informed it, and we 497 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: urged the Special Special Counsel to make clear what he's disputing. 498 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: So BuzzFeed's response seems to suggest something that jumped out 499 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: to me about the Special Counsel's statement, which seems to 500 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: be that they're mostly disputing specific statements like wording and 501 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: characterization of how the Special Counsel confirmed that detail. So 502 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: it does seem like maybe they're getting into the weeds 503 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: with regards to, you know, specific details, but the facts 504 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: could remain the same that Cohen was directed to lie 505 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: by the president. Yeah, I mean on some level, it's 506 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to think that Michael Cohen's lying 507 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't have some level of cordon Asian with the administration. Yeah. 508 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: And I mean unless he's just you know, like like 509 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: a legit criminal, which he is, and he's just never 510 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: going to tell the truth. Like that's just sort of 511 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: how you know, the code of the criminal to be like, 512 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to air him out. But yeah, I think, yeah, 513 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: there's you know, especially the pushback from BuzzFeed to like 514 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: they're doubling down and being like, no, we still stand 515 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: by this, like our reporting is solid. I don't know 516 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: if they're just doing that because they don't want to 517 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: avoid just looking totally foolish, right, I mean, it makes 518 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: sense they went out on a very uh far ledge 519 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: on this one, a very far branch, and you know 520 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: they might be out over their skis as the as 521 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: the saying goes, Um his Ski dad say, yeah, Ski 522 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: Dad says At the same time, I think, you know, 523 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: the conversation that you're about to hear is about what 524 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: would be true if the BuzzFeed report is true, which 525 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: I still think there is a chance it is. Um 526 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: it's just we don't know, you know, what specifically the 527 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: special counsel is saying is or isn't true. We don't 528 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: know if they're pissed because the BuzzFeed story is, you know, 529 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: messing with some specific aspect of some piece of information 530 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to corroborate. They don't want we don't know, 531 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: or they don't want to have their hand shown to 532 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: the world because maybe they're trying to make a play 533 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: without having the administration knowing they know this stuff, because 534 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: like we said, as you'll hear, that would be massively 535 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: terrible for the administration because that's like the most concrete 536 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: form of obstruction. So either way, it's a mess. BuzzFeed, 537 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: you burned us, Uh, you burned me, BuzzFeed. But at 538 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: the same time, as you were pointing out, Woodward and 539 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: Bernstein sucked up. Yeah, they also funked up early on, 540 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: and it nearly derailed the Watergate investigation because the Nixon 541 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: administration jumped on them the second they found out like 542 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: there were some details about their reporting that wasn't right, 543 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: and they used that to try and shift the public 544 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: opinion of this whole investigation, and it nearly did work. 545 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: But washing the Washington Post. They did a good job 546 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: of sort of identifying what went wrong, making sure it 547 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen again, and and sort of like letting people 548 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: know where where things went wacky. Yes, so you know, again, 549 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: as we've seen since that Mueller's statement has come out, 550 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: everybody in Trump world has used that to jump on BuzzFeed. 551 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: But like you say in the thing, you know, the 552 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: guy one of the right, one of the journalists, has 553 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: had a few oopsies before journalistically, So I think, you know, 554 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a version where what the what 555 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: the Special Counsel's office is saying is true. And then 556 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: there's also a version where maybe they were a little 557 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: over zealous and like characterizing certain details. But again, I 558 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: think just take this with a grain of salt, and 559 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: we'll just use this as a thought exercise into a 560 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: hypothetical situation which has a very high likelihood of being 561 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: somewhere near the truth. All Right, guys, I have a 562 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: trolley to catch to Seroni uh Ry Serrooni Restaurants, so 563 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: we gotta go, but uh, enjoy enjoy the still a 564 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: great conversation. Uh, and thanks to all the gang who 565 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: came and hung out last night. The live show is 566 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: so much fun. Yeah, you gotta you gotta catch the 567 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: next one if you didn't catch this one. All right, guys, enjoy. Well, 568 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that guy. Uh uh. He allegedly 569 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: instructed Michael Cohen too lie about Russia, lie about the Hey, 570 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: we were never doing business with Russia during the campaign, 571 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, saying oh, like that was nothing, you know, 572 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: we don't I mean, it was a thing we talked 573 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: about and it was really nothing, So don't worry about that. 574 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: Nothing really happened. And that was the lie that he 575 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: copped to. So BuzzFeed has a report that says they 576 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: after speaking with people who are in the Special Council 577 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: investigation or people around it who have heard Michael Cohen's 578 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: testimony and things like that, to Robert Mulley, they're like, oh, 579 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, Trump told him to lie about it. And 580 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: also Robert Muller has plenty of evidence to back this up, 581 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: whether it's through emails and other like documents where everyone's 582 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: hands are on it, where it's clear to be like 583 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump instructed him to lie to Congress about all 584 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: of this to obscure the facts and to throw the 585 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: investigation off a little bit. Yeah, I think we're discounting 586 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: the fact that whatever Trump's political instincts maybe that have 587 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: gotten him to this point and help him to stay 588 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: teflon when you get down to it, he's not a 589 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: smart guy, right when it comes out of skirting authority, 590 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: He's just this isn't New York real estate. And that's 591 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: how he's treating it, where he can just lean on 592 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: a guy who works for him to go and live 593 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: for him, to congress and perjure himself is I mean, 594 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: he's the exact type of guy who would leave a 595 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: paper trail, or leave an email trail, or talk to 596 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: somebody on a hot mic and not know about it. 597 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: So I think we're going to see a ton of 598 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: physical evidence that we're we're just not even thinking about 599 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, this this would be evidence of obstruction though, right, 600 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: has been the thing like, that's not it's not collusion, 601 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: which is the main thing that he said all along. 602 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: So it's still not the the thing, right, it's still 603 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: not the stake in the well. It all depends. I mean, 604 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: the Russia investigation is also about obstruction. It's the same thing. 605 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: What if the obstruction is the collusion, right, you guys 606 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: up on this exa and just the very fact that 607 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Russia interfered in the election. And then he gets in 608 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: and they're like, well, you gotta obstruct this for us, 609 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: Like that is collusion. How to cover our backs because 610 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: what you want to you know, we have the thing 611 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: over your head too that we can do. And I 612 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: think that's what makes this revelation if true okay, because 613 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: we're we pretend to be journalists on this show. Um 614 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: that if it is the case, then that is like 615 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: exponentially worse than any Watergate funk. Really like what the 616 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: the opponents are talking about. We're talking about opening up 617 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: like administration officials to actually being blackmailed by Russia. Also 618 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: changing policy right ring from Syria announcing that ISIS is 619 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: over and a week later four American soldiers are dead 620 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: because of it. Like this is just insane. We're trying 621 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, fuck NATO. We don't need NATO, 622 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: like really the thing everything that Putin wants or even 623 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: just like with the sanctions that are going to be 624 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: lifted on old dearra Pasca's companies, like everyone was like, 625 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Go ahead and invade Montenegro. 626 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: What the hell was that? Right? Like, who told you 627 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: about that? How do you even know that's a country. 628 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: I did read a centrist account of the lifting of 629 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: the sanctions saying that there was a lot of European 630 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: nations pressuring the US to do that because it had 631 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: fucked with the European economy quite a bit, the sanctions 632 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: that we had put on der Pasco. So but yeah, 633 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: the Montenegro thing doesn't make any sense. And also I'm 634 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: not like a Trump supporter, I'm just trying to play 635 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: the devil's advicar. No, no, absolutely, And of course, and 636 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, having those kinds of sanctions on any business 637 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: entity has a knock on effect on anyone else who 638 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: is you know, not have anything to do with that. 639 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: But you know, the thing that I've heard Trump supporters 640 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: say is, oh, BuzzFeed News. These are people who reported 641 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: the um dossier, and that's not been corroborated. And I 642 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: just I think that BuzzFeed News is actually they've been 643 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: the ones who have broken details about the MULA report, 644 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: like months before it's released to the rest of the media. 645 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: So BuzzFeed News actually would be the outlet that you 646 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: would probably have the most faith in when it comes 647 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: to breaking details about what's happening in Louise mention, you 648 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: know what you guys did, Have you discounted her? Kind 649 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: of yeah, but I don't understand why. I don't understand why, 650 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: because it's the same thing. It's like six seven months ago, 651 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: she's reporting these incredibly salacious things like Michael Cohen and Prague, 652 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: and you're starting to see these things come to fruition 653 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: in the mainstream press. Yeah. No, there are definitely things 654 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: that I think we're discounted from her. I think there 655 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: are also things that she said that we're out there, 656 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: but I don't have specific details to back that up. 657 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: So one thing about the attacks about this article have 658 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: been Yes, BuzzFeed they printed the steel docier New King, 659 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: which was like it's been debunked and discredited. Again, not 660 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: not a single thing has actually been debunkedly been things 661 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: that have been yet confirmed and corroborated. Also, the other 662 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: tactics like Michael Cohen's a liar, you're gonna believe this guy. 663 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: They never said in the in the article that their 664 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: source was Michael Cohen. Their sources are people in the 665 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Special Counsel's office and people that are working on this investigation. 666 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: So it's not that's like such a fucking weird misdirection. Um, 667 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's effective, and I can get you a 668 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: great deal in the Brooklyn Bridge. That was Julian and 669 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: I would love to and be like, all right, then 670 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: give me a deal in the Brooklyn Bridge. Yeah, and 671 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: he's like okay, ship. But the reporter has said that 672 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: Cohen wasn't a source for the story, let alone the 673 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: source for the story. He's not even one of their sources. 674 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: They're going off of things that the Mueller investigating. And 675 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly this is patently false, this report in 676 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed because when uh was Hogan Gidley, Uh, the deputy 677 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: Press secretary for the White House, he went on Fox 678 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: and Friends to to just totally deny all these accusations 679 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: and just listen to the confidence in this man's voice 680 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: and his unequivalent like the way he answers makes me 681 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: sort of believe in the White House. Again, let's just 682 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: hear this. This is just another and ridiculous charges without 683 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: any corroboration. Did not tell Michael Cohen to do that. 684 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, this is exactly why the 685 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: President refuses to give any credence or credibility to news 686 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: outlets because they have no ability to corroborate anything they're 687 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: putting out there. Instead, they're just using innu window. And 688 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: that was not a denial of my question, no, but 689 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: but but the premise is ridiculous. Dude, can't even lie. 690 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, look, man, don't don't make it 691 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: hot for me. I can't lie. Now, go to Joe 692 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: that was on Fox and Friends. That was on Fox. Yeah, 693 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends is fucking sticking it too, because I 694 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: think at some point to like they as much as 695 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: they like to troll and ship and like, I don't know, 696 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: it's weird attain there are certain things that people on 697 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: Fox are not willing to do. Like suddenly like Judge 698 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: Napolitano is acting like he knows the law. But yeah, 699 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: it just shows you Like it's like you're saying, Jake, 700 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: like there's even what you normally Fox have been like, yeah, 701 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: there's total bullshit whatever, blah blah blah. Like even the 702 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: fucking anchors are like that was They're not even being like, Okay, 703 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: thanks for that, and now our story are whales having 704 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: sex with our children? You know what I mean, Like, 705 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: it's how they would normally do it, but now they're 706 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: like pressing people in the White House to be like 707 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: that's not an answer. Yeah, that seems like a total shift. 708 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? Because they're totally ratings driven, 709 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, like they know their their audience is riding 710 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: for Trump, so there must be some data they're getting 711 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: that is pointing them, is giving them the Okay, think 712 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: it's the popularity ratings of Trump that they're seeing that 713 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: he he's becoming less popular because of the shutdown, And 714 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: I think that has to figure into how they go 715 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: into these interviews. And you know, I don't think it 716 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: can be just the shutdown, right, but yeah, and Sir 717 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: prews er Dona Josane was pointing out that directing people 718 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: to live for him was one of the first articles 719 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: of impeachment or the first article of impeachment for Richard Nixon, 720 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: who did get in trouble. I think in the end 721 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: if well, yeah, but now Democrats are pissed about this, 722 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: this reporting, and they're like they're like, look, Trump resign 723 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: or be impeached. Now, sure they're always going to say that, 724 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: but like to your point about William Barr. It's interesting 725 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: because earlier last or last week, when he was during 726 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: his confirmation hearings, he was being asked directly about this 727 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: kind of behavior from the president. So allow me to 728 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: play a clip of Amy Klobuchar trying to get William 729 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: Are to articulate what he believed obstruction of justice was. 730 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: You wrote on page one that a president persuading a 731 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: person to commit perjury would be obstruction. Is that right? Yes? Okay? 732 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: Or any any well, you know, any person who persuades 733 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: another okay. You also said that a president or any 734 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: person convincing a witness to change testimony would be obstruction. 735 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes? Okay? And on page two you 736 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: said that a president deliberately impairing the integrity or availability 737 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: of evidence would be an instruction. Is that correct? Yes? Okay? 738 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: And you wrote on page one that if a president 739 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: knowingly destroys or alters evidence, that would be obstruction. Yes. 740 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: So what hasn't drafted a misleading statement to conceal the 741 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: purpose of a meeting? Would that be obstruction? Again? You know, 742 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: I'd have to know that, I'd have to know this specific. 743 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: I got too specific for you said, you're talking about 744 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: that oh the Russian not I was asking the question 745 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: whether she like had a like, whether whether BuzzFeed News 746 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: tipped her off. But you were saying that. Lindsay Graham 747 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: also was kind of even Lindsay Graham is pushing him 748 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: for the same answer, but he does it with a 749 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: different motivation. But again, even Lindsay Graham, Okay, you know, 750 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: Trump's number one pet in the Senate is also not 751 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: helping his case. So if there was some reason to 752 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: believe that the President tried to coach somebody not to 753 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: testify or testify falsely, that could be obstruction of justice, yes, 754 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: under that under an obstruction strategre. So if if there's 755 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: some evidence that the president tried to conceal evidence, that 756 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: would be obstruction of justice potentially. Right, see that, that 757 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: that tells me they're they're looking, Graham's looking for the 758 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: off ramp. How do we get rid of this maniac 759 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: but maintain our base? Like so it's all about, like, 760 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: you know, we were trying with this guy, you know, 761 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: or whatever the calculation is. These guys, despite what we 762 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: think of them, they're not stupid. We're not talking about 763 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: the House, we're talking about the Senate, you know, a 764 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: little higher intellectual. They just play one on tea. They 765 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: just have their own selfish motivations in mind make them 766 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: appear to be idiotic. I mean, I think, but even 767 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: with Lindsay Graham, his questioning was sort of going in 768 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: the direction of love, sort of well, firing James Comey 769 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: is an obstruction, right was He was trying to walk 770 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: him down that path to be like, well, you know, 771 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: the Comy firing is fine, but I think inadvertently, yeah, 772 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: he's like, okay, but asking people to commit perjury, okay, cool, 773 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: so we'll see. You know. I think as things progress 774 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: and the shutdown gets worse and the numbers for the 775 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: GOP get worse and worse, you figure somebody has to realize, like, 776 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: this thing is going to eventually like smash into a 777 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: wall pun intended, uh that, you know, and we can't 778 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: come back from it. But I don't know that these 779 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: people also might really think that they are able to 780 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: just you know, conduct business like this and people will 781 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: just get right back on board no matter what happens, 782 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: which is insane to think, all right, we're gonna take 783 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: another quick break, we'll be right back, and we're back. 784 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of the shutdown. People are now just openly 785 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that this shutdown is not going 786 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: to end without some sort of massive disaster. They're like, well, 787 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: Democrats are dug in, the president's dug in, and some 788 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: bed ship's going to have to go down for anybody 789 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: to change their mind. Yeah, well, you know, I heard 790 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: it more euphemistically on the news someone said that some 791 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of external event or factor will probably bring people 792 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: to the negotiating table. And at that same guy, Hogan Gidley, 793 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: I think, was the one who said, well, we might 794 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: have to postpone the super Bowl if the shutdown continues 795 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: because we can't secure that. I mean, that would be 796 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: the b Like, does he think that Democrats will be like, 797 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: you're right, because the super Bowl is above all this 798 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: other ship pushing against it was really weird. And also 799 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: when you take into the account that Kirsten Nielsen of 800 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: Home in Security was like, Oh, we have enough people 801 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: to do the State of the Union if we wanted to, 802 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: Like that's fine. So anyway, Yeah, I don't know, I think, uh, 803 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it is true. The Democrats don't don't look 804 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: like they're gonna Budge and the Republicans at least there's 805 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: more pressure on them to change because as as the 806 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: optics get, like, you know, it's more and more people 807 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: are now holding the Republicans and specifically Trump responsible for this. 808 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: You know, like Mitch McConnell is like having people like 809 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: show up at his office more and more now, which 810 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: wasn't really the case. So yeah, let's not forget this 811 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: is what Putin wants. Yeah, he wants the disruption, you know, 812 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: and a terrorist attack or a plane going down or 813 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: god forbid, something awful like that. I mean, that's that's 814 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: what our enemies want. That's what this whole thing was 815 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: about from their standpoint, and it's working. It's chaos. Yeah, 816 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: And also like it lessens people's confidence in the government 817 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: as an institution, especially if you work in it. That's 818 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. And some people there was like an 819 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: OpEd I forget where it was where some like anonymous 820 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: White House official was like, well, you know, it's probably 821 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: good that a lot of people aren't going to work 822 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: because we can sort of trim the fat on like 823 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: the bureaucracies that we have. I mean, that is kind 824 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: of how he has thought about the government all along, 825 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: and how Republicans have claimed to think about the government 826 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: for years, even though they end up spending more than 827 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: democratic presidencies. The president doesn't give a funk about people 828 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: who he can't see or touch, and he's like insisting 829 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: on getting that money, and like other people suffering is 830 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: not going to impact his decision. The only thing that's 831 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: going to impact his decision is something changing in his world, 832 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: which is just a bunch of TVs to him, to 833 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: conservative media. So yeah, and I mean people like the 834 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: mainstream media is saying, you know, the external event, but 835 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: people on the hill, like The Atlantic had an article 836 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: at the end of last week where they talked to 837 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, Capitol Hill aids and people anonymously and they 838 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: were all like, yeah, so it's either going to be 839 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: a terror attack, a food safety crisis, or you know, 840 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: planes just falling out of the sky, Like it's the 841 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: fucking rapture. So the group that represents all the air 842 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: traffic controllers are saying, like, every week, you're you're raising 843 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: the risk of something bad happening because we have people 844 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: who are coming in with low morale or working overtime 845 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: or things like that to cover from people were calling 846 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: in sick, and the likelihood of someone slipping in their 847 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: job increases with every day this goes on, and when 848 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: you think about how much concentration that job requires, like, 849 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: that's not something you want anybody to have any stress, 850 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: Like you want them to be like getting a massage, sucking, 851 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: just saging the room of essential oils, whatever the funk 852 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: you gotta do to keep these people working. But yeah, 853 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: it is a real scary thing to think about, and 854 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: especially because they're just using this government shutdown as a 855 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 1: bargaining chip when there's stakes people high man. Yea, Let's 856 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: talk about a couple of big picture stories about America. Uh, 857 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: First of all, the with the opioid crisis. There was 858 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: a report in the New York Times last week that 859 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: stated that basically, doctors that received gifts from big opioid 860 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know, pharmaceutical companies that manufactured opioids were more 861 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: likely to have o d s in their areas. Right. Yeah, 862 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: so it said, uh, the industry spent about forty million 863 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: dollars promoting opioid medications to nearly sixty eight thousand doctors. 864 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: And and so they're saying like things like buying dinners 865 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: or meals or trips or consulting fees. And it said 866 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: for every three additional payments that companies made to doctors 867 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: per a hundred thousand people in a county overdose deaths 868 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: involving prescription opioids. There a year later, we're eighteen percent higher. 869 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: Now they attach the caveat that they say they have 870 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,479 Speaker 1: no way of actually discerning between prescribed painkillers and ones 871 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: that were obtained illegally or on the street, But they 872 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: also go on to talk about that they found that 873 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: counties where doctors received more industry marketing also saw an 874 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: increase in both the number of opioids prescribed and opioid 875 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: related deaths. And they also found that like the meals 876 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: were a greater fact contributing factor than even like trips 877 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: or money actual dollars spent, Like the more dinners they 878 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: went to. I wonder if that's because they get the 879 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: people drunk and then they like commit to doing something. 880 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know why meals would 881 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: be more persuasive than trip. I think maybe if it's 882 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: a meal, you're it's it's more intimate, and maybe the 883 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: doctor feels more beholden to not disappoint that person because 884 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: like a personal connection, where like trips kind of have 885 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: the out where. A lot of times they'll have like 886 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: cadavers that you can you know, experiment on or work 887 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: with on a trip. They'll be like, you know the 888 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: Vegas convention where you get to like practice injections or 889 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: something like that. Why they do that? Yeah, whoa, that's insane. 890 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: Of the ways pharmaceutical companies get people to come to 891 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: various things is like, we've got some bodies you can 892 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: work with. Who where did they buy those? Uh? Yeah, right, Oh, man, 893 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: I can get you a body. But yeah. Another detail 894 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: that came out in the past a couple of weeks 895 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: is that the Sackler family, who we talked about last 896 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 1: year in great detail because of a New Yorker report 897 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: on sort of their background of that they're the family 898 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: behind Purdue Pharma and Purdue pharmas the company that manufactured OxyContin, 899 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: and the Sackler family and the founders of Purdue Pharma. 900 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 1: These two brothers, the Sackler brothers, were the first people 901 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: who basically created the idea of marketing drugs two doctors 902 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: in a way that suggested the marketing was actually like 903 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: scientific and so like they would be like nine out 904 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: of ten study's agreed, and they would do marketing in 905 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: the Journal of American Medicine and you know all like 906 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: the New England Journal of Medicine. So they kind of 907 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: revolutionized the whole way that you market your drugs to doctors. 908 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: And it's been discovered. Now they're mostly known as like 909 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: this philanthropic family that you know has wings of museums 910 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: and has like entire hospitals named after them. But they 911 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: specifically misled investigators on their role in the marketing of 912 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: the opioids. And the videos yeah, like they're like, oh 913 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: my god, I'm not addicted and all my pains gone 914 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: and cut to like a lot of those people who 915 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: gave testimonials like their lives either ended tragically or they 916 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 1: went through some kind of substance abuse issues. Yes, the 917 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: chickens are coming home to roost for that family. Let's 918 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: talk about So what Miles the there's a story on 919 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: our dock that says, pennsylvan A police need you to 920 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 1: get fucked up. The cuts Town or Coots Town Borough 921 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: Police Department in Pennsylvania. They put a Facebook post up 922 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: and it says the Custown Police Department is looking for 923 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: three volunteers to assist us in training officers to administer 924 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: standardized field sobriety tests during suspected duy traffic stops. The 925 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: volunteers must be available on April fourth between two and 926 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: thirty and seven pm. Alcohol will be provided, However, you 927 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: will not receive any compensation for your time. In order 928 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: to be eligible, you must meet the below criteria. One 929 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: being good health between the ages of forty with no 930 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: history of drug or alcohol abuse. To that to clean 931 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: criminal history. Three be willing to drink hard liquor to 932 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: the point of inebriation for sign a waiver releasing the 933 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: borough of Cuts down of any liability and have a 934 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: sober responsible party take care and control after the training. 935 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: So they basically just need some stooges to get super 936 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: fucked up and see if you can trick their police officers. 937 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean to be like, we 938 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: got real live fucked up people here for you to 939 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: figure out, you know, I guess just to administer all 940 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: your tests, like the lean back and do the rock away, 941 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean lean back and close your eyes on one foot. 942 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: I can't even do that sober. Yeah, you ever been 943 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: pulled over while driving drunk? No? No, no, I just 944 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: assume you drop drunk. You just seem like that. Oh yeah, 945 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean I got that. Yeah, I mean before uber, 946 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: I think we all did. No, I'm not. I'm not 947 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: proud of that. I don't that. But yeah, I think 948 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: in my younger days I took some risks, but I've 949 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: never been pulled over. Usually I'm pulled over like for 950 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: real bullshit stuff because like I'm in the neighborhood. Some 951 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: a cop doesn't think I should be any like, you know, 952 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: roll roll through the stops on you don't probably got 953 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: any guns, bombs, knife, and I'm like, no, bro, I'm 954 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna pick up my girlfriend. But yeah, it's a it's 955 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: a very yeah like this. After this post went out, 956 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: the community responded. I mean they only needed three people. 957 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: They said fourteen hundred times it was shared and they 958 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: got over like hundreds of people leaving comments almost a thousand. 959 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, I'm down to do it. This is 960 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: for a burrow of five thousand people. So most towns 961 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: like ye, a quarter of the fifth of the people. Yeah, 962 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 1: crazy fifth yeah broom. I just uh yeah, I feel 963 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: like is this a normal thing? Like is that like 964 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: a thing you can sign up for where be like 965 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking to get involved in helping the police identify 966 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: inebriated people. Do they have outlets? I think it's part 967 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: of Trump's new for a old federal worker plan, I'd imagine. 968 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: But according to that apparion, they'll be like, it's b 969 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: y O B though, right, Yeah, pull up, fucked up. 970 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: We don't we don't have money to help you. We 971 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: need you to come fucked rubbing alcohol will be provided. Jesus, 972 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: you can't drink that. That is good. I'm glad you've 973 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that without cutting you with water, so it's just 974 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: burn your stomach. And then finally, Netflix just had a 975 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: bad week last week. We talked about how they raised prices, 976 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: and now there is a controversy because they have used 977 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: the same real train crash footage multiple times in their movies. Yeah, 978 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: in bird Box and in some other show that I 979 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: had Travelers, they've used footage of a Quebec train crash 980 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 1: from July six, two thirteen, where unmanned runaway train carrying 981 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: millions of gallons of crude oil derailed and its contents 982 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: caught on fire, and it claimed forty seven lives and 983 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: destroyed more than half of the downtown area of this town. 984 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: And uh, they've just I guess there's some gnarly footage 985 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: of it, and they're like, well that that works for 986 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: bird Box. So people watching bird Box noticed that, you know, 987 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: one of the TV news clips from like when ship 988 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: is going haywire because of the birds the mind birds. 989 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't seen the show, but how 990 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: many birds are in this hypnotism Birds the tricky into 991 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: doing crazy stuff. One of the things they tricked people 992 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 1: into doing is footage from this actual real life disaster. 993 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: And and I'm sure the outrage what Netflix were they 994 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: just like, sorry, man, it's in there, Like, what are 995 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: we gonna dot one of the best shots in the thing? Yeah? 996 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 1: No they I'm pretty sure they are not removing it. Yeah, 997 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: if they spent a lot of money producing that, all 998 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: those people like dude, like you know how expensive that 999 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: clip was to license from from a stock Yeah. Yeah. 1000 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: By the time you listen to this, they'll probably have 1001 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: come to their senses. But the fact that there was 1002 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: any resistance at first it is pretty wild. Yeah. I 1003 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: mean that's you know, if you got the budget, like, 1004 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: don't make people relive in actual tragedy because you're too 1005 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: lazy to like just be like Yeah, just use that 1006 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: terrible tragedy as some abstract thing fun. If the Avengers 1007 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: had used like nine eleven footage for cutaway is at 1008 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: the end, it's like, what the funk guys dark? Yeah, yeah, 1009 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: the Fano snap like, oh a bomb footage? Bro? What? Alright? Well, Jake, 1010 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: it has been a pleasure having you, man. Yeah, thanks 1011 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,720 Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. Where can people find 1012 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: you and follow you? Um at this Graceland pod on Twitter, 1013 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook and tell people about the podcast a 1014 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: little bit. It is a music and true crime podcast. 1015 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: So musicians getting away with murder and behaving very badly. 1016 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: So Jerry Lee Lewis getting away with killing his fifth wife, 1017 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: James Brown getting high on meth and blazing through the 1018 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: countryside with a shotgun, Tupac and Biggie Tak forty seven, 1019 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: Kurt and Courtney, rolling Stones, sleeping with Justin Trudeau's mom, 1020 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff like that. Yeah, exactly, rolling Stones 1021 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: so real quick. In the seventies, Keith Richards get caught 1022 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: at the border when they were going to record in 1023 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: Montreal with a bunch of heroin and they were doing 1024 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: two club shows and Mick and Ronnie slept with Justin 1025 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: Trudeau's mom, and she's seen she was caught by the 1026 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: paparazzi and she basically was like it was her anniversary 1027 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: with her husband was the premiere at the time, and 1028 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: she was like hanging out at the Ritz Carlton with 1029 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: Mick and Ronnie and they were open about how they 1030 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: slept with her, and it was like it was huge, huge, huge, huge. 1031 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: I thought Justin Trudeau had a big looking mouth. Like 1032 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau's dad is Fidel Castro? Like google that Google 1033 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: image the two of them, and then go back and 1034 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: then go back and listen to Justin Trudeau's comments when 1035 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: Castro died. It makes some sense. That's all Wow, that 1036 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: should have been your myth, that that should is that's 1037 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: next level. That's all right. And is there a tweet 1038 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: you've been enjoying whatever are fearless leader's last pile of 1039 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: bullshit that came out of his Twitter? I think it 1040 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, you could just distill that down to 1041 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: him saying I eat pieces of ship for brec. Okay, cool, 1042 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, So there you go. Alright, Miles, 1043 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: where can people find you? Like? Find me on Twitter 1044 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: and Instagram at miles of gray. Uh, let's see a 1045 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: tweet I like from Uh, there's one from Ben Rosen 1046 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: at Ben Underscore Rosen. It's a photo of Tucker Carlson 1047 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: from his TV show with a Chiron's Tucker Carson looking 1048 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 1: very serious, like a screen cap and he's like has 1049 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: like a face like he's trying to ask something, and 1050 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: the kiron reads what does the vagina look like? Because 1051 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: he is really something else? And one more, just like 1052 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: the construction of this. It's an old Todd Glass tweet, 1053 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: but it said, I want your honest feedback. What do 1054 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: you think of this? For a bumper sticker? Get off 1055 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: my ship, asshole, and don't forget to watch my Netflix 1056 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: special Act Happy and I'll be at the Helium Comedy 1057 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: in Philly January seven, and in Springfield, Missouri at the 1058 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: Blue Room the week after. Just a great, great, little, 1059 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: great little joke. Anyone who's stand up comedians on their 1060 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: podcast can identify yeah that and find me at this 1061 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: place at this place, and you can find me on 1062 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien a few tweets I've been enjoying. 1063 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Sarah Bati responded to a variety tweet Variety tweeter r 1064 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Kelly dropped by Sony Music. She tweeted, hopefully from a 1065 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: fucking plane. Sharene Lana Unice, co host of Ethnically Ambiguous 1066 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Great Sister podcast on This Here Network, tweeted, wait, so 1067 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: you're telling me that I have to read the text 1068 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: people send me and respond to them, which I totally 1069 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: identify with and at sco Okotska tweeted, my husband just 1070 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: asked for chopsticks to eat with instead of a fork. 1071 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say my work here is done. 1072 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Send me another white guy. I won't know what they're eating. Yo. 1073 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: If you did that to eat some Western food, then 1074 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I would be like, Yo, mission accomplished a bagel with 1075 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: cream cheese. Yeah yeah no, but some things like I 1076 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: just can't like as a Japanese person, like I cannot 1077 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: eat with before it just like it's all right. I hope, 1078 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I hope it was pizza. Uh. You can find me 1079 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack on our score o Brian. You 1080 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. Were at 1081 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan 1082 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily zeitgeis dot com, where we 1083 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: post our episodes and our Foot where we link off 1084 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about today's episode as 1085 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: well as the songs that we ride out on miles 1086 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: with that. Uh. This is actually an oldieu from the 1087 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: ninety eight album from Uncle Science Fiction, which is a 1088 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: collab between James Level and DJ Shadow Uh, And it 1089 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: has one of my favorite drum samples, like drum breaks 1090 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: samples in it is blood Stain from Alice Temple and 1091 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I think the actual drum break that's in it is 1092 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: from a band called head West if you have all 1093 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: those Dusty Fingers sample records. But anyway, this is blood 1094 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Stain from Uncle U n k L from Science Fiction. 1095 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna write out on that. We will 1096 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow because it is a day podcast. We'll 1097 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: talk to you them that Staying on a Blue Lay, 1098 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Take It to the Shame, Love Tracks on a Strain, 1099 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Love Stay No Game