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Speaker 2: Oh what's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: To be back with you here, Carrie Rhodes in for

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Speaker 3: George Reister. I know you're an NBA guy. I know

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Speaker 3: you love you some NBA sir, sir, Yes, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you like your your Dirk Navitski, your Dallas Mavericks. Right, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: you're Chris Topsporzingis. We'll get to him going to the

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Speaker 3: Celtics in a little bit here. But are you thrilled

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Speaker 3: for this new NBA Cup? That's what they're calling this thing.

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Speaker 3: It's the in season tournament. There's gonna be some group play,

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Speaker 3: knockout stages, and then there's gonna be a championship on

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Speaker 3: December ninth. That is your in season NBA tournament. Are

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Speaker 3: you giddy for this thing?

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Speaker 4: I am just confused, that's all I've kind of consumed

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Speaker 4: over the last day. I mean, it's so much information

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Speaker 4: that just came out in that one little one minute

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Speaker 4: commercial clip that they put out, and you know, Richard

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Speaker 4: Jefferson did a really good job of trying to you know,

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Speaker 4: motivate us and get us amped up about it. But

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Speaker 4: I don't think the players will really get, you know,

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Speaker 4: hyped up about it. I just don't see it really

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Speaker 4: taken off. And you know, obviously the World Cup we

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Speaker 4: have a lot of fun around that, but that's also

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Speaker 4: one of those things where it's an event that we're

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Speaker 4: looking forward to all around the world, and this is

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Speaker 4: just something that's kind of like a gimmick.

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Speaker 2: It seems.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's stupid.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, Kerrie, and I love

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Speaker 3: the NBA, I think it's stupid. Look, man, some stuff

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Speaker 3: works for certain sports and doesn't work for others. It's

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Speaker 3: really as simple as that. And this is, like you said,

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Speaker 3: this is taken straight from European soccer season tournament. But

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Speaker 3: they don't have a playoff structure the way the NBA does.

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Speaker 3: They don't have you know, rounds and rounds and then

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Speaker 3: a championship they use the regular season as their postseason basically,

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Speaker 3: so the in season tournament in soccer means a whole

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Speaker 3: lot more. Yeah, I just don't like think about this,

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Speaker 3: Carrie too. What if the NBA said, you know, penalty kicks,

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Speaker 3: we should do our own version of penalty kicks in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, Like that would never work, Like not everything

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Speaker 3: that works in one sport works in another.

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Speaker 4: Like instead of a challenge, you have like a three

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Speaker 4: point shootoff and right, yeah, to consider who gets the ball,

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Speaker 4: like just all these weird delays in the game that

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Speaker 4: messes up the flow already. And yeah, it's just it's

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Speaker 4: just doesn't seem like it's gonna work. And you know, again,

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Speaker 4: these guys it's a long season too, right, and you

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Speaker 4: have all these things where you know, people they're looking

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Speaker 4: forward to those certain times to you know, heal and

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Speaker 4: do certain things where you're putting this little tournament out

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Speaker 4: there that's gonna you know, obviously shake it up, but

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Speaker 4: it's not gonna work, Man's not.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: And I think too the NBA really for this to

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Speaker 3: get off the ground in a good way, they need

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Speaker 3: a team that's a contender for the championship this year,

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Speaker 3: who has some prestige to win this in the first year,

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Speaker 3: because if there's a team like I don't know, say

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Speaker 3: the Clippers, who don't have an illustrious history, if they

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Speaker 3: win the in season tournament, they win the first NBA Cup,

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Speaker 3: it's just gonna be a punchline. It's gonna be, well,

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Speaker 3: you guys won the NBA Cup, though, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like, the NBA needs the Celtics, they need

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Speaker 3: some cachet to win this, to give it a bump,

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Speaker 3: because if it's the Utah Jazz or the Pelicans, someone

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Speaker 3: that just all of a sudden rex shop and win

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Speaker 3: this thing, it's gonna be more of a punchline than anything.

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Speaker 4: I agree, but also even worse about it for me,

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Speaker 4: the stats don't count towards the season, so what you know,

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Speaker 4: like there's what they're saying right now is the stats

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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, it's it counts except for the championship games,

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Speaker 3: which I don't understand at all.

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 3: So all the group stage play counts like the final

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Speaker 3: four counts, not the championship game, though again exactly what

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Speaker 3: that I don't understand. And the other part of this is, look,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be playing these games on Tuesdays and Friday, right,

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Speaker 3: which I think is smart, Carrie. But for anybody who's saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be big, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: maybe not first year, but the fifth year, ten years

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Speaker 3: from now, it's gonna be big. Other leagues are gonna model,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna do their own version of this.

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Speaker 5: Like, think about that for a second.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna go up against Monday Night Football or

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Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football. Thursday Night Football is on Amazon, it's

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Speaker 3: on Prime Video. You gotta stream this. And the numbers

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Speaker 3: went down drastically. If this was really going to be

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Speaker 3: but behind it, I guess, you know, like why not

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Speaker 5: But they're like, you know, we're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna go on Tuesday, We're gonna go on Friday, which

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Speaker 3: I think is smart. But for anybody who's envisioning this

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Speaker 3: being really big, them playing on Tuesdays and Friday should

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Speaker 3: tell you everything you need to know about how big

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Speaker 3: this realistically is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't be big at all, Brian.

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Speaker 4: And you know, like again, you know, I'm a huge

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Speaker 4: basketball fan, so I will probably tune in to see

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Speaker 4: what's going on. But it just smells like a Gammick

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Speaker 4: and it smells like just another way for the NBA

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Speaker 4: to get in households and make a little bit more money,

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Speaker 4: which obviously which is what it's about. But it doesn't

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Speaker 4: smell good at all.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I go thumbs down on that, Brian. Now

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Speaker 3: and Carrie Rhodes with you here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: how about a couple other NBA changes. While we're talking

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Speaker 3: about changes, do you go thumbs up or thumbs down

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Speaker 3: on the new flopping penalty where if the officials see

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Speaker 3: the offensive player or the defensive player flopping, it's a

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Speaker 3: technical foul, it's a free throw and you get possession.

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Speaker 3: That's the other key part of this. I love it

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Speaker 3: in like the theory of it. But Carrie, Man, there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be controversy gal lore where, hey, Matt, you just

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Speaker 3: called a flop on I don't know, the Celtics. Why

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Speaker 3: didn't you call a flop on the sixers? Like what

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Speaker 3: you gotta call it both ways. That was clearly a flop,

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Speaker 3: and when you've got a free throw attached to it,

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's gonna lead to a lot of controversy.

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Speaker 3: I like it, yeah, but man, I think you gotta

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Speaker 3: look at what could go wrong, not what will go right.

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Speaker 3: Does that make any sense to you?

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Speaker 2: It does no.

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Speaker 4: I actually I actually like the rule. I like I

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Speaker 4: like them trying to take out the flopping. It's it's

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Speaker 4: become such a terrible thing for the NBA. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's you know, you can see guys blatantly doing it

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Speaker 4: something that needs to be eradicate it. But also, like

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Speaker 4: you said, it's gonna be just more more controversy around

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Speaker 4: the game. But that's gonna fall on the on the

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Speaker 4: on the refs man, and the on this of them

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Speaker 4: getting better because they've had some some really bad years here,

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Speaker 4: you know, back to back consecutively, so let's see if

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Speaker 4: we can get some better officiating here. But I like

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Speaker 4: the rule. I hate I hate the flopping. I think

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Speaker 4: it takes away from the game. So them trying to

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Speaker 4: fix that is a positive stuff for the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gone too far, Like the flopping is just

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Speaker 3: gone too far, and for them to try to, you know,

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Speaker 3: get that under control, I think it's a great thing, right.

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Speaker 3: I just think man to officiate that in live time

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Speaker 3: when the penalty is that severe. We're not talking about

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Speaker 3: Carrie just this is a normal personal foul, right, and

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Speaker 3: that can be serious enough. We're talking about a free throw.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about one point here toward the end of

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Speaker 3: a game, and it's really close, and you're gonna make

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Speaker 3: that bold call. That's gonna be rough, man, Like, the

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Speaker 3: officials have enough on their plate.

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Speaker 5: I'll put it this way. As a fan, I like

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Speaker 5: it a lot.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, But as an official, yeah, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: the officials are thinking about this exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, these guys are skilled at it.

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Speaker 4: It's not like it's something where it's you have a

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Speaker 4: couple of flops a game. The players are blatantly doing

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Speaker 4: So I see it being such. I see it being

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Speaker 4: the positive. But I mean the officiat needs to get

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Speaker 4: better as a whole. So hopefully they're doing their due

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Speaker 4: diligence and doing the study and just like us players

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Speaker 4: would have to do during the game to get better

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Speaker 4: for the week, but they're going to have to really

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Speaker 4: target the guys that do that a lot, right, do

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Speaker 4: the guys don't do it. There are certain guys in

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Speaker 4: So yeah, being able to eradicate that, I think that's

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Speaker 2: That's got to do a good job of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we already have our first flop in the Summer League.

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Speaker 5: It happened this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Was during the Jazz game. And this is how it

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Speaker 3: sounded on AT and T Sports and that checked this out.

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Speaker 2: It's a technical foul. Calls my first flap foul.

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Speaker 1: That's that's yeah. That was interesting. Well, he's saying they

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Speaker 1: got hitting the champions and he didn't. I thought he

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Speaker 6: I thought he took straight contact, but it just was

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Speaker 3: Right, So it was bang bang, he got hit in

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Speaker 3: the face, and they called the flop and the commentators

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Speaker 5: That doesn't look like a flop at all. Something like that.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, and you get a free throw, you

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Speaker 3: get possession again. I like the idea of it, but man,

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be some controversy with this.

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Speaker 2: Ryan. What would you do?

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Speaker 4: Would you take the one free throw out or what

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Speaker 4: would you what would be the no?

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Speaker 3: I would keep it the way they have it. I

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Speaker 3: would It's not gonna be perfect. I think things are

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Speaker 3: going to be better. I think you got to look

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Speaker 3: at things. Are they better because, like take replay for instance,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people confuse this Carrie where it's never

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Speaker 3: gonna be perfect, but is better than not having replay.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's the same thing with the flopping penalty.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have a penalty with some punch. It can't

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Speaker 3: be a five thousand dollars fine, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: If you attach a free throwt to it, that's a

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Speaker 4: It's like, I want to go see it next. Can

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Speaker 3: For any official in twenty twenty three to go to

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Speaker 5: That's the way it should be in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree on that one for sure.

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Speaker 3: So uh, quite the reaction to Victor Weinbinyama's summer league debut,

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Speaker 3: Carrie Rhoads, that sentence just sounds ridiculous. Huge reaction to

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Speaker 3: He scored nine points. He was two for thirteen from

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Speaker 9: He had this to say, Honestly, I didn't really know

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I was doing on the court.

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Speaker 3: Hey look, man, he's nineteen years old. You got to

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be a finished product right out

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Speaker 4: Right, He's a guy that you know, he was super

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Speaker 4: I think the Summer League is obviously a setup for

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 4: I saw a conversation where he was having a conversation

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Speaker 3: It is interesting, right where you think about whatever your

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Speaker 3: But chances are more than not that whatever the equivalent

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Speaker 5: This is just it comes with the territory.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is the heart of the conversation, Carrie, do

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Speaker 4: To be honest, I would agree with that, and I

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Speaker 5: Initially, I think he's the guy.

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Speaker 2: Brian.

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Speaker 4: We live in the world now where people want to

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Speaker 4: see people fall and fail, right, So you get on

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Speaker 4: the pedestal, they're always trying to nip and tucket that

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Speaker 4: to bring you down. So he's in that position right now.

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Speaker 4: And I to be honest, if he had a pretty

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Speaker 4: good year this year and averaged eighteen points and nine rebounds,

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Speaker 4: he'd be a failure. So that's how high the bar is.

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Speaker 4: And so it's gonna be tough for him.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: And how about this too, Greg Popovich. He'll be coaching

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Speaker 3: when min Yama for the next five years. At least

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Speaker 3: he got a five year extension. Pop did, and we're

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Speaker 3: talking to the tune of more than eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: The funny thought I had was, is this the NBA's

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Speaker 3: way of saying we can't have money? Williams as the

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Speaker 3: highest paid head coach. I mean, good lord, he just

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Speaker 3: got fired by the Suns. He's coaching the Pistons. Maddy

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Speaker 3: Williams got a six year, seventy eight and a half

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Speaker 3: million dollar deal. Now Pop gets five years eighty plus

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Speaker 3: million dollars. But how about Pop It looked like they

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Speaker 3: missed the playoffs for the last four seasons after making

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Speaker 3: it twenty two straight years, Carrie, and it looked.

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Speaker 5: Like, oh okay, his career is sort of gonna fade off.

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Speaker 3: And then they win the lottery, and now they have

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Speaker 3: win ben Yama and now he's got a new five

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Speaker 3: year extension. Pop has a legitimate chance to walk on

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Speaker 3: out of the NBA on a high note. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's winning a championship high note, but if

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Speaker 3: wem ben Yama is the real deal, that is not

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Speaker 3: out of the question.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no question.

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Speaker 4: I mean if history repeats itself. I mean, when they

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Speaker 4: got Tim Duncan, they changed their franchise with Pop, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're you know, bringing that same philosophy on

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Speaker 4: board with this pick as well. And you know, we've

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Speaker 4: seen what he can do. We've seen what he can

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Speaker 4: do with teams that are aging and all the things.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, he's such a great coach and he's

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Speaker 4: one of the best and best to ever do it.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a tall challenge. The West is

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Speaker 4: totally different. It's not as wide open as it used

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Speaker 4: to be, meaning there are so many really, really really

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Speaker 4: good teams ahead of them right now. But in a

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Speaker 4: five year span, there's no telling what those guys can do.

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Speaker 4: And you know they'll start getting adding on to what

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Speaker 4: they have and move forward. But yeah, I wouldn't put

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Speaker 4: anything in past Pop as far as succeeding.

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't put any pasted our own, Monzy Bolangos, me

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Speaker 3: neither as far as likely to succeed, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. And she's gonna do it again right here,

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Speaker 3: Manzy Bolanos with.

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Speaker 8: The latest guys. Hello, happy Sunday. Happy to be hanging

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Speaker 8: out with you and your Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: One about times good.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't normally mention a last place team

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Speaker 8: when they're gonna win, but if I'm working with you, Brian,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna mention it.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate h I got you.

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Speaker 8: They beat the White Sox for three and ten innings.

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Speaker 8: I mean, listen, we gotta mention it. Well, it was

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Speaker 8: also extra innings, right, But we have to mention the

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Speaker 8: Rays because they snapped a seven game losing streak. They

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Speaker 8: beat the best team in baseball, the Braves, ten to

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Speaker 8: four was the final score.

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Speaker 5: But Atlanta does have a new franchise record.

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Speaker 8: They have homered in twenty six straight games, and I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not surprised about that.

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Speaker 8: The way they're hitting and scoring, it's like, yeah, that

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Speaker 8: sounds accurate.

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Speaker 5: But they did lose today the Brewers.

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Speaker 8: They edged the Reds one zero, so Milwaukee is now

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Speaker 8: one game back of Cincinnati. For the top spot in

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Speaker 8: the nl Central. The Marlins had a seven to three

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Speaker 8: victory over the Phillies. But what we really care about

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Speaker 8: is their second basement. Luis Arees, how is his batting average?

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Speaker 8: He went zero for four today, so his batting average

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Speaker 8: is three eighty three.

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Speaker 5: Oh so low. Come on, Luis, you gotta get up there.

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Speaker 5: That is not what we want.

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Speaker 8: Currently going on in Major League Baseball, the Pirates are

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Speaker 8: beating the Diamondbacks three to two, top of the sixth

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Speaker 8: inning in Arizona, Manny Machado launched a three run homer,

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Speaker 8: and the Padres are beating the Mets at home three zero,

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Speaker 8: top of.

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Speaker 5: The fifth inning.

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Speaker 8: Giants holding on to a one run lead over the

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Speaker 8: Rockies one zero bottom of the seventh inning. In the NBA,

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Speaker 8: we're talking about Greg Popovich. Yeah, he's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 8: The winging winning a coach in NBA history has a

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Speaker 8: new five year deal with the San Antonio Spurs worth

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Speaker 8: more than eighty million dollars. Greg four President, pop for President,

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Speaker 8: That's what I'm gonna say. Bleacher Report is saying that

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Speaker 8: Isaiah Thomas is setting up a private workout for multiple

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Speaker 8: NBA teams in Las Vegas, tomorrow. Mark Medina just tweet

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Speaker 8: did we love him here at Fox Sports Radio?

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Speaker 5: That Rob Polinka.

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Speaker 8: He's currently at in Vegas, probably talking to Rob Polinka

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Speaker 8: right now, But apparently the Lakers are looking to add

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Speaker 8: an additional center to their roster.

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Speaker 5: They currently only have two open spots. Let's check in

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Speaker 5: with Wimbledon.

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Speaker 8: Novak Djokovic won his first set and he's currently tied

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Speaker 8: right now in his second set at six games apiece

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Speaker 8: in a tiebreaker, so he's having a tougher time in

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Speaker 8: this match round of sixteen. But earlier today just Pagoula,

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Speaker 8: she dominated her around. She's headed to the quarterfinals, and so.

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Speaker 5: Did IgA Sviantek. Also, yeah, they're both at it.

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Speaker 2: I know I had months I did you?

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Speaker 8: No, I did you should have because she's awesome, She's

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Speaker 8: actually really really good. So they're both at it over

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Speaker 8: there and checking in right real quick. John deear Classic

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Speaker 8: Today is the final round. Sepstraca is in the lead

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Speaker 8: at twenty one under par. Brendan Todd is only two

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Speaker 8: shots back, tied for second place with Alex Guys. It's

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Speaker 8: a busy day, even though it's not. We're in an

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Speaker 8: off season, but it's kind of busy.

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Speaker 3: To you guys day although it's not it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: perfect sense.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely know what you're saying right now, guys, I

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Speaker 5: still didn't tell you everything. But what about you know

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be here for ten minutes. I still

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Speaker 5: didn't tell you everything. I got more to say later,

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Speaker 5: but you.

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Speaker 3: Know, we'll check in later, no doubt, and we'll check

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Speaker 3: you in here in about what fifteen minutes? Not even

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Speaker 3: According to Monster, there we go, O, my goodness, she's ready.

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Speaker 3: You ever see you know, you ever watched like the

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Speaker 3: Triple Crown. You see the horse races there, Carrie, You

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Speaker 3: ever see the horses in like the starting gait and

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Speaker 3: sometimes they're a little bit wild and you're like.

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Speaker 5: Oh whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 3: Whoa like and they're just going, like moving around. I

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Speaker 3: feel like that's Moncey right before. According to Mancy, oh no, no,

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Speaker 3: she's ready.

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Speaker 2: Freaking wall is rolling right now.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, none of the like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even have coffee today.

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Speaker 8: Imagine if I did, oh man, yeah, who knows what

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Speaker 8: I would have said to you.

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Speaker 5: Brian and the other I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I can't even repeat it. I

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Speaker 3: was like off air, I'm like, hey, we're doing according

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Speaker 3: to Monsey today right, and.

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Speaker 5: Andrew Dice, she took she took my mic.

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Speaker 3: Nice Clay doesn't have a mouth the way Moncey does.

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Speaker 10: Holy, so you should be more impressed that I handle

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Speaker 10: it so well.

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Speaker 5: When my mic is on, it's all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: like in my brain it's switch. It's a switch. It's

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Speaker 5: it's like, stop it no more.

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Speaker 4: It is Tasmanian up until until up until right, Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Right, Thank you, Moncey.

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Speaker 3: Brian Dough and Carrie Roads here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: We're coming to you live from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 3: Com studios.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about this too, Carrie.

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Speaker 3: Where you think about wembin Yama making his summer league

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Speaker 3: debut and when the regular season rolls around, who he's

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Speaker 3: going up against and how difficult that's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Where you think about the guys like nicolea jokicch you

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Speaker 3: think about Black and Horns with the player from the

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference in Joel Embiid, who's the reigning MVP. Think

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Speaker 3: about a guy like Karl Anthony Towns in the West, right,

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Speaker 3: like that dude's a skilled player.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be really tough.

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Speaker 3: And so if you expand that and you think about

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Speaker 3: the NFL, I think the toughest thing to do is

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Speaker 3: to be a rookie quarterback and to try to hit

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Speaker 3: the ground running. But what would be the second toughest

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Speaker 3: position in your mind to be where it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you're a left tackle coming out black Nick Bosa, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like black Miles Garrett, Oh, you're

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Speaker 3: a cornerback. Okay, lockdown Tyreek Hill or Jamar Chase or whoever.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, what would you say is the second toughest position

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Speaker 3: to enter the NFL as a rookie you and try

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Speaker 3: to thrive?

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Speaker 4: You just named it. It's the cornerback. Yeah, you especially

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Speaker 4: in this day and age right now, the game is

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Speaker 4: so wide open. They're being put on on islands, so

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Speaker 4: to speak, and you know they got to learn really fast,

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Speaker 4: and so definitely that I would say corner Obviously, you

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Speaker 4: can just tell him to go lock a man up

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Speaker 4: or lock a side up if you have a really

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Speaker 4: good guy, like a Sauce Gardener right that came in

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Speaker 4: last year really ready to play. But it doesn't work

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Speaker 4: for everybody that way. And I think you know, the

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Speaker 4: expectations with those guys coming in, you know, having those

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Speaker 4: monikers or being labeled as a lockdown guy to come

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Speaker 4: into the league and try to do that on a

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Speaker 4: consistent basis is just it's it's a it's a super

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Speaker 4: tough ask and it doesn't happen, you know, with them

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Speaker 4: by themselves obviously there it's a defensive game planning, a

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Speaker 4: defensive scheme, but you know that position, you have to

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Speaker 4: go out and make plays and make stops on a

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: And think about that too, where you mentioned him, Sauce

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Speaker 3: Gardner r. He comes in, he was on the All

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Speaker 3: Pro team, you know, like he's not just a Pro bowler,

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Speaker 3: he's on the even more elite All Pro team as

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Speaker 3: a rookie. That that's insane the level that he competed

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Speaker 3: at with the Jets, like season and they had both Offen,

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Speaker 3: they had the offensive Rookie of the Year and Garrett

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Speaker 3: Wilson and the defensive rookie of the year in Sauce

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Speaker 3: Gardner like that, that is a win win for Joe

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Speaker 3: Douglas to GM over there.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be really good, man, Those guys are,

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Speaker 4: and they seem to still be hungry as well. I know,

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Speaker 4: when you see a lot of guys have that immediate success,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to stay humbled, and especially for

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Speaker 4: those guys they're in New York City, which you know,

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Speaker 4: I know, I have a little experience with that, right

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Speaker 4: I know how how fun that can be. And if

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Speaker 4: I can toot my own horn for one second, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was a All Pro player of my second year,

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Speaker 4: so I got a taste of what that feels like.

653
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Speaker 4: And so I know that for a guy like Sauce man,

654
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Speaker 4: he's being you know, hanging out with Jessica alb at

655
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Speaker 4: the garden and stuff like that. So just being able

656
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Speaker 4: to stay level headed and come out and perform after that,

657
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Speaker 4: it's going to be it's gonna be exciting to see

658
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Speaker 4: how he has that second year bounce.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'll tell you what life is good when you're

660
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Speaker 3: an NFL All Pro as a rookie and you're like,

661
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Speaker 3: I didn't even know who Jessica Allen was.

662
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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: I was like, Sauce, I do all right, I know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like we all do exactly. Sauce was in

665
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Speaker 3: the dark on that one, but man, that was hilarious

666
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Speaker 3: real fast going back to your glory days, Carrie, from

667
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Speaker 3: your rookie year, especially the beginning of your rookie year

668
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Speaker 3: compared to your second year. Being all bro your second

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Speaker 3: year is a great accomplishment, But what was it like

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Speaker 3: year two compared to year one and just trying to

671
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Speaker 3: not only fit in but be a playmaker?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, year one was very very interesting. I in the preseason,

673
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Speaker 4: I was all world. Obviously, we're playing against guys that are,

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Speaker 4: you know, rookies coming in or guys that are trying

675
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Speaker 4: to scrap to make the team, and so I was

676
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Speaker 4: I saw my level. I knew I was good enough

677
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Speaker 4: on that level to perform. I performed really well. I

678
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Speaker 4: think I layed the NFL and interceptions in the preseason,

679
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Speaker 4: I had like three, So I was like, this.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be easy.

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Speaker 4: The week one we played the Kansas City Chiefs and

682
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Speaker 4: the Arrowhead and that's when they were humming. I mean,

683
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Speaker 4: Tony Gonzalez, Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, all the big front,

684
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Speaker 4: all the guys, Larry Allen, all those guys up front,

685
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Speaker 4: and I was scared. I was like, this isn't the same.

686
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Speaker 4: I mean I made I made the I was a

687
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Speaker 4: first team All Rookie team. I made that, but my

688
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Speaker 4: performance wasn't on that same level. So I knew coming

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Speaker 4: into the second season, I just had to really study

690
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Speaker 4: the game. I knew athletica I could do it, but

691
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Speaker 4: now I had to get to that mental approach where

692
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Speaker 4: I was a step ahead of those guys, and so

693
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Speaker 4: really just focus on the mental part of it, really studying,

694
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Speaker 4: really knowing my opponents, and came back in that second

695
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Speaker 4: second season and thrived.

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Speaker 3: No, man, that's great. I'll pick your brain throughout the

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Speaker 3: show because I have seventy five at least follow up

698
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Speaker 3: questions for what you just laid out right there. But

699
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Speaker 3: a little bit later, next hour, we'll get to I

700
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Speaker 3: thought this was interesting. Richard Sherman, the former cornerback. He

701
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Speaker 3: said he knew when it was time to retire. He

702
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Speaker 3: was guarding Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Davonte Smith. So you'll

703
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Speaker 3: hear the audio, but you know, you think about your

704
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Speaker 3: welcome to the NFL moment and your I need to

705
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Speaker 3: leave the NFL moment, you know, like which is more sobering.

706
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Speaker 3: We'll get to that next hour. We are all fired

707
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Speaker 3: up for, according to Manci, coming up next. She'll have

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Speaker 3: three subjects. She will have three strong opinions, and we

709
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Speaker 3: will see if we disagree, if we disagree, if we

710
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Speaker 3: can make a better argument, or she can be.

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Speaker 5: Swayed at all.

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Speaker 3: Chances are probably not, but we'll see how it unfolds.

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Speaker 3: That's on the way. I'm Brian No, he's carry roads.

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Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm

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Speaker 3: Brian No, He's carry roads here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: I have inside souruses Carrie that have informed me that

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Speaker 3: you are rocking out to some Britney spears right now.

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Speaker 4: Oh that is correct, that is you know something, Okay, yeah,

719
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Speaker 4: a little bit, a little bit there.

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Speaker 3: By the way, hey, before we get to our award

721
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Speaker 3: winning segment here in just a second, what did you

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Speaker 3: make of the whole wem Bean Yama security detail and

723
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Speaker 3: the Britney spears.

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Speaker 5: Did you see the video of that?

725
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Speaker 1: I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did.

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Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, actually, I mean, he's not Those guys weren't

728
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Speaker 4: trying to cause any bodily harm to miss Spears. And

729
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: you know, obviously she was excited to meet him, and

730
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Speaker 4: you know, so many others are as well.

731
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Speaker 2: But it was just unfortunate more than anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Britney's going through enough right now, when you know,

733
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Speaker 4: when beya when ben Yama has so much going on too,

734
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Speaker 4: So let's kind of get get away from that. I

735
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Speaker 4: think hopefully she's okay and let's move on.

736
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I hope she's all right.

737
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Speaker 3: And you know, I get it, Yeah, you shouldn't be

738
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Speaker 3: smacking people around, but I don't know that's what it was.

739
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: You know, she ran up on Wemby and kind of

740
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: tapped him on the on the back, and a security

741
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Speaker 3: person kind of put their arm out. I don't know

742
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Speaker 3: if that was just a backhanded slap to the It

743
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Speaker 3: was kind of like a whoa, whoa, whoa whoa that

744
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Speaker 3: type of thing. But yeah, I don't think there's gonna

745
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: be any charges and we move on with life based

746
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, okay, we move on to this.

747
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Speaker 3: Let's dive in some according to Manzi.

748
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Corrin and now it's time.

749
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Speaker 5: For absolutely that's it's like.

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Speaker 1: To be pretty according to Mansi.

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Speaker 2: I love it, okay.

752
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: According to Manzi, the focus is on the wrong rookie

753
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: in the end.

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Speaker 1: According to Monsey, yes.

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Speaker 5: That's yeah, double down on that, guys.

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Speaker 8: All I've been hearing about is Victor when Manyama a

757
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 8: little bit of Scoothanderson and a little bit of Brandon Miller,

758
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Speaker 8: who actually was just four of seventeen playing against the Lakers.

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Speaker 8: I agree with what you were saying that when Manyama

760
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 8: is being way too criticized for one game in summer League.

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Speaker 5: Agree with that, but that's not really the point that

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to make.

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Speaker 8: I just don't get how we are not talking about

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Speaker 8: chet Holmgren. Chet Holmgren is seven to one. Chet Holmgren

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Speaker 8: has been watching the NBA from the sideline for one

766
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Speaker 8: whole seat. And his first game back in Salt Lake,

767
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 8: the first like start of the Summer League, it wasn't great.

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Speaker 5: I think he airballed a very close like finger roll.

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Speaker 8: He got in the groove and by now you could

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Speaker 8: see that sitting on the sideline has really progressed.

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Speaker 5: His game just by doing nothing. He's also put on weight.

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00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 5: You can see a little bit of more muscle.

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Speaker 8: I think when he came into the league he was

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Speaker 8: under two hundred pounds. Now he's over two hundred pounds.

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Speaker 8: His performance last night in Las Vegas five of ten

776
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 8: shooting sixteen points, ten rebounds, three assists, two steals. He

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Speaker 8: also had a very Lebron esque block from behind on

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Speaker 8: a drive. And I don't know how we are not

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Speaker 8: talking about him when he is a seven to one

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Speaker 8: footer Victor wm Banyama seven to five. But this guy

781
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 8: is very similar and everything we're saying Wemby can do, ched.

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Speaker 5: Holmgren can do that as well. And here we are

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Speaker 5: not mentioning him when I'm calling it now. He's gonna

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Speaker 5: be the rookie of the year.

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Speaker 1: According to Monsey.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Brian?

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Speaker 5: You know, I get it.

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00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: I get maybe we're sleeping on Shedding a little bit

789
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: too much. I'm totally down with that, but there's no

790
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Speaker 3: way he should.

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Speaker 5: Be more hyped up than ween Bin Yama.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know what, I actually I agree with

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Speaker 4: Mancy a little bit here. It's one of those things where,

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00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: you know, like the the Ben Simmons and d NB

795
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 4: thing when they have that year to sit and really

796
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: get that that NBA game under the belt, and you

797
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: know they come out swinging the year too ready to go.

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Speaker 2: So she has a point there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, hey, listen, I might bet on chet

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Speaker 3: because she's not a point, but the best prospect since

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Speaker 3: Lebron that's Wemby.

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Speaker 5: It's not Chet and he was banged up all last season.

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Speaker 5: He's a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: Much out of sight, out of mind, So I get

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: why he's not over hyped, but substance wwise. Yeah, I'm

806
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 3: gonna look at that Rookie of the Year market. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you that much though.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well according to Moncy. According to Monson, Bo Benson

809
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: is onto something.

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Speaker 8: That's right, Bo take it away.

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Speaker 11: Yesterday during the Jonas Knox Show, Uh, Jonas was talking

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Speaker 11: about the h the power of Las Vegas as a

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Speaker 11: sporting city and how this second guy, everybody needs to

814
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 11: get out there. The NBA, the MLB, the Oakland Days

815
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Speaker 11: are obviously gonna move there soon.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

817
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Speaker 11: I have a theory that the NBA is ready to pounce,

818
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 11: and I know exactly how it's gonna happen. That sounded

819
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Speaker 11: really inappropriate. Yeah, And Lebron James. Lebron James is going

820
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Speaker 11: to retire in two years. He is going to join

821
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Speaker 11: an ownership group with himself, Rich Paul Magic Johnson. I

822
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 11: believe Michael Jordan just sold his share of the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 11: You're gonna see a coalition of guys group together by

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Speaker 11: a team, get him into Vegas, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 11: have an NBA team in Las Vegas. And because of that,

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Speaker 11: you're gonna have an NBA team in Seattle bringing the

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Speaker 11: Super Sonics back. Uh, you can thank me when this

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Speaker 11: all happens in two years time. God that I guarantee

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Speaker 11: you that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 8: I was like, I was like, we're gonna put on

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Speaker 8: the record you're gonna do according to Montie and say

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Speaker 8: all this.

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Speaker 3: So are are we going to see MJN Lebron going

834
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Speaker 3: to ownership?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 11: Of the monse I think so, okay, I'm a little

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Speaker 11: moisture right now.

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Speaker 4: Where did you get this information? But it sounds like

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Speaker 4: you might be might have a pipeline of information. You

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Speaker 4: just it's it's reading the tea leaves. We all know

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Speaker 4: the sources of that. He made it up.

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00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 11: Lebron wants to own a team and Vegas. He's always

843
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 11: talked about Vegas, and uh, that'll be around the time

844
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Speaker 11: that Browny and and Bryce are are getting ready to

845
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Speaker 11: be in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: So the tracks a.

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Speaker 5: Little tag team according to Monci right there, I like it.

848
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Speaker 11: According to Monsey, all right, real quick, here. According to Manci,

849
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Speaker 11: the WNBA is doing something right.

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Speaker 5: You guys.

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Speaker 8: I just went to a Las Vegas Aces game thinking

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Speaker 8: that there was going to be six of us in

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Speaker 8: the crowd and that I was going to be able

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Speaker 8: to talk to kandas Parker.

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Speaker 5: It was a sold out crowd, sold out.

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Speaker 8: There were even chants like in the fans like there's

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Speaker 8: a little culture going on.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 5: WWA, you go were they chanting?

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Speaker 12: Moncei Jewish?

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds and he is a highlight machine and

870
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: he stole home yesterday. Reds won yesterday, they lost today,

871
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 3: they lost one nothing. But yesterday he stole second, stole third,

872
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 3: and then stole home. He stole his way around the bases,

873
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: which is unreal. And this is the way it sounded

874
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: on Bally Sports, Ohio. Now listen to the call of

875
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: him stealing home. The description got me thinking, here, it

876
00:40:53,280 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: is the most thrilling man in baseball. Okay, so we'll

877
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: look around the sports landscape. Here, we'll go baseball, We'll

878
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: turn it to the NFL. We'll look at the NBA.

879
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: The most thrilling, not necessarily the best, not necessarily the

880
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: top guy, but the most thrilling. When I think of that,

881
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: I think, if I'm going to the game, who's going

882
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: to make me say wow, the most Right?

883
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 5: Who is that guy?

884
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: Would you say it's Ellie de la Cruz or would

885
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: you go with the guy like show Hey Otani or

886
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: anybody else.

887
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: If you're looking at baseball, who is the most thrilling

888
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 5: man in the sport?

889
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: He is thrilling one hundred percent. You don't see that

890
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: often in the game anymore, you know, Like if you

891
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: take it back to somebody that I would compare De

892
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: la Cruz two at the moment, it would be like

893
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 4: a Ricky Henderson, right, I mean, Ricky Henderson was in

894
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: the game and in his prime, you were paying to

895
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: watch him play. I mean, you know that he could

896
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: change the game even if he's having a bad day

897
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: at the plate. If he gets a walk and gets

898
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: on base, it's trouble for the opposing team, right, So

899
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: that's kind of the field I get with Cruz, but

900
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: it's it's definitely Otani. I mean, the stuff that he's

901
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: doing right now from a pitching standpoint and from the

902
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: Badden stand point, it's just we haven't seen that. So

903
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 4: I would definitely go Otani. When it comes to overall exciting.

904
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: I would too.

905
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 3: I would go with Otani because think of it this way,

906
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: and it's a close race, I believe because de la

907
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Cruz is.

908
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: Electron, he really is.

909
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking if I go to the game, I

910
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: might be able to find a player that can hit

911
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: like de la Cruz, that can steal home like de

912
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: la Cruz, that can do it with the flare of

913
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: de la Cruz. I can see that with some other players, right,

914
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: there's nobody doing what shoe Hey.

915
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 5: Otani is doing.

916
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: And especially if you go to the game on a

917
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: day where he's pitching and hitting and doing it with style,

918
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: that's just it's unprecedented. He just got to one hundred

919
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: hits this year, so he's got one hundred hits and

920
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: over one hundred strikeouts. He's done that the last three seasons,

921
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: this one included. No one's ever done that in the

922
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: history of the game.

923
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: He seems like the kid that was just better than

924
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: everybody since he was since he was two, you know,

925
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 4: like he's he has that or about him, even though

926
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: he's very chill and he's not like one of those

927
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: guys that he's walking around trying to get the attention.

928
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: He's just really good at everything he does. And so

929
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: to see it kind of manifest on the daily basis

930
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: every time he's up to play, it's it's remarkable.

931
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

932
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: Both those players. They're great for baseball. We could put

933
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: it that way, yes, sir. Where MLB is winning big

934
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: time with show Hey, Ellie Dayla cruz Man and we

935
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: just talked about a little bit in the first hour

936
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: how difficult it is to hit the ground running when

937
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: you become a pro.

938
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 5: We talked about that with the NFL.

939
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: The toughest positions quarterback, cornerback, to go from college to

940
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: thriving immediately in the pros man you think about facing

941
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: big league pitching for Ellie dla Cruz and he's been

942
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: sensational so far. He's hitting well over three hundred in

943
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: his first thirty games as a twenty one year old.

944
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, and for show hated not just face

945
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: big league pitchers when he's hitting, but to face big

946
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: league hitters while he's pitching.

947
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: That that is mind blowing type stuff right there.

948
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: How about the NFL carry if we look there again,

949
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: not the best quarterback or player, but the most thrilling.

950
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: Who's the guy that if you go to the game,

951
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: he's gonna make you say wow, the most or the loudest,

952
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Ye or you know who

953
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: would you pay to watch in person that type of thing?

954
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: Who would you say is the most thrilling?

955
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's a tough one. I'm the most thrilling.

956
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with with my little protege

957
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 4: and and and and my all you know, my Alma

958
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: Martive buddy. That's Lamar Jackson, right if he if he's

959
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: if he's healthy, he's must see TV. He's somebody that can,

960
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: you know, take a normal shotgun snap and take eighty

961
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 4: yards on a run and also can do that in

962
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: the year as well, and so he'd be the guy

963
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: that I would go pay to watch a football game with,

964
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: even though I don't have to do.

965
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: That, that would be the one that I would do it.

966
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, you don't have to pay for any game, Carrie.

967
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no no.

968
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Do you have the hook Cup for non NFL players

969
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: like me? That's what I really needed.

970
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: Brian will discuss off the air. I don't want people

971
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: call me saying give me tickets.

972
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you go.

973
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: You go see this guy John, Just tell him your

974
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: Harry Rose exactly.

975
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

976
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: Fine.

977
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: I had two dudes on my list, Carrie. I had

978
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. And I'm not saying these

979
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: are the only two thrilling players in the league. There

980
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: are lots of them. You could go with a guy

981
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: like Tyreek Hill is a thrilling wide receiver. There are

982
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: plenty of talented dudes. I would go Patrick Mahomes and

983
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: I think that's number one. I would probably put Lamar

984
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Jackson number two, just in terms of thrilling. You're gonna

985
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: see something that those guys are gonna do where Mahomes

986
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: is gonna drop his arm, he's gonna create something.

987
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: He's gonna do a Pirouett.

988
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna do a Kareem abdul Jabbar skyhook to Clyde

989
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: Edwards zlayer. It's gonna be like, how did he do that? So, yeah,

990
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: I look at Mahomes, I'd put him number one. But

991
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: in terms of just the playmaking, raw athleticism of Lamar Jackson,

992
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: I think those guys are one two in the thrilling category.

993
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I had Pat number two.

994
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: I mean, and it can go either way, it's not

995
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it's we should probably say one A,

996
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 4: one B either one either one. You'll pay to go see.

997
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: And you know, Patrick Mahomes is the best player in

998
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: the league right now, Allen. He's been that ways, I

999
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: mean for the last three four years, and so yeah,

1000
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: I mean he's the guy that you want to you

1001
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: pay to go see as well.

1002
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: How about defensive players, where you think about Mikah Parsons,

1003
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: you think about Nick Bosa is a lot of fun

1004
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: to watch, Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald for sure, Sauce Gardner.

1005
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: If you're looking for a defensive back, yep Man, I

1006
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: think Michah Parsons is he's an absolute He's like the

1007
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: Tasmanian devil. We were talking about that too. He is

1008
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 3: a defensive Tasmanian devil out there.

1009
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: Ryan.

1010
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: The one thing I've talked about this for like the

1011
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: probably last five years or so, but Aaron Donald is

1012
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: the best defensive player I've ever seen. Yeah, and I've

1013
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: been around some good ones, right, I've been around some

1014
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: Hall of famers, So to see what he can do

1015
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: on the daily basis and see how much havoc he

1016
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: wrecks on offenses, it's just I've never seen it before.

1017
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 4: And so you know, he's one of those guys that

1018
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 4: whenever he hangs it up, he'll be in the Hall

1019
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: of Fame right away and we'll remember the stuff that

1020
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: he did during his time planning forever.

1021
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we turn it to the NBA present day,

1022
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: we're all looking at present day stuff. I probably should

1023
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: have said that initially, but.

1024
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm glad you picked up what.

1025
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: I got it right there.

1026
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, just in today's NBA when we're looking at

1027
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: thrilling players, again, not necessarily the best, but either just

1028
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: raw athleticism, skill is off the charts. There's something there's

1029
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: just an eye catching element to them where you say, wow,

1030
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: who would be that guy for you?

1031
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 5: In the NBA.

1032
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's kind of tough to say right

1033
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: now with all the stuff that he's going through, but

1034
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: that's it has to be John Morant, right. Every time

1035
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 4: he plays, he's doing something ridiculous on the court, and

1036
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: his athleticism is just it's not matched by any and

1037
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: to say that, you know about a league that's full

1038
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: of athletes, to say that he's the top athlete is

1039
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: just you know, when you can single out somebody in

1040
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: that field as being the top athlete, you know they're

1041
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: doing something exciting. So that's that's him.

1042
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: No, you're about that when you can the most athletic

1043
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: NBA player, that's whoa that's sayings. That is absolutely saying something.

1044
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: I think that Jaw was on my list. The other

1045
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: dude I had at the top of my list was

1046
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: Steph Curry. Of course, now not the raw athleticism obviously,

1047
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: but skill is off the charts. The three point shooting,

1048
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: that ability, like what he does. You see these pregame

1049
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: shooting routine videos, Like some of the things that he's doing,

1050
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: he's literally not missing a shot.

1051
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 5: Then at the end.

1052
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: Will like bounce the ball and it'll go like thirty

1053
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: feet in the air and go in and stuff like that.

1054
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: It's I think that Steph Curry doing it also as

1055
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: long as he has. Yeah, And I think there's something

1056
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: there too where if you go to the game, think

1057
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: of it this way. You go to a game, you're

1058
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: watching Steph Curry, There's something there. There's an element of

1059
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: like this is a four time champion, you know what

1060
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Like this is basketball royalty that I'm watching

1061
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: like his racally and also tonight, like right here, right now.

1062
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: So I think that the skill of the dribbling ability

1063
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: mixed with the unbelievable three point shooting ability, I would

1064
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: put Steph Curry at the top of the thrilling list.

1065
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: But I totally hear you on John Moran, that dude,

1066
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: what he does finishing close to the rim and athletically

1067
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: and you're actually shooting the ball a lot better in

1068
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 3: the playoff loss to the Lakers in that series loss.

1069
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: But man, if he can develop an outside shot mixed

1070
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: with what he has athletically, man, that guy is gonna

1071
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: and obviously get it straight off the court as well. Right,

1072
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna be even more unbelievable than he has been

1073
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: on the court so far.

1074
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: Brian I agree with you on Steph Curry too. You're right.

1075
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 4: I mean, there is a an aura about him that

1076
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: you know, we get, we get. I don't think we

1077
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: get enamored enough by it as a whole. But when

1078
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 4: you see him play, you know you're gonna expect something,

1079
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: you know, something great to happen. Not a bit, right,

1080
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: But let me throw one more person in that hat

1081
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: as well. I know a lot of people have their

1082
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: thoughts about him and feel a certain way about him,

1083
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 4: but another guy that must see TV when it comes

1084
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: to that.

1085
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: Is Kyrie Irving as well. Yeah.

1086
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: Right, the stuff that he does as a finisher, I mean, yeah,

1087
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: it's like poetry watching him play.

1088
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: It is, you know, it's funny.

1089
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: I went to it was a MAVs Pacers game this

1090
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: past season, and so Kyrie was there and I was

1091
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: telling my girl, she's not huge into sports. I'm trying

1092
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 3: to convert her, carry I'm doing everything I can't. I'm like,

1093
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: I was telling her about Kyrie and I'm like, this

1094
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: dude's game is beautiful, Like it's poetry. And I'm like

1095
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: he's a head case. Don't get me wrong, but yeah,

1096
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: but his game is just gorgeous and in that same game,

1097
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 3: a guy like Luka Doncic. He had this pass Carrie

1098
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: where I can't even do it justice. He was falling

1099
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: out of bounds and he just whips the ball as

1100
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: he's falling out of bounds all the way along the baseline.

1101
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: Perfect pass, sets up a guy. He makes the shot.

1102
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 5: It was unreal.

1103
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: But I think that Kyrie is a little bit more

1104
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: thrilling because he's more athletic. Yeah, Jokic is thrilling also,

1105
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: but he's a lot more boxy, you know what I mean,

1106
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the raw athletic ability. He's a little

1107
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: bit more like a guard version of Jokic, you know,

1108
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: where those guys are so effective, but they don't have

1109
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: that that thrilling sort of like wow. Fact more so

1110
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: Jokic than Luca. But I think you understand what I'm saying.

1111
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're one hundred percent right. I think there's

1112
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: we talk about flash or I mean, Luca has flash

1113
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: in his game, Jokic as well, but the way it

1114
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: looks in the way the and the way the presentation

1115
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: is kind of put in your face. With the with

1116
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: the Kyrie or Jah Moran or Steph Curry, it's just

1117
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: a little different it is.

1118
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: It's so different. Think about how jaw blows by a defender.

1119
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 3: It looks so different than Luca. He'll make a move.

1120
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: He's quicker than it looks. Yes, but he'll get you

1121
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: on the on his hip and it's a rap. There's

1122
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: nothing you can do.

1123
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: It's over.

1124
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 4: You know what it is, Brian, It's that whole effect

1125
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 4: of the common person at home watching the game on TV.

1126
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: I think that some of them really believe that they

1127
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: can do what Luca or Jokis does because it looks

1128
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: it doesn't look as crazy, right, But when you see

1129
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: a Steph or Kyrie or a Jahn Morant do what

1130
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: they do, no normal person at home thinks they can

1131
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: do that.

1132
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: That's true, right now. That's a good way to look

1133
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: at that. But yeah, good stuff. If you want to

1134
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: hit us up, feel free to do so. At the

1135
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: No Show at Carrie twenty five Roads. We're looking at

1136
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: the most thrilling players in each of the major sports NBA, NFL, MLBUD.

1137
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: My list would be show heyo, Tanni, Patrick Mahomes, Steph Curry,

1138
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: you would go show heyo, Tany, Lamar Jackson, Jahn Morant.

1139
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 5: Those are two really.

1140
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Who'd win that?

1141
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 4: In three NBC show about just all all Sports, who

1142
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: would win that?

1143
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 3: I like that Otani is facing himself, you know, because

1144
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: we have him on both of our lists.

1145
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 5: I would go, I would go advantage me.

1146
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: It's advantaged me because although Lamar Jackson is thrilling, yeah, now,

1147
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: he's not close to Patrick Mahomes in terms of the

1148
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: numbers that he puts up and the consistency factor. It's

1149
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: the same thing with job versus Steph. So if it's

1150
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: just thrilling, that's a different discussion. But if it's you know,

1151
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: like who would just start your team around, it's advantage

1152
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: No in that category, Carrie, I gotta be honest.

1153
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Hey, we

1154
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: we'll be exciting though.

1155
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: It'll be completely exciting, there's no doubt about that. All right,

1156
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: come it up next, we gotta get to this guy.

1157
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: The good guy has gone full nWo from face to heel.

1158
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: We'll dive into that. We are live here from the

1159
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: Tirac dot Com studios. I'm Brian know he's carry Rhoads.

1160
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No, he's Carry

1161
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: Rhoads here on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to you

1162
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: live from the tirac dot Com studios. Now, would you

1163
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: rock this out or Britney Spears right now?

1164
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: It's not even close. No, nope, Carothin Queen.

1165
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know all the words right now, I

1166
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: know the I know the hook though.

1167
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: Just do like, just do the melody and everybody knows.

1168
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no.

1169
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: And get into my car exactly. No, this is this

1170
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: is it right here.

1171
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 5: This is the jam. I got you, man, I got you.

1172
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 9: Now.

1173
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: If it's between this Brittany and say, like, uh, heavy

1174
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: metal band Lamb of God, does that sway it to

1175
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: the Lambs or no?

1176
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 4: No, no way, No, this is just so smooth. I

1177
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: can just see myself right now with a big fro

1178
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: and a thick mustache and just smoking a cigarette, which

1179
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't do. But I just see it all. I

1180
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: see that it paints the picture very well.

1181
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 5: You know what.

1182
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: I randomly thought of the former safety Donovan Darius.

1183
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.

1184
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: Used to he was a hard hitter, right, I know

1185
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: you remember him. But of course he used to listen

1186
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: to classical music all the time before games and in

1187
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 3: his off time because it was so chaotic on the field.

1188
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: He just liked classical music. When you were getting ready

1189
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: to go on the field. What are you rocking out to.

1190
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: The same thing? Really classical, but this isn't you know,

1191
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: there's a lead up to that.

1192
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: Now.

1193
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: I will still listen to all my stuff and you know,

1194
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 4: getting my I guess my juiced stage of you know that,

1195
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: you know, getting that adrenaline going. But right before the game,

1196
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: I would listen to a little a little jazz, a

1197
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: little classical music to calm down because again I was

1198
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 4: a I was a captain at the time, and I

1199
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 4: had to relay so many messages on the field.

1200
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: I wanted to be in control. So yeah, yeah, man,

1201
00:56:59,360 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: that's interesting.

1202
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: I read a piece on Max Crosby just a couple

1203
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: of days ago, and it was really interesting. He talked

1204
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: about the like slowing down, how that can benefit you,

1205
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 3: where he said, as a young guy rushing the passer,

1206
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: you can get there, but it's like when you're about

1207
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: to sack the quarterback, you kind of freak out and

1208
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: you speed up too much. And he's like, as I've

1209
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: gotten a few years under my belt, I've slowed down

1210
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: in those moments and it's helped me actually sack the quarterback.

1211
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: That's just funny where we always talk about the speed

1212
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: of the game being so much faster in the NFL

1213
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: than it is in college, and it is right, but

1214
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: we often overlook the times where it benefits you to

1215
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: slow down.

1216
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: It's that's the that's think about this, Brian. So you

1217
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: hear about, yeah, the speed of the game is fast,

1218
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: but when you hear people that have success in any sport,

1219
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: in any field, they're the ones that can slow it down. Yeah,

1220
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: They're the ones that can you know, obviously have done

1221
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 4: the work and the preparation before they get on the job,

1222
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: and they're seeing things at a totally different speed than others.

1223
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean the physical game has slowed down

1224
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 4: as far as the pace or the speed, but the

1225
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: way in the eyes of which we're seeing things, it's

1226
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: a little bit slower. So that's kind of the that

1227
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 4: would be the I guess the switch or the button

1228
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: that makes a player that's teetering on being good become great.

1229
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, think of another sport.

1230
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: Think about Yokich and how he just can't be sped

1231
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: up and that's his strength. Like Kevin Durant talked about that,

1232
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: like you just can't speed the guy up. He plays

1233
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: at his face or Luca, it exactly plays at a

1234
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 3: slower pace.

1235
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, Brian taking another another to another game baseball, right,

1236
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 4: you have the flame throwers that throw one hundred miles

1237
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: per hour. It doesn't mean you're good. You see the

1238
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: guys that become really good at the game as the

1239
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: game progresses, a progresses and as their career moves forward.

1240
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: Are the ones that can you know, throw that that

1241
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: that eighty five eighty five miles per hour curveball, that

1242
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: throw them off speed and just slow the game down

1243
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: so it goes universally.

1244
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: Amen.

1245
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So, so Damian Lillard, he has gone from good

1246
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: guy to bad guy if you're using a pro wrestling

1247
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 3: tie in here, or he's gone from face. He's been

1248
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: the guy that's Hulk Hogan. He's eating his vitamins. He's

1249
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: gone Hollywood Hogan. Here, he's joined nWo. He's dyeing his

1250
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: beard a different color, you know. And listen, I was

1251
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: in Portland for three years doing local radio. I love

1252
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard. That dude is an absolute warrior. He is

1253
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: a great leader. He has been so unselfish during his

1254
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: career and now it's gone. It's a total one to eighty.

1255
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: Because I get that he wants out of Portland. I

1256
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: understand that he wants to compete for a championship. They're

1257
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: nowhere near doing that right now. They have such a young,

1258
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: young roster. I have no issue with that. But history

1259
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: comes back to bite him here, Carrie, because he has

1260
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: made a lot of comments about other players joining teams,

1261
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: chasing a ring, and he's sideways at those guys. He's

1262
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: talked about Paul George being a chump for not putting

1263
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: in the not embracing the grind, and just going from

1264
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: team to team.

1265
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 5: And now he's doing that.

1266
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: And so that's what comes back to bid them is

1267
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: he's looked sideways at other players hopping teams. Now he's

1268
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: about to hop teams. That's what's really doing him in

1269
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: And I get why he wants to go, right, but man,

1270
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: when you're commenting on other players doing that, it's a

1271
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: bad look.

1272
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: Now.

1273
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things. You're one hundred percent right.

1274
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: I think with him, what I kind of kind of gathered,

1275
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: you know during this process of all these you know,

1276
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 4: reports coming out, like what of the reports which are true?

1277
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: So for me, I don't I haven't really succumbed to

1278
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 4: him being the bad guy just yet, because I don't

1279
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: know what's being true and what's being you know, fabricated.

1280
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: So for me, I'm gonna wait a little bit on that.

1281
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: I obviously it looks like it's gonna happen. He's gonna

1282
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 4: be traded, obviously, but what's true? I mean, you might

1283
01:00:59,080 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 4: know more about.

1284
01:00:59,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: That than me.

1285
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 4: Like you said, you've been around the organization in him

1286
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 4: for a while. Do you think he's asking to just

1287
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: only solely go to Miami and all these reports are true?

1288
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: Or is that some fabrication involved.

1289
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that part of it, it sounds to be true.

1290
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about WOJ and the heaviest hitters

1291
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: are saying. His agent, Aaron Goodwin, has told teams, if

1292
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: it's not the Miami Heat, you're trading for an unhappy player.

1293
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: So his agent has put the word out there that

1294
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: he wants to go to Miami and Miami alone. And

1295
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: that's a tricky thing because I get it, Carrie, if

1296
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: that's the spot he wants to go, I mean, okay,

1297
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 3: he just wants to go there. Why should he say,

1298
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: you know, I want to go to Miami and Philly

1299
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: and I guess the Clippers would be cool too, Like

1300
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: if he just wants to go to Miami, that's where

1301
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: he wants to go. In the process, it really hurts

1302
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: the Blazers, you know, in terms of their their value

1303
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: and what they can get in terms of compensation. It

1304
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: definitely hurts them. But that's advantage Dame. You know, we've

1305
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: got to a point where they're divorcing. Yeah, and you're

1306
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: looking out for number one right now. The Blazers are

1307
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: looking at the best deal they can get. Damian Lillard

1308
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: is looking at the spot he wants to go, and

1309
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna benefit him if the trade package is lessened.

1310
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: Why would he want a greater trade package. That just

1311
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: hurts Dame's ability to win a championship with his new team.

1312
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: So it's a strategic move. It makes sense, but it's tough.

1313
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: When he's been his brand has been I'm the guy

1314
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: who stays loyal. I'm loyal to the soil. I'm not

1315
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: looking to go elsewhere. And now he's going elsewhere and

1316
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: he's hitting the gas like he's flooring it and saying,

1317
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: I just want Miami, And that definitely hurts the Blazers

1318
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: in this whole process.

1319
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things where you know, the

1320
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: loyalty aspect of it. Again, we can always talk about

1321
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 4: that and always say, you know, be loyal to the team,

1322
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 4: loyal to the grind, and vice versa. But at the

1323
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: end of the day, we're humans and and and you know,

1324
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: the organizations are human being. I'm putting putting them, lumping

1325
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: them in one human being category, and the player is

1326
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: as well. And you know, if you know, Dame's been

1327
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: so loyal to them and he feels that, you know,

1328
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: that should be justified and giving back to him as

1329
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: well in this process. But I don't like the way

1330
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: he's putting the words or allowing his agent to be

1331
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 4: a spokesperson. He's been his own spokesperson for ever and

1332
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: we've heard that, like you said, we've heard him say

1333
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm not running from the grind. I'm not that guy.

1334
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 4: And now he has his agent speaking for him. That

1335
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 4: would be the only only thing that I would feel

1336
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: bad about this whole situation. If you're going to speak

1337
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 4: your your truth as as you have in previous years

1338
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 4: speaking truth.

1339
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the other thing is, you know, uh,

1340
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: if you're embracing the grind, he's trying to join a

1341
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: team that.

1342
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 5: Was just in the finals.

1343
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they They've.

1344
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: Been in the finals two of the past four years.

1345
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: They've been to the Eastern Conference finals all but one

1346
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: of those four years. Right, So it's not like he's

1347
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 3: trying to join, say like the Knicks, or like a

1348
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: team that wasn't in the finals that's trying to get there.

1349
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 5: Where he's trying to join the Miami Heat.

1350
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: So this is flying in the face of the brand

1351
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: for the last you know, decade plus or right, Like,

1352
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: this is a complete about face of what he has

1353
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: been all about. And like again, Carrie, I get it,

1354
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: it's just it's the past. It's the past of If

1355
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: he wasn't commenting on other players joining teams, I don't think.

1356
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: This would land as badly as it is right now.

1357
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 4: But the crazy thing about it, Brian, is, to be honest,

1358
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 4: if you look at the rosters of the Knicks and

1359
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: the Heat, I take the Knicks roster though, Hey, so

1360
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 4: I mean so you know what, I don't He's not

1361
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 4: joining a super team. He's still going to have to

1362
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: go and win, and that doesn't I don't even think

1363
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: Dame going to Miami puts them over the top either.

1364
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: So there's I don't say I don't necessarily you see

1365
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: him as joining the super team, and I don't feel

1366
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 4: like it's something that's a guaranteed thing if he goes

1367
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: to either one. So there's a there's a lot of

1368
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: discussion about that one. I hear you, Yeah, trust me,

1369
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1370
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 3: That's what's it's a perception versus reality thing, right, because

1371
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: you're right about the reality. Or Miami, they won forty

1372
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: four games and lost thirty eight, right, Right, that's not

1373
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: a sparkling record, like they were a playing team. Right,

1374
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: they barely got into the playoffs and then they got

1375
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: hot and got to the finals.

1376
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 5: The rest is history.

1377
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: But it's the perception of you're joining a team that

1378
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: was just in the finals, right, and you're supposed to

1379
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: be the guy that you know is embracing the grind.

1380
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 3: That that's not you know, that's not from the playbook

1381
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: of embracing the grind. The grind is you demand a

1382
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: trade to the team that was just in the finals.

1383
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: That so it's the perception versus the reality. You're right

1384
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: about the reality, but the perception is not on his side.

1385
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: B Monzi's having a mental conniption over there. So I'm

1386
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: just relaying it. She's got some stuff to say.

1387
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: She's got she's got something on her mind over here. Okay,

1388
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: is she turning colors?

1389
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: It looks like it. Yeah, Look I feel a little.

1390
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: We gotta find out what she's uh, what she's fired

1391
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 3: up about, and get some information in the process.

1392
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 5: Bontsie what's going on here? Brian? I will not take

1393
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 5: this Damian Lillard slander.

1394
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: I will not.

1395
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 5: Okay, he can't everything you said.

1396
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 8: It's like I was just yelling over here by myself

1397
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 8: in my little room.

1398
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 5: He has done so much for Portland. He has done

1399
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 5: so much.

1400
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 8: You can say what he said about players going to

1401
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 8: other teams.

1402
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 5: Why does he have to keep being the nice guy?

1403
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 8: Why is it his responsibility when they've let him down

1404
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 8: year after year?

1405
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: Why does he have to keep being the nice guy?

1406
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 5: I don't get that.

1407
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 8: Also, the media really needs to be held responsible for

1408
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 8: the amount of pressure that they put on players over

1409
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 8: a ring. If you keep telling Damian Lillard you don't

1410
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 8: have a ring, You're not gonna you don't have a ring.

1411
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 5: We eventually, you know what I mean, He's gonna be like, man,

1412
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 5: I need to get a.

1413
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 8: Ring, like, I just don't get why he has to

1414
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 8: continue being the bad guy or excuse me, be the

1415
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 8: good guy quote unquote in this relationship.

1416
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 5: I don't get that. No, I hear you and listen.

1417
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes nice guys finished last, you know, I want Dame

1418
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: to go elsewhere and to have a better chance to

1419
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: win a championship because he deserves it. He has been

1420
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 3: sensational since he stepped foot in the NBA, and they

1421
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: haven't been as loyal to him as he has been.

1422
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 5: Exactly but exactly, the past.

1423
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: Comes back to bite the Manciay, he's looking sideways and

1424
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 3: being like Paul George, you're a chump for hopping teams.

1425
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: It's like, Dame, that's funny because you're hopping teams right now.

1426
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: Buddy. That comes back to bite you. Yep, yeah, I am.

1427
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: I'm joining everybody else. Everybody else is doing it.

1428
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: Brian, I'm actually scared of you.

1429
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 4: She is, Okay, I'm just letting you know, but I

1430
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 4: feel the fumes coming, and that was on her side.

1431
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 8: I'm just like, even if you even if.

1432
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 5: You're right, oh, he said.

1433
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 8: This in the past, It's like everybody else is doing this.

1434
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 8: Everybody else and their mom is literally going for a

1435
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 8: ring however they can.

1436
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 5: But who's the one guy? Who's the other Who's the

1437
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 5: other guy?

1438
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: I should say, who's the other guy that has said

1439
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 3: I don't like all this spring chasing super teams?

1440
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,480
Speaker 5: Like he's the guy.

1441
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 3: He's the guy that has stood against that and said

1442
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: I am loyal here, and now he's changing that.

1443
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 5: That's all I'm playing. Even if it does, though, I

1444
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 5: still don't see why he has to be the nice guy.

1445
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 5: I just don't because.

1446
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 8: It's like he did so much for this organization for

1447
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 8: as long as he could. And I actually don't want

1448
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 8: him to leave Portland, you know. I want him to

1449
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 8: be Jerknoviski. I want him to be Kobe Bryant and

1450
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 8: play his entire career in Portland. That's really what I want.

1451
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 8: But I don't blame him for wanting to get out.

1452
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 5: It's I don't either. We're on the same side, and

1453
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 5: that we're on the same side the.

1454
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: Same He needs a hot tub time machine, I needs

1455
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 3: a hot tub time machine.

1456
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 13: And the other lawyers, you're allowed to change your mind,

1457
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 13: especially when the media is critiquing you so much for

1458
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 13: winning a championship.

1459
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: He is.

1460
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: In the he is hippocritical. It is not hypocritical, cant all,

1461
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 5: not at all. It's like he did. He's like I

1462
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 5: actually put in my grind in the world.

1463
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking up hypocrite in the dictionary right now. It's

1464
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 3: a picture of Daien Lewis.

1465
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 8: But I swear, if you were not so far away

1466
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 8: right now, I would go find you.

1467
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 4: And the captain says, I embraced the grind.

1468
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 5: Yes, he did it. He did everything. What am I

1469
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 5: supposed to talk to you about?

1470
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: Now?

1471
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 5: I don't even know what's happening. The Mets are losing.

1472
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 5: The Mets are losing.

1473
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they're on the scoreboard though, thank you for

1474
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 8: that at least guided me into baseball now, at least

1475
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 8: on the scoreboard.

1476
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 5: But the Padres are up six to two.

1477
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 8: Manny Machado responsible for five of those six runs.

1478
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 5: You guys were talking about. Not the same. But I

1479
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 5: will say I hate Manny Machatto.

1480
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 8: I hate him, but that dude looks so cool when

1481
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 8: he plays, the way he fields the ball, the way

1482
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,879
Speaker 8: he looks so cool every time he plays.

1483
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 5: And I hate him because I hate him anyway. The

1484
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 5: Orioles have won five in a row. They dominated the

1485
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 5: Twins today. Fifteen to two was the final score.

1486
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 8: They hit seven home runs in the game, including Adlie Rutschman,

1487
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 8: who hit a four hundred and sixty one foot bomb

1488
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 8: in the victory. Anthony Santander two home runs. But yeah,

1489
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 8: Orioles are definitely hot. Who is not hot? The Yankees?

1490
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: No boing on. They really do need Aaron Judge back.

1491
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 8: They lost to the Cups in the Bronx today seventy

1492
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 8: four and it's officially been announced that New York has

1493
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 8: fired their hitting coach Dylan Lawson. So they think he's

1494
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 8: the problem.

1495
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: He's not the problem. He's not the problem, guys, right,

1496
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 5: there's the problem. No, No, not at all.

1497
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 8: The Giants they held on to beat the Rockies one zero.

1498
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 8: Logan Web, guys, pitch the entire game. We don't see

1499
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 8: that anymore, an entire game. And he struck out ten

1500
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 8: in the victory and Sepstraca officially won the John Deere Classic.

1501
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 8: Earlier today, some messy things have been in college sports,

1502
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 8: like former West Virginia men's basketball coach Bob Huggins. I

1503
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 8: think he's still drunk. He resigned a few weeks ago

1504
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 8: after a Deui rs. He's claiming through an attorney that

1505
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 8: he never formally resigned and he's going to sue the

1506
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 8: university if he's not reinstated. Basically, he said that the

1507
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 8: correspondence sent to the school came from his wife, not him,

1508
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 8: So not only messi at the school, a messy at home.

1509
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 8: Northwestern announced that they're going to reconsider penalties for coach

1510
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 8: Pat Fitzgerald, who was suspended two weeks without pay. This

1511
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 8: started on Friday. New details emerged yesterday. There's still details

1512
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 8: that are coming out on this situation about hazing in

1513
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 8: the football program. A lot of details that are not

1514
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 8: appropriate to say on the radio, So if you're interested,

1515
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 8: go look it up.

1516
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 5: It's really just some stuff you just don't want to

1517
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: hear about. You know what I'm saying. You know what

1518
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying. A little football news. Did you guys hear

1519
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 5: this that apparently the Rams.

1520
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 8: Were really trying to trade Matt Stafford in the off season.

1521
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 5: This was a report.

1522
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 8: It hasn't hit the big news stories yet, but it

1523
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 8: came out because a former NFL executive was on the

1524
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 8: most recent episode of The Pat mac cofee Show and

1525
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 8: he said that the Rams tried very hard to trade

1526
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,759
Speaker 8: Matt Stafford and it did not work out. Denver Broncos

1527
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 8: running back Javonte Williams, who suffered a torn acl in

1528
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 8: Week four last season, said today at a football camp

1529
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 8: that he feels ready to go and the plan is

1530
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 8: for him.

1531
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 5: To be cleared for the start of training camp. So

1532
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 5: good news there. Back to you guys, good stuff.

1533
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 2: No Damian Lillard slander.

1534
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 5: Here's the thing. I'm going to give you.

1535
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 8: An examples, nymphisis it's the only word he knows.

1536
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 5: It sucks.

1537
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: It sucks.

1538
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: By the way, it's not even what we got Wimbledon

1539
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 3: going on right now. We do wearing all white and

1540
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: all if I say it's so stupid to wear all white,

1541
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that. These people that wear all white,

1542
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: they're chumps. And then the next thing you see is

1543
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: me wearing all white. Why don't you look at me

1544
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,440
Speaker 3: and be like, Brian, what was all this talk about.

1545
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 5: Not wearing all white? Now you're wearing this all white.

1546
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 3: You'd look at me sideways for saying those things and

1547
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: then doing the option.

1548
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: Right here, right now, I'm gonna let months go first.

1549
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 10: You're really you're real slick here, Brian, because yes, you

1550
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 10: made a great example not the same at all, because

1551
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 10: Damian Lillard has actually put in time and work, in

1552
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 10: tears and effort and all of this.

1553
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 5: You did you show to wimbled.

1554
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 8: Then one year and you're like, I'm not gonna wear

1555
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 8: white this that.

1556
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: No, it's not the same.

1557
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 3: Even though your example was good, it's going against what

1558
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: you said in the past.

1559
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 4: Okay, big, big, let's let's think of it this way then,

1560
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 4: all right, all right. He was saying that at a

1561
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: stage where he was in the grind, he was lost

1562
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: in the moment. He was seeing other people run around

1563
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: and doing this and joining super teams and you know,

1564
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah. Right, those things are real,

1565
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: and they were real at that time. He's evolved to

1566
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 4: a state of now seeing that he's not going to

1567
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 4: be able to do what he wants to do in

1568
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 4: the grind in Portland, and now he wants a better

1569
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 4: shot at it.

1570
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1571
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 4: Would you would that change your stance on it from

1572
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: a standpoint of him maybe maturing past the point of

1573
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 4: saying those things about other people and really understanding his

1574
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: own situation better. How about that? Would that give you

1575
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 4: a little a little difference on that?

1576
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: Nope?

1577
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: But it's a great it's a great point to bring up.

1578
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 3: But there's no reason to talk about Paul George's if.

1579
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 5: He's specifically asked about something like that.

1580
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: He's throwing messages out there. We'll get back into it.

1581
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: We'll get back in because he's throwing Instagram messages out there,

1582
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 3: and you know, I hate being in this position. I

1583
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: love the man, but the truth is the truth. Okay,

1584
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm beholden to the truth over here.

1585
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 5: We also have to get to this coming up, which

1586
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 5: is more sobering.

1587
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: You're welcome to the NFL moment or you I gotta

1588
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 3: get out of the NFL moment that's on the way.

1589
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm Brian no He's carry Roads keep it locked right

1590
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio.

1591
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Noo.

1592
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: He's carry Rhoads here on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming

1593
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 3: to you line from the Tirerack dot Com Studios. We'll

1594
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 3: pick it back up with Dame next hour, because I

1595
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: feel like to a sneak attack for me to talk

1596
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: Dame when Monci's not around, you know what I mean, Like,

1597
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: she's got to be part of the mix over here, Carrie.

1598
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 3: So we'll revisit that next hour. I want to turn

1599
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: your attention though to Richard Sherman. So, Richard Sherman, former

1600
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: NFL cornerback, he was on his podcast and he was

1601
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 3: talking to Lane Johnson, he's an Eagles offensive lineman, and

1602
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 3: so Richard Sherman told this story where he knew when

1603
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: it was time to retire. So this was Week six

1604
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty one season and Tampa was at

1605
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 3: Philly and Richard Sherman was guarding Davonte Smith really good,

1606
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 3: I think at the time, rookie Eagles receiver yep. And

1607
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: he said he was with them step for step, and

1608
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Davonte Smith put on the brakes

1609
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 3: and and Richard Sherman said, his groin told him out

1610
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: snap stab and He's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, And

1611
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 3: he knew right then and there it was time to

1612
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: hang him up, which is more sobering.

1613
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 5: Carrie, is it You're welcome.

1614
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: To the NFL moment or you're I gotta get out

1615
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: of the NFL moment?

1616
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 4: I think it's still welcome to the NFL moment because

1617
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 4: you've been obviously the best player on your team for

1618
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: a long time. Right coming into the NFL or any

1619
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 4: professional sport, so you kind of have this, you know,

1620
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: this level of confidence that you need but also need

1621
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 4: to be broken to actually start to perform on a

1622
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 4: level where you're a really good player on that next level.

1623
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 4: So I would say that that welcome to the NFL

1624
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 4: moments probably the most sobering because you get to realize

1625
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 4: you're not the only outfit in the room, and you

1626
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 4: also get to realize that these guys are just as athletic, talented, strong,

1627
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 4: fast as you are. So either you're going to adapt

1628
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 4: to that and get better or you're going to fall

1629
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: to the wayside. So I would say they're welcome. They

1630
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 4: welcome to my moment.

1631
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 5: Do you remember you're welcome to the NFL moment?

1632
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah.

1633
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 4: It was the first game, Like I said, it was

1634
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 4: the first game of the season, so preseason, I'm killing it.

1635
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: I'm you know, picking off all these you know, these

1636
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks. And it's actually it's actually pretty funny because

1637
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 4: my defensive coordinator at the time, his name was Donnie Henderson.

1638
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 4: When I was a rookie in O five with the Jets,

1639
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 4: I was balling out, playing really well, and he was like,

1640
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 4: you're playing He said this term, you're playing these these

1641
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 4: these kids that he had a derogatory word to us,

1642
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to go to that. But he

1643
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 4: was simply implying, simply implying that I'm playing I'm playing

1644
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: guys that I should be doing this against. And I,

1645
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, no, I can do this

1646
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: against the starters as well. And we get into week

1647
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 4: one against the Chiefs and they are running the ball

1648
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 4: down my throat and the crowd's going crazy and narrowhead,

1649
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 4: and I was after the game, I literally told him,

1650
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 4: trust me, please, I'm still a good player.

1651
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: I know I can do that.

1652
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 4: You know, like I'm starting to really explain that I

1653
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 4: can still get the job done.

1654
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: But that was my moment for me right away. Games

1655
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 2: just look at you like I told you.

1656
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: He said, I told you, But he also said you're

1657
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 4: my guy, so he did comfort me. But I had

1658
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 4: to like I was like, I'm never going to play again.

1659
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 4: That's how I really felt about the moment.

1660
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 3: It was funny about how about that the other moment,

1661
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: like with Richard Truman explaining he knew when it was

1662
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: time to like, man, this is it. I don't have

1663
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 3: it for these young guys anymore. Do you remember that

1664
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 3: moment for you.

1665
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: No, I didn't have it when I left in thirteen.

1666
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 4: I just left off one of my best years as

1667
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 4: well statistically and number wise, so I wasn't in the

1668
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 4: position to say I can't do it anymore. So I

1669
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 4: don't know that feeling, that's, so to speak. But I've

1670
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 4: seen it. I've seen guys not have that step anymore,

1671
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 4: have that burst and you know all those different things.

1672
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: But I don't know it. I don't know it on myself.

1673
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well that obviously adds up if you

1674
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 3: don't even have that moment of course, to welcome to

1675
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: the NFL moment? Would I think of, man, some of

1676
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: these players who were great in the NFL Hall of Famers,

1677
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: And there's that one play where if you're a corner,

1678
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: that wide receiver just burns you and you're like, what

1679
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: your groin is about to snap right off because you

1680
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: had to put on the brakes real fast.

1681
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 5: That's sobering too, man, Really.

1682
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: Is it hurts? It hurts your soul? Literally?

1683
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 3: Come it up next, Dominance versus Production?

1684
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on?

1685
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 5: Everybody?

1686
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 3: Hope you're enjoying your Sunday. We got to get to

1687
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: dominance versus production. Here very interesting take from former NBA

1688
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 3: player Dwight Howard. We are broadcasting live from the Tirereck

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 3: buying should be so Carrie Rhoades. Dwight Howard had an

1693
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 3: opinion that caught a lot of attention. He was comparing

1694
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: himself to NIKOLEA. Jokich, who just won an NBA championship.

1695
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: Jokich was a two time MVP, but Dwight Howard says

1696
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 3: he considers himself to be more dominant during his prime

1697
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 3: than Jokich is now. And he went on, and I'll

1698
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: give you a couple of quotes here. He said, Obviously,

1699
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 3: people going to say Jokic can score, He's got all

1700
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: those offensive skills. But at the same time, I was

1701
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: getting thirty eight and twenty forty five and eighteen nineteen twenty.

1702
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm doing all of this with twos, no threes, all twos.

1703
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing this with lobs. I'm not getting a lot

1704
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,440
Speaker 3: of post up attempts like Jokic. He's getting way more opportunities.

1705
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't want people to think that I'm trying to

1706
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: hate even comparing, but I'm going to take my I

1707
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 3: know how dominant I was, and I know what I

1708
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: could do with my skills.

1709
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 5: What do you think about all that.

1710
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: He's not lyon?

1711
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 4: He was a dominant player. I just don't like when

1712
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 4: players get into the comparison game. It's so hard. They're

1713
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: totally different players. Obviously, Jokic does get the ball a

1714
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: lot more because he's more skilled as far as an

1715
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 4: offensive talent, right, he's making people around them better. Not

1716
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 4: only can he score at at an all time efficient rate,

1717
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 4: he makes other players around them better.

1718
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: So he's going to get more opportunities. Right.

1719
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 4: As far as the numbers go, you can't prime. Dwight

1720
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 4: Howard was one of the best players in the NBA,

1721
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: and that's just that's a fact. Now, is he a

1722
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: generational type player in the same sentences as Jokic In

1723
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: that regard, he's not.

1724
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: So it's hard to compare the two. But as far

1725
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: as numbers go, he can stack his numbers up with

1726
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: them if he wants.

1727
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 3: Look man, as far as defense stats, there's no comparison,

1728
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: And yes, like that that's Howard all day, where he

1729
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 3: was a three time defensive Player of the Year and

1730
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 3: he had two seasons he led the league in blocks.

1731
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,919
Speaker 3: You know, he led the league in rebounds for five seasons.

1732
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 3: So defensively, I mean, that's Dwight Howard all day. But man,

1733
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 3: in terms of offense, I don't want to hear this.

1734
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: I did it with all twos. Whose fault is that

1735
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: did they not have a three point line? Like I

1736
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 3: look at a guy like Brook Lopez. Think about Brooke

1737
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 3: who never shot threes before ever, and now he's shooting

1738
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: about five per game and doing it well, right, and

1739
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: he's playing at the same time Dwight Howard is like

1740
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: Dwight Howard acts like he was playing in the nineties

1741
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: and no big man ever shot a three ever. It's like, right, dude,

1742
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 3: you played in the same era. I don't want to

1743
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: hear that I did it with all twos as if

1744
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: it was just because of the era.

1745
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 5: It's because you never expanded your game.

1746
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 3: Dwight Howard was athletic, and he was dominant and powerful,

1747
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: but he was not skilled. He did not have even

1748
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 3: a mid range shot. It was all close to the rim,

1749
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 3: close range. He didn't have any range, and that's on him.

1750
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 4: Well be I'll say this though, he played with an

1751
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 4: old school style coach as well, with Ben Gundy, right,

1752
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 4: So I'm sure Ben Gundhy wouldn't have appreciated him going

1753
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 4: out to try three. So I'm sure he wasn't really

1754
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 4: you know, focusing on that part of his game at all.

1755
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: So it's very hard man.

1756
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 4: I mean, you can look at Dawight Howard shot until

1757
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 4: he wasn't going to be a good shooter, right. He

1758
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 4: shoots a hard ball, and similar to Shaq when he

1759
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 4: came into the league, he was super athletic as well

1760
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 4: and could handle the ball and do certain things. But

1761
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 4: it just wasn't ask of those two guys or those

1762
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 4: individuals to expand their game where this game is totally

1763
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: different too.

1764
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a reason why, Yeah, he's not

1765
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: asked to expand these games, because he had no game

1766
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: outside of close range, right, Like if he's showing that

1767
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: he can shoot it, like when the basketball was moving

1768
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: to that, you know what I mean. Like Karl Anthony

1769
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 3: Towns has been doing it for a while, Brook Lopez

1770
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: been doing it for a while, Jokic has been, you know,

1771
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 3: showing range for a long time. It's not like this

1772
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 3: just happened two years ago and Dwight was basically already

1773
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 3: out of the NBA. Like, so I think that there's

1774
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 3: a reason why he wasn't asked to expand his game

1775
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: is because he didn't have one.

1776
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 5: He didn't even have a mid range game.

1777
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 3: So like that's like Ben Simmons starting to shoot threes,

1778
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like that's never gonna make

1779
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: sense for Dwight Howard. And so I look at him

1780
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: closer than who his head coach was or that type

1781
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: of thing.

1782
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 5: It's because he never progressed.

1783
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's because of whoever was coaching

1784
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 3: him and just putting the handcuffs on him. That was

1785
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: him putting the handcuffs on himself more than anything.

1786
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those again.

1787
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 4: It all boils down to me that you don't why

1788
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 4: why compare right now? Anyway, this guy just Zki's just

1789
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 4: won an NBA championship, He's been the back to back MVP.

1790
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just not the right time to talk

1791
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: about it. I Mean, obviously people are gonna look at

1792
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 4: that and say it's not close. But I just think

1793
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 4: that there's a little validity to what he's saying as

1794
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: far as the dominance park, because the dominant park can

1795
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: be you know, you can take that in any you know,

1796
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: with any breath or any breath that you want to

1797
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: put it in.

1798
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 2: You could, you can. You can have an argument there, right, But.

1799
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 3: It's just not the right time, right, I hear you

1800
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: on that. I'm just not giving brownie points for it.

1801
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing this with all two's. Yeah, it's like, okay,

1802
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 3: was it a crime to be able to expand your

1803
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: your game and shoot from long range?

1804
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 5: There's no way he could ever do that. He just

1805
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 5: wasn't that guy, right.

1806
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as the defensive credentials, he was off

1807
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 3: the charts. And I do hate this when and he

1808
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 3: brought this up the comparison game. But if we're going

1809
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 3: down this road, I hate to do the comparison game

1810
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: because Dwight Howard was so much better early in his

1811
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 3: career than he ever gets credit for. He was such

1812
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: a good player, but he was often looked at for

1813
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: what he didn't do. He was kind of like the

1814
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 3: Westbrook of big men. It's really what he was. I

1815
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 3: like that, right, Like we're looking at what he doesn't

1816
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 3: do well instead of what he just absolutely excels at.

1817
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 3: And I think that's unfortunate, But I mean a lot

1818
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 3: of that.

1819
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 5: Was was on Dwight.

1820
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: It's he just he was so athletic and so skilled,

1821
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: but he just he didn't maximize those gifts, you know

1822
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 3: what I mean. He just wasn't a guy that was

1823
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 3: gonna work his genitals off, expanding his range and becoming

1824
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 3: a better player. He just wasn't that guy. But he

1825
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: brought so much to the table, and I hate that

1826
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 3: it's glossed over.

1827
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part, that's the part that I don't like either.

1828
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 4: I mean, think about that all that's seventy five what

1829
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 4: was it, the top seventy five list the NBA. Yeah,

1830
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 4: the players, some of the players they put in in

1831
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 4: front of him was just ridiculous. And that just shows

1832
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 4: how much in the now, with social media and you know,

1833
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 4: all these things that are being put in front of us,

1834
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 4: in these stats and stuff that are being put in

1835
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 4: front of us, how easily we forget what people have

1836
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 4: done or accomplish in this league because it's so much

1837
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 4: about what have you done lately? We're a guy like

1838
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 4: Dwight Howard with his accolades and the stuff you just said,

1839
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 4: I mean his defensive prow with his rebounds. He took

1840
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 4: that Orlando Magic team to the finals, so say if

1841
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 4: you want that finals that that.

1842
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: Changed the perception of him.

1843
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 4: Who knows, but just people get so caught up in

1844
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: and what a person's doing right now that they forgetting

1845
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 4: gloss over what they've done.

1846
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true.

1847
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 3: And man, I also think that if we really get

1848
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 3: into this, might be looking at it too closely. Maybe

1849
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 3: not Carrie, but when he's talking about dominating right like

1850
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: he thought he was more dominant in his prime than

1851
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: Yo kiches, I think a lot of that is how

1852
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 3: it looks, you know what I mean, It's a Howard

1853
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,440
Speaker 3: type thing. There's no doubt Dwight Howard was more powerful

1854
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 3: right than Jokic because Jokic is more of a finesse player.

1855
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: But I don't get down with the dominance type thing.

1856
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 3: I look at production. It's just like how productive are you?

1857
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,919
Speaker 3: And there's no doubt that Jokic is more productive. Jokic

1858
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 3: is the best passing big man of all time, and

1859
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: he doesn't do it with the power that Dwight Howard did.

1860
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 3: But I think we're getting off track. Here where it's

1861
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 3: who cares if it's not as powerful? How effective are you?

1862
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 3: Who was more effective? And that's where Jokic wins this battle.

1863
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 3: It would be like think about boxing Carrie Floyd Mayweather. Ye,

1864
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: Money may is not a knockout artist. He was not

1865
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 3: like powerful, He wasn't dominant in that aspect.

1866
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 5: Guess what he was undefeated. He's fifty and oho.

1867
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 3: Now I don't care if you're not knocking dudes out

1868
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: left and right. It's like how effective are you? And

1869
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 3: that's Jokic. He was more effective. I don't care about

1870
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: the domin minutes or of the power aspect as much

1871
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 3: as I do overall production.

1872
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 4: I love that comparison because even Money Mayweather in his

1873
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 4: in his you know, he's been in his prime for

1874
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 4: a long time, but in his younger years he did

1875
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 4: have power. He had to adjust his game based off

1876
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 4: an injury. He hurt his right hand when he was younger,

1877
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: and so he didn't, you know, want to throw that

1878
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 4: power right hand as much as he used to. But

1879
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 4: he changed his game. Talk about putting in the work

1880
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 4: and evolve into a different fighter and still being productive

1881
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 4: and still being undefeated. And I mean there's nobody like him, right,

1882
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 4: So I like that comparison a lot. I mean, I

1883
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 4: think that's kind of what yokis is as well. I

1884
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 4: think he is dominant in his era. It's not the same,

1885
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't look the same as the Whites was, but

1886
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 4: he's still dominant.

1887
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 3: Though, right right, Or you could do a Tyson thing,

1888
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 3: you know, think about Tyson, how dominant that guy was,

1889
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: how powerful he was a vander Holyfield wasn't known as

1890
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: dominant as powerful holy.

1891
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 5: Field beat him twice. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1892
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: Like existly, some times we get enamored with the dude

1893
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 3: that throws the one hundred and five mile per hour fastball,

1894
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 3: and that's cool, but it's like, how productive are you

1895
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 3: with whatever you're doing out there? And that's where I

1896
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 3: think that although it looked a lot different, although Jokic

1897
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 3: does it with more finesse than power, I think that

1898
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 3: Jokic is more productive than Dwight was even in his prime.

1899
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 3: But to be fair, it's closer than it seems right

1900
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 3: here right now, with Jokic just winning a championship and

1901
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: Dwight several years removed from his prime, it's closer, but

1902
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 3: I still think it's advantage Jokic.

1903
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just no question advantage Jokis and he's still

1904
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 4: he's going to be able to do this for a

1905
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 4: long time. It's not like it's over, you know, He's

1906
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 4: still got a lot of time to go.

1907
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: And that's the other part of it too, is like

1908
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 3: the power aspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against it,

1909
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 3: but power doesn't age as well as finesse does. Okay, No,

1910
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Like there's a reason that Michael Jordan switched to more

1911
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 3: of a finesse game later in his career instead of

1912
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 3: just this downhill attack the rim style. It's the same

1913
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 3: thing with big men, Like you're right, Carrie, Yokicic's game

1914
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 3: it translates to old way better than Dwight Howard's game did.

1915
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 3: And that's the other reason why I'm not going to

1916
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 3: just look at power and dominance like that where it's man,

1917
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,480
Speaker 3: hey man, finesse. It's got staying power and Jokic absolutely

1918
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 3: has that in his favor.

1919
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: Ah, it's not. Yeah, that part is not even close.

1920
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 4: And you can even take it a step further, right,

1921
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 4: what's the position in the NFL that has a flash

1922
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,839
Speaker 4: of time where it can look pretty and look strong

1923
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 4: and dominant, but doesn't last long running back there you go. Yeah,

1924
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 4: that's why those guys aren't getting paid anymore. That's why

1925
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 4: those guys are running back by committee now because you can't.

1926
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 4: That doesn't achieve longevity in the long run. And so

1927
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: you got to be able to be flexible and change

1928
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 4: a game and have some finesse and have some power

1929
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 4: and mix it up.

1930
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that. Good stuff. All right, we

1931
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: got a lot to do here. I didn't know that

1932
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 3: I'd be talking a whole lot of Wimbledon with you today, Carrie.

1933
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

1934
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 3: But there are a couple of things that are hilarious

1935
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 3: I think, I think you besides the all white all right. Oh,

1936
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 3: and we're gonna revisit Dame Dollar, fame hypocritical Dollar over

1937
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: there with mont. I know she's warm enough, she's getting

1938
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 3: ready for the update. She might be turning colors right now,

1939
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 3: you know. But we'll get feisty with Monsey as well

1940
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 3: and have some fun with that. I'm Brian No, he's

1941
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 3: Carrie Rhoades. We are live from the tyrack dot Com

1942
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 3: studios right here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No,

1943
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 3: He's Carrie Rhoads here on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming

1944
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 3: to you live from the Tirat dot com studios. Yeah, so, Carrie,

1945
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 3: I don't care where the funny is. I don't care

1946
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: if it's in the NFL, the NBA. I don't care

1947
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: if it's Wimbledon. I go where the funny is, Okay,

1948
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,520
Speaker 3: and there's some funny stuff in Wimbledon.

1949
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 2: Here.

1950
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 3: So the first thing is the chair umpire. You don't

1951
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 3: hear this very often. Check us out during a match.

1952
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Love fifteen ladies and gentlemen.

1953
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 7: Please, if you are opening a bottle of champagne, don't

1954
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 7: do it as a player to thank you.

1955
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Oh you love that. Don't open the bottle of champagne

1956
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: while they're serving.

1957
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Please.

1958
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Let's get back to action over here. Uh, there's also this, Carrie.

1959
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 3: This okay. So the matches in the fifth set tiebreaker, okay,

1960
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 3: we're talking about our man, Alejandro Davidovich fakina. Okay, he's serving,

1961
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 3: it's eight eight, fifth set tiebreaker. He goes with the

1962
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 3: underarm serve. Okay, not like throwing it in the air

1963
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 3: and smashing it as fast as he can.

1964
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 5: He goes under arm. He goes finesse. Over here. This

1965
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 5: is how that sounded.

1966
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 9: But he goes against the man who executed it on

1967
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 9: old Garuna have points.

1968
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I've.

1969
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 3: Seen some decisions in my life, but I have never

1970
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 3: seen something like that, an underwraune.

1971
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 4: Sir Al Yeah, yes, loose is what we call that, Carrie.

1972
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think about what this would be like

1973
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 3: in basketball. It's probably the best comparison. This would be

1974
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 3: a tie game, late, very little time and a good

1975
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 3: free throw shooter. He steps to the line and he says,

1976
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna play a hunch here. I'm

1977
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: gonna shoot this free throw underhanded, and missus, do you

1978
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: realize what we would be saying about that?

1979
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 5: And that's what this Wimbledon tennis player just did.

1980
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'd be an old to Jerry West, that'd

1981
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 4: be the under the underhand free throw joint. Yeah, that'd

1982
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: be talked about for a while, especially if you didn't

1983
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 4: execute it. And even if you executed it, it would probably

1984
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 4: be one of those things where.

1985
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: Oh, he thinks he's too good now. To be any

1986
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: positive spin that comes from that, there.

1987
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 3: Would be some naysayers. There's always those naysayers out there.

1988
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 3: But man, if you're gonna do that you better execute it.

1989
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: You better executed and he did not.

1990
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 2: He did not. Yeah, he'll never live it down.

1991
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, now this is the last one. This isn't just

1992
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,919
Speaker 3: a tennis thing. You can expand this to all sports.

1993
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: This reporter needs to be fired immediately. I'm not the

1994
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 3: guy that oftentimes calls for people's jobs. I'll call for

1995
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,600
Speaker 3: this guy's job immediately. He needs to be out. So

1996
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 3: this reporter, he's talking to Paula, Bodosha and Vadosa. She

1997
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 3: had to retire from her match, so he congratulates her

1998
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 3: on the win.

1999
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 2: She has to accept the record straight. Listen to this.

2000
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:49,799
Speaker 6: I lost.

2001
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 8: If you missed some matches because of injuria, tell us

2002
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 8: about your fitness and condence.

2003
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 9: Please.

2004
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: For information. I just lost.

2005
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 9: I didn't win.

2006
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, she didn't win. The I don't know, like

2007
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 3: the person that helps it out, what do they call that?

2008
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 3: Like the PR person is like, yeah, the news.

2009
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 5: Flash, she didn't win, and he's like she really did.

2010
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: Wow, it's like a f yi, yeah yeah yeah he

2011
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: didn't win.

2012
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah No, that's that's an all time blunder, especially

2013
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 4: in a high stakes tournament like that where you know,

2014
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 4: obviously she doesn't feel well about where she's at right now,

2015
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 4: and happened to not being able to finish, and then

2016
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 4: on top of that, you just add insult to injury.

2017
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 4: It's not a good thing, not a.

2018
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 5: Good at all.

2019
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 3: The congratulations on the wind, I just this is an

2020
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,440
Speaker 3: all time sound bite right here.

2021
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 6: I lost.

2022
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 4: It's like a Saturday Night Live but our time. Yeah,

2023
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 4: comedic timing was spot I'm.

2024
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 5: Trying to think of.

2025
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,839
Speaker 3: It's not as good with team sports, although it could

2026
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 3: work with that.

2027
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 5: You know, congratulations on the win. We just lost.

2028
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 3: Dude, what are you talking about? But individual sports? If

2029
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 3: it's boxing, if it's MMA, right, right.

2030
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 4: Man, didn't you just watch the match? Obviously he didn't, right.

2031
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 4: He came off the sidelines, he probably was still sleep

2032
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 4: during the match and came in and it was just

2033
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 4: a lot at time to come speak and he was.

2034
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, you won the game. He's like, no,

2035
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I did not win. You at least kind of get

2036
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: that right.

2037
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

2038
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Strange comparison, Carrie, But when Michael Jordan when he owned

2039
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: the Charlotte Hornets, I'm not looking for him to win

2040
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: four rings as a team owner. You gotta get me

2041
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 3: at least one first series win, you know what I mean,

2042
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 3: just one series win over thirteen years. Didn't even have that.

2043
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 3: So for the pool reporter, I don't need you to

2044
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 3: know every last tiny detail about whatever you're covering.

2045
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 5: I need you to know who won. I need you

2046
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 5: to know that much.

2047
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So the prerequisite is you should know who won.

2048
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, Now we're like bringing the bar down a

2049
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 4: little bit more to kind of.

2050
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Just yeah, make it.

2051
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we kind of at least get to that point. Okay,

2052
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 3: So we circle back to Damian Lillard. This is kind

2053
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,879
Speaker 3: of like the pre chorus to the Monty Bolanos chorus. Okay,

2054
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 3: so we differ on un Dame. Love the guy, but

2055
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 3: it's hypocritical to be looking sideways at all these other

2056
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 3: players who went to other teams and now he's going

2057
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: to do the same thing.

2058
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: It just it is what it is. Let me ask

2059
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 2: you this, Carrie.

2060
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 3: There are four doors right here, Okay, what you're faced

2061
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 3: with as a player, that is, you know, like the

2062
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 3: franchise player. Damian Lillard is the Portland Trailblazers franchise player, right,

2063
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 3: so he has four choices.

2064
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 5: Door number one.

2065
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 3: Is the best choice, which is your Dirk Novitzky like

2066
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: your guy, right, yep, you stay put, you win a championship.

2067
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 3: That's the most ideal. Now we get door number two,

2068
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 3: Reggie Miller, you stay put, you don't win a ring. Okay,

2069
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 3: there's also Kevin Garnett who went elsewhere, won a ring,

2070
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 3: went from Minnesota to Boston, won a championship. The flip

2071
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 3: side of that is a guy like Karl Malone, he

2072
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 3: went elsewhere, didn't win a ring. So, which which is

2073
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 3: the worst of these options? The best is Dirk, the

2074
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 3: second best is kg Right, which is the worst. Is

2075
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 3: it Reggie Miller you stay put, don't win a ring?

2076
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 3: Or is it Karl Malone you go elsewhere and don't

2077
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 3: win a ring?

2078
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh? The worst is definitely Karl Malone. Yeah, one hundred percent.

2079
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean he obviously was mister Utah Jazz for ever,

2080
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 4: MVP Hall of Famer cemented. Obviously, then you go to

2081
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 4: the Lakers and chase a ring with that team, and

2082
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 4: literally obviously at that point for him, he was past

2083
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 4: his prime. Where you know, Dame is still in still

2084
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 4: in it, He's still in his prime, right, He's still

2085
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 4: playing at a at an all you know, all NBA level.

2086
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 4: So what's gonna happen for him if he was to

2087
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 4: go to Miami and not have the success, You're always

2088
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 4: gonna question why go there and leave and wreck the

2089
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 4: image that you had in Portland? Right, That's gonna always

2090
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 4: kind of come up. He'll always be mister trail blazer,

2091
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 4: but you'll always have that that doubt of why I

2092
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 4: could have just stayed and done it here, right instead

2093
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 4: of going to a team and not get it done there.

2094
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's a tough one, but I would

2095
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 4: definitely say the Karl Malone when is the worst for sure.

2096
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 3: And that's where I think that Dame is in a really,

2097
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,719
Speaker 3: really tough spot. And this is the part we haven't

2098
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 3: talked about, Carrie, is he really has to do the

2099
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 3: KG path for this to pay off, right right? Think

2100
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 3: about this where being Reggie Miller isn't the worst thing ever.

2101
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 3: Where if you stay with Portland the whole time, don't

2102
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: win a ring. I mean, you still are the guy there.

2103
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 3: That beats the Karl Malone situation where he could have

2104
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 3: been the guy with the Utah Jazz. Now he's still

2105
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: thought of as the guy, but it's different. It's different

2106
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 3: when he goes to the Lakers and doesn't win a championship.

2107
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:21,679
Speaker 5: It's just different.

2108
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 3: So for Dame, you know, he's really got to see

2109
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 3: this thing through and win a ring like KG did

2110
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 3: because his backdrop is different as well. If he had

2111
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 3: just mindus P's and Q's, he didn't say anything about

2112
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 3: any other player going to any other team, and now

2113
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 3: he's going to go to another team, he wouldn't be

2114
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 3: facing so much scrutiny. But if he goes elsewhere and

2115
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 3: doesn't win a ring, he's gonna get a lot of

2116
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 3: flak for that based on the backdrop that he created, right, Like,

2117
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 3: that's what we're looking at here.

2118
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 2: He will.

2119
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 4: And what's even even more different in his situation is

2120
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 4: the two that you just named, Reggie and Carl Malone.

2121
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 4: They both went to the finals, so they've even accomplished

2122
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 4: a little bit more in those situations they were in

2123
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 4: than Dame has. And I think, to be honest, Dames

2124
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 4: had chances to get to that point. He had a

2125
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 4: team when they lost the Golden State obviously that year,

2126
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 4: but they had a team that could have gotten to

2127
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 4: the finals and didn't get it done. So you know,

2128
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 4: Reggie Miller and Karl Malone both made it to the finals. Right,

2129
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 4: they had chances and proved to be, you know, right

2130
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,799
Speaker 4: up there with those top guys by standing the grind

2131
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 4: and almost getting it done and getting that taste of

2132
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 4: it where you could see even I Karl Malone wanting

2133
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 4: to go like he's done. He know he wasn't the

2134
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 4: guy anymore. He's trying to piggyback on the championship where

2135
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 4: Dame Is still has a chance to go to Miami

2136
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 4: and still be considered the guy, and the pressure is

2137
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 4: going to be crazy on him to win there.

2138
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look like, look at these two options. This

2139
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 3: is really what it's down to. It's stay in Portland.

2140
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: You got a bunch of young guys. You're not even

2141
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 3: close to title contention. That's not ideal, right right, Or

2142
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 3: as he's put it, it's just Miami. Let's say it

2143
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 3: gets there, you have to win it all. I agree

2144
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 3: those are two tough options for the guy.

2145
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 4: I agree he has to win. Brian, I one hundred

2146
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 4: percent agree with that. Monsi's still looking at me crazy.

2147
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 2: So I'm trying.

2148
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm trying not to stutter here. I'm trying to make

2149
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 4: sure I get this point out. But the thing about

2150
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 4: the whole Dame situation is I've seen the reports and

2151
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 4: I've seen where even teams that if he went there,

2152
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 4: they would win, like a Boston, Right, I've heard reports

2153
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 4: of Boston, you know, throwing their hat in the ring

2154
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 4: at possibly bringing him in. Right, go to a situation

2155
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 4: like that and wins, then that makes sense. That's that's

2156
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 4: the same thing that's KG did, right, went to Boston,

2157
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 4: wanted in Boston. So you know, having that opportunity would

2158
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 4: be for me, would make sense if you want to

2159
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 4: leave and go win.

2160
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: And look, Dame is a grown man. He can want

2161
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 3: to go wherever he wants to go, right, I just

2162
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 3: wonder why it's only Miami, you know, Like, I think

2163
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 3: culture wise, he's a perfect fit for Miami. He is

2164
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 3: a grinder, he is absolutely relentless. I think he fits

2165
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 3: in great and that might be how he's looking at it.

2166
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm just I wonder why it's

2167
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 3: only Miami, right, Like, he.

2168
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 5: Can want whatever he wants. But does that does that

2169
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 5: seem a little bit strange to you?

2170
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 8: Also?

2171
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously he has friends. I mean I

2172
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 4: know Jimmy Butler and him are really good friends.

2173
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 2: I know that. So you want to go.

2174
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, be in the culture, be in Miami, being the

2175
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 4: you know, in the winning culture that they have, and

2176
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 4: then you have a really good friend there. That makes

2177
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 4: sense from that still point. But yeah, I mean I

2178
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 4: would only I guess I can only land my thoughts

2179
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 4: on that because I can actually see that it's a

2180
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 4: tangible thing for me. But other than that, I wouldn't.

2181
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,679
Speaker 4: I would have no idea.

2182
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 3: And he's tight with Bam too, So yeah, maybe that's it.

2183
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Now.

2184
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 3: I got a question for you, Kerrie, as we welcome

2185
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 3: in Monzie below. Was she in the starter's gate?

2186
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 5: Right?

2187
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 3: Was she more amped up before according to Mancy? Or

2188
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 3: right here right now?

2189
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh it's right now right now. I can't even

2190
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 2: look that way. I'm looking at another way right now.

2191
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 8: Okay, so many things you guys said that I just like,

2192
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 8: I don't even know where to begin. The last segment,

2193
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 8: when we were talking with the Damian Lillard slander that

2194
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 8: I will not accept Carrie, you said, if he goes

2195
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 8: to Miami, I don't even think it really makes them

2196
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 8: like that much better?

2197
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 5: Right, I think you said that.

2198
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 8: But right now you both were like, no, if he

2199
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 8: goes to Miami, he has to win, even though you

2200
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 8: don't think it makes Miami a top contender, But we're

2201
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 8: gonna put that pressure on him. Why is he being

2202
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 8: Why do we have to compare him to things that

2203
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 8: have happened in the past.

2204
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 5: Why can't his story just be different? Because it's literally like.

2205
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 8: Kevin Durant literally left the team, the best team that

2206
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 8: he couldn't bet and won a championship. He's now on

2207
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 8: his twenty seventh team and we're fine with it. Like

2208
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 8: he gets grewed, he gets a little bit. So I

2209
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 8: just I am so annoyed because it's like Damian Lillard

2210
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 8: has put in I don't when was he drafted twenty eleven,

2211
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 8: twelve thirteen?

2212
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 5: Well, I think it was twelve twelve.

2213
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 8: Okay, we're around that, right, So ten years plus that

2214
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 8: he's given everything to this team. I looked up his

2215
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 8: comments to Paul George that was in twenty twenty. Time

2216
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 8: has passed, things have changed, things have changed with him

2217
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 8: and Portland. In twenty twenty when he said that Portland

2218
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 8: was probably like, don't worry, man, We're gonna we're gonna

2219
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:29,680
Speaker 8: surround you.

2220
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 5: We're gonna give you what you want.

2221
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 8: Instead, they literally draft his replacement who doubled down and said,

2222
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 8: I'm gonna wear double zero. Watch me.

2223
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 5: Come on, guys, Okay, does this sound so good? It

2224
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 5: does not sound I wouldn't want to stay there.

2225
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 8: Drafted the guy that didn't replace me, and he said,

2226
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 8: double zero, baby, double zero.

2227
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 3: Lots to unpack here much, I mean wrong, We'll go

2228
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 3: Cliff's notes version here. Okay, First off, Kevin Gardener, Kevin

2229
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 3: Durant going to Golden State initially world class flack.

2230
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 5: The guy caught, yes, nothing but but that's it and nothing.

2231
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 5: That's it now, you guys, he has five championships.

2232
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 8: I know he doesn't have five, but you know what,

2233
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 8: I'm sorry he's gotten the credit now that.

2234
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 3: He Also, he was never the guy that said, you

2235
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 3: guys are clowns for going from team to teams.

2236
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,520
Speaker 5: We're gonna die on this hill. Yeah, right, not embracing

2237
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 5: the grind.

2238
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 3: That that's the whole point. If Cab but if Ky

2239
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 3: did that, why did it? If Paul George, if anybody

2240
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 3: did that, we'd be crushing those guys, just like we're

2241
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 3: looking sideways at Name for doing what he was against.

2242
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 8: Did he not put in the grind for ten years?

2243
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 4: I don't think we're talking about the grind here though,

2244
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 4: I think we've established that he's put on the he's

2245
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 4: embracing sign.

2246
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 5: Okay, so he did it, so he did it right, Okay,

2247
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 5: so why are we.

2248
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 3: That?

2249
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 8: But what's changed the fact that his team did not

2250
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 8: provide what maybe they've been telling him for years and

2251
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,520
Speaker 8: years and years.

2252
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 5: We don't know what's the case with anybody else. I mean,

2253
01:47:59,240 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 5: of course it is.

2254
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 8: But right now, but right now everyone is like all

2255
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 8: up in arms because he is demanding a trade to

2256
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 8: a specific team and for different reasons.

2257
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 5: Your argument is what he said, you, Brian specifically, because

2258
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 5: you you're yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're a good carry.

2259
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 8: You Brian specifically, are are saying because of his comments

2260
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 8: based on what other players have done, that he he

2261
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 8: has to stay on that hill.

2262
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 5: No, you're dying on. You want him to stand on

2263
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 5: and die on that hill. Even he doesn't, things are

2264
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 5: not what he wants anymore.

2265
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 3: Maybe, hey, if he doesn't comment on Paul George to

2266
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 3: him on social problems, he said, you guys are going home,

2267
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 3: and he's like, you guys are clowns, switching teams up

2268
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 3: like you're changing shirts on paraphrasing.

2269
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 5: Yes you are, yeah, you got it.

2270
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, if he doesn't say that no issue whatsoever.

2271
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 3: You know what this is like, this would be like

2272
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 3: contract negotiations. Yes, And if you're saying, like, like whatever

2273
01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 3: your stance is someone who negotiates during the season, I

2274
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 3: just have a big problem with that. You shouldn't do

2275
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 3: that and then you turn around and negotiate during the season,

2276
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 3: You're a hypocrite.

2277
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 5: That's just how it works.

2278
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 8: I just think that you are trying to make this

2279
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 8: black and white, and there's a lot of great because

2280
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 8: there's ten years of history of things that we don't

2281
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 8: know what was said behind closed doors between the Blazers

2282
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 8: and Dame.

2283
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 5: Hey, let's make it a full party. Bo Benson one sent.

2284
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 11: I just want to say that I'm super excited to

2285
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 11: have this conversation again in two years when Giannis is

2286
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 11: doing the same thing Dame's doing.

2287
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 5: Right now, and I won't say anything. If Nis wants

2288
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 5: to go else.

2289
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: The whole loyalty thing.

2290
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 11: Hey, he's still got a couple of years to do

2291
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 11: it too.

2292
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 3: He hasn't blasted anybody, and he want a championship. You

2293
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 3: can go, Dame can go too. It's just it's not

2294
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 3: gonna land right when you're talking smack about other guys

2295
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 3: switching teams.

2296
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 2: It's simple. It's very simple from Brian for sure. It

2297
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 2: is black and white. If you're going to speak on it,

2298
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 2: be it. That's it. That's all I get that.

2299
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 5: Well, that's all you had to say. I thought you

2300
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 5: were gonna jump in and defend me.

2301
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 11: I mean, look, if there's anyone that Damian Lillard can

2302
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 11: like call a weirdo for jumping teams, it's Paul George.

2303
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 11: Because Paul George always insisted that wherever he landed next,

2304
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 11: that's where he always most wanted to be. I still

2305
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 11: remember when he ended up with the Clippers. He's saying, like, oh, yeah,

2306
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 11: I wasn't a Lakers fan. I I never really.

2307
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: I just like Kobe.

2308
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 11: And there's like, I know a lot of people that

2309
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 11: lived in Palmdale, where Paul George is from, that have

2310
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 11: Paul George in their yearbook, where Paul George is wearing

2311
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 11: Lakers stuff everywhere Paul George wanted to be a Laker.

2312
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 11: He just didn't happen. So yeah, he's I understand what

2313
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 11: Dame's saying, but digging it up from you know, three

2314
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 11: years ago, was a little oh.

2315
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 5: Thank you, that seemed like a point for me. Here's

2316
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 5: here's the last thing I'll last.

2317
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 3: Okay, you're no longer Moncey belonged to Okay you for

2318
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 3: this little point.

2319
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 5: Here, you are Paul George. Okay, you are Paul George.

2320
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 5: Paul George. Damian at you softy? Yeah? Are put on

2321
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 5: Instagram like you're a clown?

2322
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, switching teams, not embracing the grind, and now dame

2323
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 3: switching teams.

2324
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 5: What are you, as Paul George thinking right now? I'm

2325
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 5: just gonna tweet at him? What'd you say three years ago?

2326
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 8: I will bring it back up and then I would say,

2327
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 8: carry on, carry on?

2328
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 5: Can I hear you?

2329
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2330
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, Listen, what you're saying is not wrong, Brian.

2331
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 5: I just I don't think it's that black and white.

2332
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 2: That's all.

2333
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 5: Let's leave it at that.

2334
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 8: What do you say, John Ronos, Let's agree to disagree

2335
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 8: and put a pin in this and we'll fight next week.

2336
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it again.

2337
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 4: Well, I'll be the one to say I'm to kind

2338
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 4: of button this up. You know, my guy didn't run

2339
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 4: run from the grind. Ever, he played twenty one years

2340
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 4: to the same team and the teams that he was

2341
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 4: supposed to win on and they didn't win. He still

2342
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,719
Speaker 4: stayed there and there was rumors of him being almost

2343
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 4: traded to the Lakers, and he was like, nope, I'm

2344
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 4: staying here. I'm going to take a pay cut. And

2345
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 4: guys it done with the team that was really past

2346
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 4: their prime and got it done. So I'm going to

2347
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 4: applaud him.

2348
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I it was that too against Lebron's

2349
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 3: first year with the Heat, and.

2350
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 4: Uh, it was so good. I went to game I

2351
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 4: went to Game three in Dallas that year. I took

2352
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 4: my dad, so it was actually a really good experience

2353
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 4: for me and I was I mean, me and Dirk

2354
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 4: are friends and Jason Terry, so to have that was

2355
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 4: it was.

2356
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 3: And your boys lost, right, they were down to one

2357
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 3: in this series.

2358
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 2: Yes, they lost Game three. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I.

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Speaker 12: Know I'm supposed to give an imday, We're supposed to

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01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 12: move on, but I I am sorry.

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01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 5: So my boyfriend come.

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01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 8: In and clutch right now listening to this sent me

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01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 8: a picture of an article with a picture of Kevin

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 8: Durant's tweet from twenty ten ten just for my argument.

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01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 5: Thanks, thanks bou.

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01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 8: This is what Kevin Durant said in twenty ten, this

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01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 8: is around the time I assume when maybe Lebron went

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01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 8: to the Heat.

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01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 12: I assumed this is maybe around that time. No, right, no,

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 12: that's to twenty ten. Wait yeah, okay, okay, Kevin Durant.

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01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 12: Now everybody want to play for the Heat and the Lakers.

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01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,599
Speaker 12: Let's go back to being competitive and going at these people.

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01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 5: No he didn't, right here, Durant.

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01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 8: Ah, So thank you, Thank you.

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01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 14: To the boyfriend for listening and sending me these Thank you.

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 5: You're trying to cancel something from twenty twenty.

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01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 2: You can't go back to twenty six.

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01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 5: The point is here, we are. Everybody has said things

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01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 5: and done things like this. That is the point.

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01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 3: But the point with KD is he joined a seventy

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01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 3: three win. Yeah, beat him, so yeah.

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01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 5: You know KAD was the worst. That is the worst.

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01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 14: But people change their minds on what they say. Thanks, okay,

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01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,799
Speaker 14: twenty ten, okay, let's talk about let's talk about baseball,

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01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 14: real quick, real quick. Orioles have one five in a row.

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01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 14: They beat the Twins, Cubs beat the Yankees. So Yankees

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01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 14: fired their hitting coach because they think that's going to

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01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 14: solve the problem. Victories for the Reds, the Giants.

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 8: The Pirates defeated the Diamondbacks today forty two, So now

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01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 8: the Dodgers are technically in first place in the NL West,

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 8: even though it's not really. They're kind of tied. It's

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 8: just the Dodgers have one less loss. The Padres took

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01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 8: down the Mets six to four, Manny Machada responsible for

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01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 8: five of those runs. Earlier today, the Nationals they beat

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01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 8: the Rangers. The Rangers are three and seven in their

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01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 8: last ten games. No buenos, but victory for the Royals,

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01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 8: the Marlins, the Brewers, the Rays. They finally snapped their

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01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 8: seven game losing streak and they beat the Braves. And

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01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 8: the Blue Jays came back from behind to beat the Tigers,

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01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 8: Mariners one, and the Cardinals one. Yay for you, Brian.

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01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 8: A little Wimbledon, you guys were talking about it. Novak

2402
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 8: djokovic play has been officially suspended.

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01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:31,480
Speaker 5: Novak Djokovic won his first two sets.

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01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 8: In a tie break, so he's gonna continue his fourth

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01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 8: round match tomorrow. There's only one American man left standing

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 8: out Wimbledon. It's Chris Eubanks. None of us know anything

2407
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 8: about him, but he is kicking butt and taking names.

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 5: He is gonna face Step finals system. I don't know

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01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 5: how to say it.

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01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 8: That one that went exactly in the fourth round tomorrow.

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01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 8: But he is the last man standing. But we got

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01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 8: a couple of ladies an American that are still standing.

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01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 8: Jess Pagoula, she dominated her fourth round match today. But

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01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 8: the number one seed EGA is Vatek. She's still in it.

2415
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 8: She's also onto the next round at Wimbledon. More champagne

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01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 8: popping like you were talking about. And I think I

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01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 8: got every all right. The John Deer Classic. It was

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01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 8: in the end Stepstrauca who won the John Dear Classic. Guys, again,

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01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 8: not a busy season in sports, yet, what a busy

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01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 8: Sunday busy. I am hot and sweaty from this dame talk.

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01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 8: I am very upset about it. But I think I win.

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01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 8: Back to you, guys, you wind, you don't raise your

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01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 8: own hand in the you know.

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01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I do, yes, I do.

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01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 8: If that guy thinks that that other tennis player won

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01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 8: and she didn't, I win too.

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01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 5: Okay, I can tell myself I.

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01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 4: Won fair enough, Bryan. She's holding her left hand up

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01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 4: with her right hand right.

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01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what she's doing. That's right, we close

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 2: it down. We'll cover it up next.

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01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 3: Is this the craziest of the crazy predictions? That's on

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01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 3: the way. I'm Brian though, he's Carry Rhodes. Keep it

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01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 3: locked right here on Fox Sports Radio two and two. Now, Wow,

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 3: Schurzer Is said, here's the pitch, and man, he gets a.

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01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 15: Hanging breaking ball, hits it a ton deep to left field,

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01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 15: way back, good to go, second level of balconies in

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01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 15: the Western metal building, and a three run homer in

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01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 15: the bottom of the first for Manny Machado.

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01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm Brian, No, he's Carrie Rhodes here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: They add the call six to two win for the

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01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 3: Padres as they beat the Mets. Man Carrie, I was

2449
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 3: just telling the guys I shouldn't tell you all my

2450
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 3: bad beat parlay stories. I had the Diamondbacks earlier. This

2451
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 3: week beating the Mets. Mets are down to their final strike.

2452
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 3: They hit a solo shot to tie the game. They

2453
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 3: go on, they score another run, they win the game.

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 3: They were down to their final strike.

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01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Carry roads, I know, and I know, Gosh, we talked

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 2: about this.

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01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 4: That last leg, man, that last leg is very detrimental

2458
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 4: to a lot of people's heals.

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01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Years after my life, years off my life.

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 3: Man, how about this Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback Carlton Davis.

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01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 3: I can't get enough of these quotes over here. Okay,

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01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 3: he's talking tough. No more Tom Brady, Right, You've got

2463
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask as your two headed quarterback monster.

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01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 3: He says, We're about to do it to them. Talking

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01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 3: about anybody overlooking Tampa, anybody who feels we've lost Tom

2466
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 3: and lost something is going to be in for a

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01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 3: rude awakening, a rude awakening. We're going to wreck bleep

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01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 3: like wreck bleep interceptions, turnovers, plays will be made. I

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01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 3: will say, plays will be made. And this is the

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01:57:57,520 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 3: kicker and r F Indivision is worse than what it

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01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 3: was before. So we run through the division, get to

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01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 3: the playoffs, run through the playoffs, and it's the super Bowl.

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01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh well, yeah, he threw the Super Bowl

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01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 4: in there as well. I thought he was just talking

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01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 4: about their team being competitive. No, no, he.

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01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 3: Just kind of slyly through in uh the Super Bowl

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01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 3: as well, Carrien.

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01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 4: He was like the Michael Jordan quote, the ceiling is

2479
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 4: the roof. Yeah, that's like the deal. Yeah that's yeah,

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01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 4: that's that's intense.

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01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 2: Hey man, there are surprises in the NFL every year.

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01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 2: Won't one of them? No, absolutely, not.

2483
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 3: Tampa bayon anywhere in the same sentence as Super Bowl

2484
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. Man, Carrie, enjoyed it, Bud, always great.

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01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 3: Hanging with you, Brian, amazing, love it man, always good stuff. Hey,

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01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 3: keep it locked right here, FSR. We'll catch you soon.