Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess, Hilariy Charlamage
Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Low LaRosa is
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Speaker 1: The hood was for a family.
Speaker 3: I'm not special guests. Breakfast Club family here. Good morning, morning,
Speaker 3: good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning. How are you feeling, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4: Congratulations I saw that you officially got accepted in the
Speaker 4: FAMI you law school.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yes, thank you for the saying that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very excited. Fam you HBCU very very important.
Speaker 3: My daughter shout out to my daughter Jada, she actually
Speaker 3: got into pray View. Okay, she'll be going on scholarship.
Speaker 3: And mom were taking advantage of my empty nest situation
Speaker 3: and going.
Speaker 1: To law school.
Speaker 4: I mean you decided because you already got two degrees, right, yes.
Speaker 1: You want to go get a third.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to get my law degree, even though
Speaker 3: I've worked with Attorney Crump as a senior public holuer
Speaker 3: let's advise, as you know for the last ten years,
Speaker 3: just wasn't able to do it, you know, having a
Speaker 3: daughter running a business three hundred employees in Atlanta. Hustling
Speaker 3: working your first year of law school is really like
Speaker 3: a hazing, Like you really have to be able to,
Speaker 3: you know, focus.
Speaker 1: I've always had to worry about getting money.
Speaker 3: So I want to say thank you to you for
Speaker 3: the black Efake podcast network because without that, knowing that
Speaker 3: I can at least have some type of income coming in,
Speaker 3: that's really a lot of why it's made possible so
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Speaker 1: That's really really important. You know.
Speaker 3: It's it's not like I'm wealthy or you know, anything
Speaker 3: like that. But one of the things of law school.
Speaker 3: It took me over a decade to finish my bachelor's
Speaker 3: I had to stop start stop, start stop start because
Speaker 3: of money.
Speaker 1: You know, need Do I got to work full time?
Speaker 1: Do I have to be a teacher, substitute? All those
Speaker 1: different things?
Speaker 3: So to really finish the law school program, you need
Speaker 3: a job, and how do you do that and still study?
Speaker 3: So I am part time because I'm still cheap local
Speaker 3: corresponding they revolte news and managing editor over there. But
Speaker 3: now I can kind of breathe, and you know, I
Speaker 3: got some income coming in.
Speaker 1: So shout out to.
Speaker 2: Will you actually go to class and school there.
Speaker 3: What I know you always asked them about online. Yes, No,
Speaker 3: I will be in class in Orlando, Florida, going back
Speaker 3: to Orlando, finishing up some which is.
Speaker 1: A full circle for me.
Speaker 3: I sut to leave when due to healthcare reform and
Speaker 3: I lost my business. So no, it's actually Monday through Thursday,
Speaker 3: and then I'll be going to Atlanta to record on Friday.
Speaker 5: Students gonna be trying to highlight you now, because in class,
Speaker 5: students trying to highlight you now, nephewew trying to hil
Speaker 5: at you.
Speaker 3: Your other two degrees that look Masters in Adult Education
Speaker 3: and then management and then I'm right now, I'm actually
Speaker 3: sam Houston University online working on my second Masters in
Speaker 3: Political science straight.
Speaker 1: Way law degree.
Speaker 6: So when you finish all of that, you're just gonna
Speaker 6: apply to what you're already doing. Do you have a
Speaker 6: new area you want to venture into?
Speaker 3: Know, I will still always being civil rights, don't doubt
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: But criminal defense it's very very important to me.
Speaker 3: My main thing that I advocate for is a criminalization
Speaker 3: of black men in particular and black folks, and we
Speaker 3: need more criminal defense lawyers.
Speaker 1: We really really do. If you look at the case
Speaker 1: right now with the Corrello Anthony that's going on in Frisco.
Speaker 5: Texas, not the basketball player, the right Texas As All.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Built my first two houses in Frisco, Texas being nine
Speaker 3: thirteen Blazing Star Road to Hunt one for one Old
Speaker 3: Promenade Road. So I'm very familiar with Frisco, very familiar
Speaker 3: with what he's up again shut out to do you
Speaker 3: know the case? I know a little bit about it.
Speaker 3: I just got briefed on it yesterday. Dominique Alexander, the
Speaker 3: Next Generation Action Network, he's doing the activism. He just
Speaker 3: gave me an award in January for Voice of the People,
Speaker 3: and so now I'm kind of getting involved within the
Speaker 3: last twenty four hours. But I know that the issues
Speaker 3: that he's going to be faced with, and so this
Speaker 3: is why again we need criminal defense. What Attorney Crump
Speaker 3: does is important. We need more civil rights attorneys. But
Speaker 3: I think I can be a beast at that defense table.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, well, we got a lot
Speaker 2: to talk about it, a lot to discuss.
Speaker 4: Where do you want to go? You got your laptop?
Speaker 3: You know, Well, no, I came to talk to you
Speaker 3: guys about push the line. I've talked to you about
Speaker 3: it many many times. My training program politics until something happens.
Speaker 3: It's a non partisan of political training. We did it
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. You remember at three hundred people
Speaker 3: that came from all over the country in Atlanta. They
Speaker 3: came from La Jersey, Houston, Dallas. I was overwhelmed to
Speaker 3: see how many people came in. They sat with me
Speaker 3: for twelve hours in the rain, waiting in the rain
Speaker 3: at seven am. And so people have asked, Haslam bring
Speaker 3: the program online, and so I finally got it online.
Speaker 3: It's a five course program. I'm the trainer, I save
Speaker 3: masters and education. Not to stunt because you know, I'm
Speaker 3: the hood whisper, but it's important that you know that
Speaker 3: because I actually built the curriculum. And so there's a
Speaker 3: lot of folks that build courses but may not know,
Speaker 3: you know, the technicalities of building a curriculum, having objectives
Speaker 3: and meeting those. So I've built the curriculum myself, and
Speaker 3: so now it's virtually online. I'm happy to go through the.
Speaker 2: Let's do it say so.
Speaker 3: Of course, one is called we are Soldiers, and what
Speaker 3: that is is is talking about the roads and responsibilities
Speaker 3: for candidates, campaign workers, organizers, and activists.
Speaker 1: So this training is even if you.
Speaker 3: Are a black conservative, I want you to know, come
Speaker 3: on in, if you are liberal, if you are progressive,
Speaker 3: if you are democratics, nonpartist, and I'm not pushing any agenda.
Speaker 3: I'm teaching you the basic fundamentals that you need. I've
Speaker 3: been a candidate myself. I've worked on campaign campaigns, state, local, federal.
Speaker 3: I was the only black person on the ground in
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen to flip Michigan for Bernie Sanders. I have
Speaker 3: been an activist obviously still am, and an organizer. So
Speaker 3: this training really brings all those things together and giving
Speaker 3: you information that the other trainings won't do. I've probably
Speaker 3: been to every major training Congression of Black Cautus Book,
Speaker 3: White House Project, Go Run Lead. Yale Law School for Women,
Speaker 3: they have a training. I have not found one that
Speaker 3: really breaks it down. One tells you the truth on
Speaker 3: what you're really gonna have to do to run, and
Speaker 3: so I just decided to create it myself. That first
Speaker 3: course is critically important. Now you can unroll now teslamfairgul
Speaker 3: dot com. There's course curriculum in there now for you
Speaker 3: to study there'll be a live interactive class with me
Speaker 3: on June fourteenth. If you miss it, it'll still be
Speaker 3: available for replay. So that's the good thing about it.
Speaker 3: But a lot of people don't understand roads and responsibilities
Speaker 3: and the difference between those two. And I'll just kind
Speaker 3: of give an example of you and I talk about
Speaker 3: it all the time, the difference between candidates and activists.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why you see a lot of
Speaker 3: candidates crashing out is because they're trying to be an
Speaker 3: activist and a candidate and an organizer and all these
Speaker 3: different things, and people don't really know the difference. And
Speaker 3: I blame the candidates for setting them up for that expectation.
Speaker 3: So to give you an example that we talk about
Speaker 3: it a lot. An elected official actually serves the constituents.
Speaker 3: So you'll hear a lot of people online, why is
Speaker 3: such and such black candidate talking about immigration?
Speaker 1: Why are they talking about this?
Speaker 3: Why they're not talking about black folks? Well they are,
Speaker 3: but you got to understand that candidate in Congress is
Speaker 3: representing two hundred thousand people, one hundred and fifty thousand people,
Speaker 3: and that job literally says to advocate for your constituents.
Speaker 1: So they have to take care of everybody. So that's
Speaker 1: why people's pissed.
Speaker 3: When they said, oh, vpare said, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: only do stuff with black people.
Speaker 1: I feel it.
Speaker 3: I understand what they meant, But what she was basically
Speaker 3: trying to say is you have to represent everybody, which
Speaker 3: is why would not be a good candidate. It's really
Speaker 3: important that you know where you fit. I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: a good candidate unless I'm in South Fulton, which is Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Outside of Atlanta, Georgia ninety eight percent black city commissioner.
Speaker 1: So I can talk about black issues.
Speaker 3: But if you're in Congress, run a president, you're talking
Speaker 3: about everybody. That's literally a part of their job and
Speaker 3: people have to be o. K was saying, that's not
Speaker 3: a good fit for me. An activist, and this is
Speaker 3: where people get confused, and activists is the one that
Speaker 3: is pushing the candidate, that is saying, hey, what about me?
Speaker 1: What about me?
Speaker 3: So, if that's reparations activists, immigration activists, healthcare activists, your
Speaker 3: job is to literally put pressure on the elected official.
Speaker 3: The elected official has to sit around and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: I got to take care a little bit of this.
Speaker 1: This is this squeaky oil, what they say squeaky or
Speaker 1: what's up? So your job is to push.
Speaker 3: However, because candidates, and this is where I criticize them,
Speaker 3: candidates elected officials don't work with activists the way that
Speaker 3: they should because you want to be at all, you
Speaker 3: want to be the candidate, You want to be the activist,
Speaker 3: you want to be the organizer.
Speaker 4: Are they scared to work with the activist because they
Speaker 4: think they'll get backlass right?
Speaker 3: Or they want to be on this microphone. You have
Speaker 3: over four hundred people in Congress. How many do you
Speaker 3: see on the microphone?
Speaker 1: A handful?
Speaker 3: So you have your Jasmine Crocketts, you have like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you have. But technically they're the elected official. Technically
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have to be on the microphone being the
Speaker 3: activist because what happens.
Speaker 1: Is what you see. And we had a big old
Speaker 1: group chat about this.
Speaker 3: What happens is if Jasmine Crockett is talking about all
Speaker 3: the different things immigration, I tell people lay off on
Speaker 3: being upset with her talking about immigration. She's in Texas,
Speaker 3: she must talk about immigration.
Speaker 1: So you have black people lying, oh, why is she
Speaker 1: talking about immigration?
Speaker 3: Because she represents people you know in Texas So when
Speaker 3: you have her having to be the activists because there's
Speaker 3: not leadership in the Democrat Party that's loud, or there's
Speaker 3: not activists on the ground that are loud enough, or
Speaker 3: they're not coordinating with those activists. And when I say coordinate,
Speaker 3: I mean give them money so that they can crash
Speaker 3: out on your behalf. Then now you have a candidate's
Speaker 3: trying to do it all. So what happens when she
Speaker 3: runs for office? When I looked at her Ballipedia, I
Speaker 3: think it was one hundred something thousand that voted in
Speaker 3: a general election.
Speaker 1: I look at that and I.
Speaker 3: See fifty thousand people in the primary that can move
Speaker 3: you out your seat. That's what happened to Representative Bowman,
Speaker 3: Jamal Bowman. When you are being the activist and he's
Speaker 3: talking about Godza, Godsa, Godza, Gaza, Gaza, and damn near
Speaker 3: half of your district is Orthodox Jews, they actually have
Speaker 3: the power to put you in and put you out.
Speaker 3: Not the podcast, not the national media. So when you're
Speaker 3: not coordinating with your activists, say hey, go run this play,
Speaker 3: run this offense, and let me do this, and you
Speaker 3: do that. That's how you see a lot of the
Speaker 3: issues and you set up false expectations for the elected official,
Speaker 3: and then the organizer is very different than the activists.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think that's the same. It's not
Speaker 3: the same. Perfect example, Rashida Taled in Detroit organized one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people to go to the polls. So most
Speaker 3: of the people you see online these podcasts are activists.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, reparation now.
Speaker 3: Reparation that that's important, you know, healthcare now, healthcare now.
Speaker 3: But organizing, it's actually getting people in the room. Like
Speaker 3: we did at the town hall of weeks ago. I
Speaker 3: had in Atlanta, one hundred and fifty people standing outside
Speaker 3: in the ring.
Speaker 1: That's organizing. Screaming and yelling is one thing.
Speaker 3: But getting one hundred thousand people to go to the
Speaker 3: polls to say we are voting no commitment, that is
Speaker 3: actually organizing, which is why Tamika always says.
Speaker 1: I'm an organizer first.
Speaker 3: So when you understand these roles and responsibilities, now you
Speaker 3: can know your role, which is pushed the line. My
Speaker 3: logo has a person pushing the P, the U, the S,
Speaker 3: the H. Everybody like at this table has a role.
Speaker 3: If you know your role and then we know how
Speaker 3: to work together. Now we can move forward on an agenda.
Speaker 1: I have a question.
Speaker 6: Yeah with politics today though, Like when I look at
Speaker 6: like Trump, I feel like he you know, he doesn't
Speaker 6: stay within any lines or anything things that you just said.
Speaker 6: Do you feel like there's is changed now because he's
Speaker 6: changed the way that politicians moving what they say and
Speaker 6: what they stand for. Like he he pushes whatever he
Speaker 6: wants to spec and he's successful at it. So how
Speaker 6: do you kind of counter what he's doing and kind
Speaker 6: of making where the people that you're raising up on
Speaker 6: either side are just as strong voice wise? Is what
Speaker 6: we see him do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not about really countering it.
Speaker 3: See, one of the one of the modules that I
Speaker 3: have is is called it's not about weed, It's about me.
Speaker 3: If you are already strategizing to be against somebody and
Speaker 3: not doing your role like you always say, just stay consistent,
Speaker 3: don't compete with anybody, do your role. Push the line
Speaker 3: is not about trying to focus on Trump or focused
Speaker 3: on what Republican parties are doing, because Trump never.
Speaker 1: Focused on you. He never focused on the Democrat party.
Speaker 3: So when people set that up to say, I know,
Speaker 3: it felt good when they say, oh, Rock Obama, he's
Speaker 3: everybody's president. Actually, you're really the president of the people
Speaker 3: that vote you in. I know people don't want to
Speaker 3: hear that, but it's really catering to who votes you,
Speaker 3: who puts you in. That's just like my household. I'm
Speaker 3: catering to my man, not catering to what your man say.
Speaker 3: Who what somebody else man say. So Trump has done
Speaker 3: and they hate it when I say this because they
Speaker 3: say he don't.
Speaker 6: He don't.
Speaker 1: He didn't do a good job.
Speaker 3: He's a liar. No, I'm not saying I like it.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you how it is. It's a different between
Speaker 3: how it is and how you want it to be.
Speaker 3: He is only talking to his base, even though you know,
Speaker 3: good day, well, he cannot dismantle the Department of Education
Speaker 3: because Congress is going to have to do it. He
Speaker 3: don't give them about that. He signed an executive varder
Speaker 3: saying let's dismantle it. We beg for those things, you remember,
Speaker 3: Charlotte Mane, Like, why don't y'all just doing executive vad
Speaker 3: for the George Floyd Justice and Police and Act. But
Speaker 3: everybody's so smart in the Democrat part. That's not how
Speaker 3: it work. You gotta go through Congress.
Speaker 2: You gotta go.
Speaker 3: People want to know you at least fighting you, at
Speaker 3: least in the ring. You willing to sock somebody in
Speaker 3: the eye, You're willing to take you willing to fight
Speaker 3: for my love. You know what they say every night,
Speaker 3: I gotta fight for my love.
Speaker 4: I think it's a combination of both though, because Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: did you know, he did call them the woke left,
Speaker 4: and he did say that the Democrats are the enemy
Speaker 4: from within. But he didn't just run a campaign of
Speaker 4: Democrats are bad, Democrats are bad, Democrats are bad. He
Speaker 4: actually said these are the things I want to do
Speaker 4: for my constituents as well. I think Democrats just run
Speaker 4: a whole Trump is Bad campaign, but they don't ever
Speaker 4: tell the constituents exactly what it is they want to do.
Speaker 3: For right And they also don't teach constituents how to
Speaker 3: do it. They're terrible with training, which is why started
Speaker 3: this training program. Also, Trump is an organizer and an
Speaker 3: activist and a candidate and a marketer and an entertainer.
Speaker 3: He makes everything a spectacle, He makes everything a big deal.
Speaker 3: He always knows how to play to the camera. All
Speaker 3: of the things that the Democrats feel they too good
Speaker 3: to do. And so I'm just gonna tell you like
Speaker 3: straight o, oh no, don't do that.
Speaker 1: That's not president.
Speaker 3: He doesn't give a damn. And so when you he's
Speaker 3: been campaigning for the last eight years, Yeah, he's campointing out.
Speaker 1: We say that, he's literally campaigning.
Speaker 3: When you have a rally every month, every other month,
Speaker 3: that's actually organizing, getting people in the room. They pop
Speaker 3: out crazy. So he's been doing that the whole time.
Speaker 3: You it's hard to catch up with that. It's hard
Speaker 3: to catch up when you've been talking. It's not a
Speaker 3: matter of how many people you have. Conservatives are the
Speaker 3: majority minority of this country. So it's not about who's
Speaker 3: the biggest, it's about.
Speaker 1: Who's the strongest.
Speaker 3: That's why I'd like to use la gang banging for
Speaker 3: those who grew up in the night. The Bloods were
Speaker 3: always the smallest, but they also were the most powerful.
Speaker 3: How did Inglewood survive with crips all around it?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Because they knew how to push the line, which, by
Speaker 3: the way, that's what blood say, push the line.
Speaker 1: Crips say press the line.
Speaker 3: So when you're able to take a small group, organize
Speaker 3: consistent message, message message, conservatives have the best And again
Speaker 3: don't come from me in a coma. I don't give that,
Speaker 3: y'all coman in comments or not. They have the digital
Speaker 3: discipline that you do not have on the left. You
Speaker 3: do not have that on the left. Conservatives listen to
Speaker 3: podcasts or what they listened to Am talk radio. We
Speaker 3: talked about this before, all the way into work and
Speaker 3: our commute, messaging, messaging, messaging. They go in their job,
Speaker 3: they listen to a podcast. Seventy percent of podcast listeners
Speaker 3: are white, which is why we were doing that black effect.
Speaker 3: It's so important. So then they had work messaging, messaging, messing.
Speaker 1: Bad, bad, bad, enemy, enemy, enemy and enemy.
Speaker 3: Then they go home and they watch Fox News. Then
Speaker 3: they get in the comments. I try to teach people
Speaker 3: how to be the comment caucus talk about that too.
Speaker 3: They stay on it like we stay on it with
Speaker 3: Shade Room. They stay on it non stop. Look at
Speaker 3: the interview that I did here with Vivid Rama Sami
Speaker 3: is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: Then people still commenting on that. I'llset them so much.
Speaker 1: They are still coming on that. Do you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: If you knew this, Joe Biden, you would say that's
Speaker 3: probably one of the most popular interviews that you had,
Speaker 3: you ain't black.
Speaker 1: Go look at the comments under YouTube. Under YouTube, I.
Speaker 3: Think the last time I checked it might have been
Speaker 3: twenty thousand something comments under the vivid rama, same interview.
Speaker 3: The last time I checked, fifty thousand comments, and Joe
Speaker 3: Biden had millions of views. We only hear a couple
Speaker 3: of hundred thousand. But look at the engagement then. People
Speaker 3: was on my ass every day, angry masculin. They made
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty videos about me. They shut up
Speaker 3: to y'all though, did they know how to message over
Speaker 3: and over and over even if it's wrong, and so
Speaker 3: you don't see that on the left, and so I
Speaker 3: don't give them as left. All right, I want to
Speaker 3: see more in our communities know how to mess the
Speaker 3: same way y'all followed gossip the same way y'all followed it.
Speaker 3: If we have that same type of organizing, which by
Speaker 3: the way, is course to called the ambition of a rider.
Speaker 3: It's talking about community coalition building, how to be the
Speaker 3: common caucus, how to make sure you clicking, like, how
Speaker 3: to get the engagement. You have to be very strategic
Speaker 3: in this, and if you're not, we don't get anywhere.
Speaker 2: So now I agree with that. I say, I agree
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 4: I also think that that's why when somebody, when you
Speaker 4: see somebody scoring points, you just got to keep feeding
Speaker 4: them the ball. Republicans did that with Trump once they
Speaker 4: saw that Trump is the guy that the media gravitates towards,
Speaker 4: and this is who people are listening to. That's the guy,
Speaker 4: and I think Democrats don't do enough of that. If
Speaker 4: it's AOC, give it the ball. If it's Javin Crockett,
Speaker 4: give it a ball. If it's Bernie Sanders, give them
Speaker 4: the ball. Those are the people that folks are gravitating towards.
Speaker 4: Right now, you just had a rally.
Speaker 2: In LA I think.
Speaker 4: Thousand people. That's what I'm saying, Like, if that's the
Speaker 4: people who folks are gravitating towards, that's who needs to
Speaker 4: be getting the ball, right.
Speaker 3: My criticism, well not criticism, I'll push you back with that.
Speaker 3: What Bernie Sanders is because working on his campaign twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: they did great getting people to the rallies, but you
Speaker 3: couldn't get them to the polls. So it's great to
Speaker 3: stand up there and say, hey, y'all, this is bullshit,
Speaker 3: But if you're not giving people the tools which again,
Speaker 3: this is why this training is so important. If you're
Speaker 3: just saying get involved in your community, a lot of
Speaker 3: people literally don't know how. They literally need they step
Speaker 3: by step guide. Democrats should be running a play. You
Speaker 3: should see commercials just as much as they ran y'all
Speaker 3: commercials every fifteen minuts. It should be who want to run,
Speaker 3: who want to run, who want to run, who want
Speaker 3: to work on a campaign?
Speaker 1: Who want to work on a campaign?
Speaker 3: Constant y'all raised one hundred million dollars in ninety days.
Speaker 3: Where's one hundred million dollars to actually train people? Just
Speaker 3: so we clear, nothing is back. People pay for the course,
Speaker 3: but nothing is back in me. It's not a Republican,
Speaker 3: it's not a Democrat, it's not any of that. Why
Speaker 3: are they not using that money to train you how
Speaker 3: to run for local office? You have mid terms next year,
Speaker 3: then you need to train people how to actually work
Speaker 3: on the campaign. There's a lack of infrastructure. One of
Speaker 3: the reasons Rashida to leave was seven four or five
Speaker 3: six black people that ran against Sheida leaving Detroit. They
Speaker 3: had to hire a friend of mine from Kansas City
Speaker 3: to run the campaign because of the act of infrastructure
Speaker 3: of knowing how to run a campaign, how to be
Speaker 3: a volunteer coordinator, how to be a campaign manager, how
Speaker 3: to be a comms director. So they don't build up
Speaker 3: the infrastructure, which means you don't have a bench. It's
Speaker 3: not just getting a good candidate. You also need your organizers,
Speaker 3: you need your campaign workers. And that's what my criticism
Speaker 3: is of Bernie Sanders and anybody that's doing a rally.
Speaker 1: You're not training these people. You're getting them upset.
Speaker 2: But for what I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 5: You know a lot of times democrats get but hurt
Speaker 5: a lot when you ask them, when you push back
Speaker 5: on a lot of the things that they say, why
Speaker 5: do you think that is? It almost feels like they
Speaker 5: are upset when we question the things that we should
Speaker 5: be able to question.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of ego in politics, which is
Speaker 3: one of the things again that we teach that I
Speaker 3: teach you the thing to remove your ego out the way,
Speaker 3: meaning not about me, not about way, it's about me.
Speaker 1: They know it all. I'm just gonna be straight up
Speaker 1: honest with you. They know it all.
Speaker 3: They know it all, but seem to not know how
Speaker 3: to win consistently. You have people who are highly educated
Speaker 3: in what they do. Again, I'm not anti education. I
Speaker 3: love degrees, the more the better, but they just refuse
Speaker 3: many of them, not all, but refuse to really connect
Speaker 3: to the concrete. I go by concrete roots, not mud,
Speaker 3: because mud is too soften me. I got this shit
Speaker 3: out the concrete, not a manager, not an agent.
Speaker 1: Now, my family was in this. Now somebody put me on.
Speaker 3: So they can't have those conversations, and they don't know.
Speaker 1: How to give the play. Give a ball to the people.
Speaker 3: They can have a conversation, but you know why, because
Speaker 3: they want to be on microphone envy. It's just like
Speaker 3: a rapper, like they have to be the one on
Speaker 3: the microphone instead of saying, you know what, such and such, No,
Speaker 3: how to talk to this group, Let me give them
Speaker 3: the play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to see Hakeem Jeffreys. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: want to see AOC. I want to see Jasmine. I
Speaker 4: want to see those people. That's really the problem.
Speaker 3: But then there's also people that they can't connect to
Speaker 3: as well. Why are you not connecting to the streets
Speaker 3: in California? Well, Governor Newson, who to me, don't have
Speaker 3: a shot in hell on the national level, but still
Speaker 3: very good pushing this message. I know, with some homies
Speaker 3: right now and there later, it would organize. Right now,
Speaker 3: who's never voted, who's never because of what he did
Speaker 3: with the gang enhansment and what he's done with healthcare.
Speaker 3: You hear a lot bad about California, but healthcare, what
Speaker 3: do you.
Speaker 4: Call the streets storreuse? I mean Bernie and Eils. He
Speaker 4: did just have thirty six thousand people.
Speaker 1: In that way.
Speaker 3: But there's still a demographic people that are not involved
Speaker 3: at all, people that don't give a damn about none
Speaker 3: of this Bernie Sanders demographic. And I'm just gonna be honest,
Speaker 3: the progressive demographic. The Rainbow Coalition is white liberals, pretty
Speaker 3: much white progressives. There's still a lack of talking to
Speaker 3: those that are completely given up, completely disenfranchised obviously. And
Speaker 3: also a Coachella the average chicken was seven eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Well, no, that wasn't Coachella. Bernie came out of Coachella,
Speaker 4: but they had a whole other event too. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: came out to coach, but they had a whole other bit.
Speaker 1: Working on that campaign. I'm just gonna be straight up
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm very clear about my position with Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1: He is talking to a very progressive white Wrean movement.
Speaker 3: To me, now, even if your hispanic is still white adjacent,
Speaker 3: it's still that's just as long as everybody, as long
Speaker 3: as we get everybody who make money out the way,
Speaker 3: as long as everybody make fifteen dollars an hour, all
Speaker 3: will be well. He struggles with dealing with race. I'm
Speaker 3: saying that as his former racial justice director. Also, everybody
Speaker 3: ain't mad at rich people. Charlotte Maine like some people
Speaker 3: really trying to get the bag. So those conversation, I
Speaker 3: know what they mean with the elite the top.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the fighting oligarchy towards a
Speaker 4: good message. But I think it's a hippo. Well, it's
Speaker 4: not a hypocritical message from Bernie Sanders in AOC, but
Speaker 4: from the majority of the Democratic Party is a hypocritical
Speaker 4: message because they are all taking money from the billionaires
Speaker 4: in the corporate life.
Speaker 1: What hood don't know who the oligary is.
Speaker 2: How do you say it?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't you know, when the people talking
Speaker 3: about neoliberal they don't know what you're talking about. So
Speaker 3: there's different messages that people need to have to engage.
Speaker 3: And I think the Democrat Party ten.
Speaker 1: Is too big. It's too big.
Speaker 3: It needs to be broken down. Everybody's not gonna relate
Speaker 3: to Bernie Sanders. Everybody not gonna relate to AOC, Everybody
Speaker 3: not gonna relate to jazzmon Crocket, everybod not gonna relate
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: So that's why everybody should be doing it. If everybody doesn't, little.
Speaker 1: Nobody, that's right.
Speaker 3: And again, local state, we gotta stop this fascination with
Speaker 3: federal We really really do. All of your powers. Is
Speaker 3: your city commissioner, your mayor. They are managing billion dollars,
Speaker 3: you know, budgets. Look at Atlanta, the Black Mecca. The
Speaker 3: mayor get to decide who gonna get this grant, who's
Speaker 3: gonna get this funding, How do we keep this program going,
Speaker 3: how do we keep the after school program going?
Speaker 1: Okay, if y'all don't want to do it, we're gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out. It's the local.
Speaker 6: I think it's because the local government, even though when
Speaker 6: you when you get old enough to understand that the
Speaker 6: local government is not like the glitten of glamour.
Speaker 1: Isn't there right? They want the sex.
Speaker 6: I feel like when Keisha Lan's Bottoms was mayor in Atlanta,
Speaker 6: the bottom was mayor in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: She did a good job of like you knew who
Speaker 1: she was, even.
Speaker 6: If you didn't live in Atlanta, like you you cared
Speaker 6: about what she was doing, even if you didn't live there,
Speaker 6: like she was a talking point. But a lot of
Speaker 6: local government people don't do that, like you don't know, they.
Speaker 1: Don't need to do it. It's called actually serving your constituents. See.
Speaker 3: So again, this is where I go back to these politicians.
Speaker 3: I appreciate what they're doing. Don't get me wrong, because
Speaker 3: we need the voices because you don't see it. Damn
Speaker 3: shure and not coming from the Democrat party. But Keisha
Speaker 3: need to be worrying about Keisha's constituents all of this.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a national spokesperson and all of that.
Speaker 1: That's how you get.
Speaker 3: You end up crashing out, That's how you get out
Speaker 3: of office. That's how you get your constituents seeing you
Speaker 3: at the grocery store, they're seeing you at church. They
Speaker 3: don't care about you trying to be no voice for
Speaker 3: everybody else. They're concerned with are you taking care of
Speaker 3: these one hundred thousand people in your district or two
Speaker 3: hundred thousand people in your district. It's not about you
Speaker 3: can't get Keisha in and you can't get her out.
Speaker 1: You have zero power.
Speaker 3: So she can get on these podcasts mikes if they
Speaker 3: want to, but at the end of the day, they
Speaker 3: not vote. They don't vote for you, So either you
Speaker 3: want to be an elected official or do you want
Speaker 3: to be a podcaster.
Speaker 4: I agree, but I think sometimes it's not your fault.
Speaker 4: Like in Keisha's case, I don't think it was her fault.
Speaker 4: She just happened to be a black woman who was
Speaker 4: the mayor of Atlanta. So, like all the rappers were
Speaker 4: talking about it, but what was the slogan on Atlanta
Speaker 4: got a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm definitely not blaming her. I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: using that name for it.
Speaker 6: To her because she's the only person. I just think
Speaker 6: about it, like locally in Delaware, like you would know
Speaker 6: because like you said, you see them, you hear them.
Speaker 6: But outside of Brother's, Delaware, Philly, wherever, you don't just
Speaker 6: know of these people. And I think a lot of
Speaker 6: it is because even if they're not at the microphones.
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's just local level is not glamorized that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes Marion Barry, like you didn't.
Speaker 3: But guess what, they could never get him out. I
Speaker 3: encourage people to go watch The Ten Lives the Nine
Speaker 3: Lives of Marion Barry.
Speaker 1: Scandal or not.
Speaker 3: They could not get him out. You know why they
Speaker 3: could because he was doing the work. He was doing
Speaker 3: the work. When you do the work, like shout out
Speaker 3: to Eric Maids, my friend rest in peace, shout out
Speaker 3: to y'all seen Eric Mays be CUsing people.
Speaker 1: When you're doing the work, people will know about you.
Speaker 3: But you couldnot get Eric Mays out of office for nothing,
Speaker 3: because he took care of his district. This is a
Speaker 3: district conversation. Even Congress, it's still a district. It's still
Speaker 3: a local conversation. So when you get out on these
Speaker 3: microphones and you're because I've seen it happen real time,
Speaker 3: and you're trying to please all of these different different
Speaker 3: constituents that can't vote for you because I want to
Speaker 3: say what this what they want me to say?
Speaker 1: I want to say what they want.
Speaker 2: Me to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, the people that's actually voting for you are the
Speaker 3: ones that make the decision. So you don't hear about it, Lauren,
Speaker 3: because they're doing their job, but they should. Those candidates
Speaker 3: should also stop trying to be seen all the time,
Speaker 3: which I think is important.
Speaker 1: I'm not dising not because they don't have a choice.
Speaker 3: The Jasmines and all that don't have a choice cause
Speaker 3: ain't nobody else stepping up.
Speaker 1: So this is not shitting on earth.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I wish they would work more with
Speaker 3: activists and fund those activists because they're crashing out. Literally,
Speaker 3: they can't get jobs, they can't go transition anywhere. Fund
Speaker 3: those activists to run that play for you so that
Speaker 3: you can actually be in office to vote Corey Bush.
Speaker 1: Jamal Bowman. They're no longer in Congress.
Speaker 3: They can't vote for nothing because when they were pushing
Speaker 3: those issues, which is important, but the district said otherwise.
Speaker 3: So you got the money, say yeah, push push push
Speaker 3: push push, but your dishes said we're gonna do something different.
Speaker 3: So now you don't even have an ally that can
Speaker 3: actually vote, you know, to make a difference.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I mean.
Speaker 5: Do you what do you say to people that they
Speaker 5: always feel like it's a money player, like both sides
Speaker 5: of money player.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: They look at democrats and they see, for instance, Eric
Speaker 5: Adams was the mayor of New York City who a
Speaker 5: lot of people voted for him because he was a Democrat.
Speaker 5: Then you see him buddy buddy with Trump and then
Speaker 5: Trump partnering him. Or you see Kamala Harris giving a
Speaker 5: lot of these organizations money, whether it was Al Sharpton or.
Speaker 2: Roland Martin, and then they do interviews with him.
Speaker 5: And of course if people feel like if you give
Speaker 5: me money, I can't I can't be part I have
Speaker 5: to be partial to you. So how do you feel
Speaker 5: when people look at those things?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, one course for a stand on business that talks
Speaker 3: about legal compliance and how to really work with that
Speaker 3: money so you don't go to jail.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the courtses.
Speaker 3: That's why that's one of the poses of course three,
Speaker 3: and this is all in one course. Thinking of a
Speaker 3: master plan also talks about that your rolemap on literally
Speaker 3: how you novervigate that.
Speaker 1: So I teach that.
Speaker 5: Because if you give me money and I interview you,
Speaker 5: can I be partial or I just be on your side.
Speaker 2: The whole time, because I know I gotta check coming
Speaker 2: that means to be real.
Speaker 3: I mean the people that you're talking about that you
Speaker 3: name their staunch Democrats. So whether it's a check or
Speaker 3: not a check, all.
Speaker 2: Gonna push back, Like you know, these same people have
Speaker 2: been up pare.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we haven't been paid for nothing, but we asked
Speaker 5: questions on both sides, like we want, we ask for
Speaker 5: the people, we don't ask to be a friend.
Speaker 4: Well again, were getting paid the money, my dumb ass
Speaker 4: out here for no reason?
Speaker 3: Right, Well, no, but it ain't just for the Like,
Speaker 3: let's go on and really talk about this, let's have
Speaker 3: a conversation. It's for the people. But the people need
Speaker 3: they gotta have. You gotta have money to run any
Speaker 3: damn thing. So at the end of the day, how
Speaker 3: if money is not being spent to organize on the ground,
Speaker 3: if you're not buying ads from black effective So it
Speaker 3: is a money play. America's money. This is a capitalist society.
Speaker 3: I know the progression want to tell y'all something different,
Speaker 3: but it's about money, and you.
Speaker 1: Should be buying votes. Yes, they should be going down.
Speaker 3: If I had one hundred million dollars, every Little League
Speaker 3: of program, every.
Speaker 1: Uniform that need to get bought in the hood. I'll
Speaker 1: be buying it.
Speaker 3: Like those are the things that you need to do
Speaker 3: in order so people can see something tangible, so they
Speaker 3: can say, you know what, they did do something in
Speaker 3: my community. So again, Lord, this is why the local
Speaker 3: and state is important. Your city commissioner can go do that.
Speaker 3: They can go do that in Orlando Black.
Speaker 1: Business Investment Fund, Here go one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Start your business. You can't get out that commission that person.
Speaker 3: They're gonna ride for that commissioner. So it is a
Speaker 3: money play Inmby. But a lot of the people have
Speaker 3: been getting the same money over and over and over.
Speaker 1: And guess what happened. They found out that they don't
Speaker 1: have a motion that they used to.
Speaker 3: So now a lot of the same folks and I'm
Speaker 3: shit understanding you what it is. Now they're having a
Speaker 3: partner with people they never thought about partner before because
Speaker 3: you don't went up there and told in people that
Speaker 3: you have motion. And the results in the last election
Speaker 3: shows you really don't have emotions no more. The street
Speaker 3: don't believe you anymore. You're talking to the same people
Speaker 3: over and over and over. This is no disrespect. But
Speaker 3: if the Urban League is hosting an event with none
Speaker 3: but the Urban League people in the audience.
Speaker 1: Those people are already voting. You're not talking to the.
Speaker 3: People who are not voting. You have to bring in
Speaker 3: new people. That's how we win elections. In Orlando, Commissioner
Speaker 3: Regina Hill arrested twenty one times, ran against twenty one
Speaker 3: year incumbent.
Speaker 1: It was just three of us on the campaign.
Speaker 3: We went and got three four thousand people that never
Speaker 3: thought about being in the process.
Speaker 1: And snuck them in and put them in a game.
Speaker 1: That's how you win. They don't want to do that
Speaker 1: in because they don't want to spend the money. They
Speaker 1: think they know every damn thing. They want. They contracts.
Speaker 1: I keep it real. They want they contracts. They want access.
Speaker 1: Most of the people that are still grieving right.
Speaker 3: Now over the losses that are still going through the
Speaker 3: five stages agreed, are pissed because they don't have access
Speaker 3: to the White House.
Speaker 1: Not by default, they care about the people.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they don't care about the people, not
Speaker 3: saying they're not doing it for the right reasons. But
Speaker 3: a lot of this is I need to be able
Speaker 3: to say I make it quite yes, he go, yeah,
Speaker 3: what else?
Speaker 4: What's the other one?
Speaker 3: Okay, so to stand on business talking about that. The
Speaker 3: fifth one is show me my opponent. That's where your opponent.
Speaker 3: You really know who your opponent is, because even if
Speaker 3: you might think it's just the candidate, you might think
Speaker 3: it's just the other campaign team. But even as an
Speaker 3: activist and an organizer, you have an opponent. You need
Speaker 3: to know what you're fighting against, what you're standing for,
Speaker 3: how they're gonna try to put you out the game,
Speaker 3: to crash out, you know, all of those different things.
Speaker 1: All five of these courses are cumulative.
Speaker 3: You can sign up for each one, you know, individually
Speaker 3: if you want, it's only fifty bucks. That's two hours
Speaker 3: with me live course in additional course materials that are
Speaker 3: already there right now for you to study and quiz.
Speaker 3: So you just think about twenty five bucks an hour,
Speaker 3: two hour class fifteen hundred dollars value, by the way.
Speaker 3: So you can take each course individually, but I recommend
Speaker 3: people take all five because they all work together. I
Speaker 3: layer it like we did in this conversation so that
Speaker 3: it just kind of makes sense.
Speaker 4: And this is for people who want to actually run
Speaker 4: in their own local.
Speaker 1: No, it's for if you think you want to run. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you want to run.
Speaker 3: If you already run it, because more than likely you running,
Speaker 3: you're doing fifty different jobs if you run on local.
Speaker 3: It's also for campaign workers if you want to work
Speaker 3: on a campaign, if you want to be a campaign manager,
Speaker 3: vounding coordinator. It's also for organizers and say, you know what,
Speaker 3: I want to push an initiative. I want to get
Speaker 3: an initiative on the ballot to say we want local reparations.
Speaker 3: And then it's also for activists people who say I
Speaker 3: don't want to do any of those things, but I
Speaker 3: just want to be online and I want to create
Speaker 3: some noise.
Speaker 1: So it's all five.
Speaker 3: I'm addressing all five all at the same time because
Speaker 3: the fundamentals are the same. So you'll get your individual
Speaker 3: and right now you'll see on the course you'll get
Speaker 3: your individual materials.
Speaker 1: But I'm weaving it together so that it all makes sense.
Speaker 3: So if you don't know what the hell you want
Speaker 3: to do, and you're like, I'm just gonna come to
Speaker 3: the first one for roles and responsibilities just to get
Speaker 3: an idea because I want to do something, then this
Speaker 3: is the course for you.
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