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Speaker 1: My dad gave the whole family DNA ancestry kits for

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Speaker 3: That is insane. Always it always ends like crazy.

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Speaker 2: This begins crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, if you want your family to stay intact or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they will ruin your whole life.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Dad's not the kind of guy you gift everyone

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Speaker 1: knew he had another kid. Right, We're all grown ups

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Speaker 2: So I have a feeling this is a shock to everyone. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Johnny, you think you cheated? Uh Daddy?

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Speaker 1: I think Daddy was slinging that schlog bro All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see. So the CEO's company bio says he's a

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Speaker 2: Everything's big in Texas. Everything's bigger in Texas, including my

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Speaker 1: The cards called him the gun slinger, slinging that that

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Speaker 3: Had old sausage, lasso wringling the cattle.

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Speaker 1: Dad was stationed in Texas ten years before he met

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Speaker 1: I found out no other branch had to retake the

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Speaker 3: This is literally like instead of sending op a direct message,

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Speaker 3: Any family like secret affair, baby half brothers don't get

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Speaker 1: Any person in the company who had a dad that

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Speaker 1: Dad has gotten his results back, obviously, and he's avoiding

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Speaker 2: What did you do it?

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Speaker 3: If you were Op, bro, I would I would take

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Speaker 2: Like, you're my brother give it to me. I'm the

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Speaker 2: He would tried to fire me. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So just after my question was posted, my boss Katie

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Speaker 1: Things were quiet for a week until a major project

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Speaker 1: Anything I put on our work servers was getting deleted

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Speaker 1: I started sending all my work communication and attachments to

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Speaker 1: Okay, So after a mid month project meeting where I

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Speaker 1: that's good, but then hit the fan. Oh god, that

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Speaker 3: I pray that they were like, Nah, you're you're You're straight,

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Speaker 3: You're good, You're clear.

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Speaker 1: I was fired, but asked to turn in my badge

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Speaker 3: Bro to HR literally the CEO's like cronies, this army,

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Speaker 1: Actually there is some some tea on that Cebro did

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Speaker 3: All that you're supposed to be in HR like the

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Speaker 1: hole is Cebro? The a hole? Are the HR reps

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys think. What would

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Speaker 2: Op?

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Speaker 3: Not the A hole cee Bro, definitely the a hole

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Speaker 3: HR the craziest a holes. They just took these marching

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Speaker 2: It is I hate that.

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Speaker 1: I know. I know where's your spine, Sir cook? If

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Speaker 3: But first, Sam, we need to switch from sipping tea

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Speaker 2: Let's do it tea timedy dinner time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't pay for my work. Have fun with

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Speaker 1: this is Okayop. I'm Samuel's Donner and I'm John Frank.

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Speaker 2: We tell the funnier.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Oh John, that was beautiful. I love those pipes. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, contrary to popular opinion, John is not a

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Speaker 2: Is that correct? I did. I did have a job

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Speaker 2: Six hundred big ones. Damn.

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Speaker 1: That's uh that is huge. Well, as you know, in

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Speaker 2: Scam and a scammer the worst. All right, don't pay.

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Speaker 1: For my work. Have fun with the entire world knowing

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Speaker 1: you are a big, fat scammer.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 1: I was hired to make an advertisement for this cosmetic startup.

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Speaker 1: I normally don't accept local clients because I have a

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take a ride accident.

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Speaker 2: Charged them much.

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Speaker 1: I only charged sixty dollars per week, and as John

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Speaker 1: as a resident Facebook ads expert, is that a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah you're worth it? Op? Yeah? Come on?

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Speaker 1: Well actually, Op says, on average, I charge a foreign

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Speaker 1: You're local, Like, let me give you some local discount.

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Speaker 3: Never give a client of break, that's what any one.

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Speaker 1: Well, the first two weeks were good. She provided me

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Speaker 1: they clicked on the wrong person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they clicked on the wrong ad.

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Speaker 1: She's suddenly demanding our ads should have at least one

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Speaker 1: her budget only allows her to have twelve hundred reaches

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Speaker 1: three percent. Hey, there you go, one to three percent.

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Speaker 1: The facts are in from big that Bucks advertising, big boy.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Like, if she did that, almost imagine every every person

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Speaker 2: It that doesn't happen. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I all know that I told her.

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Speaker 1: For that to be possible, she should increase her budget,

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Speaker 1: which is what a great I guess, Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's great advice, what you say, Yeah, exactly. Suddenly she

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Speaker 2: Which is actually like really really good. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And now she refused to give me her payment for

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Speaker 1: I think my number is blocked. Stupid her because she

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Speaker 1: I changed the pictures to a text post that says.

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Speaker 2: Don't buy from this.

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Speaker 1: The owner refused to give me my salary and a

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Speaker 2: Oh teleop.

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Speaker 1: I also included screenshots of her conversation to back it

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Speaker 2: Is this about? Yeah, yeah, receipts.

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Speaker 1: I did it last night, and I'm sure any moment

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Speaker 2: Done with her. I'm moving up there we go.

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Speaker 1: That one hundred and twenty dollars she owns, it's hers

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Speaker 1: to keep. As for me, I'm not accepting any local

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Speaker 2: Nah.

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Speaker 1: Then a few moments later my account now says account error,

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Speaker 1: I finally got a response from her.

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Speaker 2: She is angry.

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Speaker 1: Apparently she saw my post and threatened to sue me

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At first, she didn't believe it, so I googled my

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Speaker 1: All she to do is pay the way she owed me,

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Speaker 1: I thanked her and promptly locked her.

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Speaker 2: Dude, wow, that.

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Speaker 1: Is some revenge, baby, revenge best served quickly efficiently in foots.

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Speaker 3: That's that's side, and hopefully lesson learned. Go with different clients, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yea.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's the thing like if you have clients

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Speaker 1: the lower they pay you, the more different. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: if you don't want us to have to take pennies

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Speaker 1: eat peanuts from the floor, make sure to subscribe to

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Speaker 1: okayopie on YouTube, Spotify, TikTok and who want to be

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Speaker 1: a real one? So hor Us on patrop because we

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Speaker 3: People like Ariel Casey's a furious to v Nae Mohammad

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Speaker 3: and Amanda will Connor, Desiree, Kekan Simmons and Kathy Quigley

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