WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Tezlyn Figaro Talks 'Push The Line,' Trump & Conservatives, Bernie Sanders, Buying Votes + More 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.480 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:08.760 Breakfast Club Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess, Hilariy Charlamage 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:10.799 the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Low LaRosa is 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.040 here as well, and we got a special guest in 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:13.600 the building. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.640 The hood was for a family. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:22.200 I'm not special guests. Breakfast Club family here. Good morning, morning, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:23.320 good morning, good morning. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.480 Good morning. How are you feeling, I'm feeling good. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.680 Congratulations I saw that you officially got accepted in the 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:29.640 FAMI you law school. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:35.400 Yes, absolutely, yes, thank you for the saying that. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:40.360 Yes, I'm very excited. Fam you HBCU very very important. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.159 My daughter shout out to my daughter Jada, she actually 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.800 got into pray View. Okay, she'll be going on scholarship. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.239 And mom were taking advantage of my empty nest situation 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:50.760 and going. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.160 To law school. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.880 I mean you decided because you already got two degrees, right, yes. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:54.880 You want to go get a third. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.760 I've always wanted to get my law degree, even though 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.000 I've worked with Attorney Crump as a senior public holuer 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.080 let's advise, as you know for the last ten years, 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.600 just wasn't able to do it, you know, having a 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.200 daughter running a business three hundred employees in Atlanta. Hustling 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.240 working your first year of law school is really like 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.720 a hazing, Like you really have to be able to, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.000 you know, focus. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:17.640 I've always had to worry about getting money. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.240 So I want to say thank you to you for 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.600 the black Efake podcast network because without that, knowing that 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.080 I can at least have some type of income coming in, 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.199 that's really a lot of why it's made possible so 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.319 that your critics could never Just. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:35.840 That's really really important. You know. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.720 It's it's not like I'm wealthy or you know, anything 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.920 like that. But one of the things of law school. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.360 It took me over a decade to finish my bachelor's 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.840 I had to stop start stop, start stop start because 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:46.360 of money. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.360 You know, need Do I got to work full time? 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.720 Do I have to be a teacher, substitute? All those 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:51.400 different things? 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.480 So to really finish the law school program, you need 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.120 a job, and how do you do that and still study? 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.360 So I am part time because I'm still cheap local 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.720 corresponding they revolte news and managing editor over there. But 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.040 now I can kind of breathe, and you know, I 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.240 got some income coming in. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.200 So shout out to. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.919 Will you actually go to class and school there. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:16.120 What I know you always asked them about online. Yes, No, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.799 I will be in class in Orlando, Florida, going back 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.960 to Orlando, finishing up some which is. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:21.799 A full circle for me. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.480 I sut to leave when due to healthcare reform and 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.720 I lost my business. So no, it's actually Monday through Thursday, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.880 and then I'll be going to Atlanta to record on Friday. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.240 Students gonna be trying to highlight you now, because in class, 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:39.400 students trying to highlight you now, nephewew trying to hil 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:39.600 at you. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.160 Your other two degrees that look Masters in Adult Education 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.520 and then management and then I'm right now, I'm actually 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.400 sam Houston University online working on my second Masters in 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.720 Political science straight. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.680 Way law degree. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.799 So when you finish all of that, you're just gonna 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.280 apply to what you're already doing. Do you have a 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.480 new area you want to venture into? 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.280 Know, I will still always being civil rights, don't doubt 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:02.680 about that. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.440 But criminal defense it's very very important to me. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.279 My main thing that I advocate for is a criminalization 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.280 of black men in particular and black folks, and we 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:12.720 need more criminal defense lawyers. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.040 We really really do. If you look at the case 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.880 right now with the Corrello Anthony that's going on in Frisco. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:22.520 Texas, not the basketball player, the right Texas As All. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:23.080 Yeah, yeah, I. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.239 Built my first two houses in Frisco, Texas being nine 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.600 thirteen Blazing Star Road to Hunt one for one Old 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.280 Promenade Road. So I'm very familiar with Frisco, very familiar 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.200 with what he's up again shut out to do you 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.680 know the case? I know a little bit about it. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.080 I just got briefed on it yesterday. Dominique Alexander, the 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.240 Next Generation Action Network, he's doing the activism. He just 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.960 gave me an award in January for Voice of the People, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.480 and so now I'm kind of getting involved within the 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.280 last twenty four hours. But I know that the issues 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.960 that he's going to be faced with, and so this 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.720 is why again we need criminal defense. What Attorney Crump 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.800 does is important. We need more civil rights attorneys. But 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.520 I think I can be a beast at that defense table. 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.120 I think so too. Yeah, well, we got a lot 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.680 to talk about it, a lot to discuss. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.280 Where do you want to go? You got your laptop? 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.640 You know, Well, no, I came to talk to you 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.159 guys about push the line. I've talked to you about 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:20.239 it many many times. My training program politics until something happens. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.120 It's a non partisan of political training. We did it 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.160 in twenty twenty two. You remember at three hundred people 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.920 that came from all over the country in Atlanta. They 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.479 came from La Jersey, Houston, Dallas. I was overwhelmed to 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.240 see how many people came in. They sat with me 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.000 for twelve hours in the rain, waiting in the rain 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.080 at seven am. And so people have asked, Haslam bring 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.600 the program online, and so I finally got it online. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.400 It's a five course program. I'm the trainer, I save 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.280 masters and education. Not to stunt because you know, I'm 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.760 the hood whisper, but it's important that you know that 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.599 because I actually built the curriculum. And so there's a 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.839 lot of folks that build courses but may not know, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.440 you know, the technicalities of building a curriculum, having objectives 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.120 and meeting those. So I've built the curriculum myself, and 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:13.120 so now it's virtually online. I'm happy to go through the. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.640 Let's do it say so. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.719 Of course, one is called we are Soldiers, and what 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.680 that is is is talking about the roads and responsibilities 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.880 for candidates, campaign workers, organizers, and activists. 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.520 So this training is even if you. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.599 Are a black conservative, I want you to know, come 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.080 on in, if you are liberal, if you are progressive, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.120 if you are democratics, nonpartist, and I'm not pushing any agenda. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.520 I'm teaching you the basic fundamentals that you need. I've 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:41.880 been a candidate myself. I've worked on campaign campaigns, state, local, federal. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.359 I was the only black person on the ground in 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.240 twenty fifteen to flip Michigan for Bernie Sanders. I have 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.520 been an activist obviously still am, and an organizer. So 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:55.279 this training really brings all those things together and giving 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.640 you information that the other trainings won't do. I've probably 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.000 been to every major training Congression of Black Cautus Book, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.960 White House Project, Go Run Lead. Yale Law School for Women, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.800 they have a training. I have not found one that 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.560 really breaks it down. One tells you the truth on 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.240 what you're really gonna have to do to run, and 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.279 so I just decided to create it myself. That first 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.760 course is critically important. Now you can unroll now teslamfairgul 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.400 dot com. There's course curriculum in there now for you 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.200 to study there'll be a live interactive class with me 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.200 on June fourteenth. If you miss it, it'll still be 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.640 available for replay. So that's the good thing about it. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.440 But a lot of people don't understand roads and responsibilities 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.640 and the difference between those two. And I'll just kind 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.719 of give an example of you and I talk about 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.840 it all the time, the difference between candidates and activists. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.440 One of the reasons why you see a lot of 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.640 candidates crashing out is because they're trying to be an 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.760 activist and a candidate and an organizer and all these 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.039 different things, and people don't really know the difference. And 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.440 I blame the candidates for setting them up for that expectation. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.120 So to give you an example that we talk about 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:07.960 it a lot. An elected official actually serves the constituents. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.320 So you'll hear a lot of people online, why is 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.840 such and such black candidate talking about immigration? 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:14.320 Why are they talking about this? 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.480 Why they're not talking about black folks? Well they are, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.600 but you got to understand that candidate in Congress is 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.119 representing two hundred thousand people, one hundred and fifty thousand people, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.440 and that job literally says to advocate for your constituents. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.240 So they have to take care of everybody. So that's 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:30.440 why people's pissed. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.080 When they said, oh, vpare said, I'm not going to 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.320 only do stuff with black people. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:34.080 I feel it. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.800 I understand what they meant, But what she was basically 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.320 trying to say is you have to represent everybody, which 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.520 is why would not be a good candidate. It's really 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.000 important that you know where you fit. I wouldn't be 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.360 a good candidate unless I'm in South Fulton, which is Atlanta. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.320 Outside of Atlanta, Georgia ninety eight percent black city commissioner. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.280 So I can talk about black issues. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.560 But if you're in Congress, run a president, you're talking 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.240 about everybody. That's literally a part of their job and 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.320 people have to be o. K was saying, that's not 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.680 a good fit for me. An activist, and this is 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.040 where people get confused, and activists is the one that 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.840 is pushing the candidate, that is saying, hey, what about me? 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:11.400 What about me? 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:16.440 So, if that's reparations activists, immigration activists, healthcare activists, your 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.160 job is to literally put pressure on the elected official. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.560 The elected official has to sit around and say, Okay, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.800 I got to take care a little bit of this. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.680 This is this squeaky oil, what they say squeaky or 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:33.400 what's up? So your job is to push. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.560 However, because candidates, and this is where I criticize them, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.840 candidates elected officials don't work with activists the way that 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.760 they should because you want to be at all, you 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.320 want to be the candidate, You want to be the activist, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:45.400 you want to be the organizer. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.200 Are they scared to work with the activist because they 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.600 think they'll get backlass right? 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.000 Or they want to be on this microphone. You have 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.240 over four hundred people in Congress. How many do you 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.280 see on the microphone? 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:55.920 A handful? 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.280 So you have your Jasmine Crocketts, you have like, yeah, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.880 so you have. But technically they're the elected official. Technically 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.000 they shouldn't have to be on the microphone being the 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.400 activist because what happens. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.360 Is what you see. And we had a big old 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:14.760 group chat about this. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.760 What happens is if Jasmine Crockett is talking about all 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.360 the different things immigration, I tell people lay off on 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.360 being upset with her talking about immigration. She's in Texas, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.240 she must talk about immigration. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.839 So you have black people lying, oh, why is she 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:28.600 talking about immigration? 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.840 Because she represents people you know in Texas So when 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.240 you have her having to be the activists because there's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.320 not leadership in the Democrat Party that's loud, or there's 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.760 not activists on the ground that are loud enough, or 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.400 they're not coordinating with those activists. And when I say coordinate, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.120 I mean give them money so that they can crash 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.320 out on your behalf. Then now you have a candidate's 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.199 trying to do it all. So what happens when she 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.520 runs for office? When I looked at her Ballipedia, I 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.400 think it was one hundred something thousand that voted in 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.040 a general election. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.920 I look at that and I. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.120 See fifty thousand people in the primary that can move 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.680 you out your seat. That's what happened to Representative Bowman, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.520 Jamal Bowman. When you are being the activist and he's 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.959 talking about Godza, Godsa, Godza, Gaza, Gaza, and damn near 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.240 half of your district is Orthodox Jews, they actually have 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.440 the power to put you in and put you out. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.560 Not the podcast, not the national media. So when you're 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.160 not coordinating with your activists, say hey, go run this play, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.880 run this offense, and let me do this, and you 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.160 do that. That's how you see a lot of the 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.120 issues and you set up false expectations for the elected official, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.319 and then the organizer is very different than the activists. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:39.960 A lot of people think that's the same. It's not 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:46.080 the same. Perfect example, Rashida Taled in Detroit organized one 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.319 hundred thousand people to go to the polls. So most 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.760 of the people you see online these podcasts are activists. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.760 Hey, hey, reparation now. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.079 Reparation that that's important, you know, healthcare now, healthcare now. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.280 But organizing, it's actually getting people in the room. Like 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.680 we did at the town hall of weeks ago. I 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.640 had in Atlanta, one hundred and fifty people standing outside 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:02.960 in the ring. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.880 That's organizing. Screaming and yelling is one thing. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.959 But getting one hundred thousand people to go to the 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.040 polls to say we are voting no commitment, that is 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.160 actually organizing, which is why Tamika always says. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.320 I'm an organizer first. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.680 So when you understand these roles and responsibilities, now you 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.880 can know your role, which is pushed the line. My 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.600 logo has a person pushing the P, the U, the S, 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.280 the H. Everybody like at this table has a role. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.040 If you know your role and then we know how 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.760 to work together. Now we can move forward on an agenda. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:33.680 I have a question. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.160 Yeah with politics today though, Like when I look at 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.520 like Trump, I feel like he you know, he doesn't 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.439 stay within any lines or anything things that you just said. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.040 Do you feel like there's is changed now because he's 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.320 changed the way that politicians moving what they say and 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.200 what they stand for. Like he he pushes whatever he 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.400 wants to spec and he's successful at it. So how 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.640 do you kind of counter what he's doing and kind 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.120 of making where the people that you're raising up on 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.240 either side are just as strong voice wise? Is what 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:58.960 we see him do. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.800 Yeah, it's not about really countering it. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.680 See, one of the one of the modules that I 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.000 have is is called it's not about weed, It's about me. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.400 If you are already strategizing to be against somebody and 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.520 not doing your role like you always say, just stay consistent, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.520 don't compete with anybody, do your role. Push the line 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.400 is not about trying to focus on Trump or focused 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.080 on what Republican parties are doing, because Trump never. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.520 Focused on you. He never focused on the Democrat party. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:26.720 So when people set that up to say, I know, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.800 it felt good when they say, oh, Rock Obama, he's 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.280 everybody's president. Actually, you're really the president of the people 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.400 that vote you in. I know people don't want to 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.160 hear that, but it's really catering to who votes you, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.760 who puts you in. That's just like my household. I'm 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.439 catering to my man, not catering to what your man say. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.040 Who what somebody else man say. So Trump has done 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.000 and they hate it when I say this because they 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:47.480 say he don't. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:47.800 He don't. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:48.680 He didn't do a good job. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.760 He's a liar. No, I'm not saying I like it. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.600 I'm telling you how it is. It's a different between 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.400 how it is and how you want it to be. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.200 He is only talking to his base, even though you know, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.199 good day, well, he cannot dismantle the Department of Education 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.679 because Congress is going to have to do it. He 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.840 don't give them about that. He signed an executive varder 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.040 saying let's dismantle it. We beg for those things, you remember, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.960 Charlotte Mane, Like, why don't y'all just doing executive vad 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.280 for the George Floyd Justice and Police and Act. But 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.319 everybody's so smart in the Democrat part. That's not how 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.760 it work. You gotta go through Congress. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:18.200 You gotta go. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.600 People want to know you at least fighting you, at 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.280 least in the ring. You willing to sock somebody in 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.600 the eye, You're willing to take you willing to fight 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.320 for my love. You know what they say every night, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:28.440 I gotta fight for my love. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.800 I think it's a combination of both though, because Donald Trump, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.400 did you know, he did call them the woke left, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.240 and he did say that the Democrats are the enemy 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.360 from within. But he didn't just run a campaign of 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.040 Democrats are bad, Democrats are bad, Democrats are bad. He 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.360 actually said these are the things I want to do 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.040 for my constituents as well. I think Democrats just run 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.480 a whole Trump is Bad campaign, but they don't ever 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.839 tell the constituents exactly what it is they want to do. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.480 For right And they also don't teach constituents how to 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.320 do it. They're terrible with training, which is why started 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.960 this training program. Also, Trump is an organizer and an 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.760 activist and a candidate and a marketer and an entertainer. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.200 He makes everything a spectacle, He makes everything a big deal. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.720 He always knows how to play to the camera. All 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.280 of the things that the Democrats feel they too good 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.880 to do. And so I'm just gonna tell you like 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.040 straight o, oh no, don't do that. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:22.680 That's not president. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.240 He doesn't give a damn. And so when you he's 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:31.240 been campaigning for the last eight years, Yeah, he's campointing out. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.840 We say that, he's literally campaigning. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.120 When you have a rally every month, every other month, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:41.920 that's actually organizing, getting people in the room. They pop 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.400 out crazy. So he's been doing that the whole time. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.600 You it's hard to catch up with that. It's hard 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.240 to catch up when you've been talking. It's not a 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.680 matter of how many people you have. Conservatives are the 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:55.040 majority minority of this country. So it's not about who's 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.479 the biggest, it's about. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.120 Who's the strongest. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.120 That's why I'd like to use la gang banging for 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:00.920 those who grew up in the night. The Bloods were 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.840 always the smallest, but they also were the most powerful. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.800 How did Inglewood survive with crips all around it? 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:09.320 Why? 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.200 Because they knew how to push the line, which, by 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.760 the way, that's what blood say, push the line. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.200 Crips say press the line. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.440 So when you're able to take a small group, organize 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.560 consistent message, message message, conservatives have the best And again 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.320 don't come from me in a coma. I don't give that, 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.880 y'all coman in comments or not. They have the digital 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.080 discipline that you do not have on the left. You 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.920 do not have that on the left. Conservatives listen to 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.240 podcasts or what they listened to Am talk radio. We 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.800 talked about this before, all the way into work and 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.720 our commute, messaging, messaging, messaging. They go in their job, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.320 they listen to a podcast. Seventy percent of podcast listeners 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.440 are white, which is why we were doing that black effect. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:51.000 It's so important. So then they had work messaging, messaging, messing. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.960 Bad, bad, bad, enemy, enemy, enemy and enemy. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.040 Then they go home and they watch Fox News. Then 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.520 they get in the comments. I try to teach people 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.640 how to be the comment caucus talk about that too. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.200 They stay on it like we stay on it with 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.000 Shade Room. They stay on it non stop. Look at 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.200 the interview that I did here with Vivid Rama Sami 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.200 is a perfect example. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.800 Then people still commenting on that. I'llset them so much. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.320 They are still coming on that. Do you know, I 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:14.600 don't know. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.840 If you knew this, Joe Biden, you would say that's 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.320 probably one of the most popular interviews that you had, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:21.040 you ain't black. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.760 Go look at the comments under YouTube. Under YouTube, I. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.520 Think the last time I checked it might have been 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.040 twenty thousand something comments under the vivid rama, same interview. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.000 The last time I checked, fifty thousand comments, and Joe 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.120 Biden had millions of views. We only hear a couple 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.840 of hundred thousand. But look at the engagement then. People 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.160 was on my ass every day, angry masculin. They made 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.240 one hundred and fifty videos about me. They shut up 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.000 to y'all though, did they know how to message over 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.280 and over and over even if it's wrong, and so 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.320 you don't see that on the left, and so I 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.320 don't give them as left. All right, I want to 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.480 see more in our communities know how to mess the 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.280 same way y'all followed gossip the same way y'all followed it. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.840 If we have that same type of organizing, which by 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.879 the way, is course to called the ambition of a rider. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.600 It's talking about community coalition building, how to be the 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.879 common caucus, how to make sure you clicking, like, how 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.119 to get the engagement. You have to be very strategic 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.359 in this, and if you're not, we don't get anywhere. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.200 So now I agree with that. I say, I agree 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:21.359 with that. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.399 I also think that that's why when somebody, when you 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.840 see somebody scoring points, you just got to keep feeding 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.080 them the ball. Republicans did that with Trump once they 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.800 saw that Trump is the guy that the media gravitates towards, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.600 and this is who people are listening to. That's the guy, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.919 and I think Democrats don't do enough of that. If 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.520 it's AOC, give it the ball. If it's Javin Crockett, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:41.439 give it a ball. If it's Bernie Sanders, give them 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.120 the ball. Those are the people that folks are gravitating towards. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:45.480 Right now, you just had a rally. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:46.560