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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do alive on a Tuesday edition to

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Speaker 2: clear the Brown's Daily. I am merely bo. He is

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Speaker 3: Hello, yes, o, yeah, boy, oh baby, let's go oh boy,

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Speaker 4: Yeah good.

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: You know, living living large. A deluge yesterday throughout the

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Speaker 2: afternoon and uh oh for a bit of a wet

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Speaker 2: football practice for the fellas out there. We got it

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Speaker 2: in Bootsy and Beamsy start tonight, so we're we're all

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Speaker 2: in on the football. Had an interesting you know, the

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Speaker 2: desserts that the hoff gave us is walking away presents

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Speaker 2: and cookies and yeah yeah, nice treats.

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Speaker 3: An apple crumble one like Blondie looked pretty stout.

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Speaker 2: There was a macaroon was in there. There's a brownie

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Speaker 2: type thing and I want to say, a birthday cake

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Speaker 2: type thing. So last night after practice where I'm divving

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Speaker 2: it up and I'm you know, We're not gonna be gluttonous.

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Speaker 2: We do not have enough, but just a taste just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, beak, why wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: So Bootsy comes down, I'm like, Bootsy Brownie, Nope, what

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Speaker 2: are you talking about? You relentlessly pursue this type. That's

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Speaker 2: all you want. Rife is some sort of a drink

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Speaker 2: that's a treat, some sort of a snack that's a treat.

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Speaker 2: This is this is the pursuit. Yeah, and he goes, no,

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Speaker 2: not And so I'm like, come on, come on, just

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Speaker 5: You'll like it. He goes, yeah, I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: To eat healthy.

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Speaker 3: What so out of from I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I So football starts tonight, so I think he's like

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Speaker 3: To eat healthy. Come it was amazing display out of him.

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Speaker 2: I hope his brothers aren't listening right now. So I

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Speaker 2: go around the corn. I'm like, dude, what's really going on.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just trying to eat healthy. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I whispered to him, like I know you want this,

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Speaker 2: you know you want It'll be our secret. We all

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Speaker 2: know everybody knows this is. This is and it's fine,

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Speaker 2: like you're a young kid. They're supposed to pursue these endeavors. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So I gave him the little bite and news goes,

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Speaker 2: that's good.

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Speaker 5: I know, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Of course it's good.

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Speaker 2: Who's the hot streets?

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Speaker 3: Just like you're gonna go run around now and burn

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Speaker 3: that say, yeah to be young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, we had some injuries at the end of

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Speaker 2: practice yesterday, coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, we did have some injuries. And uh, I

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Speaker 3: have not seen so I don't give a if I

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm eager to get an update on Drew Forbes

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Speaker 3: as well. But Drew Forbes left with a back injury.

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Speaker 3: He was taken away on a backboard, obviously hoping that

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Speaker 3: that is okay. I have not seen or heard anything yet.

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Speaker 2: He's in a meeting.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Gibbe's not here. Uh. And then Jerome Ford

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Speaker 3: my guess is we will see the Browns make a

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Speaker 3: move if that is indeed what it is, and he's

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Speaker 3: surprised to see the Browns add a running back, and

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Speaker 2: In terms of Jerome Ford, this was something that was

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Speaker 2: so how do you think they handle that going forward?

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Speaker 2: Obviously you need somebody in here immediately, can't body standpoint,

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Speaker 2: But big picture, do you need to think differently about

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Speaker 3: You know, he missed some time as rookie season with

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Speaker 3: Green Beverth's for personal reasons. You know, we didn't the

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Speaker 3: him and know that that second running back role is important.

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Speaker 3: The days of Oh, you know, if Nick misses a game,

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Speaker 3: big Browns win. Those days are gone, those guys are

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Speaker 3: not here any more. Infect sounds like Karam's Hut's going

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Speaker 3: And I thought we saw some nice stuff from Dimitric

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Speaker 3: So I think it would be surprising if they ended

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Speaker 3: say Leonard Fournette, was willing to take a very like

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Speaker 2: I think still out there. It's like Fournette, Zeke dal

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Speaker 2: Alvin's cook is still out there.

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Speaker 3: McKissick.

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Speaker 2: That one makes some sense. The cook feels like he's

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was like to deal with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I already thought, but then we've waited. I mean,

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins too. It's like, Okay, this all sounds good

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Speaker 2: on paper, go to a team that feels like they

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Speaker 2: need more running back depth. But at the end, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's Marcellus Wallace, right. I mean, you have pride and

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Speaker 2: the Jets don't have anywhere near that amount, that's what

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Speaker 3: Totally nobody.

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Speaker 2: No one was willing to get there financially of the

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Speaker 2: the one that makes the most sense so or made

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Speaker 2: happening with Dalvin. I've seen nothing with Zeke anywhere.

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Speaker 3: There was some you know, New England, like a week

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Speaker 2: Maybe there would was there was some sort of momentum.

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Speaker 2: I not don't even know if it's a momentum if

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Speaker 2: he his name was just bandied about, but but him

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Speaker 2: still being out there as well. McKissick. That seems more

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Speaker 2: like what we would be thinking, is my guess, rather

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Speaker 3: Profile cat agreed. It feels like, right, I mean, a

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Speaker 3: So if you feel very comfortable with him as your runner,

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Speaker 3: if Dalvin Cook could sign with the Jets, that they

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Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, Abana Conda was I like that guy.

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Speaker 3: That guy had some juice to him. But that Michael

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Speaker 3: Carter would be somebody the Browns were interested. Ability to

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Speaker 3: as well, very good college curt in North Carolina. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Here beyond that. Once once we pushed off yesterday and

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Speaker 2: of the camp outside of these injuries, which obviously with

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Speaker 2: work that got done. What was your assessment.

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Speaker 3: A great day for Deshaun Watson and the offense in

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Speaker 3: the red zone in those periods he threw five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He was putting the ball into tight windows. A great reminder,

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Speaker 3: as Kevin Stefanski I just talked to him, A great

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Speaker 3: reminder of his ability to throw the ball in adverse

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Speaker 3: Elijah Moore continues to be a stud and you can

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Speaker 3: see their chemistry is incredible. Chief looked great in the

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Speaker 3: DPJ Schwartz even at a nice grab. And then they

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Speaker 3: did a four minute offense. Browns are up six, move

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Speaker 3: he played seven hundred and eighty three snaps last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's stunning. I mean, that's just a crazy Greg played

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Speaker 3: It's wild to me. So that was I saw that happens.

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Speaker 2: I know it. I It's one of those things where

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Speaker 3: Look again, so what he just back it? Stop? We

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Speaker 2: I think all of those things are wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we got to get him in here, sweat,

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you'll build towards that. So this

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Speaker 2: To need somebody that does feel like that's an immediate need.

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Speaker 4: Touch on the progress of the line.

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Speaker 7: Rookie Minichamp looked like he really struggled to I think

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Speaker 7: prove football focus.

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Speaker 5: That he didn't allow of pressure.

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Speaker 8: Uh while playing all the snaps the other night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, you know, for any rookie coming

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Speaker 4: in as an offensive lineman, it's going to be a process.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a learning scenario. Uh, and they're

466
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Speaker 4: gonna learn incrementally as they go along. I really thought

467
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: his past protection took some major steps. Uh. He still

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Speaker 4: has long ways to go yet. We're still working on

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Speaker 4: the run technique, aspects of his play to make him

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Speaker 4: a more complete player. But it was good to see

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Speaker 4: him perform, you know, under the lights against good competition,

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Speaker 4: you know, taking third down sets which are so critical

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Speaker 4: to protection. Yeah, a lot of positives. So we came

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Speaker 4: away please you know again, you know, as we look

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Speaker 4: at it, just the broad picture, you know, a broad

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Speaker 4: brush looking at it, you say, God is really good

477
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Speaker 4: because he did you know, he stayed in front, he

478
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Speaker 4: got his man, you know, he finished off. But there's

479
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 4: so many little things that he can improve upon, and

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Speaker 4: self admittingly, you know, he agrees with that. He can

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Speaker 4: see where he can improve his hands and his feet

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Speaker 4: and his body posture and obviously some of his overall

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Speaker 4: reactions encounters.

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Speaker 5: Are you unconcerned about his stamina after seeing him.

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Speaker 2: Play seventy four Snaris.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody's stamina k training camp can get better.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday we went through a no huddle you know period

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Speaker 4: where we really try to push our players and try

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Speaker 4: to tax them, you know, and take them to the

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Speaker 4: limit conditionally. And so I think they can always get better,

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Speaker 4: you know, especially with the temple things that we're doing

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Speaker 4: right now, trying to play at a higher tempo, playing

494
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Speaker 4: more on the ball. I think that's really positive and

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Speaker 4: it requires a lot of stamina, you know, especially when

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Speaker 4: you get into the later portions of the game.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't have seen at her James Hudson is he

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Speaker 5: heads a game.

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Speaker 4: Been really pleased with his progress coming in the training camp,

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Speaker 4: especially in the offseason. He did really good things from

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Speaker 4: a technique perspective. He showed growth, he showed maturity. I

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Speaker 4: love his passion, So his temple has picked up, his

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Speaker 4: aggressiveness has picked up. I like his swing versatility that

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Speaker 4: he gives us. He's become a more a better player

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Speaker 4: because of his intelligence. He's smart, he can anticipate quicker.

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Speaker 4: His past sets have improved. But you know, again, like

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Speaker 4: you know, we're still going through training camp, so we're

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Speaker 4: excited about his progress. We just want to see that

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Speaker 4: consistency you know, extend throughout you know, this period going

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Speaker 4: into the season came.

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Speaker 8: He is Ernesto.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we really like him a lot. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: been banged up the last week, so he was not

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Speaker 4: able to get all the reps that we wanted him

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Speaker 4: to get in practice and in the game. But we're

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Speaker 4: looking forward to the next three weeks, you know, or

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Speaker 4: the next three games, that is, to see him more

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Speaker 4: earlier so that we can get a good evaluation of

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Speaker 4: him against good competition. But we've been pleased. You know,

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Speaker 4: here's a guy that my got. He was he was

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Speaker 4: a tight end a few years ago, and he's transitioned

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Speaker 4: not only from a skill position but into a power position.

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Speaker 4: He's added additional weight. I got he's up around three

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pounds now, so I think and we

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Speaker 4: feel that he's still grown into his body. He's still

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Speaker 4: making adjustments, making tweaks, but he's really athletic. He's shown

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Speaker 4: the ability to get on the edge, you know, and

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Speaker 4: pass protect against good speed rushers and now it's just

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Speaker 4: a matter of put it all together. You know, his

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Speaker 4: run technique is past technique or really excited about what

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Speaker 4: he brings in terms of swing value for us.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel that it's at all a little little

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Speaker 5: risky if you went into the Simson and on the

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Speaker 5: Hudson Jones as your backup tackles a lot of veteran

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Speaker 5: presence there.

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Speaker 4: I know, Hudson's in his thirty year now, but well

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Speaker 4: you got Tyrone Wheeley who's been with us as well,

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Speaker 4: so hopefully we can take five into the season with us.

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Speaker 4: You know, I really feel, and I know Andrew feels

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Speaker 4: this way as well, that you can never have enough

541
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Speaker 4: of those tackles, you know, because that's a commodity, and

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Speaker 4: the more you can develop them and train them, it

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Speaker 4: just adds to your depth. So we feel like we've

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Speaker 4: got really good depth, you know, and we're always looking

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Speaker 4: to add another another player to develop at that position.

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Speaker 4: But boy, tackles they come and go, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're the durability, you know, the pumping that they go through,

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Speaker 4: and of course, for the seventeen game season now, the

549
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Speaker 4: durability issue is really huge, you know, So you may

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Speaker 4: lose one or two for a period of time, hopefully

551
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Speaker 4: not too long, but those guys that come in, you know,

552
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Speaker 4: they got to step up and play immediately.

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Speaker 5: Thinking of like a Humber type, Yeah, six seven years

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Speaker 5: in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't see the need right now for that

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Speaker 4: type of player on I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 4: we have a young group of guys that are have

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Speaker 4: good experience, not great, but good enough where you know

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Speaker 4: they can come off and play. And of course, when

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Speaker 4: you have a young rookie player, when you draft them

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Speaker 4: in the fourth round, they're gonna play. You know, whether

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Speaker 4: you like it or not. In this day and age,

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Speaker 4: the young players are gonna play. There's no such thing

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Speaker 4: in my mind as a backup. I think I stated

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Speaker 4: that before. Those guys are gonna play, and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: play early, and whether you like it or not, if

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Speaker 4: they get drafted, they're gonna play. And so you know

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Speaker 4: they're gonna you know, Dewan may be in that situation,

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Speaker 4: you know, I hope hopefully not. I hope we keep

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Speaker 4: our guys healthy, but you never know. And then there's

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Speaker 4: also you know, those extended roles where they come in

572
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Speaker 4: as a as a substitute tight end, you know, gives

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Speaker 4: a little more power on the edge, so that goes

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Speaker 4: into the thinking as well, so we can kind of

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Speaker 4: spoon feed those young tackles into the play, similarly like

576
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Speaker 4: we did last year with James Hudson Michael Dunn, where

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Speaker 4: they come in there and they play that why position.

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Speaker 2: This is such a year for Jed Wills.

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Speaker 5: Just what have you seen from him in the evolution

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Speaker 5: or development.

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Speaker 2: Going into ideas with.

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Speaker 4: Your Yeah, I think he's really progressed there. You know,

583
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Speaker 4: we amount of last year's film evaluation, the scheme eval

584
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: from offseason, and we saw a lot of positive things

585
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Speaker 4: in his play. We saw steps, you know. Now, we

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Speaker 4: wanted to be more physical. We want it to be

587
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Speaker 4: more I would say more consistent in terms of the finish,

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Speaker 4: and we like to see that finish become more more violent,

589
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Speaker 4: you know, more physical. I think we're pushing that. We've

590
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: had long conversations about that, and you know Jeed he's

591
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: a great kid, you know, and he takes constructive criticism well,

592
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 4: he takes challenge as well, so he's up for it.

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00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: You know, he wants to get better. He's shown that

594
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Speaker 4: in the off season. He's shown that in training camp.

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Speaker 4: He's becoming a more consistent past protector. We've added some

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Speaker 4: things to his repertoire in terms of technique. So we're

597
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Speaker 4: really hopeful and I know that he's really challenged, you know,

598
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: to get better and improved because you know there's some

599
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: big things out there ahead of him.

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Speaker 5: At this point in your career.

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Speaker 6: Out we're learning to see how young guys, whether it's.

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Speaker 5: Wan Chai Chat, you know, take that extra step, you

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Speaker 5: take that coaching a.

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Speaker 4: Hard Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, you know, that's what

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00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: we do it for, you know, to help these guys.

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Speaker 4: So when you see players emerge and improve, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's gratifying as a coach, but I'm really thrilled for them,

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Speaker 4: you know, as a player, you know. I mean that's

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00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: that's what we're here for, is to help them and

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Speaker 4: the players you know, when when when you can show

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00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: them things that can improve their game, you know, you

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00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: just develop a trust between each other and that just

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. As we go around the league, I did

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Speaker 2: think this was interesting for Schefter. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's just because maybe this doesn't happen as much

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Speaker 2: been over a million times. Like that depth chart's put

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Speaker 2: especially that one that earlier in the week.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's probably why it's kind of funny, right, But

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Speaker 2: The media team would put or well maybe that came

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Speaker 2: from up top. I don't know, but is it. You

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Speaker 2: guys are far more your NFL depth chart guy, far

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Speaker 2: more than me. In college, this happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: There's like eight oars on every depth chart.

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 2: How do they do? Do they never have oars in

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Speaker 2: the NFL?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, he made it sound

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Speaker 3: probably pretty like I've never noticed on but I'm not

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Speaker 3: looking for it either. Sure, whereas in college it's every

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Speaker 5: Not an NFL?

654
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's an NFL versus college thing because when

655
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: I saw it, I'm like, every week.

656
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So apparently it's been rough today. I was reading

657
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: it today. They were like picks all over the field.

658
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Jenna Laye, I saw her.

659
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: He had, like he said, thrown like nine picks in

660
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: there today.

661
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh geez.

662
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: So currently their defense looks on brand of the Ravens

663
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 5: Championship defense of two thousand. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're on

664
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 5: par for that.

665
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: So here's the thing though, Like in Jenna because we've

666
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: had on the show before. She's a good friend of

667
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: the program. She said that you know from the coaches,

668
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: like Baker is the way that she spun it was

669
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: Baker is willing to make mistakes and try things in practice,

670
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: where Trask is not. Like to me, I see absolutely

671
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: no point in playing Baker Mayfield if you're Tampa Bay

672
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: unless you just want to just get this season over

673
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: with and go to the bottom. But you could do

674
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: the same thing with Trask. They drafted Trask, he's been

675
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: in their system for three years around let him see

676
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: if he can play. I see no point in playing

677
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Baker if you're you're Tampa Bay. He's not the long

678
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: term solution for you. He's not that, and he's not

679
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: in the short term. There's it's pointless.

680
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: No, he's I think right now, he's probably best suited

681
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: to being like on a really good team as the

682
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: backup to so that in the event that something catastrophic happens,

683
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: your really good, ready made team season is not lost.

684
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: You can still go to the playoffs and hope that

685
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: he gets hot, and you know, you have a chance

686
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: to make a little bit of a run, especially in

687
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: the NFC.

688
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: Like well, We saw that with the Rams last year

689
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football when he came in, it was

690
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: it Thursday Night Football.

691
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: It was the game against the Broncos. Well, yeah, then

692
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: he had the game against the Raiders where he came in, Like,

693
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: to me, Dallas makes it would have made a would

694
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: have been a great spot for him to back up

695
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: Dak and the event Dak goes down in Texas, you know,

696
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 3: and then he gets to basically be the guy that

697
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: would be able to play with those in that system.

698
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: But you're right, I think it's a tough it's a

699
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: tough spot for them, and it is interesting why it's

700
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: a competition. To me, Baker, you would only start if

701
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: you believe he gives he has a chance to be

702
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: your franchise quarterback, right yeah, and if not, you got

703
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: to see what your second round pick Trass does. And

704
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: then ultimately what you want is if neither of them

705
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: are your franchise quarterback, you don't want to win. You

706
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: want to get a franchise quarterback. You trade Mike Evans,

707
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: you trade God, when you trade Devin, all these guys.

708
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: And Baker can make enough place to take you out

709
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: of that number one spot. Yes, No, doubt with that

710
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: wide receiver room, Yes for sure.

711
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the crazy all right, So let's do guess the

712
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: stats for you guys. When do you think in what

713
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: year did does Baker Mayfield? Did Baker Mayfield throw for

714
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: his highest percentage of completions as an NFL quarterback.

715
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty, Zugura.

716
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty feels like a good answer. I feel like

717
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: he would have to come with Stefanski, but maybe like

718
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, I'll just throw it was like a weird.

719
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Two thoy eighteen his rookie year. He's sixty three point

720
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: eight thirty seven twenty five, twenty seven and fourteen as

721
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: a rookie, and you wonder why all the Kolaid in

722
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: the world is being slurped up. I mean, that's pretty

723
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: good as a rookie. Yeah, sixty four percent thirty seven,

724
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty seven and fourteen. He's sixty two point

725
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: eight in twenty twenty, which was twenty six touchdowns, eight picks.

726
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: It was his best year.

727
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: That was his best year, for sure. We go eleven

728
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: and five. That was his best year. Twenty twenty one.

729
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: It falls off a cliff obviously, and then last year

730
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: he's he went one in five as the quarterback in

731
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Carolina fifty eight percent, and then he was one in

732
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: three the quarterback of the Rams and was sixty three

733
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: point six percent, four touchdowns, two picks, so yards per

734
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: game in Arizona one eighty seven and one's seventy is

735
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: actually his biggest yards per games as a rookie.

736
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 5: He was two sixty six as a rookie. Well didn't

737
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: he and he set the touchdowns?

738
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he set the touchdown rook and then Herbert broke

739
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: it the next year though, right, I think, yeah.

740
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: What was he in nineteen because that was a year

741
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: we had I think two one thousand yard receivers. I

742
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: know we were not good.

743
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: He was thirty eight twenty seven, twenty two touchdowns, twenty

744
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: one picks, fifty nine point four fifty nine completion percentage. Yeah, yeah,

745
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: like he's twenty twenty eight years old. Like you know,

746
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: at this point, it is what it is. And if

747
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: you're Tampa Bay, I just you know, I don't see

748
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: the point of it. I didn't understand the signing. I

749
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: suppose you know, we do this thing in the morning

750
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: where we go two teams half a division every day

751
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: leading up to the kickoff of the regular season, where

752
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: we just finished the NFC North this morning with the

753
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: Vikings in Green Bay. And you talk to people who

754
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: cover those teams, and you look at those rosters, and

755
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: you could look at any one of the four and

756
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: say you could go win the division. Minnesota is the

757
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: clear favorite. They should be, they were thirteen and four.

758
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people like Detroit a lot

759
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: obviously Chicaga, but why not Chicago with Fields? You start

760
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: to see what they did in Green Bay. The last

761
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: time they did this, it was Rogers And if they

762
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: like love, you must be something to him. So I'm

763
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: guessing that's how you end up in this spot. If

764
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: you're Tampa Bay, you're like this in the NFC we

765
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: strike lightning in the bottle with Maybe Mayfield can be

766
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: what he was in twenty twenty. If we can get

767
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: that out of him that made me good enough to

768
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: win the Division.

769
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: Nine and eight gets you to the playoffs.

770
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean, my god, Carolina's in there with a rookie quarterback.

771
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Atlanta's going to go with Ritter. The Saints have cars.

772
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: But did you see said Daniel Jeremiah was on with

773
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: Eisen and said that he thinks that the if perty

774
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: is the starter, he thinks that Atlanta should try to

775
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: bring get Trey Lance. That makes sense, Yeah does it?

776
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 5: What? What? What's that going to cost you?

777
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: Not much much of this, I don't know, not going

778
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: to be first or anything like that. I mean it

779
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: will be a second at best. Yeah, yeah, that's smart.

780
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: We have no idea if Trey Lance can play at

781
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: all though. No, we're basing it entirely off of really

782
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: Kyle's belief in him and John Lynch. Like it's one

783
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: year at North Akota State, one year in one game,

784
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: remember they played the one game his team did just

785
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: for him. That's it.

786
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: That's it.

787
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: There's nothing like, you have no idea what that cat

788
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: could be? Our old buddy John Johnson. The third, he

789
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: is heading home. He is signing with the Rams on

790
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: a one year deal.

791
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 5: Back then, this is the weirdest one because do you

792
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 5: remember the first day of free agency he signed with

793
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 5: the Chargers and then there was nothing. There was nothing official,

794
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: nothing made official. Didn't know what was going on, and

795
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 5: then it was okay, he's a post. He's a June

796
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: first cut post, June first cut. So you got to

797
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: wait for that that happens he still doesn't doesn't become official,

798
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 5: and then finally becomes official this week.

799
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing.

800
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 5: Well, if they don't win, I can tell you what

801
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 5: they're going to do.

802
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: I mean that it's so, I mean they The one

803
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: thing I will say is their division. You know, they

804
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: probably look they clearly are behind San Francisco. But if

805
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: they can match, can they be similar to Seattle? Are

806
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: they hoping that Gino Smith was an aberration and that

807
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: he reverts back to what he's been and that you

808
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: can be the second best team in that division? And

809
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: then then are you a playoff team? But they've got

810
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: holes everywhere?

811
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: O my god.

812
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird roster.

813
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: Seattle's pretty good.

814
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: They're pretty good. I mean, if if Gino is what

815
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: he is, what he was, if that's him, then they're

816
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: pretty Their skill guys.

817
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: Are unbelievable, very good, and their defense has some really

818
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: good players.

819
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Their receiving corps is as good as any in the league.

820
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm getting by the time the season's over, metcalf, Lockett,

821
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba. Yeah, I'd put them up with They

822
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: can hang. They can absolutely hang. Kareem Hunt reportedly signing

823
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: with the Saints following the news at Alvin Kamara was suspended.

824
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: So Kareem goes to New Orleans. I like that fit

825
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: for him.

826
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can run catch it be indoors with Derek Carr. Yeah,

827
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a good a good spot for him

828
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: and we'll see what, you know, what he's got, what

829
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: he's got left.

830
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: It did feel like it was he didn't have the

831
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: same explosive nature last year as he did previously.

832
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: No, it was. It was in many and really kind

833
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: of was in some ways as a result, phased a

834
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: little bit out of the offense as the season went on.

835
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: Last year, three point eight yards per carry for Kareem

836
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: and he averaged six yards of catch, which were both

837
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: amongst his His yards per touch on the season were

838
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: four point three yards per touch, one of the lows

839
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: of his career. So he yeah, you could see it

840
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: a little bit, but they're definitely you know, in spots

841
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: and in burse Kareem hunts shown a guy you know

842
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: who could be really good. He just really hasn't been

843
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: the same honestly since that twenty twenty season. You know,

844
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, he goes out there in twenty twenty

845
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: rushes for eight hundred and forty one yards, six touchdowns,

846
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: four point two yards carry goes into twenty one, and

847
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: he still had in twenty one twenty one eight games,

848
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: three eighty six, five touchdowns, four point nine yards of carriage,

849
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: which was a career high. Uh and was averaging like

850
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 3: eight yards of catch those two seasons dropped to six

851
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: last year, career lows in every in everything last year.

852
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: But that injury. Maybe you know that injury in twenty

853
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: twenty one when you're running back it was to his leg.

854
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it just took a little bit more out of

855
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: him than you know, we knew at the time.

856
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: You saw the story Ona Washington. Did you guys see

857
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: this with their the Enemy?

858
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 5: It's insane? Yea.

859
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: So Ron Rivera's hand pick coordinator b enemy.

860
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: Yep.

861
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Apparently he's tough.

862
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: He's very hard on players. Ver he has like a

863
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: very direct and very kind of aggressive way with players.

864
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: Like which is fine. But I'm guessing that was in

865
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: the brochure could have been vetted very easily. I have

866
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: never seen a coach do what Rivera did. Rivera said

867
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: some players came to him a little concern, like he

868
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: aired this publicly. He said quote, I had a number

869
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: of guys come to be and I said, hey, just

870
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: go talk to him. I said, understand that he's trying

871
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: to get across you as they go and they talk

872
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: and they listen to him. It's been enlightening for a

873
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Speaker 2: lot of these guys. I mean, it's a whole different approach.

874
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Rivera went on to say, as a coach, I have

875
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: to assimilate and get a feel for everybody. Eric has

876
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: an approach. It's a way he does things. It's not

877
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: going to change because he believes in it, and then

878
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: compares it to Jack's approach, and then he said Jack

879
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: has attended to try to figure you guys out a

880
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: little bit more as opposed to, hey, this is it,

881
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: this is the way it's going to be, that type

882
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: of stuff. Eric hasn't had that experience yet and aired

883
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Speaker 2: all of this publicly. I'm surprised Rivera aired.

884
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: It so shocking. I think that if you were talked

885
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: to people in coaches circles and say no, probably not

886
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: the way I'd go about it.

887
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: But training camp weaked.

888
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is also a guy who claimed to not

889
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: know that losing to the Browns last year. In Week seventeen,

890
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: which was a sixth game season eliminated that team from

891
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Remember he said that, he said.

892
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: He getting an ice cream cone as he drove past

893
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: me out of the stadium.

894
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, like all right, so Ron's doing it

895
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe some some different ways than than others.

896
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I tell you, it's I just know.

897
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Speaker 2: You just rarely see coach on coach crime, especially this

898
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: early in that thing, that this guy who just picked

899
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: up that just bought that team, he's got a lot

900
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: to clean up.

901
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 5: Well, coaching staff's on borrowed time.

902
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: Should be by a team. You want to start over,

903
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna clean a house and the coaching staff

904
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: in the front office, and you're gonna want to start over.

905
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna redo the brand, You're gonna do everything. You

906
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: got to build a stadium. They paid six billion, and

907
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: it's a it's a build. It's not a rebuild. It

908
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: they're building. They got to build stadium, rebrand, relationship with

909
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: the community, coaching staff, it's a lot, and it's a

910
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: nice roster. It's a really good defense. They've got some weapons. Offensively,

911
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: they need a quarterback.

912
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Speaker 5: We had a conversation last night on the Browns preview show.

913
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Speaker 5: Can you make an argument they're the second best team

914
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: in the NFC East Philly's number one? Can you make

915
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Speaker 5: an argument that was not.

916
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Speaker 2: Yet on Howell? I can't because I just haven't seen it.

917
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: If you take a quarterback out of it, if you

918
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: take quarterback out of it, then you can start to

919
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: have a conversation with them.

920
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: The defensive front is their defensive front is really what

921
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean. Weapons are pretty good, have the talent they do.

922
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: But I think that to label them that, I think

923
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: is a is a bridge too far.

924
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: It's probably to me. In the NFC, it's Philly, San Francisco, Dallas,

925
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Minnesota Jet Giants, and then that's kind of I've putting.

926
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Speaker 5: I will not put Danny Dick.

927
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Speaker 3: He would be below won a playoff game last year,

928
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: he'd be.

929
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Speaker 5: The King.

930
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Speaker 3: Not a great record last year.

931
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Speaker 2: It's hard man that that conference is brutal, brutal. It's

932
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Speaker 2: just unfortunately, no, unfortunately, not like if you prepare it,

933
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Speaker 2: you swap us in the Lions. You're walking toe to

934
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935
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Speaker 3: Yes, well it certainly helps.

936
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Speaker 2: We'll figure out Philly next week. But I mean, yeah,

937
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: it's yes, Yeah, it's it's really that's a big project,

938
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Speaker 2: that Washington project. That that Harris guy. He's got a

939
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Speaker 2: big job. It's complicated. You got to build a stadium, man. Yeah,

940
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Speaker 2: that's repair a relationship between a fan base and it's

941
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Speaker 2: football team. You got to rebrand it back to something

942
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Speaker 2: that makes people happy. You got to get rid of

943
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Speaker 2: all the Snyder stuff. There's a lot of Snyder's steak

944
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Cleve Brown's Daily Time. Now for one

961
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Speaker 3: of the great friends of the program. We had him

962
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Speaker 3: in studio last week. Now we get a chance to

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Speaker 3: actually spend some time with them. Linebacker coach Jason Tarvor,

964
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Speaker 3: Coach Harv, how you doing.

965
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 8: Man, I'm doing great. It's great to be back. Yeah,

966
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 8: it was awesome. The guys got better, but it's nice

967
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Speaker 8: to be home.

968
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Speaker 3: I'm sure it is. And it was nice to have

969
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: a game and some game film to watch your young

970
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: linebackers getting a lot of opportunities. Really, four guys go

971
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: the whole game. What did you see from those guys?

972
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: And we'll start with Jordan, who you know got the start,

973
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: was out there and just such a pro.

974
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 9: Jordan was outstanding the first third down of the game.

975
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 9: That's teach tape forever, where he took away routes and

976
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 9: then triggered to make the play on the quarterback and

977
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 9: that was a big play. Jordan has gotten better every

978
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 9: day in camp and he's showing it and he's playing

979
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 9: all positions. Can't say enough about Jordan. He is He's

980
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 9: what you want to be. You know, He's what you

981
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 9: want to have on your football team. Never doesn't care

982
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 9: where he plays and gets in the right spot, makes.

983
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: Place he most certainly does. Tony Field's going into his

984
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: third year, played a lot led the team and tackles

985
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: in that game, and you could see in the run game,

986
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: I felt like he was just fly. He can fly

987
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: the ball and he can hit the running back and

988
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: he did that I think six times five stops right

989
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: near the line of scrimmage.

990
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, Tony was really good in the run game. Like

991
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 9: you said, what Tony does is he's using his hands

992
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 9: really well. He refuses to stay blocked. One of the

993
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 9: things that we having the linebacker's room is finish every

994
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 9: down on block, no matter what, and Tone does that.

995
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 9: We don't want to finish tied up with these guys

996
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 9: that can big and hold in this league. We want

997
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 9: to get off a block. So that's one thing Tony does.

998
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 9: He also does a really good job of targeting his tackles,

999
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 9: like his eyes in the right spot and.

1000
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 8: You'll see him take cleats out of the ground.

1001
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 9: You can't run without your legs, right, and Tony does

1002
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 9: a great job of getting his body to positions around tackles,

1003
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 9: and he's gotten better and better and better at it

1004
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 9: and making sure that people aren't running anymore by scooping

1005
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 9: legs up and getting them out of the ground and

1006
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 9: then finishing and celebrating. So Tony this week has learned

1007
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 9: there's some things to fix from the game, and he's

1008
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 9: fixed some of them this week in practice. So let's

1009
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 9: see how this goes this weekend at home. And I'm

1010
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 9: excited to watch.

1011
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: Tone Yeah, he's been fun to watch kind of his evolution.

1012
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: He's the guy so productive in college those hundred tackle seasons,

1013
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: and to see him kind of have that confidence again,

1014
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: I think is exciting. And then I know you love

1015
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: the undrafted free agents. That's what kind of part of

1016
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 3: the preseason about these guys scrapping and fighting and cling

1017
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: to make this roster. And Charlie Thomas my mood to

1018
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: your body both I thought had very strong games. To

1019
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 3: see them flying around times. We'll start with Charlie. Five

1020
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: tackles and had the best hit of the game where

1021
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: he just flew to the sideline, decleted the ball carrier,

1022
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: ball came out. Unfortunately, couldn't get it. We couldn't get

1023
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: a recovery too close sideline. But a pretty strong star

1024
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: from a guy who's very productive at Georgia Tech.

1025
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, Charlie. Charlie's gotten better and better since he's been here.

1026
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 9: He got here in the off season and he put

1027
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 9: in the work to gain some weight and strength, and

1028
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 9: he's also on the flexibility program that some of our

1029
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 9: linebackers are Tony, Jacob Phillips some of the others, and

1030
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 9: our guys do a great job and the Strength Department

1031
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 9: of building flexibility plans for these guys, because what happens

1032
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 9: is you got to get your hips and you're growing

1033
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 9: really strong to be able to put your foot in

1034
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 9: the ground and break it linebacker. If your hips are strong,

1035
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 9: then you got a chance to move. And Charlie on

1036
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 9: a couple of those plays, you can see already how

1037
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 9: he's built himself into more power. He is very smart,

1038
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 9: and he's fun to be around. He gets better every day.

1039
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 9: So Charlie's this is the R two and I'll talk

1040
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 9: about my moon a second. I mean, these two guys

1041
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 9: are there, fun to be around, they're tough, they're smart,

1042
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 9: they're quick, and they love football.

1043
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: So how what was the reaction in the meeting room,

1044
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: either the defensive one or in the linebacker room to

1045
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: Charlie's play, because I'll tell you what it looked like.

1046
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: You could see it coming and it looked like he

1047
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: just accelerated at a different speed than everybody else on

1048
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: the field, and you wondered about what the size of

1049
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: would you have the power? H Yeah, he's got the power.

1050
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's like I said, he's gained weight and he's

1051
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 9: still on his way up because our strength. But we

1052
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 9: know where he needs to be and he's really working

1053
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 9: on it. And players have to play learn how to

1054
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 9: play with their added weight because they have to learn

1055
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 9: how to push through that. But yeah, we showed that

1056
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 9: in the full defensive meeting and in the linebacker room.

1057
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 8: So now big hits are called a Charlie.

1058
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 9: So that's one thing that we have because things that

1059
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 9: are really good can be named after players so that

1060
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 9: we reference them. So that is one thing that we're

1061
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 9: saying at the moment, a.

1062
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: Big hit is a Charlie. He's got to like that,

1063
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: all right. You taught mentioned my mood and a guy

1064
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: who I thought was just really stood out the Greenbrier.

1065
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: Good practices gets in the game, you know, and it's

1066
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: his first game in the NFL. Some good, some bad,

1067
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: but you could the athletics and desire, and I thought

1068
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: he had that great blitz. It was negated obviously by

1069
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: that the false offside penalty on the defense, but you

1070
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: can see he has that acceleration, that power and that burst.

1071
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and he likes contact.

1072
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 9: So my Mood started the game playing next to Jordan

1073
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 9: and Tony, and he hadn't played as many reps at

1074
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 9: that position, so early was great learning for him. Then

1075
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 9: as he moved back to and he also learned in

1076
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 9: the NFL that it's really hard to get off of blocks,

1077
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 9: even if you're big and strong like him. If you

1078
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 9: go right down the middle, you got to get on edge.

1079
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 9: You've got to use your hands, and that takes everybody

1080
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 9: some time to learn, but my Mood learned it really

1081
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 9: fast early in that game, and by the end of

1082
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 9: the game he was shedding blocks really well. He is

1083
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 9: very physical, he's very smart, he's very direct, and he

1084
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 9: when you challenge him, he likes contact a lot. So

1085
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Speaker 9: I'm excited to see where he goes in these next

1086
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Speaker 9: few games.

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00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna it's an exciting room. There's gonna be a

1088
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 3: lot of competition in that room and some tough decisions

1089
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: for general manager Andrew Berry when we pair this thing

1090
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: down to fifty three. But let's talk about some of

1091
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: the guys that we haven't seen in games, but we've

1092
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: seen and in regular season games for years for the

1093
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: Cleveland Rounds. To start with Anthony Walker Junior. How's he

1094
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: doing coming back from that quad injury.

1095
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 8: He's doing well.

1096
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 9: He's starting to get some limited practice reps. He came

1097
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 9: out his first day, he looked really quick, mostly in

1098
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 9: seven on seven, But he's been coaching our guys and

1099
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 9: he goes out and he just executes. So it's cool

1100
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 9: to see the very first play, he's in the perfect spot,

1101
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 9: gets a great break on the ball and makes it incomplete.

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Speaker 8: So he's doing well.

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Speaker 9: We just got to keep him progressing and he'll do

1104
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 9: more and more in each practice as we go here

1105
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 9: through camp.

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Speaker 3: How about talk love talk talk is uh.

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Speaker 8: He just wants to hit things right now as usual.

1108
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 9: I think he's up talk to the media at the moment,

1109
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 9: but he is full of energy and ready to go

1110
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 9: great in the room. You know, he's the sheriff, he's

1111
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 9: the enforcer. You know, you you gotta love it. Every

1112
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 9: day he's the same and he's doing the same thing

1113
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 9: as Anthony. They're they're practicing more each day and we're

1114
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 9: limiting them in certain situations.

1115
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 8: But there he's moving around.

1116
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, all right, you're right, he's at the Look at

1117
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: those quads. What is going on with those squads? I

1118
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: mean that is insane.

1119
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 9: Yep, he just walked away from the podium, but it's soon.

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00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 9: He's worked his tail off to get back from his injury.

1121
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 9: Really good job of getting his flexibility and his power

1122
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 9: back early and progressing really really well.

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Speaker 8: So very excited as always.

1124
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: All right, how's Jacob Phillips? And he's he looks great.

1125
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: He's so tantalizing whenever he does play. He is so productive,

1126
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: you know last year two and a half seats or

1127
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: two sacks. He always gets his hands on the ball

1128
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: in the pass game, can run, can hit, all of it.

1129
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: Got to stay healthy, right, But how's he looked? Because

1130
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 3: to me, he looks great, I mean physically looks bigger

1131
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: than ever.

1132
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Greenbrier. He was finding his footing and

1133
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 9: getting going. Some days we're better than others. Since he's

1134
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 9: been back, the practices have gotten more and more consistent.

1135
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 9: He's had some run pass raids and our offense is

1136
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 9: not easy to read run pass on. But he's had

1137
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 9: some run pass raads that have been outstanding. So it's

1138
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 9: just continuing to work with Jacob. It's just continuing to

1139
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 9: trust himself, not overthinking, right because he has that great

1140
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: he has great feel for reading run pass and he

1141
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 9: needs to let himself stay in that mode, don't overthink

1142
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 9: things and as if he continues to do this, he'll

1143
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 9: be right in the right spot of where we need him.

1144
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 9: It's been shedding blox well, he's been running his feet

1145
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 9: better on contact, which with that much power, now that's good.

1146
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 9: So that's our emphasis and it's just for him. It's

1147
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 9: practicing hard, being the same dude every day and don't

1148
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 9: make up anything. Just just see it, hit it, run.

1149
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 9: You don't need to be perfect because you can solve

1150
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 9: it with your shed and your violence and run.

1151
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: And hit no doubt it. He can solve a lot

1152
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: of things with that physicality. All rights called Jeremiah Usukormo.

1153
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: Going into his third season, we saw such great things

1154
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: in that rookiear. We saw such great flash as I

1155
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: would even say in his second year, the questions can

1156
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 3: he put it all together and become a superstar. What

1157
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: are you seeing from Jeremiah so far this year.

1158
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 8: Well, we've had two things that we wanted to work on.

1159
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 9: Right number one and we've said this and said it's

1160
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 9: the media at the end of the year say it

1161
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 9: every time is get strong. He's done a good job

1162
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 9: of getting stronger and staying in his plan with his eating,

1163
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 9: with how he eats, how many times during the day,

1164
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 9: his workouts, because he's so competitive, he's gonna go when

1165
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 9: it's time to go, but it's when it's the off times,

1166
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 9: just staying on the plan that have to do with

1167
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 9: being strong. He's done that so far and he keeps going.

1168
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 9: This is really good. And then on the field. On

1169
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 9: the field is letting himself. He has a great feel

1170
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 9: for movement, for what's happening, for where the ball is,

1171
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 9: when to make quick decisions. It's when he isn't sure

1172
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 9: it slows himself down. And since he got back from Greenbrier,

1173
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 9: he's had some really good practices. Yesterday he had three

1174
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 9: or four what we call teaching reps and we label

1175
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 9: them and they were perfect. Whether or not he made

1176
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 9: the play, he went to the perfect spot his body

1177
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 9: and then he broke on the throw and those are increasing.

1178
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 9: If he keeps those increasing letting himself field football, then

1179
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 9: we're on the track. But these last couple of days

1180
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 9: it's been good. Now we got Tom continue to do

1181
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 9: this as he goes into these preseason games and not

1182
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 9: let any situation take him out of that. It's about

1183
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 9: him one play at a time and go. So those

1184
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 9: two things aren't going to change with them. It's taking

1185
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 9: care of his body, staying strong, and letting himself play

1186
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 9: one play at a time to the best of his ability.

1187
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: I love talking with you. I love the way you

1188
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: break down everything. I want to give some people some

1189
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 3: insight because we took a joke all the time about

1190
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: nobody loves ball more than you can. You take somebody

1191
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: into your office. I've had, you know, the great privilege

1192
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 3: to go in there and learn a lot about football

1193
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: from you, and I appreciate it greatly. But what it

1194
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: is that you do so when you watch a practice,

1195
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: the notes, you give, the detail, the thoroughness of it all,

1196
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: just kind of give them an idea of you know,

1197
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: coaching doesn't just happen on the field. A lot of it.

1198
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: Then it's going to happen. You watch tape and then

1199
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: are able to bring things back to the players.

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, we would. The process is the same for me.

1201
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 9: It's just what we say, the next play is going

1202
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 9: to be our best player. I learned that from to

1203
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 9: Kao Spikes. He would say that to himself as a

1204
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 9: young player in his helmet right when I was fortunate

1205
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 9: enough to coach Patrick Willis to Kaospikes, Navarro bowman, Jeff Ulbrick,

1206
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 9: all the great outside linebackers, almost teams of Mad Brooks,

1207
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 9: Paris Harrelson.

1208
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 8: Being the linebackers coach.

1209
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 9: Of those guys, taking in how to set your mind

1210
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 9: to make next plays the best play.

1211
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 8: That's what I do.

1212
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 9: So when I approach everything that way, if it's on

1213
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 9: a play, I want to get help the players by

1214
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 9: giving the best coaching comment that I can to get

1215
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 9: them to do it fast and simple and be able

1216
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 9: to go to the next play. So I input all that.

1217
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 9: We have columns for really good and we have columns

1218
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 9: for improve right, and so you don't want to be

1219
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 9: in the improved call them all day. You want to

1220
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 9: be in a good callump. So they know where they

1221
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 9: are and they get their numbers and everything they get

1222
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 9: feedback on so you can watch that on your own,

1223
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 9: you can watch it with us, cut it up, do everything.

1224
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 9: So that's just I want to give them my best

1225
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 9: on every play, and it's their job to do their

1226
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 9: best on every play and then learn from it. And

1227
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 9: that's how we work, and that's how we approach everything

1228
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 9: we do. Everything we do, whatever we're doing is the

1229
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 9: most important thing in that moment every day when we

1230
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 9: wake up, we're going to make the best day we've

1231
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 9: ever had done.

1232
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 8: That's it. That's how we approach it.

1233
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: I love it you. It is always great talk with you, coach.

1234
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the time. But good luck.

1235
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: Why do you want a personal question? Okay, all right,

1236
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 3: all right, person one, all right, how was the surfing

1237
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: this summer?

1238
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: It was good?

1239
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 8: It was good.

1240
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time new board.

1241
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 5: Right, got new board.

1242
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 8: You saw the pictures. I didn't use that one as much,

1243
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 8: but it was good.

1244
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 9: We had the fortunate time to spend some time in

1245
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 9: California to be able to go to Wai, so we

1246
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 9: surfed wiki Ki and both my boys were ever to

1247
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 9: surf waves with mommy and daddy, so that was really cool.

1248
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 9: A seal followed in my son after your road and

1249
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 9: was on the board, so he thought that was awesome.

1250
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 9: So it was good. I was in better shape than

1251
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 9: last year. I'm still not as good as my wife.

1252
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: Well listen, happy wife, happy life. You know that very well. Coach,

1253
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the time, man, you're the best.

1254
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 8: Appreciate it too.

1255
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: We'll be back to more Cleveland Browns Daily right after this.

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Speaker 2: Today around the sports world, you get a Ryder Cup

1265
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: decision to make. Is it JT or Deshambos?

1266
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 5: That's it.

1267
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: JT scrambled like heck, almost chipped in on eighteen, which

1268
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: would have got him inside the FedEx playoff, hit the

1269
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: pin and out and then Deshambo shot fifty eight down

1270
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: at the Greenbrier, right, of course you played last week.

1271
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for two weeks he beat me by eleven shots,

1272
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: which is a lot.

1273
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: Can he shot sixty nine on the Old White Yeah.

1274
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: Not from their teas. Yeah, their teas weren't open to us.

1275
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh they got them locked off.

1276
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah okay.

1277
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: But normally when you play, you played back. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1278
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: I mean some play like at Firestone, same thing. They

1279
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: didn't let us play from those teas. Sometimes teas are

1280
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: just there for the tour where they're like one hundred

1281
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: yards back. I mean, yes, yeah, it's a heck of

1282
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: a number of fifty eight. JT's so good on the

1283
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: Ryder Cup historically is one of the most successful Ryder

1284
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: Cup performers of all time. I feel like you got

1285
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: to put him on there and just know that he'll

1286
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: be there in those moments. I know he's been terrible's

1287
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: here with the Potter especially, but you just gotta know

1288
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: that he's gonna he's gonna do it.

1289
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: I think he's like the heartbeat guy the Operation, like

1290
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta have him on there. Everybody

1291
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: loves him, like, yes, I don't know that there's that

1292
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: same affinity for U. For Yeah, for the Shambo. He

1293
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have quite the same effect.

1294
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe, so no, no, go ahead.

1295
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 5: Who else is on it? Do we know?

1296
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: I mean I no, I don't know. I mean there's

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Speaker 2: some that are automatic.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: Who's the captain is exactly Jhnsen exact Johnson the right captain.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly right.

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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 2: It's in Rome, which I don't recall a Ryder Cup

1302
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: in Italy.

1303
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: No, you know that was a big deal when it

1304
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: went to Spain for the first time with sev Valdorama

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00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: Elma exactly.

1306
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: So it's somewhere in Rome is where they're playing really cool,

1307
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: so it'll look different.

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00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 5: Starts September twenty ninth. Yeah.

1309
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: I love the Ryder Cup.

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 5: I do, but like tough time of year, it is

1311
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 5: a real tough time.

1312
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Speaker 2: That's it. If they are insistent on keeping the players

1313
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry the PGA in August, which I don't

1314
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: think they should. But if they are, then they should

1315
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Speaker 2: run the President's Cup and Ryder Cup alternate.

1316
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 3: And it's up. It's earlier than that.

1317
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: EGA is in August now.

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: Already happened.

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, may I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Mayka used to be in August it's May, right, Yeah,

1321
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: August is where they should put.

1322
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: The PGA where it was was good. But if they

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00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: don't want to do that, then the rider or of

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Speaker 2: the President's every other year, every year you have one.

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Speaker 2: This right now, this is the window. It's the weird

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Speaker 2: window after the Hall of Fame weekend. There's a little

1327
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: lull right now you have our attention to try. I

1328
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: remember the President's Cup was at Mierfield a few years

1329
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: ago when I was down in Columbus and like I

1330
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: was at Northwestern covering a football game, and then the

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup was going on back in Columbus, and it's

1332
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: like all anybody want to talk about was the Buckeyes,

1333
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: and like one of the most prestigious golf events in

1334
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: the in the world was in your backyard and it

1335
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: was like eighth page.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

1337
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's such a tough spot to speaking of them.

1338
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: They lost a week. I don't know if you saw this.

1339
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: They officially the Memorial which has always come a Memorial

1340
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: tournament week down there starts the Tuesday after Memorial Day.

1341
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: That's when it goes. They moved it back up a week.

1342
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I guess it would be technically back a week,

1343
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 2: so it will now go the week before the US Open,

1344
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: So that's a big via. It's a big blow for

1345
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: Jack though, because they always liked the idea of play

1346
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: it rest it go to US Open. They always wanted

1347
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: the week as a buffer. I thought that was a

1348
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: big key in them getting a lot of the fields

1349
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: they got, but they move them up RBC Canadians swapped

1350
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: with them, so that's moving to that and I don't

1351
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: I know the people that Jack's placed are not pleased

1352
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: with the swap. So people they're worried because you know,

1353
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: like you might take the week off or you go

1354
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: early to the US Open site play some rounds, Like

1355
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: a lot of guys do that, Like they're worried they

1356
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: won't get the draw that they used to get. There's

1357
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 2: a time they get the top ten players in the world.

1358
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that doesn't happen anymore with Live and then

1359
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: for sure, now you move to the week before the

1360
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: US Open, it's not going to happen either. How do

1361
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: you wrap your head around the fact that cal and

1362
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: Stanford are in talks with the ACC.

1363
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean, because it doesn't matter anymore, it's not geographically based.

1364
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Speaker 3: It's going to be acc says, you know, these are

1365
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Speaker 3: some pretty programs that have history of times of being good.

1366
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: Stanford is one of the most prestigious.

1367
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 5: YEP.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how Stanford's on the Big Ten. I

1369
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: don't get it.

1370
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that they would. I think the last

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: card the Big Ten could play if they wanted to

1372
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Speaker 2: get to twenty would be to take Stanford for Notre Dame.

1373
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: And then that gets you to twenty. And you have

1374
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: two teams to conference, two sides of ten. Especially if

1375
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: the USC and Notre Dame run the one side of

1376
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: ten and Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State run the other side,

1377
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: you just put Washington in Oregon on the west side

1378
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: you put. I mean, it's pretty simple, straightforward to do.

1379
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: It feels easy, feels very easy. And for a conference

1380
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: that loves the tout it's academic, loves Stanford.

1381
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: I have no.

1382
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: Stanford's a great program, not in necessarily the biggest sports,

1383
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 3: but they dominate.

1384
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: They have finalists and luck who's the full back that

1385
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: they had there that finished in the top three and

1386
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: the Heisman the running back Brice No no no, uh,

1387
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: he was up there too. But there was another guy

1388
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: that he was a big white kid who was the

1389
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: full back who was like Toby Gerhard Gerhart, Yeah, yeah,

1390
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: he was a top five high god, yeah, he was

1391
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: a stage but they but yeah, I mean, it's crazy

1392
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: that the the Big ten doesn't do this and take

1393
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: Stanford in force Notre Dame and then they're done. They've

1394
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: done it twenty and that's a round. Guess. Let's let's

1395
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: do guess. Guess the stats endowment at Stanford in the

1396
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: billions forty Well, like you guys have no point of reference.

1397
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: So Ohio State's endowments seven seven billion, I stand at

1398
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: forty forty eighteen thirty six for Stanford thirty six billion

1399
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: dollar endowment. Now what do you think? The endowment is

1400
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: a col that everybody tells you they're broke and their

1401
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: athletic department.

1402
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 3: Is broke twenty twenty ten seven same.

1403
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: So, but the same as Ohio States at cal and

1404
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: everybody tells you Cow's broke because their athletic departments broke.

1405
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: But in terms of their school, they're great, They're in great, great.

1406
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 5: How is their athletic department broke? How are you broke?

1407
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: Mismanaged for years? Mismanaged for years? The other thing people

1408
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: don't realize about that and growing up out there, people

1409
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: don't understand how the distance in travel between like Los

1410
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: Angeles and Eugene, or Los Angeles and Corvallis, LA and Seattle,

1411
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: the Bay Area and Arizona, the Bay Area in Salt

1412
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Lake City, Boulder, Colorado, like the Big Ten, a lot

1413
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: of those, some of those trips for the non revenue sports,

1414
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: you hop at a bus and you drive for a

1415
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: lot of them to ann Arbor to East Lansing, to

1416
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: West Lafayette to Bloomington, Like you don't fly on all

1417
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: those Well in that conference, you're getting on a plane everywhere.

1418
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 2: And so they did not have the television revenue. The

1419
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: other thing that they did is unlike the SEC which

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01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: has like sixteen sports per athletic department, the schools out

1421
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: there still have like thirty. They still trying to run

1422
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: thirty programs. It's just bad business, is what it comes

1423
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: down to, and led them to be the point of extinction.

1424
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Speaker 2: AP joins us. Coming up next, NFL one hundred players List, higher, lower,

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Speaker 2: better or worse. Cleveland eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett.

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Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: And be sure to catch the Kevin Stefanski Show tonight

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Speaker 2: at seven Z and Gerard University Hospitals, Cleveland. Browns Radio

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Speaker 2: Network coach Stefanski Oscitt Austin Watkins joins the show you

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Speaker 2: have that you're not on. You have that to look

1432
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Speaker 2: forward to, which is a very nice time for a

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Speaker 2: little better or worse, higher or lower presented by keep

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Speaker 2: It from Ohio from the Ohio Lottery reminds you to

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Speaker 2: set the time and spending limits when gambling. Poi Zal

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Speaker 2: in studio with us the Great ap joining us our

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Speaker 2: senior staff rider in studio, Hello Gibbe not.

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Speaker 3: For long, leaving us for greener pastures they end.

1439
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm just not even going to ignore that I love

1440
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: I want him to see it. I think it's crazy.

1441
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and have it.

1442
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 7: I'm just I just want to say I'm going to

1443
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 7: miss you guys so much. It's been such a blast

1444
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 7: coming onto this show basically once a week for a

1445
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 7: last You're in a path for year and change. I

1446
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 7: feel like I've grown so much just by talking to

1447
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 7: you guys. I've grown much more confident talking on the radio.

1448
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 7: I'vened the list not been. I did not have much

1449
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 7: of a radio background before. But you guys, you caused

1450
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 7: me up and uh and you built me up so

1451
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 7: super appreciative.

1452
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Speaker 6: And I think much love.

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: I think much love, dude. I think whenever you have

1454
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: flavoring hot cakes. Though, I want you to still call

1455
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 3: in just give I'll send you a text to especially

1456
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: because you're going to be in an enemy territory in Baltimore,

1457
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: so i'll see. I feel like you, guys, I need

1458
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: ap talking some letting us know boots on the ground, gibe.

1459
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. We're working through a couple of things.

1460
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 4: I like you guys.

1461
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: Always have my.

1462
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: Machine working through a couple of things.

1463
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 5: Somehow, on somehow on the switcher, the camera doesn't enlarge automatically.

1464
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: We're also missing I thought, I thought. I thought he

1465
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 3: meant that he was working on a few things for Baltimore.

1466
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: Afore we don't know for going away party is October Fest.

1467
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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody's invited.

1468
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: Oh god, please come, yes. I love it.

1469
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: It looks like we're doing a repair on the going

1470
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: in a number of directions.

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Speaker 3: You're good, that's good, that's it.

1472
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Speaker 6: Nice work.

1473
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Speaker 5: What a job?

1474
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: G How does he how does he navigate out of.

1475
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 2: Nice and calm, steely eyed focus.

1476
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: No acknowledgement of the crowds.

1477
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: He's in his own.

1478
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: He's not one for cheers or applause, not one for emotion,

1479
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: not one for not one for emotion.

1480
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 5: He does not want to be. He's like Yellowstone. He

1481
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 5: follows it because Yellowstone is technically his boss, the thing.

1482
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: Everybody's boss.

1483
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 6: He just puts the blinders on.

1484
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: Give it a minute.

1485
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: I just think they might be Clydesdale, Clydesdale, just blowing,

1486
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: just locked in.

1487
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: I still love those clydesails and the Budweiser commercials flowing

1488
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: through things, just going through great living their best lives, frolicking.

1489
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Speaker 5: Whimsical time for Higher or Lower presented by the Ohio

1490
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 5: Lottery and keep it fun Ohio from the Ohio Lottery,

1491
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Speaker 5: who reminds you to set time and spending limits when gambling.

1492
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 5: The NFL dot Com NFL Network Top one hundred player

1493
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 5: list is officially out. They announced the final ten and

1494
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 5: number one Yesterdays list. I'm going to tell you right now,

1495
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 5: there's three Browns that made the list. Miles Garrett, Nick Chubb,

1496
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 5: Zadarius Smith, no Watson, no Ward, no Joel Atonio.

1497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one that's it's about.

1498
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what is is.

1499
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: Over and really Zadarius get makes it from Minnesota Pro Bowl,

1500
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: you know appropriate, But like I would say, he's Minnesota's credit.

1501
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 2: This is off of last year's play.

1502
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 5: The fact they have Nick Chubb is RB four.

1503
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: On this well, so what why So let's get into

1504
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: the let's get into the let's get into the weeds

1505
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: on this a little bit. So he's running back four.

1506
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: So the highest rated running back on this list is

1507
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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, who rushing Now this is voted on by

1508
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: the players, Yes, so how could the players think that

1509
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is the fourth best running back in the league.

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Speaker 3: My guess is, here's my theory.

1511
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: So who would be the other two Saquon and McCaffrey.

1512
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't even matter.

1513
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: I think.

1514
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: I think this is he is not a loquacious man.

1515
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: He probably goes out there plays the game. He probably

1516
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: does not have a lot of relationships with guys on

1517
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: other teams who did not play with him at Georgia.

1518
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 7: And the fact that he hasn't led the league in

1519
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 7: rushing yards before. He's come so close, but he hasn't

1520
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 7: done it. Even before right second.

1521
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: But like I'd think part of this is a popularity contest.

1522
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: You have to be liked, and you know, justin Jefferson's

1523
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: chapping it up with everybody around the league, Kelsey all,

1524
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: you got to be really good and then really well liked.

1525
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: And my guess is that I think the quiet nature

1526
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: of Nick Chubb. He's such a legend in Cleveland but

1527
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 3: around the league because he's not a guy who's doing commercials.

1528
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: He's not a guy that's, you know, talking a lot

1529
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 3: of trash. No, he's so I think I think that's

1530
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 3: why I think so.

1531
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 5: Nick Chubb was twenty nine, Derrick Henry was twenty five,

1532
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 5: Austin Eckler was twenty one.

1533
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not the league in touchdowns two years

1534
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: in a row.

1535
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 6: And I think that's also fantasy in play.

1536
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: I think there's some of that too.

1537
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: And I also think, like if you're if you if

1538
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: any of these guys were drafting a running back for

1539
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: this season, Chubb would go one over Josh Ure.

1540
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 5: Yes, well, and afterwards, if anybody just make an argument

1541
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 5: ahead of Chubb for multi purpose, I'm assuming it would

1542
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: be Christian McCaffrey and he comes in at thirty fifth

1543
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 5: and RB six. Okay, Barkley's ahead of him. Barkley's head

1544
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 5: of McCaffrey.

1545
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: What I have a hard time with is a couple

1546
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: of things. So Nick Chubb disrespected Miles is completely disrespected

1547
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: Miles of Miles Garrett on the Well, that's crazy, And

1548
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I know. He didn't play seventeen

1549
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 3: games last year. But TJ. Watt should also be in

1550
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: the top ten.

1551
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 4: T J.

1552
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 3: Watt was. We went through those numbers from wins and losses,

1553
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 3: eight points a game in scoring defense, the sacks go

1554
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: from like less than one a game to over three

1555
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 3: a game with him on the field. The yard is

1556
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: that was one hundred yards and eight points a game

1557
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 3: difference with him.

1558
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: Like we had never seen anything like that from a

1559
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: non quarterback ever.

1560
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: Ever. Yeah, all right, let's get into it. Hit it.

1561
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 5: Kevin higher or lower? Number one on the list is

1562
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes appropriate number two? Justin Jefferson wide receiver Minnesota

1563
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 5: Zegura higher, lower or just right in the NFL top

1564
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 5: one hundred list.

1565
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: You talk to anybody in this league and it is

1566
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: unanimous that he is the best receiver and the most

1567
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: difficult player to deal with from a game planning standpoint

1568
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So I think it's fine. Thin gets

1569
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: fully earned appropriate all of it.

1570
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 2: Bishop It's correct, it's the sweet spot. The other thing

1571
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: that's remarkable is there are three, so there are two

1572
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: skill players a total of three in the tops. I

1573
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: think Jamar Chase was like thirty four on this list.

1574
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: The two receivers in the quarterback off the LSU National

1575
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: Championship team are in the top thirty five in the NFL.

1576
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 2: By the way, Justin Jefferson that year that they were

1577
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 2: all together at LSU when they won the national title,

1578
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: he was the number two. Jamar Chase won the blitnik Raff.

1579
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was the first team All American. Jefferson was

1580
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: the two. Now Joe through for six thousand yards, so

1581
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: I think Justin still probably had fifteen hundred yards receiving,

1582
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: but Chase was the one. But it's right, he's he

1583
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: is appropriately where he is. He's any time you talk

1584
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 2: to people around the league, he say best on quarterback

1585
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: in the league, it's Justin Jefferson. Forever it was Aaron Donald. Yes,

1586
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: it feels like he's gotten that mantle.

1587
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: Now next highercore lower.

1588
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 5: Number three is Jalen Hurts. Number four is Nick Bosa.

1589
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 5: Number five. We'll start with Travis Kelcey Bishop higher lower

1590
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:58,440
Speaker 5: or just right right behind him as Joe.

1591
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 2: Burrows there Tyreek Boyce all. I mean, you think about that,

1592
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City had five, seven and one on this list.

1593
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: You know what, just for the funsies, I'm gonna go lower.

1594
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Tyreek Hill higher. I'd take Travis down

1595
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: just a bit. I think Tyreek doing it without without

1596
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Kelsey's a first ballot. I mean, this is nonsense.

1597
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: These are the best players in the league.

1598
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 3: Like I can I throw one thing at you, just

1599
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: try to get your head. They got rid of Tyreek

1600
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: Hill and still won the Super Bowl. Yeah, and Patrick

1601
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 3: Mahomes is obviously a big reason why. But I don't

1602
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: think they win the Super Bowl if it was the converse,

1603
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 3: if they had gotten rid of Kelsey and kept Tyreek Hill,

1604
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: I don't think they're as good.

1605
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 2: It's fair to say. But we'll never know. I mean,

1606
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: you can't do that.

1607
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: You can't say that's wrong.

1608
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 2: By the way, good job out of me guessing fifteen

1609
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: hundred yards for Jefferson at LSU fifteen forty eighteen touchdowns.

1610
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: It's not going to one hundred and eleven catches fifteen

1611
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: forty eighteen touchdowns. I think Chase was like eighteen hundred

1612
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: that year.

1613
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 5: Poise out, what's say you? Uh?

1614
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 6: No, I actually think Kelsey is just fine at five.

1615
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 7: He is, bar none, the best head end in the

1616
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 7: league and the reason why Patrick Mahomes was able to

1617
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 7: get off the ground as fast as he has been.

1618
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 7: He's I think if you obviously Zee what you were

1619
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 7: saying about how league exactly talked about Jefferson, Well, I

1620
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 7: think Kelsey's probably in that conversation too, and so I

1621
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 7: think the fact that he's the second non QBI and

1622
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 7: I maybe he could even move him up above Bosa,

1623
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 7: but the fact that he's the second non QB slash

1624
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 7: defensive end, I guess on this list, I think it's fitting.

1625
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 6: I think maybe you can make.

1626
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 7: An argument for brown Hill like Bogue was just doing,

1627
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 7: but I'm fine with him at five. He's He's as

1628
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 7: tough to guard as anybody in the league, and that

1629
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 7: includes Jefferson.

1630
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 3: Last year one hundred and ten catches, thirteen hundred and

1631
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 3: thirty eight yards, twelve touchdowns, a career high twelve touchdowns

1632
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: for him, thirteen hundred and thirty eight yards. It's the

1633
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 3: third time he's been over thirteen hundred in the last

1634
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: five seasons.

1635
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 6: And how old is he?

1636
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 5: And I think thirty.

1637
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: He's going to turn thirty four on October the fifth.

1638
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: Give me the pre Mahomes.

1639
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: What was Mahomes' first year, so he's been there five years.

1640
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 3: So twenty sixteen pre Mahomes First Team All Pro eighty

1641
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 3: five catches, eleven hundred twenty five yards, four touchdowns, twenty

1642
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: seventeen pre Mahomes Pro Bowler eighty three, one thousand and

1643
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 3: thirty eight and eight. First year with Mahomes one oh

1644
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 3: three thirteen thirty six and ten, then in ninety seven, twelve,

1645
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: twenty nine and five one oh five sixty impressive. Thing

1646
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 3: is thirty three.

1647
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 5: And we don't have time to break it in or

1648
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 5: look at the stats, but like, how many times would

1649
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 5: the game on the line in the fourth quarter when

1650
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 5: you know he is the he is a yay.

1651
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 3: Here's the other thing.

1652
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,520
Speaker 2: He's unbelievable.

1653
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 3: They've had they've been obviously their last four playoff runs.

1654
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: He has two oh seven and four three sixty and three,

1655
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: three hundred and three and then last year two fifty

1656
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: seven and four and that's in three these are these

1657
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: are three game totals. Yeah, so he's averaged over the

1658
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 3: last three seasons in the playoffs, in twelve games, he

1659
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 3: has fourteen touchdowns. I mean, so you're you're talking about

1660
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 3: playoff playoff games elite, elite.

1661
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 7: He is even more elite in the playoffs and he's

1662
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 7: in the regular seasons.

1663
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, after watching quarterback, it makes

1664
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: you like him even more. He's so great. The Burrow

1665
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 3: had my beat. This is what Harry's house was. He's awesome.

1666
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 3: His podcast if people don't listen to it, I couldn't

1667
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: recommend it more. They just wrapped their season. Their season

1668
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 3: of podcast is over. They don't do it. I guess

1669
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: in the during the football season. He's awesome. He's and

1670
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: thirty three, Like that's no joke. He's gonna be thirty

1671
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 3: four this year and he is still balling.

1672
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: Those brothers walking in gold jackets be cool if they

1673
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: tired retired the same year.

1674
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 3: Travis Travis's first Star County first ballot, say, Fairgrounds, Travis

1675
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 3: is for sure first ballot.

1676
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 2: Jason's not far off. He's got a ton of.

1677
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 3: First teams, five first five time first teams.

1678
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: He's right, I think, yeah, that might make it right there.

1679
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might put him as a lot.

1680
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: By the way, the champion the Jamar Chase numbers that

1681
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: year at LSU eighty four for seventeen eighty and twenty

1682
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: touchdowns in fourteen.

1683
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 5: Games, thirty eight scores between the two.

1684
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: Between the two of them.

1685
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, next higher under the yard's receiving Joe Burrow is

1686
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 5: number six. That does take us to Tyreek Hill at

1687
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 5: number seven. We know Bo's thoughts poison O higher, lower

1688
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 5: or just right for one Tyreek Hill.

1689
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is fine, and I think you could. It's

1690
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 7: so hard because I think Burrow belongs where he's out

1691
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 7: on this list too. But to me, like Tyreek Hill

1692
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 7: is you just watch the way that he makes everybody

1693
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 7: on the field look so much slower when he's running

1694
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 7: at full speed because he's just so fast and can

1695
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 7: make so many plays that off off of his speed

1696
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 7: and just all over the field.

1697
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 6: So I think I'm fine with him at seven. I wouldn't.

1698
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 7: I wouldn't put anybody behind him in front of him,

1699
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: So yeah, I guess that means I'm just fine at seven.

1700
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 5: Zigura higher lower, just trud.

1701
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about guys that are so elite,

1702
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: that are game changers. I think you can go all

1703
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: the way through the top eleven. I think there's a

1704
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 3: delineation after those guys. But Miles Garrett should be in there.

1705
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 3: I think he j Watch should be in there. So

1706
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 3: would get you to like thirteen, these guys are all studs.

1707
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it being I'm fine, just right, it's

1708
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting. One thing that came out of you

1709
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: didn't finish quarterbacks yet, no, huh. So Mahomes has a

1710
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: lot of respect for Joe Burrow, just the way that

1711
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: he talks about him, and you know, you get that

1712
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: moment where he says, we want the Bengals because we

1713
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: want to beat him and all of that. It was

1714
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: pretty cool watching that. So I think that, yeah, I

1715
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: like that. I like where he is there. I think ultimately,

1716
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, Tyreek Burrow. I think Jalen Hurts last year,

1717
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: based on what he did, maybe is justified. But I think,

1718
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: like if you were saying, Okay, you're gonna draft quarterbacks

1719
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 3: right now, he's not the second quarterback taken.

1720
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: I think he's the hardest. He was unreal last he was,

1721
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: but it's there. You would I think it is fair

1722
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 2: to say I would also say this he was unreal.

1723
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: He was put in this. I think he's a sixty

1724
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: six percent passer. He ran for thirteen touchdowns seven hundred yards,

1725
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: like thirty seven hundred yards, twenty two touchdowns, six picks.

1726
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: So from a past perspective, it's not elite like you're

1727
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: expect like you'd expect for somebody to be third on

1728
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 2: this list, but a lot of stuff allows for it.

1729
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 5: He is.

1730
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: I can think you can make an argument that no

1731
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: quarterback in this league has been putting a better exist

1732
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 2: position to succeed right away. Then absolutely like that line, Oh,

1733
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: those weapons, the coaching, understanding what he did right and

1734
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: using it to his strengths. It's all of those things.

1735
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: It checks every single box. Yes, But now that the

1736
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 2: tape is out, can he stack it? And I do

1737
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: think it's fair to have the question of can he

1738
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: stack it? I know Damn Good and Well Mahomes Burrow,

1739
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: Allen Herbert. I mean, I know there's stackability there for

1740
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: those guys. I know it, and it just needs to

1741
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: have another year of it. Because a year ago at

1742
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: this time when they came in here a question you were,

1743
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: like everyone's asked a question like can he go? Well,

1744
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: if he did, for sure, but like one, give me another.

1745
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 3: Every year he's been in the league, his completion pentient

1746
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: has gone from fifty two to sixty one to sixty seven.

1747
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: Touchdown interception ratio is improved every year. Yards per attempt

1748
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: has improved every year. Quarterback rating has improved every year.

1749
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 3: QBR has improved every year. So if he can, like

1750
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: he just put in the work, you got him some credit.

1751
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 7: He did just turn twenty four. He just turned twenty five.

1752
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 7: Was an incredibly young age.

1753
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 6: This is a quarterback.

1754
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: Just this is a guy who was thrown out of

1755
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: Bama because he couldn't throw it, went to quarterback finishing

1756
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 2: school at Oklahoma, then took over the team in like

1757
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: a week and a half and then was great, finishing

1758
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: the as a Heisman finalist. But even after that, there

1759
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: was questions like is he a safety? Like could he

1760
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: even play quarterback? Was he a second nd the second round?

1761
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 5: Second?

1762
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: It was viewed as a reach. It's a big reach

1763
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: because I don't it felt like he was a system

1764
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: gimmick guy at Oklahoma. So all props, Yeah, completely, but

1765
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he's the third best player football.

1766
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: Next higher core lower.

1767
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 5: Josh Allen is number eight, Micah Parsons number nine. Number

1768
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 5: ten is Chris Jones. Poison back to you, higher lower,

1769
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 5: just right.

1770
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 7: I would not put Chris Jones above Aaron Donald on

1771
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 7: this list. I Chris Jones belongs, I think, in the

1772
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 7: top twenty, but to put him ten and then have

1773
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 7: Aaron Donald go right behind him, I mean, we've seen

1774
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 7: there's no need to go over how dominant Aaron Donald

1775
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 7: is and the things that he's able to do as

1776
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 7: an interior defensive lineman. I mean it's hard alone for

1777
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 7: guys on the edge to be as destructive as they

1778
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 7: are in today's game, but for him to do what

1779
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 7: he's doing in the interior, I think is just incredibly impressive.

1780
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 7: And I mean, look, Chris Jones can do the stuff too,

1781
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 7: but I would still take in today's game, I would

1782
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 7: be taking Aaron Donald.

1783
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 6: So I'd have him at number ten and.

1784
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 7: Maybe even at number nine in front of Michael Parsons

1785
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 7: because he's still just that good. But for now, I'm

1786
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 7: not ranking Chris Jones in front of Aaron Donald.

1787
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: It is based just on last year. Just on last year,

1788
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: I think that I'm fine with it. I think generally

1789
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: speaking to your point, totally get it. But Donald last

1790
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 3: year was hurt eleven games, five sacks and eleven games.

1791
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 3: Chris John's at fifteen and a half sacks was dominant.

1792
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: He's the reason, quite frankly that they beat the Bengals.

1793
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: He had two huge sacks in that game. So I

1794
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: think last year, yes, generally speaking, no, but last year

1795
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 3: Chris Jones turned in a season that puts him INtime. Mean,

1796
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: he was the first team All Pro fifteen and a

1797
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 3: half sacks, seventeen tackles for loss. He was dominant.

1798
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 2: This is where Miles should be. He should be in this, Yes,

1799
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: where this should be with Donald, Jones, Parsons and TJ

1800
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 2: should be in there. Those those are the Bosa. To me,

1801
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: the difference between Bosa and Miles is not four to twenty.

1802
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: That's not that's not right at all. Like those days

1803
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: are kind of all in the same area. Like Bosa

1804
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: could come down a little bit and they could all

1805
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 2: be between eight and thirteen or whatever, but it's negligible

1806
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: the difference between those guys.

1807
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know where how Muchles ends up at

1808
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 5: number twenty on.

1809
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 2: This line, I think it's similar to Nick, like, I

1810
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 2: think you're right. I think it's a popularity contest, and

1811
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: it's like some guys are gregarious and fun and all

1812
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: of that, and I think it's more that than anything else.

1813
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, how about the Raiders with three guys in the

1814
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 5: top twenty, Josh Jacobs, DeVante Adams, Max Crosby.

1815
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 3: He's very good.

1816
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 7: But I was gonna say, I wonder if the reason

1817
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 7: why Miles is as high as this is you look

1818
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,480
Speaker 7: at the guys on this list.

1819
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 6: This is what I was originally gonna say too.

1820
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 7: You said that, Gibs, is that you look at the

1821
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 7: guys on this list and these are all people from

1822
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 7: teams who have been, you know, making the NFC AFC Championship,

1823
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 7: the super Bowl the last two three years, and obviously

1824
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 7: the Browns haven't been there. But then you see that

1825
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:38,959
Speaker 7: there's three Raiders guys on listening.

1826
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 6: You're like, okay, Like.

1827
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 7: Like Max Crosby, really he's really good, all these guys,

1828
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 7: but he's not.

1829
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: He's not Miles.

1830
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 4: No.

1831
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 5: No, I got to asked the same thing, like Fred

1832
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 5: Warner good player? Is he a great player? Is he

1833
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 5: a top fifteen was he first? I don't know.

1834
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: I guess y first steam All prosy. I've been playing

1835
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen, and he's a two time first team

1836
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 3: All Pro to the last three seasons, he's first seam

1837
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: All Pro. So that's he's that's pretty good.

1838
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Mankah, you obviously George Kittle, I get.

1839
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: I get seems too high to me soon what's happened

1840
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 2: in the last couple.

1841
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 3: Of years because what he's also being rewarded for in

1842
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 3: this which is it's nice to see that they're paying

1843
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 3: attention to that and all of it, but he's being

1844
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: rewarded in some ways were also being a dominant blocker.

1845
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 3: Seven unders, sixty yards, eleven touchdowns is good. That's a

1846
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: career h I had never been above six before. But

1847
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 3: he's getting rewarded for what he does. In addition to,

1848
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, his pass catching. His pass catching numbers have

1849
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 3: never been the same since in twenty eighteen.

1850
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: It's all.

1851
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: It's been steady declined since then.

1852
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: Good jevity, you give me goodjevitu ap ap so much

1853
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,000
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Speaker 2: All right, give me the We'll have a training camp

1858
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 2: practice tomorrow that probably have a little bit of juice

1859
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: to it.

1860
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 3: I would training camp practice tomorrow, training camp insider tomorrow

1861
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: with myself and Joe Hayden as well, So be on

1862
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 3: the look out for that. I'm told that Drew Forbes

1863
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 3: is dealing with a back injury. But he and he

1864
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 3: was taken off on the backboard as a precaution. So

1865
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 3: nothing but nothing right, that's we don't know the extent

1866
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 3: of it. But it is not something that is.

1867
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: You go off on a backplate though like there's a

1868
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 2: right there, big.

1869
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 3: There's that that is. That is not the case. But

1870
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: he is dealing with a back injury. We also had

1871
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 3: reports to him Ford hamstring injury.

1872
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Speaker 5: Yep.

1873
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: And uh So the Browns could be looking at some

1874
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: running backs to come in here, and my guess is

1875
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 3: it'll be somebody that is a veteran, and it could

1876
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 3: be somebody that's got some familiarity at least with this

1877
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: time type of the scheme. So think about people played

1878
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 3: for the Rams. Anybody played for the Falcons recently, or

1879
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 3: if it's a young back like I mentioned Michael Carter,

1880
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: they like a veteran like a J. D. McKissick, somebody

1881
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 3: like that. Carter's still with the Jets, and it would

1882
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 3: only be a few was made available.

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01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 5: Tomorrow on the show, Joe Hayden will be back with

1884
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 5: us breaking down practice. Chris Rose will also talk.

1885
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh it's great seeing him yesterday. So that's a real tree.

1886
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: Very good. All right, The next level is coming up next.

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