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Speaker 2: Of course you all know him, Chuck Todd. He's a

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Speaker 3: Wes Moore is there we go.

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Speaker 2: He is the sixty third governor of the state of

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Please welcome them both to the stage.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is good. We save a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the Texas Tribune. While welcome, It is

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Speaker 3: So I think there has to be a combination where

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Speaker 3: Like these are who you went after, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask about when the President was starting to

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Speaker 1: Do you know what's the cause? How much of it

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Speaker 1: So I'm did you offer to take him for a while?

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Speaker 3: I offered it take him for a walk. I told

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Speaker 1: You know, he he.

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Speaker 3: Here is the problem. There is no data. This was

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Speaker 1: And I know what my people are trained for.

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Speaker 3: And they are supposed to be deployed during times of emergency,

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Speaker 1: you gave him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I the the advice. Uh, you know,

438
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Speaker 3: the advice that I gave him is performance matters more

439
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Speaker 3: than anything else. What Donald Trump is talking about, what

440
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is doing is performative. What people want in

441
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Speaker 3: your jurisdiction is performance. They want results. And this is

442
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Speaker 3: actually one of the big things that I think about

443
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Speaker 3: for the Democratic Party, where you know, people are like, well,

444
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Speaker 3: what's the message for the Democratic Party? Like the Democrats

445
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: don't have a messaging problem. The Democrats have a results problem.

446
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Speaker 3: You've got to actually deliver results, and and and and

447
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: the and the thing that I'm very clear about is

448
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Speaker 3: that if you you know, when you say when when

449
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Speaker 3: the present is like, we need to talk more about affordability. No,

450
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Speaker 3: you need to address affordability, sir. You don't need to

451
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Speaker 3: talk about affordability. You need to make sure we're doing

452
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Speaker 3: things like making sure that housing is more available because

453
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Speaker 3: one of the leading causes for people to lead jurisdictions

454
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Speaker 3: is rising housing costs, and if you have increased demand,

455
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Speaker 3: which means more people coming to an area, the thing

456
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Speaker 3: you have to do to address it is you have

457
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Speaker 3: to increase supply. You have to build more housing, and

458
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Speaker 3: you have to build it fast. Right if you really,

459
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Speaker 3: if you really want to address things like rising energy

460
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Speaker 3: CAUs it's not just talking about rising energy costs. You

461
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Speaker 3: need to have more energy options and you need to

462
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Speaker 3: stop doing what we're watching the president do. Where in

463
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Speaker 3: our state, I'm very clear that we want to be

464
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Speaker 3: able to explore all energy options because you want to

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Speaker 3: increase supply. So that means why are we not looking

466
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Speaker 3: at investing in things like solar, Why are we not

467
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Speaker 3: investing in win, Why are we not investing in nuclear?

468
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Speaker 3: And look at nuclears a clean energy option? But no,

469
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Speaker 3: but the President still continue to take an ideological perspective

470
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Speaker 3: to it and then turn around and say, well, let's

471
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Speaker 3: blame democrats why prices are going up. And so the

472
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Speaker 3: thing and the council that I really gave it that

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Speaker 3: like listen, you know, don't don't get distracted, stay focused,

474
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Speaker 3: and stay focused on delivering the results that the people

475
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Speaker 3: of your jurisdiction need. And if you do that, You're

476
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Speaker 3: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: It does seem as if you only deal with you

478
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Speaker 1: only respond, you only respond to Trump. You don't seem

479
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Speaker 1: to seek out confrontation with.

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Speaker 3: High I have no desire to pick a fight with

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Speaker 3: the President of the United States, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But I refuse to let the president of the United States,

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Speaker 3: you know, pick on my people where I've been very

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Speaker 3: clear with the people of my state, like I will

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Speaker 3: work with anyone, but I will bow down to no one,

486
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Speaker 3: and I will not let and I'm not gonna let

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Speaker 3: the people of my state become a pincushion for for

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Speaker 3: his for his uh, you know, for his childish s florness.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to drop the Trump subject here after this

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Speaker 1: one last question. He's won two terms for president. What

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Speaker 1: does he do? What does he do well that has

492
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Speaker 1: allowed him to get elected twice? Ah, what have you

493
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Speaker 1: learned anything from him?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And listen, I think we will be.

496
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Speaker 1: We would be.

497
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Speaker 3: We can spend all night long talking about the dangers

498
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Speaker 3: of what he is doing and how we literally have

499
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Speaker 3: a president United States who's using the Constitution like it's

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Speaker 3: a suggestion box.

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Speaker 1: I think I wish he did use it as a suggestion. Thoughts,

502
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Speaker 1: actually he.

503
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Speaker 3: Should take more suggestions. But we would also be foolish

504
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Speaker 3: not to acknowledge the speed in which he moves. Where,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think about it this way, where.

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Speaker 1: You don't care about institutions and whether they have to

507
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Speaker 1: write their own version of the memo before you get

508
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Speaker 1: to institute implement your plan.

509
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Speaker 3: Right, Oftentimes everything from Democrats is.

510
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Speaker 1: Like an eight year research paper.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, let's do another analysis of the analysis

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Speaker 3: that we concluded of the last analysis.

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Speaker 1: You need to make sure to approve a committee to

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Speaker 1: do that analysis.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Donald Trump did not need a two

516
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Speaker 3: year commission to decide he was going to start a

517
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Speaker 3: trade war. Donald Trump did not need a four year

518
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Speaker 3: analysis to decide that he was going to break the

519
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Speaker 3: law and kick children off of snap. Donald Trump did

520
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Speaker 3: not need a eighteen person commission to decide that he

521
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: was going to take parts of the Constitution and literally

522
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Speaker 3: pick and choose which judge's orders he would follow and not.

523
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Speaker 3: And I just think that the Democratic Party has got

524
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Speaker 3: to stop being the party of no and slow and

525
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Speaker 3: starting the party of yes. And now I think the

526
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Speaker 3: Democratic Party have got to start moving faster. I think

527
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Speaker 3: the Democratic Party have got to be start being more

528
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Speaker 3: more deliberate. I think the Democratic Party has got to

529
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Speaker 3: stop making everything a tenth grade debate club research paper.

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Speaker 3: And I just believe that you know, there is something

531
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Speaker 3: that we do understand that he actually does that he

532
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Speaker 3: moves with a level of speed and frankly, Donald Trump,

533
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Speaker 3: and I said, Donald Trump is a fantastic vessel for

534
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Speaker 3: the frustration. He's someone who's going to tell you what's

535
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Speaker 3: wrong with it. He's going to see someone who's going

536
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Speaker 3: to tell you who broke it, who's to blame for it,

537
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: and why he alone can fix it. Right, Donald Trump

538
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: is a vessel for the frustration, but he's not a

539
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: vehicle for the solution. I think the answer that the

540
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: Democrats have got to do is we've got to start

541
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Speaker 3: being the vehicle for the solution and stop pretending like

542
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Speaker 3: these problems are not problems. Because if we start moving

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Speaker 3: with a sense of speed to address the issue that

544
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Speaker 3: if we can have, if we if our solutions actually

545
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Speaker 3: match the speed in which people's lives are falling apart,

546
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Speaker 3: then you're not going to have election problems anymore.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing I think we've got to learn

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Speaker 1: from him. Let's you brought up affordability and you brought

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Speaker 1: up electricity, and this is this is It looks like

550
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Speaker 1: the electric bill in twenty twenty six is going to

551
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Speaker 1: be what the price of eggs was in twenty twenty four, right,

552
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Speaker 1: Meaning this is going to be an issue. We're seeing

553
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Speaker 1: it everywhere. Right. It was a big, big issue in

554
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. I'm a Virginian. Louden County is on fire

555
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Speaker 1: about these data centers. Maryland's in an interesting spot right

556
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Speaker 1: as far as where your place is on the grid,

557
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Speaker 1: and you know, you're having to have more transmission lines right,

558
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Speaker 1: are coming through the state in order to power these

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Speaker 1: data centers in the v of the DMV. And yet

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Speaker 1: the way we do electric bills, it's all state regulated

561
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Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. This feels like we are

562
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Speaker 1: we're sort of a slow motion train wreck where suddenly

563
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Speaker 1: government's going to get left with a huge tab to

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Speaker 1: subsidize a whole bunch of people who can't afford electricity anymore.

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Speaker 1: What can be done proactively in your state to lessen

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Speaker 1: the impact of what is clearly going to be a

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Speaker 1: surge in electrical uh, a surgeon use off the grid,

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Speaker 1: which is just going to raise all of our electric bills.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's it's it's insane that we've even gotten

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Speaker 3: here in the first place, because there's just been a

571
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Speaker 3: deep level of negligence that is that's existed.

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Speaker 1: You know we have now you don't have to tell

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Speaker 1: Texans about a power grid issue. That's true. I think

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Speaker 1: they're well aware and allow will laugh about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's real. Let's hope there's not a tough winner here.

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Speaker 1: That's right, right, they have a tough winner. That grid

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Speaker 1: goes down, all of us may pay a price.

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Speaker 3: Across I'll say, it's it's not just y'all that will

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Speaker 3: pay it pay a larger price.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it will be the entire country. Right.

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Speaker 3: So there's a there's a few different things that I

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Speaker 3: think we have just completely missed a boat on. We've

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Speaker 3: missed a boat when it comes to understanding the level

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Speaker 3: of surging, surging demand that exists. And it's not just

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Speaker 3: it's not even just surging demand that you have from

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Speaker 3: UH companies and technology, it's also just the human surge

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Speaker 3: of demand that has now existed that we have not

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Speaker 3: made the investments when it comes to grid technology, we

589
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Speaker 3: have not made the investments when it comes to pipeline

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Speaker 3: and when you do have a few of these operators

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Speaker 3: for example, you know, and for us it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: PGM where you know where there's about thirteen states that

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Speaker 3: PGM covers down on where the processes are opaque, the

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Speaker 3: processes are convoluted, and the processes are things that frankly,

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Speaker 3: for a lot of the states we don't have a

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Speaker 3: measure of involvement in and so we have PJAM who

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Speaker 3: will then make decisions about which projects they will then

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Speaker 3: allow without the input that's coming from us, from from

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Speaker 3: our individual states, from Pennsylvania, from Maryland, from Virginia, from

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Speaker 3: all from Jersey, from all these other states.

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Speaker 1: But your state regulatory agency with the power companies doesn't

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Speaker 1: have any impact on this.

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Speaker 3: Camp because because they are they are an independent with rates.

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Speaker 3: All they do is just approve rates well. And what

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Speaker 3: they do is they prove projects okay. And so the

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Speaker 3: problem is is that if you have a choke point

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Speaker 3: for projects that allowed to come on, it means that

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Speaker 3: you have a decreased supply. And so I think you

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Speaker 3: have to have reform within PJAM. You have to allow

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Speaker 3: and be speedier about putting more projects that allowed to

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Speaker 3: come on board. We have to do a better job

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Speaker 3: of diversifying the type of energy options that we have.

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Speaker 3: If you can do that, you're then able to increase

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Speaker 3: the supply that's then able to address the supply and

615
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Speaker 3: demand curve. The problem is is that we have found

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Speaker 3: ourselves in a situation that for a decade plus there

617
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Speaker 3: has not been this type of investment. And so now

618
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Speaker 3: you come up with a situation where you have a

619
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Speaker 3: crisis situation and something where people are now watching their

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Speaker 3: energy bills continue to skyrocket for the same exact product line.

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Speaker 3: And so I agree, I think this is one of

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Speaker 3: the crucial issues that we've got to be able to

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Speaker 3: sort on, and frankly, something that no individual state alone

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Speaker 3: is going to have to figure out. It's going to

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Speaker 3: take really a coordination between all of our individual states

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Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, But look, you're in an electioneer. People

628
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Speaker 1: are going to want some They're going to want some

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Speaker 1: help right now. Yes, what could you do in the

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Speaker 1: state level.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can help when it comes to things like like,

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Speaker 3: for example, just a few weeks ago, I just put

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Speaker 3: an additional ten million dollars that is going towards energy

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Speaker 3: prices and energy bills as we're coming up to as

635
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Speaker 3: we're coming up to our winter season, helping with heating bills.

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Speaker 3: So we've done rebates that have gone back to the people,

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Speaker 3: to the people of our state. So there are things

638
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: that we can do to help out with the immediate pain.

639
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Speaker 3: But I think that has to be matched with also

640
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Speaker 3: additional investments that's can be made to deal with the

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Speaker 3: long term processes, because none of us have an interest

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Speaker 3: or frankly, there is no state that has a balance

643
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Speaker 3: sheet to continue just finding more expensive band aids. We've

644
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Speaker 3: got to actually fix the wound that is causing increased demand.

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Speaker 3: But where supply is just not keeping up or matching

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 1: What should the all these AI tech companies that are

648
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Speaker 1: skyrocketing the stock market, they have these incredible valuations, they're

649
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Speaker 1: building these data centers, and look, there's it's not every

650
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Speaker 1: state where the data centers are causing this problem. It's

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Speaker 1: it's some states that they are, some that they aren't.

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Speaker 3: And some data centers have no I have their own.

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Speaker 1: Power centers and all of that. What I guess the

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Speaker 1: question is if if somebody wants to build a data

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Speaker 1: center in Maryland. What does that? What would a Microsoft

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Speaker 1: have to do or an IBM if they wanted to

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Speaker 1: build a data center in Maryland, what would you want

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Speaker 1: them to do to minimize the impact on your residence. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a few things.

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Speaker 3: One is, and I've been very clear and we've actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, had projects that we say are not going

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Speaker 3: to move forward, because if you're not moving forward with

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Speaker 3: the community, then things cannot move forward.

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Speaker 1: These aren't job creators, are they, these data centers?

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Speaker 3: Well, they're they're job creators, but they're not job creators.

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Speaker 3: And when you're looking at that long term job creators, no,

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Speaker 3: and not and not massive job creators. Right, So listen,

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Speaker 3: I am actually I believe that we need to do

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Speaker 3: a better job of critical infrastructure. I believe that our

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Speaker 3: state needs to do more to invite critical infrastructure. I also, though,

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Speaker 3: believe that nothing can or will happen in my state

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Speaker 3: without the impact of the community. And I think the

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Speaker 3: community will always have the final say with me. It's

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Speaker 3: part of the reason that I have a lot of

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Speaker 3: issues with some of these projects that pg going back

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Speaker 3: to PGAM that they then put on board, where you

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Speaker 3: were literally putting together lines and transmission lines and you're

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Speaker 3: looking at them, You're putting it throughout my map without

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Speaker 3: realizing that people actually live there, like it's a game

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Speaker 3: about where they are placing this without any form of

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Speaker 3: feedback from us or any former feedback from the community.

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Speaker 3: And so I believe that we need to invest in

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Speaker 3: critical infrastructure. I believe that when we're talking about the

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Speaker 3: future of AI and cyber and quantum, that these are

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Speaker 3: things that I want my state to be not just

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Speaker 3: a national but a global leader in. But I also

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Speaker 3: know that this has to happen in partnership with the community.

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Speaker 3: This is not going to be what we're doing to

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Speaker 3: the community. It has to be what we're doing actually

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Speaker 3: with the community in these build outs.

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Speaker 1: Are you working with any of these companies that have

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Speaker 1: taken that attitude?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, we are, because for all these companies, they

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Speaker 3: understand if you're not taking that attitude, then you're not

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Speaker 3: doing projects in my state.

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Speaker 1: You before you were a politician. I first met you

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Speaker 1: when you were CEO of something called the Robin Hood Foundation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in New York City. It's an incredible a charitable organization

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Speaker 1: primarily funded by the Wall Street folks. Right, would you

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Speaker 1: say fair Yeah. I say this because Wall Street money

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Speaker 1: right is a dirty word in the Democratic Party today. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is why I want to give you a chance. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: make your case for why Democrats shouldn't be so skeptical

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Speaker 1: of Wall Street.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think about the work that I did at

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Speaker 3: Robin Hooden, and it's this idea that for each and

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Speaker 3: every one of us, we should understand the scourge that poverty,

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Speaker 3: and particularly child poverty is in our society. I mean fundamentally.

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Speaker 3: That's actually the reason why I ran. That's really the

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Speaker 3: reason and why I ran for governor in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Is you know, when I was talking with you know,

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Speaker 3: I remember actually talking with a board member, Robin d

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Speaker 3: and when I told him, I think I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go run for governor. And he said, well,

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Speaker 3: what is shees doing to work on? I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: want to work on things like child poverty. I want

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Speaker 3: to work on things like the racial wealth gap. And

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Speaker 3: he's like, but you're doing that here, why would you

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Speaker 3: leave and run for office? And I remember looking at

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Speaker 3: him and saying, and.

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Speaker 1: Acquire a whole bunch of extra bureaucracy to do those

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Speaker 1: things sometimes, right.

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Speaker 3: Now, that's right, yeah, And I remember looking at him

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Speaker 3: and I said to him, why do you think poverty

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Speaker 3: exists in the first place, Like, do you think poverty

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Speaker 3: exists because one group is just not working hard enough?

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Speaker 3: Like we have poverty because we have policies that allow

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Speaker 3: it to exist. We have poverty because we have policies

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Speaker 3: that put people in poverty and keep them in poverty.

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Speaker 3: We have a wealth gap, not because one group is

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Speaker 3: working eight times harder, but there are policies that allow

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Speaker 3: this to exist. And so I think that the only

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Speaker 3: way you're actually going to address it that you know,

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Speaker 3: I remember doctor King had a quote that sat on

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Speaker 3: my desk where it said philanthropy is commendable, but the

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Speaker 3: And my whole thing is this is that for our philanthropists,

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Speaker 3: what you're doing is good, but if you do not

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Speaker 3: understand why the policies that are being put in place.

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Speaker 3: The policies for example, like we saw where you know,

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Speaker 3: with the Big Beautiful Bill that was the largest upwards

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Speaker 3: consolidation of wealth in world history, that literally was just

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Speaker 3: making it. It created all these challenges so billionaires could

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Speaker 3: get a tax cut. And so I have and if

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Speaker 3: you look at what we did in the state of Maryland,

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Speaker 3: where we actually did an adjustment to our tax code,

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Speaker 3: where we gave the middle class a tax cut.

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Speaker 1: In my state. And yes, I asked.

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Speaker 3: Wealthy Marylanders to pay more, because I said, I have

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Speaker 3: who have benefited from the society that has been created,

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Speaker 3: to say, I'm asking you to pay a little bit

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Speaker 3: more so we don't have to lay off police officers

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Speaker 3: and firefighters, so we don't have to lay off school teachers,

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Speaker 3: so we can make sure that we can have safe

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Speaker 3: communities and have the best public education system inside this country.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm a person who says and believes deeply

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Speaker 3: like I don't you know when people say, you know,

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Speaker 3: do you lose sleep over billionaires? I said, I don't

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Speaker 3: lose sleep over billionaires. I want billionaires to pay their

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Speaker 3: fair share. But I don't lose sleep over billionaires. I

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Speaker 3: lose sleep over how many people we have living in poverty.

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Speaker 3: And I think we need to stay focused on ensuring

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Speaker 1: Have a tax system that is a fair tax system.

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Speaker 3: That allows you to be able to get back into

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Speaker 1: by my former polsters, I call them my former posters.

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Speaker 1: poll with but plurality of Democrats. Democrats were the only

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Speaker 1: political group that had a net negative view of capitalism

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Speaker 1: and a net positive view of socialism. Why do you

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Speaker 1: think that is well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I'm not sure if people if you

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Speaker 3: ask people the benefits of you know, what is socialism

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Speaker 3: or what is capitalism, that people would.

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Speaker 1: Actually give you an understanding of what that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they know the definitions.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, like honestly, like I remember, you know,

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Speaker 3: I remember having a conversation with somebody who actually lives

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Speaker 3: up in New York and this was actually during during

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Speaker 3: all in on Mamdani and so I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: that's that's cool. So I was like, so, you know,

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Speaker 3: so you know what excites You're there telling me all

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Speaker 3: this stuff. And I was like, are you a democratic socialists?

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Speaker 3: And they're like, what's that? Like? They didn't, they weren't

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Speaker 3: making the connection.

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Speaker 1: I got you. And I think for a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of people, the idea of what is a capitalist?

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Speaker 3: What is a socialist? What is this?

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 3: I think if you ask people fundamentally, like what do

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Speaker 3: you believe in? Like, I can tell you like what

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Speaker 3: I believe in, Like I believe that that that not

821
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Speaker 3: everyone should end up in the same spot, but everyone

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Speaker 3: should have a fair shot. I believe that we actually

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Speaker 3: should be a society that believes opportunity is a real

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Speaker 3: thing and not a punchline.

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Speaker 1: Equal access not equal outcomes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and that, and that we all shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have the.

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Speaker 1: Same equal solution for everybody.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's the reason that, for example, that we

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Speaker 3: have made the largest investments in trade and apprenticeship programs

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Speaker 3: inside of our state because I'm very clear, like we

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Speaker 3: have some of the best four year colleges in America,

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Speaker 3: and something that I'm very proud of in the state

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Speaker 3: of Maryland. But I'm also very clear I am going

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Speaker 3: to end this lie that every single one of our

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Speaker 3: students needs to attend one of them in order to

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Speaker 3: be economically successful. It's just not true that we are

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Speaker 3: going that we've eliminated this idea that we're evaluating high

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Speaker 3: schools based on your four year college acceptance rates. That's

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Speaker 3: an input, but it's not a key performance indicator. It's

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Speaker 3: basically saying that, like, how do we make sure that

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Speaker 3: we're having opportunities for people to be able to live

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Speaker 3: out their God given opportunities and God given potential that

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Speaker 3: people should have a chance to pursue work and wages

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Speaker 3: and wealth and know that there's not one singular path

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Speaker 3: in order to get there, you know. And I tell

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Speaker 3: people like, listen, I joined the army when I was

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old, Right, I think I'm the only governor

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Speaker 3: in this country who graduated from a two year college, right,

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Speaker 3: you know? I and you know, and things worked out

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Speaker 3: pretty well. So it's like, so there is no one

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Speaker 3: singular path that we want people to go down. And

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Speaker 3: I think when we're just talking about what does it

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Speaker 3: mean to have a society that works for everybody. I

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Speaker 3: believe that we need to know I am a I

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Speaker 3: am a capitalist. I also, though, believe that we need

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Speaker 3: to make sure that we have a fair and equitable

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Speaker 3: society as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the S word is a branding problem,

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Speaker 1: the socialism No.

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Speaker 3: I think that we need to make sure that our

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Speaker 3: society actually works for people. And when and when you

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Speaker 3: when you have a situation where you know, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the answer for how do we

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Speaker 3: fix society is complete redistribution.

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Speaker 1: I think the way you.

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Speaker 3: Actually fix society is you remove the barriers that are

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Speaker 3: keeping people from participating and competing in the first place.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the biggest ills we have on

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Speaker 3: society right now is a level of concentrated poverty, and

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Speaker 3: not just concentrated poverty, but generational poverty that we have

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Speaker 3: within our state. Is the reason that we in Maryland

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Speaker 3: passed something called the Enough Initiative, which stands for engaging neighborhoods, organizations, unions, governments,

874
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Speaker 3: and households basically everybody. And it is the most aggressive,

875
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Speaker 3: most aggressive place based strategy that this nation has seen

876
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Speaker 3: to address the issue of concentrated and generational childhood poverty.

877
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: That I believe that we need to be able to

878
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Speaker 3: address the racial wealth gap because the problem with the

879
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 3: racial wealth gap is that it doesn't just hurt one group.

880
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 3: Is that the racial wealth gap has cost this country

881
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: sixteen trillion dollars in GDP.

882
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Speaker 1: Over the past two decades. That's GDP.

883
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Speaker 3: And so if you really want to have an economy

884
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Speaker 3: that works for everybody, have an economy that actually everybody

885
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Speaker 3: can participate.

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00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: In, the issue of reparations became a bit of a

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Speaker 1: back and forth with your legislature, particularly, I think the

888
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Black legislatures there. We've been studying this for decades, Yes,

889
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: don't Why hasn't it happened? Well?

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00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: And the reason when this when this came up in

891
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Speaker 3: the General Assembly and they passed another commission, Yes, another study,

892
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Speaker 3: year study, and frankly this this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let me I apologize. I forgot to

894
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Speaker 1: tell you guys about questions. And we're a couple of

895
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Speaker 1: minutes away from him taking your question, so hurry up

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Speaker 1: and get him in. They're up there. I was a

897
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Speaker 1: bad moderator anyway, Governor going.

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Speaker 3: So, so if you if you look, if you look

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Speaker 3: at our state, we have we have done four studies

900
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Speaker 3: over the past twenty years dealing with this these.

901
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Speaker 1: Types of issues.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and I know that for a fact because one

903
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Speaker 3: of which my wife worked on it. And so when

904
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Speaker 3: a bill was passed for me to do another study,

905
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Speaker 3: I vetoed it, and I vetoed it because I'm like,

906
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what are we studying? I don't need another

907
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Speaker 3: two year study on something that I already know the

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Speaker 3: answer to.

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Speaker 1: Is this about whether to do it or how to?

910
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Speaker 1: In your mind, should discussion be about whether to do

911
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Speaker 1: it or how to do it?

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Speaker 3: I think the work of repair is a now action

913
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Speaker 3: because there is no one who needs to explain to

914
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Speaker 3: me the history of racism that we have seen in

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Speaker 3: the state of Maryland. Like I said, Maryland is the

916
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Speaker 3: home of redlining. We have watched more when you look

917
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Speaker 3: at things like unfair appraisal values and historically red line neighborhoods.

918
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Speaker 3: That has been one of the greatest wealth thefts that

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Speaker 3: we have seen in our nation's history. And it was

920
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: born in Maryland that we have seen. How you know,

921
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Speaker 3: when people talk with pride about the history of Frederick

922
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Speaker 3: Douglas and Harriet Tubman, I'm like, yeah, but you do

923
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Speaker 3: understand that there's a reason that Frederick Douglass and Harriet

924
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Speaker 3: Tubman were born in Maryland and we now know their

925
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Speaker 3: stories because some of the most creative and racist policies

926
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Speaker 3: in our nation's history were born in Maryland. You know,

927
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Speaker 3: I am I am the first African I'm the first

928
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Speaker 3: black governor in the history of the state of Maryland

929
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Speaker 3: and only the third African American ever elected in the

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Speaker 3: history of the United States as governor. And it is

931
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Speaker 3: not because I'm only the third African American ever qualified

932
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Speaker 3: to be a governor. Like we have to be clear,

933
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Speaker 3: there's a history to this, and so the reason, so

934
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Speaker 3: the reason that I said the reason that I said

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Speaker 3: that is this when I say, what is the work

936
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Speaker 3: of repair? The work of repair for me does not

937
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Speaker 3: require another two year study. The work of repair is

938
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Speaker 3: things like what we did where we invested over one

939
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Speaker 3: point three billion dollars in our states for HBCUs, which

940
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Speaker 3: is a sixty percent increase than what we saw for

941
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Speaker 3: my predecessor. The work of repair is doing things like

942
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Speaker 3: doing things like procurement reform, where we've now invested over

943
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Speaker 3: eight hundred million dollars in black owned businesses in the

944
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Speaker 3: state of Maryland and making sure we're giving a fair

945
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Speaker 3: distribution of state dollars that are.

946
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Speaker 1: Going to black owned businesses.

947
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Speaker 3: The work of repair is doing like what we did

948
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Speaker 3: with our Just Community Initiative, where we put four hundred

949
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Speaker 3: million dollars going to communities that have been historically that

950
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Speaker 3: have been historically discriminated against through Jim Crow, through segregation,

951
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Speaker 3: through mass and karcer The work of repair is doing

952
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Speaker 3: things like what I did. What I did last year

953
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Speaker 3: when I pardoned over one hundred and seventy five thousand

954
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Speaker 3: misdemeanor cannabis convictions in the stroke of a pen, which

955
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Speaker 3: is the largest mass part in the history of the

956
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Speaker 3: United States of America. That's the work of repair, and

957
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Speaker 3: what I'm not interested in more studies. I'm interested in

958
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Speaker 3: actually doing the work. And that's the message that I

959
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Speaker 3: wanted to send.

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Speaker 1: I want to invite our friends at the Texas Tribune

961
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Speaker 1: up so we can get ready for the Q and

962
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Speaker 1: A portion here. But I'm going to do one more

963
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Speaker 1: question to you, of course, the question that annoying people

964
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Speaker 1: like me are going to ask you a lot between

965
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Speaker 1: now and the filing deadline in New Hampshire. You have said,

966
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Speaker 1: but you have said I'm not running for president in

967
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. It is not your fault that none

968
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Speaker 1: of us believe you, because no. I say this because

969
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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when Bill Clinton pledged to

970
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Speaker 1: serve a full four year term and one election in

971
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and he did not serve that full four

972
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Speaker 1: year term. I'm old enough to remember when Barack Obama

973
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Speaker 1: came on Meet the Press and said he's not running,

974
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Speaker 1: and then six months later came on Meet the Press

975
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Speaker 1: and said, well, I've had to change of heart. So

976
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Speaker 1: why should we believe you that you're not running in

977
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Speaker 1: twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Well, first, because I'm not, but.

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Speaker 1: But also you know what sherman esque means, right, Yeah, okay,

980
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: you got sherman esque it. If you know, if nominated,

981
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Speaker 1: you will not you will not accept it.

982
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Speaker 3: I am, And this is this is this is a

983
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: very a very honest answer where I realize how much

984
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Speaker 3: I'm playing with house money right now.

985
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Speaker 1: I am.

986
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Speaker 3: I'm probably the most improbable governor in this country. Where

987
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm literally a person who watched my dad die

988
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Speaker 3: in front of me when I was three years old

989
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: because he didn't get the healthcare he needed. I'm a

990
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: person who had handcuffed my risk by the time I

991
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Speaker 3: was eleven. I'm a person who watched my mom, who

992
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: was an immigrant single mom, not get her first job

993
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Speaker 3: that gave her benefits until I was fourteen, not get

994
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: a job that allowed her to work one job instead

995
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Speaker 3: of multiple jobs until I was fourteen years old. And

996
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: I'm now the sixty third governor of my state, and

997
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: I love my work. I love the fact that we

998
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: have made Maryland has gone from being forty third in

999
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: the country and unemployment to now going a year and

1000
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: a half of having amongst the lowest unemployment rates in

1001
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Speaker 3: the entire country. That Maryland has had amongst the fastest

1002
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Speaker 3: drops in violent crime anywhere in America. That Maryland now

1003
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: is the first day in the country that has a

1004
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: service year option for all of our high school graduates.

1005
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: That Maryland, that Maryland is now the first state in

1006
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Speaker 3: the country that actually has a playspation initiative to deal

1007
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Speaker 3: with the issue of generational concentrated childhood poverty. That we've

1008
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: been able to turn a deficit into a surplus and

1009
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: give the middle class a tax cut, like I am

1010
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: playing with house money right now, and so I, uh no,

1011
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: it's a note. It's a note because I mean, I listen,

1012
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: I know that I've got I've gotten now four hundred

1013
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: and thirty six days before I go back in front

1014
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: of the people of my state and ask them for

1015
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 3: another four years. And it's asked that I take very seriously.

1016
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Speaker 1: Actually, it's a little lesson that I think, right, AC. Yeah,

1017
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: that's right. That's till my next inauguration. View, that's right. Oh, listen,

1018
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: running back now, that's kind of running by my next inauguration. Yeah,

1019
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: I will see see the microphone to our friends at

1020
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: the Texas Tribune and we hear from you.

1021
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Speaker 5: Cameron with the Texas Tribune, thank you so much for

1022
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 5: your great questions. First one USI and Pico from Austin asked,

1023
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Speaker 5: what is one policy you support that the Democratic Party avoids.

1024
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Speaker 3: It's interesting because I mean, like I I and I say,

1025
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: I say I say this. I say this in context

1026
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: where I was not the choice of the Democratic Party.

1027
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: You know, when I when I first ran for governor,

1028
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: I ran against three statewide elected officials, I ran against

1029
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: two Obama Cabinet secretaries. I ran against the former head

1030
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: of the DNC, and like me, the one who had

1031
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: no political experience at all, And I laugh and I say,

1032
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, when I told my family I was running

1033
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: for governor, I like, I had to convince my family

1034
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 3: to vote for me. And it's not that we're not cool,

1035
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: like we're cool, it's I had to convince many members

1036
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: of my family to vote. So I don't I don't

1037
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: really consider myself to be a creature of a party.

1038
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean I think about it this way, where you

1039
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: know where you know when you know over this process

1040
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 3: of this past year, for example, you know, when I

1041
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: was very clear to members of the Democratic Party in

1042
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: my state, we have a Democratic cousel and Democratic Senate,

1043
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: and I told the people of my party, I said, listen,

1044
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: if anything is sent to my desk that I believe

1045
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: infringes upon my executive authority or makes it harder for

1046
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: my cabinet secrets secretaries do their job. If anything is

1047
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: sent to my desk that is an unfunded mandate, or

1048
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: if anything is sent to my desk that is a

1049
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: study or a or an eight year commission, I'm vetoing it.

1050
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: And I ended up vetoing more bills than any Democratic

1051
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 3: governor in the history of the state of Maryland by

1052
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: five x. So I actually think there's a lot of

1053
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: Democrats who would say that, well, he doesn't know what's

1054
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 3: align with a lot of things that we think are

1055
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: priorities as a party. And frankly, I'm okay with that

1056
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: because I don't consider my self one who has to

1057
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: get put in a box when we talk about our policies.

1058
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: When people say, do you believe when you're addressing, you know,

1059
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: economic growth, are you pro business or are you pro worker?

1060
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Speaker 3: My answer is I'm not choosing that. I'm going to

1061
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: make sure we're supporting our workers. That we've raised a

1062
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: minimum wage, that we've been able to add an apprenticeship

1063
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: and trade programs, that we have a permanent child tax

1064
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: credit and earn income tax credit. And I've done things

1065
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Speaker 3: like permit reform and regulatory form reform and made it

1066
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: easier for businesses to be able to come and grow.

1067
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Speaker 3: We've incentivized businesses to come and choose and stay in

1068
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Speaker 3: the state of Maryland, because I believe if you believe

1069
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: if you have business growth and businesses choosing your areas,

1070
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Speaker 3: then that means more people are going to be hired,

1071
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: more entrepreneurs are going to be created, and you have

1072
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: more economic growth.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not choosing that.

1074
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Speaker 3: I'm a person who believes we made the largest investment

1075
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Speaker 3: in law enforcement and made the largest investment in our community.

1076
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Speaker 3: And so I it's difficult for me to answer because

1077
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Speaker 3: I feel like so much of what I have done

1078
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Speaker 3: has not been a political orthodox and there is. I

1079
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Speaker 3: don't call a party leader to ask permission when I

1080
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: make decisions. I make decisions on behalf of what I

1081
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Speaker 3: think is best for my people, and you know, kind

1082
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: of let the chips call with their manage, right.

1083
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Speaker 5: Samuel from Austin asks, how do we bring back by

1084
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 5: partisanship when the middle of the isle seems to no

1085
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 5: longer exist?

1086
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Samuel, I would say this. I think the

1087
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Speaker 3: middle of the isle doesn't seem to exist in Washington,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think that's actually real in communities and neighborhoods.

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00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: I think the way you bring back by partisanship is

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Speaker 3: you actually show up. I mean, I think about it

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: this way. Where you know, I remember on I think

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Speaker 3: it was day two or day three when I was governor,

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Speaker 3: I was I had a conversation with with a mayor

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Speaker 3: of a town called Lonacone, which is all the way

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Speaker 3: in western Maryland, and and he was telling me about

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00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: a water crisis he was having and he was on

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: a boilwater advisory. And when I was on the phone him,

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00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 3: I said, you know, mister Merril, I'm on my way.

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Speaker 3: And we headed out to western Maryland. And when I

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Speaker 3: met him, Uh, he's become a good friend. A guy

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Speaker 3: named a Mayor Coleburn. When I met him, he said

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Speaker 3: to me, he said, Governor, do me a favor. Turn

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00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty degrees. So I turned three hundred

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00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: and six degrees. And he said, the only guarantee I

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Speaker 3: can give you is you ain't see a Democrat within

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Speaker 3: five miles of anywhere.

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Speaker 1: You just looked.

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Speaker 3: And he said, he said, but I tell you what. Yeah,

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00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: the first government has been here since nineteen ninety six,

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: and we've continued to work together. We continue to work together.

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00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: When Maryland, when we had historic floods in western Maryland,

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: which the President of the United States denied all federal

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: aid and federal lief to Western Maryland.

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Speaker 1: I the most republican part of the state.

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Speaker 3: Literally seventy eight percent of that part of that state

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Speaker 3: voted for Donald Trump, and he left them behind. And

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: he will not be forgiven for that. But I remember

1118
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: when I announced my reelection, Samuel that Mayor Coburn and

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: several other Republicans from all around the state were the

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Speaker 3: first ones to come out and endorse me. And they

1121
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: came out and they said, they came out and they said, listen,

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Speaker 3: we might not agree with the governor and everything, but

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. He shows up and he creates

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Speaker 3: a table that's big enough for all of us. And

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Speaker 3: so the thing that I would say, how do you

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Speaker 3: restore by partisanship is don't pretend that bypartisanship is dead.

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Speaker 3: What we're watching this with this reality television show in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 3: is not a reflection of our communities where people are

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Speaker 3: just fighting for their people. They're just fighting to make

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Speaker 3: sure that they're not left behind. And I think as leaders,

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00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: the reason that we've been able to be successful in

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00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: our state with both Democrats and Republicans is because I

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: think the people of our state know that we don't

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Speaker 3: get into the partisan games in the back and forth.

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Speaker 1: We just try to do good bye our people.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I think that you know you're watching

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00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: at the state level that bipartisanship is very much alive

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Speaker 3: and well.

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Speaker 5: John the parent of a UMD student asks, what is

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Speaker 5: your message to those in their early twenties who grew

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 5: up during COVID and are now watching the upheaval in

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Speaker 5: this country's institutions.

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Speaker 3: Uh First, John, go TERFs, go TERFs.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard.

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Speaker 3: It's I feel bad for a lot of these students too,

1146
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: because for a lot of them, this measure of.

1147
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: Chaos and uncertainty is for it's it's.

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Speaker 3: It's defining for them, and so I understand the frustration.

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Speaker 3: I remember when I I actually gave a graduation speech

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Speaker 3: to the University of Maryland two years ago. They actually

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Speaker 3: they followed up by asking Kermit the Frog to give

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: it the year after. I know how to feel about.

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Speaker 1: That, but it'd be harder to follow Kermit.

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Speaker 3: It would be hard to Actually, I'm glad it went

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01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: before Kermit, actually, but I remember the speech that I

1156
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: gave to the graduates is probably the advice that I

1157
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: would give to John to UH, to your to your

1158
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: child is when people are telling you what you want

1159
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Speaker 3: to explore and what you want to study, you know,

1160
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: do you choose uh stem, do you choose life sciences?

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: Do you choose medicine? Do you choose humanities?

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Speaker 3: The advice that I would give them is as they're

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: thinking about what is they want to do to prepare

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Speaker 3: themselves for the rest of the world, is choose tough.

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Speaker 3: Choose the thing that's going to force you to wake

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Speaker 3: up a little bit earlier. Choose the thing that's going

1167
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: to force you to stay up a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: Choose the thing that's going to force you to get

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Speaker 3: out of your comfort zone and.

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Speaker 1: Stay there for a while.

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Speaker 3: Because the reason that I think I've been able to

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Speaker 3: adapt in this moment is I think about my experience

1173
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Speaker 3: in the military, where you know, I joined when I

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: was seventeen, I became an army officer by the time

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Speaker 3: I was nineteen. I deployed overseas with a unit, and

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: I led paratroopers with a unit that I actually joined

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Speaker 3: when they were already in theater. That part of my

1178
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: job was to try to get Tllybond members to try

1179
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Speaker 3: to leave and to join the Afghan forces and to

1180
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: turn their weapons and join this new Afghan government where

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Speaker 3: no matter what the obstacle is that comes in front

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Speaker 3: of me, Now I realized that I'm never going to

1183
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: flinch because we're just built differently. That was kind of

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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: forged out of us. And so when you have a

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01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: generation that's coming out of COVID and then you have

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Speaker 3: them now going into Trump and we have all these

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Speaker 3: things that are happening. The only guarantee I can give

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01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: to each and every young person inside of my state

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Speaker 3: is challenges are on their way. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: it's going to look like for you, but it's on

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Speaker 3: its way. And so the best preparation that I can

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: give you to how to deal with it, no matter

1193
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: what it looks like when it actually comes your way,

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: is choose tough now, because it's the best preparation that

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Speaker 3: you're going to have when that tough thing ends up

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01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: facing you, and that thing is going to learn that

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Speaker 3: you're not going to lose sleep over it.

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Speaker 1: Make it lose sleep over you. If you could wave

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Speaker 1: a magic wand would you have mandatory National service? Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's the reason that we in Maryland. Maryland

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01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: is now the first state in the country that has

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Speaker 3: a service your option for all of our high school graduates,

1203
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: where every high school graduate now is a chance to

1204
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: have a paid year service and they.

1205
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Speaker 1: Can choose however they want to do.

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Speaker 3: They can work, and they can serve veterans, they can

1207
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Speaker 3: serve in the environment, they can work with young people,

1208
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: they can work with older adults. The only thing we

1209
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: ask is tell us what makes your heart beat a

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01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: little bit faster, and we're going to give you an

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: opportunity to do it, a paid opportunity to do it.

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Speaker 3: And I remember, you know, when I ran for governor,

1213
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: I had people who I serve with in the military

1214
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 3: who came and campaigned on my behalf. Many of them

1215
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: were not Marylanders, many of them were not dem Crats,

1216
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 3: but they were literally just coming in door knocking and saying,

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 3: I just want to tell you about the guy that

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Speaker 3: I served with, because I'm just a big believer in

1219
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: this time of this political divisiveness, in this time of

1220
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: this political vitriol, that service will save us because service

1221
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: is sticky, and those who serve together will generally stay together.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely, I want to make.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and I would love it if every young person

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01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: our society could spend a little bit of time being

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: part of something bigger than themselves, learning how remarkable this

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Speaker 3: country is and learning that that line between them and

1227
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Speaker 3: somebody else is not as thick as society wants us

1228
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: to believe.

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Speaker 1: That it actually is we got what two more?

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Speaker 3: And then we writer from.

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Speaker 5: Houston asks what do you believe is the best route

1232
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 5: for Maryland to overcome the significant redistricting roadblocks that have

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 5: occurred in the last few months.

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01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: I knew the audience is going to ask about redistricting.

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Speaker 1: I left it off.

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Speaker 3: I love it, and it's good to be in Texas,

1237
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: the home of this conversation in the first place. So

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: I've just been very clear. And I know you know, uh,

1239
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: you know. Listen here here's what I know. Every state

1240
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: goes through this process every decade after the census comes

1241
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 3: out that determines whether or not they have fair maps. Right,

1242
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump decided to start picking and choosing which

1243
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: states should go through this process mid decade.

1244
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: Didn't He didn't call all of us. He called some

1245
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: of us to include y'all. I called y'all first.

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: And my only thing is this is that when you

1247
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: look at this idea that if other if states are

1248
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 3: going to go through a mid decade process of determining

1249
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: whether or not they have fair maps. I don't know

1250
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 3: why some states should do this and some states should

1251
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 3: sit on their hands. My point is this is that

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: you know and and and by the way. This is

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01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: actually pretty consistent of what we have seen from Donald Trump,

1254
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: where you know, whether it's calling states and saying I

1255
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: need you to redistrict or whether it's calling election officials

1256
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: in Georgia and saying I need you to find me votes.

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Speaker 3: It's just very clear that when he knows his he

1258
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: cannot win on policies. So what does he do. He

1259
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: changes the rules, He rigs the game. And so my

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: only point is this, and why I you know, I

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: ordered a Governor's Redishing Advisory Commission in Maryland where we

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Speaker 3: now have a bipartisan group led by one of our senators,

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Speaker 3: Senator angel Alsobrooks, who's now leading a bipartisan group to

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: actually go talk to people, to listen to people, and

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Speaker 3: then decide whether or not Maryland has fair maps. Because

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Speaker 3: I am just I am very clear on this, and

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01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm hard set on it that if this country is

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Speaker 3: going to go and if parts of this country are

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: going to go through a mid decade process to determine

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Speaker 3: whether or not they have fair maps, then so will.

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Speaker 1: The state of Maryland.

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Speaker 4: And and Donald Trump is not going to choose what

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Speaker 4: our democracy looks like, the people of Maryland will choose

1274
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Speaker 4: what our democracy looks like.

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Speaker 3: And so our commission now is in place. They're already

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: doing wonderful work. They're going to come back with their recommendations.

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Speaker 3: But while we all can talk, you know, while we

1278
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: all can talk about a fair map process, I just

1279
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 3: believe deeply that democracy cannot be a spectator sport. Democracy

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Speaker 3: cannot be something where certain states are deciding and determining

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Speaker 3: whether or not they have fair.

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Speaker 1: Maps that we need to go through. Our process says.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be a process that involves real people

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01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 3: and revolves our input. And I'm excited for the fact

1285
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 3: that the state of Maryland, just like these other states,

1286
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 3: are going to move.

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Speaker 1: I will make sure.

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Speaker 3: That come next November, Maryland is voting with fair maps

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Speaker 3: and we will have a representative democracy that actually reflects

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Speaker 3: the wills and the hopes and the ambitions of the

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Speaker 3: people of my state.

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Speaker 5: Last one, Dan from Austin, asks, what's your pitch to

1293
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 5: get people to move from Texas to Maryland?

1294
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 3: And do you believe in your freedoms?

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Speaker 1: Do you now listen?

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 3: I mean I'm actually listening.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that lets start with the live music.

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Speaker 1: They're going to want to know if you have good

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Speaker 1: live music.

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Speaker 3: We actually have one of the best live music scenes

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Speaker 3: inside the inside the entire country. And that's real talk Maryland.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Baltimore is actually Baltimore. The Baltimore region has

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Speaker 3: actually been ranked as one of the top live music

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Speaker 3: scenes inside the country. But I know Austin y'all are

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Speaker 3: up there too, But Baltimore is great. But I will

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Speaker 3: say this in addition to the fact that, in addition

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Speaker 3: to the fact that you know, they call Maryland American

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Speaker 3: miniature for a reason, and it's because I don't care

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Speaker 3: what you tell me. You want to do. Tell me

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Speaker 3: what you want to do. Do you want to go

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Speaker 3: hike mountains? Do you want to go to beaches? Do

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Speaker 3: you want to go to ballgames? Do you want to

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Speaker 3: go see farmland? Tell me what you want to do,

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Speaker 3: and I can tell you how to have a world

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Speaker 3: class experience in Maryland within two hours. There's no place

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Speaker 3: in the country like that. And the other thing that

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Speaker 3: I would tell you why Maryland is so special, in

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Speaker 3: Maryland is so unique. I really think Maryland is the

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Speaker 3: best place in the world to change the world. I

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Speaker 3: really think Maryland is a place where we watch entrepreneurial

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Speaker 3: endeavors grow and thrive. I believe Maryland is a place

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Speaker 3: where we we actually respect people's freedoms and we respect

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Speaker 3: people's histories. That Maryland is a place that we actually

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Speaker 3: make sure that people have a chance to learn and

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Speaker 3: grow and be an inclusive society. That when Maryland, when

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Speaker 3: we were watching a larger debate that was taking place

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Speaker 3: around the country about things like reproductive health and reproductive rights,

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Speaker 3: that in Maryland, what do we do. We actually made

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Speaker 3: reproductive health part of Maryland's constitution so that no matter

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Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court says in Maryland, we will protect that.

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Speaker 3: That when we watch places around the country that were

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Speaker 3: banning histories and banning books and talking about what parts

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Speaker 3: of history we were going to remember and what parts

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Speaker 3: of history we were going to reflect, Well, what did

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Speaker 3: we do in the state of Maryland? I very proudly

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Speaker 3: sign legislation banning the banning of books. You cannot ban

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Speaker 3: books in my state. That we're talking about we're talking

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Speaker 3: about a state right now that is beautiful and diverse

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Speaker 3: and growing with one of the fastest job growth rates

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Speaker 3: inside the entire country, with a state that is truly

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Speaker 3: the epicenter of life sciences in it, and aerospace and defense.

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Speaker 3: That Maryland is the home of true national gems, likenists,

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Speaker 3: the NIH, and military installations like Fort Meade, one of

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Speaker 3: the largest military and veteran communities inside this entire country.

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Speaker 3: That we have some of the best academic and some

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Speaker 3: of the best academic measures inside the entire country, some

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Speaker 3: of the best public schools inside of America. That we

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Speaker 3: are a place that invests inside of our future. And

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Speaker 3: so I believe deeply, and it's not just because I

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Speaker 3: am biased. There's a reason that we are watching business

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Speaker 3: after business come and choose Maryland because this is a

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Speaker 3: chance for them to be able to grow and thrive,

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Speaker 3: and frankly, for their employee base to know that you're

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Speaker 3: not just going to have one of the best pipelines

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Speaker 3: for higher education in K twelve employees, but also a

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Speaker 3: place where your employee's visions and hopes for their future

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Speaker 3: can actually be realized and their freedoms are going to

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Speaker 3: be protected.

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Speaker 1: Let the record show he didn't mention Obay and Old Bay, Obay,

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Speaker 1: crab Cakes Baltimore Orioles, Baltimore, Ravens. You do not be

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you wouldn't put Old Bay on? Nothing? Olbay.

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Speaker 3: I think is actually the greatest spice because you can.

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Speaker 3: Obay is breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert is true.

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Speaker 1: I had Obay ice cream. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: It'll change your life.

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Speaker 1: It'll change your life. That's why you moved to Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Covin, Thanks your lu thank you everybody.