1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Football Today, presented by Captain Morgan. I'm your 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: host Bobby Skinning here with my co host Justin Pennock, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and we're doing all pro teams uh this uh today 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: only offense. We did defense last week. I feel like 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: we got a pretty good grass on where this is 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: going to end. All Pro voting happens, you know sooner, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: you know it's it's coming up on it with the season, 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, what's six weeks away from being ended. Justin Pennock, 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: how you doing? How you feeling? Has anything changed since 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: we originally were going to do this two weeks ago. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: I think I changed the order of some guys, like 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: I maybe had on some guys first and then I 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 2: put them second. Yes, some things did change for me. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. So we're gonna do first team and second team. 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I think wide receiver is what changed the most for me. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: Running Backs flip flop for me, but quarterbacks stayed the same. 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: And we're gonna we're gonna start with quarterback. Who's your 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: first team All Pro quarterback? 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Justin my first team All Pro quarterback. I want to 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: say first, Happy Thanksgiving for everybody who's listening. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for supporting us through football today, Thanksgiving. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: Tell us about your hey, comment what your friggin thankful for? 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: In the words of Bobby Skinner, and uh hello to 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick. If this is if this makes it on 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick feed, happy to have you on John 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Boy Media football football today. We're doing some good stuff. 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: Uh my first quarterback. This is something that I did 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: flip from two weeks ago. I now first have Lamar Jackson, 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: and I have Josh Allen, second, and then third for 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: honorable mention, I have Jared Goff. 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you left a name off of this 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: because I only did first team and second team. The 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: first team is Lamar. I feel like that this is 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: super like. You can make an argument for a couple 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: other guys maybe if you wanted to, but I feel 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: like this one is easy. He's the reigning MVP and 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: he's having a better season than he was, you know, 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: than then last year. You know, he's number one EPA 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: for play fifth and passing your yards for game first 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: and total. But he has that extra game first and 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns only three interceptions. The only starter with less 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: is Justin Herbert. Then you get to the rushing staff, 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: where a six hundred yards which is most for quarterbacks, 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and then three rushing touchdowns. 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: Like at. 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Last year he won the MVP, and I thought there 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: was arguments for the position players and stuff, and I think, 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, Saquon might be making an argument to get 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: it this year if he breaks the rushing record. But 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: I feel like the difference is Lamar's having a typical 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: MVP year where last year I thought it was like 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: a down year for the quarterbacks. 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Right if Lamar statistically was having the season that he 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: was having last year, then it's like, oh, come on, man, 55 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: Like there already was a pretty decent argument through this 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: time last year that maybe Tyreek Hill should get it, 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: but it would be all right, come on, you gotta 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: give this the saque We're going to talk about SIQ 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: one his ability to finish games and helping the Eagles 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: actually finish football games too, But even yards per attempt, 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: where Jared Goff is number one at nine, Lamar Jackson 62 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: the second at eight point nine. The rushing added on 63 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: top of the season that he's having is just I 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: don't know if this is you know, we all we 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: all try and say this when we talk about greatness, 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: but Bobby, I don't know if we've ever seen a 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: QB season like this where you have a weapon like 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson who is leading in yards, is leading a 69 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: touchdown almost an eight percent touchdown rate, not turning over 70 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: the ball less than a one percent interception rate, and 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: on top of that, he has you know some you know, 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: maybe some good RB twos or are getting six hundred 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: yards in the year, and he has that himself on 74 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: top of the scoring that he could do with his 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: legs himself. I don't know if we've ever seen a 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: QB season like this where a quarterback is so dominant 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: throwing the ball and then also a QB so dominant 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: running the ball. 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Well, the only other one I could think of is 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Lamar. 81 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Right, but the yards weren't really there, I don't think for. 82 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Lamar dy plus passing touchdown, he gets two three interceptions 83 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: that year and that was I think he ended up 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: getting a thousand rushing yards that year too. So like 85 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: the only person that you can really compare to. 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Is Ar. 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like Allan's had some like nice dual 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: threat years, but like last year, he led the league 89 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: in interceptions despite being like having a ton of rushing 90 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: yards to go with it. So yeah, like again, he's 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: he's clearly having a better season than last year. I 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: feel like this is easy. So you your second team 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: was who it was it was, It's Josh Allen, So 94 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: mine is Joe Burrow. Okay. 95 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: The only argument I would say against that this. 96 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Is a positional award. This is not has nothing to 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: do all pro to me, has nothing to do with 98 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: team's success. Yeah, like do we do? Are are we gonna? 99 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Are we gonna? You know? If let's say the let 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: me find an example. You bring up great, Okay, my 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: second team left guard justin he's on a bad team. 102 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: Should I hold that against him? 103 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: No? Uh? 104 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: You know so. I mean he's second in the NFL 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: in passing yards per game by a half yard to 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. He's passing touchdowns, he's tied with Lamar with 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: one less game, only four interceptions, and he has a 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: number six scoring offense with the twenty ninth best rushing team. 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: It's not his fault that his defense sucks. So if 110 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: you want to get into like MVP, like you have 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: to be on a winning team for MVP type debate. 112 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But just all pro, just best 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: at their position, Joe Burrow, Joe, Like, if Joe Burrow 114 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: had this type of season last year, you know, like 115 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: he would have he would have been the MVP over 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Lamar to me, and you. 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: Would put Burrow Like, hey, if you want to, you know, 118 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even Jared. I don't have like 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: a big ringing endorsement for Jared Goff to be honest, 120 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: But I will even fight a little bit. You're willing 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: to put Joe Burrow ahead of Josh Allen what he's 122 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: done this year. 123 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: I mean, he has ten more passing touchdowns, five hundred 124 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: more passing yards. I know Josh Allen adds that rushing yards, 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: but you can't. I think Burrow's been just much better 126 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: as a passer. I think Josh Allen. But like, even 127 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: though Josh Allen has slowed down the turnovers, which they've 128 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: it was like zero through like seven games and now 129 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: he's got five in the last four, he's not putting 130 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: up the same passing yards that he did, Like they 131 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: ran the ball a lot earlier in the year, and 132 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: now you're starting to see those numbers creep back up 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: for him. But Joe Burrow is doing a ton He 134 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: is and I. 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: Think you're you're talking about two teams that are super 136 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: dependent on their quarterbacks, right, And I think maybe Lamar 137 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: is in that conversation. I think sincey and Buffalo, I mean, 138 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: can name me another team that is like so QB 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: dependent on their success, I think those are the tops. 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: Buffalo has a halfway decent defense, right right, right. 141 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: But my even argument, my even argument is is that 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: since he's infrastructure on off it's not defense. Uh, since 143 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: he's infrastructure on offense is better than what Josh Allen 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 2: and the Bills have. Now you can say the running 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: game is better, but I'm going receivers wise, I would 146 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: take Higgins then you know what they have in Buffalo 147 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: right now, at least until Amari Cooper is more consistent. 148 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: For you, well, even even when a Mari Cooper comes back, 149 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: you're taking that Bengals passing offense, you know, system better. 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: But but again, he has no rushing attack, and you 151 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: know he's got the nice chasing and Higgins on the outside, 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: no doubt, but like he's still doing the damn thing. 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of a shame that like this 154 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: type of performance won't even get a shot in the playoffs. 155 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: No, So that's why I'm not saying I'm wrong. I 156 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: picked my Bengals to to win the Super Bowl this year. 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: I knew Joe Burrow was gonna have an MVP like year. 158 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm not wrong because it's happening. 159 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Hey maybe let's you know what, let's they're not making 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Know they're not. 162 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I've been that they're not making the playoffs. Guy, Yes, 163 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: and because they're the division they're in and their defense. 164 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: The dream is dead. The dream is dead. 165 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: But I just with the new seventeen thing. In seventeen games, 166 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: it's just like the end the hunt graphic is always 167 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: epic towards the end of the year. 168 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Now there, I think they're down there. Their chances are 169 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: down on the twenties and the teams now and even 170 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: even if they start winning a little bit. So they 171 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: need the Broncos to just crash. And I mean, they 172 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: need a couple a lot of things happen, but they 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: need the Broncos to really crash and fail. And I 174 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: just don't know if that's gonna happen at this point. 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, b Burrow has been phenomenal and it's gonna be. 176 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: It is going to be kind of like a a 177 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: wasted effort, and you don't know what's gonna happen with 178 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: the future of T Higgins, and you know the future 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: is some of these guys. So it's a shame that 180 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: it's a coming down. 181 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah right now, they're yeah, they're not making it. They're 182 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: al and and they're just not a good team. 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they could string together wins 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: at this point. 185 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: We're not We're not like they are. They aren't a 186 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: good team. All right, So first team I had Lamar's 187 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: second team, Joe Burrow, you're was first team Lamar second team, 188 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Yes, all right, you want to hit the 189 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: running backs. 190 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Let's hit the running backs. 191 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: So this is where it's at. Flip flopped for me 192 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: when I put together my original notes a couple of 193 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and then we pushed this back because we 194 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: won the debuted debut hit for the Dan The Patrick 195 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Dan Show first team Sakwon Barkley, second team, Derrick Henry. Right, Yeah, 196 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a rushing like a 197 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: top two rushers in the league, like having a season 198 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: like this. Maybe I should have thought about this before 199 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: the show, but I'm like, I can't remember the last time. 200 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they're maybe it's CJ, Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson and 201 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: that and that. You know that, you know, Chris Johnson 202 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: broke the scriminates yard. Let me look at two thousand 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: and nine rushing leaders. 204 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: But it. 205 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Eventually someone's gonna have to break. Now. Adrian Peters and 206 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: had a down not a down year. He had eighteen 207 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and thirteen hundred yards, but he was fourth 208 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in rushing after Thomas Jones and Steven Jackson. Down year. 209 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson definitely a Hall of Famer. Oh yeah, here's it. 210 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: Here's a quick name the running backs who are not 211 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame that are going to get 212 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. And I'm not going back 213 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: from like the last five six years. 214 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: The last five you're saying the last five six I think. 215 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and Derrick Henry the only running backs who 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: haven't been eligible yet that are going to get into 217 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. 218 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's that's fair. Is there anybody else like McCaffrey. 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey maybe, but you forget McCaffrey had some I mean, 220 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: this is the third time where he's just missed significant time. 221 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: The third year he's at miss significant time. 222 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a fun offseason episode. Let's let's 223 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: put it, let's put a pin on that. Yeah, have 224 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: to talk about the future of the running back position. 225 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: But Saquon, I mean first in the NFL rushing yards 226 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: are game with one hundred and twenty five ten rushing touchdowns, 227 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: which is it is a lot. But like you think 228 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts has an rushing. 229 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: Touchdown cut from like ten and twenty plus yards away 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: from the end zone. It's crazy. 231 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's getting these explosive plays like he is 232 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: him behind that Eagles offensive line, which was like, Saque's 233 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: always been a good running back, played behind us some 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: bad offensive lines with the Giants. The Eagles offensive line 235 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, makes DeAndre Swift look really good and 236 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders look really good. Well, now you put a 237 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: running back like Saquon behind it, and now it's just 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: they can just flat out lean on their rushing attack 239 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: and it's and it's impossible to stop. 240 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: I just had a scary thought. Imagine if a Saque 241 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: was on the twenty twenty two Eagles, where you had 242 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: Kelsey and uh had you didn't have mckaye Beckins looked 243 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: pretty good at guard, but you didn't have mkay beck 244 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: the playing at guard, that would have been a very scary, 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: scary site. But uh no, I mean Saquon Barkley, I 246 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: think has been the best finisher in the NFL his 247 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: first half and second half splits. I know some national 248 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: broadcasts have done a really good job of pointing this out, 249 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: but go on Pro Football Reference and look for yourself 250 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: and go under splits and click twenty twenty four where 251 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: he's almost doubling his yards per attempt in the second half. 252 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: He's almost doubling his yards from what he has in 253 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: the first half in the second half. And I think 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: particularly for this Eagles team, which they're kicking ass right now, 255 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: but you can, you know, maybe there's still some issues there, 256 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: but they are totally being I don't even want to 257 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: say covered up. But Sakuon Barkley has just in the 258 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: second half in their ability to close out these games. 259 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: It's just made the Eagles that much better and it's 260 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: made them a good team, maybe with some problems, to 261 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: a team that is currently kicking ass right now. And 262 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Bobby let me even ask you this because I tried 263 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: kind of directing Rose in this direction on Monday Show. 264 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: But you know, I kind of want to hear your thoughts. 265 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: I feel like the kind of the older heads and 266 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: maybe the talking heads of NFL football that really like 267 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: to talk about on the second half, that's when that's 268 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: when you really start to lean on guys, even if 269 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: the run isn't really working in the first half. Sequon 270 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: Barkley and the Eagles is a is a clear example 271 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: as to tiring a defense down, wearing a defense down, 272 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: and then boom, you get to hit them for big 273 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: plays in the second half. Do you think it's it's 274 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: kind of that that simple and maybe that's why he's 275 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: hitting those big games or is it just Saquon Barkley 276 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: and the Eagles offensive lines really freaking good? 277 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Well, the being really freaking good part of it is 278 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: obviously part. But run defense is so much about focus 279 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: and effort, right, Like, you have to be focused, You 280 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: have to make sure you play your gap when they 281 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: pull somebody, we gotta we gotta move down a gap. 282 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: You got to have like you, It takes all leven 283 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: like you really, you really got to be totally focused 284 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: and it's just as a game gets going and it's tired, 285 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to be the focus, right you see it 286 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Like a corner will jump inside and then you are 287 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: able to bounce the play. So stuff like that. So yeah, 288 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I do think it's a part of what they're what 289 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: they're doing. I didn't get the check Monday show, but 290 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: I saw you guys did Saquon MVP talk? Where are 291 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: you on that? 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: Is this a quarterback award or not? I don't think 293 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: he deserves it over Josh Allen or Lamar. But if 294 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: I had to make a list of you know, your 295 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: top five, I think I'm putting Saquon Barkley right now 296 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: as number three. 297 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: I'd probably put him at number two over I don't 298 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: say it completely, but I try to lean a little 299 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: more into most outstanding instead of most valuable, because then 300 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: it's just a never ending argument of like, well, quarterbacks 301 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: most valuable. Yeah, it's it's just quarterback of the year. 302 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If he breaks Eric 304 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Dickerson's record, oh yeah, you got you can't. You can't 305 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: not give that guy the MVP. Like, I'm sorry, Lamar 306 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you if someone breaks Eric Dickerson's record. You give him 307 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: the MVP that year. The last time that running back 308 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: got MVP or non quarterback got MVP was Agent Peterson. 309 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: That's when he came like seven yards short of Dickerson's record. 310 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: If you break that record, I'm sorry, Like running back 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: gets the MVP, don't talk to me about I understand, 312 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I understand your arguments. I'm sorry, I'm getting him the MVP. 313 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean MVP. I feel like it's turned into 314 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: an EPA per Player award, even when I don't know 315 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: if voters are intentionally looking at EPA per play, but 316 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: it's very much turned into an EPA per Player award. 317 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: And you have Lamar Jackson as one and Josh Allen 318 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: has two in the NFL right now among quarterbacks, right so. 319 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Second team running Back All Pro justin, I feel like 320 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it's a shame that this guy's not gonna be first 321 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: team with Derrick Henry, I mean, his one hundred and 322 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: ten rushing yards per game is second in the NFL. 323 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: It's the best rushing yards per game season by like 324 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a wide margin since twenty twenty when guess who Derrick 325 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Henry had one hundred and twenty six yards per game 326 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: that year. So like, so he has one hundred and 327 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: ten rushing yards per game right, twenty twenty one's leader 328 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and six, twenty twenty two's leader ninety seven 329 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: with Josh Jacobs, and then last year was Kyrine Williams 330 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: with with U ninety five and McCaffrey was second with 331 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: ninety one. Likes. He has thirteen touchdowns. That's three more 332 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: than you know, say, Kwon Barkley. Uh, like he's having 333 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: a bad as again, this is like one of the 334 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: better one to two punch running back seasons in a 335 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: long time. And then you forget, like what the Troy's 336 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: doing with their guys. They're two headed monster. It's running. 337 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: The ball is back and it's fun. 338 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: You don't think that it could maybe keep flipping because 339 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: for the longest time, you know, even two weeks ago, 340 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: we wanted to do the show two weeks ago for 341 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: for Dan Patrick, but oh. 342 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: It was until basically, yeah, two weeks ago, it would 343 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: have been Henry every week of the season. 344 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: So I think it could flip. I don't think Barkley 345 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: is just you know, running away with it, so to speak. 346 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: If he keeps having these second half huge explosive plays 347 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: in the end. If the Eagles keep kicking s, he'll 348 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: keep it. But I think Derrick Henry's just consistency. If 349 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: any team can, you know, pitch Barkley out to a 350 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: little bit of a quote unquote shutout of you know, 351 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: averaging four point four yards per carry in the first 352 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: half like he's doing so far this year, and in 353 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: the second half you have a just five and then 354 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry has some more of these just big old 355 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: consistent games. I think I think it could easily flip 356 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: a week week in and week out as the season 357 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: goes on between Henry and Henry and Barkley. I'm not 358 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: ready to say that Barkley's just gonna run away with 359 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: it yet. 360 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna run away with it because one, 361 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: he's played one more game or one less game than 362 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, unless injury is the only thing that could 363 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: he's played one less game than than Henry, and the 364 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Eagles scheduled now they have the Ravens matchup coming up 365 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: this week, which is, you know, game of the week. 366 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Then you have Panthers Steel's a good run defense, but 367 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: ability to be ran on, Commanders, Cowboys, Giants, I think 368 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball a lot in those matchups. 369 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: And again, sixteen yards per game is just a huge difference, right, Yeah, 370 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: So it's just it would be really really hard to do. 371 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: So I just once you talk to us about something 373 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: before we get into the wide receiver, we'll talk. 374 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: To you about something. 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Daniel Jones to the Vikings. 403 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're I was getting ready to lie to you 404 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: about it and it happened. 405 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: What are your instant thoughts as I write down the timestamp? 406 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: The Vikings I feel like would have been a good 407 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: spot for him or sorry, but the Vikings are a 408 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: great spot for any quarterback, and I think they're going 409 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: to try and resign him as the backup for JJ 410 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy next year, where I don't know if the Ravens 411 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: were going to try and spend money to resign Daniel Jones. 412 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I think I think he looked at it from a 413 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: point of view He's like, this is where I could 414 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: make my this is where I can I can be 415 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: the quarterback next year JJ McCarthy coming off that injury. 416 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe even to start. I mean, I think McCarthy, 417 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: should you kind of be ready. 418 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy the start week one. Next year you get picked, 419 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: you trade up in the first round. For you guys, 420 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: gotta be the start of the week two, especially two. 421 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: He sat for an entire year, you know, sap due 422 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: to injury. But but I have this theory that a 423 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: lot of like scouting the league is how well did 424 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: they play against us? And Daniel Jones played really bad 425 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: in Week one, but he did have those you know, 426 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: those good games in twenty twenty two when they made 427 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know they played well. He played well 428 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: against them in the regular season as well too. But 429 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: that Vikings offense, I mean, it's a it's a good 430 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: fit for Damn. If you're not a good fit for 431 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: the Vikings offense, you're just horrible. Like the god, you 432 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: don't belong in the league. If you're not a good 433 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: fit for the Vikings offense. 434 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, good landing spot, good landing spot. I thought 435 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: that maybe he would go to the Ravens, where he's. 436 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Also signing to the practice squad, so like he could 437 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: change teams if he really wanted to. 438 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, all right, good, good for him, good 439 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: for dj Yeah, and and the Vikings aren't going to 440 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: resign Sam Darnold there, all. 441 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: Right, all Pro wide receivers. Just in the first team. 442 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I've got Jamar Chase obviously leaves the NFL in yards 443 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: with you know, you know, with a thousand by over, 444 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, one hundred more than the next guy second 445 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: in catches first and yards and touchdowns. His twelve touchdowns 446 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: are three more than second place in a Monroe justin Jefferson, 447 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: who's second, and in yards. And then I put Terry 448 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: McLaurin third, not third the first. I put three first 449 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: team All All Pro wider so I also have three Jeffson, 450 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. 451 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: I also have three run a little bit of eleven personnel. 452 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: I have Jamar Chase, same as you, Justin Jefferson, same 453 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: as you. This guy has missed some time, but I 454 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: think when it's all said and done, we're going to 455 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: be talking about him as as a possible first team all. 456 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: I brought him second team. 457 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: AJ Brown. 458 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, there's another guy I was thinking of that 459 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: I put the second team A. J. 460 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: Brown is currently Now you have to go. You have 461 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: to He doesn't have like a ton of targets compared 462 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: to the rest of the NFL, but he's top five 463 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: in yards per perception. I believe he is first in 464 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: yards per route run among guys with twenty percent of 465 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: the qualified targets on PFF, so he's first in yards 466 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: per route run. I think yards parrette run is one 467 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: of the more better efficiency stats when it comes to 468 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: wide receivers in terms of how effective you actually are. 469 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: So AJ Brown and we talk about Saquon Barkley and 470 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: he's gotten the light, he's got the shine, and I 471 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: think rightfully so. But AJ Brown has been pretty damn 472 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: good for these Philadelphia Eagles as well. Number one in 473 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: the NFL in yards perrette run. 474 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: I have a number three, So yours is Jamar Chase 475 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Jefferson and AJ Brown. 476 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chase just yards after the catch wise has been 477 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: phenomenal this year. I'll be honest. People have always talked 478 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: about that Chase is really good yards after the catch. 479 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know that he had this much in him 480 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: this year, just seeing the big plays and game changing 481 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: plays week in and week out, what should be game 482 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: changing winning plays for the Cincinnati Bengals, but their defense 483 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: just gives it away. And justin Jefferson, you know that 484 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: offense is nowhere near as effective as it can be, 485 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: or as it is without the presence of him. 486 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: We all know this. Yeah, and Chase has just been ridiculous. 487 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: So I put in McLaurin as my third. I mean, 488 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: we've known, you know me, and you have known mclaurin's 489 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: a beast since like Week three of twenty nineteen because 490 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: he's in division with us, and I kind of really 491 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: liked him in the draft. He's starting to get his 492 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: flowers more because with Jayden Daniels as QB and I 493 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: know the Commanders have had a little bit of a 494 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: rough patch, but you know, a thousand yards four straight 495 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: years with bad QB play. He's fourth in yards this year, 496 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: third and touchdowns. Like Terry, McLaurin has hasn't always been 497 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: a true blue wide receiver one in the NFL. 498 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I he's tenth in yards per Retroun. So that's 499 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: a really good, really good call by you. I have, 500 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: like Aman Ross Saint Brown kind of even in front 501 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: of Terry two. 502 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: But let's let's do our second team, so we could 503 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: talk about my second teams. Is Nico Collins. I mean 504 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: he's smoking the field in yards per game, but you 505 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: know he's only played the seven games. And then a 506 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Monross Saint Brown, who's eighth in yards but second in touchdowns. 507 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: Team is a bit at run heavy. And then they 508 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: put Ceedee Lamb. You know, Ceed's third in yards, but 509 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: he's force fed a time. I mean he has fifteen 510 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: more targets than Jamar Chase, twenty nine more targets than 511 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, who are both ahead of him in yards. 512 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have Nico Collins second team as well. 513 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: I mean he's seven games and he's eleventh in receiving 514 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: in the NFL. A Monross Saint Brown, I just think 515 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: him as a blocker and like everything that Detroit does, 516 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: it's kind of like leaning on him as well. Of 517 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: course with that run game, but he is just so 518 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: talented himself. He could put him in line and he 519 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: can be effective there for you too, and I have 520 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: George Pickens. I think George Pickens has kind of really 521 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: changed and transcended that Steelers offense to becoming somewhat of 522 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: a force as well. And he's sixth in the NFL 523 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: in receiving yards as well. Yeah, Terry hasn't beenist Can 524 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: I tell you Terry hasn't been consistent enough for me. 525 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Like on a game in the game stat basis. 526 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: Or yeah, which I which this is me being like 527 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: eye test and and feel and this is just a feeling. 528 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: This isn't me like looking at his box score. But 529 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm even like I'm even speaking as like a McLaurin 530 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: fantasy owner, And there would be the early portion of 531 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: the season where he kind of like wasn't wasn't there for. 532 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Me, you know, I mean that was just two games basically, 533 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: I know. And here's the other thing is the Commanders 534 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: don't have other receiving options, so like he's like very 535 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: easily double teams. Yeah, you know. And even in like 536 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: a game where he was doubled a lot was the 537 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Giants a half a weeks he had two catches. We'll 538 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: guess what. He also had two touchdowns in the game. 539 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, he does have some dud games, but so 540 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: has pecans. This is true, you know. 541 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: And mclaurin's seven touchdowns is pretty is pretty damn good 542 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: too to Pickens is too. 543 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah he And again mclaurin's fourth and yards third and 544 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns like yeah, I can live with that. And then 545 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: so second team is at Nico Monrae and Cee Liam 546 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: all right tight ends quick, Yeah, first team, second team. 547 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: I put George Kittle first team. He's third in yards, 548 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: but he u one hundred and two behind Bowers, but 549 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: he's played two less games, and his eight touchdowns is 550 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: third most in the league for wide receivers and tight ends, 551 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: like the only the only the tight end in the 552 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: top five for yards who's touched, Like, let me rephrase this, 553 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: So top five tight ends and receiving yards. The second 554 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: most touchdowns to George Kittle is John new Smith with four. 555 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: He's the best blocker of the bunch. So I put 556 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: I put Kittle first team for the touchdowns and the 557 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: fact Bowers is just he's all that offense has, so 558 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: they force feed him. But he's having a great year 559 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, sometimes tight ends can come 560 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: on a little slow. Brock Bowers has not done that. 561 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: So I put Kittle first team, brock Bowers second team. 562 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Brock Bowers is seventeen. Game pace is one hundred and 563 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: nineteen receptions, twelve hundred yards, five touchdowns. The most receptions 564 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: by a rookie tight is eighty six and the most 565 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: receptions ever by a tight end is one hundred and sixteen. 566 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: This is we're going to witness the best rookie tight 567 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: end season ever, and we may just witness I don't 568 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: want to say one of the best, because, like I said, 569 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: the Raiders are force feeding him the ball. But he's 570 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: on pace to break the receptions record by a tight end, 571 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: which is absolutely nuts. I have we don't have a 572 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: lot of time to debate this. I have Trey McBride 573 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: as first team. And here's why I. 574 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Would love to put Trey McBride in here. 575 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: But he has no touchhounds. He has one rushing touchdown, 576 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: and Kittle has him over and Kittle has him with 577 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: the touchhounds. I've nicknamed McBride the agenda. You want to 578 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: know why, because he helps you stay on schedule. Trey McBride, 579 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: I think, is leading the NFL in amongst tight end 580 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of his catches. Our first read, Kyler 581 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: Murray's first read. The ball's going to him. He helps 582 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: this Cara, this Arizona offense just stand schedule, avoiding third downs. 583 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: So I have him first team, even though Kittle is 584 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: first in yards per roup run and McBride a second. 585 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: McBride betteran yards pert run than last year. And then 586 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: I do have Brock Bowers second. So no Kittle, who's 587 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: thirteen yards and a time honorable mention. I think I 588 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: just I'm liking the season that you know we've seen 589 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: it from Kittle. I'm liking the seasons that we're seeing 590 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: out of McBride and McBride and Bowers more. 591 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: All right, offensive line, let's do quickly. Yep, uh, just 592 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: what you just want to talk about? Offensive line? I 593 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: hate to do this to you guys, that we've got 594 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: to offensive line. First team left tackle Tristan Wurf's left guard, 595 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Joe Thoney, center, Creed Humphrey, right guard, Kevin Zeitler, right 596 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: tackle Lane Johnson. Second team. I have Taron Armsta at 597 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: left tackle, Quintin Nelson at left guard, Tyler Linderbaum at center, 598 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Quinn Miners at right guard, and right tackle, Penney stewel. 599 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: Man. Offensive lines have fun this year. The guys that 600 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: are good, they're good every year. Tristian Wurf's at left tackle. 601 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: I have a clean sweep of Kansas City Chiefs in 602 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: the interior with Joe Thuney, Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith. I 603 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: have Penny Sewell at right tackle. I think him being 604 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: a really good run blocker, the difference between him and 605 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson. But I have Lane Johnson on my second team, 606 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: and I don't feel I don't feel confident enough to 607 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: really give a full second team because I don't watch 608 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: these offensive linement enough. 609 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: Well you don't. You don't have to because we gotta go. 610 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: We gotta go. 611 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: So we appreciate you guys. We will see you on 612 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: the next one. Have a happy bringing, Thanksginning, Thanksgiving. Until then, 613 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: this is football today.