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A little nostrk Mario Weis 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: and Bucky Brooks you can now, According. 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: To the NFL, Manti Brolanhos just said it as long 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: as you bring it yourself, bring that nose talk on. 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: It's a nose talk party. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: Baby nose, ma wife's and Bucky Brooks failing it for 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 4: Rob Parker Calvin Washington on The Odd Couple. 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: No, it's talk. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: According to chat, GPT is the most popular smelling salt 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: brand used in the NFL. And I will have some 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: in two days because two day shipping is wonderful. I 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: am now fascinated. 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Now, did you 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: see these comments Bucky by Bill's general manager Brandon Bean 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: in reference to the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, he said, quote, 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: it's a play here or a play there. We're close, 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: but we can't just prepare the team to beat the Chiefs. 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: There are a lot of good teams in the AFC. 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: I don't think we're far away. We just have to 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: make a stop here or there. We haven't made the 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: stop we needed. We haven't made the stop when we 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 4: needed to make them. We feel like we've upgraded our 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: defense for that reason. We have to get the key stops. 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks, your thoughts on Brandon Bean and his team 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: building philosophy. 46 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 5: Look, I agree with him. 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 6: He can't solely beat the team build the team to 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: beat the Kansaity Chiefs the way that it operates normally 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 6: in the National Football League. You build your team to 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 6: win a division, and then you keep in mind the 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 6: heavyweights that you know you may see in the conference 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 6: or in the other conference. So while he can't specifically 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 6: build the team to beat the Can's City Chiefs, he 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 6: must be aware of what is going to take to 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 6: knock them off. But look, man, the Chiefs have been 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 6: their boogeyman. They have just not been able to knock 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 6: them off. Despite having teams that were good enough to 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 6: beat them, they just haven't been able to get it done. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 6: And they can change the personnel and do all the 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 6: other stuff, but to me, it's far more mental than 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 6: anything else when it comes to dealing with them. They 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 6: have to understand how to take them in the deep onone, 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 6: knock them out. They beat them at the recor seat, 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 6: and they just in the postseas they haven't been able 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: to do it. 66 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: And it's a lot of you know, Chris Jones pushes 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: Dion Dawkins back into Josh Allen and he overthrows digs 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: on what would have been the touchdown or that age. 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: He's right that they are close, and I ultimately do 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: agree with him. I also just kind of wonder, you know, 71 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: I just wonder when he kind of like decided this 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: was the way he was going to go about this, 73 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: or if this is a hymn thing, if the whole 74 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: team and I promise I'll land the plane. Because here's 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: the rub. The Chiefs sure have had a stranglehold over 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: the AFC over the last what four years? Yeah, for 77 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: the last or five to last six Super Bowls, right 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: with us Joe Burrow sneaking in in between. So I 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: get why somebody would say the Chiefs have knocked us 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: out of the playoffs every year. But the reality is 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 4: the Chiefs were knocking anybody out of the AFC playoffs 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: those years, right, you know what I'm saying. If you 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: just play it out that way, you know, say they 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: were gonna knock whoever. 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: They saw out. 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: You have to build a team, and you have to 87 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: have a strategy of team building. In my opinion, that's 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: going to win you most football games. 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: Right. 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: You have to be able to say, more often than not, 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: if I implement this strategy, I will win. And I 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: think the number one quick essential example of that in 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: recent memory is the Philadelphia Eagles days. We are running 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: the ball. We do not want our quarterback to throw 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: the ball over thirty times, whether you like it or not, 96 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: whether you. 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Think he's top five or not. 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: We think he's top one, and we're gonna keep saying that, 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: but we don't want him to throw the ball thirty times. Yeah, 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: despite not throwing the ball thirty times, we are going 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 4: to pay our wide receivers because we need them. We 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: are going to pay our running backs because we need them. 103 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: On the defensive side of the ball, now, that's. 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Where we might be able to do a little bargain Ben. 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: Shopping, Zach Bond, You're on one of the worst teams 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: in the NFL as a special teamer. You know what, 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: come on down company, All pro starting linebacker for us, right, 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and then drafting well, of course, 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, there has been 110 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: a run on white kids named Cooper in their twenties now, 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: but they found one of them, put him at cornerback. 112 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: And then Quinnion Mitchell from Toledo. Those guys are first 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: year players making huge bom Pick six is in the 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, right, they clearly have a strategy and a 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: thought process. 116 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: This is how we are going to win more games 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: than not. 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 4: And I don't think that changed when they were nine 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: to one and then lost ten games in a row 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: or whatever it was to then be bounced out in 121 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 4: the playoffs in the first round the year in between 122 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 4: the two Super Bowl berth But it just shows you. 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: To me, that's their strategy and to me, Buffalo, that's 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: why I wonder when they got this, because yeah, I 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: agree with you, Brandon Bean. You should build a team 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: that stands on its own. You should be like, sure, 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: Borrow still leaving, but do your own thing, put your 128 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: own spin on it. But I wonder if this is 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: a recent relevation because you have Josh Allen, a quarterback, 130 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: the raining MVP in the NFL, and in the AFC 131 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: Championship game he went oh for however many on however 132 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: many twist pushes in a row, a play that you 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: didn't do that the Eagles do all the time. It 134 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: works well, and you lost that game. Essentially, I just 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: say lost a lot of winning. What is the winning 136 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: probability in that game by deciding not to have your 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: own short yardage thing with your own special guy. 138 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, but everything is different, right. So that works for 139 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 6: Philadelphia partially because you have a quarterback that dead lifts 140 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 6: six hundred pounds and so everyone else is struggling doing 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 6: the quarterback sneak push push, But the Philadelphia Eagles are 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: uniquely qualified to be able to do it because the 143 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: special qualities are a quarterback and maybe the best offensive 144 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 6: line in football. The Buffalo Bills are on the right 145 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 6: track because they're always in the conversation and it's very 146 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 6: difficult to look crack the code to make it to 147 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl appearance. The can City Chiefs have been different. 148 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: I mean you talk about five appearances, three wins, whatever, 149 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 6: all those things that they've been able to accomplish in 150 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 6: this run terrific. But if the Buffalo Bills build their 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 6: team specifically to be the kan City Chiefs, and what 152 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 6: if the Chiefs are not talk about the Baltimore Ravens, 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 6: it is stylistically they're different what you need because what 154 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: you need to defend the Baltimore Ravens, that physical running game, 155 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, whatever, is not necessarily the same thing that 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: you need to be the kN City Chiefs. So and 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 6: Brandon Bean talks about I got to worry about some 158 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 6: other teams. He does have to have consideration. We got 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 6: to be able to stop the run. We need to 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 6: be able to have pastors to get after the quarterback. 161 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 6: We need to have some coverage guys, and all these 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 6: other things. So he's saying it in a nuanced way. Yes, 163 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 6: the King City Chiefs are in mind, but I also 164 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: have to be ready for anybody else as emerges as 165 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: a heavyweight contender this year. 166 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: And that's why I think that if you are building 167 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: your team with Kansas City and mind that that's shortsighted. Yes, 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: like it's it is very I get it that he 169 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: keep that the Boogeyman keeps coming. 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: But you got to. 171 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: Protect against everybody because Freddy Krueger might be next door, 172 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: you know what I And especially it's specially in the AFC, boy, 173 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: because I mean, it seems to me at this point 174 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: that there is pretty much one thing that all football 175 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: fans agree on, us the top four quarterbacks in the NFL, 176 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: the elites, Yeah, you know, the tier one the rushmore 177 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: right now, right now, that seems to be a consensus 178 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: across the board. 179 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: To make sure. It just makes you real on the 180 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: same thing. So your four would be. 181 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: My four would be Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 182 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: and Joe Burrow. 183 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 5: Okay, cool, that's everyone. Okay, we're here on that. 184 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: We can't agree with a lot as a country right now, 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 4: but we can That's something. It feels like we all 186 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: got square. 187 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: That that is where the lion falls off. 188 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 6: And you know, like there's a lot of controversy when 189 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurst wasn't including in the top ten and people 190 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 6: talking to top five whatever. But that Mount Rushmore that 191 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 6: you speak to, I'm with you on that. And the 192 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 6: only one that I would say is bumping up against 193 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 6: that that I would expect to start chiseling his face 194 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: out would be the kid in Washington that is Jalen. 195 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we gotta he's got it. There's there's there's still. 196 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: But I say, look, if this is a concert, Jade 197 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: and Daniels had a great first two songs. 198 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 5: Oh my god, he's only he's only had two songs. 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: I'm not Hey, we only we only been there for 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: ten minutes, So I'm not saying it's a bad thing. 201 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm just saying we got a lot more we talked. 202 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: We talk about because we do this a lot, buck, Yes, 203 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: and I get it because it's exciting. Because it's exciting 204 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: and we see these guys who are just crazy athletes. 205 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: We watched. 206 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: Man, I'll never forget this, you know, I'll never forget 207 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: it because I lost the bet. And it was also 208 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: one of Matt Eberflush's three road winds in his career. 209 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: But when Justin Fields on that Thursday night football game 210 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: was running around on Bill Belichick's Patriot defense, I remember 211 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: the next day on Friday, people coming on and said, 212 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: just Justin Fields the best running quarterback in the NFL. 213 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I understand where you're. 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: You're coming from this. Look I saw you a little 215 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: scout though book you're coming from this, and like, yeah, 216 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: explosive athlete. Huh yeah, seven point three. 217 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 218 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: But no, no, he wasn't at no point in his 219 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: career has been because and it's not a fault of 220 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: his that Noamar Jackson has been born and was living 221 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: in It's just like victim Man Binyama was coming up 222 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: for the draft. He says, kut Henderson's a hell of 223 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: a player. He may go number one if I was 224 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: never born, right, But that's the Lamar Jackson was born 225 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: right at his agent's last Mama gave birth to him, 226 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: and as a result, he'd been the best running quarterback 227 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: in the league since he walked in it. So it's like, 228 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: sometimes you have guys that will reach a peak, but 229 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 4: to me to hit the rushmore to be there day 230 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: in day out, And it's part of the reason why 231 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: Mahomes is still there despite not not necessarily covering himself 232 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: in glory in the Super Bowl last year. Are having 233 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: kind of the counting stats that you would expect. His 234 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: counting stats pale in comparison to the other three guys, 235 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: especially from last season. 236 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: But the King state of King, right, and. 237 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: When these guys go head to head, he's the one 238 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: that walks out victorious. And a lot of times it's 239 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: because I just watched him do something that I didn't 240 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 4: think people could do. 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 6: I mean that that is true when you're talking about 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 6: the King state of King. But then Joe Burrow slays 243 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 6: the King, but he doesn't get all that. I mean, 244 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 6: I just understand. I understand what you're saying and what 245 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 6: we're talking about when it comes to the quarterback landscape, 246 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: and some would say that QB wins aren't a real 247 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: stat because team stats. 248 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 5: Not sure whatever. 249 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: But we have to valuate quarterbacks on winning games because 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 6: we talked about Tom Brady being the goat because of 251 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 6: the rings, so it has to be in that. Look, 252 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: I think going back to the origin of the conversation 253 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 6: when we talk about the Bills and Josh Allen and 254 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 6: getting over the hunt, like I don't know what more 255 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: Josh Allen could do. I agree when it comes to 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 6: playing in the game, not turning the ball over, playing 257 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 6: almost flawless when it comes to it, they just haven't 258 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: been able to dispatch the boogeyman. 259 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: Well I suppose, I guess he could have converted one 260 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: of two of them to his pushes. 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: But I feel I get you. 262 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: I mean, he would give you a heart good like that. 263 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 6: That offensive line needs to get a greater push. Yeah, 264 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 6: but I mean it's it's a significant factor. Look, I'm 265 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: if I'm Brandi Bean. I understand why Brandon Bean was 266 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 6: kind of had a loss for words when it comes 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 6: to like, what do they have to do because they 268 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 6: beat him in the regular season and then couldn't beat 269 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 6: him in the pour season. They've had him at home, 270 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 6: they've had him on the road, they just can't find. 271 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: The way to figure it out. Is tough. It's tough 272 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 5: you the Buffalo Bills, because at some point you can. 273 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 6: Be like, we wasted Josh Allen's prime years because we 274 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 6: weren't able to we weren't able to get. 275 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 4: Past I mean that. But you know that's the tragedy 276 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: and beauty is sports at the end of it. Golly, 277 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: I was watching I think it was ironically enough Kirk Cousins, 278 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: which I kind of scoffed at at the time, but quarterback. Yeah, 279 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: but he was saying that the only way to end 280 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: the season happiest and lifting the Lombardi Trophy. So by definition, 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: I mean he's thirty one. Team's gonna be missing happy. 282 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 283 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: Different degrees of success right like, and it's interesting like 284 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: Washington right now, things feel good, you know, NFC Championship birth. 285 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: But hey, that team comes out and starts out four 286 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: and seven. 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 6: Those those throwback uniforms that have all my people excited again. 288 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: I'll just you know, things can change, things can change quickly. 289 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: Coming up next, an all time good guy continues on 290 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: being a good guy, and sometimes we just need to get. 291 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Out of the way and let good guys do good Things. 292 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: Martin Weiss and Bucky Brooks in for Rob Parker and 293 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: Kevin Washington on The I Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 294 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 295 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 296 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 297 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 298 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 7: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 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Uh, 315 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: you know, Bucky, you're obviously heavily involved in high school 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: football the head coach nooi Cornada Hills head coaches. 317 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad, MG Doll. 318 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: I was just double checking though, because, uh, you know, 319 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: I was in, I say involved, barely involved. I know 320 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: a lot of people who co worked down at Long Beach, Polly, 321 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: So I'll go to the practice on so. Uh, I'm 322 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: always shocked to find out that that kid who is 323 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: like a whole head taller than me and two hundred 324 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: pounds every to me, still has like. 325 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: A speaky voice, you know. You know, hey, coach, you 326 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: give me a ride, Like, what do you mean you're thirty? 327 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: Anyway, Teddy Bridgewater had either retired or was not in 328 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: the NFL for a while, right, and was coaching down 329 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: at Miami Northwestern, where he went to high school. Uh, 330 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: and was in and out we went back to he 331 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: went actually took snaps in the playoffs against the Commanders 332 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: Crazy when Golf was knocked out with a Art was 333 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: evaluated for a concussion of coming back in the game, 334 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: which was a moment like damn, this is when you 335 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: actually only become really important at work, right, But Bridgewater 336 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: was really important at the job he was doing before, 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: which it seemed to me was volunteering as the head 338 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: coach at Miami Northwestern and was suspended from his position 339 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: for allegedly providing impermissible benefits to his players. 340 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: So clearly we had another like Lloyd Howell. 341 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: Junior, where they're going to the strip club to figure 342 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 4: everything out, you know, player bonding they called it. 343 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, they're studying for the saight. No, No, that's 344 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: not what he was doing. 345 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 4: He was buying ubers, helping kids get home, that type 346 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: of thing, helping kids pay for the different aspects of 347 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 4: their recovery needed, basically, from as far as I can tell, 348 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: and it's something. 349 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: That you see a lot in just the high school. 350 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: Sports system in general, Teddy Bridgewater was filling in the 351 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: gaps yep, that exists between what families can do for 352 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: their kids, what schools can do for their kids, and 353 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: what kids need. And that to me is one of 354 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: those where it's like, man, I promissible benefits all okay, man, 355 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: if I'm buying it's a difference between bind somebody a 356 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: sandwich of buying somebody Lamborghini. 357 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's really unfortunate because he got he got 358 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 6: painted in a in a bad light, and I felt 359 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 6: like he got caught up in some administrative stuff that 360 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: was really not really about these situations, but more so 361 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: trying to put a smudge on him. This is the 362 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 6: guy that came back to is Alma Mater, led them 363 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 6: to a title state championship his only year as the 364 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 6: head coach, did a lot for the community and the kids, 365 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 6: and it appeared by all accounts that his intention and 366 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 6: his heart were pure when it came to helping the 367 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 6: kids in the community. He talked about not having them 368 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 6: walk through dangerous neighborhoods. So that's why he had the 369 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 6: Uber thing pregame meal like simple things, not simple things, 370 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 6: but things that man enhanced the overall experience. 371 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 5: And I'm sure that it was He's going to be. 372 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: Row numbers right here. 373 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 374 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: I spent fourteen thousand dollars on players training camp and 375 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: it broke down like this, seven hundred dollars a week 376 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 4: for uber rides, thirteen hundred dollars a week for recovery 377 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 4: services and twenty two hundred dollars a week for pregame meals. 378 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: What a criminal. I mean, I'm under the jail. 379 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 5: It's just it's just crazy. 380 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: It's hard enough. 381 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 6: And the thing is is a common theme for teachers, 382 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: because teachers digging their pockets a lot because they don't 383 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 6: have the supplies for their students. So to me, it's 384 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: a common deal. It's just unfortunate that it's become this 385 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 6: mess that has become. But hass off to him for 386 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 6: doing what he was doing for his his team, his 387 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: kids and those things. And hopefully at some point when 388 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 6: it's all sitting done and he's done playing, he can 389 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 6: go back to his community and get back to coaching 390 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 6: because he did a really good job of helping his 391 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 6: team in his community and I appreciate that. 392 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: And Teddy Bridgewater is a I who seemingly has ingratiated 393 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: himself almost in every community that it was in like 394 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: I am. Obviously, he started in Minnesota, didn't work out there, 395 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: had the injury, and then kind of was at that 396 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: point from there a career backup. But in New Orleans 397 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 4: was now New Orleans is a town that loves their 398 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: ball players in general, but in New Orleans, Teddy Bridgewater 399 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: was really appreciated because not only did he go five 400 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: and oher with Sean Payton one year and just started 401 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: quarterback when Drew got hurt, but also Teddy Bridgewater was 402 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: famous for riding his bike to go to high school 403 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: football games. 404 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh and like I told you, I grew up Louisiana. 405 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: What you do on the weekends. 406 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: Friday you go watch high school football, Saturday you go 407 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: watch college football, and then Sunday he watched the Saints, right, 408 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: and then that's that's about covers it for about twenty 409 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: so weeks out the year, and then the other the 410 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: other ones you have Thanks Christmas and all that, you know, 411 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: Like that's. 412 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: About that, right, you know what I'm saying. You know, 413 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: maybe you go on vacation. 414 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: But so Teddy d Bridgewater was just seems to me 415 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: to be a guy who ingratiates himself and every community 416 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 4: he's in the fact that he keeps getting these backup 417 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: quarterback jobs. They're calling Teddy Bridgewater from Miami to be like, hey, 418 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: would you like to come and be our backup quarterback 419 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 4: for Week sixteen? Like we like you know the Lions 420 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: and the team had lost two games, and they're like 421 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 4: the team with Super Bowl aspirations super Bowl. For some 422 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 4: of the Bowl favorites, it's like, you know what, We've 423 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: had a guy all year back into everything off running 424 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: the scout team, but we rather Teddy Bridgewalk Teddy. 425 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 6: Bridgewall to come through handle this. I think it speaks 426 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 6: to who he is as a person. The same person 427 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: that people revere as a high school coach is the 428 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 6: same person that you want as your backup quarterback because 429 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 6: he's going to. 430 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: Do right by the start and everybody else, you know what, 431 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: and now it's time for us to do right. 432 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: Just can't go wrong. Kicking it over to Mashi Blanos. 433 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. It's the best sports talk lineup in 434 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: the nation. 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We'll find our guests 445 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: right now. Tony Casius, two times Super Bowl champion and 446 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 4: College Football Hall of Famer, joining us now on the 447 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: odd couple, Tony, you're talking with Martin Weiss and Bucky Brooks. 448 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: Tony, thanks for joining. 449 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 8: Us, Hey, thanks for having me. 450 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: Guys, appreciate it, Tony. And you know you're locked in 451 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: with the Dallas Cowboys and everything here. So I just 452 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 4: want to ask you, were you ever held a hostage 453 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: by a hand shake deal and making eye contact and 454 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: smiling or just basically what's going on here with Jerry 455 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: seemingly bypassing David Mulagetta for whatever reason. 456 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It seems like around here 457 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 8: is kind of the narrative when it comes to signing 458 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 8: their extending your star players. Honestly, it's never happened in 459 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 8: my lifetime. I've always been told you got to get 460 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 8: everything and writing, and you know, maybe that's Jerry deflecting 461 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 8: some of the good faith and the negotiation and him 462 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 8: making reference to he's under contract. I will say this, 463 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 8: I think Mica has handled it very professionally because I 464 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 8: don't know under the environment it's taking place now, him 465 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 8: going out to training camp and not participating. To me, 466 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 8: it'd be hard to hold my words and not have 467 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 8: an animosity. And I think Micah again, I think everyone 468 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 8: knows that he's got to get paid and he deserves 469 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 8: to be paid as one of the top players NFL. 470 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 8: But I think Jerry that's kind of what his narrative 471 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 8: has been as far as negotiating with the star players. 472 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 8: And I think every year everyone asks why hasn't this 473 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 8: been done already as far as the sour cap, But uh, 474 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 8: you know, I think that's that's Jerry. Uh you know, 475 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 8: he's done it for so many years, and uh, Honestly, 476 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 8: when you look at the sour cap, it really hasn't 477 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 8: bowed very well for him. And I just don't think 478 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 8: a non quarterback is someone that Jerry is really excited 479 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 8: about playing. But we all know Michael will be out 480 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 8: there on game, hopefully for you know, the Eagles game. 481 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 8: But right now, I think Jerry is just playing the 482 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 8: hand that hey, you're under contract, and uh, if I 483 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 8: want to extend it. That's something we're gonna have to 484 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 8: go whatever that was said with his handshake. But again, 485 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 8: it's it's all about if you're in the in the 486 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 8: business of playing football as of players part of the game, 487 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 8: and you know that's the that's kind of the poster 488 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 8: that Jerry's taking right now. 489 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: You know, here's the thing. 490 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: Have you haven't been in locker rooms, particularly that locker 491 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: room as a Super Bowl champion? How does the rest 492 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 6: of the team view Jerry Jones when he has shown 493 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: that he has a history of not taking care of 494 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: his players without a little acrimony when it comes to 495 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 6: the contract negotiation. 496 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting because you know, we go out to 497 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 8: the Star it's an amazing facility and you know some 498 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 8: of those older players that were invided back by Brian 499 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 8: Schottenheimer and it's a great day. But you know, I 500 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 8: think I think that Jerry's thinking sometimes is that, you know, 501 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 8: you're part of this Cowboys brand and a lot of 502 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 8: things going to come along with that and kind of 503 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 8: lose sight of the business aspect of getting your best player. 504 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 8: But I think guys aren't going to admit that. I mean, 505 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 8: that's something you don't talk about I mean you have 506 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 8: guys i's uh, reaching out on social media and communicating 507 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 8: that way and hopefully supporting one another. But you know, 508 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 8: it's a game you have to play, and I think 509 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 8: as a player, it's you take it as a you know, 510 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 8: it's part of the profession. You want to make as 511 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: much as you can while you have the opportunity. We 512 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 8: know how important the first, that first and second contract 513 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 8: is as far as getting extended and being able to 514 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 8: finish out your career right. But I don't think there's 515 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 8: any animosity. I think that people know that a part 516 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 8: of that organization to serve as a player. Yeah, I 517 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 8: mean we want to we want to get them signed. 518 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 8: I mean everyone everyone. If they're serious about making a 519 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 8: run this year, which I think they have the capability 520 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 8: of it, they got to have their best player and 521 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 8: that's Michael Parsons without a doubt. I mean there's a 522 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 8: lot of plans I think that Matt Eberflus has for 523 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 8: him in this defense and for this defense to be 524 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 8: as great as it can and potentially with Michael Parsons, 525 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 8: he's got to be part of it. 526 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: So from there to Terry McLaurin, another hold in situation, 527 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: another situation where you know a little acrimonious over there 528 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: in the NFC East, but talking about having a young 529 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: quarterback missing his number one weapon through training camp and 530 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: also again another contraction scenario and McLaurin one of the 531 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 4: better players on Washington to Jade and Daniels obviously the 532 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: most important player on Washington missing one of the better players. 533 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: You know you've played the offensive line. How can you 534 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: speak to how that impacts a young quarterback? 535 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 8: Well, I played, I played the defense. No, it's okay, 536 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 8: but no, I think you know this. To be able 537 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 8: to have the chemistry with your with your star receiver 538 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: and number one receiver, you got to get the reps in. 539 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 8: It can't OTAs and you know things that you know 540 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 8: these players are missing out on. Uh, look, you can 541 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 8: only get one shot at the big money and you're 542 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 8: just trying to do as much as you can. And uh, 543 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 8: you know there's a shelf life or when you can 544 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 8: really into your your prime. And I think guys understand that, 545 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 8: you know, Jayden Daniels, all these quarterbacks, they understand It's like, 546 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 8: you know, I'm going to get mine someday and I 547 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 8: want you to get yours. And so I think there's 548 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 8: no I think every player understands the nature of the business, 549 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 8: and I think management gms it's their job to get 550 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 8: those things done before uh, it comes to a situation 551 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 8: like you see. But you know, sometimes again it's it's 552 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 8: part of the process, and you know the biggest important 553 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 8: thing is that they're there for week one and you know, 554 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 8: now with the you know, the the training camps and 555 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 8: the minimum minimize hitting, I think more it's, uh, you're 556 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 8: getting the timing down and getting some chemistry with your quarterback, 557 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 8: and you know, I think that that's that's the way 558 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 8: it is in the National Football League. 559 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: You know. 560 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: I want to go back to the Cowboys because you 561 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: mentioned having alumni data legends going out to the Star 562 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 6: because Brian Schottenheimer, Uh, what do you've seen from Brian Schottenheimer. 563 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 6: What do you like about what he potentially can do 564 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 6: with the Cowboys now he's the head coach. 565 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 8: Well yeah, well, I think I think when you look 566 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 8: at Mike McCarthy, I think there's always this notion he 567 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 8: seems like, you know, this big guy on the sidelines, 568 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 8: look like a guy that's probably had a tour, you know, 569 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 8: likes to have a cold beard, and so you automatically 570 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 8: think this guy is, you know, one of the fellows. 571 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 8: But not to be saying any negative about coach McCarthy, 572 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 8: I think he's done a tremendous job of his crew. 573 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 8: But I think Mike, excuse me, Brian Schottenheimer's interjected this 574 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 8: type of different energy and and and exuded and when 575 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 8: we were out there, you could tell that there was 576 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 8: this He's a younger, he's a younger coach. I think 577 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 8: he does it a different way. He's all about being positive, 578 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 8: high energy, tempo in the building. On the field, Uh, 579 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 8: you know, keeping it loose, but you know, guess what, 580 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 8: we're going to pay attention to detail. And I think 581 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 8: it's a different voice. And that's the sense that we 582 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 8: got when we're out there for and spending the whole 583 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 8: day of going through meetings and and you know, talking 584 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 8: to the players and giving our experience, because I think 585 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 8: that's something that as a player, once you're gone, you 586 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 8: still love being around in an environment, even if you've 587 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 8: been gone that long. So I think that he gets that. 588 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 8: And you know, just talking to trainers and equipping the 589 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 8: guys that Brian Schottenheimer under his very short time so 590 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 8: far as a head coach. It wasn't like that with 591 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy, and I always thought it was totally the opposite. 592 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: But I think, to me, if I'm looking at this team, 593 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 8: I really think Brian Schottenheimer is really going to be 594 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 8: a difference this year. I really do. You know, coach 595 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 8: can only do so much with his voice, but I 596 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 8: mean his voice is nothing but energy, being positive, Uh, 597 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 8: you know, guys, understanding the you know the scheme, and 598 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 8: really a lot of support. And I don't care if 599 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 8: you've been in the league ten years or two years. 600 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 8: You need that from a head coach. And you know 601 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 8: that's right away. That's what we noticed is just uh, 602 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 8: the energy and and just a sense of urgency and 603 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 8: you know, we're going to be We're going to rEFInd 604 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 8: and we're going to mentally be prepared. And I think 605 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 8: that that comes with his h his type of energy 606 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 8: and and I think that really boes well with the 607 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 8: with the team, especially for Brian Schottenheimer, because he wants it. 608 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 8: I mean, he wants to be successful. And really I 609 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 8: think Jerry is sometimes it's a little misleading, but I 610 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 8: really think Brian Schottenheimer has really changed that. You know, 611 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 8: as I mentioned as an example, having the legends out 612 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 8: and being around, you know, the players, and you know 613 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 8: that's something that Mike McCarthy really didn't endorse. 614 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: You know, I think you said, because Mike McCarthy, for 615 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: sure is not some energy would not be the first, second, third. 616 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: Or fifteenth adjutant that would come to mind when I 617 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: would discuss Mike McCarthy. Quarterback. Whispered maybe, but energy not 618 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: so much. Toddy can see us. 619 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us defensive tackles, college football Hall 620 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: of Famer and two time Super Bowl champion with those 621 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. 622 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on the show today, 623 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: my friend. 624 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 8: Hey, thanks Ellis