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Yeah, there we. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Go, got it figured out with that RG three, Robert 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Griffin the third is now joining us live. Well, there's 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: so many things, you know, in the blowout. People often 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: think you can't take much from it, but I mean, 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: we have a young Drake May, we have a new 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: England staff that had a very conservative game plan, and 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: then there's obviously the Donald component through the entire playoff run. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: He didn't have a turnover. 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Give me your thought to somebody who's played the position, 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: and it's you know, listen, He's bounced around the league, 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot of teammates, a lot of coordinators, sometimes chaos. 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: What jumps out to you? How do you wrap a 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: bowl around Sam Donald? The Super Bowl winning his career. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think Sam Donald has one of 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: the greatest comeback stories in NFL history when you look 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: at what he's been through, throwing sixty three touchdowns and 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: a spark six years in the league, playing for you know, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: three different teams. Then he comes into his last two 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: and he throws sixty touchdowns with the Vikings and also 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: with the Seahawks. I think what he's been able to 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: pull off there a few people can do. To go 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: from the third pick, get Benson or get benched in Carolina, 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: go become a backup in San Francisco, and then get 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: a starting gig in Minnesota and really take advantage of it. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: You saw what happened to Minnesota when he left. So 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: I just think Sam Donald, the way he handled the 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: game was very unique because he wasn't very efficient and 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: it's not like he played lights out. But I think 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: this game kind of solidified for me the whole debate 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 4: around whether you take the points you go forward on 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: fourth down. Every single time Seattle took the points, and 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: in big time matchups like the Super Bowl, when everyone's 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: really really nervous, you see points on that board, it 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: changes the outcome of everything. The defense plays with more energy, 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: and I think that Seahawks defense, you know, they're not 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: getting this type of praise, but I think they're probably 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: one of the best defense of all time. 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, analytics are funny. 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: There was a moment Seattle could have gone forward at 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: about the forty and they punted it. And my take was, 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: my take was New England needed a break. It could 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: be a block, it could be a block punt, it 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: could be a they needed a break. And it's like, yeah, 54 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: their defense was playing well, why give them a break? 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Why get stuffed and give them great field position they've so, 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: I mean that's a cry. I don't know what analytics said, 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: but my take is when offenses need help, don't help them. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: And Seattle's like, we're just gonna keep kicking field goals 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: and if we beat you nine nothing, we're gonna live 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: with it. 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: Do you look when you look at Drake May. 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: I think Chris Collins were set it at halftime, and 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to say it, but he. 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Kind of was. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: He kind of came out and just said, Drake May's 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: not he's not ready for this. 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you're watching in a stadium, what did you see? 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Drake May. This is my biggest critique 69 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: of him for the entire game, and it was really 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: for the entire playoffs. You know, he'd had a bunch 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: of scrambles in the in the postseason, I think he 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: led the NFL in scrambled yardage. But when his team 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: needed him to truly take over the game, I feel 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: like he passed the ball so and I say that 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: to say, you know, I'm not a big Lebron hater, 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: but got some people say, hey, Lebron, in big moments, 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: he passes the ball to someone else to shoot it 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: because he doesn't want to take the shot. And I 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: feel like in those moments, you have to be like Jordan. 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: When things get bad, you have to get great. And 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: Drake May too many times was sitting in the pocket, 82 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: in my opinion, when when he knew he had free runners, 83 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: when he knew his offensive line was a bunch of 84 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: traffic comes out there and they couldn't block a soul 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: when he knew that. Don't even get me started on 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: Will Campbell left tackle. I mean, Lord, have mercy. Everybody 87 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: was trying to swipe their car to that dining hall 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: because everybody was eating. When they went against him. So 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: I think in that moment, and when you're the quarterback 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: and you have the athletic ability that Drake May does possess, 91 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: you have to say, all right, my clock has to 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: speed up a little bit. I'm not going to get 93 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: jittery in the pocket. But what I am going to 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: do is I'm going to get out here. And I've 95 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: said it multiple times, get jiggy with it. Listen, man, 96 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: if you guys can't block him, you got to help 97 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: him block them. That'll You don't know how many times 98 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: in my career my offensive lineman came to me and said, oh, 99 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: thank you Jesus for making that guy miss because I 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 4: couldn't block him. But it gave me a little bit 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: of confidence to know that you're going to make my 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: wrongs right a couple times a game. To give me 103 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 4: the confidence to shoot my hands and know that I 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: can go out there and do it. That was probably 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: the most disappointing thing for me from Drake May, aside 106 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: from the fact that they got to fix the old 107 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: line and they need more primetime players at wide receiver. 108 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: Because I think you saw it, Colin, when you get 109 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: into those games, it's all about the Jimmy's and the Joe's, 110 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: not just the x's and o's and the Patriotscott beat 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: in both regards. 112 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the do you worry at all. 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: The Clint Kubiak is leaving and may take a couple 114 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: of coaches with him. I mean, Sam's had a lot 115 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: of success with two different teams. Yeah, you know, it 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: was interesting. Matt Hasselback came on earlier and he goes, 117 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I think they'll keep Kenneth Walker because you're gonna have 118 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: so much movement on the staff. John Snyder's gonna be like, 119 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep that, even though the running back that 120 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: it's not a pass catcher, not a great blocker's he's continuity. 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: Do you worry about Kubiak leaving? 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you always worry about the coordinator leaving because they 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: create a rapport with the players that they know how 124 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: to call the plays. And that's what a lot of 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: people you know at home, and even some obviously some 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: former players that I'm here and talking today don't realize, 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: is the plays matter. But when they get called, how 128 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: they get called, how the coordinator knows the quarterback's temperament, 129 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: what he needs in those moments. All those things matter. 130 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: I think we see that in Philly with Jalen Hurts 131 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: and how many coordinators he's had. The guys that have 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: that have called the game's best for him have the 133 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: best feel for that QB. So I think they should 134 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: keep Kenneth Walker the third. I know they're gonna you know, 135 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: they're gonna get Zach Scharbernay back. That's a great one 136 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: two punch. And really the concern for me isn't as 137 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: much Kubiak, but it's like, what does Cooper Cup do 138 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: because now he's a two time Super Bowl champ, he's 139 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: a Offensive Player of the Year, Super Bowl MVP. Does 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: he walk away? Does he does he ride off into 141 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: the sunset? Because I don't think people really give him 142 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: credit because he didn't have the season that Jackson Smith 143 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: and Jig had. But who was the number one guy 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: they went to as soon as Jackson Smith and Jig 145 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: but went out. It was Cooper Cup. He's a big 146 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: reason why that they won that Super Bowl. So I'm 147 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: I am a concern about the coordinator, but I think 148 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: that they're gonna do what they have to do defensively 149 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: to make sure they keep a lot of that defense 150 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: and then they can retool through the draft on offense. 151 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Do you worry that Seattle and they draft so well, 152 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: they do have cap space, which is just frightening because 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a whole I mean, it's really and 154 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: it's like the coach is just going into his prime. 155 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Darnold's now right in the thick of his prime. Yeah, 156 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: but you don't necessarily want to bring the entire band back. 157 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: Is there anything you tweak? 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I know it's a loaded question, but when you look 159 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: at Seattle, like I said earlier, Rashid Shaheed is wonderful, 160 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't pay him a fortune because he I 161 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: think they went and got him because they felt like 162 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: they were a Super Bowl team and just needed a 163 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: little icing on a great cake. Any other moves Seattle 164 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: could do to you or are you just gonna say, listen, 165 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: we're loaded, bring back Walker, We're good. 166 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: No. 167 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: I always think that teams they make that mistake when 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: they win the previous year. What you have to realize 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: is now that every team that saw you is coming 170 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: back and they're gearing their team to beat you because 171 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: you're now the standard. So I agree, Rashid Shaheed was 172 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: a great addition for them, especially on special teams the 173 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: way that they went about that. But if you think 174 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: about the dynasties of the Patriots and the Chiefs, every 175 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: single year they tried to add a dynamic wide receiver, 176 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: whether it be with speed or size, and they tried 177 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: to add another dynamic running back. I think that, to me, 178 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: is what Seattle has to do because I don't see 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: Sam Donald playing the way he played in the regular 180 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: season this past year again. And I mean that from 181 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: the negative sense, like he led the league in turnovers. 182 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to do that, But I 183 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: think they should try to add another dynamic wide out. 184 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: If you can get Rashid Shaheed back without you having 185 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: to pay out the wazoo and break the bank for him, 186 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: I would do it. I would try to bring all 187 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: those guys back but still add young pieces through the draft. 188 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: And to me that this team is there set up 189 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: to be the dynasty that we thought the Seahawks were 190 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: going to be when they had the lesion of Boom, 191 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: So I think that's a very positive firm. Like you 192 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: said that cap space is scary. 193 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots, Burrow, probably Lamar Mahomes would all 194 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. We've got an offensive coach with Josh Allen. 195 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's getting his tackles back. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence 196 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: has got a guide speed dialing up great plays. AFC 197 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: quarterback play is not going anywhere. I like a lot 198 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: of what New England's doing. But did you watch Drake 199 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: May Did you come away saying, you know he may 200 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: not make We're not going to get both these teams 201 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: back next year. And a lot of those AFC top 202 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks either didn't have old lines, didn't have their health. 203 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think New England repeats and can 204 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: get back to this thing? 205 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: I think there's two things that's going to be stacked 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: against New England. Now, they're going to have one of 207 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: the toughest schedules in the NFL because of because of 208 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: the way that they finished. If I was a betting man, 209 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: that the team that I would bet on to get 210 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: back would be Seattle, not the Patriots for all the 211 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: reasons that you just mentioned. But I also think they're 212 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: going to have to go into next year and whatever 213 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: game plan the had going to this one, So that 214 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: bad boy in the trash because they were playing so conservative, 215 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 4: made it made me feel, honestly, Colin like like there 216 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: would there was something wrong with Drake may Like, was 217 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: it his shoulder? Was there something that they didn't want 218 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: to put him in harmswere he didn't want to put 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: himself in harm's way? And I think that's part of 220 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: why I say there's more moves that Patriots have to 221 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: make at wide receiver and even at running back. I 222 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: love Traveon Henderson, I love ramondre Stevenson, but they couldn't 223 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 4: run the football because their offensive line. 224 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: Was so bad. 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: So if I'm the Patriots, I go into this, say 226 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: what player can I go get either in the draft 227 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: of free agency that is going to naturally make me 228 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: a more aggressive play caller. We saw that now, Randy 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: Mosses don't grow on trees, Colin, Right, Hell, there's only 230 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: been one. He's probably the most remarkable receiver we've ever seen. 231 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: But you saw how much more aggressive McDaniel's got when 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: he got Randy and that all offense with Tom Brady. 233 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: So I think they got to go try to find 234 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 4: themselves a receiver that they feel like they can be 235 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: aggressive with in Drake ma because he was the best 236 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 4: deep ball throw in the league this past year can 237 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: really let that thing hunh. 238 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: You know it's always and I rely on guys like 239 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: you to kind of decipher this. You know, when you 240 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: see a great defensive coordinator like offense, I can see it, Robert. 241 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: I can watch an offense with Mike McDaniel and McVeigh 242 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: and go, oh my god, multiple sets, a lot of movement. 243 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I can see offensive efficiency in coaching Ben Johnson when 244 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: he was a coordinator in Detroit. 245 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: For three years. 246 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this guy is a he is clever. 247 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, defense is different. So Mike McDonald is doing 248 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: something that Stafford could figure out but nobody else in 249 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: the league could. My part of it is Stafford's great 250 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: and they employ a lot of tight ends. I think 251 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: the way to beat Seattle's tight ends. That's why I 252 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that didn't target Hunter Henry More. But what 253 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: does Mike McDonald do that you see watching and go, oh, okay, 254 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: that's different. 255 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's the little colin. First, I'll say, tight 256 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: ends get us all right. Tight ends can beat anybody 257 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: in the world, whether it's on or off the field. 258 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 4: So now figure back and off of your point, though 259 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: I was with Mike McDonald in Baltimore, So when he 260 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: was there. The thing that I've tried to explain to 261 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: people over the past two weeks is why do they 262 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: always get free rushers to the quarterback. Well, if you 263 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: have a bad offensive line, they're going to pressure you. 264 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: But even if you don't have a bad offensive line, 265 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 4: they've found ways to get pressure. And it's because at 266 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage they allow their safeties and their 267 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: linebackers and their outside edge rushers to determine who is 268 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: blitzing based off the turn of the center and based 269 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: off the call point. How do I know this, Well, 270 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: my job was to break down protections in Baltimore. My 271 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 4: job was to make sure that we were directed the 272 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: right way and what's the best way to pick up 273 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: this blitz. That was my responsibility as a veteran QB, 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: helping the young guy and Lamar Jack and you know, 275 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: be prepared for it for every single week. So we 276 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: go into practice and I'm going against Mike McDonald all 277 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 4: training camp, all offseason. I'm making the mic points and 278 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: they're changing them at the line of scrimmage and they're 279 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: not they're non verbal changes. So it's not like you 280 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: could say, all right, Mike forty three and then you 281 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: hear him say, hey, you're blitzing, I'm going to drop. 282 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: They just do it automatically, and that's what makes this 283 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: defense so difficult to defend because you always feel like 284 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: they're you're playing catch up, you're playing a catch technique 285 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: on the backside where they're manning up there or they're 286 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: zoning out, and they're not afraid to put a big 287 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: guy on a small receiver because they know they're going 288 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: to have a free runner at the quarterback. And that's 289 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: the genius in my opinion of Mike McDonald. He trusts 290 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: his players so much you'd have to be a smart player, 291 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: but he's always going to give them opportunities to get sacks. 292 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: That's why they got Riley Mills in the middle of defense, 293 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: a guy who played four games in the regular season. 294 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: And had no sacks. 295 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: He got a sack against this offensive line and he 296 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: wasn't a free runner. But it's just like it's the 297 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: genius of him. I'm very happy for him, and I'm 298 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: glad that now he can go spend more than thirty 299 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: minutes with his kid. 300 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: So Am I hosted Out of Pocket RG three podcast, 301 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: Love Having You on the show. Good seeing you at 302 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: our party the other night in the Bay Area and talk. 303 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: Soon appreciate your colum party was phenomenal. 304 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: What wasn't bad. I'm gonna be honest about that. Pretty good, 305 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, Jmac. Next year, you know, maybe we'll give 306 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: you an invite. The next year is the parties in 307 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. 308 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: I got the invite. 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I 342 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 5: just don't know where to send him. Only seventeen point 343 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: nine mili in dead cap money, Tua has three years remaining. 344 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you send him somewhere, they've got nice 345 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: offensive pieces, they score points. 346 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: What do you have to replace them. 347 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: Okay, if we're talking logically, you and I know Tua 348 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 5: can't play cold weather, right, He's just not a cold 349 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: weather quarter Brian. You got to find a warm weather 350 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: team or a dome team. So Minnesota is in a 351 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: dome in that division. 352 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy can't stay healthy. I want Tua. 353 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: Well that's the thing, JJ McCarthy. They're looking for a veteran. 354 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Is Tua enough of veteran Rodgers to the Vikings? Oh? 355 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: Please, what do you mean please? 356 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: He's so toxic man, No, he's not. 357 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: He wasn't toxic in Pittsburgh. 358 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: Well that's because he had the job. Now if he 359 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: comes in as the backup to JJ. 360 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: He's not going to back up. 361 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: Actually, that's the problem. They put all their eggs in 362 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 5: the JJ baskin. So any anyways, like what about Kyler Murray? 363 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: Where could he possibly land? And let's just stop with 364 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 5: his Jets nonsense. That is a disaster waiting to happen. 365 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: The Jets want to draft high in twenty seven, so. 366 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: Forget I think the Jets should spend a fourth Oh. 367 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, great, GMing by you there. But there's just not 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 5: a lot of teams that would be. 369 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: Wouldn't take Kyler Murray here. 370 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: It's no. 371 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of talent. I think 372 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's throw is a. 373 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 5: Great deep ball. That's my favorite line of yours on 374 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. Does he do anything else good besides just 375 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 5: sling that lefty mass? 376 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Very elusive? 377 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, look at that eighty seven starts, no playoff wins, 378 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: only has one playoff appearance. Herbert's Atlas made the playoffs 379 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: three times. I just don't see where Kyler's future is. 380 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: Maybe Arizona just has to stick with him. A new 381 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: coach is he gonna want him? It's it's a weird spot, Colin, 382 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: for both these two quarterbacks. I just I don't see 383 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 5: the team's not going to kick the tires on these guys. 384 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: Right, you're incentiveized as plan they're paying Deshaun Watson's right. Yeah, 385 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Saduer the pro bowler. 386 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: Should you're standing, Let's move on after the reference. Let's 387 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 5: go to Cliff Kingsbury. You're a little lower on him 388 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: than I am. I like Kingsbury. Interesting note over the weekend, 389 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury joined the Rams coaching staff period. Colin, there 390 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: was no announcement about what his role would be. 391 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: That's true. 392 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: What do you think that means? Can you check in 393 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 5: with your RAMS sources and fun well, is he gonna 394 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 5: be the OC because he ain't gonna call players? 395 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: That's the advantage of Stan Kronkey in Great Revenue is 396 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: they'll just bring guys on the staff that the Bengals 397 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: aren't going to do that, and the cheap skates in 398 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: this league aren't going to do that. But they'll bring 399 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury on the staff and help serve a role. 400 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: And that's why ownership matters in this lord that they 401 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: can do stuff like that. 402 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 5: The problem is is Kingsbury went from being the bell 403 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: of the ball with j Daniels NFC Championship. 404 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: He had problems with a GM. 405 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 5: Okay, so is he He's not gonna call plays on 406 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 5: the Rams. This is a massive step backwards. Something I'm 407 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: missing something here. 408 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: Now. 409 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: I know Michael Floord left the Rams as the OC 410 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 5: to go to the Cardinals. 411 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Kingsbury may not initially call plays. There may be an 412 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: opportunity here for McVeigh to slowly bring him along. 413 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: Maybe he's a walk around guy and offer input. Is 414 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 5: that even a role? With. 415 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean Stafford McVeigh and Stafford, let's be honest, they've 416 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: got a real symmetry. 417 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: Do you need to bring in a new guy? 418 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean mcvay's calling stuff and Stafford can call his 419 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: own and I don't worry about play calling offensively for. 420 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: Those interesting Someone just said in my ear one of 421 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 5: the smart producers, did they hire Kingsbury to keep him 422 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: away from the Seahawks who are losing Koobiac as their OC? 423 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: That is out it darnold. 424 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: That's good. I wish I should have never given them credit. 425 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: I should have just stolen that one his money. That's good. 426 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 5: Good Sam Donald plus Kingsbury would be awesome in Seattle. 427 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: So they they blocked the Seahawks from getting maybe the 428 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: best OC on the market in Kingsbury to just hang 429 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: out in La go hit up the clubs and the 430 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: bars with with his buddy Sean McVay. 431 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: You married with kids, would just stop saying he's. 432 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 5: Very ain't married. He's a wingman right now, Nick wingman 433 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 5: for McVeigh. 434 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: God give me. 435 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 5: Speculations. Fun anyways, final story, Colin, Oh boy, you know 436 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: the staff came to me and ohay, we got one 437 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: for you. Chargers. They hired a new guy as their 438 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 5: passing game coordinator. It's Adam Gaze. Yes, that Adam Gaze, 439 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 5: who didn't quite thrive with Sam Donald with the Jets. 440 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: I think this is the first time we've ever announced 441 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 5: a passing game coordinator higher in herdline news or maybe 442 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: on the show. It's just so you could take some 443 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: shots at the Jets. Oh really, you don't. 444 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: Gaze has bounced around, but he hasn't had an official title, 445 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and here we go. 446 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: I'm already was cutting hair in Long Island this past year. 447 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: I don't I honestly, I don't. 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 3: Know where he's been. 449 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 5: Nobody hired him after that Jets, I don't know where 450 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 5: he went exactly. He's out of the league and now 451 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 5: Harball throws him a lifeline. 452 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, it's it's uh geez, here we. 453 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: Go with that, with the introductory front, all the cheats, 454 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: a little awkward here whatever. I tried to write that 455 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: off as though he's nervous. I'll never forget Peyton Manning 456 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: was the one who told the Jets to go hire. 457 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: I know Johnson, That's why I That's why I bought 458 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: in him. Jets have kind of a head coaching hire problem. 459 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: Well maybe if they hit me up and we're like, 460 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: J Mack, what do you think they might straighten things out? 461 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: Well, like Jimmy haslum drafted Johnny Manzel because he listened 462 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: to a fan. 463 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: How'd that work out. 464 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: I'm not a fan, sir, I'm a media member, card 465 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 5: carrying media member. 466 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: They're not in good stead right now in America. People 467 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: don't like the media. 468 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: J J. 469 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: Mas. 470 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. 471 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know yesterday. 472 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Years and years ago, I went to I took my 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: son to a WWE event. 474 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: He had a blast. 475 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: He'd never been and I said, you got to go 476 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: to one in your life. Yeah, So it was it 477 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: so fine. And I took my son to a WWE 478 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: event and he I mean and I said, Jackson, you 479 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: got to lean into it, like just boo and he 480 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: was just up there. 481 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 3: It was great. We had an absolutely laugh out loud fun. 482 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Time booing them and you know, John Cena, you stink 483 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: And it was great. And my son about halfway through goes, hey, Dad, 484 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: there's bad bunny. 485 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't even know what that means. 486 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: And so he's like he's very very popular. You know, 487 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: it's it's out of my demo. I'm like, oh, okay, great. 488 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think anything of it, and then I heard 489 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: he was coming to the super Bowl. So I don't 490 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: really know anything about Bad Bunny. I would say this, 491 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: he's not it's more of a vibe thing than a 492 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: singing thing. Like I didn't listen to his voice and 493 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: go whoa, my oh, it's unbelievable. It was kind of 494 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: a he's kind of a vibe guy, right, Like I 495 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't know like other people were singing. 496 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: It was. 497 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: It was like a broad play. It wasn't a singing thing. 498 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: So is that normal or does he have some great 499 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: voice because it just felt like I had no idea 500 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: what to expect. And my take was usually they go 501 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: get like a great singer, a band, or you know, 502 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: it used. 503 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: To it's kind of boring. Though I think Bad Bunny's 504 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: performance was incredible. I enjoyed it. 505 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: It was like a story. It makes a twenty minute 506 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: story here. I was cool. Yeah, I like that. 507 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people, you know, this country very divisive, very. 508 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 5: Really is that happening in the divided countries? At halftime, 509 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: I went and ate. 510 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: We were all we went and ate and we were 511 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: talking about the game and if Sam Darnold needed chip 512 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: blocks to get better pass protection. I don't really watch. 513 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I watch it, but I generally like to 514 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: watch with only two or three. I don't watch by myself, 515 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: but I like to watch in small groups because I 516 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: don't want you to talk to me during the game, 517 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: and so at halftime is my time to break down 518 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: analytically the game. 519 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: And I was watching much to break down my friend. 520 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: The Patriots had fifty one yards of offense. 521 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 522 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 5: Second fewest yards ever in a Super Bowl in the 523 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 5: first half, And the fewest was the Chiefs last year 524 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: with twenty three. I'm telling you this whole defensive shift 525 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 5: in the league, it's a thing. Well, by the way, 526 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: what happened to the Chiefs last year? O line issues? 527 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: What happened to the Patriots this year? O line issues? 528 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: What happens is we have more strong, twitchy, fast athletes 529 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 5: than ever before in all our sports, and some play offense, 530 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: some play defense. What has happened? And I'm a I'll 531 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 5: die on this hill. One of the issues in the 532 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: NFL is the deterioration of practice is that you can't 533 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 5: hit in practice as much anymore. The new CBA and 534 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 5: the one unit it's hurt is O line because O 535 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: lines are chemistry units. 536 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: You know a lot of. 537 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: Times the defensive line Max Crosby's out there doing his 538 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: thing maybe and he is Russian. You don't have to 539 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: be a string playing together. Even though all football is 540 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: complimentary football, but a line play is determining outcomes and 541 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: it stinks everywhere. And the reason stinks is a lot 542 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: of these college teams are spreading it out. There's not 543 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of road grading Michigan football. Like like like 544 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Miami's offensive line this year was power. They'll run the football, 545 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: they'll get big ten oh lines, Iowa was Michigan. They 546 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: it's physical, they're not big twelve. Spread it out. And 547 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: the second thing is in the NFL, you can't hit anymore. 548 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Offensive lines need more practice time. 549 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: They have regrets. 550 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: I never talked old lines ever talking football, and then 551 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: like eight ten years ago, it's like they're getting bad. 552 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if I say to you, good. 553 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: Old line, you can name them right off the top 554 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: of your head because they're so feel like Denver, you know, 555 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: oh that's a good Philadelphia. 556 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: You can Detroit was not many fated. 557 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Detroit in the middle. I think this draft, there's 558 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 5: like four or five that should go in the first 559 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: very good. Here's the thing, like, it's a lot of 560 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: good teams that need these tackles, and they're drafting later. 561 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: You need depth. 562 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 5: As the Charger showed, Chargers are gonna have two guys 563 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: coming back. I would get another if I'm the Chargers. 564 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: If I was the Chargers my first pick and I 565 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: move up to do it, I would get another tackle. 566 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: The kid from Miami, you can move inside or outside. 567 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: He's gonna go top ten. 568 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: He's goodna get top ten. 569 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: What about the wide receiver to the Chargers with McDaniel 570 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 5: and no Ladd mcconky, Quinton Johnson. 571 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: I think Trey Harris, Quinton Johnson, Lad McConkie, JSN and 572 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: that I would like, I would like another tight end 573 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: and then but you're on a tight end kick these. 574 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: Tight end. 575 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: New England didn't throw to Hunter Henry. I just could 576 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: not figure it out. Like, guys, you're not gonna do 577 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: the I mean, the Seattle's corners and safeties are too good. 578 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna riddle them. Stefan Diggs was not going 579 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: to have I don't even know what his over under was. 580 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: He was not gonna have a big game. They just 581 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: took him out of the game. 582 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 583 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a em Pacific on Fox Sports 584 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Tomorrow. 585 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna do six up and six Downs. Six NFL 586 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: teams I think will be noticeably better next year. Six 587 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: teams that I think fall off. We know there's at 588 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: least four new playoff teams in the NFL every year. Listen, 589 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: Seattle's up obviously a great team, and the two best 590 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: teams in football at the end of the year were 591 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams. You gotta feel pretty good about yourself if 592 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: you're the Chicago Bears, because the Rams basically played a 593 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: perfect game and you took them to overtime. In Chicago 594 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Bears fan this morning, I feel really good about it, 595 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: really good about the Chicago Bears. But in New England, 596 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck was on earlier. I didn't like their game plan. 597 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: I thought it was too conservative. I think there is 598 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: a way to attack Seattle, and they didn't do it. 599 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: And here was Matt Hasselback. 600 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 7: We need to really start talking about this defense with 601 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 7: the great defenses of all time, like the great defense, 602 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 7: and we don't. I'm not sure why we need to. 603 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 7: You're playing if you're mismatched with a great defense of 604 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 7: a historic of of a historic nature, you got to 605 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 7: pull out the trick plays, man like. 606 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: You got to. 607 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: You gotta steal one. 608 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 7: You got to manufacture something exotic. 609 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't very conservative. I thought they're opening 610 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: series couple of swing passes, get the ball out. But 611 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: I mean when you go into a game and you know, 612 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: and New England did know, when you know the left 613 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: side of your offensive line is gonna get worked, you 614 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: got to roll that pocket right. 615 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: You got to do three step tight end backs and 616 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: and the other thing. 617 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: I liked the defensive game plan by New England, which 618 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: was be hyper aggressive jump routes, try to speed Sam 619 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: Darnald into a mistake. Now, Sam had a great playoff run. 620 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: It's remarkable. Donald five touchdowns, seven hundred yards, no turnovers, 621 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: one hundred passer rating. 622 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 5: He had it. 623 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: And again you're you're talking to Patriots, deve the Rams defense. 624 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean New England and Drake May's offense faced very 625 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: good defenses in the AFC playoffs and the Super Bowl 626 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: and didn't and looked awful. 627 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's not like Donald. 628 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: Faced cupcakes in the NFC playoffs and New England. It's 629 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: not like they didn't play great defenses. New England's got 630 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: a great defense. Rams have a great defense. Sam Darnold 631 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: never had a turnover. So, I mean, I know this 632 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: is hard for people the stomach, but right now, Donald's 633 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Drake May because he can play 634 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: at a faster pace and not make the mistakes and 635 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Drake was just turnover prone. Yes, they played good defenses, 636 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: so did Donald. So it's not like Donald hasn't played. 637 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: If you just take out one team, the Rams over 638 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, Donald's numbers are insane, They're 639 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: already excellent. But Drake held on to the ball, and 640 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times quarterbacks hold on to 641 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the ball because they don't know what they're seeing. They 642 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: don't know what they're seeing. Forget the why they don't 643 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: know what they're seeing. That right, there's a bad pick. 644 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: So I don't think I think New England will address 645 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: its offensive line, but I think Kansas City is better 646 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: next year. Baltimore's better next year, Buffalo could be better, 647 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Cincinnati could be better. The Chargers. J McK and I 648 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: are on this. I think the Chargers is going to 649 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: make a jump next year. 650 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: I think it's. 651 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Amazing they got to the playoffs. But Drake may just 652 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: he's got a way to go. And this is Matt Hasselbeck. 653 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: Earlier, he did not look healthy to me. 654 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: You know, that was one thing, you know, like he 655 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 7: looked he looked okay, he looked good, pretty good, you know, 656 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 7: in terms. 657 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: Of his fastball and stuff like that. 658 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 7: He had some great throws, but I just didn't think 659 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 7: he was looking He looked like he was in that like, hey, 660 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 7: I'm feeling my best. 661 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: I don't think that. 662 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 7: I also think that pass protection was a real issue 663 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 7: early on, it was a huge issue. I didn't love 664 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 7: how they didn't feel like an aggressive enough game plan 665 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: and when they went aggressive. Now he's holding on the 666 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 7: ball and putting the put in the offensive line in 667 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 7: a tough spot. Like, I don't think they're gonna watch 668 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 7: to film and feel really good about it. 669 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. 670 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: And Matt's not somebody that just hammers coaches to hammer 671 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: coaches but it was Jmack Victory Lap for you, Victory 672 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: lap Monday for Jason McIntyre. You said you came out 673 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: and said, I don't know if New England's gonna score. 674 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. I felt great about that twelve nothing third quarter. 675 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: Come on, I was waiting for the text from Cowherd. 676 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: He must have been on like his sixth Margarita, No 677 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 5: at that point. I mean, listen, it was I was 678 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 5: hoping for the shutout because we've never seen a Super 679 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: Bowl shutout, right. 680 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, they started talking about it on air. 681 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't somebody start talking about it one of the broadcasts. 682 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 5: I mean, hell, the steel Seahawks kicker was in the 683 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 5: mix to win the MVP. That was the kind of 684 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: game it was. 685 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 686 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Again, RG three pointed this out. Seattle took the points. Yeah, 687 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: nothing wrong, would take it. It takes pressure off Sam Darnold. 688 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to get to the second quarter and 689 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: it's seven to nothing and you failed. But you know, 690 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: the analytics take when you're facing in a high pressure game, 691 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: a great defense, and those are two great defenses. 692 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: Take the points. 693 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Seattle had the fourth fewest fourth down attempts this year 694 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: and just hoisted a trophy fourth fewest. 695 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: Why. 696 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Because they have a great defense, great special teams. 697 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: They don't need big risk