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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Nolan.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined, as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Max Freight Train Williams. Most importantly, you are here,

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Speaker 3: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 3: to know. It's a very special show for us today, folks.

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Speaker 3: We are examining a wide range of things in what

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Speaker 3: is part of a continuing conversation we started in Austin,

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Speaker 3: Texas some time ago. We're not diving into this alone, folks.

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Speaker 3: We are joined with the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 3: John Rondie Sr. Also known as to many of our listeners,

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Speaker 3: the creator of Johnny Drinks. Sir, thank you for coming

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Speaker 3: on the show today.

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Speaker 4: Oh come on, this is awesome. I love it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: I gotta say like the shadow boxing. It was a

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Speaker 6: good move there, and I like the risk whatever you

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Speaker 6: call those, the cuffs, the wrist.

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Speaker 5: I know you got something.

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Speaker 4: This is my Red Vanley Listen. I have the pleasure

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Speaker 4: luxury of being afforded a lot of swag.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought that was stuff we all get. How

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Speaker 5: can we didn't get that.

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Speaker 4: I'm in front of the camera a little more. Baby,

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Speaker 4: it works.

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Speaker 5: You're looking good, John.

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Speaker 6: We're glad to have me here today to talk about

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Speaker 6: I like you like Ben said a bit of a

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Speaker 6: grab bag episode today, which is great because we're going

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Speaker 6: into a long weekend.

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Speaker 5: Everybody likes a grab bag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, before we get started, though, let's talk about you, John,

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Speaker 2: who you are, what the Johnny Drinks podcast is in

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Speaker 2: Johnny Drinks in general, how it came to be, and

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Speaker 2: the fact that you've made this thing with your son,

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Speaker 2: which you know as a father, it's like one of

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Speaker 2: the coolest things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's well unbelievable that I get to

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Speaker 4: share the story, the message, the journey. Right, It's just

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Speaker 4: been something that came to us. The bottom line is,

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Speaker 4: my son and I didn't set out to do this. Right.

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Speaker 4: We literally filmed a video of me making a cocktail.

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Speaker 4: I made the cocktail, he videoed, it went viral. The rest,

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Speaker 4: as they will say, becomes the history of our journey.

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Speaker 4: Because after that first video, that was his first TikTok,

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Speaker 4: so think about this, takes his camera out, says, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to download the app, downloads the app. Videos in

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Speaker 4: the app me making a cock It goes over eight

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Speaker 4: million views, okay. And that next day he's like, we

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Speaker 4: got to do this again. I'm like, okay, what did

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Speaker 4: we do? So it's pre COVID February twenty twenty. Make

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Speaker 4: the cocktail, goes viral. Subsequent to that, do other videos,

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Speaker 4: and then the pandemic hits in like April, right, So

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Speaker 4: now we're in we're in lockdown, and everybody's doing what

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Speaker 4: they're doing, of course, and we just expand upon, you know,

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Speaker 4: taking up time and space and not driving each other

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Speaker 4: nuts and just having fun. And that's how it was born.

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Speaker 3: So you really did. You have continued to strike a

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Speaker 3: chord with people, not just on TikTok, but on any

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Speaker 3: number of social media platforms, including, as Matt mentioned, the

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Speaker 3: Johnny Drinks podcast. One of my favorite parts of the

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Speaker 3: Origin story, John is, uh, the way the way you

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Speaker 3: explained it, which is super humble. By the way, man

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Speaker 3: is Okay, we've we've made you make the cocktail, right,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you're you're making Manhattan's and after after you

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Speaker 3: make the Manhattan you're you're basically just doing it because

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Speaker 3: you're all going out to uh a steakhouse Del Frisco's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so my favorite part of this story is

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Speaker 3: the way I've read it in a couple of iterations,

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Speaker 3: is that you guys go and you're having dinner and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the phone goes nuts. Right, So

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Speaker 3: I really thought this was just something entertaining to do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen, I know. Yeah, I gave you the

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Speaker 4: and at dinner, Johnny's like that that videos doing really well.

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Speaker 4: My brother in law, who's fifty eight years old, we're

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Speaker 4: looking at you, Ollie, what are they talking about? It's

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about that revenue streams, right, Like, did

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Speaker 2: for I mean for anybody. It's pretty nuts.

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Speaker 4: I believe it. Matt ben Noel. If you guys heard

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Speaker 4: what I said to everybody the first let's say, six

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Speaker 4: This is such bs. This is like, you know, killing time,

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Speaker 4: but it's like, what are we doing. I actually made

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Speaker 4: I have a full time job in twenty twenty. I'm

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Speaker 4: in the mortgage business. I mean, in thirty two years,

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty. Everyone's refinancing, everyone's locked down. Okay, you might

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Speaker 3: You hit on some things that are really interesting on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And for many of us, like when this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, listen, I think and I'm on

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Speaker 4: But I believe things. So if you if you have

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Speaker 4: figure out who killed JFK. I'm all about let me

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Speaker 4: hear it because it's cool, right. But the more you

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Speaker 4: that conversation, everyone was contributing to it. There were and

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Speaker 4: always will be people in the financial world that will

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Speaker 4: take advantage of their position. Right, It's like us hanging out.

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Speaker 4: We hang out with each other. We're accountable excuse me

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Speaker 6: For sure, anytime we talk about secret societies or kind

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Speaker 6: of clandestine meetings. It usually boils down more to networking

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Speaker 6: you know, And it's the idea of how can you know,

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Speaker 6: we be the rising tide that carries all both as

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Speaker 6: long as you trying to eat my lunch, you know,

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Speaker 6: other wealthy influencing person, And that's who I'm talking to.

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Speaker 6: So it's a it is there. It is a conspiracy,

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Speaker 6: The term conspiracy is so loaded, but it really is

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Speaker 6: So I mean, the idea of a conspiracy isn't always

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I wonder about about mortgages in general,

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Speaker 2: and I wonder about buying homes right now. It's a

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Speaker 4: So there's it. I'm a simplify it. It's rent versus buying. Right,

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Speaker 2: Guys, I want to jump back to something we were

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Speaker 4: I don't really I think that's a slippery slope. I

433
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Speaker 4: think that's dangerous.

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Speaker 6: One that alcohol is a is a party two as well, Yeah.

435
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Speaker 3: I'm going caffeine. This is like my second monster.

436
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Speaker 6: Yeah, even the medications your doctors prescribe you're still taking it,

437
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 6: so you're self medicating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but you don't interesting

439
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: all about that, And again I don't. I guess this

440
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Speaker 4: is the part of anything as a vice, anything that's abused,

441
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: anything could be habitually uh and then become an addiction. Right,

442
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: this specific conversation about marijuana, let's say THC and you

443
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: know all the other options of gummies and the way

444
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Speaker 4: you want to enjoy, whether it's recreational or purposes of medicating.

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Speaker 4: I just I think there's this misnomer that, oh, it's

446
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Speaker 4: not addicting, that's the problem for me, because but it

447
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: is addicting, right, There's there's a strain of it addicting.

448
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Speaker 4: So so that for me would just be a reason

449
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Speaker 4: that maybe pump the brakes. It's so you know, what

450
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Speaker 4: we used to do or what my generation did younger

451
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Speaker 4: here and there, that marijuana is not the same today close, right,

452
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Speaker 4: So that's the dangerous.

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Speaker 6: Part I think is interesting, the idea of addiction to like,

454
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Speaker 6: there's there's different sides of it, there's different colors of it.

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Speaker 6: You can be addicted to driving a car really fast

456
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Speaker 6: because it's fun. It doesn't mean that you're physically dependent

457
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Speaker 6: on driving a car really fast. You just really like

458
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Speaker 6: doing it. So therefore you're going to go for a repeat,

459
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 6: you know, rinse and repeat, so you know. Well, I

460
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Speaker 6: don't think necessarily marijuana is like physically addictive. I think

461
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Speaker 6: people like it and it works for them, and maybe

462
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Speaker 6: some people like it a little too much and probably

463
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Speaker 6: use it a little too much. But I do think

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Speaker 6: there is science in that marijuana is not addictive in

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Speaker 6: the same way that heroin or cocaine are addictive.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't argue that,

467
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Speaker 4: but I say I don't know because I don't know.

468
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Speaker 4: What I see is. I'm thinking it is addicting, right,

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Speaker 4: And here's why. Every young person that I've gotten close to,

470
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Speaker 4: and this is one of the advantages I have, TikTok

471
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: dad and now this personality, right, I'm telling you, they

472
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Speaker 4: bring this to me. Which is just last perfect example,

473
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Speaker 4: just last night have people over. Young guys says to me,

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Speaker 4: he would you mind if I go smoke a little

475
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: bit outside? Okt Well, okay, cool. Later find out that anxiousness, anxiety,

476
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Speaker 4: you know, irritability, you know, it just helps me. It

477
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: helps me sleep, helps my appetite, help suppress helps.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, ritual is addictive too, Yeah yeah, right, yeah right.

479
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Speaker 4: So you know that's the part when again I say

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Speaker 4: to nine out of ten people in my world and

481
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Speaker 4: spear are offering this explanation to why they're doing it,

482
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm not even looking for it. I'm

483
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: not asking why you're doing it. I'm not I'm not doctor.

484
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Speaker 3: I'm kind of like proactively justifying, which is interesting.

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Speaker 2: So far, there's no prohibition on ads. So guess what

486
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Speaker 2: here they are. We'll be right.

487
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Speaker 3: Back and we're back with Johnny Drinks.

488
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Speaker 2: Guys. I want to jump to a mild addiction maybe

489
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Speaker 2: that I have that I think a lot of Americans have.

490
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Speaker 2: Reset In fact, yes, monster get out watching two highly

491
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Speaker 2: skilled people absolutely fight each other almost to the death

492
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Speaker 2: in an octagon or a ring or something like that.

493
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Speaker 2: You recently could because this actually ties back to like

494
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Speaker 2: Atlantic City and then Vegas and revenue streams. Right, You've

495
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: recently spoke with Dana White, president of the UFC, and

496
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Speaker 2: now you know entrepreneur does a whole bunch of things.

497
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Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by him and the fertida brothers and

498
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: that business and how it's grown. Fascinating conversation. If you're interested,

499
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: go listen to Johnny Drinks podcast and listen to that

500
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: episode with Dana White. Really good. He he talks about

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Speaker 2: something in there that want to ask you about john

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Speaker 2: This new thing he's got called power slap. I think

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Speaker 2: that's what it's called that. Look, guys to me, do

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Speaker 2: you guys know what this is? Power slaps?

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Speaker 4: He heard of? This?

506
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Speaker 5: Is this like an energy drink or no move? What

507
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Speaker 5: are we talking about?

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00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So you're aware of the UFC, right, uh MMA, fighters

510
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: too and a raw.

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Speaker 3: I don't I know what power slap is?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I surprise, No, I don't know. I'm not being

513
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 5: It's okay.

514
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.

515
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: It's such a big old slap.

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00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: I got that, okay, Okay, okay.

517
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Speaker 2: So it's two human beings standing across from each other

518
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Speaker 2: at about arm's length, and literally you take turns slapping

519
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: the other person as hard as you possibly can, and

520
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: it's a it's a war of attrition. Whichever person either

521
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Speaker 2: gets knocked out.

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Speaker 5: And you know this, it's an event a jew itself.

523
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: It's like a micro event basically like it's.

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Speaker 3: It's the world's premiere slap fighting promotion.

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Speaker 5: Got it? Got it?

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Speaker 2: Well, it just makes me think about again social media, right,

527
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: and we've become so accustomed to like short video chemicks.

528
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: We get our attention can latch onto something for just

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Speaker 2: a moment, then it's got to go away. This feels

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Speaker 2: like the UFC's answer to rather than three rounds, you know,

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Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes each, you get just some

532
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Speaker 2: slaps and then it's done and you're good to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, just what do you what do you?

534
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, instant gratification. I said that Dana White. You know,

536
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Speaker 4: I watched the reels and the shorts, not even knowing

537
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: until we sat down with him his investment major into this.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know all that, right, I

539
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: just I watched it and like you, oh my god.

540
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: You go to the next video, and then some girls

541
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: jumping up and down, and you go to next video

542
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: some guys making a cocktail. So it's like you just

543
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: keep going and and you know, in that conversation, he

544
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: said that they have more eyeballs on that right now

545
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: and views more than all professional sports put together. That's

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Speaker 4: mean to me, is he said, he goes. You have

547
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Speaker 4: to really let that sink in a little bit, the

548
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Speaker 4: magnitude of how popular it is, and and that he's

549
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: just obviously super excited because he's creating this whole venue

550
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: now for it. But yeah, to your point, listen to

551
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: the podcast. You got to you got to hear him

552
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: dive into it. He's so easy to talk to it

553
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: and he's so good with us. I'm humbled and value

554
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: his friendship now because he's he likes us and we

555
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: like him. And it's been you know, three years since

556
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: I first met him, and he's just shared with us

557
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: what he can and is as real as what you

558
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: think you you get with him. You know, what you

559
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Speaker 4: see is what you get. He's that guy. He'll tell

560
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 4: you if he doesn't like it, I'll tell you sorry.

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Speaker 6: I'll just watching a clip show of like I guess

562
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Speaker 6: the trailer for the new season of this thing, and.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty jaw dropping.

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Speaker 6: I like that the powder their hands up so you

565
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Speaker 6: get a nice explosion like Chuck, and.

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Speaker 3: It's it's they know what they're doing too. There's there

567
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: are a couple where you see where you see guys

568
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Speaker 3: obviously get clocked and they deep six to the ground.

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Speaker 3: But but so like with this, this brings us to

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Speaker 3: another thing. Matt brought up the point of so I

571
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Speaker 3: often call social media as our show is very very

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Speaker 3: active on it, I have to call social media kind

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Speaker 3: of the dopamine casino.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And we know that they're because you know, like you said,

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Speaker 3: it's the instant gratification. Every body of the Brownie is

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Speaker 3: the corner piece right on social media. So the the

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Speaker 3: the one thing I want to ask is there's been

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Speaker 3: a lot of scuttle but a lot of discourse and

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Speaker 3: debate about social media and its short form social media

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Speaker 3: in particular, uh, and possible effects on kids or younger

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Speaker 3: folks in their formative years. What what do you think

583
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Speaker 3: about that? And I know we're like we'd shows that

584
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: our show is okay on social media. Your empire is

585
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: incredibly accomplished there. And I to me, Johnny Drinks feels

586
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: smart and wholesome, right cool and sincerity. Yeah yeah, but.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, And I want I want you to expand

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Speaker 4: upon that because before I answer your question, where you're

589
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Speaker 4: going with it? And not to cut you off, but

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00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: tell me, what what do you what do you think

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00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: our brand is tell me what your your impression is

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00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: and then finished that thought about the question. Then I'm

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Speaker 4: going to yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: And our answers, all three of our answers may differ here.

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00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: But for me, what I see is this is a

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Speaker 3: cool family. That's what I mean. Why I say it's

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Speaker 3: wholesome right. The first thing is, look at this a

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Speaker 3: family that actually likes hanging out with each other, which

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't have, if we're being completely candid.

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Speaker 3: And then there's also this what I My favorite kind

601
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Speaker 3: of way to communicate education, to educate people is approachable,

602
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: entertaining stuff like hey, we're not necessarily experts, but learn

603
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: together with us.

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Speaker 5: This is cool.

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00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: Here's the trick I know. So there's nothing condescending there,

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: and condescension I think is a great enemy of education.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 4: Good point, all right, cool, all right, So you know

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Speaker 4: your question around and thanks for sharing the thoughts because

610
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: that matters. And to answer, where we fit in to society? Right?

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00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: Where this digital playing you know, playground tiktoks, shorts, all

612
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: this blast of of some of it being just right.

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Speaker 4: The thing that motivates me is I get a chance

614
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Speaker 4: to educate. I get a chance to be realistic. Right.

615
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: I'm not a professional bartender, I'm not a mixologist. I'm

616
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Speaker 4: a home tender. I'm a father, I'm a husband. I

617
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: don't get everything right. And you know, it's okay if

618
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Speaker 4: you point out that I did something differently or not

619
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: by the textbook. But I don't care because the drink

620
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: still tastes good. My family still loves me. Right, and

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Speaker 4: I wake up with a purpose and I go to

622
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Speaker 4: at a night putting closure to things. So there's this continual,

623
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Speaker 4: really gift of an opportunity having conversations like this, meeting

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Speaker 4: with young people and talking to old people about the

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00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: same subject matter, and knowing whatever small little role I

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Speaker 4: have in social media as it relates to the impressionable

627
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Speaker 4: younger generation. I'm good with. I'm doing my part. You know.

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Speaker 4: The misnomer here is but it's alcohol. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 4: teaching young people drink. I didn't even think about that,

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Speaker 4: No I'm not. Yeah, No, well that's the This is

631
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Speaker 4: so very very again poignant for me. When my son

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Speaker 4: said we're gonna do these videos. We gotta keep going millions,

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Speaker 4: I might, and he says, Johnny drinks I'm like, why

634
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Speaker 4: are you gonna call Johnny Drinks? He goes, because you're John,

635
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: I'm John, We're Johnny and we're drinking. I'm like, okay, whatever.

636
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: I didn't like the name I got to be I

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Speaker 4: still to this day, and I said to him, can

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Speaker 4: you find another name? Like, why is it going to

639
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Speaker 4: be Johnny Drinks? Ps. The reason I didn't like it

640
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: is because of the association of me being a drinker.

641
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Speaker 4: I'm not a big drinker. I drink more now than

642
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Speaker 4: I ever did. And that's also on one of our podcasts,

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Speaker 4: If you Wait, my son had my wife on as

644
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Speaker 4: a guest, so it's it's Mama Rondy and that was

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Speaker 4: a good episode for a lot of reasons. Actually, she's second,

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Speaker 4: I think in views behind Dana White. So she's got

647
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: He's got like thirty thousand views on the YouTube pod

648
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 4: and she's got like two and a half thousand, two

649
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: point five. But anyway, my point is, you know, we

650
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 4: talk about that and that episode that I didn't drink

651
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 4: in high school. I didn't drink in college. I started

652
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: to drink and experiment with drinking when I really joined

653
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: a country club here that I play golf, ats that

654
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: was like twenty years ago. So when my son says

655
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: we're going to be Johnny Drinks, I'm like, find another name, right,

656
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: Because I was very I'm in the finance world. I

657
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: was always concerned about image. Takes you takes your lifetime

658
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 4: to build and create your image, and takes maybe seconds

659
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 4: to lose it, your reputation. It can go like that

660
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 4: you do something wrong. So I'm really mindful of what

661
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: Johnny Drinks brings to, especially the younger people. So any

662
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: opportunity I get to drop some knowledge how to shine

663
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: a shoe, how to make a tie, how to make

664
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: your bed, how to how to how to how to

665
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: jump start your car, you know, whatever it is, I

666
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: relish it.

667
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: I love that man, because we're old school. Back before

668
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: the the idea of podcasts became a thing. We started

669
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: off at a company called how Stuff Works, and it

670
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: was just the the perfect job for people like yeah,

671
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: for people to start sentences with actually at parties, you know, uh,

672
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: and people who know too much weird trivia. So you know,

673
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: the idea we've always had is world is both understandable

674
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: and worth understanding. So that's really meaningful. I'm sorry. I

675
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 3: know I should be asking a question. But I'm just now.

676
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: This is great.

677
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: All right, So we're gonna we are going to take

678
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: a huge left turn. Guys, you ready for this?

679
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: Well?

680
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Is it okay?

681
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: John?

682
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: You grew up in Jersey? Are you still do you

683
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: still live in New Jersey?

684
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

685
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: Okay. Have you seen the Jersey Devil?

686
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 4: Oh? Well, well there's when you say, that's so funny,

687
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: the Jersey Devil. No, I haven't seen the Yo Jersey Devil.

688
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: You probably were exposed to more talk about it than

689
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 5: we would.

690
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what crosses my mind you say

691
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 4: that is the New Jersey Devil's mascot, the Jersey Devil.

692
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: So I see it with the credential center any hockey game.

693
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: But no, I haven't been the afford to the luxury

694
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: of seeing the Jersey Devil.

695
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: Let's let's go to it. Let's do Uh. There's a

696
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: thing that we like to do. And our fellow conspiracy

697
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: realist in the audience always love to play this game

698
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: with guests of notes like yourself, sir. We typically about

699
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten when we're in an awesome

700
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 3: conversation like this, our guests will say, you know, I'm

701
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: not I don't consider myself like a conspiracy person, and

702
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: most people do and honestly should not. So what we

703
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: do find is that pretty much ten times out of

704
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: ten there's something that people find some sand too. And

705
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 3: that's why we like to play a little round robin

706
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: conspiracy true or false quiz. So we're gonna, yeah, we're

707
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: gonna fire some stuff at just yes or no? Where

708
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: do you think let's go with the one you started with,

709
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: which is part of why we play the state. What

710
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: do you think about the jfk assassination.

711
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 4: I think there were many organizations involved. I don't think

712
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 4: any one of them could have pulled it off without

713
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: the help of another. Kay Cia, the mafia. I mean,

714
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: we know, we know who the Patsy was. I mean,

715
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: come on, he ballistics and tests and all that stuff

716
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: I think prove it's almost impossible for Lee Harvey Oswald

717
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: in the school Book Depository, out the window in a movie.

718
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't think that's real, right, I don't

719
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: think that he did that on his own. The Zapruder film,

720
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: the angles, the sounds that people heard on the Grassy Knoll,

721
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: and the law on it. Come on. So that's a

722
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: shame that it's a shame that all the what happened

723
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: to all the archives of documents and you know the

724
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: medical examiner such a.

725
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy how Lee Harvey Oswald on one day became

726
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: a much better marksman than he had been at any

727
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: other moment for the entirety of his life.

728
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 5: That bullet split in half. That's a superpower.

729
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, And let's not forget our friend Jack Ruby

730
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: that that work. Yeah, come on in.

731
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: Man, that's actually there was the where was the metal detectors?

732
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: Then?

733
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 5: Guys?

734
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, that's that's that's one of

735
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: my favorite ones. I've actually been to the school book Depository.

736
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: Just as I was there, I was like, wow, this

737
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: this is almost I don't know how you could have

738
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: did this? So pretty cool.

739
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: All right, well let's go let's go to one that's huge.

740
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: It's like big picture and I don't want to go

741
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: religious with this, John, So let's steer clear from a religion,

742
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: just more philosophical. Okay, what happens when we die? It

743
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: just in your a in where you are right now,

744
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: like where do you think?

745
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: Well, when we die, life is over and you know

746
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: your body, putting religion aside your soul, you go back

747
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: to Earth. It's the recycling process. So physically things become

748
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: what they need to be. Spiritually, I believe I'm going

749
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: to heaven, and I think that everyone has their own

750
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 4: version of that. Well.

751
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 6: It is interesting how like, I mean, every every kind

752
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 6: of religious ideology is describing something that is, you know,

753
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 6: somewhat understandable without religion, you know what I mean. You can,

754
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: like if we look at it all as like energy transfer,

755
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 6: you know, let's just look at it the most basic science.

756
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 6: See cannot science fiction a science y way, Like everything

757
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 6: energy has to go somewhere. Whatever is in us that

758
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 6: makes us, you know, what we are is some form

759
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 6: of energy, whether that dissipates back into you know, in

760
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 6: the form of heat for example, or just in the

761
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 6: form of like it goes back into the earth. We

762
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 6: know that our bodies, uh if you know, not completely

763
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 6: embalmed and put in a weird casket. Okay, that's some

764
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 6: letting my own biases show there, you know, go back

765
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 6: to the Earth and could conceivably become part of that

766
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: cycle of like decay and creation that is life, you know,

767
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 6: And I think that's cool, and it's a little annoying

768
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 6: to me. They make it really hard to just do

769
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 6: that naturally, and then you have to get like special

770
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 6: permission and all this stuff. I think involving is kind

771
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 6: of duelish, you know, and it's sort of counter to

772
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 6: this whole thing. But whatever a soul is, you know,

773
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 6: it's some form of energy, and I think it dissipates.

774
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 6: And if there are you know, traces of things, whether

775
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 6: it be like memories or the idea of hauntings, I

776
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 6: think that's just remnants of energy that kind of you know,

777
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 6: fill up a place where a lot of things have happened,

778
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 6: a lot of people have passed, for example.

779
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, like the the idea of energy is still

780
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there are several forms of energy there's still

781
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: not understood by modern science.

782
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: I think.

783
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: For I let me be careful. I don't want to

784
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: just talk about my personal beliefs here. But maybe a

785
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: good analogy would be a song you hear, a song

786
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: that you really enjoy, and the notes in there, the

787
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: E sharp or what have you, they the concept of

788
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: them does not this appear, you know, So there's there's

789
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: a there's a there's an interesting thing there if we

790
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: took it more more stuff they want you to know,

791
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 3: picking up on what you were saying, nol. However, we

792
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: define that kind of stuff, some sort of persistence of energy,

793
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 3: if such exists. Have you do you feel like you've

794
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: ever had something that might be considered a paranormal encounter,

795
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: like a vision of a ghost or some kind of

796
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: entity that that at least you couldn't explain.

797
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: So no, oh yes maybe, Uh here's why.

798
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 5: It sounds like, here's why.

799
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: Here's why. Personally, firsthand, my eyeballs, uh, my body, you know,

800
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: movements and no. But my wife and my friends, yes,

801
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 4: So through them, I believe that I believe that those

802
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 4: things exist. My wife and my friend are certain, and

803
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: they've given specific examples and times where it's occurred. So

804
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: I'm again, I'm an easy guy to kind of sell to, right,

805
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: I said it earlier, like, give me some facts. I'll

806
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: listen and give me some so I believe them, And

807
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 4: so why why don't I just I'm not going to

808
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 4: discount that at all. There's those whole sorts of energy

809
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: forms out there.

810
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: It's like you you know, it's it's similar to the argument,

811
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: I mean, this is imperfect, but it's similar to saying

812
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: I've never been to Australia but but I know pe

813
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: like I trust the people who have right.

814
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

815
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but does the water go the opposite way?

816
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's one of It's on my bucket list. Man,

817
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: I'm going to be I'm going to be in the lane. Yeah,

818
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: you're in the plane. When we cross over, I'm gonna

819
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: flush and yeah, we'll figure out.

820
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 4: I've heard people say that's not true, that's that's falls.

821
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: And what if you flush right when you're getting to

822
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: the crossover point?

823
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: Is that's what I say, that.

824
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 5: Flushing the water because it's the turning point.

825
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: Okay, while we're on the Parado one more, there is

826
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: a quick one extraterrestrials visiting Earth, however defined.

827
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I'm thinking I'm thinking area fifty one. I'm thinking,

828
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. That's a tough one for me. Again,

829
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: I would say, yes, there is, but I'm not gonna

830
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: go talking about it or go intently looking for it

831
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: and and listening to Again, you bring someone in front

832
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: of me that can give me some information, maybe factual

833
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: and substantial. I want to hear about it, so I

834
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: will ever say no, I won't say never.

835
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: Show me the alien says John, Yeah, I'm by the call.

836
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want just a lump of a

837
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: pile of mashed potatoes that you form into you know,

838
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: this this extra you know thing that you believe, you

839
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: know from the universe.

840
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he busted us. Yeah, it is a pile

841
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: of mashed potatoes.

842
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: I got one last one, I promise. Okay, So you've

843
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: had all this experience in the financial sector and you've

844
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: you've dealt with you know, you yourself are a very

845
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: important person in that world, and you've dealt with a

846
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: lot of important people in that world. There is often

847
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: this conception that the most wealthy and powerful people in

848
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: the world do work together and they have they get

849
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: in these groups like we talked about, like the Illuminati,

850
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: and there's a real fear maybe of that or maybe

851
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: a fascination with that concept in the public. Just I mean,

852
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: if you were a part of the Illuminati, you couldn't

853
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: tell us John, And that's fine. But what I mean is, like,

854
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: do you ever oh, okay, we got that, guys. No,

855
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm just but like have you you're talking about country

856
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: club Often I think about country clubs of the world

857
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: as being the closest thing to like an illuminati, because

858
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: it's just people who you know, get together and hang

859
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: out and they're often influential people. Yeah, do you like,

860
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: have you seen anything like that where it's just like, Wow,

861
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: this feels a little off or does it? What do

862
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Speaker 2: you what do you think?

863
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: Well? I think so the word country club has this stereotype.

864
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: Every time I say country club, I think I think

865
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: it's blue bloods with scarves and mucking it up. And

866
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: if you saw the guys that hang around with at

867
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: my country club, first of all, you wouldn't believe it.

868
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: These guys are having way too much fun, and it

869
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: doesn't it just doesn't add up. The optics of it

870
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: just don't add up because it's just a group of

871
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: guys self in my case, self made guys. These aren't

872
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 4: This is not generational wealth that's handed down. And you know,

873
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 4: I didn't grow up at a country club. My father,

874
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: blue collar, worked thirty years in American airlines, made fifty

875
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. I think at its highest point, right his

876
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: highest incum maybe been sixty thousand dollars. The point is,

877
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 4: this is just a group of guys and found this

878
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: convenience in our backyard, in our sandbox here in the

879
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: town and the community we live in. And when I

880
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: tell you, and I'm going to kind of I don't

881
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: know if I'm getting off subject here, but so that

882
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: country club. You can belong to a country club for

883
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars. Okay, that's a lot of money, but

884
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 4: it's not like it's five hundred thousand dollars for only

885
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 4: the affluent, wealthy, wealthy wealthy. Okay. So to back to

886
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 4: your kind of your question, Matt, is you know, so

887
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 4: here we are a group of guys and there's a

888
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: lot of multiples and layers of these people that are

889
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 4: just using this place as they're sandbox and you know,

890
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: a place to recreationally either have dinner or you know,

891
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: play golf or in my case, they play paddle, they

892
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: play pickle, they play tennis. I mean, it's just a

893
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: really a great location. And when you can hang with

894
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: somebody for an extended period of time, it's like anything else.

895
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: What do you do for living? What do you do

896
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: for living? Oh, you're a landscape great, I want to

897
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 4: do a patio. Will you help me? Sure? Let's get

898
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: that guy he does mason work. Let's get this guy.

899
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 4: That's how it works, and that's the way It works

900
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: in every layer and decibel as you go higher and

901
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: high or hire through where you want to go. You

902
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: want to go to government, you want to go to

903
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: Wall Street, you want to go. That's the way it

904
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: is in the world. So yeah, I mean, it's just

905
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: a shame if it gets out of control and people

906
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 4: abuse it. But that's American read for you too. Like

907
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: a whole other conversation.

908
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: Okay, job, we're gonna we're gonna hit you with one

909
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 3: that's uh, not a yes or no question. Really here

910
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: it is. Did you know that there is a genuine

911
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 3: conspiracy about glitter? Like arts and crafts glitter?

912
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 4: I know the I know the bedazzle craze. You can.

913
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: Though, well, uh, while back we found out that there's

914
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: a genuine like we find conspiracies, actual ones all throughout

915
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: the world, very different from the theories. And while back

916
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: we learned that there is a massive conspiracy in the

917
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: world of glitter and and Noel, do you want to

918
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: you want to kick the facts?

919
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one of our favorites. I mean, just the

920
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 6: idea that you know, who's buying all the glitter. There's

921
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 6: like a finite number of plants, let's call them our

922
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 6: manufacturing interests that their job is to create different colors

923
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 6: of glitter.

924
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 5: This is like a thing.

925
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 6: But they obviously are selling it to companies like Crayola

926
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 6: that might make slime making kits or whatever. You know,

927
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: Elmer is rather making these like glitter slime and whatever

928
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 6: our arts and crafts of it all. But their top

929
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: I think maybe two uh you know, I guess customers,

930
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 6: let's call them clients, are secret, are.

931
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 5: Very purposefully obscured.

932
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 6: And these companies when you speak to like a rep

933
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 6: of like some of the largest glitter manufacturers, they won't

934
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 6: tell you who these customers are. So of course, you know,

935
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 6: in a vacuum of information, Yeah, this stuff kind of thrives,

936
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 6: you know, the speculation glitter.

937
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: Most of the glitter is manufactured in Jersey, Jersey.

938
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 5: And Jersey of course.

939
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 6: You know, he made a face, but you know, And

940
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 6: in looking into this, we discovered that there are a

941
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 6: couple of options and most likely, uh, it is something

942
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 6: to do with military and something a concept called micro taggants.

943
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 6: That's basically like if you use a certain brand of taser,

944
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 6: when you ploy that taser, it will leave behind these

945
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 6: little traces that are basically like kind of tiny cuts

946
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 6: of plastic. You can maybe call it more confetti than glitter,

947
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 6: but it still comes from the same kind of operation.

948
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 6: That way, you can figure out what the It's sort

949
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 6: of like, you know, rifling on a gun barrel, so

950
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 6: you can kind of do forensics to figure out where

951
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 6: the bullet came from, so you can solve the crime.

952
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 6: Only this is like solving the taste crime. So why

953
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 6: there's there's a reason bringing this up?

954
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: As you know, as Bath said, this is in Jersey

955
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: and John, we know you're very busy, but we'd like

956
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: to put you on the case. You know, in the

957
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: country club of this podcast, we're hanging out and we're

958
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: just we're just four guys and one of us happens

959
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: to be from Jersey, so we're saying, hey, man, yeah,

960
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: will be on the case. We're kidding this.

961
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: I have one I have one real last question. It

962
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: is aynesw Or no question. Did we go to the Moon?

963
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Yes?

964
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Easy, you're not asking.

965
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 4: You mean.

966
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: We faked the footage of the moon landing. But for

967
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: budget purposes, it was cheaper to go to the Moon

968
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: and fake it.

969
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: Got it.

970
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: That's that's how it works. John, Thank you so much

971
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: for coming on the show today. Uh, this is like

972
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: we said at the top, this is a continuing conversation

973
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: that started in Texas, and uh we're going to continue it. Uh,

974
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: we're going to continue it in the future very much.

975
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: Hopefully everybody check out the Johnny Drinks podcast. You already

976
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: know about them on social media. There it is, Uh,

977
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: look at that.

978
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: This is I just got the This is a corehole

979
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: beam bagne.

980
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: You can also learn more on Johnny Drinks dot com. Uh,

981
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: you can check out there's a we're talking about the

982
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: origin story. There was an interview I quite liked on

983
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: vuying pair dot com that talks a little bit about

984
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: that legendary first video.

985
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: Old that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

986
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 3: Do check it out and tell us how the steaks are.

987
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: Folks over there at tell Frisco. H John, Where can

988
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 3: people learn? In addition, where can people learn more about

989
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: you guys, your work, your upcoming projects and so on.

990
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: I think the podcast is the best way because it's

991
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: just long and form like this, we get to talk

992
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: about it and the other stuff is just entertainment, right,

993
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: it's the short little bursts. So, like you said, the

994
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: instant gratification of the of the tiktoks and the YouTube

995
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 4: a little longer. But yeah, listen, I appreciate you guys.

996
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: This was excellent. I'd love to do it again. I'm

997
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: going to find out what I can about glitter and

998
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm going to just continue. Maybe I could do it

999
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: a drink with glitter. No, no, I just I don't know.

1000
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: Maybe's something will pop out of it. I don't know.

1001
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, hey, we we missed seeing your son John and

1002
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Uncle Steve. We're you know, we miss seeing those guys.

1003
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 4: So we'll get something. Well, thank you, I'll pass that along.

1004
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: See look at that. You know what I love about this,

1005
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: about this conspiracy quiz we do at the end, you guys,

1006
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: no matter who it is, every time, there's at least

1007
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: one thing right where they they don't don't buy the

1008
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: official narrative.

1009
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely. You know. I am a little saddened

1010
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: we didn't get to talk to Johnny, I guess John's

1011
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: son for this episode, or Uncle Steve that we met

1012
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: a little while see. Oh, but it was great to

1013
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: talk with John and just to get a little bit

1014
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: of his backstory and hear his take on things. I

1015
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: think just his you know, his knowledge in the financial sector.

1016
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: And just the experience he's had there was really revealing,

1017
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: hopefully for all of us.

1018
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of the stuff he has conveyed may

1019
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: indeed be prescient in some upcoming adventures of stuff they

1020
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: don't want you to know, especially the financial aspects. And

1021
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what we should do. Let's

1022
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 3: just tell everybody how to get in contact with us.

1023
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: If you know what really went down with the JFK

1024
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: assassination and you have been holding off because you just

1025
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: haven't found the right people to talk with about it,

1026
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Speaker 3: we can't wait to hear from you. We try to

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1028
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Speaker 3: got a pretty awesome YouTube channel. Still, let's see that's

1029
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: conspiracy stuff show on Instagram, conspiracy stuff on YouTube. And hey,

1030
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1031
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1032
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