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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
Speaker 2: my name is Nolan.
Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined, as always with our
Speaker 3: super producer, Max Freight Train Williams. Most importantly, you are here,
Speaker 3: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you
Speaker 3: to know. It's a very special show for us today, folks.
Speaker 3: We are examining a wide range of things in what
Speaker 3: is part of a continuing conversation we started in Austin,
Speaker 3: Texas some time ago. We're not diving into this alone, folks.
Speaker 3: We are joined with the man, the myth, the legend,
Speaker 3: John Rondie Sr. Also known as to many of our listeners,
Speaker 3: the creator of Johnny Drinks. Sir, thank you for coming
Speaker 3: on the show today.
Speaker 4: Oh come on, this is awesome. I love it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: I gotta say like the shadow boxing. It was a
Speaker 6: good move there, and I like the risk whatever you
Speaker 6: call those, the cuffs, the wrist.
Speaker 5: I know you got something.
Speaker 4: This is my Red Vanley Listen. I have the pleasure
Speaker 4: luxury of being afforded a lot of swag.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought that was stuff we all get. How
Speaker 5: can we didn't get that.
Speaker 4: I'm in front of the camera a little more. Baby,
Speaker 4: it works.
Speaker 5: You're looking good, John.
Speaker 6: We're glad to have me here today to talk about
Speaker 6: I like you like Ben said a bit of a
Speaker 6: grab bag episode today, which is great because we're going
Speaker 6: into a long weekend.
Speaker 5: Everybody likes a grab bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, before we get started, though, let's talk about you, John,
Speaker 2: who you are, what the Johnny Drinks podcast is in
Speaker 2: Johnny Drinks in general, how it came to be, and
Speaker 2: the fact that you've made this thing with your son,
Speaker 2: which you know as a father, it's like one of
Speaker 2: the coolest things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's well unbelievable that I get to
Speaker 4: share the story, the message, the journey. Right, It's just
Speaker 4: been something that came to us. The bottom line is,
Speaker 4: my son and I didn't set out to do this. Right.
Speaker 4: We literally filmed a video of me making a cocktail.
Speaker 4: I made the cocktail, he videoed, it went viral. The rest,
Speaker 4: as they will say, becomes the history of our journey.
Speaker 4: Because after that first video, that was his first TikTok,
Speaker 4: so think about this, takes his camera out, says, I'm
Speaker 4: going to download the app, downloads the app. Videos in
Speaker 4: the app me making a cock It goes over eight
Speaker 4: million views, okay. And that next day he's like, we
Speaker 4: got to do this again. I'm like, okay, what did
Speaker 4: we do? So it's pre COVID February twenty twenty. Make
Speaker 4: the cocktail, goes viral. Subsequent to that, do other videos,
Speaker 4: and then the pandemic hits in like April, right, So
Speaker 4: now we're in we're in lockdown, and everybody's doing what
Speaker 4: they're doing, of course, and we just expand upon, you know,
Speaker 4: taking up time and space and not driving each other
Speaker 4: nuts and just having fun. And that's how it was born.
Speaker 3: So you really did. You have continued to strike a
Speaker 3: chord with people, not just on TikTok, but on any
Speaker 3: number of social media platforms, including, as Matt mentioned, the
Speaker 3: Johnny Drinks podcast. One of my favorite parts of the
Speaker 3: Origin story, John is, uh, the way the way you
Speaker 3: explained it, which is super humble. By the way, man
Speaker 3: is Okay, we've we've made you make the cocktail, right,
Speaker 3: and uh, you're you're making Manhattan's and after after you
Speaker 3: make the Manhattan you're you're basically just doing it because
Speaker 3: you're all going out to uh a steakhouse Del Frisco's.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so my favorite part of this story is
Speaker 3: the way I've read it in a couple of iterations,
Speaker 3: is that you guys go and you're having dinner and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the phone goes nuts. Right, So
Speaker 3: I really thought this was just something entertaining to do
Speaker 3: for a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen, I know. Yeah, I gave you the
Speaker 4: briefed version. I'm happy to like now expand a little
Speaker 4: bit and dissect it. But when we were out to dinner,
Speaker 4: and again it was my nephews, my brother in law,
Speaker 4: my sons, so it was just guys being dudes, pregaming
Speaker 4: my basement, make the cocktails. We go out to Del Fresco's,
Speaker 4: and at dinner, Johnny's like that that videos doing really well.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, oh great, one hundred thousand views, Dad, dessert,
Speaker 4: we're close to a million views. I'm like great. We
Speaker 4: get in the car, Dad, this thing is going. I'm like,
Speaker 4: where's it going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going.
Speaker 4: My brother in law, who's fifty eight years old, we're
Speaker 4: looking at you, Ollie, what are they talking about? It's
Speaker 4: going and then subsequent next day, the next day, traction
Speaker 4: it's building. I'm like, wow, okay, cool, it's just fun.
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about that revenue streams, right, Like, did
Speaker 2: you ever think in your wildest dreams that this thing,
Speaker 2: whatever social media is, could be a viable revenue stream
Speaker 2: for I mean for anybody. It's pretty nuts.
Speaker 4: I believe it. Matt ben Noel. If you guys heard
Speaker 4: what I said to everybody the first let's say, six
Speaker 4: months into this whole thing, it's like, this isn't real.
Speaker 4: This is such bs. This is like, you know, killing time,
Speaker 4: but it's like, what are we doing. I actually made
Speaker 4: a deal with my son. I said, Okay, here's what
Speaker 4: we're gonna do. You know this is cute, This is cute.
Speaker 4: I have a full time job in twenty twenty. I'm
Speaker 4: in the mortgage business. I mean, in thirty two years,
Speaker 4: I am cranked out, busy, out of my mind that
Speaker 4: it was one of the best years in the mortgage industry.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty. Everyone's refinancing, everyone's locked down. Okay, you might
Speaker 4: not relate to that because you may have had a
Speaker 4: mortgage or needed a mortgage, But it was one of
Speaker 4: the best years I ever had.
Speaker 3: You hit on some things that are really interesting on
Speaker 3: my ends, and I think our listeners will find this
Speaker 3: fascinating as well. You said the words, you know it experimental, right,
Speaker 3: we're expanding h And you also mentioned your extensive experience
Speaker 3: in the world of finance, in the world of mortgages,
Speaker 3: I saw. I saw a really compelling conversation you had
Speaker 3: with a colleague regarding what was it eight right?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And for many of us, like when this
Speaker 3: show was first a twinkle in some ill advised eyes
Speaker 3: of some kids who were certain they would get fired
Speaker 3: by the way we we were, this was something that
Speaker 3: was on everybody's mind. And I think for a lot
Speaker 3: of people, we see this cyclical, like the same batch
Speaker 3: of conspiracy theories get thrown around regarding regarding the ideas
Speaker 3: of crashes, recessions and so on. And what do you
Speaker 3: think for we're the average person who doesn't have your
Speaker 3: depth of experience here, how would you respond when people
Speaker 3: say there are conspiracies afoot in the world of finance?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, listen, I think and I'm on
Speaker 4: a conspiracy theorist person or advocate of sort of life.
Speaker 4: But I believe things. So if you if you have
Speaker 4: things that you would bring to light as fact, I
Speaker 4: want to hear it. I'm listening. I'm still trying to
Speaker 4: figure out who killed JFK. I'm all about let me
Speaker 4: hear it because it's cool, right. But the more you
Speaker 4: hear then the more you get to kind of deduct
Speaker 4: for yourself. And that's the nice part about why you
Speaker 4: guys are even doing what you're doing. Right. So, when
Speaker 4: we think about the financial crash of eight specifically in
Speaker 4: that conversation, everyone was contributing to it. There were and
Speaker 4: always will be people in the financial world that will
Speaker 4: take advantage of their position. Right, It's like us hanging out.
Speaker 4: We hang out with each other. We're accountable excuse me
Speaker 4: to each other. We get a little creative with each other.
Speaker 4: You're foolish if you don't think those people in those
Speaker 4: proverbial ivory towers don't do the same thing that they
Speaker 4: don't talk and they don't learn how to encode, so
Speaker 4: they cover their butts figure out ways to monetize and
Speaker 4: make money off.
Speaker 6: For sure, anytime we talk about secret societies or kind
Speaker 6: of clandestine meetings. It usually boils down more to networking
Speaker 6: events than it does to some sort of master plan,
Speaker 6: you know, And it's the idea of how can you know,
Speaker 6: we be the rising tide that carries all both as
Speaker 6: long as you trying to eat my lunch, you know,
Speaker 6: other wealthy influencing person, And that's who I'm talking to.
Speaker 6: So it's a it is there. It is a conspiracy,
Speaker 6: but so is business. I mean, like it's so interesting.
Speaker 6: The term conspiracy is so loaded, but it really is
Speaker 6: just like a way of formulating a plan to.
Speaker 5: Put something into action.
Speaker 6: So I mean, the idea of a conspiracy isn't always
Speaker 6: as secretive and clandestine as one might think. It really
Speaker 6: is just about tactics and strategy and like pushing forth
Speaker 6: ideas in the world and sort of being those thought leaders,
Speaker 6: et cetera.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I wonder about about mortgages in general,
Speaker 2: and I wonder about buying homes right now. It's a
Speaker 2: weird time. I was having a conversation with my parents
Speaker 2: just about how houses were such a long term investment,
Speaker 2: at least that's how they viewed them when they were
Speaker 2: growing up. It feels like there's a push for the
Speaker 2: short term, you know, turn around the money, basically flip
Speaker 2: a house in you know, months or a year or so.
Speaker 2: Where do you see all of that heading when it
Speaker 2: comes to basically everybody out there listening right now who's
Speaker 2: worried about being able to buy property at some point
Speaker 2: and it doesn't feel like a goal that's even achievable.
Speaker 2: Where where do you see everything going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well you know what, Matt, It's it's inevitable
Speaker 4: that you have to leave your parents. You can't live
Speaker 4: with them the rest of your life. Right So for
Speaker 4: the younger people, it'll happen, whether they kick you out
Speaker 4: or you just get tired of it, you're gonna you know,
Speaker 4: you'll find your own place. The problem right now is
Speaker 4: there's no inventory. There's just there aren't any homes that
Speaker 4: in any market. If you were to look at the
Speaker 4: homes that were for sale a year ago are available today,
Speaker 4: it's like eighty percent less. It's crazy. What's just evaporated,
Speaker 4: let alone the prices that have flattened out. So it's
Speaker 4: gonna come back. And the person like my son who
Speaker 4: is twenty seven, who is looking a year ago, is
Speaker 4: now just gonna be patient because it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: buyer's market at some point, right, because you can't you
Speaker 4: can't hold on to that current home that you really
Speaker 4: should put on the market. And for different reasons. If
Speaker 4: you're an older person like maybe your parents, well something's
Speaker 4: gonna happen, right, Attrition is gonna factor in or usually
Speaker 4: gonna say to your kids, hey, you buy it, I'll
Speaker 4: sell to you, I'll hold a note. There's gonna be
Speaker 4: a change over somewhere. So those people who are in
Speaker 4: this market trying to find a house now I feel
Speaker 4: bad for it because there's not a lot of options
Speaker 4: and they're chasing answer things just to have a bite
Speaker 4: of the apple, and they don't even know if it's
Speaker 4: really what they want. You know, everyone wants what they
Speaker 4: can't have, and all of a sudden, you're making offers
Speaker 4: on a house that you'd compromise so much, and you think,
Speaker 4: but at least I got a house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes I think a lot of that comes
Speaker 3: to as a person who just put off buying a
Speaker 3: house until you know, later next year, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They I think a lot of it comes down to this,
Speaker 3: these sort of cultural mores that are put upon people.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in Shorthand they're referred to as the American dream.
Speaker 3: But if you feel this obligation, even if it's not
Speaker 3: the right fit for you, then you find your reality
Speaker 3: and what you have been taught should be your reality
Speaker 3: in conflict. And this brings us to a bigger thing.
Speaker 3: Very interested in your thoughts on this one, John, Okay,
Speaker 3: phrasing this carefully. I want to get this right. Do
Speaker 3: you believe that overall Western society is moving away from
Speaker 3: an ownership society to a service or subscription society. This
Speaker 3: is something that we have bandied about on the show before.
Speaker 3: And when I think of this, I'm not just thinking
Speaker 3: of you know, like a lot of the investment firms
Speaker 3: maybe in the US and abroad that have been buying
Speaker 3: up homes, or you know, foreign nationals representatives of foreign
Speaker 3: institutions buying homes big problem in Canada. I'm thinking also
Speaker 3: of how subscription services are entering the automobile, like BMW recently,
Speaker 3: you know, has these monthly payments you must make for
Speaker 3: technology that already exists in the car. Do you think
Speaker 3: there's something to that? And if so, are people being
Speaker 3: maybe alarmist or hyperbolic or is that a valid concern
Speaker 3: people should have.
Speaker 4: So there's it. I'm a simplify it. It's rent versus buying. Right,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who's how they're renting it, who's owning
Speaker 4: it to rent, why they're doing it Airbnb, vrbo, it's
Speaker 4: rent versus by. My son and I just had on
Speaker 4: our podcast this conversation rent versus buy. And so I
Speaker 4: think that while the American dream, or part of what
Speaker 4: I say is like the three pinnacles of one getting married,
Speaker 4: to owning a home, and three having children may not
Speaker 4: fit everybody, those are the three pillars right for most people.
Speaker 4: And if you can get one out of the three, great,
Speaker 4: get you go three for three, fantastic, But I think
Speaker 4: everyone would love to just get at least, you know,
Speaker 4: a shot at one of those in their lifetime. Renting
Speaker 4: right now is so attractive because those people who are
Speaker 4: in a position right to to control it have made
Speaker 4: it so convenient. They've made it such that now there's
Speaker 4: these worlds within the world, in the community, and you
Speaker 4: know you can you can find this at every demographic right. So, Matt,
Speaker 4: your parents are older mine or older, everyone's got hopefully
Speaker 4: you know parents that can still enjoy you know, their
Speaker 4: their their senior years. But they have all these communities
Speaker 4: now that they're doing everything. I mean, right, who's not
Speaker 4: playing pickleball? My fam was, you know, eighty five years
Speaker 4: old playing pickaball. I can't walk?
Speaker 6: Where did that come from? What are you taking over malls?
Speaker 6: What the hell is anyway?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But no, But so that's exactly right. Everything has
Speaker 4: found this uh social aspect greater today than ever before.
Speaker 4: My son John lives in this complex in Jersey City,
Speaker 4: and guys, it's like just beautiful, beautiful young people in
Speaker 4: and out, all sorts of demographics, right, and then they
Speaker 4: have on the roof day of this pool. They have
Speaker 4: all this area and they hang out, like gosh, who
Speaker 4: does want to live here? So that's where Ben, I
Speaker 4: think it's it becomes very easy maybe for the subscription
Speaker 4: mind you know, mindset, I don't want to buy the car.
Speaker 4: I'll just let me tell you. You know, we borrow
Speaker 4: it here and they use it for this purpose then
Speaker 4: and you know, rent it for the time they need
Speaker 4: and when you need it. Right. So, but but I
Speaker 4: I think that the ultimate goal still is being one
Speaker 4: of those pillars, is to buy it to have it.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you know.
Speaker 6: I I recently bought a home and I was terrified
Speaker 6: to do it for the longest time. I had one
Speaker 6: in a previous life when I was married, when my
Speaker 6: kid was really young, and we sold that house and
Speaker 6: I rented ever since. But I did have that kind
Speaker 6: of fomo sort of like you know, fear of like
Speaker 6: being left behind, left in the dust. I'm like, how
Speaker 6: come all these friends of mine were younger than me
Speaker 6: or buying houses, Like I, what's the deal? What am
Speaker 6: I missing? And I think that is a danger in
Speaker 6: and of itself. It It wasn't until I was just like, look,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take a look at Sloman and I have
Speaker 6: my kid's best friend's mom's realtor, and I looked at
Speaker 6: like six or seven in one day, and I saw
Speaker 6: a place that I'm sitting in the basement of right now.
Speaker 6: I'ma have a recording studio, and it's very important to me.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I do music. And I've been shoving all
Speaker 6: my gear that I've been collecting since I was a
Speaker 6: teenager into a spare bedroom for years. And I saw
Speaker 6: the space and I was like, think what I could
Speaker 6: do with the space. It would change my life it
Speaker 6: would change my life to be able to have this
Speaker 6: space to put all my stuff in, to be creative
Speaker 6: in my own home. That's what twisted the key for
Speaker 6: me and made me like, now I want it in
Speaker 6: a way that's not just I'm sad that I'm being
Speaker 6: left behind. So I think to your point, like it
Speaker 6: is important to realize, like what do you actually want?
Speaker 5: What are you going for in your life?
Speaker 6: Is it smart for you to be able to own
Speaker 6: a place, or is it better or more advantageous to
Speaker 6: you just to continue to rent, because there is anything
Speaker 6: inherently wrong with renting. It was for me this silly,
Speaker 6: kind of childish fomo that then was replaced by Okay, no,
Speaker 6: now I actually want this for a real reason for
Speaker 6: my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, good point. It makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Guys, I want to jump back to something we were
Speaker 2: talking about before, and I'm trying to connect some ideas
Speaker 2: here to come up with something interesting. Okay, so you've
Speaker 2: got the show Johnny Drinks. It is just centered on
Speaker 2: those drinks, even though that's not what the Johnny Drinks
Speaker 2: podcast is about right, it's about way more things than that.
Speaker 2: But the Johnny Drinks persona of the social media presence
Speaker 2: is about drinks. You got what is the thing? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you sell a smoker, I think, and it is just awesome.
Speaker 2: We got to see Brian bomb Gardner do it like
Speaker 2: right next to me. It was incredible. So there's we're
Speaker 2: talking about revenue streams, we're talking about drinks. I want
Speaker 2: to get back to prohibition and the times in the
Speaker 2: United States when alcohol became illegal, because I think there's
Speaker 2: a there's a something really interesting there with finding a
Speaker 2: revenue stream at a time when it was illegal to
Speaker 2: make money on that thing, but there was a will
Speaker 2: and there were ways to still make money on that thing.
Speaker 2: And I just wonder if over your years, because are
Speaker 2: you from New York or New Jersey? From New Jersey,
Speaker 2: New Jersey, So I just wonder if you had any
Speaker 2: just I don't know, just living in that area talking
Speaker 2: with people being in the financial sector. Just I wonder
Speaker 2: if you've ever heard stories or anything just when it
Speaker 2: comes to like the real wealth that was built from
Speaker 2: prohibition that was underground and then turned into legitimate businesses
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, listen, there's people that are very resourceful, right,
Speaker 4: people who are entrepreneurial and opportunists, regardless of whatever society
Speaker 4: smashes you in the face with. So we have prohibition,
Speaker 4: the Great Depression, you know, things that as you reflect
Speaker 4: back in and out of society and times where it
Speaker 4: got really hard, people are going to be creative. I mean,
Speaker 4: I will not say, let's talk about the mob and
Speaker 4: get into that, but who exploited it more than them?
Speaker 4: They although again the stereotypes associated with it are well deserved.
Speaker 4: You know, they did it. They found a way through
Speaker 4: prohibition to make a business or businesses. You know, there's
Speaker 4: the speakeasies, and to your you know, I guess your
Speaker 4: question about being in this area, there's some still some
Speaker 4: speakeasies that are original that I've been to, and there's
Speaker 4: one there's one down in Atlantic City, New Jersey that
Speaker 4: it was so cool just going in there and seeing
Speaker 4: everything still the way it was. And it wasn't that
Speaker 4: they tore down and got rid of They got rid
Speaker 4: of some stuff because some stuff just you know, it
Speaker 4: ages out and you can't, you know, can't keep it.
Speaker 4: But it's so cool and interesting to see how they
Speaker 4: did survive, and how they did facilitate the needs of
Speaker 4: men and how women play a role in that, and
Speaker 4: then the business models if you would of some of that,
Speaker 4: so from from drinking to the socializing and you know,
Speaker 4: the police that would come in the front empire. Yeah really, Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're walking by which which, by the way, I never watched.
Speaker 4: I don't think I watched maybe but a couple of
Speaker 4: episodes of Boardwalk Empire, but I.
Speaker 5: Sleepd on it.
Speaker 6: I watched a few and then I left it. But
Speaker 6: then I went back and it's good. It really gets
Speaker 6: interesting and history.
Speaker 5: For your background, I think you dig it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3: It's based on a lot of historical precedent. We've talked
Speaker 3: about prohibition the past, and I love the I love
Speaker 3: what you're describing here, John, because we know that Faulkner
Speaker 3: was right when he said the past isn't really ever over.
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, but you know, we see we see the
Speaker 3: echoes of these things, and and with prohibition, you know,
Speaker 3: there's so much nasty stuff there that happens. Like people
Speaker 3: always say, yes, the mob was doing terrible things, while
Speaker 3: they forget that the US government knowingly poison and a
Speaker 3: ton of people, you know, with denatured alcohol. We also
Speaker 3: saw in that short and cartoonishly unsuccessful national experiment from
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty that nineteen thirty three, excuse me,
Speaker 3: that prohibition just didn't work. And as like as a
Speaker 3: business model for Uncle Sam, prohibition did not work with alcohol.
Speaker 3: But you know, we've had some really interesting conversations with
Speaker 3: folks that I won't call them conspiracy theorists, I will
Speaker 3: call them advocates, right stakeholders maybe about the modern state
Speaker 3: of prohibition for other substances in the US. You know,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's always the money that moves revenue
Speaker 3: stream policy, right, and so, in very divided times in
Speaker 3: the United States, one of the few issues that all
Speaker 3: sides of the political aisle could agree on is, oh,
Speaker 3: we can make money off cannabis. Maybe we should give
Speaker 3: that a go. I'm really interested in hearing your opinions
Speaker 3: on the idea of prohibition for other substances like should
Speaker 3: And hey, if you if you for some reason want
Speaker 3: to throw us at curveball and say that you think
Speaker 3: alcohol should be illegal again, then by all means, don't
Speaker 3: say that. But what do you think about the What
Speaker 3: do you think about the people who are saying banning
Speaker 3: or current like drug laws are a kind of prohibition
Speaker 3: in the modern day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I don't know enough about it,
Speaker 4: and then I don't use it. I'm out of THHD
Speaker 4: CBD person at all. I'm just don't. My children and
Speaker 4: their friends, it seems like nine out of ten of
Speaker 4: them all are doing some format it. But the most
Speaker 4: that I do is I'll do the CBD cream once
Speaker 4: in a while on my shoulder or my back. But
Speaker 4: but I'm really not that that's when you asked them
Speaker 4: to be some sort of new prohibition, I would I
Speaker 4: don't think so. I think that I think that it's
Speaker 4: okay that it's now brought to light. It does help
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I think that, you know, the
Speaker 4: strains of it are dangerous, which I'm learning because again
Speaker 4: my family, kids and friends, they all use it in
Speaker 4: this form of self medication that that I don't that
Speaker 4: I don't really I think that's a slippery slope. I
Speaker 4: think that's dangerous.
Speaker 6: One that alcohol is a is a party two as well, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm going caffeine. This is like my second monster.
Speaker 6: Yeah, even the medications your doctors prescribe you're still taking it,
Speaker 6: so you're self medicating.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but you don't interesting
Speaker 4: all about that, And again I don't. I guess this
Speaker 4: is the part of anything as a vice, anything that's abused,
Speaker 4: anything could be habitually uh and then become an addiction. Right,
Speaker 4: this specific conversation about marijuana, let's say THC and you
Speaker 4: know all the other options of gummies and the way
Speaker 4: you want to enjoy, whether it's recreational or purposes of medicating.
Speaker 4: I just I think there's this misnomer that, oh, it's
Speaker 4: not addicting, that's the problem for me, because but it
Speaker 4: is addicting, right, There's there's a strain of it addicting.
Speaker 4: So so that for me would just be a reason
Speaker 4: that maybe pump the brakes. It's so you know, what
Speaker 4: we used to do or what my generation did younger
Speaker 4: here and there, that marijuana is not the same today close, right,
Speaker 4: So that's the dangerous.
Speaker 6: Part I think is interesting, the idea of addiction to like,
Speaker 6: there's there's different sides of it, there's different colors of it.
Speaker 6: You can be addicted to driving a car really fast
Speaker 6: because it's fun. It doesn't mean that you're physically dependent
Speaker 6: on driving a car really fast. You just really like
Speaker 6: doing it. So therefore you're going to go for a repeat,
Speaker 6: you know, rinse and repeat, so you know. Well, I
Speaker 6: don't think necessarily marijuana is like physically addictive. I think
Speaker 6: people like it and it works for them, and maybe
Speaker 6: some people like it a little too much and probably
Speaker 6: use it a little too much. But I do think
Speaker 6: there is science in that marijuana is not addictive in
Speaker 6: the same way that heroin or cocaine are addictive.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't argue that,
Speaker 4: but I say I don't know because I don't know.
Speaker 4: What I see is. I'm thinking it is addicting, right,
Speaker 4: And here's why. Every young person that I've gotten close to,
Speaker 4: and this is one of the advantages I have, TikTok
Speaker 4: dad and now this personality, right, I'm telling you, they
Speaker 4: bring this to me. Which is just last perfect example,
Speaker 4: just last night have people over. Young guys says to me,
Speaker 4: he would you mind if I go smoke a little
Speaker 4: bit outside? Okt Well, okay, cool. Later find out that anxiousness, anxiety,
Speaker 4: you know, irritability, you know, it just helps me. It
Speaker 4: helps me sleep, helps my appetite, help suppress helps.
Speaker 3: So yeah, ritual is addictive too, Yeah yeah, right, yeah right.
Speaker 4: So you know that's the part when again I say
Speaker 4: to nine out of ten people in my world and
Speaker 4: spear are offering this explanation to why they're doing it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm not even looking for it. I'm
Speaker 4: not asking why you're doing it. I'm not I'm not doctor.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like proactively justifying, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: So far, there's no prohibition on ads. So guess what
Speaker 2: here they are. We'll be right.
Speaker 3: Back and we're back with Johnny Drinks.
Speaker 2: Guys. I want to jump to a mild addiction maybe
Speaker 2: that I have that I think a lot of Americans have.
Speaker 2: Reset In fact, yes, monster get out watching two highly
Speaker 2: skilled people absolutely fight each other almost to the death
Speaker 2: in an octagon or a ring or something like that.
Speaker 2: You recently could because this actually ties back to like
Speaker 2: Atlantic City and then Vegas and revenue streams. Right, You've
Speaker 2: recently spoke with Dana White, president of the UFC, and
Speaker 2: now you know entrepreneur does a whole bunch of things.
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by him and the fertida brothers and
Speaker 2: that business and how it's grown. Fascinating conversation. If you're interested,
Speaker 2: go listen to Johnny Drinks podcast and listen to that
Speaker 2: episode with Dana White. Really good. He he talks about
Speaker 2: something in there that want to ask you about john
Speaker 2: This new thing he's got called power slap. I think
Speaker 2: that's what it's called that. Look, guys to me, do
Speaker 2: you guys know what this is? Power slaps?
Speaker 4: He heard of? This?
Speaker 5: Is this like an energy drink or no move? What
Speaker 5: are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: So you're aware of the UFC, right, uh MMA, fighters
Speaker 2: too and a raw.
Speaker 3: I don't I know what power slap is?
Speaker 5: Okay, I surprise, No, I don't know. I'm not being
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5: It's such a big old slap.
Speaker 3: I got that, okay, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So it's two human beings standing across from each other
Speaker 2: at about arm's length, and literally you take turns slapping
Speaker 2: the other person as hard as you possibly can, and
Speaker 2: it's a it's a war of attrition. Whichever person either
Speaker 2: gets knocked out.
Speaker 5: And you know this, it's an event a jew itself.
Speaker 5: It's like a micro event basically like it's.
Speaker 3: It's the world's premiere slap fighting promotion.
Speaker 5: Got it? Got it?
Speaker 2: Well, it just makes me think about again social media, right,
Speaker 2: and we've become so accustomed to like short video chemicks.
Speaker 2: We get our attention can latch onto something for just
Speaker 2: a moment, then it's got to go away. This feels
Speaker 2: like the UFC's answer to rather than three rounds, you know,
Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes each, you get just some
Speaker 2: slaps and then it's done and you're good to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just what do you what do you?
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, instant gratification. I said that Dana White. You know,
Speaker 4: I watched the reels and the shorts, not even knowing
Speaker 4: until we sat down with him his investment major into this.
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know all that, right, I
Speaker 4: just I watched it and like you, oh my god.
Speaker 4: You go to the next video, and then some girls
Speaker 4: jumping up and down, and you go to next video
Speaker 4: some guys making a cocktail. So it's like you just
Speaker 4: keep going and and you know, in that conversation, he
Speaker 4: said that they have more eyeballs on that right now
Speaker 4: and views more than all professional sports put together. That's
Speaker 4: mean to me, is he said, he goes. You have
Speaker 4: to really let that sink in a little bit, the
Speaker 4: magnitude of how popular it is, and and that he's
Speaker 4: just obviously super excited because he's creating this whole venue
Speaker 4: now for it. But yeah, to your point, listen to
Speaker 4: the podcast. You got to you got to hear him
Speaker 4: dive into it. He's so easy to talk to it
Speaker 4: and he's so good with us. I'm humbled and value
Speaker 4: his friendship now because he's he likes us and we
Speaker 4: like him. And it's been you know, three years since
Speaker 4: I first met him, and he's just shared with us
Speaker 4: what he can and is as real as what you
Speaker 4: think you you get with him. You know, what you
Speaker 4: see is what you get. He's that guy. He'll tell
Speaker 4: you if he doesn't like it, I'll tell you sorry.
Speaker 6: I'll just watching a clip show of like I guess
Speaker 6: the trailer for the new season of this thing, and.
Speaker 5: It's pretty jaw dropping.
Speaker 6: I like that the powder their hands up so you
Speaker 6: get a nice explosion like Chuck, and.
Speaker 3: It's it's they know what they're doing too. There's there
Speaker 3: are a couple where you see where you see guys
Speaker 3: obviously get clocked and they deep six to the ground.
Speaker 3: But but so like with this, this brings us to
Speaker 3: another thing. Matt brought up the point of so I
Speaker 3: often call social media as our show is very very
Speaker 3: active on it, I have to call social media kind
Speaker 3: of the dopamine casino.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And we know that they're because you know, like you said,
Speaker 3: it's the instant gratification. Every body of the Brownie is
Speaker 3: the corner piece right on social media. So the the
Speaker 3: the one thing I want to ask is there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of scuttle but a lot of discourse and
Speaker 3: debate about social media and its short form social media
Speaker 3: in particular, uh, and possible effects on kids or younger
Speaker 3: folks in their formative years. What what do you think
Speaker 3: about that? And I know we're like we'd shows that
Speaker 3: our show is okay on social media. Your empire is
Speaker 3: incredibly accomplished there. And I to me, Johnny Drinks feels
Speaker 3: smart and wholesome, right cool and sincerity. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And I want I want you to expand
Speaker 4: upon that because before I answer your question, where you're
Speaker 4: going with it? And not to cut you off, but
Speaker 4: tell me, what what do you what do you think
Speaker 4: our brand is tell me what your your impression is
Speaker 4: and then finished that thought about the question. Then I'm
Speaker 4: going to yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: And our answers, all three of our answers may differ here.
Speaker 3: But for me, what I see is this is a
Speaker 3: cool family. That's what I mean. Why I say it's
Speaker 3: wholesome right. The first thing is, look at this a
Speaker 3: family that actually likes hanging out with each other, which
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't have, if we're being completely candid.
Speaker 3: And then there's also this what I My favorite kind
Speaker 3: of way to communicate education, to educate people is approachable,
Speaker 3: entertaining stuff like hey, we're not necessarily experts, but learn
Speaker 3: together with us.
Speaker 5: This is cool.
Speaker 3: Here's the trick I know. So there's nothing condescending there,
Speaker 3: and condescension I think is a great enemy of education.
Speaker 3: That's what I would say.
Speaker 4: Good point, all right, cool, all right, So you know
Speaker 4: your question around and thanks for sharing the thoughts because
Speaker 4: that matters. And to answer, where we fit in to society? Right?
Speaker 4: Where this digital playing you know, playground tiktoks, shorts, all
Speaker 4: this blast of of some of it being just right.
Speaker 4: The thing that motivates me is I get a chance
Speaker 4: to educate. I get a chance to be realistic. Right.
Speaker 4: I'm not a professional bartender, I'm not a mixologist. I'm
Speaker 4: a home tender. I'm a father, I'm a husband. I
Speaker 4: don't get everything right. And you know, it's okay if
Speaker 4: you point out that I did something differently or not
Speaker 4: by the textbook. But I don't care because the drink
Speaker 4: still tastes good. My family still loves me. Right, and
Speaker 4: I wake up with a purpose and I go to
Speaker 4: at a night putting closure to things. So there's this continual,
Speaker 4: really gift of an opportunity having conversations like this, meeting
Speaker 4: with young people and talking to old people about the
Speaker 4: same subject matter, and knowing whatever small little role I
Speaker 4: have in social media as it relates to the impressionable
Speaker 4: younger generation. I'm good with. I'm doing my part. You know.
Speaker 4: The misnomer here is but it's alcohol. Yeah, you're you're
Speaker 4: teaching young people drink. I didn't even think about that,
Speaker 4: No I'm not. Yeah, No, well that's the This is
Speaker 4: so very very again poignant for me. When my son
Speaker 4: said we're gonna do these videos. We gotta keep going millions,
Speaker 4: I might, and he says, Johnny drinks I'm like, why
Speaker 4: are you gonna call Johnny Drinks? He goes, because you're John,
Speaker 4: I'm John, We're Johnny and we're drinking. I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 4: I didn't like the name I got to be I
Speaker 4: still to this day, and I said to him, can
Speaker 4: you find another name? Like, why is it going to
Speaker 4: be Johnny Drinks? Ps. The reason I didn't like it
Speaker 4: is because of the association of me being a drinker.
Speaker 4: I'm not a big drinker. I drink more now than
Speaker 4: I ever did. And that's also on one of our podcasts,
Speaker 4: If you Wait, my son had my wife on as
Speaker 4: a guest, so it's it's Mama Rondy and that was
Speaker 4: a good episode for a lot of reasons. Actually, she's second,
Speaker 4: I think in views behind Dana White. So she's got
Speaker 4: He's got like thirty thousand views on the YouTube pod
Speaker 4: and she's got like two and a half thousand, two
Speaker 4: point five. But anyway, my point is, you know, we
Speaker 4: talk about that and that episode that I didn't drink
Speaker 4: in high school. I didn't drink in college. I started
Speaker 4: to drink and experiment with drinking when I really joined
Speaker 4: a country club here that I play golf, ats that
Speaker 4: was like twenty years ago. So when my son says
Speaker 4: we're going to be Johnny Drinks, I'm like, find another name, right,
Speaker 4: Because I was very I'm in the finance world. I
Speaker 4: was always concerned about image. Takes you takes your lifetime
Speaker 4: to build and create your image, and takes maybe seconds
Speaker 4: to lose it, your reputation. It can go like that
Speaker 4: you do something wrong. So I'm really mindful of what
Speaker 4: Johnny Drinks brings to, especially the younger people. So any
Speaker 4: opportunity I get to drop some knowledge how to shine
Speaker 4: a shoe, how to make a tie, how to make
Speaker 4: your bed, how to how to how to how to
Speaker 4: jump start your car, you know, whatever it is, I
Speaker 4: relish it.
Speaker 3: I love that man, because we're old school. Back before
Speaker 3: the the idea of podcasts became a thing. We started
Speaker 3: off at a company called how Stuff Works, and it
Speaker 3: was just the the perfect job for people like yeah,
Speaker 3: for people to start sentences with actually at parties, you know, uh,
Speaker 3: and people who know too much weird trivia. So you know,
Speaker 3: the idea we've always had is world is both understandable
Speaker 3: and worth understanding. So that's really meaningful. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: know I should be asking a question. But I'm just now.
Speaker 4: This is great.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna we are going to take
Speaker 2: a huge left turn. Guys, you ready for this?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: Is it okay?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 2: You grew up in Jersey? Are you still do you
Speaker 2: still live in New Jersey?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay. Have you seen the Jersey Devil?
Speaker 4: Oh? Well, well there's when you say, that's so funny,
Speaker 4: the Jersey Devil. No, I haven't seen the Yo Jersey Devil.
Speaker 5: You probably were exposed to more talk about it than
Speaker 5: we would.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what crosses my mind you say
Speaker 4: that is the New Jersey Devil's mascot, the Jersey Devil.
Speaker 4: So I see it with the credential center any hockey game.
Speaker 4: But no, I haven't been the afford to the luxury
Speaker 4: of seeing the Jersey Devil.
Speaker 3: Let's let's go to it. Let's do Uh. There's a
Speaker 3: thing that we like to do. And our fellow conspiracy
Speaker 3: realist in the audience always love to play this game
Speaker 3: with guests of notes like yourself, sir. We typically about
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten when we're in an awesome
Speaker 3: conversation like this, our guests will say, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not I don't consider myself like a conspiracy person, and
Speaker 3: most people do and honestly should not. So what we
Speaker 3: do find is that pretty much ten times out of
Speaker 3: ten there's something that people find some sand too. And
Speaker 3: that's why we like to play a little round robin
Speaker 3: conspiracy true or false quiz. So we're gonna, yeah, we're
Speaker 3: gonna fire some stuff at just yes or no? Where
Speaker 3: do you think let's go with the one you started with,
Speaker 3: which is part of why we play the state. What
Speaker 3: do you think about the jfk assassination.
Speaker 4: I think there were many organizations involved. I don't think
Speaker 4: any one of them could have pulled it off without
Speaker 4: the help of another. Kay Cia, the mafia. I mean,
Speaker 4: we know, we know who the Patsy was. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, he ballistics and tests and all that stuff
Speaker 4: I think prove it's almost impossible for Lee Harvey Oswald
Speaker 4: in the school Book Depository, out the window in a movie.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't think that's real, right, I don't
Speaker 4: think that he did that on his own. The Zapruder film,
Speaker 4: the angles, the sounds that people heard on the Grassy Knoll,
Speaker 4: and the law on it. Come on. So that's a
Speaker 4: shame that it's a shame that all the what happened
Speaker 4: to all the archives of documents and you know the
Speaker 4: medical examiner such a.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how Lee Harvey Oswald on one day became
Speaker 3: a much better marksman than he had been at any
Speaker 3: other moment for the entirety of his life.
Speaker 5: That bullet split in half. That's a superpower.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And let's not forget our friend Jack Ruby
Speaker 4: that that work. Yeah, come on in.
Speaker 2: Man, that's actually there was the where was the metal detectors?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 5: Guys?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, that's that's that's one of
Speaker 4: my favorite ones. I've actually been to the school book Depository.
Speaker 4: Just as I was there, I was like, wow, this
Speaker 4: this is almost I don't know how you could have
Speaker 4: did this? So pretty cool.
Speaker 2: All right, well let's go let's go to one that's huge.
Speaker 2: It's like big picture and I don't want to go
Speaker 2: religious with this, John, So let's steer clear from a religion,
Speaker 2: just more philosophical. Okay, what happens when we die? It
Speaker 2: just in your a in where you are right now,
Speaker 2: like where do you think?
Speaker 4: Well, when we die, life is over and you know
Speaker 4: your body, putting religion aside your soul, you go back
Speaker 4: to Earth. It's the recycling process. So physically things become
Speaker 4: what they need to be. Spiritually, I believe I'm going
Speaker 4: to heaven, and I think that everyone has their own
Speaker 4: version of that. Well.
Speaker 6: It is interesting how like, I mean, every every kind
Speaker 6: of religious ideology is describing something that is, you know,
Speaker 6: somewhat understandable without religion, you know what I mean. You can,
Speaker 6: like if we look at it all as like energy transfer,
Speaker 6: you know, let's just look at it the most basic science.
Speaker 6: See cannot science fiction a science y way, Like everything
Speaker 6: energy has to go somewhere. Whatever is in us that
Speaker 6: makes us, you know, what we are is some form
Speaker 6: of energy, whether that dissipates back into you know, in
Speaker 6: the form of heat for example, or just in the
Speaker 6: form of like it goes back into the earth. We
Speaker 6: know that our bodies, uh if you know, not completely
Speaker 6: embalmed and put in a weird casket. Okay, that's some
Speaker 6: letting my own biases show there, you know, go back
Speaker 6: to the Earth and could conceivably become part of that
Speaker 6: cycle of like decay and creation that is life, you know,
Speaker 6: And I think that's cool, and it's a little annoying
Speaker 6: to me. They make it really hard to just do
Speaker 6: that naturally, and then you have to get like special
Speaker 6: permission and all this stuff. I think involving is kind
Speaker 6: of duelish, you know, and it's sort of counter to
Speaker 6: this whole thing. But whatever a soul is, you know,
Speaker 6: it's some form of energy, and I think it dissipates.
Speaker 6: And if there are you know, traces of things, whether
Speaker 6: it be like memories or the idea of hauntings, I
Speaker 6: think that's just remnants of energy that kind of you know,
Speaker 6: fill up a place where a lot of things have happened,
Speaker 6: a lot of people have passed, for example.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, like the the idea of energy is still
Speaker 3: I mean, there are several forms of energy there's still
Speaker 3: not understood by modern science.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: For I let me be careful. I don't want to
Speaker 3: just talk about my personal beliefs here. But maybe a
Speaker 3: good analogy would be a song you hear, a song
Speaker 3: that you really enjoy, and the notes in there, the
Speaker 3: E sharp or what have you, they the concept of
Speaker 3: them does not this appear, you know, So there's there's
Speaker 3: a there's a there's an interesting thing there if we
Speaker 3: took it more more stuff they want you to know,
Speaker 3: picking up on what you were saying, nol. However, we
Speaker 3: define that kind of stuff, some sort of persistence of energy,
Speaker 3: if such exists. Have you do you feel like you've
Speaker 3: ever had something that might be considered a paranormal encounter,
Speaker 3: like a vision of a ghost or some kind of
Speaker 3: entity that that at least you couldn't explain.
Speaker 4: So no, oh yes maybe, Uh here's why.
Speaker 5: It sounds like, here's why.
Speaker 4: Here's why. Personally, firsthand, my eyeballs, uh, my body, you know,
Speaker 4: movements and no. But my wife and my friends, yes,
Speaker 4: So through them, I believe that I believe that those
Speaker 4: things exist. My wife and my friend are certain, and
Speaker 4: they've given specific examples and times where it's occurred. So
Speaker 4: I'm again, I'm an easy guy to kind of sell to, right,
Speaker 4: I said it earlier, like, give me some facts. I'll
Speaker 4: listen and give me some so I believe them, And
Speaker 4: so why why don't I just I'm not going to
Speaker 4: discount that at all. There's those whole sorts of energy
Speaker 4: forms out there.
Speaker 3: It's like you you know, it's it's similar to the argument,
Speaker 3: I mean, this is imperfect, but it's similar to saying
Speaker 3: I've never been to Australia but but I know pe
Speaker 3: like I trust the people who have right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but does the water go the opposite way?
Speaker 3: You know, it's one of It's on my bucket list. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be I'm going to be in the lane. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're in the plane. When we cross over, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: flush and yeah, we'll figure out.
Speaker 4: I've heard people say that's not true, that's that's falls.
Speaker 5: And what if you flush right when you're getting to
Speaker 5: the crossover point?
Speaker 3: Is that's what I say, that.
Speaker 5: Flushing the water because it's the turning point.
Speaker 3: Okay, while we're on the Parado one more, there is
Speaker 3: a quick one extraterrestrials visiting Earth, however defined.
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I'm thinking I'm thinking area fifty one. I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. That's a tough one for me. Again,
Speaker 4: I would say, yes, there is, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: go talking about it or go intently looking for it
Speaker 4: and and listening to Again, you bring someone in front
Speaker 4: of me that can give me some information, maybe factual
Speaker 4: and substantial. I want to hear about it, so I
Speaker 4: will ever say no, I won't say never.
Speaker 3: Show me the alien says John, Yeah, I'm by the call.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want just a lump of a
Speaker 4: pile of mashed potatoes that you form into you know,
Speaker 4: this this extra you know thing that you believe, you
Speaker 4: know from the universe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he busted us. Yeah, it is a pile
Speaker 3: of mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: I got one last one, I promise. Okay, So you've
Speaker 2: had all this experience in the financial sector and you've
Speaker 2: you've dealt with you know, you yourself are a very
Speaker 2: important person in that world, and you've dealt with a
Speaker 2: lot of important people in that world. There is often
Speaker 2: this conception that the most wealthy and powerful people in
Speaker 2: the world do work together and they have they get
Speaker 2: in these groups like we talked about, like the Illuminati,
Speaker 2: and there's a real fear maybe of that or maybe
Speaker 2: a fascination with that concept in the public. Just I mean,
Speaker 2: if you were a part of the Illuminati, you couldn't
Speaker 2: tell us John, And that's fine. But what I mean is, like,
Speaker 2: do you ever oh, okay, we got that, guys. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just but like have you you're talking about country
Speaker 2: club Often I think about country clubs of the world
Speaker 2: as being the closest thing to like an illuminati, because
Speaker 2: it's just people who you know, get together and hang
Speaker 2: out and they're often influential people. Yeah, do you like,
Speaker 2: have you seen anything like that where it's just like, Wow,
Speaker 2: this feels a little off or does it? What do
Speaker 2: you what do you think?
Speaker 4: Well? I think so the word country club has this stereotype.
Speaker 4: Every time I say country club, I think I think
Speaker 4: it's blue bloods with scarves and mucking it up. And
Speaker 4: if you saw the guys that hang around with at
Speaker 4: my country club, first of all, you wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: These guys are having way too much fun, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't it just doesn't add up. The optics of it
Speaker 4: just don't add up because it's just a group of
Speaker 4: guys self in my case, self made guys. These aren't
Speaker 4: This is not generational wealth that's handed down. And you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't grow up at a country club. My father,
Speaker 4: blue collar, worked thirty years in American airlines, made fifty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. I think at its highest point, right his
Speaker 4: highest incum maybe been sixty thousand dollars. The point is,
Speaker 4: this is just a group of guys and found this
Speaker 4: convenience in our backyard, in our sandbox here in the
Speaker 4: town and the community we live in. And when I
Speaker 4: tell you, and I'm going to kind of I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'm getting off subject here, but so that
Speaker 4: country club. You can belong to a country club for
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars. Okay, that's a lot of money, but
Speaker 4: it's not like it's five hundred thousand dollars for only
Speaker 4: the affluent, wealthy, wealthy wealthy. Okay. So to back to
Speaker 4: your kind of your question, Matt, is you know, so
Speaker 4: here we are a group of guys and there's a
Speaker 4: lot of multiples and layers of these people that are
Speaker 4: just using this place as they're sandbox and you know,
Speaker 4: a place to recreationally either have dinner or you know,
Speaker 4: play golf or in my case, they play paddle, they
Speaker 4: play pickle, they play tennis. I mean, it's just a
Speaker 4: really a great location. And when you can hang with
Speaker 4: somebody for an extended period of time, it's like anything else.
Speaker 4: What do you do for living? What do you do
Speaker 4: for living? Oh, you're a landscape great, I want to
Speaker 4: do a patio. Will you help me? Sure? Let's get
Speaker 4: that guy he does mason work. Let's get this guy.
Speaker 4: That's how it works, and that's the way It works
Speaker 4: in every layer and decibel as you go higher and
Speaker 4: high or hire through where you want to go. You
Speaker 4: want to go to government, you want to go to
Speaker 4: Wall Street, you want to go. That's the way it
Speaker 4: is in the world. So yeah, I mean, it's just
Speaker 4: a shame if it gets out of control and people
Speaker 4: abuse it. But that's American read for you too. Like
Speaker 4: a whole other conversation.
Speaker 3: Okay, job, we're gonna we're gonna hit you with one
Speaker 3: that's uh, not a yes or no question. Really here
Speaker 3: it is. Did you know that there is a genuine
Speaker 3: conspiracy about glitter? Like arts and crafts glitter?
Speaker 4: I know the I know the bedazzle craze. You can.
Speaker 3: Though, well, uh, while back we found out that there's
Speaker 3: a genuine like we find conspiracies, actual ones all throughout
Speaker 3: the world, very different from the theories. And while back
Speaker 3: we learned that there is a massive conspiracy in the
Speaker 3: world of glitter and and Noel, do you want to
Speaker 3: you want to kick the facts?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one of our favorites. I mean, just the
Speaker 6: idea that you know, who's buying all the glitter. There's
Speaker 6: like a finite number of plants, let's call them our
Speaker 6: manufacturing interests that their job is to create different colors
Speaker 6: of glitter.
Speaker 5: This is like a thing.
Speaker 6: But they obviously are selling it to companies like Crayola
Speaker 6: that might make slime making kits or whatever. You know,
Speaker 6: Elmer is rather making these like glitter slime and whatever
Speaker 6: our arts and crafts of it all. But their top
Speaker 6: I think maybe two uh you know, I guess customers,
Speaker 6: let's call them clients, are secret, are.
Speaker 5: Very purposefully obscured.
Speaker 6: And these companies when you speak to like a rep
Speaker 6: of like some of the largest glitter manufacturers, they won't
Speaker 6: tell you who these customers are. So of course, you know,
Speaker 6: in a vacuum of information, Yeah, this stuff kind of thrives,
Speaker 6: you know, the speculation glitter.
Speaker 2: Most of the glitter is manufactured in Jersey, Jersey.
Speaker 5: And Jersey of course.
Speaker 6: You know, he made a face, but you know, And
Speaker 6: in looking into this, we discovered that there are a
Speaker 6: couple of options and most likely, uh, it is something
Speaker 6: to do with military and something a concept called micro taggants.
Speaker 6: That's basically like if you use a certain brand of taser,
Speaker 6: when you ploy that taser, it will leave behind these
Speaker 6: little traces that are basically like kind of tiny cuts
Speaker 6: of plastic. You can maybe call it more confetti than glitter,
Speaker 6: but it still comes from the same kind of operation.
Speaker 6: That way, you can figure out what the It's sort
Speaker 6: of like, you know, rifling on a gun barrel, so
Speaker 6: you can kind of do forensics to figure out where
Speaker 6: the bullet came from, so you can solve the crime.
Speaker 6: Only this is like solving the taste crime. So why
Speaker 6: there's there's a reason bringing this up?
Speaker 3: As you know, as Bath said, this is in Jersey
Speaker 3: and John, we know you're very busy, but we'd like
Speaker 3: to put you on the case. You know, in the
Speaker 3: country club of this podcast, we're hanging out and we're
Speaker 3: just we're just four guys and one of us happens
Speaker 3: to be from Jersey, so we're saying, hey, man, yeah,
Speaker 3: will be on the case. We're kidding this.
Speaker 2: I have one I have one real last question. It
Speaker 2: is aynesw Or no question. Did we go to the Moon?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Easy, you're not asking.
Speaker 4: You mean.
Speaker 3: We faked the footage of the moon landing. But for
Speaker 3: budget purposes, it was cheaper to go to the Moon
Speaker 3: and fake it.
Speaker 4: Got it.
Speaker 3: That's that's how it works. John, Thank you so much
Speaker 3: for coming on the show today. Uh, this is like
Speaker 3: we said at the top, this is a continuing conversation
Speaker 3: that started in Texas, and uh we're going to continue it. Uh,
Speaker 3: we're going to continue it in the future very much.
Speaker 3: Hopefully everybody check out the Johnny Drinks podcast. You already
Speaker 3: know about them on social media. There it is, Uh,
Speaker 3: look at that.
Speaker 4: This is I just got the This is a corehole
Speaker 4: beam bagne.
Speaker 3: You can also learn more on Johnny Drinks dot com. Uh,
Speaker 3: you can check out there's a we're talking about the
Speaker 3: origin story. There was an interview I quite liked on
Speaker 3: vuying pair dot com that talks a little bit about
Speaker 3: that legendary first video.
Speaker 4: Old that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Do check it out and tell us how the steaks are.
Speaker 3: Folks over there at tell Frisco. H John, Where can
Speaker 3: people learn? In addition, where can people learn more about
Speaker 3: you guys, your work, your upcoming projects and so on.
Speaker 4: I think the podcast is the best way because it's
Speaker 4: just long and form like this, we get to talk
Speaker 4: about it and the other stuff is just entertainment, right,
Speaker 4: it's the short little bursts. So, like you said, the
Speaker 4: instant gratification of the of the tiktoks and the YouTube
Speaker 4: a little longer. But yeah, listen, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4: This was excellent. I'd love to do it again. I'm
Speaker 4: going to find out what I can about glitter and
Speaker 4: I'm going to just continue. Maybe I could do it
Speaker 4: a drink with glitter. No, no, I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe's something will pop out of it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, we we missed seeing your son John and
Speaker 2: Uncle Steve. We're you know, we miss seeing those guys.
Speaker 4: So we'll get something. Well, thank you, I'll pass that along.
Speaker 3: See look at that. You know what I love about this,
Speaker 3: about this conspiracy quiz we do at the end, you guys,
Speaker 3: no matter who it is, every time, there's at least
Speaker 3: one thing right where they they don't don't buy the
Speaker 3: official narrative.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. You know. I am a little saddened
Speaker 2: we didn't get to talk to Johnny, I guess John's
Speaker 2: son for this episode, or Uncle Steve that we met
Speaker 2: a little while see. Oh, but it was great to
Speaker 2: talk with John and just to get a little bit
Speaker 2: of his backstory and hear his take on things. I
Speaker 2: think just his you know, his knowledge in the financial sector.
Speaker 2: And just the experience he's had there was really revealing,
Speaker 2: hopefully for all of us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of the stuff he has conveyed may
Speaker 3: indeed be prescient in some upcoming adventures of stuff they
Speaker 3: don't want you to know, especially the financial aspects. And
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